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Demba Ba To Leave Chelsea This Summer – Newcastle Interested?

11:39 am, Sunday, June 9th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 305 Comments

News today in the Mirror that Demba Ba’s Chelsea career could be over, as Jose Mourinho gets ready for his second stint managing the London club.

demba ba - broken nose

This is what happened when Demba Ba returned to Newcastle

We had reported last week that a Chelsea Blog had thought that with Mourinho becoming the new manager, Demba Ba would be allowed to leave this summer, and the blog had suggested he could even make a “sensational” return to Newcastle – that would be some story.

And Ba has not severed ties with Newcastle, a club he still admires, and he’s still a favorite with the Newcastle fans.

Before the game against QPR last mont,h Demba Ba visited with the Newcastle team, and seemed pleased to get himself re-acquainted with the Newcastle players and the coaching staff, where he was a big favorite.

There’s no doubt Demba Ba enjoyed his short stay on Tyneside, scoring 29 goals in 58 appearances for the Magpies, and he was great in a black and white shirt – no doubt about that.

The news is that Mourinho is after strikers, and will sell Fernando Torres if they can attract world-class strikers to Chelsea – and Demba Ba is very likely to leave this summer.

This will be more good news for his agents, who are always willing to make big bucks off their client, and if he moves it will be Demba Ba’s fourth move in two and a half years and they have made big money off the Senegal striker.

Ba has played for 1899 Hoffenheim, West Ham, Newcastle and Chelsea since January of 2011.

Chelsea will also ­listen to offers for Ba, after he signed for just £7M from Newcastle in January, due to that release clause, and there will be a lot of interest in him from England clubs and the continent.

Liverpool and Paris Saint-Germain would be interested, but we think there is very little chance that he would return to Newcastle, because he could get a much bigger wage elsewhere and would probably want European football.

It would be a good story – a great story – if we could get him back on Tyneside, but it’s not going to happen, and he never played well with Papiss Cisse either.

For he record Demba Ba scored six goals in 22 appearances for Chelsea.

What do you think?

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Tags: Demba Ba · Newcastle News · Papiss Cisse · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target





305 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Ben3arfa // Jun 9, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    Really depressing being linked to all these former toon strikers.

    Looks like its going to be one stale summer of transfers for us

  • 2 Indian Magpie // Jun 9, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    I would not have him. He is a RAT

  • 3 spitfire_ // Jun 9, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    NO! If the pr!cks who rule club still have some dignity he should not come back.

  • 4 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    Are we seriously that hard up for transfer targets that we’re just going to sign players who used to play for us?

    Well I guess under this current regime that this lack of ambition and scraping the bottom of the barrel will be the norm.

  • 5 mattnufc // Jun 9, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    A rat for going to a better club for more money? If he wasn’t born in Newcastle, any footballer would do the same.

  • 6 Greebol1892 // Jun 9, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    yes, along with Carroll, let’s get him and we can play Andy Carroll and the no.23 up front in the middle as part of a 4-2-2-2 with Ba and Cisse out wide.

    And why not try and buy back Lovenkrands and Best as well. And Kuqi and Xisco, and Ranger…….

    We should be moving FORWARDS and looking ahead…. why go backwards?!??????? Unless you’re Peter Beardsley of course.

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  • 8 Belfast // Jun 9, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    I would take him back no problem, but it will never happen. He’ll have better offers than us sadly.

    And any one of our so called top players would all f*** off to Chelsea if they had the chance. So you can hardly blame him for leaving.

  • 9 magicbus // Jun 9, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    We can`t afford him simple as

  • 10 Rotonda heights // Jun 9, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    mourinho or pardew hmmm…..

  • 11 Belfast // Jun 9, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Can’t really see him being to keen on leaving Chelsea to be honest. Think Torres will leave if anybody does.

    Actually fancy Chelsea for the title next season.

  • 12 Sav // Jun 9, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Agree with mattnufc, although I doubt we’ll match his Chelski wage packet.
    For me, the only mercenaries are the ones who come, get paid and don’t put in the effort in training or on the pitch. Ba always gave his best.

  • 13 Jail for Ashley // Jun 9, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    He’s on a contract meaning a guaranteed 70/80 K or what ever it is he doesn’t have to go anywhere and he won’t unless they match that wage.

  • 14 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    I liked Ba alot cracking player imo but he shouldn’t come back unless Cisse is pushing for a move, didn’t work well enough together and we aren’t a big enough club to have one of them happy on the bench

    We need some quality to come through though I doubt it will be established players, relatively unknown lads who are excelling in poor teams but not catching the eye.

    I doubt there will be much from France or Holland tbh I am expecting Beligum to be our main scouting…if we are really after some solid investment

  • 15 toon kk // Jun 9, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    The thing is we desperately need a top striker, Ba would never come back. Why would he? Just hope we get some quality in. But I think it will be another dog fight for us at the wrong end of the table next season. How can it change with a penny pinching owner and a poor manager who relies on luck.?

  • 16 welshgeordie9 // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    Have we been linked with gervinho

  • 17 Newcastle for alltid // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    I wonder why it’s automatically assumed that he’d be likely to join us if Chelsea were to sell him. Clubs with more money would come in. Especially Russian and Turkish teams would be on alert and able to offer him wages more on par with what he earns in Chelsea.

  • 18 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    I’m thinking we won’t see too many bodies through the door. I reckon we’ll only see 3 players signed.

    This wouldn’t be an unmitigated disaster as long as we sign them for in the right positions.

    If we signed 2 wingers and another striker I think we’d be in a decent position going forward as long as these players were proper first team players and not development players.

  • 19 Jail for Ashley // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    WW…,
    Bang on there pal we weren’t even big enough to have the 3M Leon Best wasted on the bench.

  • 20 welshgeordie9 // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    If we can keep all of our best players I think we only need to sign 3 players.

    Defender
    Winger
    Forward

    Anybody Disagree

  • 21 Cisse's Big Toe // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    i would say 4, a winger a striker a cb and a further striker/winger

  • 22 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    If we keep all our best players, why would we be in need of another defender?

  • 23 Norlinsen // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    What do you guys think about the u21 Norwegian team? Anyone we should be looking at?

  • 24 Novocastrian66 // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    I think we need another right back, with Raylor injured and Simpson on his way.
    I would like to see two strikers in and more competition on the left hand side of midfield. Of course I’m assuming none of our top players leave.
    Out; Simpson, Shola, Obertan.

  • 25 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    I disagree. I think we need to keep our best players and sign at least 6 first team players. If Coloccini stays we need 1 CB, 1 winger, 1 attacking midfielder and 2/3 strikers. We only have Cisse up front which isn’t enough.

  • 26 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    We’ll have Anita, Santon, Debuchy and Haidara who can play at full-back. I don’t think we need to strengthen there. We definitely need more attacking options. We can’t expect to change games bringing Ameobi on. We need players like Remy, Bony, Benteke, Siem De Jong etc.

  • 27 HullMag6 // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    On the what if cisse went. Ba and AC upfront -why not both good on ground and hoofball coupled to an attacking midfield it would work and defenders would pap themselves faced with them 2.

  • 28 Big Pappa Cissé // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    I agree at a minimum we need a striker,winger and CB provided nobody significant leaves.

    Top 3 striker choices:

    1.Hernandez
    2. Doumbia
    3. Remy

    Top 3 Winger choices:

    1. Mertens
    2. Sinclair
    3. Marin

    Top 3 Centre back choices

    1. Alderwireld
    2. Sakho
    3. Semih Kaya

    Then clear out the dead wood and bring in some youngsters. Kerim Frei from Fulham would be a good choice.

  • 29 Jail for Ashley // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    What ever happens in regards to signings I won’t be getting wound up if nobody comes in like I did last summer,I simply will stop spending my money on the club.

  • 30 sparky55 // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    No way he’s coming back here…we were a stepping stone and he’s moved on never to return…he’s already tasted the owners ambition at Newcastle and it’s no where near high enough for the likes of players as good as Ba.

    It was nice having him…no we move onwards and backwards depending on the mood of Ashley.

    Carroll on his way to provide for Cisse…4-4-2 formation unfortunately which means we get overrun in midfield every game we play just like last year…Can’t wait!

  • 31 Newcastle for alltid // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    Norlinsen

    Being from Norway myself I know most of these players fairly well. They play very well together as a team, each playing their part. As individuals not too many of them would make the grade at Newcastle at the moment.

    The best of them right now are probably the ones that we had on the bench who played the senior game against Albania on Friday; Haavard Nordtveit who is a good prospect in DM for Monchengladbach. King, who is injured a lot – didn’t make the grade at Man utd but very good on a good day. Henriksen, who has been instrumental in a poor season for AZ Alkmaar. And also Valon Berisha who has had a good season at Red Bull Salzburg. Nordtveit would all-in-all be the player most ready for the EPL IMO, in an anchor role.

    As for the ones that were on the field I think our defenders – Semb Berge, Strandberg and Rogne – are fairly good. Rogne is in the out in the cold in Celtic it seems. As for the other two, Strandberg is a leader, and a player that could be very good in the future.

    In the center of midfield we have some good passers of the ball – Eikrem, Johansen, Singh and Konradsen. They are, however, not yet complete players and would struggle in the EPL. But with some good coaching, I could see Eikrem and Johansen develop well.

    But the one with the most potential would be the LW Jo Inge Berget. We have been linked with him before, and he’s got a lot of smartness in the box. He tried to make the grade in Udinese, but was too young back then. I believe that he could be a decent aquisition for the right amount of money.

    In the very end it’s hard to say. A lot of the players have tried their luck abroad, but failed. I think it’s due to the fact that they’ve left too early. They do well in the Norwegian Premiership and U21-football, but would need a lot of coaching and time to be Newcastle players. None of them has got a distinct, individual X-factor. If we were to get some of them for a low amount, I would have to say go for either Nordtveit, Berget, Eikrem or Strandberg.

  • 32 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    Kets, interesting as always.

    We don’t need another CB if we keep Colo, but we could be doing with another RB, but Tav could be ready to be backup next season.

  • 33 sparky55 // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    Big Papa Cisse…why on earth would any of the players on your list come to newcastle???…they’re all proven quality players who’s next move is a very important one for their careers…what have we got offer players of their quality???

  • 34 potski // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    Why an extra CB? We got an extra one in January, no-one left when MYM came in.

    Unfortunately we never got to see a Colo/MYM partnership, because Colo was playing fine with Taylor when MYM arrived. He got games in Europe but didn’t start in PL until Colo injured his back. When Colo returned MYM was pushed out to LB to cover the problems there.

    I think they could be awesome together, with Debuchy and Santon alongside them. This is one area where the owner can rightly point out they brought signings forward that would otherwise have taken place now. I for one am looking forward to seeing our “new” backline in operation (assuming Colo stays).

  • 35 Big Pappa Cissé // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    @ sparky

    Tell that to Cabaye,Sissoko,M’biwa,Debuchy & Cisse. All internationals and very talented.

    I wouldn’t say the likes of Remy or Mertens were definite no’s . You never know until you put an offer on the table.

  • 36 lesh // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    Worry not ye pessimists.

    We’ll be bringing in some top-drawer players and they’ll be in in time to start pre-season training with their new teammates before joining them for a few friendlies in Portugal and Spain!

    Just have faith in Derek L, he’s got everything organised for a successful start to the new season.

  • 37 Big Pappa Cissé // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    I still think we need another CB. Streete is probably another couple of seasons away from the first team so that leaves us with M’biwa,Collo,Taylor and Willo .

    Both Taylor & Collo are injury prone and Williamson doesn’t deserve to be in our strting 11. Perch can play there but he is a bit lightweight.

  • 38 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    Sparky

    As deflated as some might be about the way the football club is being run on and off the pitch let’s not exaggerate.

    We’re a massive club in one of the best leagues in the world. We have a massive passionate fanbase and a huge stadium packed week in week out.

    We offer “competitive” wages, more than most of those players will be making in other leagues, especially in Holland, France and Belgium.

    A team full of international stars to play alongside.

    I would say we can offer a great deal to a lot of players.

  • 39 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    BPC

    Willo as a 4th choice CB is a decent shout. We don’t need 5 CBs, especially given that Perch can play there.

    The urgent priority is wingers and strikers, not defenders.

  • 40 sparky55 // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    BPC..I admire your optimism but IMO our stock isn’t trading that high at the minute.

    granted if we sacked Pardew we might have a chance but with dufus at the helm and they way he had us playing last year, we’d have next to no chance of attracting players like that…mebees sinclair but the rest will have better offers from better placed teams with more progressive managers for sure.

    Pardew is the cancerous ingredient..he has to go before we attract good players again

  • 41 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    Also think it’s a bit harsh to claim that Colo is injury prone except for this season he has played more than 30 league games in every season he has played for us, and Taylor played 25 league games this season, and we have to assume he will play even more next season.

  • 42 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    Actually we shouldn’t assume he’ll play even more next season, if Colo is staying I would have him on the bench behind MYM and Colo, but you get the jist of what I am saying haha

  • 43 Big Pappa Cissé // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    @ Ruddy

    Yeah he is not to bad a s 4th choice, I just think we could let him go and bring in a future prospect on a lower wage and let him get a game every so often rather than having Willo at the club.

  • 44 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Sparky

    If that’s the case then how did we manage to attract Sissoko, Cabaye, Debuchy, Cisse, Tiote, Santon, M’biwa to the club?

  • 45 Cisse's Big Toe // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    i love henriksen hes an absolute beast

  • 46 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Scratch Tiote but the rest of the list stands…I’ll get my coat shall I?

  • 47 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    BPC

    We already have future prospects coming through in this position, if we were going to let Willo go then why should we not have Streete as a 4th choice CB?

    Caulker was getting PL game time at Swansea when he was about 20 years old, so surely we could have him in the squad.

  • 48 Cisse's Big Toe // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    mainly we need forward options, like the board said quality over quantity, if we got valbuena/bojan/gervinho and an out and out striker like bony i would be happy

    cb i would still like to see another as im sure colo will be leaving

  • 49 sparky55 // Jun 9, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    RUDDY…I agree we have a lot to offer to certain players…but the players BPC is talking about are already proven players…not players looking for a stepping stone to even greater things.

    We were lucky to get Cabaye and he turned out great and he got us most of the other french players as well…but Cabaye is going and what does that say to potential targets???….and not only Cabs by the way…we’ll lose a minimum of three purples this year which says a lot from a footballing perspective.

    this summer will bend up being a squad rebuilding exercise…not a squad improvement exercise…mark my words

  • 50 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    Sparky

    Mertens has only ever played in the Eredevisie, so I wouldn’t class him proven.

    Sinclair is bound to be angling for another move to another PL club given the signing of Navas and surely he would see us as an attractive option.

    Sakho has the same kind of reputation as Mbiwa had when he signed for us, but bigger clubs could be interested in him.

    Mirin is a young star, but would still see our club as a step up in terms of quality, as well as seeing the PL as a great opportunity.

    Alderwireld would probably not come to us but other than him I don’t see what is so unrealistic about those targets.

  • 51 sparky55 // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    ruddy @ 44

    in the order you listed

    Sissoko…because of Cabaye
    Cabaye…he was ready for the next step in his career and we sold him a dream which has subsequently turned sour
    Debuchy…Cabs bessy mate sold him the dream in a season where we finished 5th…now look at us
    Cisse…we were 5th when we bought him…we’re now 5th bottom
    Tiote…he was a good player in a dutch team punching above it’s weight and at the time the right kind of move for him…so yes we did well there.
    Santon…out of no-where that one…but he wasn’t getting a game under the special one was he…he wanted first team football and that’s what we gave him.
    Mbiwa…thank Cabs…bet he couldn’t / wouldn’t talk them into the same move now

  • 52 tatehowe // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    so who thinks we should still buy young British players lol
    glad that happened now it finally proves our youngers in England aint as good as the media like to think!
    their always banging on about the next best thing well you wont find them here all about the players from abroad

  • 53 Big Pappa Cissé // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    @ Sparky

    You need to look at NUFC as a target would.

    Huge fan-base
    Great Stadium
    Playing in the Premier League
    Huge new money deal
    Worldwide coverage
    Potential team mates: Krul,M’biwa,Collo,Debuchy,HBA,Sissoko,
    Cabaye & Cisse

    I am not being biased but other than the established clubs like Man U, City, Chelsea, Arsenal,Spurs,Liverpool & Everton we are probably the best option.

  • 54 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Ruddy
    Caulker has had 3 loan spells to get onto spurs bench
    Remy streete hasn’t even been on loan yet, he is miles away from being bought into the squad, the reserve league is a joke and is no way to judge how a player is developing

  • 55 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Sparky

    So we bought these players purely because of Cabaye?

    Think you’re drastically underselling our club and I must admit that while I don’t agree with Pards or Ashley’s way of doing things both on and off the pitch I still believe this club is brilliant.

    I just don’t share your low opinion of this great club.

  • 56 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    Tads

    I’d rather see him on loan, and as such meaning I’d rather we kept Willo on as 4th choice CB, he’s a decent shout to have there and we can move him on in a year or two, and by that stage I’d like to see Streete making moves to be ready for the first team.

    Was originally making the point that we don’t need a new CB if Colo stays though,

  • 57 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    To be fair dubuchy looks no better than simo

  • 58 sparky55 // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    BPC…my devils advocate view on a footballers perspective of newcastle

    5th Bottom
    shIt manager
    sh!t route 1 football
    manager with no track record and who is favourite for first to get the sack this year.
    no european football
    big wages
    big stadium
    best fans in the world
    wonder why the top players are leaving
    No ambition shown from the owner
    only 37% win rate
    lots of disgruntled players
    LOOKS A BIT DODGY…shall I wait to see who leaves before i make a decision

  • 59 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Ruddy
    Disagree
    Don’t think we need a new CB if we are happy to sit mid table, but for me willo is ok back up purely and I just don’t see the hype in the injury and error prone overweight Taylor, I’d upgrade him with a youngster promising youngster who’s already done the loan thing and is looking to make a mark

  • 60 sparky55 // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    and just for record Ruddy…I DON’T HAVE A LOW OPINION OF MY GREAT CLUB…HOW FCUKING DARE YOU…I have a realistic outlook on the way my great club is currently being ran by a bunch of wide boys and how at this moment in time we don’t have a great deal to offer quality proven players.

  • 61 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    Sparky

    Calm down lad, if you can’t have a rational reasoned discussion then maybe you shouldn’t be here.

    Actually on second thoughts this is exactly the place for you.

    If you cannot see how attractive an option we would be for countless players around the globe then I am sorry, you do have a low opinion of our club, you may feel it is a realistic opinion, still doesn’t change it from being a low one.

  • 62 sparky55 // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    Countless players yes…proven quality players…not at this moment in time

  • 63 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    Sparky

    My issue is that the players that you claim we couldn’t attract are not actually proven players at the highest level.

  • 64 sparky55 // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    in that case we agree on everything but what we each consider a quality proven player :-)

  • 65 Tsunki // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    It only takes a coaching staff rejig and a few decent players to have a decent season and turn us into a top proposition again.

  • 66 sparky55 // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    I’ve just lit the barby so can’t continue the conversation…but mertens is quality proven belgian international who is scoring for fun in Holland…his sights will be set much higher that we can currently offer him.

    Sack pardew and the whole ball game changes…but that’s another topic of conversation

  • 67 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    Sparky

    I disagree. Scoring goals for fun in Holland is like shooting fish in a barrel, it’s a defensively pathetic league.

    I don’t think you’re being realistic, just pessimistic.

  • 68 Rotonda heights // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    if we had a manager players would be flocking

  • 69 kevymartins // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    The great gatsby song is epic

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_1aF54DO60

  • 70 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    No one cares.

  • 71 kevymartins // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    And ”ruddy” the one who thinks he is better than everyone because he can speak a little irish andd what not like eamon mcconvey the co*k is still on here every day like a right pathetic faggot

    Peace out lads

  • 72 potski // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    Sparky

    Not even all of the people on this blog agree with you about the owner/manager, so why would someone playing in the Dutch league? Does anyone outside of our fans give a damn about the naming rights for the stadium, what happened to KK, whether Pardue was negative in his substitutions which cost us the game against Reading, what background Lambias has in business, whether Jonas should or should not play every game, did Ashley formerly support Spurs, ….

    Every team has fans who think they can could do a better job than the current manager/owner. I think players with any sense would see beyond that.

    Put it this way, if you were offered a new job, with a well known multi-national company on more money, would you refuse it because of someone on a blog saying your new manager is cancerous?

  • 73 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Adios Kevy! There’s a little Spanish for you too.

    And I think you need to revisit what quotation marks are supposed to be used for. Understandable, but not an entirely forgiveable mistake.

    Don’t think I’m better than anyone, but you do make a good argument to the contrary by being an idiot.

  • 74 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    Hows about strike force of the old boys Ba and Carroll

  • 75 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    We will sign
    Carroll
    ba
    Enrique
    Nolan
    Barton
    Given
    Lee Clarke
    Supermac

  • 76 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    Charlie in the Gallowgate

    No thanks.

  • 77 kevymartins // Jun 9, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    @Ruddy as the other irish fellas said at the first sight of violence in castlereagh or somewhere and you would sh*t in your pants…People have found you out they know your most likely a 5ft pip squeek acting big man on the blog but wouldn’t know what to do or how to react in reality in the real world and not over the internet…

  • 78 Big Pappa Cissé // Jun 9, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    Ba & Carroll up front ? , no thanks. We play bad enough as it is under Pardew and some people want two big men up front, why I don’t know. What team that has won any major title lately has played with that system ? . Answer, no one.

  • 79 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jun 9, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    ruddy
    just an idea

  • 80 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    Kevin

    Wouldn’t know what to do in real life? In what situation? You’re being very general, please do specify.

  • 81 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    Charlie

    We’d be better off trying to sign a pacey powerful forward who can run off the shoulder. A Hernandez type player. Although I wouldn’t mind if we signed a striker who is capable of good hold up play, think it’s an important part of the game.

  • 82 Novocastrian66 // Jun 9, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    Can someone enlighten me on what the rules are regarding a player being allowed to play for three different clubs in twelve month?
    I thought a player could not play for more than two clubs, in that case Chelsea would be stuck with Ba until January.

  • 83 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    Novo

    I’m pretty sure it’s 3 clubs in one season, not 12 months.

  • 84 proudtobageordie // Jun 9, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    Novo

    its only over a season ie aug-may

  • 85 Novocastrian66 // Jun 9, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    Cheers lads.

  • 86 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    BPC
    We ain’t gonna win the title, but a ba and Carroll combo would be class compared to cisse and an offside flag

  • 87 potski // Jun 9, 2013 at 3:35 PM

    scout

    Did you know Cisse was ruled offside 37 times in 31 games? That’s only just over one per game.

    And about 5 of them he scored from and replays showed the officials wrongly ruled him offside.

    Change the “Cisse always offside” record, it’s getting boring.

  • 88 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    Potski
    Yeah and of that stat there were only 2 other players who were offside more, it’s not good enough
    And in Europe that stat was 2.2 offsides per game

  • 89 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 9, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    Haha, we have 8 players that can play right back. Santon, Debuchy, Perch, Raylor and Anita are natural right-backs.

  • 90 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    BPC
    Manure won the title switching between a 442 and a 4231 no reason 2 upfront can’t work, tbf shola had one of his best seasons partnering Ba just because Ba and Cisse didn’t work doesn’t mean 2 upfront won’t
    Personally would love to see Ba come back, much much more than Carroll
    But neither will come back, Ba got dogs abuse for leaving (showing some ambition) and MA simply won’t offer the going rate in wages for a top CF the blokes only on the same as colocini!
    As for Carroll he’s demanding around £100k a week off west ham so anyone thinking he’d drop to £40 odd to join the toon are dreaming

  • 91 sirtoongospel // Jun 9, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    potski, absolutely bang on. The offside thing is getting beyond tedious. As you say, offside only half the amount of times Benteke was, and several of those were wrong. Papiss scored 20 goals legitimately last season, with 3 months on the right wing and in a poor team. We won’t get a better goal scorer than him.

  • 92 Laurent Robert 32 // Jun 9, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    What isn’t good enough is the lack of supporting players to help Cisse, nevermind overlapping players. Lack of quality service is atrocious at times. Pardew is happy to panic defend for a lot of the time, so how can the lad be given chances throughout the game.

    Cisse’s runs can be very good but if the ball is released too late he’s caught in no-mans land.

  • 93 Cisse's Big Toe // Jun 9, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    fed up of people slating cisse, he does his job just get some quality around him, valbuena/gervinho/bojan should do it

  • 94 potski // Jun 9, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    TADS
    The figure is probably higher in Europe because of poorer officials. There was one game he put the ball in the back of the net twice that were wrongly ruled offside.

    So you really think that one offside per game is enough to get rid of Cisse? Especially when some if these are because our midfield don’t release the ball quick enough. This is his game, trying to get in behind the last man. I want him to keep trying to do it, and I accept that sometimes the defenders will get the line right, step up and catch him offside, or at least convince the male assistant refs that he was offside.

  • 95 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    Potski
    Show me where I said get rid of him
    I said it wasn’t good enough, none of the squad have been this season, would you seriously not have him work on improving that part of his game or just let him keep doing it?

    CBT
    How would bojan, a CF that’s failed to establish himself at every club he’s played at help improve cisse’s game? Or gervinho who’s struggled to get into an average arsenal squad? Or another CAM?
    Surely some actual wingers who can actually cross should be what we’re looking for?

  • 96 Big Pappa Cissé // Jun 9, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    Tads

    I’m not saying 4-4-2 doesn’t work, I was saying to play with two target men up front is pointless and that is why hardly anyone does it appart from Stoke.

    We already played the most long balls in the league last season without a big man up front. The ball would never be out of the air with Ba & Carroll here under Pardew.

  • 97 potski // Jun 9, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    Tads. Sorry, scout and others did. While I want Cisse to improve his hold-up play, I have no real concerns about him getting offside. It’s something that happens with forwards who try to beat the offside trap. Some they win, some they don’t. It’s like saying midfield players should not get any yellow cards – they can’t make tackles without giving some fouls away. As long as the ball is there to be won, yellows don’t turn into reds very often, and they are not in and around the box, then I just accept its part and parcel of the game.

  • 98 AH // Jun 9, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    Wonder if Cisse will leave because of the Wonga deal or because of all the slating he gets from fans . The fact is he has a proven goal scoring record and one average season in a team that struggled does not turn him into a poor player . The lads needs crosses and good through balls to get on the end of , he gets that he scores goals . Last season he had no help what so ever .

  • 99 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    BPC
    Lol fair enough mate! Yeah they would spend the whole game just heading it to each other ;)

    Potski
    Yeah it’s all part and parcel when trying to beat the trap but mate there were a good few of his offsides where he was actually looking across the line and was a good 2-3 yards offside, for me that is not good enough, that’s complacent, fair enough if your just offside trying to beat a run but getting caught like that for a professional isn’t up to the standard he should be playing at, maybe like a few others he knows he’s undroppable because there’s simply no one else and he’d improve if he actually had some competition

  • 100 Ginger // Jun 9, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Why do people want Gervinho?

    He’s god awful.

  • 101 Jail for Ashley // Jun 9, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    Ginger,
    Because he can speak Klingon.

  • 102 Novocastrian66 // Jun 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Cisse definitely ploughed a lone furrow last season. We played too deep and at times it was embarrassing. We need to play 20 yards further up the pitch to give Cisse the service and support he needs. He is a goal scorer no doubt.

  • 103 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    Ginger
    Agreed!!

    JFA
    Lol!
    Do you think his head band is attached to a tent peg somewhere to stop him floating away?
    Garuntee if we signed him Ashley would have sports direct printed on his forehead and float him above the stadium on match day!

  • 104 bills-son // Jun 9, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    Imo we need a LB – Santon isn’t one and I’m not sure Haidara is ready for the Prem – we need a CH even if Colo stays – I’d sell Williamson – we need good winger who can track back – and we need two forwards, one of whom has to be able to lead the line and hold the ball up.

    That’s a minimum of five players to add to the current squad – in addition to Williamson I’d sell Oba, Gosling and Shola. I’d also take £10M for Santon and £15 for Cisse as long they were replaced in addition to the five players above.

    If we sign one or two players only I’ll be honouring my vow to withdraw my support for Ashley.

  • 105 colwell // Jun 9, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    I’d love Demba back much better than Cisse if we can sign Carroll even better.

    Lets face it Pards hasn’t a clue when it comes to tactics and our coaches don’t seem to be helping with the keep ball play either.
    So why not have the players that can actually play in the awful tactics we use surely this makes sense?

  • 106 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    Bills son
    Disagree on santon, the lad us still very young for an established FB and still has plenty of time to mature into his position, people seem to be ready to get shot already, look at baines ( not comparing the playing styles) was at least 24 25 when he looked the business I think santon will come good, he had a poor second half of the season last season but since he’s signed he’s been one of our brightest youngster and most consistent performer
    Also not sold on haidara yet, a couple of good games doesn’t mean he’s ready to replace a starting FB

  • 107 Joe Blog // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    Mourinho signed Drogba, he likes that type of athletic, powerhouse spearheading attacks, Ba is the closest they have to that, ergo Ba stays and can see him being an important payer for them and given more responsibility; in any case he’d never come back here for a litany of reasons.

  • 108 colwell // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    Joe blog-
    They have Lukaku as their Drogba style player and he isn’t going out on loan this season.

  • 109 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    Would rather us go for Lukaku than either Carroll or Ba and if Mata is up for sale the Lukaku is certainly as well

  • 110 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    Joe blog
    Errrrrrr lukaku?

  • 111 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    WWYCD
    Lukaku done an interview saying he won’t be going back on loan this season after having productive discussions with mourinho over his role with Chelsea this season
    The lads going nowhere think chelski have big big plans for that lad

  • 112 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    toonarmydownsouth
    Chelsea never have big plans for anyone they buy what’s good now they don’t built for the future

    Lukaku will sit on the bench behind whoever they buy this season and either Torres or Ba (or both) and come Jan he will go on loan imo…what’s worse is he probably won’t care all that much considering the money he’ll be on

  • 113 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    YO
    Maybe either way we ain’t got a chance of getting him, they will want over £20 mil for the lad and he’ll be on big wages!
    But personally I can see him over taking Torres and Ba at Chelsea this season and playing second fiddle to cavani

  • 114 Novocastrian66 // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    Completely off subject, the cricket today has been excellent.

  • 115 Barras // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    ~WWYCD

    Chelsea do have big plans for Lukaku. That is why they watched him play for Anderlecht from when he was around 15 years old and then eventually bought him when the time was right.

    Chelsea will sell Torres this summer and they may sign Cavani. Mourinho will frequently juggle Demba Ba and Lukaku around next year, and if they sign Cavani, then they will juggle all 3 during the Premier League and the Champions League.

    I think Demba Ba is going to score more goals during next season than he has ever scored in any previous seasons.

  • 116 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    toonarmydownsouth
    20mill for a striker? If only we were in the PL the richest league in the world haha I know mate we have no chance if getting him but why shouldn’t we be trying to get him?

    I don’t think he will get past Torres tbh he is the butt of some jokes but he’s still a very good striker and Ba is a very good striker as well.i guess we will see

  • 117 Barras // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:28 PM

    Perch
    Gosling
    Obertan
    Ameobi

    Sakho
    Will Hughes
    Siem de Jong

  • 118 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    Barras
    We will see

  • 119 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    Yo
    Why shouldn’t we be trying? No reason at all mate
    Why aren’t we trying? MA…….

  • 120 Indian Magpie // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    What a goal By Georginho Wjinaldum

  • 121 Indian Magpie // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    Islamic Banking lends money free on interest – Yes
    Banks charge Interest
    Wonga charge interest Higher rate

    So would cisse have had a problem with a bank too.

    Assuming he has a prob now

  • 122 toon kk // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    Its best not to have high hopes and expectations when it comes to transfers or much else when it comes to it being a New c fan, we’re always getting let down. Our whole future of success will have to rely on luck. Sad!

  • 123 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    Indian magpie
    Didn’t stop him wearing the virgin money shirt, or northern rock
    Complete non story

  • 124 Big Pappa Cissé // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    The pure hypocrisy of a footballer complaining about money ethics is garbage considering the money they earn.

  • 125 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    Some of his offsides are down to pure laziness, literally 2 or 3 yards offside. That there is no excuse for, why compare the offsides to other people?
    If he only scored 4 goals all season, would that be alright if the top scorer only had 5??
    Think about it…..

  • 126 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    toonarmydownsouth
    Haha true tbh if we get 5+ relatively unknown talents that are quality additions I am as happy as if we get 5+ big named signings problem is I don’t see either option happening

  • 127 Joe Blog // Jun 9, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    Ha! You think Lukaku is going to be preferred to Ba? Walters.

  • 128 potski // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    scout
    “Some of his offsides” so how many during the whole season? He played most of the PL games. One every two games, or three? Or more?

    What sometimes happens us the forward sees the pass is on and he starts a run, mid doesn’t anticipate it, forward stops run and defence step up so he is now 2-3 yards off, mid eventually plays the pass. Who’s fault is that? Cisse, our midfield, their defence, the manager, Ashley, or the Prophet Mohammed?

  • 129 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    Potski
    Have you been watching the full monty today?

  • 130 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    Potski
    As said earlier offsides are part of the game but several he has been looking across the line whilst being 2-3 yards offside, with plenty of time to get back onside, those offside are either laziness or complacency eitherway it’s part of his game that’s needs hammering out of him and there’s no need for it, you can’t blame the midfield to completely absolve cisse, it’s a terrible argument!
    It’s not his fault it’s the other 10 players on the pitch!!!
    Embarrassingly the team didn’t hamper ba becoming our top scorer for the season…….

    Yo
    Yeah same mate, but can’t seeing us making many signings, were pretty close to the squad size limit now and players like fergie ameobi tav etc will no longer count as youth players, so either very little coming in or a big clear out to be had before signings coming in

  • 131 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    Potski

    Woah, down with that sort of thing…

    Careful now.

  • 132 geordiesteve520 // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    Surely his on,y way off playing, if he moves is to come back. FIFA rules state you can only play for two different teams per calendar year.

  • 133 geordiesteve520 // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    Btw Ruddy, loving the Father Ted reference.

  • 134 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    Geordiesteve

    Nope. It’s a season, not a year

  • 135 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    Geordie steve

    I liked it myself, just watched Fr Ted last night, bloody love it haha

  • 136 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    I’ve nothing against Cisse he just seems ineffective up top on his own. We need wingers left and right, also 2 strikers better than Shola. It won’t take much let’s be honest

  • 137 potski // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    BPC

    There is no hypocrisy – footballers earn the money from their talent and effort. Wonga prey on the poor and weak. Their rates of interest are an offence to all fair minded people, and are illegal in many countries and some states in the US. I would like to see them driven out of business.

    And yes, there is a huge difference between Virgin Money and Wonga – look at the interest rates they charge!!

  • 138 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    No thanks to Ba coming back.

    On Cisse, until I see some quotes i’ll presume it’s not that big a problem.

  • 139 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    Apparently us and Marseille are back in for Gervinho.

    At least they are taking this winger problem more seriously.

  • 140 Tsunki // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    DRINK! – it seems a few of you have been on it today ha ha :)

  • 141 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    Potski
    It doesn’t matter what the difference in the interest rates are its still goes against Islamic beliefs so if he genuinely is refusing then its very hypocritical and a BS excuse to force a move

  • 142 Ginger // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    I think we need another striker and two wingers.

    Shola, Cisse, Gouffran and new striker competing for the striker roll.

    Two new wingers, Ferguson and Ben Arfa competing for the winger roll.

    Lets be honest, Guttierez needs to be converted to a CM if kept this season.

  • 143 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    Tsunki
    Hmmmmm
    that would be an ecumenical matter!

  • 144 Ginger // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    Or we could get another full back and then convert Santon into a winger.

  • 145 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    toonarmydownsouth
    Tbh the squad size limit may be nearly full but there is a lot of average players in there with plenty room to remove if needed and our transfer policy is buy young so why not splash our budget on youngsters around the 18-20 mark? 1 striker above that and the rest spent on pillaging the Beligian league or Dutch league?

  • 146 Tsunki // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    Wonga v Morality again? Wonderful.

    Cisse might use it an excuse but lending is lending at any rate just like stealing a pencil or a car is still stealing. Islam looks at the principle not so much the gravity.

  • 147 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    Is Cisse still angry about Wonga?

    They are a joke of a company but all they did was exploit a niche in the market: desperate people who didn’t manage their finances properly.

  • 148 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    Potski
    Agree 100% with the wo..a comments, I’d never be a walking billboard for this lot, the comments from them about taking down the SD signage were cringeworthy.
    Recycling money from people who are really struggling because wages haven’t gone up and everything else. I know people say that you know the interest rate when you sign up, but sadly for many it’s the only viable option

  • 149 Tsunki // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    Ginger man no – santon is not a winger.

  • 150 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:31 PM

    Ginger

    I dont see Fergie competing with Hatem anytime soon.

    Like others I saw that Fergie had a decent crossing boot on him but it’s still widely inconsistent, and he isn’t nearly as dynamic as Hatem.

  • 151 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    Wonga provide a service. They make it clear how much it will cost and they don’t hide the fact that they are a short term loan company.

    If you go to the bank and can’t get a loan there is a reason for that.

    If you are using Wonga as a long term finance solution then more fool you.

    Would I rather they were not our sponsor? Of course, but let’s not use it as yet another rod to whip the club and stick to football can we?

  • 152 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    Interest rates mean nothing it’s the fundamental idea that the religion is against if Cisse suddenly has an issue with it then he needs to explain why Virgin is except from his issues imo

    But having said that I am not religious and I’d much rather we didn’t have to discuss any religion on here its about football not beliefs for me

  • 153 Big Pappa Cissé // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    @ Potski

    I mean it in the way you can’t justify footballers pay for what they do, just like Wonga can’t justify their ludicrous interest rates for loans.

    If I ran the country people in the armed forces would be on that sort of wage for risking their lives, not for kicking a ball around for 90 minutes a week regardless of how much we love it. But that’s not how the world works and I understand that. So should Cisse

  • 154 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    Post 143 brilliant, can’t stop laughing

  • 155 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    Yo
    Would love to see that but tbh ash has made areet f up of sorting the youth academy and was already supposed to sign a whole new batch on youngsters after releasing a load and was also supposed to upgrade the academy
    So when there not involved with the first team they will stagnate in the youth
    Tbh the first signing we should make is someone with footballing knowledge to replace that t1t dekka!!!

  • 156 JackButler // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    Demba Ba to come back to NUFC???

    Whats he coming back too? As it seems we are selling everyone if reports are to be believed

  • 157 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    Toondownsouth
    Agreed, think that’s where QPR went wrong really, badly advised on signings

  • 158 Tsunki // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    Yo – nobody wants to bring religion in mate its just a relevant point re cisse and the supposition he would object to wonga. We all know really that its newspaper tripe formulated from a crap idea for a tale.

  • 159 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    toonarmydownsouth
    Agreed mate, the plan was to get NUFC building an academy and bringing through players but we are a club that needed a complete rebuild to do that which as yet hasn’t happened imo

  • 160 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    Tsunki
    Santon is built for being a winger. He started as one when he was younger.

  • 161 lesh // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    Are some of you still labouring on about the Daily Mail’s speculative and recycled story? There’s a danger that if this persists it will become an issue!

  • 162 Tsunki // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    89Norcal thats as maybe but show me the proof from the last two seasons and I will go along with it.

  • 163 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:42 PM

    Tsunki
    Aye true mate hopefully it will get sorted out soon (or denied) and we can all move on, I never feel all that comfortable when such subjects are discussed too many buttons easily pressed

  • 164 Ginger // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    Tsunki

    Why not? He has the dribbling skills, decent cross and shot, the one time he played there he scored… I see no reason why he couldn’t.

    15089Norcal

    It depends on which Hatem we’re going to see. If it’s the one from the beginning of last season, then sure I agree. But if it’s the one from the end of last season then who knows. Whilst Shane has been out getting crucial first team experience, Hatem has been gaining wait.

    And since Hatem plays on the right and Fergie plays on the left, Fergie would be more competition for the left winger. I think he’ll make it as a squad player for us.

  • 165 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    Would anyone care to hazard a guess who our first signing will be? My prediction is the reading CD, he will do nicely to simmer a few expectations

  • 166 proudtobageordie // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    Scout

    Gervinhio unfortunatley

  • 167 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:48 PM

    Yo
    Agreed
    Religion has no place on a football blog, it’s a quick way for things to turn nasty!!
    Yeah the whole club needs renovating the whole way through, the board the academy the coaches, the medical team the whole works!!!
    For me the biggest issue that needs addressing immediately is the fitness levels of the squad we seem to have a 60 minute team!
    Yes we haven’t got Europe next season but surely that should be an incentive to assualt one of the domestic cups rather than thinking thank god we’ve got shot of that burden!!!

  • 168 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    Tsunki
    He had 1 goal and 2 assists which is nothing spectacular…but it’s more than our current winger in Jonas and it’s coming from the LB position.

    He’s got great dribbling and crossing ability. I’ve seen him cut inside a few full backs either to open space for a shot or send a cross in. Actually if it wasn’t for Santon Jonas would have finished 0 goals/0 assists, remember the Chelsea game.

    He just needs to be stationed higher. I think we should sitll buy a winger but as a last resort – convert Santon to LW or RW already.

  • 169 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    What’s Pardew thinking with Gerviho???
    He will get his heed on something I guess

  • 170 Ginger // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:50 PM

    scout

    It’s a hard decision, because there is no evidence we’ve been linked with anyone aside from what Torqtoon says.

    If I had to guess, I’d agree on it probably being the Reading CB. Pearce I think he’s called.

    Sadly Gervinho seems to make sense, he has ‘premier league experience’, is a winger, is young and we we’re previously linked with him.

  • 171 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    Ginger
    Yes but Hatem has had all those niggling injuries to stall him. When he’s fit we all know he’s our best player by a distance, save for Cisse on form.

    I like Fergie in that he seems more old school – Sprint down the wing to beat the fullbacks and crosses in the box. I wish he could get a loan spell for 1st team action.

  • 172 JackButler // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    Gervinhio???

    For the love of God NO!!!

    How much do Ashley and Pardew hate us if this is the type of player we are after

  • 173 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    The Gervinho story is regarding an inquiry not an offer.

    Apparently he’s priced for something like 8-9m, which is less than alot of the continental targets we’ve been linked to.

  • 174 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    If we turned down gervinho once apparantly for having a poor attitude why would we back in for him??
    Especially as he has been p1ss poor for his whole arsenal career

  • 175 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:55 PM

    tads
    Coz he’s cheaper :D

    And he used to play for Lille, so now we’ll have a former LOSC player in every part of the pitch, kind of like a collection

  • 176 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    toonarmydownsouth
    Fitness is a mess atm but we played a lot of games and when ur up against it it’s often harder to push urself harder next season planning for one game a week, having more rest days and not being on the back foot (hopefully) will all help with that. Medics are meant to be some well trained people but they are working with out of date equipment from what I have heard

    I think investment is required in a lot of places as well mate as u can tell haha youth set up is a bit of a joke though category status is still up in the air we aren’t producing anything near a starter realistically and we are still over hyping them. I thought the clear out would of helped this and it still might but it hasn’t had much investment since it seems

  • 177 JackButler // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    Forget the like’s of Gervinhio, we’d be far better off with Sinclair

  • 178 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    Tbh if Gervinho played week in week out I think he’d show a lot more than he has done at Arsenal

  • 179 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    Very risky getting him in for 9 million, have to be honest I’d rather have Hernandez or lukaku two names banded around on here for weeks. It will be a no go I’d say Arsenal pay telephone numbers, there wage bill is obscene

  • 180 JackButler // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    WWYCD

    There were people who thought the same with Obertan, now I’m not saying that he’s as poor as that, but he’s not much better imo

  • 181 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    scout
    Surely you don’t mean Chicharito? I heard Juve and Real Madrid were eyeing him.

  • 182 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    JB
    Howay Gervinho has been in and out of the team and was part of a fantastic Lille team Obertan was a reserve level player whose potential was ruined by the move. No comparison imo

  • 183 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    Yes, that’s him. Can’t see Man.u selling maybe a loan.

  • 184 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    Yo
    Yeah it will help not playing twice a week but tbh 90% of our starting 11 are internationals they should cope, other clubs do, although I suppose they have the luxury of rotation when needed, which imo we don’t, we certainly don’t have that quality of depth anyway, our bench was embarrassing last season!!
    Yup still a hell of a lot of investment to be made to get this club a regular top 6 and have a good academy
    Over to you mr Ashley i suppose!

  • 185 JackButler // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    WWYCD

    He’s been in and out of the team as he hasn’t done enough to earn a regular starting place. We dodged a bullet when he moved to Arsenal as he’s done nothing, he may have done well for Lille but as done nothing in the Prem. For the money that people are talking about there are far better players out there

  • 186 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    WWYCD – but there is a big comparison in type of player. Quite quick, can get past people sometimes, absolutely AWFUL decision making!!!

    ….and both have strange looking heads.

  • 187 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    toonarmydownsouth
    True mate we should of done better but there was a lot going on with the squad and a few players just didn’t show up but that’s a different matter next season will be better imo (although this season was crap mostly I am still happy with our Europa showing we took on some fine teams and were never really shown up, even by Benfica)

    JB
    Am not saying he’s the best mate but he’s better than what we have imo

    Also curious of who is available for 9 mill that is better haha

  • 188 Belfast // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    Sinclair is injured for four months or something I think, so we can forget about that one.

  • 189 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    @scout
    Well Juve have just signed Higuain, so I guess that’s 1 competitor out the way :)

  • 190 GeordieToon89 // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    Sorry but if we’re going to pay £8/10million for a Striker/Winger that we’ve been linked with before why don’t we just get Remy!! He’s a lot better than Gervinho and he wont be fecking off to the ACON every couple of years.. Oh and he knows how to finish!!

  • 191 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    Without doubt better than we have

  • 192 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    gonufc
    Haha I think Gervinho has more about him than Obertan, Cabaye said Gervinho was the best he had played with am sure and he’s no slough

    Does have a dodgy head though I will give u that

  • 193 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    Nice one norcal haha

  • 194 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    @TransferSources: BREAKING: Juventus have agreed a €25m deal with Real Madrid to sign striker Gonzalo Higuaín #AFC #JUVE

  • 195 JackButler // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    WWYCD

    Agree that he may be better than what we have, but thats more of a sad reflection on how poor we are in wide area’s

    As to who we could look at well, Scott Sinclair, Dries Mertens, Jeremain Lens, Nicolás Gaitán, tbh not sure these would come within that 10 million mark but I’d prefer any of the above to Gervinhio

  • 196 Belfast // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    Remember a few years ago everybody on here was having wet dreams at the thought of us signing Gervinho lol

    How times change.

  • 197 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    Wahey wor stevie’s on twitter!
    @steveharper37
    Legend

  • 198 Big Pappa Cissé // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    I rate Gervinho higher than Obertan, but both lack a “footballing brain” and seem to do everything right then either hit the first man with a cross or hit a poor shot.

    We could get Marko Marin from Chelsea for less and he is a cracking little player IMO and has not had a fair chance for them.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i10lJnpg2I

  • 199 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:27 PM

    @JackButler
    We could also go for Mertens opposite winger; Jeremain Lens. We were linked back in January and had officials in the Netherlands if memory serves. Might be a slight bit cheaper than his teammate.

  • 200 Belfast // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:27 PM

    That was a full saga that Gervinho transfer like.

    Everybody was convinced we were signing him lol

  • 201 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:27 PM

    JB
    Well yes but that’s another story our winger options are stupidly light

    Am not sold on Sinclair tbh would rather have Ince at this point in time but any of the others I’d happily take dont think they are likely barring Lens though he seems to of already agreed to move to the PL so could be with us

  • 202 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    scout
    ya problem is the last competitor is the richest club on earth :)

    I would love Chicharito. Bought him on FIFA career mode :)

  • 203 Big Pappa Cissé // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    No way I would pay that for Higain. You can get much better for the price IMO

  • 204 Big Pappa Cissé // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    @ tads

    With Higuain going to Juve that would knock Giovinco down the pecking order. He is small and lightweight but I would love us to go for him, can turn defenders inside out.

  • 205 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    Jack Butler
    Gervinho was great for Lille but yeah hasn’t settled in the league so how can you claim that Dries Mertens, Jeremain Lens, Nicolás Gaitán are better players? The risk is the same if not slightly higher as I think the Dutch league is weaker than the French league and none are prem proven
    I’m all for scouting the leagues for some potential superstars but think we need some lads in with top flight experience just to get some grit and fight back in the team because we had no fire last season at all

  • 206 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    Belfast
    I do believe that was my first experience of Colin’s ITK powers haha

  • 207 Tsunki // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:31 PM

    It would be a laugh if it want such a chore to go back to that window when Gervinho was in the frame ha ha I think he went rapidly downhill after the Barton thing, and he was at the bottom of the hill then.

    Trouble is we also bought a few players who looked dynamite in their leagues but well er they havent all lit up the rem have they? I dont think we will improve our stock by taking on other teams’ rejects so best forget about buying failures for cheap, they are still flops whatever bargain they seem to be.

  • 208 JackButler // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:31 PM

    WWYCD

    Ince would be a brilliant signing for us, also Matty Phillips :D

    I watched closely Sinclair over his time with Swansea and honestly think he’d be a very, very good addition for us.
    It’s all well and good Pardew wanting players with Premier League experience, but we all know that any prem player is over priced when you look at what you get get from over the water

  • 209 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:31 PM

    toonarmydownsouth
    Nolan and Barton back in? I am all for that!

  • 210 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:33 PM

    BPC
    Aye Giovinco is a cracking little player, always been impressed when I’ve seen him play, bags of pace, tricky, makes some great runs and is an absolute grafter never stops! Sadly I think there will be a long line of clubs after the lad

  • 211 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:33 PM

    BPC – Think Giovinco would be far far out of our reach

  • 212 JackButler // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    tads

    Yeah taking players from oversea’s comes with risk’s, but less of a risk than signing someone who has already failed to live up to expectations in this league and expecting a complete change.

    If Wenger can’t get the best out of the lad then what chance does Pardew have?

  • 213 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    Yo
    Have to say I’ve watched Sinclair for years now ever since his palace days, he’ll certainly never be world class but he would be a great player for us imo

  • 214 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:36 PM

    JB
    Haha Matt Philips haha. Tbh we can both hold our heads high when we said buy Long ;)

    Sinclair I only saw with his time in the prem and he was good but not great imo seems to of taken the Adam Johnson route as well which is disappointing. I agree they are over valued but we aren’t a poor team we should have money to spend

  • 215 Belfast // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    Yeah that’s right Colin on twatter had us all fooled lol

    I was gutted like, mainly because I watched some Ivory Coast match on some dodgy African stream, thinking I was watching our new signing Haha

    Think everybody realised cwarr07 was full of crap after that one.

  • 216 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    JB
    I don’t think it’s any less of a risk at all mate there are no gauruntees in football mate!

  • 217 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    Norcal
    Hopefully he has an England based girlfriend

  • 218 Ginger // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    89Norcal

    Fair point.

    Fergie will more then likely be loaned back to Birmingham. Which is the best thing for him and our club as it’ll increase his value.

  • 219 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:40 PM

    toonarmydownsouth
    He probably would be good but it just doesn’t excite me overly would rather have Ince…or Lestienne :D

  • 220 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:40 PM

    Reckon there could be a few bargains coming out of Chelsea this summer, think mourinho will spend and spend big!
    Moses, Marin, de bruyne(?), kalas, heard maybe even Cahill and thibaut courtois maybe up for sale along with Bertrand

  • 221 AndyNUFC // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    Nobody fancy Taraabt and Remy for £16M?

    Add in Sinclair or Townsend £4M, Sakho £8M and we would have a very good team for less than £30M

  • 222 JackButler // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    WWYCD

    :D I purposely held off with the Phillips shout haha

    I’d still take Shane Long tbh

    Sinclair and Johnson both jumped at the chance of joining a club that was pretty much odd’s on to win trophies and I can’t blame either of them tbh, but both failed to break into the side and now have to start again.

    As to us having the money to spend? well someone should explain that to Ashley who has short arms and deep pockets

  • 223 Big Pappa Cissé // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    @ Norcal

    Maybe, I just can’t see him getting in ahead of Vucinic or Higuain. You never know ;)

  • 224 Belfast // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:43 PM

    Would certainly take Marin or De bruyne, can’t see them selling Moses.

  • 225 JackButler // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:43 PM

    tads

    I think there is less risk as we would be buying someone who could settle and work out as a great signing as apposed to someone who has already failed

  • 226 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:43 PM

    scout
    and hopefully she has ‘talent’, just look what Shakira did to Gerard Pique lol

    Ginger
    I reckon another season on loan maybe to get his size up a bit more. iirc he was on a weight gaining diet last year. From there we can give him that PL experience he needs to progress further. He could be an great threat if he gets consistent.

  • 227 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    Yo
    Not sold 100% on ince, don’t watch him a great deal but a few mates support fizzy pop teams and have said the hype seems to have got to him a bit but like I said haven’t watched much of him

    Tell you a couple of cracking fizzy pop players though,
    Johnathon Williams and bolasie at palace, great little players

  • 228 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    @BPC
    Definitely a case of monitoring the situation. Would have to be quite underhanded though, I’m sure all of Europe will be alerted if he wants to go.

    btw looks like Sunderland are going to lose Sessegnon.

  • 229 JackButler // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:46 PM

    Would anyone take Nathan Redmond?
    He’s only 19

  • 230 toon kk // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:47 PM

    We definitely need grit and determination back, serious lack of it last season. Don’t think we were totally match fit at the start of the season though. Maybe to many jars of ale!!!!!!

  • 231 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    Has anyone seen much of Campbell? Just wondered if he is worth a shot Pardew is talking the lad up a lot

  • 232 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    I wouldnt exactly jump for joy if we got Gervinho but his record at Arsenal is very similar to Ben Arfa’s for us and thats a damn sight better than the likes of Jonas. Gervinho can be extremely good if he decides to turn up but seems to be one of these players who just doesnt fulfill his potential.

  • 233 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    JB
    Haha he’s still a good player tbf

    Yeah can’t hold it against them but once they leave that knowing they could break into a great team I think their confidence drops a lot, I’d say Johnson shows that

  • 234 Big Pappa Cissé // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    @ norcal

    What a shame :) . Not just him, Mignolet is on his way by the looks of things as well. Really rate him like and he will probably go one of the PL big boys IMO.

  • 235 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    Belfast
    Not so sure mate think Moses would go tbh not really a mourinho style player would cost about £8 mil maybe? Who knows but think chelski will throw some cash about and can see a few players wanting to move on rather than sit and stagnate especially lads like Moses who aren’t on massive wages

    Ginger/norcal
    The problem is fergie is 22 soon he shouldn’t be going on loan anymore, he should be pressing a claim and tbh he’s looked average at best, I mean c’mon were getting excited simply because he managed a couple if crosses! If we had proper wingers he wouldn’t get a look in, for me he will be a fringe player at best

  • 236 sparky55 // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    INDIAN @ 121…Yep..his problem is with Pardew and his tactics…the shirt thing is just an excuse for wanting to leave

  • 237 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    toonarmydownsouth
    Haha maybe am sold with the hype tbf but when I’ve seen him he’s impressed me. That Bolasie looked good from what little I’ve seen on him no idea about the other lad haha both prem players now though so I doubt Palace would be up for selling them

  • 238 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:52 PM

    @BPC
    Crying shame! :D

    Unless they get some solid replacements, how scum will stay up next season I’m not sure.

  • 239 Tsunki // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    I have a gut feeling Fergie needs prem match time to get him up to his best, put him in the league you want him to measure up to I say. A run of games and see how he turns out, should have been given more starts in europe for me.

    Sessegnon, you say? Hmmm…..

  • 240 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    Toon kk
    If the board don’t get there effin fingers out we won’t be match fit for the start of this season either!! Another shambles of a pre season

  • 241 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    Tsunki
    I’d get him on loan to Cardiff

    WWYCD
    Williams is a proper number 10 him Zaha and bolasie ran the show for palace last season and the beauty of palace is, sadly for them, they always need to sell regardless of division they literally have no money!

  • 242 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    no use Tsunki, Sessegnon is 29 and is being targeted by Marseille, think he wants CL football.

  • 243 WWYCD // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    toonarmydownsouth
    Fair point aye but they don’t sell cheap haha

  • 244 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:58 PM

    Norcal
    Not surprised if sessegnon wants out, a lot of the Mackems lot have spoke out about Di Canio, the buzz word seems to be bully and several players have actually reported his actions against them to the players union

  • 245 9 // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    TADS@239
    “Another shambles of a pre-season”??? Last time I looked, it was June 9th. Are you taking enough water with it?

  • 246 Tsunki // Jun 9, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    tads – problem is we got excited about fergie’s crosses because for the few games he actually played he outcrossed both regular players down the left all season. I dont think its fair to dismiss the lad when he hasn’t had a decent run, and based on his byline average I dare say we would have scored from crosses into the box this season a lot more. But I’m not saying he’s the next big thing, just that he could do with games in proper competition, not n loan to champs clubs. Thats just a sidestep.

  • 247 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:01 PM

    tads
    So what you’re saying is it’s all falling apart for Scumderland?

    Excellent! :D

  • 248 Tsunki // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    No I wasn’t entertaining ‘Sess’ really, but we could do with a player with that kind of dynamism (ooh a new word) – on his day and when his teammates aren’t demoralising him with their woefully shoddy play, he is a real terror.

  • 249 9 // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:04 PM

    Sparky @58
    (Sorry, just joined in)
    “Wonder why the top players are leaving”??
    Eh, what?

  • 250 Tsunki // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    9 – don’t worry its a false alarm, we don’t have any ‘top’ players in any case. :)

  • 251 Big Pappa Cissé // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:07 PM

    Eljero Elia anyone ?

  • 252 9 // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:10 PM

    Tsunki, you tease!

  • 253 sparky55 // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    9…wait and see…it’s all about to unravel.

    Not too bothered myself…they’ve not performed this year anyway and nows the time to cash in as per Ashleys original plan.

    Anita and sissoko will provide the cover along with Mbiwa moving back into the middle…so no great loss in my book

  • 254 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    9
    I know the date fella and we’ve already had to pull out of the pre season tournament we were scheduled for due to it falling through……again
    Also not sure if you’ve noticed, most clubs have not only planned but also announced there pre season tour plans a few weeks before the end of the season, hell arsenal city chelski manure and Everton have already had a mini pre season
    Also most clubs have a contingency plan, you know for when things fall through, we still haven’t organised one to the point that a senior player has said last pre season was a joke and basically warned the club not to f this pre season up
    So yeah another joke of a pre season

    Tsunki
    That’s why I think loaning him to someone like Cardiff would be beneficial for all, personally apart from what 3 or 4 decent crosses he looked all that, I think he looked quiet lost imo but my initial point was that at his age he should of made a bigger impression by now and for me that’s the clubs fault they left it to late to loan alot of these lads out and they miss a certain point in there career that I think too many of our youngsters have missed, fergie Sammi vuckic tav

  • 255 Belfast // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    To be fair Tsunki your gut feeling is usually bollox.

    Tads

    Would love Moses, but just don’t see him leaving.

  • 256 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    Ya I’ve used that word before too Tsunki lol.

    The benefits we would reap from having a determined, talented EPL proven forward would be immense. Wish we could afford guys like Welbeck/Sturridge/Lukaku.

  • 257 sparky55 // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    moses is going to everton to join martinez

  • 258 dembademba // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    Watching Brazil v Newcastle (France)

    why haven’t I heard of n why haven’t we been linked with the French dm. Plays for st. Etienne, weird name. Torq toon help me out! Or any other French follower.

    Btw cabs n his lover both start

  • 259 9 // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    TADS ; Thanks for clarification. Don’t you think you’re being a wee bit premature, though? As far as I can see, anything at all could happen in the pre-season, including disatster, but as we’re 10% into it, I think it’s a bit rash to declare a verdict.

  • 260 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    Gonna switch to watching Dreamboat and France soon as Vettel’s done lapping everyone.

  • 261 Tsunki // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:27 PM

    Belfast @ 254 – I think you are describing a pretty nasty medical condition there :)

    I think you are right though, I once had a gut feeling you talked sense. :D Anyway what happened to you james bond persona? I thought it gave you an air of mystery.

  • 262 Ginger // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    89Norcal

    Yeah he needs to bulk up a bit, not loads as we need his speed as well but just so he can actually hold onto the ball. I think he could end up being pretty decent.

    TADS

    That’s just our ridiculous ways of training up the youth. It’s three years too late to be loaning him out. But no, we let him rot away in the reserves for three years like we do with most players.

    It is best off just to loan him out though, even if doesn’t make it with us it’ll bump up his transfer fee a bit more. He has the potential to be a first team player, but that all depends on the striker we use.

    If we sign Carroll he’d thrive under that service from Fergie, if not then I don’t think he’ll be much more then a squad player.

    It’s pretty hard to find proper wingers with that good of a cross these days.

  • 263 LeToonARMY // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    Is anyone watching the Brazil France match Cabaye and Debuchy are looking solid lets hope they dont get injured and why is Sossoko and Mbiwa not playing for them

  • 264 Belfast // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    It was just a faze Tsunki.
    I’ve grew out of it now thankfully.

  • 265 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    Ginger
    Yep I think so too. No need to get too big.

    Switching on France game now. really don’t feel like watching Vettel’s stupid stabby finger.

  • 266 Belfast // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    This indykalia guy is comedy gold like lol

    I’m near pissing myself reading his page.

    He’s not right in the head

  • 267 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:40 PM

    262 – Yeah im watching the game the french commentators are boring the tits off me though. Sissoko might not be fit enough as he was injured the last few games for us and mapou just wasnt selected i think.

  • 268 Ginger // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:40 PM

    89Norcal

    What channel mate? or are you using a stream?

  • 269 HullMag6 // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:40 PM

    We have enough dm/cms. Wingers forwards and possibly some defense upgrading.

    Santon I’m sure was a winger at inter before the special one had a crisis and he stepped up and converted. He did well at rw vs Wigan.

    Early days guys. The window opens July 1st. Any announced signings are either free agents or they’re on pre contract.

    If were signing anyone it wont be common knowledge until medical or actually signing.

  • 270 toon kk // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    Kevin nolan should never have been sold he lacked pace but he held us together when AC left. I think we miss his experience also If AC ever did come back we’d need Joey B back thought they worked well as a pair.

  • 271 Ginger // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    That Neymar kid seems decent, reckon we could get him for about three million. Nice backup to Jonas.

  • 272 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    If Barton was still there you wouldn’t have seen the lazy performances last season, he would of kicked right off

  • 273 Ginger // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:47 PM

    We don’t need Joey Barton back. Sure he was passionate, but he was a thug.

  • 274 Jail for Ashley // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    Tads,
    I haven’t read any accounts but I have a feeling that pre season tours cost money with very little TV and sponsorship to come the clubs way so therefore an inconvenient expense , they probably keep falling through because Dekka is arguing over who’s paying for the hotels and gate receipts.

  • 275 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    9
    Not really when have the board shown ever that when plan A falls through they can successfully execute a plan B?

    Ginger
    We do like to hold onto the our youth players for some reason! Really don’t get it

  • 276 Jail for Ashley // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    Ginger,
    Ashley wouldn’t pay that much for a sub !

  • 277 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    @Ginger
    Sorry, watching on beIN Sport. Standard Definition unfortunately (thanks comcast).

    Debuchy is having a monstrous game vs. Neymar, who has gotten in dangerous positions on set pieces.

    @Belfast
    Is this you?
    https://twitter.com/indyliar

  • 278 Ginger // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    JFA

    Ah darn it! Hopefully he’ll become injury prone then we can get him!

    TADS

    This is just a strange club to be honest, a lot of things that we do baffle me.

  • 279 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 9, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    JFA
    Lol explains are scheduled game at Blackpool then!

  • 280 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    Close shot from Cabaye

  • 281 Tsunki // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    I think IndyKaila got a lucky guess in early on. I’m sure I thought he knew what he was doing once, but that didnt last long, his stories just got sillier and sillier. Another social media tart.

  • 282 Krul To Be Kind // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    Debs being roasted from what I’ve seen!

  • 283 Ginger // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    89Norcal

    It’s alright I found a stream!

  • 284 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    Debuchy is unstoppable right now.

  • 285 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    @Ginger right on man

  • 286 Ginger // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    Cabaye seems to be having a canny game.

  • 287 LeToonARMY // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    You can watch the game here mate http://www.eplsite.com/stream3.html and thanks Unbelieveable for the information. I think Sahko is playing im not sure but our lads look strong tho

  • 288 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    Now the club is on a solid financial footing, what happens next does he spend or just pocket the cash?

  • 289 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    Cabaye is good but he’s not on the ball much, seems to go through Payet and Valubuena often. Benzema has been poor.

    @LeToonARMY
    Sakho is playing.

  • 290 Ginger // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    Didn’t deserve that goal, sure that was a foul.

  • 291 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    Oscar scores, tough on France.

  • 292 toon kk // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    Teams like West brom and Swansea put twice the effort in compared to lackluster us last season. Wonder if Long would come?

  • 293 Ginger // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:15 PM

    Brazil are ripping them apart now.

  • 294 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    @scout

    Probably nothing earth shaking until Mashley gets his 100m back. I even doubt the plans for our academy.

    As far as smaller clubs being more active – they seem to adopt the mentality that fast paced deals and spending is necessary. Meanwhile we’re on almost the opposite – looking for talent on the very cheap. Really we should be in the middle of those two.

    Guess when Graham Carr is your scout, it’s easy to get complacent as an owner.

  • 295 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    Remember long when they done us 3-2, can that boy run a line, like a young Michael Owen.

  • 296 Ginger // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:21 PM

    toon kk

    I think we’re more of an appealing club then West Brom, not sure about Swansea due to Europe.

  • 297 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    Sounds about right Norcal, I think a Russian will buy the club this year if I’m honest. First thing they’ll do is chase Pardew and replace him with someone of standing

  • 298 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    @scout I wouldn’t mind that. Though I would hope not to turn into a circus like Chelsea, I think it would cheapen the success for a club of our values (ever so slightly :))

  • 299 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    Cabaye off for Gomis, still 1-0 France.

    Deschamps just throwing on more strikers lol

  • 300 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    Norcal have you ever read jail for Ashley’s comments that he writes, hilarious, some of the one lines are class

  • 301 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    @scout
    Oh yes I’ve seen a few.

    The “fork in the sugar bowl” one seriously got me. :lol:

  • 302 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    Gomis is a good hand

  • 303 scout // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:49 PM

    Liked the one about Claire balding

  • 304 89Norcal // Jun 9, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    Jesus, don’t think France deserve a 3-0 loss.

    Think it was Debuchy who made the penalty foul, his one poor moment of the game tbh.

  • 305 jimmysmith // Jun 9, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    These players are the talent driving a giant global industry. They definitely deserve to be well renumerated, You might criticize what they do with it but not the amount they revive relative to their role in generating it.




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