If Newcastle Keep Coloccini – No Need For New Defenders?


We heard today that San Lorenzo President Matias Lammens will meet with Fabricio Coloccini soon, to attempt to get him to the San Lorenzo club this summer.

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Steven Taylor – hopes Colo will stay

Steven Taylor has talked today about how the players at Newcastle are desperate for Colo to stay at the club, but of course he has a personal problem, which is presumably better handled if he returns to Argentina to be with his family.

Coloccini’s father is a youth coach at San Lorenzo, and wasn’t shy in saying he wanted his son to join him at the Buenos Aries club last January.

San Lorenzo cannot afford the £6M fee Newcastle will demand, and Colo would have to take a cut in the £65K/week he gets at Newcastle on his current contract, which has three years to run.

This is what Steven Taylor – his central defense partner – had to say about his captain:

“The lads love playing with him, and we hope he stays” “He’s a very quiet guy, but when he speaks, he speaks very well,” “Colo and I have had a great partnership over the past few seasons,”

“We have a good understanding. We know each other’s strengths and weaknesses. We seem to be able to mix it up. He’s very composed, and he’s not shy of a tackle as well.”

“He’s been great a guy in training. You can learn a lot from him.” “I’ve got a fantastic partnership with him, and hopefully that will continue.”

As far as center backs go, Mike Williamson who played well when he came in for the second leg Benfica game, and then played well against West Ham, wants to stay on at Newcastle.

And Newcastle have 18-year-old Remie Streete from South Shields coming through, and he’s expected to challenge for a first team place next season – and this lad is as highly thought of as young Adam Campbell.

And of course Newcastle brought in Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa in January, and the Frenchman has quickly proved he can play well at all of the back four positions, and could become a stellar acquisition for Newcastle.

If Newcastle hold onto Colo and Mike Williamson, Newcastle may not need to bring in another center-back this summer, and we are also well stocked at full back with Mathieu Debuchy, Davide Santon and Massadio Haidara and Yanga-Mbiwa can play either side at full back.

But if these players are so good, how come we conceded 68 goals last season?

What do you think?

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76 comments so far

  • NUFC_LEAZES END

    May 24, 2013 at 12:49 AM

    Comment #1

    I personally think we should try santon out on the wing and if he’s no good then just sell him to Milan or inter Milan for say 10-20mil and bring in a better LB that’s better at defending than attacking

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  • Newcastle Brown Alien

    May 24, 2013 at 12:49 AM

    Comment #2

    yes there is, taylor you will get injured, colo will get injured, we will have williamson i defence, we need at least 2 defenders

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  • Newcastle Brown Alien

    May 24, 2013 at 12:51 AM

    Comment #3

    repost:

    Newcastle Brown Alien // May 24, 2013 at 12:48 AM

    Prodigy, are you trying to say that pardew has got it right, well i’m sorry, but how is hoofball the right way forward, we have cisse gouffran cabaye ben area sissoko MYM santon, all attack minded, in a sort of barcelona style of ground football with quick feet and passing, a punt from krul up to cisse simply does not work, he is not a target man, he is a finisher, he will rarely receive a ball that has been booted up field as he is not tall nor strong enough, face it, pardew has been given all the ingredients for a chateaux briand, and has made dog chow

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  • bettyswallocks

    May 24, 2013 at 12:57 AM

    Comment #4

    bettyswallocks // May 24, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    B and B

    This blog is about football , in particular NUFC.

    Its not about you or your profanity.

    I m aware thet you re female and quite possibly a genuine footy fan but in the present circumstances with the club at a massive crossroads I don t think we need all your supercilious comments.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    May 24, 2013 at 1:09 AM

    Comment #5

    Newcastle Brown Alien,

    Let’s make one thing clear here, Im not Pardews biggest fan. I would snap up a top four manager in a heartbeat or any kind of upgrade if it was available.

    But lets be real, given Ashleys record, he won’t pay for that kind of manager. He likes managers that has been out of work for a while who he has full control over. It’s never going to happen unless we break the top 4-6 and as a club, we are no where near that. We have only been in the Premiership 3 seasons. We are re-building, going through a transition phase, adding to the squad on a very tight budget as seasons go by.

    I also do not do scapegoating. This season is down to a number of factors not one man. At the top for me is the board. They failed last summer, messed up with Ba and didn’t replace him in January. That put the club under alot of unnecessary pressure and made life very difficult for everyone concerned with the club.

    Then it’s Pardew and the coaching staff who has been rocky with tactics and subs, but up until January he never had a decent squad of players or the back up to play with. Then he is thrown five players who cannot speak English his way. Not exactly an ideal scenario for a football club in a relagation battle. The injuries have not stopped since January. Each one of those five signings has also missed a handful of games as has other key players. Colo, Ben Arfa, Santon. The season was a write off along time ago, it was finished before the January window because of the boards gambles. Selling Ba and not replacing him another gamble which seen us score to little goals until the end of the season.

    Then it’s the players who have underperformed.

    I read alot of articles as such and they all seem to dismiss the fact that our best players have missed half of last seasons games. Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Colo, Tiote. Other players have had long lay offs also aswell as our new signings.

    The fact is, Pardew is not to blame for this season. He is not blameless, he is a part of it. Everybody from the board to the players has to take responsibility.

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  • Newcastle Brown Alien

    May 24, 2013 at 1:25 AM

    Comment #6

    Prodigy, I agree that not all the blame lies with par dew, but more than people realise, yes the board didn’t strengthen, but we started the 2012-13 season with a better squad than 2011-12, and yes there were injuries, but for once we had players to fill in, eg anita and marveaux, the entire season was an entire cock up on pardews part, from caving in to ba, if he played him wide instead of cisse we would have been good, the picking players who shouldn’t be first choice over and over again, like anita, when he played he was amazing but couldn’t get a game against the useless tiote, or the championship perch, or marveaux against the slow gutierrez, and then finally once we had signed our players in january i thought, wow we have a chance at making a good go of it, but pardew plays them out of position, sissoko should be CDM like yaya toure and cabaye should be higher up the field like nolan, but swapping them meant neither could play to their strengths. also the fact he has criticised players for playing to their strengths eg hba who was criticised by pardew for not tracking back and defending, now he does and he looks a shadow of the player going forward from last season.

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  • Geordie-Exile

    May 24, 2013 at 1:41 AM

    Comment #7

    I personally think that we do need additional cover at CB as Saylor is injury prone and Williamson is not good enough over the long haul. If Colo is leaving then we need to be decisive and recruit someone sooner than later. I hope we bid for Sakho at PSG. That would show our intention to the players who are undecided about their future and go some way to pacifying the fans.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    May 24, 2013 at 1:58 AM

    Comment #8

    Ok,

    Lets look at this..

    We had Anita in as extra for a first team player from the season before. This was never enough to sustain a EL competition. Our squad in truth was never even built for a season in the premiership if we suffered any sort of serious injuries.

    I like Anita, but Pardew likes a defensive mid and a playmaker. Tiote is the best defensive mid at the club on form. Anita is neither an attacking mid or defensive mid, he is a bog standard tidy midfield player. We havn’t needed him in the tactics that has been deployed by Pardew. The 4-2-3-1 which we have seen throughout.

    Marveux is useless down the left flank, he is suited to playing in the whole. Who else would you put on the left? Ferguson? He is not ready. As I recall, for most of the season Marveux was poor when given a chance, he only came good when he was put in the hole and linked well with Cisse in the run in to the end of the season. He has suffered injuries at key times also. Perch hasn’t done too badly for me when replacing Tiote.

    Sissoko set the Premiership alight in January-Februrary playing as an attacking midfielder. He was unstoppable. Why not continue that? It was working. Towards the end though while his form dropped, I would of shifted him back into midfield also. I think he only had a few poor games then he was injured anyway and missed the rest of the season.

    Cabaye isn’t a Nolan type player, he is a playmaker who can score goals in my view. There two totally different types of player for me. Cabaye should not be in the hole.

    Ben Arfa has struggled for fitness since he came back. He has only managed a hand full of games since November.

    I think it’s important to mention that it is not just the injuries we have sustained, it’s the games also where they need to get back into full stride when they return. Players don’t bounce in from long lays and go at 100%, it takes them time to adjust also and find there fitness.

    I can totally understand where your coming from, but these are decisions that Pardew has made and your looking back in hindsight which is alot easier to do.

    Ba still scored 13 goals through that spell. Anita was never needed because Perch was prefered as Tiote’s back up because he had done well. Sissoko was class in his first handful of games. Yet there is no praise only hatred and crys for his wrong doings haha.

    He has got things wrong I totally understand. There is alot of circumstances and mistakes from other people though which have affected this season.

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  • RonVanDam

    May 24, 2013 at 2:17 AM

    Comment #9

    Ba just scored for Chelsea against Man City

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    May 24, 2013 at 2:23 AM

    Comment #10

    Ron,

    Where do you think we would have finished this season if we retained his services until the end? Considering he scored 13 upto January alone?

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  • Geordie-Exile

    May 24, 2013 at 2:33 AM

    Comment #11

    If we had kept Ba I believe we would have been in the top 10 maybe as high as 8th. Our biggest mistake was not getting Remy in January and not having a suitable plan B.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    May 24, 2013 at 2:49 AM

    Comment #12

    Geordie,

    I think in hindsight, looking back you would have thought Ba would of got quite a few more goals thus getting us more points on the board. We are only 6 points off 9th, 9 points off 8th. Thats just 3 wins to put us in 8th.

    I think this shows what affect losing Ba had to the season from January. Of course, it’s in hindsight though.

    A season finishing 8th – 9th and the Europa League quarter finals would of been a good achievement considering the problems we have faced this season on and off the field.

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  • RonVanDam

    May 24, 2013 at 3:36 AM

    Comment #13

    @ Toon-Prodigy

    If Ba stayed around till the end of the season, i think we wouldve won another 3-4 games, atleast drawn 2 games with his contribution.

    Did anyone watch the Chelsea v City game? Dramatic stuff. City came back from 3 goals down to win in OT.

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  • RonVanDam

    May 24, 2013 at 3:37 AM

    Comment #14

    @ Toon-Prodigy

    Taking into account if we still brought the same 5 players in the Jan window

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  • thai-mag

    May 24, 2013 at 3:45 AM

    Comment #15

    leazes end
    10 to 20 mill for santon, what currency that in bottle tops

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    May 24, 2013 at 3:47 AM

    Comment #16

    Ron,

    So we can safely say, not bringing in a striker in January to replace him has cost us alot basically.

    Nah, Im stuck at work. Nee football for me. Im actually a little jelous as im turkeying already for the new season or at least some kind of football haha

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  • RonVanDam

    May 24, 2013 at 3:59 AM

    Comment #17

    Im a bit worried about PEA, if we do sign him i dont want him to turn out like Gervinho. PL is very physical and dont know how he will handle it.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    May 24, 2013 at 4:05 AM

    Comment #18

    Ron,

    I think a safe bet is a nippy clinical finisher.

    Im unsure how fast PEA is but he needs to be quick for this league and to fit in with Cisse upfront I reckon.

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  • RonVanDam

    May 24, 2013 at 4:07 AM

    Comment #19

    Does anyone know when next seasons fixtures will get published?

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    May 24, 2013 at 4:14 AM

    Comment #20

    The provisional fixture list is announced on June 19th at 9:00am.

    It is, of course, subject to change as the television companies have their say.

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  • RonVanDam

    May 24, 2013 at 4:25 AM

    Comment #21

    If we are going to get strikers, we need atleast 3

    A AC like striker to give us another option up front, Remy if he’s innocent lol and a young fringe player to challenge Adam Campbell

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  • RonVanDam

    May 24, 2013 at 4:31 AM

    Comment #22

    Pardew needs to take the boys out for team building outings more often like he did when we finished 5th

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    May 24, 2013 at 4:32 AM

    Comment #23

    Dont think we will get three.. Very unlikely. Two is a good bet. Campbell is getting more game time next season. He will be our third striker.

    I’d take Remy over Caroll though every day of the week

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    May 24, 2013 at 4:39 AM

    Comment #24

    He needs to get them down Tynemouth running along the beach facing this lethal wind. The conditioning is shocking with these players.

    Fitness had to come up in this meeting on Wednesday.

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  • RonVanDam

    May 24, 2013 at 4:50 AM

    Comment #25

    Our squad needs rotation to prevent fatigue and injuries. Assign personal trainers to each player. Get in life coaches, english tutors etc in the the backroom and rotate the to prevent fatigue and inguries

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  • gonufc (not Arf' bad)

    May 24, 2013 at 4:53 AM

    Comment #26

    repost from last thread:

    Christ sake.

    This statement is just f’ckin embarrassing.

    I almost already dislike new signings for being so stupid to join this pathetic money-milking machine.

    Almost as bad as bloody Arsenal, at least our directors are stupid and incompetant enough as to make it completely obvious.
    ———
    I still have hope that Colo will stay. I see absolutely no reason why he should leave as San Lorenzo have made it clear that they have no intention of paying his fair price- that’s case closed as far as I’m concerned- or atleast it should be.

    Yanga- Mbiwa looks like he could be top class once he gets used to the new country/ language/ league. Simpson has already said he’ll be leaving.

    Tiote might remember how to play football again because he was abysmal this season. There aren’t many other players who have gone from such a brilliant season to utterly useless the next with seemingly no difference.

    I still think the fundamental reason for us being quite so poor this season is because of the complete lack of improvement over the summer- then Pardew made it much, much worse.

    If we fail to make any good signings again this summer then we are simply resigning the club to mediocrity….or even worse….

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  • RonVanDam

    May 24, 2013 at 5:01 AM

    Comment #27

    Damn, my post #26 is so bad it needs to be ignored lol

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    May 24, 2013 at 5:23 AM

    Comment #28

    haha im done for the night, time to pack up me gear and head home. Rough night at work.

    Have a pleasant day lads! Te-roo

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  • Jamie McKellar

    May 24, 2013 at 5:24 AM

    Comment #29

    Anyone else think Debuchy is overrated and has annoyed the living f*** out of others like he has annoyed me?

    Simpson may have been dodgy on occasions but damn he was better than Debuchy!

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  • RonVanDam

    May 24, 2013 at 5:32 AM

    Comment #30

    Debuchy is similar to Santon. Good going forward, ok in defence
    Simpson is like Haidara. Excellent in defence but cant cross for s@#$

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  • Indian Magpie

    May 24, 2013 at 5:48 AM

    Comment #31

    Who needs enemies when you have Pardew, llambis and Ashley.

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  • Indian Magpie

    May 24, 2013 at 5:50 AM

    Comment #32

    Minimum top 10

    Good bye Current stars and good bye the potential ones.

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  • Indian Magpie

    May 24, 2013 at 5:56 AM

    Comment #33

    Worst owner
    Worst Manager
    Worst MD

    Worst brand of football

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  • 89Norcal

    May 24, 2013 at 6:06 AM

    Comment #34

    @Jamie McKeller

    Don’t think he’s overrated, just a balanced RB who has made a couple rash challenges lately. But IMO the PK he conceded at QPR was incorrect but at least the ref was consistent at the other end 🙂

    While our new French players bring class and technical ability to our side, mass French signings also carry a disadvantage in that they don’t readily acclimate to the pace and physicality of PL football. That’s why people are calling for more British signings.

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  • sparky55

    May 24, 2013 at 6:07 AM

    Comment #35

    I think we all agree (most of us anyway) that Pardew is a cancer to this club…he’s a useless tactician, a useless manager of men and so afraid of losing he’s forgotten how to win.

    he’s a bit like an average golfer with a dodgy slice. he doesn’t quite know what’s causing the slice so he starts defending the slice which of course makes the slice even worse.

    If an average golfer goes on the driving range and practices his golf swing without the help of a good coach then all he’s gonna do is repeat and practice a bad swing.

    Pardew is doing exactly the same thing…he’s watches the team fall deeper and deeper and deeper as he defends a one goal lead or a draw and we end up losing. It’s happened so often this year (the worst case being against reading) because he loses his bottle and has 3 defensive midfielders on the pitch against teams we should going after…but he’s a useless clueless manager running scared.

    thanks to Ashley we’ve got more of the same coming next year

    Can’t fcuking wait!

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  • jimmysmith

    May 24, 2013 at 6:12 AM

    Comment #36

    Colo can’t leave. He’s in his prime, we need him, San Lorenzo are pants, as is 99% of Argentina. Although if you’re cashed like he doubtless is, it’s probably priddyf@cken good.

    Even so, jesus, he’s our best player! It doesn’t bare thinking about.

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  • Indian Magpie

    May 24, 2013 at 6:12 AM

    Comment #37

    Affordable hoofball

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  • sparky55

    May 24, 2013 at 6:12 AM

    Comment #38

    bye bye Cabaye, bye bye colo, bye bye Santon, bye bye Tiote, bye bye Anita…welcome to the up and coming nufc transfer merrygoround where ashley turns another profit by selling players he got on the cheap two years ago.

    He’s a shrewd operator operating at a different level with a different agenda to the average fan…he’s in this for the money until such time he can buy into his beloved spurs so best not get our hopes up that owts gonna change

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    May 24, 2013 at 6:18 AM

    Comment #39

    Who cares, Colo, Saylor, Willo … they are all poor.
    We need at least one quality CB like M’Biwa in.

    With the puppet in charge does it matter?

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  • Indian Magpie

    May 24, 2013 at 6:21 AM

    Comment #40

    Ashley has turned NUFC into a PONZI scheme

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