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Newcastle Must Keep Top Frenchman This Summer

11:42 pm, Wednesday, June 12th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 93 Comments

Massadio Haidara was interviewed in the Newcastle Journal today, and he talks about one of our best players – Yohan Cabaye – who he didn’t know much when he first arrived on Tyneside in January.

yohan cabaye   both hands up

Yohan Cabaye – one of Newcastle’s top players

Yohan was drafted in as captain in February, after Fabricio Coloccini injured his back against Swansea, and it seems that Yohan was already acting the part of captain when he welcomed  the five new Frenchmen to the club in January.

This is what  the 20 year-old told the Journal  about Yohan today:

“Of course I want Yohan to remain at Newcastle United this summer,” “He’s a really important player for the club and for the team. He’s a great player and has certainly shown how important he is for Newcastle and for the French national team too.”

“From a personal point of view I didn’t really know Yohan that well before I came to Newcastle – I had played against him before and he’s one of the players who gave me the warmest welcome, and I’d like to express my thanks to him for that.”

“He really helped me to settle and I get on very well with him – just like I do for the rest of the team.”

Massadio’s not the only one who wants to see Yohan stay at Newcastle this summer, and Yohan has many admirable qualities, apart from his football.

Cabaye struggled as the Newcastle captain over the last few months of the season, but in subsequent interviews he has said he did his very best fro the club – which of course he did.

But Yohan is still being tracked by Monaco and maybe PSG, and Monaco’s Sporting Director Vadim Vasilyev has commented that he’s an interesting player.

But they are now linked with Real Madrid’s Ronaldo with an £80M bid being lined up, so maybe they want to spend more money on bigger players than Yohan this summer.

We hope so.

Maybe Monaco’s goal is to spend as much money as possible this summer (as if that was good), and Cabaye would be just too cheap? 😀

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93 responses so far ↓

  • 1 89Norcal // Jun 12, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    That Ronaldo to Monaco deal was worth about 20m a year as well, I read.

  • 2 sparky55 // Jun 12, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    Gentlemen…we’ve got more chance of keeping Cabaye than we have of signing PEA…and on that note I’m off to bed too

  • 3 Spoof // Jun 12, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    NBA
    sadly, you are wrong m8, since Ashley took over we have received more in transfer fees than what we have bought, thats why some of us can see how impossible Alan Pardew’s job is and put all the blame at Ashley’s feet, he is not allowing our manager to manage, sadly there is a large % who will not accept this and still feel that getting rid of Pardew would solve some, if not all of our problems, how fickle and blinded some are.!

  • 4 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 12, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    NBA

    When Ashley bought the club he said he would’ve willing to invest £20M a year into the club. This wasn’t clear whether this was a gift or a loan though.

    And this was before loaned us around £140M to pay off debt and keep us going in the Championship.

  • 5 sparky55 // Jun 12, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    by the way…one last thing…IMO Pardew is the cancer…Cabs and Cisse and Colo and Benny wouldn’t even dream of leaving newcastle if we had a manager who could manage and who could play to our players strengths…he’s the problem…not Ashley…we have a good squad thanks to Ashley and Carr with a sh!t league position because the managers a dullard

  • 6 Spoof // Jun 12, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    TDS
    and lets not that Kevin Keegan proved Mike Ashley to be a liar, and that was in a Court of law.

  • 7 sparky55 // Jun 12, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    me @2…got that all wrong cos I’m so knackered…meant to say more chance of signing PEA than we have of keeping Cabs…he’s off and we all secretly know it

  • 8 AMEOBI // Jun 12, 2013 at 11:59 PM

    Ed, coloccini injured his back against Liverpool

  • 9 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 12, 2013 at 11:59 PM

    Sparky

    Now you’re spouting mindless speculation again! You have no idea if those players want to leave, they may be staying BECAUSE of Pardew as far as you know.

    It can’t be good for being constantly negative about our football club…

  • 10 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    Spoof

    That is true too…

    I’d love it if he stuck to that and reduced the debt by £20M each season…hmmmm…that would be high on my list in a Q&A session!

  • 11 Newcastle Brown Alien // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    Oh well that’s a shame, I can see this being another unproductive summer now.

  • 12 wynsleap // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    If we could get £25 million for Cabaye from Monaco and use the money to buy two top forwards and a winger I’d be more than happy to see him go.
    Have always thought he was vastly overrated by the fans just because he is a current French international. Move Marveaux into his place permanently (which he needs) and there would be no appreciable reduction in creative performance.
    The purchase of Boney, Remy and Mertens would make one hell of a difference to the Toon next season.

  • 13 jimmysmith // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    yeah sparky, that’s pretty much my take too, manager is lacking, no disgrace in that, tough job to put it mildly, and the squad has been unbalanced for far too long, ie genuine wingers and another top striker.

    Close to a force, but no cigar, in fact in danger of seeing it come apart.

  • 14 89Norcal // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    wynsleap
    quite a lot of people seem to rate Cabaye, including fans from other clubs. He is definitely quality, and did better this season than most people are saying.

  • 15 Spoof // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    sparky
    KK knew he couldn’t manage under Ashley so he left, since he left we have received more from sales than from what we have bought, that makes it difficult for any manager, Pardew has been forced ( not chosen ) to sell approx £20m more than what he has been allowed to spend, and after all of this where are we now, 3/4 places lower than what we were when he took over, and bearing in mind the injuries ( yes it has had an impact ) the extra games and the obvious lack of form from Colo, Tiote, Cabaye and Cisse, then you have got to realistically say that all in all, we are now better off than what we were when he took over, and taking into account that his net spend is somewhere in the region of -£20m, then what we should be asking is, how the hell did he do it, yet he gets berated, mind boggling to say the least, open your eyes and take a good luck as to what is holding us back, and it aint the manager

  • 16 jimmysmith // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    I think Collocini and Cabaye are our best and most influential players, and would be dismayed to lose either one of them, but it is definitely on the cards we’ll lose both.

  • 17 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    £25M and £40kpw off the wage bill doesn’t buy 3 top players on 5 year contracts!

    How about we stop wishing our players out because of the money! I don’t want to see any players leave really, but there are some that I wouldn’t exactly shed a tear over…

  • 18 89Norcal // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:12 AM

    ToonDarnSarf
    I know how you feel, would be gutted if Jonas were to go

  • 19 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    Transfer fees and wages come from the club, not the owner! Transfer profits have either stayed in the club or been used to pay off debt.

  • 20 Newcastle Brown Alien // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:16 AM

    wynsleap, The thing is, the money we normally get from selling players, isn’t invested to getting players, (which is why I thought we got a 20M budget). we were told that the 35M for carroll would be invested into the squad, but what actually happened was we just bought players on the cheap instead of buying quality
    here is the notable transfers in after carroll was sold
    cabaye – 4M
    santon – 5M
    obertan – 3M
    ba – free
    marveaux – free
    elliot – free
    cisse – 9M
    anita – 7M
    debuchy – 6M
    sissoko – 2M
    gouffran – 2M
    Yanga-Mbiwa – 6M
    haidara – 2M

    that’s only 11M more than we got for carroll, and that’s basically an entire team. so don’t hold your breathe for big names coming in from a sale.

  • 21 Spoof // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:18 AM

    TDS
    I totally agree m8, if someone offered £60m (ludicrous I know ) for any of our players, including Mike Williamson I would say it was a bad deal, for the simple reason that MA would have cash in his pocket and we would be a player less, which cannot help the squad, even if it is Mike Williamson. I appreciate how ludicrous this sounds, but I’m sure you can see my point.

  • 22 Spoof // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:21 AM

    TDS
    are you seriously trying too say that MA has no say over transfer fees paid ?
    and what debt, the debt that MA owes to himself, come on TDS, you know better than that.

  • 23 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    Spoof

    MA may make the final decision on matters involving the club, but it’s the club’s money that is spent. The club owes about £120M to MA. Around £100M of this was debt to banks under Shepherd, and it must have cost us millions a year in interest.

    I’m not including the purchase price, which is only debt as far as the accounts are concerned.

  • 24 jimmysmith // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:33 AM

    Ashley has been good for the club financially and provided us with a good collection of players, but he is a shifty b@stard and his greatest trick is in convincing the world we still owe him over a hundred mill.

    How long has he had his Sports Direct logo and advertising plastered all over the Stadium, and for how long was the ground called Sports Direct Arena and how many players has he bought in on the cheap on lower wages.

    His fiscal prudence goes on and on and he must be well ahead by now, despite what he’d have you believe.

  • 25 89Norcal // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    It’s ok though jimmysmith, because Wonga, being the noble company they are, are doing away with the Sports Direct banners.

    http://www.thefootballnetwork.net/main/newcastle-united/s70/st182309/wonga-remove-sports-direct-monstrosity

  • 26 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    I’m off to bed now, but how about people read the accounts before they make judgements on the finances of our club…

  • 27 Spoof // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:41 AM

    TDS
    Mike Ashley owns Newcastle football club, the club itself does not have any outstanding debts to any bank, any money owed by Mike Ashley’s Newcastle United business is owed only to Mike Ashley, how much do Sports Direct owe Mike Ashley ?, has that question ever been asked, and assuming the answer is nothing because he owns it, then why does he have a different outlook on us, why does he not incorporate us into his business empire, why are we cast adrift and put into a position where we will always owe him ?

  • 28 09nufc09 // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    Newcastle brown alien… When carroll was sold he was on 30k and we recieved 35 mil, out of them players youve listed I would say atleast nine of them are on more than 30k so where do you think that money comes from?
    On ashley taking money out the club… When he made the interest free loan he said he didnt want the money back until the club was sold, the money he took out was from the money he lent us when we got relegated and we kept all our players to get promoted straight back. 30mil i think it was to keep the likes of barton, nolan, colo, enrique, gutierrez and smith all on massive wages.

  • 29 Spoof // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    and more importatnly, why do us fans back and support him when he is doing this

  • 30 jimmysmith // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    yeah, I!d like to know the full story behind that little arrangement.

  • 31 Spoof // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:46 AM

    TDS
    if you read the accounts yourself you will see that our debt is now larger than what it was before Mike Ashley took over, the claim is that the growth of debt is reducing, but it is or was reducing until this year, but the debt has increased, so, as you yourself stated, why don’t people read the accounts before they comment.

  • 32 09nufc09 // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:48 AM

    Spoof… The reason the debt is bigger is because the club dont need to pay itback until the club is sold, and he bank rolled the club getting relegated(this is the only money he wants back) until the club is sold.

  • 33 jimmysmith // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:54 AM

    Well it does seem a moot point as he only gets back what he can sell it for, but he’s clawed back a whack as far as I can tell and yet this nebulous debt remains.

    That’s purely a tax dodge surely.

  • 34 Spoof // Jun 13, 2013 at 12:56 AM

    09
    we were still losing money up until the last accounts were issued, that includes relegation/promotion and a 12th place finish, a year gone April it was announced that we had only lost about £3.5m, a minor amount, however we were still losing, and if that man left today he would be leaving us with a bigger debt than what we had when he joined, and that is visable for all to see, so why are we defending him ?

  • 35 Spoof // Jun 13, 2013 at 1:03 AM

    09
    there is a saying “you can fool all the people some of the time, and you can fool some of the people all of the time”, which category do you come under, before you decide, look at the accounts m8, they will tell you a different story to this accounts success which we are being fed.
    We are no better off, all we have now is a fan base who accept second best, because we know that that is the best we will ever get.

  • 36 jimmysmith // Jun 13, 2013 at 1:06 AM

    If he sold up the debt would disappear. Although the genius, might somehow manage to sell and maneuver the said ‘debt’ to some other shifty operator. Hey, but that’s just business, always thought that defense stunk to high heaven, right off the bat.

  • 37 09nufc09 // Jun 13, 2013 at 1:06 AM

    From a club statement…
    In relation to recent media speculation following the statement made by the Club on May 9, Newcastle United would like to make it clear that owner Mike Ashley is not looking for his interest free loan to be repaid, or to take any money out of the Club.

    We owe nothing to the banks and pay for players upfront so never will, if someone buys the club it will cost 244 mil but wil have no debt.

  • 38 jimmysmith // Jun 13, 2013 at 1:16 AM

    Look, Ashley is wringing the F@ck out of the club, and now that he’s effectively recouped, watch him kick on, and the team I guess with it, but there is still some grubbiness attached.

  • 39 Spoof // Jun 13, 2013 at 1:17 AM

    09@28
    the money to pay wages comes from the same plave as other clubs who have a smaller turn over than us, so bearing in mind Sunderland have a smaller turnover how do you explain this, especially when they have a larger net outlay to assemble their squad

    http://www.newcastleunited-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/mackems_pay_better_wages_than_newcastle_797502/index.shtml?

    @37
    we owe nothing and has already been disgussed, we are not now losing money, so what will happen to the sky and wonga cash, the £244m which you mention could to a cynic person read as being £144m, which he paid for the plus the £100m loan he gave us, but that would be cynical, so will the sky and wonga cash reduce the asking price ?

  • 40 Spoof // Jun 13, 2013 at 1:21 AM

    09
    and can you really trust anything that he tells us, afterall, Kevin Keegan proved to the world that he is a liar, and that was in a court of law !

  • 41 Spoof // Jun 13, 2013 at 1:25 AM

    jimmy
    if Ashley was making an absolute fortune from the club, but we were a successful team competing at the level a club of our size should be, fine, good luck to him, but when there is a potential to do better and we are held back, then that is simply wrong, I honestly couldn’t care less how much he earns, provided he does his best for us, but I don’t see him doing his best for us, hence the resentment ? personally I feel I’m being fair, but others feel that the sun shines out of his back-side ?

  • 42 jimmysmith // Jun 13, 2013 at 1:34 AM

    I think that the club has benefitted from Ashley’s ownership and will continue to do so and perhaps even fulfil our immense potential, but I think that success will only always be secondary to Ashley’s personal success.

    We are his servant and he is not and shows no sign of becoming, our patron.

  • 43 Sydney Toon // Jun 13, 2013 at 2:12 AM

    89Norcal
    Saw your post earlier.. tell you what mate the wenches here are fantastic!! LOl just kidding, a few come through horse back, no joke my friend! Apparently because I have a serbian surname, I am a euron****r!! Unbelievable, especially when I look like a dinky die country boy with blonde hair!!

    Seeing prouds post earlier, he said that Ashley does not want Remy after what he did, appears he has burned a lot of bridges at a number of clubs, plus he wants the same wages he is getting at QPR. His attitude stinks, no deal for me!

    Bent is a different story, sign him up. It is rare to find an experienced striker that still has his powers. Especially at 5m and I think 50k week wages would be fair given his reputation and ability. I think a lot here are basing his ability on the season just gone, he is a special player, fantastic in the air and very mobile.

  • 44 09nufc09 // Jun 13, 2013 at 2:23 AM

    Spoof… Sunderland loose money every year and have to be bailed out, thats the reason why they always sell players and loan alot of players.

    The sky and wonga money goes towards transfers, wages, improving the training ground, improving the academy(to get cat 1 status). Every year the finances are released and it proves mike ashley has took no money out of the club, yet people still argue that he is. It makes no sense.

  • 45 jimmysmith // Jun 13, 2013 at 2:32 AM

    ST, you`re not gonna marry one a them bare back riding, sporting, Roma gals are ya. There rougher than a pair of hessian undies, mate.

  • 46 Spoof // Jun 13, 2013 at 2:41 AM

    09
    how much do the Newcastle accounts show for all the Sports Direct advertising, a big fat zero, to me thats fine, why transfer from one of his businesses to another, its unnessesary, but at the same time why does he not incorporate us into his overall business, but then not allow for cash which should be ours, and before we had Wonga and the now lucrative sky deal we still broke even, actually we made a small profit, so I ask again, where is the additional money going, we don’t know, but I bet it’s not into Alan Pardew’s transfer kitty.
    Finances released to the public mean nothing, ask Lester Piggott and especially Google, there are always legal loop-holes which we don’t see, an example being high earners who get their wages paid into a foreign bank account and then get paid off them via a loan, saves them a fortune on taxation, lets not be so gullible.

  • 47 Sydney Toon // Jun 13, 2013 at 2:48 AM

    jimmy
    No way mate.. I have had a few proposals, desperate hoochies my friend, wedding bands don’t matter to them apparently! If you ever get here one day, recommend the Empire Hotel, best steak and chips!!

    I really hope Cabaye stays, I believe he will seek reassurances on the style of play before he makes up his mind. He does have a World Cup to consider, in the end representing your country at a world cup is higher than playing for your club.

  • 48 09nufc09 // Jun 13, 2013 at 2:50 AM

    Spoof… Mike ashley only owns 64% of sports direct, We were one of the biggest spenders in the january transfer window. Newcastle finances have to be checked along with all premier league club.

  • 49 shearermania // Jun 13, 2013 at 4:33 AM

    Archie Thompson could do a job?

  • 50 Sydney Toon // Jun 13, 2013 at 4:52 AM

    Shearer!!
    Good One…why don’t we just bring back Viduka and Craig Moore while we are at it then???

  • 51 Indian Magpie // Jun 13, 2013 at 5:23 AM

    Thought of the day!

    Sack Pardew

  • 52 Sydney Toon // Jun 13, 2013 at 5:32 AM

    Joke of the day

    Indian magpie

    enough said!

  • 53 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Jun 13, 2013 at 5:39 AM

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, in terms of our board I think we’re almost as bad as Arsenal- the only thing keeping us above them is that our lot are so inept and clumsy that they make it strikingly obvious that they are buying and selling players for profit rather than footballing improvement.

    The Carroll money was quite simply not used to buy players as they made it seem. They didn’t lie so much as just be disingenuous.

    The horrible little P.R. ploys like “sources” reporting Rooney interest. Having the Stadium/ stand names ‘chosen’ to be ‘gifted’ back to assuage negativity about things like Wonga as if it wasn’t entirely within his power all along:

    These things are all incredibly insulting and patronising.

    We know that owns the club for advertising. Mediocity works perfectly for him. Then the odd European night where he can advertise the Greek branch of Sports Direct are an extra bonus!

    With the huge influx of extra T.V. money not spending this summer is simply greed, laziness or possibly spite.

  • 54 Santon03 // Jun 13, 2013 at 6:04 AM

    Spoof

    It seems like it’s not pardew’s fault, it’s all Ashley’s fault according to you. Last season we were beaten by lesser teams in our own backyard, when we bought 5 new players in January we got thrased by Sunderland and Liverpool, is it still Ashley’s fault not pardew’s? Even when we have better players available pardew keep playing Shola and Jonas, pardew loves hardworker then why did he keep Shola playing? His tactics are terrible, we can’t even score from indirect free-kicks, how is that Ashleys fault? Maybe it’s not that Ashley didn’t want to spend, maybe it’s just that some of the transfer targets are asking ridiculous fees for unproven talents.
    If you are defending pardew, then you supposed to be grateful to Ashley for keeping pardew after last season.

    Anyway, since we are stuck with pardew, let’s hope he has learned from his mistakes.

  • 55 Indian Magpie // Jun 13, 2013 at 6:11 AM

    What shd i talk about?

    Football, we don’t play that good
    Transfers -yeah why not, IF they happen. Hope they happen

  • 56 Indian Magpie // Jun 13, 2013 at 6:13 AM

    Talking of Jokes

    Pardew once went to see the Empire state building and thought “Wish we could hoof it that long”

    By the time it came down the game would be over and we would have gotten our point and a clean sheet. :) :)

  • 57 Tiote4PM // Jun 13, 2013 at 6:15 AM

    Anthony Pilkington odds on to sign for us. Bloody shocking.

  • 58 Indian Magpie // Jun 13, 2013 at 6:15 AM

    I realised this last night!

    Pardew was right when he said his teams always play on the front foot.

    You can’t hoof it of the back foot 😉 😉 😉

  • 59 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Jun 13, 2013 at 6:20 AM

    ahhsrgg…. I think the kind of players we’ve been linked with show that Pardew and co. absolutely have NOT learned their lesson from last summer like Pardew and Llambias kept saying they had!

    Minimum outlay to achieve the minimal acceptable result (i.e. 17th…..)

  • 60 cyprus // Jun 13, 2013 at 6:24 AM

    Cabaye, not surprisingly, is looking at the Manus of this world. But, he must realise that he had a poor season which means he will not be offered the kind of money he may expect.
    I will commit desecration in stating I’m not yet fully convinced about this player being the team pivot. Sometimes he should sit it out on the bench to give a chance to new formations, the Marveauxs, Anitas and new signings to sign.

  • 61 Santon03 // Jun 13, 2013 at 6:25 AM

    gonufc

    it’s still mid-june, be patient. I will join you panicking if 10 or 20 days left fro transfer window and we haven’t signed anyone. Most players are still on their holiday and preparing for Conf. Cup.

  • 62 Sydney Toon // Jun 13, 2013 at 6:27 AM

    Indian

    You are comedian today! But you do need the back foot for leverage to hoof it as long as we do! Even Pulis and Allardyce would be screaming..

    Santon
    IMO it is all that is at fault. Ashley, right down to our younger players. We were diabolical in a lot of areas. I am optimistic that it will be chalked off, transfer business will be done and quality and quantity are brought in and talk of this technical advisor brought in from Belgium to get Pardew to open his memory bank and go back to games like West Brom and Chelsea. Pointless pointing fingers at either Ashley, Llambia or Pardew. I do recall Pardew saying he made some mistakes and wanted the opportunity to put them right. He is on holiday, so lets hope he comes back stress free and ready to work, and work hard.

    Tiote
    Media think we need a cheap left winger, Pilkington falls well into that category. They are just trying to piece it together but the rumours are the (from proud and torq) that we are in from Siem De Jong and Mertens.

    I have always come here to get more accurate gossip, much more toon smart people here!

  • 63 Santon03 // Jun 13, 2013 at 6:28 AM

    Cyprus

    I don’t think pardew know any other formations when kept playing Shola while Anita and Marveaux available on the bench.

  • 64 cyprus // Jun 13, 2013 at 6:28 AM

    “new signings to sign.”

    new signings to play.

  • 65 Santon03 // Jun 13, 2013 at 6:33 AM

    Sydney

    Yes, let’s hope he tries something new next season and take more risk during the game next season, because I can’t stand another season like last.

  • 66 cyprus // Jun 13, 2013 at 6:33 AM

    Santon, good point. I just hope he has learned something from this season. I’d love to know how they prepare for games. How scientifically do they work? How many set plays do they try? Do they actually score in training :) etc.

  • 67 Santon03 // Jun 13, 2013 at 6:36 AM

    Btw, I think it’s getting harder for us in this transfer window, because:
    1. we were so poor last season
    2. no European games
    3. less money than the big clubs
    4. every clubs will think our transfer target is great talents and they will ask more money since we got Tiote, Cabaye, HBA, SAnton, Haidara, Cisse quite cheap.

  • 68 Santon03 // Jun 13, 2013 at 6:41 AM

    Cyprus

    Hopefully less injuries in training and set plays much improvement, and hopefully we don’t go all out defending when we lead 1-0. :)

  • 69 Indian Magpie // Jun 13, 2013 at 6:44 AM

    You need both feet but you hoof it of the front foot

    That is all i Said

  • 70 Santon03 // Jun 13, 2013 at 7:03 AM

    There are some rumours that AC Milan is lining up 12milion euros for Krul, they will also trying to get Santon.
    Zenit also interested on Santon.

  • 71 cyprus // Jun 13, 2013 at 7:09 AM

    Those two players mustn’t be sold!

  • 72 Sydney Toon // Jun 13, 2013 at 7:15 AM

    Santon
    Does not surprise me Milan are after them, because they are looking for players in those positions. If we let Krul go, say for 15m, who would we go for? Pardew wants experience and Shwarzer is available for Free. Yes I know he is 40yo, but is still one of the best GK in the EPL. He can tutor Elliott and Alnwick or perhaps do we make a cheeky bid for Begovic or even Butland?
    I would hate to see Krul go because of his shot stopping ability, but there are much better distributors of the ball than Krul.
    Santon is an interesting prospect, I think there are two minds on him. Do we keep him and see if he can develop more into a winger or keep him as a supporting WB and hope he finds a stronger defensive edge, or do we allow him to go back to Italy, for a fee say 9m and put more effort into Haidara?

  • 73 Indian Magpie // Jun 13, 2013 at 7:19 AM

    Blah Blah Blah

    We are developing santon as winger? He has to attack more because Jonas can’t attack for toffee.

    Why can’t pardew tell Santon stay back like Simpson and let Jonas weave his magic?

    Santon gets unfair criticism

    Rant Over

  • 74 Santon03 // Jun 13, 2013 at 7:30 AM

    Sydney

    I think Krul is their primary target, because Milan don’t have young GK, they only have Gabriel who isn’t good enough.
    Santon might not want to leave yet and it will take more than 9mil to get him from Ashley.

    Indian
    Yes, It’s been unfair for Santon. He can’t go forward and back in a second, I don’t think the fastest sprinter in the world can’t do it and people seems to ask this of him full 90 minutes every game.

  • 75 Sydney Toon // Jun 13, 2013 at 7:41 AM

    Indian / Santon

    Agree that Santon gets hammered, teams do their homework on him, they know if we lose the ball when he is forward, he is unlikely to drop back instantly, hence why a lot of successful raids are down our left and why Pardew likes Guti there to assist. Colo, Taylor and even cabaye have come across to help, I think we need to bring a more potent winger, as their much more pressure on santon to play a double role.

    Santon
    then I guess santon will stay, Milan are not known to fork out big sums, they did that with a few players and it didn’t work out so well. In Italy, at 21 year old is still viewed as too young, hence I believe we paid perhaps 2m too much for him at the time. He is a wonderful talent, but we need to provide a bigger threat in front of him. Best example is Debuchy, he does not get forward too much, because he had Ben Arfa in front of him, where a lot of play goes.

    Hopefully bring De Jong in can give us a lot more options in attac, which will allow our fullbacks to pick the right moments rather than the added pressure of being a main attacking threat.

  • 76 Patoon // Jun 13, 2013 at 7:43 AM

    Would honestly rather c us sign Ricky Lambert than Darren Bent, he’s far better in the air and has far more 2 offer, at 31 he’s prob 2 old but its not like Lambert relies on pace, its all about his movement and strength

  • 77 Sydney Toon // Jun 13, 2013 at 7:44 AM

    One other thing, Baines come to mind when he attacks and defends well. The difference is that Baines has a huge engine, plus he rarely cuts in, stays wide, which in theory gives him more ability to track back. Santon does cut in a fair bit, so if we lose the ball he is generally standing in a central attacking midfield position, way beyond where he needs to be. Hence the reason why some want him as a winger, and allow a full back like haidara to come through at the same time.

  • 78 Sydney Toon // Jun 13, 2013 at 7:45 AM

    Patoon
    Now now, lets not emphatuate pardew’s ego by signing a player he did for Southampton and continually takes the rap for it!

  • 79 Patoon // Jun 13, 2013 at 7:46 AM

    Sydney Toon

    But Lambert is a good footballer

  • 80 Sydney Toon // Jun 13, 2013 at 7:54 AM

    Patoon

    He is a very good striker, with a great regular scoring record, no doubt. I just don’t want pardew going on and on… We will get that with Bent mind you. It would be a big upgrade on strolla, that’s for sure.

  • 81 sparky55 // Jun 13, 2013 at 7:54 AM

    Spoof@15…there’s nothing there I can agree with whatsoever.

    There’s very few managers in the modern game get to personally pick who comes into a club and we’re no different at newcastle.

    Pardews job is to get the best out the squad available to him and he’s been sadly lacking in that compartment since April 2012…fcuking rubbish in fact.

    you look at the 8 teams immediately above us in the Premiership this year and none of them have a squad anywhere near as good as ours…yet there we are…5th bottom and at breaking point because pardew was more determined not to lose instead of winning.

    Oldest saying in the book…if you set up not to lose, 90% of the time you will.

    Pardews management of our really good squad was pathetic and I’m sorry but you can’y lay the blame for that at Ashleys door….and if you try to then you’re blinkered…maybe it’s you that needs to open your eyes.

    Pardew needs sacking at the earliest opportunity and if they sack him early enough we might just keep the squad together…if we don’t the purples will up and go because they didn’t come to Newcastle to play the brand of football he’s making them play right now.

    THIS IS ALL DOWN TO PARDEW

  • 82 Marty-Toon // Jun 13, 2013 at 7:56 AM

    Every player had a bad season last year
    Cabaye is quality but he was nothing near to his best,he’s still quality and if a decent bid comes in He’ll be probably sold.
    We always have been an almost top team,right now we just need to add 2/3 players without letting important ones go but at nufc we usually wait to let go of those top players first while maybe replacing them but not having strengthened the squad,thus leaving top players wanting away due to the lack of ambition.
    Even when KK was here in the 90’s we had a decent squad but always had a defend or two that was a weak link and never get replaced.
    Many talk about wearing the stripes with pride but for someone that doesn’t come from the area,where will they have pride in?
    We are not a trophy winning club,nor do we challenge for the PL title r the cups.
    We have a big stadium and great fans,is that enough to attract top players?
    We’re a springboard club and will be that until we show some ambition and I can’t see it with AP in charge

  • 83 bills-son // Jun 13, 2013 at 8:02 AM

    Gonufc – Ashley buys players just to sell them on at a profit?

    You are another one who has bought into the biggest myth in football.

    In three seasons back in the Prem we’ve sold Enrique, Nolan, Routledge and Best for a profit. We didn’t buy Carroll. Now, I hardly think any of those four players were bought with the plan of making a profit – and Enrique was offered a contract he wouldn’t sign. Ba we wanted to keep as well but he excercised his right to leave for £7M.

    This sell at a profit myth comes from the AC sale – one of the best bits of business in the history of football – and Ashley/Llambias stating that no player will be allowed to leave that we want to keep unless stupid over the top money is offered. The rag top press interperets that as ‘Ashley will sell any player for a penny profit’ and the anti- Ashley crowd like gonufc buys into that sh1t.

    Simple fact is – our top players will only be sold if another club offers far more than they are worth. And not one of our players is worth £20M imo. Any offer of that or over should be considered for any of them.

  • 84 sparky55 // Jun 13, 2013 at 8:12 AM

    Bills-son…mmm…I think the flaw in your argument is that we haven’t seen the selling part of the cycle yet…we embarked on this purple thing three years ago…we”ve bought in some good young talent…their values have gone up…they’ve dropped a bit after last years fiasco, but the problem now is…how do you stop a player who wants to leave from leaving?

    answer…you can put a huge price tag on them but that’s just the start of it…we’ll not get more than 20 million for anyone in our squad but we will lose some purples this summer for sure and it will turn out to be good business because we have bought well in the last 2-3 years.

    Ashleys does buy players to sell at a profit…that was his boast when he started the purple thing…buy them young and cheap in the hope if he does end up selling there is value on the other side for us…that’s what he said because when he took over because he had loads of players on the books on massive wages with no re-sale value because they were at the end of their careers…so good business practice and very sensible…but we haven’t seen the selling part of the cycle just yet…but we will this summer

  • 85 Santon03 // Jun 13, 2013 at 8:15 AM

    Sydney

    The difference is Everton midfield helps to stop the ball going forward which gives Baines time to go back in defensive position, our midfield usually lose the ball when Santon making forward runs which caught him out of position. I think you can see it when you watch our games last season again, which I doubt you want to watch the nightmares again :).
    This problem can be solve if we play 3CB but I doubt we will use 3CB or our defensive midfields do some ball stopping or covering those vacant positions.

  • 86 Jail for Ashley // Jun 13, 2013 at 8:18 AM

    The Anita sitation is a bit tricky, he was a regular in the Holland squad and with a world cup coming up he will want to be assured of a starting place if he’s playing well as will Cabaye, Tiote and Sissoko, somebody will be leaving.

  • 87 NUFCarter // Jun 13, 2013 at 8:19 AM

    Apparently Sunderland want to sign Scott Parker.
    I will be well pissed off he goes there!

  • 88 Santon03 // Jun 13, 2013 at 8:33 AM

    sparky55

    I agree with Bills-son.
    As far as policy buying them while they are young and cheap so they can be sold for much higher value, if you can make huge profit like 4 or 5 times value, why not? who wouldn’t want that? If those big clubs can afford it, it will be great for us, if they can’t then it’s still good for us.

  • 89 Indian Magpie // Jun 13, 2013 at 8:42 AM

    Pardew – blameless
    Ashley – Visionary
    Llambias – Visionary’s acquaintance

    Indian Magpie – @#*@#@%@&@^#$%$^#^&^@^@^(#^&#$^#^($^&^$&(^&*#$&

  • 90 dbpjake // Jun 13, 2013 at 8:57 AM

    On the note of strikers, yes for Bent. Have been saying it for a while.

    Highly doubt we’ll get Remy, in all honesty I think he could stay at QPR. Why should he leave? He chose the money and the risky move, he has a contract and no player is bigger than the club, especially at the Rs. I cannot stand them.

    We are really missing out on Helenius going to Villa, top young striker and exactly what we need.

    Doumbia will not come here but god he would be amazing, simple.

    People seem to have forgoten about goufran, who last season was actually out of position at left wing. He’s not an out and out striker but he’s a mile better shola, obviously.

    Bony is a fantastic striker don’t get me wrong but at the minute he is not what we need, he is slow. We need more pace up front, we already have Cisse as our poacher so unless we’re selling Cisse I see Bony being a bit of a waste of money at the 10 odd million being touted

    My favourite out of our so called targets has to be Aubameyang. But that’s not happening either, many bigger clubs are after but his pace and power would be something else.

  • 91 Jail for Ashley // Jun 13, 2013 at 9:00 AM

    Bills,
    Although we haven’t seen it on a large scale the evidence is certainly there to show us whats in store, as sparky says the cycle hasn’t really started yet but I suppose this is what we are faced with and have to accept it, you mention Leon Best that to me was a completely senseless selling for little profit and probably cost us more in the long run.

  • 92 JAMSHA // Jun 13, 2013 at 9:06 AM

    Monaco, Napoli and Roma are all interested in
    Newcastle midfielder Johan Cabaye – DAILY
    MAIL

    johan cabaye lol

  • 93 south coast toon // Jun 13, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    none of us had a clue we would sign all them players in janurary, remy fell through and they couldnt get there other targets in, i think we have all got to hold our breath and wait as ashley proved to me he will always buy the right players, cisse came from no where, and we arent going to hear anything till a signing is close have some faith, we will sign good players,and how can you label us a selling club ac for 35mil was bordering on daylight robbery they have rejected offers for 20 mil plus for tiote and stated if you want our best players get yer big cheque book out, who would buy andy carrol back for 20 mil………theres always one lol




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