It’s Hard To Think Kinnear Will Bring More Stability To Newcastle


It was really surprising news yesterday, that Newcastle has appointed Joe Kinnear as the new Director of Football.

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Joe Kinnear – praying during a training session in 2008

Joe Kinnear is not a politician, there’s no argument about that, and he’s outspoken for much of the time, and true to form when interviewed yesterday he had this to say:

“I know I’ve got more knowledge than anyone at Newcastle about football.” “That’s no disrespect to anybody there.”

The first sentence is debatable – and seems a challenge to Alan Pardew that Joe know more about management than the current Newcastle manager.

The second sentence is plainly untrue, because it’s disrespectful to at least Alan Pardew, the current manager.

We’ve had one Director of Football before – Dennis Wise – and that was a complete and utter disaster.

Kevin Keegan and Dennis Wise didn’t trust each other – and it ended up in Wise doing the dirty on Kevin, by bringing in players Keegan knew nothing about.

And it’s a good call that one event on the last day of the summer transfer window in 2008, set in motion events that finally led to Newcastle’s first ever relegation from the Premier League.

When Wise and Keegan were at the club, owner Mike Ashley was much closer to his Director of Football than his manager, and the same will be true this time around, as insiders say that Mike Ashley just loves Joe and his confrontational and aggressive style.

This appointment of Kinnear puts pressure on Alan Pardew – there’s no doubt about it – and we wonder how their partnership will work.

We hope it works a lot better than the Wise – Keegan partnership – which resulted ultimately,  in Newcastle hitting one of their lowest points as a club in sixteen years.

We hope it will be a lot better this time around, but to be truthful we have our doubts.

And the appointment of Joe Kinnear will hardly bring more stability to Newcastle – if anything it seems on the surface, that it will bring less.

It seems an odd appointment,

What do you think?

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139 comments so far

  • Schwefelberg

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:22 AM

    Comment #1

    Ashley’ control of the club is like eating pig slops with diamond clustered knife and fork. Throw the slops in the face of

    the cook!!!!

    Demand Lobster Thermador and white truffle Marinara sauce for third course! Demand Pear and Cherry Clafoutis for dessert!

    Scream for the cheese wagon and cigar!!

    Kick the sloppy cook Ashley up the fat arse!

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  • jayphoto

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    Comment #2

    You know what, if he stays out of the media and does the d of F role rather than just try to undermine pardew to oust him and take the managers job then it might not be a bad appointment! It sounds like hes taking over Llambias’ duties on the footballing side! Can’t possibly be worse than Del boy!!! As for final say on transfers, If the scouts are putting the right players in front of him, it doesnt take a genius to see if a player is half decent or not if they have a full scout report in front of them!

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  • stuart no9

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    Comment #3

    the only thing he will bring is chaos !

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  • soundoid

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    Comment #4

    Well we have a Director of football and a manager with a God complex… what could possibly go wrong?

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  • NUFCarter

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    Comment #5

    At least we can say there will never be a dull day at NUFC with Ashley, llambias, Pardew and kinnear in control.

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  • Belfast

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    Comment #6

    We’re ferked either way. Two crap managers, if one fails the other one will take over. Just a disaster.

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  • elpaso_geordie

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    Comment #7

    most annoying thing for me is Kinnear insistence that we didn’t take to him as he wasn’t a Geordie ………. no mate its cos your incompetent

    boils me pi$$

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  • tenpointnine

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    Comment #8

    To quote Dad’s Army, we’re doooomed!

    Don’t think I will go into the office in the morning – the guy who sits opposite me is a scouser and the MD is a mackem!

    Maybe I will wake up and it has all been a dream?

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  • jayphoto

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:34 AM

    Comment #9

    Must be weird for all the pardew haters on this blog! Now we know, if Pardew goes its pretty much nailed on that JFK would take over, its difficult knowing whats better (or worse) be glad to see an end to the unrealistic lists of managers we should appoint tho

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  • stan anderson

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    Comment #10

    In 53 years of following the toon this is the saddest day.
    Just brings it home what is actually happening to our once famous club,
    .Being shafted by this cockney business man is to much to take for me,i am finished with what was the love of my life.
    Please join me and stay away and hurt the man in his pocket,its all we can do

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  • Belfast

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    Comment #11

    It’s a complete ferk up whatever way you look at it. I wouldn’t call it a soap opera, more like a comedy sketch.

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  • Tommyy

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    Comment #12

    Elapso – it’s an utter disgrace isn’t it? They portray us as inbred halfwit who do not trust anyone outside of our borders, when the reality is we actually don’t like an old hoofball has been who has a completely unfounded ego.
    I’m so angry about this it’s unreal, I’m done for now like many others, I just don’t have the energy. I’ll follow the scores but I’m not paying a penny more whilst this roundabout of clowns remain. I’m taking up golf.

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  • Tommyy

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:41 AM

    Comment #13

    Stan – I’m with you, no other club has to put up with this. I want to enjoy my football and this just isn’t it. Had enough.

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  • Rooster

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:41 AM

    Comment #14

    Jay, how bad is that when I would rather have Kinnear than pardew, at least hes got serious balls about him.pardew hasn’t.

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  • Schwefelberg

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:41 AM

    Comment #15

    Exactly Stan.

    Include the nasty credit Vultures at Wronga and you have a club that has been soiled.

    Bolton showed the way when the fans refused a credit Vulture as sponsor and the owners listened to them in a tasteful way.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:41 AM

    Comment #16

    Fat Joe has just announced a list of players he will be assessing for possible sale:-
    Yohan Goodbye
    Jeff Tiote
    Gill Bigman
    Gabriel Overmars
    Shola Ameoba.

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  • Tommyy

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    Comment #17

    I feel sorry for Pardew, he’s a poor manager and unlikeable at times but my god he doesn’t deserve this.

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  • Newcastle Brown Alien

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    Comment #18

    the only thing kin near could stabilise would be a see saw with MA on the other side.

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  • Belfast

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:48 AM

    Comment #19

    There’s not that much difference between the two of them. Kinnear is fatter and swears a lot more, that’s about it.

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  • elpaso_geordie

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    Comment #20

    Why cant media people come out a say something when ludicrous statements are made such as … am not a Geordie so they don’t like me bullshitt.
    I wouldn’t be able to hold my tongue when people come out with such blatant crap……
    I have to leave the blog and twitter for the next week as am ready to explode after todays developments……. fcuking waste of a season ticket again

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  • Toonacious T

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    Comment #21

    And so the circus continues….next week…..Gazza is brought in to mentor our Youth Academy players on how to conduct themselves off the park!

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  • Mark the Mag

    Jun 17, 2013 at 12:57 AM

    Comment #22

    JFK is a big fat sweaty peado with dirty greasy hair like a nonce – new all time low, just when you feel he cant humiliate us any more than the last episode Fat Ash yet again takes us to the new depths and squeezes the last remains of any dignity there is left from being a fan of this club. You wont win though we own this club, it is our life until the day we die.
    HWTL

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  • LeedsMag

    Jun 17, 2013 at 1:05 AM

    Comment #23

    elpaso @7 dead right mate – we will probably be portrayed as parochial ,flat cap wearing,whippet worrying ,cockneyphobic geordie in breds by the media but the truth is we know our football, know what we want to watch and are happy with anyone who can bring that to the club,The anti Kinnear feeling is based on his ability(or rather lack of) and absence of track record – not to mention being out of touch with modern football.As for Ashley – Jeez , how does anyone with a multi million pound business keep making crap decisions and failing to learn from mistakes

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  • manxpie

    Jun 17, 2013 at 1:05 AM

    Comment #24

    i’m just wondering who is the person that advises ashley on these kind of decisions or is it solely him because if it is solely him he needs to get his head checked or sack whoever does advise him and who thinks this is a good idea fcukin bonkers like

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  • gndtoon

    Jun 17, 2013 at 1:10 AM

    Comment #25

    it’s the bobby curse !

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  • Sav

    Jun 17, 2013 at 1:14 AM

    Comment #26

    Lets just hope its Llambias he’s replacing, rather than Pardew and Crazy Joe sticks to the transfer stuff. Perhaps Pardew has been frustrated that Llambias ends up making the final call on a deal and we end up losing out on the likes of Remy. Hopefully, JFK will put football ahead of a small profit.
    However his selective memory about his time here would indicate a nursing home would be a better retirement option than Director of Football at the Toon.

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  • Toonacious T

    Jun 17, 2013 at 1:15 AM

    Comment #27

    MA has applied his SD philosophy to NUFC management. Why pay for quality when u can have quantity. Two deluded idiots is fine so long as their combined costs are still alot less than one quality manager. If the plan is to agitate AP into resigning then I think MA seriously underestimates the depths Parsnip will go to in order to keep this job coz I doubt he will move on to bigger and better things!

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  • Schwefelberg

    Jun 17, 2013 at 1:15 AM

    Comment #28

    Manxpie

    Ashley just bought a sports chain in Austria that was in financial difficulties. It looks like a some excellent business that gives him sales in a very rich new market. An allround good move for his business.

    Then how is it he suddenly becomes a dumb Klutz when it comes to NUFC? Is it all a complex wind up and he despises the fans and area???

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jun 17, 2013 at 1:17 AM

    Comment #29

    Director of Football now – next position -Manager. A dark day in the Toons’ history.

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  • manxpie

    Jun 17, 2013 at 1:18 AM

    Comment #30

    sav didn’t he say 2 years lol?
    plus calling derek “david” i’m still hoping he was pissed and this is all a big misunderstanding and would show up a hell of alot of british reporters but that would be a dream!

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  • Toonacious T

    Jun 17, 2013 at 1:19 AM

    Comment #31

    And in another stunning coup. Mike Ashley recruits Shefni Kuqi as Newcastle’s new specialist striker coach!

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jun 17, 2013 at 1:25 AM

    Comment #32

    I’v just finished watching Bobby Robson’s DVD “A Night to Remember” which is in aid of his charity The Bobby Robson Foundation.

    What a great DVD, well worth watching about the great man. Excellent interviews from former players/managers past and present.

    Im just starting to play the second DVD which has just been released. “Another Night to Rememeber” which was at the Sage.

    No doubt this is going to be just as amazing as the first.

    It’s times like this when it’s good to sit and watch what our great club is truely all about and it’s heritage.

    If you havn’t seen them yet, I’d highly recommend them.

    Quality.

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  • Sydney Toon

    Jun 17, 2013 at 1:27 AM

    Comment #33

    I love NUFC!! Only club that can make supporters so happy one day.. then infuriate us to the point of acting like blackburn coward supporters! Seriously lads, time to take a deep breathe and lets just see how this transpires over the transfer window.
    We ALL know MA was very irritated by Llambias that he had to get involved through January. He now has somebody, like it or nit JFK, to complete transfers. He will get them done faster than Llambias. Commercially Llambias is quite good. He just is completely out of depth when it comes to transfers. I can see it now, De Jong and PEA sitting on one side of the table seeing the owner Ashley talking money and JFK talking passion. it could backfire but I tell you what it could really work.
    People slagging JFK, blaming him for the relegation?? Ah a lot have forgotten when he was put in charge we were 18th. when he had his heart attack, we were 12th and close to safety. We played a physical brand of football, but we had a physical side that fwit sam allardyce put together. I reckon if JFK stayed healthy we would have finished top 10. From memory we were unbeaten in 5 games when he was sick. the squad obviously liked him and responded to him, but when he was sick, Shearer and Hughton could not hold the fort well enough and the team crumbled.
    At least JFK is game enough to say whathe thinks, his words ” if I feel we need somebody and the transfer clock is ticking, I will spend the money” We finally have somebody like this and we are bagging him because of his wimbledon days. AT LEAST THAT TEAM WAS SUCCESSFUL!! Hoofball was big in the period, it was england’s style.
    Plus, get off Torq’s and Prouds backs!! they didn’t see it coming, plus we may still get that european advisor, keep it together!
    And if I am wrong and we end up signing rubbish and play rubbish, then we can go mental! Keep the faith till 2 September and then lets decide whether to go crazy in a GOOD or BAD way!

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  • manxpie

    Jun 17, 2013 at 1:29 AM

    Comment #34

    schwefelberg it does seriously boggle the mind like maybe it is just to get lamearse away from the actual transfer dealings but wat jfk has come out with 2day makes me think he’s seriously deluded and i’m also thinking that because there’s no official news yet jfk might be getting a good telling of for that interview (i’m hoping) it might even finish it before it gets started because everything he said can be absolutly torn apart by the press which even lamearse has learnt not to put himself in such a position all in all fckin bonkers!!

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  • donkey

    Jun 17, 2013 at 1:30 AM

    Comment #35

    is JK worse than AP ? why could we not get sombody like hoddle as director of football JK LOOKS LIKE A HEART ATTACK WAITING TO HAPPEN

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  • Sydney Toon

    Jun 17, 2013 at 1:31 AM

    Comment #36

    Mister Tuff

    Classic buddy LOL
    Charles Insomnia still will be remebered as the best moment for JFK, that and actually installing a passion the squad at the time NEVER had.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jun 17, 2013 at 1:38 AM

    Comment #37

    sydney – with this dire turn of events -hiring Joking Ear -I fear my joke with you the other day may come to fruition -ie that the football will be that crap – you definitely will be resuming your Oz national sports of croc hunting and dwarf throwing.

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  • manxpie

    Jun 17, 2013 at 1:45 AM

    Comment #38

    tuff weren’t it the english doin the dwarf throwing lol?

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  • Toonacious T

    Jun 17, 2013 at 1:55 AM

    Comment #39

    sydney- all that sunshine has effected your brain mate. Kinnear said that no team he was manager of has ever got relegated but he was in charge of Luton in 2001 when they went down. He is full of it and the average type of player we tend to try to sign nowadays will quickly gather that I think. In saying that DL is probably worse still. It is another regressive step and I don’t think u can polish a turd mate!

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  • evildick

    Jun 17, 2013 at 1:57 AM

    Comment #40

    I haven’t commented in donkeys years… but this one kept me up all night, actually thought it was a nightmare (made the mistake of reading the blog at about 1am downunder).

    Joe F******* Kinnear seriously does Mike Ashley actually hate us?

    This makes no sense at all, of course the club haven’t even bothered to make a statement yet.

    The day we get rid of these muppets we might actually have a hope of competing again.

    Disgusted that that horrible foul mouthed buffoon is on our clubs payroll. What an absolute disgrace.

    Can not wait for the day we get rid of these idiots.

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