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Was Ashley Right To Keep Alan Pardew As Manager?

8:55 pm, Friday, May 24th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 223 Comments

I’ve been asked a number of times this week to put a poll up on what readers think of Alan Pardew staying on as the Newcastle manager.

pardew great shot

Alan Pardew – Newcastle manager

We didn’t want to put this up during the season, but there’s no reason we cannot now gauge how supporters feel – good or bad – towards Alan Pardew.

As we said earlier today, the first few games of next season will be very important, but he’s the manager, as he has been over the last 30 months – and to think he’s now the second longest serving Premier League manager is staggering – and shows how cut-throat things are in the Premier League – with all that money around.

If we can make 5th place next season, with the new money coming in form the new three years TV agreement Newcastle could make £92M compared to the £54M we made last year when we did finish 5th.

So we cannot see things in the Premier league getting any better any time soon – as far as the longevity of Premier League managers.

Let us know how you feel – and we’ll also put the poll on the home page.

Was Ashley Right To Keep Pardew As Newcastle Manager?

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223 responses so far ↓

  • 1 jonobbad // May 24, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    This should be interesting

  • 2 nufc786 // May 24, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    i posted this 2 articles ago and i thought it was very interesting
    http://www.thisisanfield.com/features/superb-tactical-video-analysis-of-liverpool-6-0-newcastle/

    http://www.thisisanfield.com/2013/01/explaining-the-4-3-3/

    great bit of analysis on liverpools tactics based on their 4
    philosophy the 4Ps i think

    Possesion
    patientce
    penetration
    pressure

    can you imagine if a manager like this insalled a similar philosphy on our players…

    i cant see pardew doing it

  • 3 nufc786 // May 24, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    i posted this 2 articles ago and i thought it was very interesting
    http://www.thisisanfield.com/features/superb-tactical-video-analysis-of-liverpool-6-0-newcastle/

    great bit of analysis on liverpools tactics based on their 4
    philosophy the 4Ps i think

    Possesion
    patientce
    penetration
    pressure

    can you imagine if a manager like this insalled a similar philosphy on our players…

    i cant see pardew doing it

  • 4 niafron // May 24, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    Impossible to answer this question, cause we don’t know if Pard suggested changes in the way the first team work.

    If he simply ask to keep going, sure, was a bad idea to keep him.

    I just wait to see if there’s change in the staff this summer.

  • 5 nufc786 // May 24, 2013 at 9:02 PM

    *installed
    *philsophy

  • 6 niafron // May 24, 2013 at 9:05 PM

    @nufc786

    Ahah!

    I didn’t even notice, but sure, i m not the best judge of a correct english!

  • 7 BandB // May 24, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    All sorts of bloggers have been screaming for this poll for weeks.
    Now the question is: “Should we have run for that bus lads?”
    Ed, can you explain why you didn’t want to put it up until now?
    And why now?

  • 8 jonobbad // May 24, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    Nufc786
    Weren’t you right the first time? Philosophy

  • 9 nufc786 // May 24, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    niafron
    hehehe

    happens to all of us

  • 10 Cool Hand Luke // May 24, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    Haha yeah, this’ll be fun 😉 *grabs chair and popcorn*

  • 11 jonobbad // May 24, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    Nufc
    Ah I see ignore me

  • 12 Graeme // May 24, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    Its a double edged sword Ed!!

    Yes, if we can get a better, coach, tactician, trainer, manager.
    No, if we end up with a Souness, JFK, FSA etc

    I’ll give him to January 1st to prove 5th place wasnt a fluke and 5th bottom was!!!

  • 13 nufc786 // May 24, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    jonobbad
    sorry… it was comment numer 3 2nd last line

  • 14 jonobbad // May 24, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    He probably left it so we calm down and see it without being in a rage from the moment.
    Also pardew has only just been confirmed to stay so couldn’t have done it much earlier.

  • 15 yo-yo // May 24, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    I’ve voted NO even though I can see the argument for giving him 10 games next season. The disruption of changing manager is very high risk so it was a close call for me. I’ve pretty much supported him up to the Liverpool capitulation because there have been many bad things happen to us this season and he is only parytly responsible. The 0-6 was the final straw for me. I think he has many strong points and many weaknesses but these only average out to very mediocre.

  • 16 niafron // May 24, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    I’m off.

    Bonne soirée messieurs.

  • 17 nufc786 // May 24, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    yo-yo

    the derby was the last straw for me.. that really hurt

  • 18 nufc786 // May 24, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    niafron
    have a good one

  • 19 Le Belfast 007 // May 24, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    Finally Haha

    The most requested poll ever has finally appeared.

    I voted no.

    Honestly don’t think he’s capable of changing his ways.
    I assume the only reason he kept his job, was because he’s a yes man who wont moan or groan about their transfer policy & lack of investment.

  • 20 John Tudor // May 24, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    we will be seen as pardews gutless wonders as long as he stays

  • 21 nufc786 // May 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    The season was so bad and tiote was so out of form i couldn’t even bring out tiote banter :(

  • 22 Mark the Mag // May 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    I voted yes, keep him but now I feel dirty.

  • 23 SupaToonKid // May 24, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    Definitely proves most people want him out 67% for sacking & 33% against. Of course I voted MA was wrong not to get rid as it’s obvious Pardew is a hopeless lout!

  • 24 Le Belfast 007 // May 24, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    Also find it strange that Hughton was deemed not good enough, but Pardew kept his job.

  • 25 AndyNUFC // May 24, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    I will give Pardew half the season, with at least 4-5 new players, and his targets in regards to a cup run and what teams we can comfortably beat.

    Only NUFC goes from 5th to 16th. Only NUFC beats Chelsea 3-2 from 2-1 down… Then gets to the Europa league quarter final… Then loses 6 – 0 and 3 – 0 against Sunderland.

    It isnt just a manager problem though, though SBR came close he didnt even win anything here. The whole club philosophy needs change, we need the academy giving us a bench player at the very least every couple of seasons, we need to keep signing talented, hungry players with a good spirit, above all we need an owner that wants to see us write history – win a cup before the next lifetime and even if he sold up would be happy to know we would be still challenging 10 years down the line.

    It makes me wonder when you look at Man Us debt, risk it all for worldwide acclaim and success, or play it safe until you have a club making £50mill profit each year?

    Wonder what Ashley thinks.

  • 26 nufc786 // May 24, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    colo is argentina squad…. wonder if san lorenzo will try to talk to him from their…

    http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-wire/coloccini-heads-back-to-play-for-argentina/?

  • 27 Big Pappa Cissé // May 24, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    The fact that you have to ask the question tells you everything you should know. Clueless manager.

  • 28 Toon-Prodigy // May 24, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    Well, i’v voted yes because im looking at the season on a whole and my reasoning is the board are alot more to blame for the failures this season.

    I can’t knock a manager and coaching staff who were set up for failure from the start, then given deperate attempts in January to keep us in the league because of it.

    Also, the fact we kept 15 clean sheets last season which is not luck, something right was being done with this squad and I have faith they can replicate the success. 5th was an amazing achievement and there was alot of success with this coaching setup.

    An odd poor season while we are building is nothing to me at this present time so long as we keep growing the squad each season. Our time will come.

    He has until Christmas for me.

  • 29 scout // May 24, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    How is it a risk to change the manager? The team has less balance than an all day pi** head. People getting a game when they show no apparent form, strange substitutions almost like a lottery draw scenario the bloke is as popular as a rattle snake in a lucky dip, give a decent manager 30 million and you’ll be knocking on the door for Europe again.

  • 30 sparky55 // May 24, 2013 at 9:34 PM

    ask me one on sport!

  • 31 John Tudor // May 24, 2013 at 9:34 PM

    if set up for failure who is to blame then?

  • 32 SupaToonKid // May 24, 2013 at 9:34 PM

    1 thing I don’t get is how everybody wants to sell Tioté. Have you all forgotten how immense he was in his 1st 2 seasons? He is just a victim of Pardew & company’s bad coaching & management. He is a CDM not a box to box or deep lying play maker! His role is to allow people like Ben Arfa and Cabaye to have freedom in their play. So many players like Cabaye & Ben Arfa have been victims of the Pardew era but Tioté and Cissé’s victimisation has been more noticeable due to 1 relied on to score all our goals and the other to prevent many of ours. Jonas unfortunately looks like he has no chance to redeem himself as Pardew has completely destroyed every ounce of attacking ability in his body. This just adds more to my hatred of this arrogant fool we have managing our beloved side and the great need to sack him. We do not need Matuidi as we have so many talented CDMs (Sissoko, Tioté, Anita, Bigirimana and even Perch to an extent). We just need somebody to revitalise Tioté as he’s a top CDM. Definitely 1 if not the best in the league. I just beg he can be brought back to the 5th place finish season and 1 before that as he was amazing. We can only pray a miracle occurs and Pardew learns how to become a proper manager that us & the players deserve.

  • 33 sparky55 // May 24, 2013 at 9:34 PM

    is this a trick question…am I missing something????

  • 34 Shiremagpies // May 24, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    No he was fooking wrong

  • 35 89Norcal // May 24, 2013 at 9:36 PM

    In my humble and unbiased opinion, and considering rafa was waiting for the go ahead..I would have to say Pardews tactical errors last season in spite of injury and transfer inactivity warranted sacking him and signing rafa. But if our options had been average I would say just stick with pardew.

  • 36 Sazzer // May 24, 2013 at 9:38 PM

    nufc786
    Possession
    Patience
    Penetration
    Pressure
    Sounds like happy ending in Liverpool.

    Which reminds me of this:
    1:23 into the clip
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqxpRjt7LtQ

  • 37 Newcastle Brown Alien // May 24, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    Mr pardew 2 thirds of us hate you, get lost

  • 38 John Tudor // May 24, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    pardew=wet limp lettuce

  • 39 stuart no9 // May 24, 2013 at 9:40 PM

    Of course ash wasnt right to keep pards on .
    He has kept him on for 2 reasons – both of which are not related to football. F irst . Ash does not want to look stupid , which he will do as he has given pards an 8 year contract ( cough couch ) and to sack him after just one year , would be detremental to his street cred. secondly – its his mate. however come september or october when we are in the bottom 3 and looking the fizzy pop league eye, he may have to sack him. After reading newspaper reports that his job was never under threat , is shocking , and backs up my theory that ” its his mate” after such a disgraceful season , his job was never “under threat ”
    I will just bide my time and wait for the inevitable to happen – and it should not be too far away .

  • 40 John Tudor // May 24, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    6-1 for the drop next year

  • 41 scout // May 24, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    Injuries, that’s all he ever says, should still turn reading and Mackems over at home with injuries. They also had players out, it all went wrong when ba was sold its like man.u selling van persie one man can make a massive difference.

  • 42 Laurent Robert 32 // May 24, 2013 at 9:48 PM

    nufc 786 – good post that.

    It was blatantly obvious at the match that as soon as one of the Liverpool players touched the ball there were two or three runners bursting into space.

    We were statues throughout the game in possession because Pardew is teaching the players none of this pass and move style during the week.

    Our technical level of players should be playing with a similar philosophy, not the off the cuff hope-ball like he has us playing now.

  • 43 Big Pappa Cissé // May 24, 2013 at 9:48 PM

    @ scout

    Don’t you know ? , we are the only club to have had injuries in a season ever, Imagine that :) . The only thing he is good for is making excuses. The guy should be a politician

  • 44 Mark the Mag // May 24, 2013 at 9:48 PM

    SupaToonKid
    Spot on mate, about all you said imo, hope the miracle your praying for becomes true.

  • 45 sparky55 // May 24, 2013 at 9:49 PM

    If you really want to know what the fans really think about pardew, how about marking Pardew out of 10 for a series of questions something like…

    General tactical ability
    team formations
    substitutions
    Set plays
    getting the most out of players
    ability to change tactics during a game
    half time team talks
    after-match interviews

    I’m sure you can think of a few more lads…I think ten questions marked out of 10 would give us a fair representation of the fans feelings.

  • 46 AndyNUFC // May 24, 2013 at 9:50 PM

    Football, to use a cliche, is a funny old game.

    Close(ish) rivals Boro looked great for promotion, possibly automatic at christmas, they imploded in 2013. A game of 2 halves, a lot happens in a week, month, season or 2 years in football.

    Give Pardew another year. 2 out of 3 5th place finishes and would you want him gone?

  • 47 Toon-Prodigy // May 24, 2013 at 9:51 PM

    Laurent Robert,

    Now howay.

    You don’t know anything what goes on in training. It’s all guess work and pure speculation on a supporters behalf.

  • 48 Munster Mag // May 24, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    Supatoonkid, wat did u think of ur hero Tiote’s efforts against Liverpool. I would call them a disgrace.

  • 49 Joe Blog // May 24, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    No, he’s a shit stain.

  • 50 croftus5678 // May 24, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    rafa wouldnt come to us and neither would most managers!
    any manager that comes in will want there own players (we can argue about them doing good with players we have ect but fact is only lesser ambitious managers will do that)

    with the set up nufc have it needs the right people in place i.e. carr to get real bargains and the manager wants them or they dont and dont get to pick there own targets/a manager who accepts that and doesnt rock the boat/an owner that only spends what the club earns if possible ect ect.

    6 month’s for pards and a realistic top 10 aim (which should be doable if we only sign 1 player being a striker of some quality)

    me personally after the pro’s and con’s of it all am fine with seeing how it goes based on transfers !
    for me the must is a striker and its the main thing i will be crying about next season if we only got 1 avg or no strikers in before the start.

  • 51 Munster Mag // May 24, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    Can I re-iterate for the umpteenth time…..Pardew got the Toon job without competition. Just what does that say about Ashleys levels of ambition? We’re going nowhere chaps because the players have found out what Pardew is all about . Shit coaching and excuses.

  • 52 sparky55 // May 24, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    MUNSTER MAG…nice and succinct that one…well said!

  • 53 Big Pappa Cissé // May 24, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    Pardew is the only manager I have seen to effectively play 6 defensive players (at home) to Liverpool and get smashed 6-0 . Not only that but he supposedly works on the defence 4 days a week :) . You can’t write this stuff.

  • 54 scout // May 24, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    BPC
    Brilliant Craic, I’d get them top 10, the main thing I reckon is the lack of humour in the team, no jokers in the squad. Not many players smiling on the pitch. How about huddlestone from spurs a good ball players or maybe Charlie Adam, people who can create chances. Buckley on the wing from Brighton, someone suggested him the other day, great shout. He’s no world beater but if he can cross a ball he will be an improvement on what we have currently

  • 55 Toon-Prodigy // May 24, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    Munster,

    Maybe they have found out what Ashley and Llambias is all about?

  • 56 Le Belfast 007 // May 24, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    That was me scout.

    But we don’t sign English players these days, so Buckley is probably a non starter.

  • 57 sparky55 // May 24, 2013 at 10:02 PM

    toon…lambias and ashley don’t manage and coach the team

  • 58 leeb1982 // May 24, 2013 at 10:03 PM

    Well at least 168 people don’t watch us play every week

  • 59 Laurent Robert 32 // May 24, 2013 at 10:03 PM

    Prodigy. It’s not happening on the pitch, or anywhere near it and hasn’t since he’s been here. Many others can see it, not just myself.

    These are professional players who can follow instructions and in no way do we have pre-planned and effective movements of that Liverpool level.

    Even if they were teaching it, they aren’t doing it right because it’s not showing on match-day. We aren’t getting performances on the pitch. Plus, Pardew has said they work on defence most of the week…

    How are they supposed to formulate attacks when they’re not putting the time developing it on the training ground?

    They don’t, AND IT SHOWS.

  • 60 sparky55 // May 24, 2013 at 10:03 PM

    and although ashley didn’t strengthen when he should have…he did in January and with 5 very good players recruited we got worse…nowt to do with Ashley…all to do with Pardew

  • 61 Le Belfast 007 // May 24, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    Think Pardew will get a right thrashing in this poll like.

    It probably would of been a lot worse 3-4 weeks ago lol

  • 62 Toon-Prodigy // May 24, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    Sparky,

    No they don’t I agree. But they do supply the tools to do the job in hand.

    If that is insufficient, your asking for problems. Which we have all witnessed this season. Pardew is not the only one to blame here.

  • 63 leeb1982 // May 24, 2013 at 10:05 PM

    Scout no point crossing when ur forwards are poor in the air or are either ,5 yards offside

  • 64 Le Belfast 007 // May 24, 2013 at 10:09 PM

    Apparently we’re competing with Liverpool & Spurs for our transfer targets this summer. lol

    Probably best to move onto the next list of targets, instead of wasting our time.

  • 65 sparky55 // May 24, 2013 at 10:09 PM

    toon…I think most people on this blog would say he’s got a good set of tools (squad) the best tool box we’ve had for years in fact…so it’s defo the fault of the mechanic that we’ve got a V12 engine running like a 2CV.

  • 66 scout // May 24, 2013 at 10:11 PM

    Alright Belfast,
    Need some old heads in the team as well. Another player from Brighton would be Spanish Dave as they call him. Davide Lopez he can play although he did roll like a sniper attack against us.

  • 67 AndyNUFC // May 24, 2013 at 10:11 PM

    For those saying no, that would mean a replacement coach.

    Put yourself in Mr “progressive, continental coach” Benitez’s shoes. He thinks, oh so I will be the lowest paid manager in the league, will be given 1 signing each summer, hopefully 5 cut price foreign players in January, will be told to balance the league with at least a quarter final European run whilst bringing the kids through, and if an injury crisis wipes my star players out for the majority of the season with the captain doing a runner, anything below the top half means I am sacked…

    … any better ideas, lads?

  • 68 sparky55 // May 24, 2013 at 10:12 PM

    BELFAST…bang on the money…we realistically need to be looking to the championship, Campbell or people like Carroll, bent and crouch…that’s how bad things are because who else would want to come to us now

  • 69 leeb1982 // May 24, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    Le Belfast very true they throwing that aubergine-yang fellow from Etienne about. We have no hope. I see it all ready we are throwing names of players we have no chance of getting and then an excuse we tried. Then Colo not going will be like a new player along with krul vuckic and raylor

  • 70 stuart no9 // May 24, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    Andynufc@45———
    Give Pardew another year. 2 out of 3 5th place finishes and would you want him gone
    pointless question . You are asking something that hasnt happened yet . a hypothetical question that means nothing untill it has been acheived. historically , over 12 years of management , there is no evidence to prove that could ever happen.

  • 71 Mister Tuff // May 24, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    What happens in training, what routines and tactics are practised. It’s true we do not know (especially after the training ground was enclosed with hoardings to stop evil spies finding out our secrets -ha ha ha).
    When an orchestra spend hours and hours in rehersals and practising again and again often at the whim of the conductor – we see the fruits of their labours in the subsequent public performance. A quality performance is apparent for all to see -suggesting that the rehersals have been productive.
    I am aware as to whether what I watch is quality or poor football.

  • 72 corkypants85 // May 24, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    Shit i clicked the wrong one

  • 73 AndyNUFC // May 24, 2013 at 10:18 PM

    Well Stuart, we have itchy feet as a club for the last 20 years. Would it not do some benefit to allow a single manager to develop over more than 2 seasons and see where it takes us?

    I completely appreciate the short patience with such a dismal season, however as Geordies I just would imagine we know exactly what it means to take the good with the bad.

  • 74 Munster Mag // May 24, 2013 at 10:19 PM

    Toon Prodigy, you’re backing the wrong horse. How shit do things have to be before you’ll admit that. Maybe out it another way…you seem to tacitly defend Pardews training regime because we cant see it day to day. Well we all see rubbish corners, rubbish free kicks, poor ability to keep possession and poor defending. Would it be remotely possible that this is attributable to a limited manager with limited training ability ???

  • 75 leeb1982 // May 24, 2013 at 10:20 PM

    Those who back pardumb. When us enough enough. How long Di you give thus noob

  • 76 sparky55 // May 24, 2013 at 10:21 PM

    I can understand being a pro pardew campaigner that you’re highlighting the bad things he’s had to deal with, but surely you can’t defend the tactics on the day with the players he’s had available since xmas.

    would you have set up that way against liverpool
    would you set up that way against the mackems
    would you continually play 3 defensive midfielders
    would you have played cisse up on his own or on the right wing
    would you have left Anita on the bench all this time after 3 MOM’s on the bounce
    would you keep on playing guti
    would you have played marv more
    Would you not have tried more attacking formations
    would you have told the team to defend every time we score

    I could go on

  • 77 scout // May 24, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    1982
    You’re right about the offside, he can’t know the rules it’s tragic.
    What about the lad dyer from Swansea, better than we have sign him up.

  • 78 croftus5678 // May 24, 2013 at 10:23 PM

    @67 sparky55

    hehe and what makes you think we have ever deserved to be better than that all the way back to the robson era ad still then we was only just top 6 material !

    all of a sudden we are signing great players well above our means and we finished 5th “once” and all of a sudden its a major disgrace if we are not in the top 6 lol.

  • 79 Le Belfast 007 // May 24, 2013 at 10:27 PM

    There’s no point even bothering if we’re competing with Spurs & Liverpool for players this summer.
    Last summer we missed the opportunity to do that.

    Just move on to other targets. Please don’t waste all summer pussy footing around again. Just go down to the championship & sign the best young players from there.

    We’re competing with West Brom, Norwich, Aston Villa and the likes this summer.

    Think Pardew needs to wake up to that fact…

  • 80 scout // May 24, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    I’ve seen them celebrities with Gordon Ramsey and busted in the team look more together than this lot after a week together, it’s like they don’t even know each other. No through balls, decent runs, shots from outside the box nowt, but its affordable so hey ho.

  • 81 sparky55 // May 24, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    croftus…I have no delusions whatsoever…I’m merely pointing out the names being bantered around are pure fantasy in a vain attempt to lower expectations

  • 82 toonarmydownsouth // May 24, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    Leeb
    Just out of interest, what exactly does it matter if a poster backs pardew or not? Ashley is backing him so the whole arguement and name calling of posters who are or aren’t supporting him is completely pointless
    A but like this poll really, it makes absolutely no difference to anything at all

  • 83 stuart no9 // May 24, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    andyNUFC——-

    Would it not do some benefit to allow a single manager to develop over more than 2 seasons and see where it takes us?—- Yes ii would ., however would it not be beneficial if that manager in question , had some proven track record of taking that club to a higher level.?

  • 84 Toon-Prodigy // May 24, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    Lads,

    All I do is look at the situation as a whole. Instead of blaming one man, im willing to look at all angles and measure up which other reasons have contributed to last seasons downfall. There facts, not speculation or ifs and buts. These things have happened and contributed.

    With respect and I hate to say this, but you lot are in grave danger of being “clamped” up by this cockney you hate by Christmas.

    The odds are stacked against you’s lads.

    We can only go on to do better next season.

    Until we are ready to break the top 4-6 there will be no sign of a Quality manager coming to NUFC.

    Im off on the drink, have a good neet lads.

  • 85 dcdick // May 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM

    0-3………..0-6……………..

    2 Home games that we just rolled over & capitulated in

    The buck should have stopped at Pardew…………what is this man doing to our players

    BOLLOCKS !!

  • 86 croftus5678 // May 24, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    @78 belfast

    the problem there is that most people have different views “apart from the sheep” and the “fans who know better” i’m sure will see that as no ambition and we are planning for championships ect ect.

  • 87 Mister Tuff // May 24, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    New Pardew prospective signing on trial at Darsley Park?
    I’m not claiming any scoops though. Link:-
    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/11/15/article-1329805-0C0CF2CB000005DC-886_468x734.jpg

  • 88 leeb1982 // May 24, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    Tads it’s all pointless on here. What I say and what you say is pointless. When did I call anyone

  • 89 sparky55 // May 24, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    mister tuff priceless!!! lol

  • 90 leeb1982 // May 24, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    So tads out of curiosity what are your views on our last 3 home games? Where did it go wrong and who’s to blame

  • 91 Le Belfast 007 // May 24, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    That guy with the long name ferk knows how you spell it. He’s been linked with all the top clubs in the world.

    That rich Russian club in for him now too.

    Absolutely no chance of signing him.

    I just get the feeling we’re going to pussyfoot around trying to sign players we’ve no chance of getting this summer. Hope I’m wrong like.

  • 92 jimmysmith // May 24, 2013 at 10:39 PM

    That 7 year contract was a mistake, although most things are in life in hindsight.

    We probably do need a better manager considering the nature of the job. Doesn’t make him hopeless, just out of his depth.

    He has the chance now to quieten his critics, but he seems unlikely to have us consistently challenging top 6, which is where the club should be.

    I

  • 93 Mister Tuff // May 24, 2013 at 10:39 PM

    sparky -glad you liked it -probably will be the standard unless the fat man breaks some of his limits on players -better players cost more.

  • 94 yo-yo // May 24, 2013 at 10:39 PM

    leeb

    Sad but true – blogging is s totally futile exercise and even more futile if you post the same post, over and over, almost every day for month after month after month.
    Glad me and you aren’t like that :)

  • 95 Laurent Robert 32 // May 24, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    Mister Tuff, that some experience there mind.

    Of course if he played, then we’d not have enough youth, or X, Y, Z, AA, AB, AC off the excuse reel. He’ll get tired for sure.

  • 96 leeb1982 // May 24, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    Carlton Cole will be our first signing. I just have a horrible feeling

  • 97 sparky55 // May 24, 2013 at 10:41 PM

    mister tuff…I just hope he’s not another defensive midfielder!

  • 98 yo-yo // May 24, 2013 at 10:41 PM

    We’re all supposed to sing “things can only get better” to cheer ourselves up….it’s either that or the drink..

  • 99 croftus5678 // May 24, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    to be like arsenal/manu/liverpool/manc/chelsea you need either money and very little care or patience/luck and motivation !
    patience is definatly not one of nufc’s attributes as most seem to think we should be challenging for europe and the prem at this stage ^^ ! motivation is the same partly pards partly players and partly the fact they have so much pressure to win ! luck however even though a lot has gone against us with injuries/goals unfairly ruled off ect we have managed to get players we shouldnt have got i.e. arfa/cabaye/sissoko/mbiwa/anita/debuchy so once they hopefully settle in (cant blame pards for mistakes made in games) we should have a great team.

    bring on next year and see where we are at xmas see if the same people are saying the same things then ! if they are bye bye pards.

  • 100 Mister Tuff // May 24, 2013 at 10:43 PM

    Laurent – if we sign players like him Percy could probably genuinely cite that the players were tired – using one of his most well used excuses!

  • 101 AndyNUFC // May 24, 2013 at 10:43 PM

    Stuart I completely agree. To that point we are supposed to rue the day Keegan lost us a 12 point lead – I’m more gutted we never gave Sir Bobby another 2 years.

    If you gave me Girard from Montpellier, with an ambition to either get top 4 or a cup within 2 years from a budget of say £50mill, I wouldn’t care less where Pardew ends up.

    As it stands, it seems we are either allowing a previously mediocre manager to keep on keeping us mid table, or hoping we have him shine through.

  • 102 Mark the Mag // May 24, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    Pardrew is the manager next season….end of ! We all know his weakness they are blatant for everybody to see.
    Now the focus should be on how much Ashley is going to spend on key players.
    Even with his limited coaching abilities if we can avoid :
    injuries
    get some new players
    have a few of the youngsters contribute
    have fewer fixtures
    settled back four
    we should have a good chance to challenge the top 7 and keep progressing each year with our young players getting more experienced.
    Pardrew is not the long term option for the club but until Ashley leaves aswel its the best we are get.

  • 103 bollance // May 24, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    For the past few months there has been growing unrest amongst the posters on here.

    Why have very few criticised the players who have been in some cases a shadow of last season?

    Added to that a lack of confidence and movement has led to balls being passed backwards continuously to the keeper which when Krul has played have been hoofed forward. Is the manager really culpable for this?

    MA has cast his decision. Maybe he has been unable to find a suitable replacement.

    I posted a while back Pards would go along with some big names. The cash generated would make a big kitty to attract a new manager who would build a squad capable of mounting a challenge for Europe.

    We are now at a boom or bust. Either we go for Champs league which is highly unlikely or we finish outside of Europa places as Pards is not a fan of Europa..

    My strategy would be wheel and deal. We need to offload a lot of players who have reached their sell by dates and other players who aren’t what we need.

    There will be players on Carr’s list who will make a difference.

    Forget bringing any youngsters through next season as non are ready. That has been another problem even overlooked by Pards.

    In conclusion, its down to MA to go big this summer. To go big he needs to sell big. I would sell the following,

    Cabs – poor season, looks like he wants away
    HBA – too many injuries
    Colo – if he wants to go..
    Krul – For big offer, plus if we can replace
    Cisse – Only if we can get better 2/3 STs in.
    Guti – Poor most of season
    Santon – Haidara plus MYM is excellent at LB
    Obertan – no need to comment

    That should bring some bring some cash in.

  • 104 jimmysmith // May 24, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    Impeccably turned out footballer with beautiful balance Tuff.

  • 105 toon kk // May 24, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    MA made a big mistake getting rid of C.H. he would have had our current team playing far better than Pards.

  • 106 Mister Tuff // May 24, 2013 at 10:47 PM

    sparky @96 – no he is an inside forward -I’m reliably informed he beat Shola in a 100 metre sprint.

  • 107 sparky55 // May 24, 2013 at 10:49 PM

    lol….on that note I’m fcuking off to bed with a smile on me face!

  • 108 89Norcal // May 24, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    Mark the Mag

    Your comment is exactly why I hold some faith in Pardew’s tactics. He’s mind numbingly wrong at times but he still has his good games and a list of average ones. To suggest that a team half-full of foreigners can manage itself to the top 7 in probably the strongest league in the world is ludicrous…

  • 109 croftus5678 // May 24, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    @101 mark the mag

    sum’s it up perfect m8 well done.

  • 110 Mister Tuff // May 24, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    jimmysmith @103 -probably was a good footballer -got no idea who it is -but as you spot -good balance -could do with an application of a bottle of Grecian 2000 though.

  • 111 leeb1982 // May 24, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    Bollance my reasons for not having ago at those players is simple. I see world class players but our idiot manager has them in a style and system fit for stoke. Why have hba Cabaye Anita marv if all u wanna do is pump it long nick a goal and sit back. That’s why I don’t criticize players when it’s the managers inability dragging them down. E.g. Look how good sissoko was before pards gotta hold of him

  • 112 scout // May 24, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    Toon prod
    10.30 I’m off out on the drink haha brilliant
    Message to the club, the young cheap player policy to sell on for massive profit is going down the gutter, buy some players over 30 coz the lads in the team now are kinda looking stupid. Lets call it a mentor scheme you can learn a lot by mirroring a players qualities.
    The young lads don’t have a senior pro to look up to god I miss Gary Speed, god rest his soul, I can still see him now spinning and attacking the corners flying in, what a player you were sir.

  • 113 jimmysmith // May 24, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    Ash is really just developing his asset as best he can in a volatile industry.

    He’ll plough back in the profits, make it a sustainable and profitable business and then likely sell if the right offer comes in.

    So no marquee signings and big time Charlie managers and as a consequence no flashy football.

    Sensible, but less fun than we are used to up here.

  • 114 89Norcal // May 24, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    leeb1982

    Sissoko was one of the top players in the first couple months of joining the EPL and was instantly scoring and creating goals.

    Do you people watch games for yourselves or just repeat what other people say to stir it up?

  • 115 Mark the Mag // May 24, 2013 at 10:59 PM

    I think we will be hard to beat with another good defensive record next season. I think our knack of stealing games last season will return with the extra freshness of no EL. It was a very fine balance the 5th place season between victory and defeat and we pinched a lot of games because we had a steely edge and good defence. I think this will return next season with fewer games and hopefully our players will get back into that zone like we when we won all those games in a row.

  • 116 toonarmydownsouth // May 24, 2013 at 10:59 PM

    Leeb
    Did I say you called anyone names?
    I was simply saying what does it matter when bloggers think its enough

    I’ve said my bit on the season and to be perfectly honest I’m done looking back at last season and p1ssing and whining about what could of been, who did what, why this and that happened, it’s done, it’s in the past, pardew isn’t going anywhere so just going to look forward to next season and hope the club as a whole has learnt from its mistakes

  • 117 leeb1982 // May 24, 2013 at 11:01 PM

    Just a thought. When cabs takes a corner he puts his hand(s) up. Is this hands up if pardews shite hands up if Padres shite…..

  • 118 stuart no9 // May 24, 2013 at 11:01 PM

    andyNUFC——–I’m more gutted we never gave Sir Bobby another 2 years.
    I am. Getting rid of sir bob was nothing short of barbaric .
    the difference in class between him and pards , goes without saying. hence my comment on getting the right man in charge before offering 8 year contracts too all and sundry.

  • 119 croftus5678 // May 24, 2013 at 11:01 PM

    @110 leeb

    i think cabaye/marv/sissoko/arfa have improved since joining nufc buddy.

    marv was considered fairly good player but now i would class him as better definatly.
    cabaye was good but now he’s regular starter for france.
    arfa was hell on legs with attitude and sulking often even refusing to play in parts and now he’s allways motivated.
    and sissoko was purely defensive and now he’s going forward and shooting when he can (imo adding a lot to his game).

    agree on anita to the point where he’s not a better player than the reputation he came to us with but hopefully tht may change once he cements a starting position.

  • 120 Mark the Mag // May 24, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    89Nortcal
    I’m Ludacris to suggest that he can get the team a top 7finish, yet he guided them to 5th place ?

  • 121 scout // May 24, 2013 at 11:06 PM

    Sissoko improved??? How many good games has he had, less than 3 and more than 1

  • 122 leeb1982 // May 24, 2013 at 11:07 PM

    Tads @81 name calling

  • 123 scout // May 24, 2013 at 11:10 PM

    2 away wins all season 5th place yeah yeah yeah, ne chance.
    Nearly 70 goals against with a defensive team, how is he still in charge?
    It’s nice to see hughton going quietly about his business at Norwich, I couldn’t name 5 players from there first team, he’s done an amazing job

  • 124 toonarmydownsouth // May 24, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    Leeb
    It’s a generalisation, if you back pardew you on your labeled a fanboy or clueless if you don’t your a neggar

  • 125 leeb1982 // May 24, 2013 at 11:12 PM

    Scout I can’t be arsed to argue much more not worth a reply. If people think parses has improved players then so be it. All I’ll say is go support stoke. They play ur style

  • 126 leeb1982 // May 24, 2013 at 11:14 PM

    No tads you say it’s a generalization now because I proved you wrong.

  • 127 jimmysmith // May 24, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    Shearer, Sir Bobby and even KK to a large degree came back as much out of sentiment or desire to give back as an? other inducement. Imagine the state we’d have been in if they hadn’t.

    Top players, coaches and managers just won’t come here if we don’t pay over the odds or if they don’t have ties to the community.

    And Ash aint stumping up, so you’d better hope his business accumen pays dividends cos that’s really our only hope of attaining and maintaining the place at the top table which in so many ways a club of our stature and potential deserves.

  • 128 toonarmydownsouth // May 24, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    Leeb
    Wtf? Proved what wrong? I asked you what did it matter if posters backed pardew or not
    I then said that opinions on the matter, including the poll were pointless it changes nothing so all the debating and name calling going on on here is pointless
    Did I say you we’re name calling? Pls show me where

  • 129 89Norcal // May 24, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    Mark the Mag

    What are you saying exactly? I just don’t think you can call Pardew completely clueless if he can get a team into the top 7, regardless of luck or what have you, we still played some excellent games.

  • 130 leeb1982 // May 24, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    Tads you said I was labelling and calling people. You looked backed and realized I hadn’t so then you decided ur previous comments were generalisations

  • 131 leeb1982 // May 24, 2013 at 11:23 PM

    Tads I told u b4 comment 81

  • 132 toonarmydownsouth // May 24, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    Leeb
    Once again show me where I said you were labelling ppl
    Not once, you asked how long do ppl supporting pardumd give him…..

    Ashley is backing him so the whole arguement and name calling of posters who are or aren’t supporting him is completely pointless
    A bit like this poll

    That is a statement about the situation not an accusation against you

  • 133 scout // May 24, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    Didn’t stoke finish above us?
    Kinda says it all really, oh and the manager got the sack.
    I agree that Pardew has underachieved but the people who say we should be top 4 are crazy. We get cabaye for 4.3 million, hazard goes to the top 4 club for 20 odd million, sissoko 2 million and people on here think he’s ya ya toure give the lad a break.
    Gouffran a 2 million pound striker and Hidara just a kid on the up, we ain’t challenging for anything with buys like this.
    I get what they’re doing I just don’t agree with it, I want to see berbatov or dzeko in but as we know they don’t pay the wages anymore

  • 134 Mark the Mag // May 24, 2013 at 11:32 PM

    89
    When did I say he was clueless ? I said we can all see his weakness which have been exposed this season through lack of investment.
    But now you mention it some of the things he did this season have been clueless.
    Similarly some of the things he done the season before was very good playing to his strengths of keeping games tight and having players who could do something magic to pinch a game.

  • 135 leeb1982 // May 24, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    F@ck sake tads 81 and I quote. Ashley is backing him so the whole argument and NAME CALLING. Of posters who are are aren’t supporting him. Yes it’s there you said it

  • 136 89Norcal // May 24, 2013 at 11:36 PM

    Mark the Mag

    Didnt say you were, but about 75% of those displeased with Pardew say it.

    At any rate my argument still stands that to suggest a team full of players who can hardly speak English can somehow pull themselves up to the top 7 in the EPL is madness. You eventually have to give Pardew some credit and stop chalking up any of his victories to “magic” or luck or other anomalies. There are times where he had us playing proper football when we were healthy.

    I’ve given him his fair bit of blame but some people on here spout the most asinine BS and just repeat what other Pardew haters say.

  • 137 AndyNUFC // May 24, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    It is canny obvious how much Pardew polarizes opinion, simply down to the last 2 polarizing seasons. The ” pro” fans take the off field issues this year as argument against last years on field, the “anti” fans take our league finish and playing style this year to say that last was a fluke.

    It is never black and white with NUFC!

  • 138 leeb1982 // May 24, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    89 norcal what do u say to 3-0 and 6-0

  • 139 GeordieDan // May 24, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    The poll currently has it as 65% no (he should have gone) to just 35% yes.

    Very interesting and I doubt it will swing in Pardew’s favour through the night.

    Personally I voted no and that was for many reasons but not least I think he has been found out as being just tactically very average (and that’s probably being kind).

    I’ll back him and our team regardless this coming season though because if he’s our going to be our manager then I would rather support him and the lads then scream for his resignation from the terraces.

    I just sincerely hope he finds some devine intervention this coming season and finally manages to get our team playing really entertaining, fast paced flowing football!

    He’s going to have to re-assess his ego and work very, very hard if he’s going to keep his job beyond October though.

  • 140 scout // May 24, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    Leeb
    Can we get you in the dressing room pal, I feel the passion

  • 141 89Norcal // May 24, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    leeb

    Those were shit games with shit tactics. But unlike you I don’t conveniently ignore the good matches we had under Pardew.

  • 142 stuart no9 // May 24, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    mark the mag@114——–

    I think we will be hard to beat with another good defensive record next season. I think our knack of stealing games last season will return with the extra freshness of no EL. It was a very fine balance the 5th place season between victory and defeat and we pinched a lot of games because we had a steely edge and good defence. I think this will return next season with fewer games and hopefully our players will get back into that zone like we when we won all those games in a row.

    why do you think we , or pardew will come good again ???? we only won 1 game after we were knocked out of europe, why will it come good ??

  • 143 toonarmydownsouth // May 24, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    Leeb
    Once again that’s said as part of a statement as a whole, most of which you’ve left out

    You seem pretty intent on just starting an arguement though so if want a point about calling people, then by asking how long those who support pardumd give him, your basically suggesting those supporting him must be dumb too

  • 144 leeb1982 // May 24, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    Ok 89 norcal give me 5 games this season ee have done well in. Good football n bosses for most the game

  • 145 Mark the Mag // May 24, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    89
    The team this year will have several experienced Premier League players in it, Krul, Saylor, Colo?, Santon, Tiote, Cabaye, HBA, Guti, Cisse so how can you think I am mad to suggest we can get top 7 finish with a manager with limited ability but a squad full of internationals ?

  • 146 leeb1982 // May 24, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    Tads that’s predictive txt off previous statements that my phone remembers. I have never once in this discussion called any1 but u seem ti wanna twist it that way. Why ?

  • 147 jonnyshaw85 // May 24, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    Evening All,
    I voted ‘No’ but I feel I have to justify my answer…
    The reason I answered no was because I feel we have missed an opportunity; I was one of the optimistic fans who would have loved to have seen Rafa Benitez appointed, especially after he seemed to be hinting he would come by saying he wanted to stay in England and would consider a 2-3 yr project etc. but I also know that it was unlikely as Newcastle probably wouldn’t pay the wages he would demand.
    However, I cannot see Newcastle getting rid of Pardew before knowing they could replace him accordingly. I would like to think they would have at least made some enquiries (not just with Rafa but maybe Martinez too as a plan B).
    Therefore, if they didn’t even consider Pardew’s position or indeed his possible replacement then my answer would remain ‘No’ but IF they did at least make some enquiries but found alternatives too expensive etc, then my answer would change to ‘Yes’ as we wouldnt want to have got rid and replace him with someone just as bad or even worse (let’s just hope this isn’t the case come December!!!).

  • 148 jimmysmith // May 24, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Newcastle really do need to evolve and hopefully that’s what’s happening here.

    I think in many ways Ashley has managed to change the culture of the club and put it on a sound financial footing.

    Maybe NUFC as a top notch club is something that our kids are more likely to enjoy than us.

    Bit by bit, piece by piece, from the ground up – that is often how successful organizations and projects are developed.

    It takes trust and patience and that’s a big ask.

    I’m not entirely sold but I recognise it’s on the cards, just as much as I recognise Ash’s schemes may come to a nasty end for us.

  • 149 89Norcal // May 24, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Very few this season leeb though we had a great 1st game vs Bordeaux, vs Wigan, and also Southampton. Last season we had an even better result vs Wigan plus Liverpool at home, Man Utd, and Chelsea along with others like vs. Norwich etc..

    1 game where we played well but lost this season despite having a paper thin squad was the 4-3 vs Man Utd

  • 150 scout // May 24, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Leeb
    Thought you called someone a noob at 74?

  • 151 89Norcal // May 24, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    Mark the Mag

    because football clubs are not autonomous and players are not robots..

    Even Barcelona can’t manage themselves..

  • 152 SupaToonKid // May 24, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    Munster Mag

    Yeah I know he’s had a dreadful season and yeah he was horrendous in that match but are you gonna forget how good he was in the 2 seasons before that and what he was like at Twente?

    Class is permanent form is temporary. That works in reverse for Pardew as he’s a crap manager who had 1 great season. Tioté has played extremely well for the majority of his career but has a terrible dip in form this season but who’s the 1 whose caused that? Pardew! A major reason for Tioté’s decline has been down to how Pards has rushed him back from injuries this season when he hasn’t been ready and he’s put him in precarious situations and also he’s been tactically misused. I seriously fear for your footballing knowledge if you believe a player of such quality can become sh*t after one very poor campaign. Our players are good (in general) but our manager & staff are not, that’s the simple fact!

  • 153 89Norcal // May 24, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    autonomous in the sense the players can control the results btw..

  • 154 Mark the Mag // May 24, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    Stu
    I think we will be well drilled in the summer and make a solid defensive start, that will be the key because we have players who can nick a game.
    Sad I know but that’s the state of the Premiership its very tight and if we get that edge back you never know, we might get the confidence back.

  • 155 leeb1982 // May 24, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    Scout you do know what noob means don’t you. Just before I correct you

  • 156 scout // May 24, 2013 at 11:53 PM

    Haven’t got a clue pal?

  • 157 Mark the Mag // May 24, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    89
    so where do you think he can guide us to ?

  • 158 leeb1982 // May 24, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    Then why say I called some1 a noob if u don’t know wat I’m on about

  • 159 89Norcal // May 24, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    Mark the Mag

    Probably 7th tops. Definitely not saying Pardew is the one to get us to the CL again, but besides Rafa there were few better options..

    Plus MA for some reason screwed himself into having to pay a termination bonus to Pardew if he sacked him; 1.5m per year up til 2020.

  • 160 NUFC BRAZIL // May 24, 2013 at 11:59 PM

    An anagram for the name Alan Pardew = Law And Rape

  • 161 scout // May 25, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    Read it again, I said thought u called, I didn’t wanna argument son

  • 162 Mark the Mag // May 25, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    Thought he had a one season pay off if he did get sacked ?
    Rafa would have brought a style of tactics that St James has probably never seen before. We could only dream of seeing a modern tactician here but im not sure a lot of fans would have got his brand as it can also seem defensive as our fans are renowned for liking attacking style.

  • 163 beddersmag // May 25, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    Im no pardew fan but would prob give him until jan and back him based on last years performances and lots of mitigation for this season gone. Although we were rarely thrilling on our way to 5th i think people forget that as a unit we were defensively solid for the first time i can remember. Aside from about 5 thrashings we were defensively sound and worked really hard for each other making good teams look bad. Last season was an unmitigated disaster but injuries, uefa cup fatigue, decisions, inexperience and key gaps in the squad played a massive part. Excuses of course, but all valid certainly.

    Im in the minority i guess in that i think our current squad is not as good as people think and the good players we do have need to take as much blame as pardew in what happened.

    I was baffled by some decisions late in the season but could put that down to pressure. Blaming him for players being gutless is silly. They are what they are and against liverpool it was not tactics that cost us but guts, or lack of them.

    I would give him a few players and get the rest fit. The young ones have another years experience and dont underestimate how much better we will be playing once a week instead of twice.

    On hoofball. Yes we do go long too much i do agree. But the stats are we play 16% long right? So assuming an average team might play 13% or so. Do people think that pardew instructs his players to play 3% more long balls than others? Or is it more that individual players make autonomous decisions during the game, and there are often reasons for this e.g. they are forcing things through frustration, upon conceding, chasing the game, or when defending a one goal lead etc. Things that happened a lot. Look how teams pass it around when they go a couple up. That hasnt happened to us much.

    Also and more relevant does anyone consider that players might go long because midfield players are not showing, or are losing it when they receive it, which encourages defenders to bypass them. This has happened a lot. Cabaye goes missing, tiote and jonas have been god awful, benny and marveux dont retain possession.

    The point im making is there are reasons beyond the obvious and in pardews favour is that the morale seems to be high. Despite the rumours the goldfish bowl would know if anything was seriously wrong. He bought the players and they seem to like him.

    Give him until Jan. If he cant turn it around then ok he might have lost it and we can review but stability is important so i would be inclined to see how things go next year. Who knows who Ashley might replace him, with and the grass may not be greener.

  • 164 stuart no9 // May 25, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    mark — dont you think if we attacked teams instead of worrying about them , and starting the game on the back foot , our players – who are good enough to give anyone a game on their day, would be better equipped to win a game of football , than to defend for 80 mins and hope we get a quick breakaway and score an opportunist goal. We are better than that . Pardew needs to realise that and change his tactics accordingly , if he dosnt – we will not progress.!

  • 165 Mark the Mag // May 25, 2013 at 12:12 AM

    beddersmag
    good post, hopefully we can get that tight defensive unit back. I thin

  • 166 Mark the Mag // May 25, 2013 at 12:16 AM

    Stu
    definitely your right, I would love to see that happen but this is Pardrew he has already stated he has a strong philosophy of the game lol, so being a tight unit and having record clean sheets like he did that season is going to be our main hope under him unfortunately.

  • 167 Mark the Mag // May 25, 2013 at 12:23 AM

    When Pardrew put himself up for the job he obviously remarked on NUFC’s notorious defence in the recent years and he probably tried to sell himself as an defensive coach who would address this problem but at first we didn’t realise it because he never originally came across as a big sam type coach. That was what our success was built on, he will never be a flair coach because that requires imagination and skills that he just doesn’t possess.

  • 168 jimmysmith // May 25, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    Bedders, thanks for writing the post I could never be bothered to take the time to do myself.

    Needless to say, I agree.

  • 169 Mark the Mag // May 25, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    jinky jim smith @147
    that a great way to see things, I would love to see that happen, you talk a lot of sense.

  • 170 Jamiemac // May 25, 2013 at 12:40 AM

    Quality post bedders.

  • 171 89Norcal // May 25, 2013 at 1:33 AM

    Neymar is still on the fence with two offers. Come on MA get on it!

  • 172 AMEOBI // May 25, 2013 at 1:42 AM

    Leeb,

    At 74 why call someone a noob? Ridiculous if I’m honest

  • 173 AMEOBI // May 25, 2013 at 1:44 AM

    Calling Pardew a noob, oh my god.. pleased you’re off for a week? Lol

  • 174 Offkey // May 25, 2013 at 2:51 AM

    Ameobi@ 171 and 172 – Surely he means ‘noob’ as in door noob……………. or noob of butter…….. (spelling noob wrongly of course). :)

  • 175 Offkey // May 25, 2013 at 2:53 AM

    sorry in advance……Bed noobs and broomsticks

  • 176 terencelim // May 25, 2013 at 3:46 AM

    Ashley keeps him simply because that cost him less money.

  • 177 terencelim // May 25, 2013 at 3:50 AM

    @147 sound financial footing?

    A “sound financial footing” club being one of the only 2 clubs in premier league that doesn’t have net spending in transfer window?

    Don’t believe Ashley’s words just because he claimed so. He lied to the fans more than being honest if you remember the lessons.

  • 178 HullMag6 // May 25, 2013 at 4:29 AM

    He lost me after we got hammered by the bindippers. The derby wasnt a surprise but bad enough.

  • 179 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // May 25, 2013 at 6:00 AM

    I thought about this one…

    By having Ashley keeping Pardew, he did it to spite his face in reverse as such.

    He kept Pardew and the only logical explanation I can see and as many of you pointed out. Pardew was cheaper, he can control him, he is spineless, he is a liar and swings from one statement to another never really tells the truth on anything.

    That suits Ashley well, leaves him to ,for example last year not bring in the summer signings etc. Leave us exposed and weak for a tactical genius like Pardew to hopelessly lead us into battle.

    It also shows we will have mediocrity misery for the next I would say, the next moment of relegation and even then, I would not put it past Pardew to be in charge still.

    Ashley just showed it was easier to stick with a hopeless somebody and deal with him cause he can and it outweighed in his mind a risk of going down again, having us play bad football again, having to see Jonas play ahead of a real talent like Marveaux, Anita being sidelined even though when he came on at Arsenal and had 3-4 deadly passes that opened them up. etc.

    This has also shown many fans inc me, the risk of supporting this club. It begs the question, why must 2/3ds support this club when the majority can see the owner is damaging the club, where the manager clearly is repeating his mistakes as he has done in clubs like West Ham. Who is is stuck up his own bum , to receive critisizm and is so extremely arrogant on the basis of nothing.

    Its saddening to think that a Rafa, granted would take time to settle, but would have us play football, not long ball processions.

    When i see no ball hit the net from corners for 2 years and counting, long balls being punted up to cisse who isnt the strongest lad out there, who when he receives the ball within a run or a good strong low cross can score them, its just painful to sit and understand that decision by Mike.

    I personally would not blame Cabaye and HBA and a few giftet players to hand in their transfers. I would not hold it against them and a few fans who would boo them if they where to play for the opposition are blind hypocrite children. There is a thing called a career, and granted jumping ship for money 24/7 is frowned upon I agree but having it being literally damaged by poor tactics is another.

  • 180 cyprus // May 25, 2013 at 6:15 AM

    Sparky, with this list you do help in giving a more qualified answer:

    General tactical ability: 3
    team formations: 4
    substitutions: 4
    Set plays: 2
    getting the most out of players: 4
    ability to change tactics during a game: 4
    half time team talks: No idea! Basically, we’ve never had two good halves, however
    after-match interviews: “…..” silence is golden

    Of course, there also is that factor of disruption, starting all over again, psychological turmoil, that change brings…. Since he’s staying, I haven’t voted, as the heavy rejection would just panic the guy further.

  • 181 John Tudor // May 25, 2013 at 6:21 AM

    should he have kept him
    not on your furtado

  • 182 John Tudor // May 25, 2013 at 6:24 AM

    just read you gorgonzola
    your hitting the nail on the head

  • 183 Indian Magpie // May 25, 2013 at 6:27 AM

    Cyprus

    Out of 100 No.

  • 184 sparky55 // May 25, 2013 at 6:46 AM

    Take heed everyone…he’s come out and said it’ll be very difficult to keep this squad together over the summer. He’s basically saying he know’s a number of people in the squad can’t wait to leave this sh!te football and sh!te manager behind and move onto pastures new. Cabaye, Krul, tiote on their way. Anita might stay because we need someone to replace cabaye and his value since buying him last year for 6.7 million has probably gone down.

    and we won’t get massive money for them either…he’ll then come out say “you can’t keep a player who wants to leave and who might cause dressing room un-rest so we got the best price we could so we can move forward as a club”

    It’s all starting to unravel already…Ashley will be selling the players he bought cheap 2 years ago and replacing them with kids and dross…GOD HELP US!

  • 185 Hatem's better than Messi // May 25, 2013 at 7:01 AM

    This was the poll we wanted a week ago …

    What’s the point now Ed?

  • 186 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // May 25, 2013 at 7:08 AM

    Sparky yep…

    And this might be the beginning… I dont know. I feel is so sad that fans that are up till early hours of the morning, like Hull Mag or got up early to write about a dear club like myself at 7 Am… have nothing so much to say to a club that has so little to say to us. To respond to us fans. I think without a doubt this is the best supported club in the world, there are however others like Napoli.

    A club that got relegated to the third tier of football in Italy and was most supported EVEN THEN. But now they have a cunning manager with probably the best counter attack football I have seen. They have LOYAL players. Lavezzi was there for ages. in footballing terms before he left.

    I am just sick and tired of not any success for this club and seeing this grey haired clown remain, it will mean nothing for a very long time to come.

    WHo knows maybe Ashley does come to his senses. There have been comments like I hope we lose to QPR so that Pardew gets the boot. Fans where accusing fans like that that they should support team no matter what. Seriously no matter what?

    Are you kidding me. I personally draw the line somewhere. I think certain people need to at least try and empathise with the like that see the BIGGER picture.

    I for one, if I could pull the string of decency and intelligence and the slightest quirky nature of Ashley, that says hey we lost 4 games on the trot next season, maybe this guy is not for the job, i would put my hand in the fire and do so.

    I think last year I was pleasantly surprised how we never lost our talent, granted we barely added it this year, but now I fear we might lose 3 of our top players. 3 being generous.

  • 187 Hatem's better than Messi // May 25, 2013 at 7:15 AM

    Chris Hughton must be shaking his head.

    Gutless decision by Ashley.
    Even when we win its a scramble, we never play with any class.
    Not the right man for the job.
    Now the fans will have to get him out and that’s always negative.

  • 188 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // May 25, 2013 at 7:56 AM

    You do know unless Pardew is doing worse come January than he did this season MA will stick by him?

    …either he sack him now so a new manager has a fresh start or we go with Pardew and hope will learn from past mistakes (I am not that naive though)…

    But the point is changing manager in January is just not a good idea. If we are not worse from wear I would expect MA to wait untill the summer!

  • 189 shearer4pm // May 25, 2013 at 8:05 AM

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11800/8727602/Ligue-1-Claudio-Ranieri-baffled-by-Nampalys-Mendy-decision

  • 190 sparky55 // May 25, 2013 at 8:11 AM

    to be honest the fact fat boy has decided to keep Pardew means I very much doubt he has any real targets of substance that will jeopardise his position if he performs badly or worse than last year

    If Ashley had actually bothered to analyse his managers performance and the teams performances this year just like the fans on this blog have, then there was only one decision to make but he didn’t make it.

    As frustrating as the thought is of Pardew being allowed to let his cancerous activities eat away at the core of the club we have no right of reply or course of action available to us so we’re just moaning and whinging and going round in circles and having petty on-line arguments.

    All we can do is make our feelings known on match day and we’ve had quite a few opportunities to do that of late and we’ve failed miserably….so we only have ourselves to blame for not asking for change which is exactly why we’re not going to get it.

    I sincerely hope next year we make sure he knows we think he doesn’t know what he’s doing and use the song to greater effect.

    Silence won’t get us anywhere

  • 191 sparky55 // May 25, 2013 at 8:15 AM

    shearer4pm..you’re not suggesting he would come to newcastle are you????

  • 192 gfp13 // May 25, 2013 at 8:21 AM

    I think we need to get off to a good start with few wins in the first couple of months otherwise another relegation battle is on the cards, losing can become a habit and its not 1 you want so unless we start well the rot will set in

  • 193 Indian Magpie // May 25, 2013 at 8:24 AM

    Watch this as Alan pardew does a steve Kean -2

  • 194 sparky55 // May 25, 2013 at 8:38 AM

    GFP13…’A few good wins in the first couple of months’ isn’t exactly setting the bar very high is it….I take it you have every confidence in Pardew reversing the downward spiral

  • 195 Toon Tang // May 25, 2013 at 8:44 AM

    same old, same old, same old

  • 196 nico // May 25, 2013 at 8:57 AM

    I’ve been to every home game under Pardew. Even last season when we finished 5th tactically we never looked like we were going to beat teams because of good football. Some great finishes from Cisse was what did it. He sometimes sets us up well defensively, but when we concede, we lose our shape because players don’t know how to defend if they are caught up field.
    Our lack of movement in the last third is worrying as players are capable of going forward but don’t just in case.
    It’s boring football under Pardew. Someone like Martinez would entertain us. With our players and a few good additions we should be top 8. Pardew will struggle to get us there. You just have to look at our goal difference. That is a great monitor of actually how good a team is. We never have a positive goal difference. Even when we finished 5th. We won something like 12 games more than we lost and only had a +5 goal difference. That suggests Pardew isn’t good enough.
    I’d love to be entertained again. At the end of the day, we aren’t going to win the league. Have limited chance of winning a cup. So lets go after teams and score some goals. When was the last time we battered a team?

  • 197 sparky55 // May 25, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    Marseille interested in Steve taylor…if we can get more than 5 million for him we should sell and buy the lad from arsenal who’s for sale…much better than the headless chicken that is taylor.

    110% commitment isn’t always enough

  • 198 sparky55 // May 25, 2013 at 9:02 AM

    well said Nico…but as we all know that won’t happen with Pardew in charge.

    the words entertainment and Pardew have no place in the same sentence

  • 199 saxonfenken // May 25, 2013 at 9:03 AM

    Indian Magpie
    Yes, and Blackburn were better off with Steve Keen than all that has happened since.

  • 200 JackButler // May 25, 2013 at 9:04 AM

    Cameron Jerome rumoured to have asked to leave Stoke and then two days later he seen talking to Pardew in Monaco

  • 201 sparky55 // May 25, 2013 at 9:07 AM

    I’m in monaco now…anyone want me to track him down and tw@t the b@st@rd…Pardew that is of course!

  • 202 JackButler // May 25, 2013 at 9:08 AM

    sparky55

    Yes please………………..oh ans t**t him twice if it’s not too much bother

  • 203 sparky55 // May 25, 2013 at 9:11 AM

    I’m on it…he was a guest of lotus last year and will probs be their guest again this year so I know where to go!

  • 204 JackButler // May 25, 2013 at 9:14 AM

    Try getting him down to the Caterham garage so he can bullsh*t his was into a job and take over at QPR…..Tony Fernandes would love him and the Championship is about Pardews level

  • 205 JackButler // May 25, 2013 at 9:16 AM

    sparky55

    By the way…..not jealous at all that you are over there…..honest :(

  • 206 sparky55 // May 25, 2013 at 9:17 AM

    so am I to negotiate his transfer to QPR or just tw@t him…twice!

  • 207 JackButler // May 25, 2013 at 9:19 AM

    Tw*t him twice, then negotiate his move to QPR…………Everyone’s a winner that way 😀

  • 208 sparky55 // May 25, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    LOL…I’ll have to wear me posh linen suit and loafers when I first approach him then tear it off revealing me toon shit when I tw@t him..

    Might work!

  • 209 dantoon85 // May 25, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    Strap him to a set of primes and throw him overboard

  • 210 gl3w // May 25, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    if you are interested in reading about other clubc’s philosophy’s have a read of this. shows that the whole cultue of our club needs to change if we are to be a sefl sustaining club like Barca or Dortmund. Not unachievable but needs strong leadership

    http://www.leadersinperformance.com/the-leader/malcolm-cook-unlocking-the-barca-code/

  • 211 naptoon // May 25, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    i see the usual shite has already started leaking to press presumably from the club … “no movement for a couple of weeks while pardew on holiday” …. “other targets lined up should we miss out on pea” … deja vu.
    why are we going after players we are unlikely to get ie pea does my nut in the club are always spouting on that they are working toward next window after we suffer a disappointing one the evidence would suggest otherwise. other prem clubs have been quick out of blocks fulham west ham even the mackems have all started you can guarantee in a couple of weeks when pards is back it will be “bussiness will be done in a couple of weeks when ash/llambias/charnley return from holiday” this window stinks already the only genuine target seems to be pea and i cant see it happening…. i hope im wrong but i think come sept 1 ill be crying in my beer.

  • 212 sparky55 // May 25, 2013 at 9:43 AM

    if this poll is a true reflection of the average supporter, then 34,000 supporters should be shouting “you don’t know what you’re doing’ during our first home game of the season.

    On the basis I can’t guarantee I’ll be able to negotiate Pardew’s transfer to QPR…Who wants to stand in front of the dug out with a baton to orchestrate matters during that opening home fixture??…we need to let him know how we feel don’t we???

  • 213 naptoon // May 25, 2013 at 9:46 AM

    ill be surprised if we have 34000 at first game if we have a shite window.

  • 214 JackButler // May 25, 2013 at 9:47 AM

    naptoon

    There’ll be talk of PEA and other players of that quality but truth be told we’ll end up with a Cameron Jerome or a Carlton Cole as I can’t see us attracting the type of player we all want after the season we’ve just had and the type of money we pay

  • 215 naptoon // May 25, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    use the baton to twat pards while u r out there if someone takes up sparkys suggestion

  • 216 naptoon // May 25, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    jb
    dont…
    im already full of doom and gloom this morn.

  • 217 sparky55 // May 25, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    naptoon…sad thing is no matter what dross pardew serves up we’ll always fill the place so it’s never going to be an indicator of how we feel about him and the running of the club…we need to continue filling the place but letting them know through song how we feel

  • 218 corkypants85 // May 25, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    good morning my fellow greatest supporters in the world

    bit more chirpy today i think i have come to realize that im going to have to live with pardew weather i like it or not. We still have to strengthen though, unless we want the same to happen again personally i think we need one cb two strikers and maybe two attacking midfielders or one and a winger!

  • 219 naptoon // May 25, 2013 at 9:53 AM

    i know ill be there myself just full of misery today dunno why … just seeing the same shite trickling into press… like i say deja vu.

  • 220 JackButler // May 25, 2013 at 9:53 AM

    naptoon

    Hahaha……………….sorry mate I just can’t help myself lately but if I’m going over the edge I’m determined to take as many of you with me as I can 😀

  • 221 naptoon // May 25, 2013 at 9:54 AM

    good lad corky … optimism just what i need.

  • 222 Munster Mag // May 25, 2013 at 10:15 AM

    Nico at 196…..good post. Says a lot about this defensive midfielder of a manager we have. No wonder he plays 3 of them at times. He must love it. Anyway, the only good things about the summer is that we wont have to listen to some of Pardews match quotes….but i’ll remind you anyway. :)

    We wasnt a fret
    Thats not my team….my teams are on the front foot
    Me and Colo are both winners
    We was comfortable until they scored and goals change games ( especially when I dont know what to do with my defensive midfielders )
    We need to look past Everton now ( or something like that )
    My team is tired
    “The group” ….etc etc

  • 223 JP...from The Rock // May 25, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    Ed- I think the poll would be more accurate if you also added the option ‘until Christmas’. I think after all the shite we did this season he still got us to the dizzy heights of 5th the one before. Lack of signings n summer and injuries have been a real burden all season (whether you want to admit it or not) and apart from that Pardew has made some huge mistakes in team selection.

    I look at it like this- Best out of 3 and lets see how he’s doing by Christmas.

    If we are still playing dull hoof-ball by then and not high in the league then it’s a no-brainer and we would have plenty of time to recover.




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