Why Alan Pardew Must Talk To Newcastle Fans


Newcastle had a very good season in Alan Pardew’s first full  term on Tyneside and finished 5th top of the league, but then last season we had a very bad season and finished 5th bottom.

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Alan Pardew – will he meet with the fans?

And it seems a number of Newcastle fans have formed the opinion that Alan Pardew is simply not good enough to be the  Newcastle manager, and that Newcastle are not playing the type of football they want to see.

It’s always dangerous when a Newcastle manager loses the support of the fans, and the last good example of that was with Sam Allardyce, who didn’t do too bad in his seven months or so at Newcastle, but the fans turned against him, and he was fired by Mike Ashley in early January and Kevin Keegan took over.

Alan Pardew has said he wants to speak to the Newcastle fans, and maybe some of the topics to discuss could be the following – as an example:

1) What’s his ambition as to where Newcastle will finish next season, and in the next two or three years

2) What are Newcastle’s transfer targets this summer, in terms of positions being looked at, and he doesn’t need to mention specific targets by name – which he will not

3) What type of football does he want Newcastle to play and why did we play the long ball so much last season

4) questions etc

Whoever represents the fans in this meeting have to be civil, xalm and controlled, and there cannot be the stuff that we were told went on when fans first met with Derek LLambias during the relegation season.

Apparently during that meeting one fan made a foul-mouthed outburst at Llambias shortly into that meeting – and that was hardly good.

Newcastle fans may be annoyed at what happened last season, but meeting with the manager has to be a civil and controlled meeting based on football topics only.

And Alan Pardew would be well advised to hold one of these meetings when he returns to Newcastle (next week?), because it will help him gain some additional support from the Newcastle fan base – which could be vital for him.

Communication  is always a good thing, and there cannot be too much of it – especially in tough times.

What do you think?

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94 comments so far

  • jimmysmith

    Jun 7, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Comment #1

    Is it a good idea to talk openly about goals and plans only to risk being mercilessly derided and ridiculed or taken advantage of.

    I’d like to have a clearer picture of what’s going on but more importantly perhaps so would our counterparts and adversaries, and also he needs to manage the fairly wild and passionate expectations of the fans to frankly avoid dogs abuse or worse.

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  • SuperShearer

    Jun 7, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    Comment #2

    Why? You don’t see any other managers talking to the fans. Their job is to manage the club, if you start telling the fans what you’re doing your rivals know and half the game is up.

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  • Knight of St James Park

    Jun 7, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    Comment #3

    Pardew’s tactical decisions are so bizarre you have to ask the guy WHY!!!

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  • Tommyy

    Jun 7, 2013 at 11:59 PM

    Comment #4

    He doesn’t have to talk, he just has to explain why we couldn’t play football last season despite a few injuries, and also as to why the preparation was so poor in preseason (as Cabaye alluded to).

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  • spitfire_

    Jun 8, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    Comment #5

    Why Pardew should NOT talk to newcastle fans…

    1. Nobody trust him anymore.
    2. He lie… a lot… a lot lot… a loooooooooooooot.

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  • toon22

    Jun 8, 2013 at 12:07 AM

    Comment #6

    He wont as we all see his mouth is so full of shite it isnt going to smell too good.

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  • toon22

    Jun 8, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    Comment #7

    pre season

    we have all ready missed the boat,our pre season is about dissapointment and embarrassment

    Its there for all to see

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  • Ginger

    Jun 8, 2013 at 12:16 AM

    Comment #8

    Half of the fans will dismiss anything he says before it actually leaves his mouth

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  • jimmysmith

    Jun 8, 2013 at 12:19 AM

    Comment #9

    Pards does make you cringe sometimes listening to some of the inane drivel he comes out with, but why should he let all and sundry know our business. Prefer it if he didn’t speak at all, which is less than ideal, but better than what we’re given.

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  • gonufc (not Arf' bad)

    Jun 8, 2013 at 12:50 AM

    Comment #10

    @Ginger – do you not think there’s a valid reason for that though? I would certainly listen to what he said but I cannot blame those who do disregard it.

    The amount of times he has said things like “we should be signing 2 very high quality players by the end of the week” or similiar is ridiculous. It of course never comes to fruition.

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  • Thump

    Jun 8, 2013 at 2:07 AM

    Comment #11

    I’m afraid of what the answer may be for questions etc.

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  • p

    Jun 8, 2013 at 4:35 AM

    Comment #12

    Laudrup for the toon

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  • cyprus

    Jun 8, 2013 at 6:25 AM

    Comment #13

    I see where this is going with posts and I tend to agree. He has answered q.1 (W. Brom level!), q.2 will be answered shortly, q.3 he has claimed he wants carpet football though I’m not sure it is coached enough in training or if the players can do it. All the talking needs to be done on the pitch.

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  • expatmag

    Jun 8, 2013 at 6:39 AM

    Comment #14

    Hi guys. I am new posting on here but I have been rerading Eds blog for a couple of years now. I am from Melbourne Australiabut originally from Low Fell in Gateshead.

    On the subject of Pardew, it is clear that he is here for the short termat least and hopefully,he will have learned from last seasons experience from pre season to season end.

    Whilst I dont believe he is the most honest manager we hae ever had or the most able, our oly choice os to support him or the benefit of the team.

    I was watching the season review from when we finished 5th and the one thing that struck me was how settled the team was especially at the start and end of the season. The team was confident and played good football in a side that included williamson, raylor, perch and obertan.

    I am pretty certain we can achieve a top 6 position again next season provided the following can be achieved:

    1. We manage to stay relatively injury free compared to last serason.

    2. A good pre season with all our players in camp together similar to the irish camp Hughton sourced. Several games against reasonable opposition.

    3. Keep all our major players together without the sale pf any purples. The january signings should assimilate well without added pressure conditions and by keeping everyone together, comraderie would improve.

    4. The addition to the squad of a forward, a winger and a central defender to the squad early in the window allowing them time to assimilate and settle in the club and area.

    5.. Get some coaching help for Pardew icluding a specialist in tactical awareness and defensive coordination.

    6. Arrange loans for the kids with decent quality clubs with recalls included in the deals.

    7. Retain Colo at all costs and ensure fringe players such as Willo, Marveuax, etc confidence is maintained.

    8. Keep communication lines to the supporters open at all times with honmest and up to dte info on the state of the club.

    I dont think any of these targets above are not achievable given the correct organisation and behoind the scenes teamwork available within the club.

    With the new tv revenue, I dont think there is any need for the club to spend anymore than say 25 million on players. If we could get a qualit winger lioke Mertens, a centre back like Sakho and a forward like Gameiro, we will have a top 6 squad available.

    Pardew must concenrate on defensive organisation and simple back to basics pass, move, close down and get the players tuned into simple possession based football with a lpt of emphasise on finding space and movement off the ball. The players on our squad are more than capable.

    My apologies for this long winded first post but this is really how I see things for the club.Despite much of the doom and gloom on here, much of it is based on supposition rather than actual facts without contrbuting factors.

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  • Charlietoon

    Jun 8, 2013 at 7:06 AM

    Comment #15

    As much as we hate it at this time of yeaar the less said the better. We are in business mode trying to get the best price we can for players. No time for fan news right now enjoy it when it comes in the form of transfers at a good price because we didn’t go on the local news saying we NEEDED a forward , a cb etc

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  • expatmag

    Jun 8, 2013 at 7:15 AM

    Comment #16

    Charlie

    Agreed. It is cat and mouse games out there and I think the majority of supporters look back on the january incomings where we signed 6 players in 6 days as surprising and invigorating.

    However, it doesnt stop media sources coming up with names especially when it is clear what positions need to be strengthen, what our budget is for players and which players are avaiklable within that budget.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Jun 8, 2013 at 7:27 AM

    Comment #17

    Whatever he says, simply cannot be believed. The only thing which can be relied upon is what we see see unfold on the pitch. That is where the results of training and coaching can be seen.

    He can say whatever he wants and talk up whatever he thinks people want to hear, because that’s all he’ll do. Yet, some individuals are getting sucked in by it.

    I was looking for corrections to be made week after week to the poor performances in the previous game. These didn’t occur. That’s all I need to know about what he can and can’t do. The basic things, before additional players can mask his inability to manage.

    A lot of quotes from managers and players are pre-prepared, planned responses for the media. His silver tounge is in full flow in interviews. Blatant lies come out his mouth to what I see on the pitch. I cringe when I have to hear him talk his rubbish.

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  • Dennis Twice

    Jun 8, 2013 at 7:28 AM

    Comment #18

    Newcastle must attack! Attack, attack, Toon attack

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Jun 8, 2013 at 7:32 AM

    Comment #19

    Charlietoon
    Your post is the most sensible post on hear for a while – nothing happening at the moment so the rumours etc., seem to be blown out of proportion. Just have to get to July 1st when things start to happen

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jun 8, 2013 at 7:39 AM

    Comment #20

    People talk about Mike Ashley being our best ever owner, now without mentioning the Halls or Shepherd can anybody defend the actions of last summer, not the failure to sign anybody but the blatant lies that surrounded the whole fiasco, firstlyin April Pards tells us that four or five quality players will be signed, we then persue Debuchy, Douglas and De Jong which drags on all summer and results in nothing, then a few months later comes the startling revelation that it was carefully planned not to buy as we had enough in the squad so if we thought we had enough why were we seemingly trying to sign those players us fans thought we despeately needed, I think it had a lot to do with season ticket sales and lying to us was the only way to shift them.

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  • Patoon

    Jun 8, 2013 at 7:39 AM

    Comment #21

    Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Agree, think they’ve learned form wot happened with remy, keeping everything quiet until the deals r signed, sealed and delivered, can’t really fault MA, think he’s done a good job at stabilising the club but stil think AP is a rubbish manager

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  • geordiefromthemidlands

    Jun 8, 2013 at 7:46 AM

    Comment #22

    Re the thread on preparation and cabayes interview. We did commit to the viacom tournament for preseason in South Africa and the organisers cancelled at the last minute, so we had to hastily reorganise something. It all adds up.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jun 8, 2013 at 7:47 AM

    Comment #23

    Patoon,
    There is no denying that financially Mashley has sorted us out but I’d hardly call four relegation battles and every unwanted PL stat in the six years he’s been here exactly stabalising the club.

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  • Dannyo

    Jun 8, 2013 at 7:49 AM

    Comment #24

    I can’t agree with this Ed, Alan has nothing more to say due to the following:

    1. If he wants to build his rep again he needs results on the pitch and better football.
    2. If he did talk, he’s in a no-win situation
    3. He has said what his transfer targets are; Defenders with arial threat and strikers to give him more options.
    4. He has said he wants better ball retention in his style of play (that means more of a passing game)
    5. He has many times said he wants the club to compete and break into the top 4 and win cup(s)

    There you go, sorted it.

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  • geordiefromthemidlands

    Jun 8, 2013 at 7:50 AM

    Comment #25

    Laudrup has a 10m release clause inserted into his contract after the extension he signed in March. Last year we went back to being open on our signings and it didn’t work hence so most probably doing this under cover.

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  • Dannyo

    Jun 8, 2013 at 7:50 AM

    Comment #26

    And to add, leave the man to be on his bloody holiday, he’s the man in the EPL with the most pressure concerning his job right now.
    Let him catch his breath at least for goodness sake.

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  • expatmag

    Jun 8, 2013 at 7:51 AM

    Comment #27

    I dont think he is a rubbish manager but more of a limited manager in his tactical awareness.

    His interviews are more like “towing the party line” and bei, ng the mouthpiece for the clubs administration, he more often than not comes across as untruthful and lacking in awareness all round.

    However, without the backing of the clubs owner, a severely depleted squad, lack of quality signings, additional european fixtures and a woeful season long injury list all had major impacts on both hos and the teams performance last season.

    Like Pardew or not, he did guide the club to 5th position and received two manager of the year accolades from his peers and the media two seasons ago.

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  • proudtobageordie

    Jun 8, 2013 at 7:53 AM

    Comment #28

    Jail

    Give Ashley credit for the financial side of the club. We are probabley in the best position we have been in for many years financially and stable, but that is as far as it goes for now untill he proves otherwise.IMO you can not run a football club the way he does if you are ambicious and want the best for the club and its fans ie champions league and cups. For that you need marquee players on big wages and that is never going to happen to our club as long as ashley owns it.

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  • Dannyo

    Jun 8, 2013 at 7:55 AM

    Comment #29

    @proudtobageordie
    Yes you can bring success with the way we’re running the club.
    Arsenal is our model, and I’d say they’ve had their success.
    They’ve not signed marquee players in the same way, they’ve made em.

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  • proudtobageordie

    Jun 8, 2013 at 7:57 AM

    Comment #30

    Dannyo

    Well said mate. We just have to wait to see what happens in the first 3/4 games of the new season and we will know what sort of season to look forward to

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  • jimmysmith

    Jun 8, 2013 at 8:00 AM

    Comment #31

    I think Ashley has stabilised the club financially while at the same time a very handy group of players has been put together, but he`s at a crossroads and he needs to forge ahead or risk undoing what`s been achieved.

    We`ve already seen the side go backwards over the course of a season and he needs to bring in some quality to freshen up the team and add the required depth and balance to the squad.

    If he can get them in cheap great, but he has to deliver regardless or this side will likely be picked apart by better placed teams willing to match our better players ambitions.

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  • expatmag

    Jun 8, 2013 at 8:00 AM

    Comment #32

    Proud

    You are spot on there. It is difficult to assume ambition for a club who are unable to compete with the clubs who have the financial muscle to buy the worlds best and compete on a higher plain due to this.

    That is why I dont think it will be long before a european super league will come into being and the EPL will lose the likes of Chelsea, City, United and Arsenal, especially when FFP proves to be a spectacular failure in a few years time.

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  • proudtobageordie

    Jun 8, 2013 at 8:00 AM

    Comment #33

    Dannyo

    Maybe but the differance in class is vast and there wage structure is way higher. They have players on 100k + a week so there is a big differance plus they have Wenger who have we got?

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  • Dannyo

    Jun 8, 2013 at 8:02 AM

    Comment #34

    @proudtobageordie
    Yeah, but let’s be realistic. There is a chance that Pards could turn it around, we can’t deny that, none of us can predict the future.
    But if he doesn’t, MA needs to get sorted on his managerial candidates, cause I’ve not been overly impressed by his appointment so far.

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  • Dannyo

    Jun 8, 2013 at 8:04 AM

    Comment #35

    @proudtobageordie
    Yeah, but they started somewhere too mate. I’d say their wage structure has gone a little overboard though.
    They sell players for £20-30M but the owners says there’s not much to spend.
    A huuuuge chunk of that is going to wages imo, this is where we can do it right, and build gradually.

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  • proudtobageordie

    Jun 8, 2013 at 8:06 AM

    Comment #36

    Dannyo

    Agree with you and ive been saying that all post season.Its just your point of arsenal being our model which i dissagree with as we are a million miles away from them at the moment.

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  • Dannyo

    Jun 8, 2013 at 8:08 AM

    Comment #37

    @proudtobageordie
    They can be a model, that doesn’t mean we’re successfull in the same way, yet. It needs time and the right manager.
    The two only things that NUFC fans hate more than anything else 😛

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  • proudtobageordie

    Jun 8, 2013 at 8:09 AM

    Comment #38

    Dannyo

    We seem to be going backwards and not forwards as they are? Be truthfull and can you see us matching arsenal within 2/3 years with the regime in charge at the moment. We are the Poundland of the Premiere league

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  • lesh

    Jun 8, 2013 at 8:11 AM

    Comment #39

    I think the level of interest in a Pardew forum summed up by the fact that after some eight hours the proposal’s only attracted 30 + responses!

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  • jimmysmith

    Jun 8, 2013 at 8:11 AM

    Comment #40

    Arsenal may well be our busines model, but they sure as sh@t aren`t our football model, as far as I can tell.

    No way would Arsenal go into a such a big season so underdone and unprepared, or willing to play such rudimentary football.

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