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Newcastle’s Clear-Out This Summer – Fringe Players To Leave

10:41 am, Friday, June 7th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 142 Comments

Newcastle’s wage bill is around 67% of the revenues for the last financial year, and there will be an attempt to reduce the wage bill by having a mini clear-out of players this summer – and that’s even more likely to happen after the five Frenchmen arrived in January.

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James Perch – will be sold this summer

The clear out will largely be with fringe players, and news today that 20 year-old Mehdi Abeid has been told he can leave the club.

And it’s a surprise to us that James Perch, who has just one year left on his four-year deal, will also be available, after James has played well these last couple of seasons, after a terrible first season at Newcastle.

But James is a solid player, and would be great for any Championship side looking to be promoted next season, and we have seen he can play anywhere along the back four and in defensive midfield too.

But with the versatile Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa and Moussa Sissoko having just been drafted in – they would be preferred to James Perch – and since James will become a free agent next summer, Newcastle will try to flog him this summer for a decent fee.

And Newcastle will probably make a profit on James,  who signed for around £1M three years ago from Nottingham Forest.

The 27-year-old is on holiday in the Nevada desert right now in Las Vegas, along with a number of other Newcastle players, and it seems that Leicester City are keen on him, after they have failed to gain promotion over the last couple of years – being eliminated each time in the play-offs.

It seems a fee of £1.5M is what Leicester would be willing to offer for the versatile player.

James has made 81 appearances for Newcastle with one goal, but he has also picked up 21 yellow cards – and it seems Newcastle want more than that £1.5M for a player who has been more than decent in the Premier League over the last two seasons.

Newcastle could also look to sell fringe players like Dan Gosling, Gabby Obertan, Mike Williamson and perhaps Romain Amalfitano this summer, and Steve Harper and Danny Simpson will leave at the end of the month when their contracts run out.

And yesterday Danny was being linked with Serie A club Torino in Italy.

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Tags: Dan Gosling · Danny Simpson · Mehdi Abeid · Newcastle News · Steve Harper

142 responses so far ↓

  • 1 archaeomag // Jun 7, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Wayne’s away to Reading!!
    Another one we missed out thanks to . .

  • 2 TorqToon // Jun 7, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Arch – yeah I’m devastated about that! He’d have done well at this club.

    Cant believe he rejected us!!!

    Pardew out!!!

  • 3 jimmysmith // Jun 7, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    Fair enough, not the most awe inspiring collection of talent, although as previously said, disappointed Abeid won`t kick on for us and Simmo would have been good cover at fullback , whereas we seem well resourced in midfield, so James Perch, probably is no longer needed, and could be very valuable to another club.

    Bet he doesn`t wanna go though!

  • 4 Jonny // Jun 7, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    Two things non related to NUFC.

    1. Never knew Fernandino went to City, what a signing that is. WIll be one of the best cm in the league next season 100%

    2. England U21s- Can anyone tell me why the likes of Jones, Welbeck, Chamberlain, Walker, Cleverly, Wilshere, Smalling etc. are not in the squad when the age limit is 23 or something. We could have such a good team and a right go at this tournament. Spain have the likes of Thiago, Munian, Isco, De Gea in their team, why cant we do it?

  • 5 geordiesteve520 // Jun 7, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    It’s alright fellas Carlton Cole is still out there – I don’t know why we don’t go out and sign Danny Simpson, I’ve heard good things about him 😉

  • 6 dbpjake // Jun 7, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    Why sell Perch? We’re hardly going to get much money at all for him and he’s a really useful back up player with a good attitude

  • 7 Abu Qatada - I'm hooked on the football philosophies of Alan Pardew // Jun 7, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    A repost as I’m to slow at typing to keep up with the rest of the blog.

    Well the more you look at it there appears to be plenty blame to share around every one involved in the NUFC first team, last season didn’t start well pre season was about as well organised as one of Alan Pardews post game interviews. The lack of players through the entrance was a downer for everyone: players, fans and manage r- obviously not Lambias as he is clueless, the extra games and the injuries added to fatigue and players just didn’t really perform at all, all season. Pardew’s substitutions were woeful and his repetitive selection of players under performing, that hurt the fringe players so I don’t think they had the impact needed when they did get the last 5 mins of a game. Pardew was in all accounts in his first real season managing in Europe and was out of his depth trying to manage two competitions – IMO (and hindsight is wonderful) he would have been better targeting a domestic cup and using Europe as a pleasant distraction for players and fans, nothing more. But we survived and that in its self is a positive. Every one on this blog accepts our stock isn’t quite what it was last Summer but still expects us to be able to make the same signings! I think a touch of optimistic realism would be useful and also don’t forget a lot of players are still with national teams, we are never quick out of the block on transfers MA likes value for money and he’s been successful in that. Wait be patient enjoy the sunshine reflect on the fact we played awful but survived, look at QPR, Reading and Wigan we’ve been there and it could have been worse playing better football.

  • 8 Ginger // Jun 7, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Gutted about Abeid, thought he had a real future ahead of him.

    Still think he will end up being amazing for whatever team he ends up at instead of us.

  • 9 TorqToon // Jun 7, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    So Chelsea have opened advanced talks with cavani! Talk of a €50 fee.

    Where does that leave big Demba?

  • 10 croftus5678 // Jun 7, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    i may get pounded for this but i would rather keep perch and get rid of tiote >.< more flexability with less worry of getting sent off.

    midfield is definatly a position we can lose some though as i want to see bigi get some chances and also anita playing more !

    cabaye/bigi/sissoko/anita should imo be our main 2 cm's as we can not afford to have 1 person doing well at one job a cm should be able to do everything imo.

  • 11 TorqToon // Jun 7, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Of course that was meant to say €50mil fee!

    Before all the smart @rses appear! 🙂

  • 12 jimmysmith // Jun 7, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    I have a cofession. I actually love the long ball, obviously when it`s delivered well ala Barton and targeted at a battering ram like Carroll.

    Actually, I think I could watch it all day long.

  • 13 TorqToon // Jun 7, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    Croftus – I wouldn’t be against keeping perchy. Always steps up and does a job.

    However he may be used as a makeweight in a future deal with a championship player.

  • 14 dbpjake // Jun 7, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    Sorry Abu but I disagree that it’s a risk to play better football, Wigan and reading just didn’t have the players to do well. Nothing says they might have survived if they had played like stoke. You play to your strengths (which we don’t)

  • 15 Ginger // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:00 AM


    I think Torres may be sold to a club with more money then sense.

  • 16 archaeomag // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    . . . Demba is in the back of a north bound megabus along with wor Andy . . . where else could he be?

  • 17 croftus5678 // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    we (toon fans) always think our new recruits are the best thing ever (and thats a good thing and brings confidence) and abied imo is a chamionship lvl player which aint that bad in fairness to him.

    he’s just been lazy and not mobile imo ! if he had more drive in him instead of waiting for the ball to come to him all the time and only moving when he thinks he will get something out of it himself (create room for others) i think he could have been a prem player !

    the lads still young though and a chance in a 1st team for someone else is maybe what he needs to progress and learn that.

  • 18 dbpjake // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    Croftus – I agree

  • 19 Carryingcoals // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    Just a little something to keep you lot going while the news is slow, I’m getting pretty bored myself…

    Who saved Newcastle United’s Season?!

  • 20 croftus5678 // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    @13 torq

    not sure on perches wages or if he will like to step down a league tbh as i think he’s proven he can do the job in the prem (would fit perfectly in westham/reading/stoke ect) but if a part deal for ince or hughes was on the cards i would not be too sad about the matter lol.

  • 21 archaeomag // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    – I’ll take your word for it, you have to be 100%, or at least aspire to it, for the Prem.

  • 22 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    the qpr right back and the bell!

  • 23 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    that was for carryingcoals by the way!

  • 24 Abu Qatada - I'm hooked on the football philosophies of Alan Pardew // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    Perch is an honest player who will give you a performance but the fact he looked so good last season just highlights how poor we we’re, he is versatile and has a battling spirit but he is never going to be a world beater. I don’t think Pardew would ever play him ahead Tiote and he is not as good as the rest of our CM, he is ok in defence but you’d like to think we should be aiming to improve on what Perch can offer in that dept, so it makes sense he goes as long as he is replaced with better. Still should get a great reception if he ever came back to play @ SJP because in a season of lows he gave everything he was capable of and you ask for more than that.

  • 25 croftus5678 // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:11 AM


    that is a very good point lol

  • 26 Tommyy // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    For me we should be removing Obertan, Williamson, Perch, Tiote, Ameobi.

  • 27 Abu Qatada - I'm hooked on the football philosophies of Alan Pardew // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    dbpjake @ 14 I never said it was mistake to play good football, I was saying we could have played good football with a worse out come. To that end people just need to reflect things could be worse, it would be great to play good football and to be honest if Pardew doesn’t get into that next season he never will and he won’t last for too many games. But lets all just cheer up and lets see if the club end up giving us another window as good as January.

  • 28 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    jinky…can’t be easy talking with your tongue firmly placed in your cheek!

    it’d be like watching two old giffers playing tennis and lobbing the ball back and forth…can’t wait!

  • 29 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Tommyy…it’s not just about who to get rid’s gonna be more about who we replace.

  • 30 Tommyy // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    Jimmy – there’s a difference between long ball and hoof ball, think most fans enjoy watching a properly placed long ball, just hate it when the ball is hoofed and it’s obvious it’ll never reach a target.

  • 31 Phatoon // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    I actually quite like Perch, he’s no world beater but is pretty realiable and versitle.

    He also scored against Man Utd. That was enough for new contract for me 😉

  • 32 dbpjake // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    Abu – I agree we need cheer the hell up, look at this sun! Time for a kickabout with some beers!

    PARDEW OUT!!!!!!! 😉

  • 33 Tommyy // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Sparky – no doubt, but they’re players who are just not up to standard. If they’re replaced by quicker, younger, and better players we’ll be a force if allowed to play football.

  • 34 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    I don’t think the problem is Abeid leaving, but the fact that not many youngsters seem to make it at Neewcastle!

    …most seem to end up Championship players as best. Something has to be wrong at our setup.

    A few days ago someone on here told me that the setup at Crewe was much better and more professional. That should really not be the case!

  • 35 davis_toons // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Stylor can never get the move to Arsenal. Just take a look at them CB. Their height is always as tall as mountain.

  • 36 Abu Qatada - I'm hooked on the football philosophies of Alan Pardew // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    dbpjake @ 32 – pmsl couldn’t have said it better.

  • 37 davis_toons // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    Crewe was always the place to groom and bloom youth. Why?

    There is something not right with the setup.

    What we needed is an offensive KK or someone attacking minded.. Attack..Attack and Attack.

    What have we got for the under 18? ..a defensive coach himself. Manager? A defender himself as well. That tells us something.

  • 38 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    Sell some of the fringe players and replace them with young, hungry and potentially much better players? What kind of madness is this?!

    Ashley and Pardew are trying to ruin this club! If we don’t have rubbish players at this club then nufcblog posters will probably die from withdrawal symptoms with no players to slag off!

    No Ameobi, Perch or Willo??? Nooooooo!!!

  • 39 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    big ‘IF’ Tommy…I live in hope!!!

  • 40 terencelim // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    @ToonDarnSarf, you reminded me of Ibiza a year ago when transfer window started, and he looked pretty silly and fooled and last season ended.

    I’d expect (but not hope) the same thing happens to you when next season ends.

  • 41 jamesnufc86 // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    Tony Fernandez seem like such a decent bloke , he’s excellent with his word , jealous , seems to genuinely care

  • 42 ochytoon // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    We’ve missed out on our key transfer target 🙁

  • 43 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    terencelim – I’m not expecting much this transfer window though, and the club haven’t promised much either. I’ve said it before, but this is all I expect:
    – one striker to compete with Cisse and to also be able to play with him in a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 formation
    – one attacking, young and pacey player
    – replace any of our “purples” should they leave for big money
    – replace some fringe players with young hungry players (with resale value of course)

  • 44 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    That has been the plan all along, how many of the young signings have actually progressed? Tozer, released, Zambler, released, Moyo, released, Kadar, released, Soderberg, released, Ranger, released, Hooper, released, Adjei released, Abeid, for sale, Vuckic, jury out.

    Not exactly a glowing endorsement for bringing in youth players to supplement first team squad….

  • 45 ochytoon // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    And I see I’m already late with that joke. Anyway, does anyone else just not care anymore? I’ve come to accept we won’t make waves in this transfer window and I wouldn’t be surprised if we sold a couple of top players and didn’t replace them. I’m already preparing for another season of crap football under Pardew so I’ve come to the conclusion that I just don’t care.

  • 46 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    As for all these fringe players that are leaving, I thought our squad was too small? I will be amazed if the likes of Gosling, Perch, Abeid, leave the club, unless it is free.

    All those players in my previous post were heralded as top youngsters to break into the first team. Either we don’t know how to spot talented youngsters, or we have serious issues that need remedying before bringing any more young players in.

  • 47 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    I think Newcastle need to change there whole setup.

    How they train, their coaches, the facilities…more or less everything.

    That or we might as well go back the the KK days when we dismantled the whole reserve setup!

  • 48 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    Yep, the whole set up needs looking at. Whether it will or not is a different matter. At the minute, we have a friend of Ashley as MD, we have a friend of Ashley as manager, and a friend in charge of the development squad, so….. let’s say he values their opinions,which I guess he must, then why would they tell him that they aren’t up to it and they need overhauling and replacing?

  • 49 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Anyone know anything about Joel Obi of Inter? Apparently we are interested, as are Sunderland and Inter have said he is free to leave.

  • 50 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    ochytoon…still care but yes it does p!ss me off and yes I come on here to moan and yes I’ll still drive up the A1 to watch them so I can moan all the way back down again,…but isn’t that what being a life long toon supporter is all about since we sacked Robson.

    It will change as soon as ashley sells to buy a stake in his beloved Spurs and the good times will come again…hang on in there!

  • 51 No Plain Saylor // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    Joel Obi linked with us now.. Available on the cheap and f he can stay fit he will be world class. £4m for Obi = £10m inn for tiote perhaps ??

    Also kinda mad we didnt loan Abeid out for one more season, 3 years left on his deal, low wages, im sure some championship club could have paid his wages in full, given him game time. We would then have a clearer indication of whether he has a shot, or not. In any way it’d most likely add some money to his transfer fee. Win, win i would have thought? Not the end of the world like, but I dont see the harm

  • 52 No Plain Saylor // Jun 7, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    Haha lilo 😉 same link

  • 53 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    we don’t wanna be signing iffy freebees…we need a bit of quality who can guarantee us goals…what’s the point in signing him when at least know what we’ve got with Campbell

  • 54 No Plain Saylor // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    If thats about Joel Obi.. He’s a centre midfielder ha 😉

  • 55 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Lilongwe – I agree! But I don’t completely write them off. Bigi, Campbell and Fergie have potential. Vuckic has been very unlucky, Ranger has bags of talent but is a complete idiot. And don’t forget, Carroll came through that route and we got £35M for him!!

    We know Ashley wants to focus on the youth team so they don’t have to spend so much on transfers! We just have to hope that we get one or two breaking through this year.

  • 56 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    Haha, great minds and all that. I don’t know anything about him though…

    On Abeid, they tried to loan him out the season we finished fifth, but he refused as he felt he should be challenging first team places. Poor attitude seems to be his problem going by that and some of the above assessments of his effort and willingness to graft.

  • 57 ochytoon // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    I guess you’re right but we won’t progress under Pardew and I think Ashley’s business plan will just encourage us to stagnate. I can see us being a new Stoke tbh. Mid table every season and we all know what our cup runs are like. I guess you could say I’m sick of it. This isn’t the club I fell in love with as a boy anymore and it pains me to watch the likes of Pardew, Ashley and Lambias drag her through the mud.

  • 58 Sazzer // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    Sakho afraid of Google.

  • 59 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    Football fans always seem to believe the hype about their young players. Campbell is going to be the next Owen…Chopra was going to be the next Shearer…Saylor was going to be the England centre back for a decade etc. etc.

    Our youth team wasn’t given too much attention in the Shepherd days though, he was far more interested in wasting money on marquee signings like Owen…

    We’ve been bringing over hopeful youngsters at 16, 17 and 18. I’d much rather we’re getting in 13/14 year olds and developing them all the way. But obviously that takes a long time. Look at some of the players in the Villa squad now. They’re proving themselves at 23 and some have been there for 10 years.

    Still time for some of our lads to break through.

  • 60 No Plain Saylor // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    It would be a lot easier for players to progress through the ranks from within the club if we had a clear philosophy and belief of what way to play football. Swansea hire manager after manager, all playing the same football, so not needing a big change in players, things just keep ticking along.

    Ashley needs to pick a brand of football, stick with it.
    And then only employ managers that play that way.
    The reserves, the youth teams all need to play the same football, hence if a player comes through, he’s already comfortable and knowledgeable on how the first team play.

    We have talented young lads, we always have a few.
    But Dummet and Inman should have been sent out on loan 3 years ago, Rolando Aarons should be going out now. And rather than get just 45 minutes this season, campbell should’ve been in the championship.. Its mistake after mistake, and it does cost us.

  • 61 Belfast // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    I would like Perch to stay.

    Will any of these fringe players be replaced ?
    I’m not so sure.

  • 62 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    I am not dealing with the Carroll, Fergie situation, they were here from 15/16 and younger. My list are players who signed as 17 year olds, or older, who were expected to push for the first team. It is in direct comparison to your point of us selling fringe players to replace with young hungry players. Which you, tongue in cheek, lambaste Ashley and Llambias for.

    My point is, we have regularly moved on fringe players, and none of the young hungry signings that have been made under Ashley have been a success. Bigi is the one that stands out as the exception.

    Our own youngsters, Fergie is 21/22, he will not make it here. Same with Sammi, the ship has sailed for both of them. The next crop of 17/18 year olds have a chance if we nurture and develop them properly. There is very little evidence we will do that, only hope that mistakes have been learned from.

    As I said this morning, no coincidence the only successful people out of our youth team in recent years all went out on loan as teenagers (Krul, Forster and Carroll). The only other to do that was Tav, and he went to Gateshead….

  • 63 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:11 PM


  • 64 cyprus // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    We are really interested in Obi? Read below:

  • 65 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    There is a million miles of difference to the youth setup at Villa, in comparison with ours.

    Ashley wants to bring through youngsters, but is clueless and unaided by his employees in trying to implement it. He hasn’t really brought any youngsters through, given that both Carroll and Krul made their debuts before Ashley arrived at the club.

  • 66 No Plain Saylor // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    Hahah lilo
    Great minds 😉 Yeah i know very little about him myself, he’s a big lad, strong in a challenge, good feet, powerful and he’ll run all day. But that was when I saw him, and I haven’t watched him enough to know how consistent he is.

    On Abeid, yeah a bit of petulance I suppose, but didn’t rooney and ronaldo wreck the fans heads at united at times. I know Abeid isn’t at that level and never will be, but youth and stupidity go hand in hand. He did go out on loan last season so he must have grown up a bit? Anoher season wouldn’t have cost us anything. And may even have increased the fee we’d get for him.

  • 67 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:17 PM


    Campbell stayed because we didn’t manage to get a striker in in January. If that greedy £^”&$£ Remy hadn’t decided to get relegated, maybe he could have gone out…

    I agree though, it would make sense to have a common style of play. Apparently Pardew wanted to do that by working through Cabaye, but as we all know Cabaye had a really up and down season, and with Ben Arfa injured we really didn’t have much creativity in that midfield, so we ended up bypassing it with long balls too often.

    Hopefully if Cabaye and Ben Arfa stay fit, then we can get back to playing some proper football. Would be good to have another creative option in there though.

  • 68 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    Aarons, Campbell, Streete, Satko, Mbabu all need to be out on loan next year!

  • 69 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    Interesting this!…

    Interviewed by Canal+, here is the second part of our exclusive translation of the interview, when Yohan Cabaye spoke earlier this week.

    (Interview with Gregory Novak from Canal+)

    GN “Today we hear about your departure from Newcastle, at what stage are you, is it likely, is it really likely?”

    YC “For the moment I am at Newcastle, you never know what happens in football, I am here at the moment, the season is not finished as I have still two matches (the 2 matches for les Bleus – Uruguay and Brazil), after that going on holiday can’t come soon enough to clear my head of the difficult season we have just had, and I let my agents work for me.”

    GN “Can we imagine you coming back to Ligue 1, there are 2 big clubs with a lot of money – PSG last year and Monaco this year, there is also Marseille that remains a club with French roots…could we see you back in Ligue 1?”

    YC “I have had no direct contact with anyone, maybe my agents are currently in the know. As for me, I am here, listening, I like England as well. I will need to look at the situation but you never know.”

    GN “There are changes at a big English club – Manchester United; a change in manager, a change in players, we know it’s a club and a challenge that could interest you?”

    YC “Yes of course, I like this club for a long time, I like what they do, the boss has left but they have appointed a very good successor, and he did some very good things with Everton. They are always well placed amongst the big clubs, yes for sure it could be an interesting challenge but like I said for the moment, there is nothing concrete and I am still at Newcastle.”

  • 70 scout // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    I can not believe they won’t sign Carroll, 20 million profit, massive risk getting an overseas striker in.
    Is it really the wages, why not come out and say we’ve offered the lad a deal, if he doesn’t sign it’s the cash?

  • 71 toon kk // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Unfortunately we are destined to be a mid table club at best. How can we become any better with our owner and poor manager? Remember our players arnt worth a great deal especially after the season we’ve just had. I don’t know what the five year plan supposed to be? (Luck). But all we can do is support our great football club.

  • 72 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Lol, Rooney Ronaldo and Abeid…. The difference is Rooney and Ronaldo were big players at their previous clubs. Abeid hadn’t really done anything other than youth and second team levels. Abeid free, Ronaldo 10 mill, Rooney c. 20 mill

  • 73 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Lilongwe – I don’t necessarily agree that the boat has sailed on Fergie and Sammy, though I do think that this is the make or break season for them. I couldn’t say why they weren’t out on loan 2/3 years ago, but I would imagine it’s because Pardew felt that the were needed for the first team. We need a big enough squad so that we don’t waste our young players by sitting on benches for 2 seasons.

  • 74 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    here’s the five year plan as was!


  • 75 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    Lilongwe – I agree again. Mistakes have made with the youth set up. Apparently Ashley has invested money into this area, but what are his staff doing to make it a success? That’s got to be on his agenda to correct.

  • 76 No Plain Saylor // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    Yeah definately lilo,
    I sincerly hope they do, but somehow i doubt it..

    Thats another thing i despise pardew for, you cant play through cabaye or ben arfa.. Because all your apponent has to do is mark those two out of the game and what you’ve got 9 lads not knowing what to do..

    I think we cann all agree Barcelona have a slightly better eleven than us? 😉
    Yet its selfless talent working together.
    When a team has a star man they are much much easier to stop, to stop Tottenham, all you have to do is take Bale out. They all look for him, every time they’re in possession. Whereas it’d be much harder to play against a team, of which nobody is deemed ‘the star’ , everybody knows their role, and does it.

    I expressed it horribly I know but I think you know what I mean 😉

  • 77 scout // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Cabaye nailing his colours to the mast! Nice one mate, what a joke.
    Hasn’t exactly set the world on fire, get someone in who wants to know, If his attitude has filtered through the dressing room I blame that for the gutless performances.
    First of all a senior pro in the middle of the park who bangs heads together when things aren’t going well.

  • 78 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    lilongwe and TDS…you’re talking like sensible people but we don’t have sensible people people running the club so you’re wasting your time hypothesising about the stuff you are…agenda’s and strategy are words of more than one syllable so not often used in the NUFC boardroom

  • 79 No Plain Saylor // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    Valbiena in the shop window supposedly.

  • 80 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    It is nothing to do with Pardew, when we were in the Championship under Hughton we refused to loan out some of the kids, Newton, Donaldson, etc. They were 17/18 at the time, nowhere near the first team, but it wasn’t policy, so they stayed, rotted in the reserves and youths, and the end outcome is they never progress. Sammi was too poor to get in the Boro side for the last few games of his spell there, not even making the bench for 2 of them. Fergie did okay, nothing to suggest he is a Prem player, give him back to Clarky and take Redmond instead, already a better player and just 18.

    Having Beardsley overseeing them after 18 doesn’t help us, him being good friends with Mike even more unhelpful. Chances of a shake up while Beardsley has his hand on the development tiller is very unlikely.

  • 81 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    nps…beautifully explained and bang on the money!

  • 82 No Plain Saylor // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Lilo the point was that petulance and arrogance is in a lot of footballers when they’re young, you just have to go with it.
    It was a bad example but the point is that can’t be why they’d get rid of him, he refused to go out on loan two years ago, he went out on loan last season, at least thats a sign of maturity. Im sure he’s getting used to england, probably got a good grasp of the laungage now too. Anyway its not the end of the world.

    In other news Crystal Palace are gettin yerman Balde, the portuguese striker we were linked with, for £2.6m

  • 83 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:31 PM


    Many excellent clubs have a playmaker. For Barca it’s Iniesta and/or Xavi. Their skill is to find space and to control the game. That is what Cabaye did so well for us in the 11/12 season. Tiote would break up the opposition’s attack, find Cabaye in space, who could then take time to play the next ball to a roaming Ben Arfa, another midfielder or forward for Ba to hold up or have a run on goal.

    You just can’t mark players like that out of the game, because they are excellent at finding the space and using it. They don’t always have to make incisive passes to put a player through on goal, their job is to set up the attack for others.

    While players have to watch Cabaye of course, they should be more concerned about our full backs making a run for Cabaye to find for example.

    Ben Arfa is different. He is a player that can be marked out of a game if the marker is good enough. But he’s also a player you want to give the ball to because he scares the opposition. He can do things that can’t be defended against and if he can take 2 or 3 defenders out of the game, then that opens up areas for others too.

  • 84 scout // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    Where do you lads think we would finish with no strikers or departures with pardew in charge for the full season?

  • 85 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    The thing is, that year he decided not to go could well be the telling part of his failure to develop. Sitting on the bench, or playing reserves is no benefit to him at that stage. Had he gone on loan he most likely would have kicked on. Loadsof players are petulant and lack maturity, but the ones who make it are the ones who also put the graft in and do what aids their development.

  • 86 No Plain Saylor // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Thanks Sparky 🙂

  • 87 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    sparky – Ashley is a massively successful businessman with an incredible attention to detail. We know he’s clever, ambitious and ruthless. You have to give him credit for that. One problem is that he didn’t know much about football, so he’s made some cock ups when he thought he was doing the right thing.

    Why the hell did he bring KK back??? He did it because he thought that would make him a hero to the fans. I don’t want an owner who listens to the fans that much to be honest, because if the average fan could make decisions without being properly informed about the finances etc., then we’d be bankrupt within a season!

  • 88 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    depends on a lot but if no ins or outs and we don’t have a injury list like last year 8th 9th or 10th at best.
    1st Man Shitty
    2nd Chelsea – mourhino gets the sac for not winning
    3rd Arsenal
    4th Spuds
    5th Man Utd again depends on new manager and signings don’t think they have the best squad just Fergie got the best.
    6th Liverpool
    7th Everton
    then pick anyone

  • 89 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    TDS…you take me far too seriously…I’m on here for light relief and to see what people are thinking…I know ashley’s a bright boy but looking at the way he runs our club you wouldn’t think so would you!

  • 90 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Lilongwe – not every player that makes it has to go out on loan though.

    The focus in the Championship was to get promoted, the focus last season was to stay in the PL. Hopefully this season we can accept that our squad is big enough and we don’t need many of these youngsters, so they can go out on loan.

    At the beginning of last season, we needed many of them. Although they were mostly crap…

  • 91 No Plain Saylor // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    Yes lots of teams have a playmaker, and one or two on the bench as well, I understand the role and what said player is meant to do. But my point is a footballing philosophy should never be centered around one player, you buy players around that player to suit, play to his strenghts, none of that should ever happen.

    He could get hit by a bus tomorrow, or worse hand in a transfer request.
    All eleven players are of equal importance, and you can’t build a great team without everyone out there pulling they’re weight. I understand come match day there might be a few things you’d look for Cabaye or Benny to do. But you wouldn’t base your football around them, what if they have an off day?

    Lilo, Very true, and that season spent doing nothing for Abeid, is very like the season just gone by for Campbell, I really hope last season we didnt let him down. I hope we send out 10 lads on loan this year.

  • 92 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    scout…marginally better than last year…mebees 12th

  • 93 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    sparky – sorry mate, very hard to tell on an online forum!

    I agree, he’s made some dumbass choices, but I’m not sure he’s made as many as the previous owner!

  • 94 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    12th because it’s a case of having a poor manager with a good squad

  • 95 No Plain Saylor // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Anyway lads, like the girls always tell me
    It didnt last long but it was a pleasure 😉
    See ya’s

  • 96 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    TDS…no worries…the written word is notoriously troublesome depending on the mindset of whoever’s reading it.

    i blame the boogie too!

  • 97 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    NPS – Spurs have done alright this season going through Bale, Arsenal were fantastic using Fabregas as their playmaker. Chelsea normally have 2 players out of Hazard/Mata/Oscar to create the chances.

    I don’t see anything wrong with Cabaye controlling the play, as long as we’ve got Ben Arfa to do some amazing things once in a while, Debuchy/Santon bombing down the wing, Cisse holding up the ball a bit better, and Goofy/Sissoko/Marveaux chipping in with goals and assists too.

    Cabaye can help dictate our style of play, as long as we have other plans if he’s struggling.

  • 98 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    sparky – yep! And there’s the beauty of the odd 🙂 or 😉 I suppose! Plus it’s much easier when you know someone a little too.

    Talking of football related songs…when was the last time a team released one? I think someone should re-write that whole song for our lot to sing!

  • 99 Belfast // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    I think we’ll struggle to make the top ten.

    Probably 12th/13th.

    Well get loads of injuries like we always do & Pardew will bang on about the injury crisis again.

  • 100 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    TDS…yet to work out how send a wink or smile…does me head in but can’t do it!! lol

  • 101 Belfast // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    The injury thing happens every single season.

    For what it’s worth the injuries we had when Roeder was in charge was worse in my opinion.

  • 102 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM


    Just type these characters in order

    for 🙂


    for 😉


    for 🙁

    There might be others, but I haven’t experimented that far…

  • 103 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM


  • 104 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    see what I mean…that was supposed to be smiley face!

  • 105 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:54 PM


  • 106 WesJameson // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    Not the worst player in the world, could do a job for our squad? For me, he is an upgrade on Guthrie minimum

  • 107 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    get in the bag! got a smiley on the blog…there’s no stopping me now! 🙂

  • 108 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    sparky :-O

    I only learned these because I refused to type “LOL”!

  • 109 scout // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Man U 5th they absolutely pi..ed it this year, not a hope in hell they’ll be 5th, personally think they’ll walk it again 11/5 a great price aswell would be 5/4 with SAF in charge

  • 110 Tommyy // Jun 7, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    I think with Pardew and the customary injuries, 13th – 16th. Of
    Course it’s hard to tell now without the transfer window finished, but it sure looks like all the other teams we should be competing with, and even the ones below are looking to really strengthen and have a go. Whereas we don’t.

  • 111 Mister Tuff // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    I would have thought that there might have been a few posts on the blog from the pro Percy Brigade (Jam tomorrow brigade) condemning the dangerous policies
    employed by Man U, Man City and Chelsea in recent days – in respect of changing managers. Do these clubs not know that changing a manager is a dangerous policy
    with no gaurentees of winning anything and which could lead to instability.
    I wonder why we haven’t heard much from them -might be that they know the recent arguments profferred on here about stability were to say the least a bit vacuous.

  • 112 croftus5678 // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    hairdryer was bought in for the dev squad also and i pretty much think he’s cemented a 1st team place.
    santon again is still only young ! (only class him if you are talking about chelsea/liv/arsenal/manc/manu ect youngsters that they buy for millions and shove into youth teams or loan out)

  • 113 Belfast // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Mister Tuff // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    Stability they scream !!

    All about the stability.

  • 114 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    Mister Tuff…you don’t appear much on this blog but when you do it’s always quality! well said 🙂

    please note the smiley face…just learnt how to do it!

  • 115 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    and don’t forget…Pardew’s a winner just like the rest of those managers…just ask Colo!

  • 116 Belfast // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    I’ve a funny feeling this stability lark will be out the window next season. If we’re rubbish again.

  • 117 Newcastle Brown Alien // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    wes, I think a nota, was the improvement on guthrie, unfortunately he was also an improvement on tiote but due to pardew’s blindness he never got a game

  • 118 Newcastle Brown Alien // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    *anita, my typing has turned to poo

  • 119 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Anita will be involved a lot more next year cos Cabaye won’t be here…and to be honest I’m not too bothered…Anita is a class act and he’ll be a very able replacement that won’t cost any money

  • 120 Belfast // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    He’s not going to get a move to Man Utd like lol

    He’s on the wind up if he thinks he’s going there.

    When Anita actually had a run of games last season, he effected the game more than Cabaye does in my opinion.

    He was our best player at one point.
    Then the tactical genius dropped him for some reason.

  • 121 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    didn’t drop him…he just played him out of position like most of the rest of the team…just a shame that new position was the bench!

  • 122 Black and White with an army lol // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    3 players we should build around on


    for me these 3 are the real talent at Newcastle

  • 123 OhSholaAmeobi // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    My sources tell me Perch won’t be going anywhere.
    But they tell me Abeid, Amalfitano, Obertan, Inman, Newton will be.

  • 124 toon kk // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    Expect more of the same next season scrapping around in the bottom half. How’s it going to change?

  • 125 Black and White with an army lol // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    AP must place Santon on the wing he’s built for that position

  • 126 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    b&w…where wud you play Santon?

    Just for the record I would include Mbiwa and Marv on your list as well…the rest of them are all negotiable in my book

  • 127 Black and White with an army lol // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    toon kk

    i think we will improve our league position this season( 15th ) 😉

  • 128 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    beat me to it! 🙁

  • 129 Black and White with an army lol // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:31 PM


    both wings mate, he can cross & cut inside, good pace and ball control the only thing he lacks in is defense so it wuld be better to push him up.

    also mate i would include MYM & Marv but for MYM only if Colo stays and for Marv hopefully he works on his fitness so he can play a full 90 minutes

  • 130 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    agreed…Santons much better as a winger for sure

  • 131 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Sorry, had to nip out. Not everyone who makes it has to go out on loan, no. But it increases there chances, unless as I said, you are an exceptional talent, Giggs, Wilshere, Fabregas, Owen, Rooney – But generally you play firstteam at 17.

    The fact the focus in the championship was fine, and staying in the prem was a focus, but that is short sighted, and if people back support Ashleys view for the club, then he isn’t taking that short termist view. Therefore the failure to loan or develop these players is firmly placed on the club.

    Anyway, we shall see. Once again, as with so much at the club at the minute, we can only hope lessons have been learned!

    Campbell has to go out on loan, as do some of the others, unless we decide to do what Villa have done this year, and effectively put it down as a bedding in season and not worry too much where we finish as long as we stay up. In which case, lets go get Dale Jennings from Bayern, Powell from Man U, Clayton from Crewe, Hughes from Derby and Ince from Blackpool. Say bugger next year, we are looking to have these players develop and grow as a unit over the next few years.

    Anyway, off out for the day now, footy match, and then end of season bash. Enjoy.

  • 132 toon kk // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    We’ll probably get the excuses the fit again players are like new signings, we haven’t as many games etc etc. Just hope they see sence and strenthen. Just think we have more hoof ball to look forward to next season with Pards!!!!! Or well! !!!

  • 133 Mister Tuff // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    Just after Sissoko arrived I checked out a few blogs trying to find out what to expect. There seemed to be a bit of a consensus from Toulouse fans that He played good and then disappointed on a bit of a regular basis -good/bad/good/ bad. After seeing the bloke play he clearly is a powerhouse. His game against Chelsea was excellent -raw power unleashed. However, it became apparent to me in his subsequent games he seemed to be used in a role of chasing down the ball from one side of the pitch to the other – and then becoming knackered. I think careful consideration needs to be exercised as how best to play him otherwise what he offers will be wasted.

  • 134 NUFC_LEAZES END // Jun 7, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    Players that are useless for us and therefore should leave


    These players are all fcuking s**t

  • 135 2_goal_tino // Jun 7, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    If there’s one young player we should be pursuing this window it is Marco van Ginkel. 20 years old nearly played 100 games for Vitesse. Scores regularly, can head and shoot from distance. Capped by the Netherlands last year. Apparently vitesse want 8 million, which for a player that would already get in our team and has the potential to be one of the best CM/CAM’s in the world is nothing.

  • 136 sparky55 // Jun 7, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    Mister Tuff…No doubt Sissoko NOT a No 10…he’s played most of his life as a defensive midfielder and that’s exactly where he should be played replacing Tiote.

    Anita and Sissoko will make a good pairing and both can defend as well as attack so they can do that in turns rather than Sissoko doing it all time and running himself into the ground.

    Sissoko tried to do it all on his own last year…he needs to learn how to pick a pass rather than do it all himself.

    He has the makings of being a great player and needs to concentrate on his job rather than being all things to all men.

    Sissoko for captain

  • 137 HullMag6 // Jun 7, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    Debuchy Santon
    M’Biwa Coloccini

    Anita Sissoko
    Ben Arfa Gouffran

    Elliot, Saylor, Raylor, Haidara, Jonas, Marveaux and Cisse.

    On that basis we only need AC and newer/better fringe/development players.

    If all fit – not bad if I say so myself, tiote could fogure but I feel he is the most expendable in the current squad of so called purples.

  • 138 scout // Jun 7, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    Post 134
    You should be the manager or the prime minister either or

  • 139 scout // Jun 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    Offer Carroll 60 grand a week see how much he wants the return

  • 140 Slank // Jun 7, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    More to the ever growing list of departees. There can’t be too many left now who are actually staying.

    Tiote (wants to stay)
    Ben Arfa

    Pardew (for Sparky55)

  • 141 Dulcinea // Jun 7, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    Would hate to see James Perch be sold – i think he’s quality. Yeah sure he’s not a world beater but he does the job that nobody seems to appreciate that needs to be done and he does it well. Maybe if he was called Jamese Perchose he’d be appreciated better. Another case of a non fancy name english man not getting teh credit he deserves. He’s honest and gives 150% whenever he’s needed. Something which can’t be said of some others who are more valued and talked about.

    Furthermore i think this is just BS and and a waste of an article. If Pardew plays this guy ahead of the quality Anita do you really think he’s gunna sell him?

  • 142 toonluvva // Jun 7, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    Here’s an interesting thought for you.

    We clean out all of the fringe players.

    Krul, Cabaye, Hatem & Cisse are also sold on.

    Then Llambias fails to get anyone “over the line.”

    It’s the stuff of nightmares!

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