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Alan Pardew Still in Shock And Stunned Silence

6:20 pm, Tuesday, June 18th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 310 Comments

It was finally made official around mid-day today and yes – it’s indeed correct – Joe Kinnear is back as the second senior executive at Newcastle as our new Director of Football – alongside Derek LLambias – who it turns out didn’t resign – as Joe had suggested yesterday.

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Mike Ashley – what was he thinking?

So it seems that Alan is paying for his bad year last season, but the sack may have been easier to take than having to work for Joe Kinnear.

One problem with Joe, and he has many problems as he has amply  demonstrated over the last two days, , is that he has a huge ego – and will probably take over a lot of the public duties with the press.

Joe could even become the manager early in the season, if we have bad start, but surely his heart condition will prevent that from happening?

And it was very noticeable in the short statement issued by Newcastle today that the person most affected by Joe’s appointment – Alan Pardew – was not quoted.

Alan didn’t even toe the party line – that he was happy to be working with Joe Kinnear.

But no – there was nothing – not even this from Alan Pardew – which we half expected if Joe had got his way:

“I am delighted to be working with Joe Kinnear, who tells me he is one of the best football men in the world, and regularly talks with Sir Alex Ferguson and other top managers around the world.”

“He tells me he gave debuts to Andy Carroll at Newcastle in 2006, and brought in Tim Krul back in 2005 – and that’s something – since he didn’t arrive at Newcastle until September, 2008, but that’s how good Joe is.”

“So it seems my new boss knows what he’s talking about.” “And we all know that Newcastle would not have been relegated back in 2009, if Joe hadn’t had that heart problem.”

“In fact Joe tells me Newcastle would have finished in mid-table at least – back in 2009 – and I believe him – because he’s my new boss.”

It’s hard to think of a worse decision that Mike Ashley has made at Newcastle – although there probably are some – but here is another example of Mike not caring one little bit about what Newcastle fans think – he seems to go out of his way to upset the fans – who after all are his customers.

This is not a good day for Newcastle fans – that we have somebody as unprofessional as Joe Kinnear as a top executive at Newcastle United, and he is going to be the new face of Newcastle in the transfer market?

Heaven help us.

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310 responses so far ↓

  • 1 TurkishFan101 // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    Repost:

    @tequilamag

    “Turkishfan, fair enough, if you choose not to go to the games because you are so incensed about the current set up that is your choice and I respect it, I will not buy a Newcastle top with Wonga on it as I feel the same way. My issue is that you are denigrating other supporters who still choose to go to the games. It is not for you me or anybody else to rank people on how good are supporter they are.”

    I understand where you are coming from and how you have a correct view on me picking out the fans who look for positive outcomes. But positive outcomes will only come when their is a commitment shown of passion, ambition and respect for us fans and the club.

    You say stay behind the club, but their is only one agenda here and that wont change. We will keep losing the better players as they go for a club that wants to A) Win Cups B) Show positive communication C) Get the fans related and ask them for some advice and get involved D) The players here like Ben Arfa are here for only one reason and that’s cause of us passionate fans and how we stay by his side even when he was out injured for nearly 2 seasons. Do you think he would leave without repaying the club? I don’t think so, only possible way he is leaving our club is if a very big offer comes in and Ben Arfa will be forced out. I see him as our future Director Of Football for some reason or even coach. His got that passionate ambition of not leaving us fans half way through our commitment and our target of getting back to winning silverware and cups.

    I hope you understand, as long as we continue to the current regime and keep on spending on their merchandise, we wont get no where, we we be laughed at even more. We need to boycott going to matches in order to save our club and at least look to something for once in our lives as “Looking forward to this season, can’t wait so excited, our owner, our manager, our players, our staff. Amazing that we finally got an ambitious owner” till that day comes I wont give up. All we have been doing in our lives is work, work, work, pay tax, pay bills, barely go out with the lads, all have gone their separate ways so please. Join us and boycott till they leave.

    I understand we got players to support, but supporting a player in bad morale yourself and the way that they are told to play football on pitch to be hoofing around all over. It is a very hard achievement to boycott but I believe we could unite altogether as toon fans and make them leave.

  • 2 Santon03 // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    talking about potential managers, I would love to have Luigi Delneri as manager.

  • 3 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    Santon
    Transfers is his only role mate

    Oh and massive Lol Ed!

  • 4 kevymartins // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    I do believe the club needs someone in charge of transfers but after thinking about it. It could have been a very wise decision to promote car to DOF.

  • 5 Tommyy // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    Newcastle will seemingly never be a professionally run outfit.

  • 6 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    Ed hahahaha thats class and i believe pardumb could come out with that.

  • 7 Edd Case // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    AP will surely leave.
    Can’t see him getting along with JK – but that’s perhaps the point.

    Ashley hoping AP will leave, thus saving him compensation.

    Ashley brings in Lee Clarke perhaps, local lad, will then make fans happy again and we forget about JK, who’s role get’s made smaller and smaller…

    Could this be a clever move by Ashley?

  • 8 JP...from The Rock // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:31 PM

    To say I am depressed about this situation is a huge understatement.

  • 9 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:31 PM

    Great…so now our own blog is repeating spurious comments about our own staff…

    Kinnear never claimed to give Carroll his debut, he claimed to give him his first home start, which is true. Versus West Ham in January 2009.

  • 10 Edd Case // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    You might be technically right on that small point however, did he buy Krul – no, but he says he did.
    Explain that one…

    And then try to explain ALL of the other cock-up-claims made by JK

  • 11 jonobbad // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:34 PM

    Tds
    Give it a rest.
    JFK is a waste of space.

  • 12 NUFCarter // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:34 PM

    Every NUFC fan has to watch this!
    A great and comic reaction to Joe Kinnears interview!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97-p_hFsFao

  • 13 jonobbad // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    Actually ed case @10 put it better.

  • 14 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    The bloke says alot of things about 3% of it is normally true

  • 15 leeb1982 // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    Im another who has had enough of what’s going on at our club and have unwillingly decided not to renew. I don’t blame people who decide to keep going. But if the same people roll up week in week out and buy new tops buy food and drink at the games then things will never improve. Ashley is delighted that he can hire cr@p who are unemployed pay them peanuts compared to quality managers who have options other than us and still get 50000 who keep the profits rolling. So if people are happy to go along like this then fair enough but I have had enough and ain’t gonna come on here and moan about the state of our club and then continue to fund his advertising space. How many protests have been done now? Do they care? No.

  • 16 shamsoftabriz // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    Pardew is a smart manager. Professional, committed, and forward-thinking. In other words, he’s not the kind of manager Ashley can tolerate. If this is some ploy to get him out the door, it reflects poorly on Ashley’s judgment. It may ALSO get Carr out the door, which would leave us pretty much FUBAR. Pardew could have bolted for greener pastures when things were all sunshine and roses last year, but he didn’t. He committed to us. What a stupid way to treat a good manager. That’s what Ashley does…he treats good people badly. Ask Chris Hughton.

  • 17 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    Edd Case

    I’m not even going to try and explain the rest. But he’s perfectly capable of making an idiot of himself without us giving him a helping hand…

  • 18 Belfast // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    If he toes the party line this time he really is a mug.

  • 19 TurkishFan101 // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    Joke In Here players sold in total in his whole career and that is 54 players £31m.

    Alan Pardew’s first season here and he sold 1 player Andy Carroll “£35m + addons”

    This Joke In Here claims he is world best negotiator and how he bangs on about he sold “I sold X Y and Z to these clubs and made massive profits”

    Dumb twat, even though Andy Carroll was not given a choice by Pardew, he was sold under him. So who wins? Pardew first season here £35m profit. I have not added all the other players that have gone under Pardew.

    Joke In Here whole career profit of £31m.

    Director Of Fottball hey?

    What about Director Of Comedy :)

  • 20 JP...from The Rock // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    What a bunch of clowns we have running this club, it looks like Pardew is the most professional of the lot. I feel sorry for him having to be so undermined publically.

    Sad times ahead indeed :(

    These sort of things in our beloved club makes me want to quit football altogether and watch some other sport, honestly. I can’t bare support another football team and I can’t stand the shite we have to endure with this club any longer. If it ends in tears which is the most likely I will seriously consider my hobbies and interests.

    If I feel sick and I can only imagine how Pardew must feel. Poor old Sir Bobby must be trying to pull all sorts of strings from the heavens to save us from this latest mess we’re in.

  • 21 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    NUFCarter
    Quality mate!!
    “Derek lamwhat!!! Lambreezy is that geezer slang talk”
    Lol

  • 22 Hatem's better than Messi // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    If Kinnear is based at Benton … he’s bound to interfere with training and get involved in tactics and plans for the opposition.
    Unless his office faces the car park or has no windows.
    I bet he’s already ironed JFK onto a Wonga tracksuit.

    Pardew’s screwed. I wanted Pardew out because of the hoofball. I guess Kinnear will play 442 and buy wingers and forwards?
    Not a lot we can do about this except watch with disbelief and open mouths as the second act of this tragicomedy unfolds.

  • 23 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    Ed, you obviously missed the last paragraph of Pards’s statement,

    ” As everyone knows having managed less games than myself, and having won a manager of the year award and imagining another 2, Joe is the most experienced footballing man at the club. He has also had great success in a similar role at Oxford and Luton according to himself, before making himself manager of Luton and avoiding relegation. “

  • 24 tequilamag // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    Turkishfan, I respect your opinion but think that a boycott would serve no purpose as I don`t see how it would make the slightest bit of difference. MA has the hide of an elephant and has proved time after time he cares little for what the fans think. The one time he tried to curry favour it backfired spectacularly and based on the reaction he got after KK was sacked would be bloody minded enough to stick to his guns and if that hacked off the supporters he would not lose any sleep over it.

  • 25 jonobbad // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:42 PM

    Nufcarter
    Only 5 mins through so far but that guy is funny as f**k.

  • 26 Edd Case // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    JK is a bloody idiot with a bad attitude, appalling vocabulary and an out of date and out of touch footballing knowledge.

    He is a complete and utter PR disaster and a volcanic eruption of incompetence just waiting to erupt.

    Like Balotelli once famously said….

    “We always me?”

    Just apply that to NUFC…

    “Why always NUFC?”

  • 27 Yorkgeordie // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    How many ‘directors of football’ can you name? Fact is they are largely anonymous and carry on their work in the background. The best thing Kinnear can do is follow suit and stop giving interviews. If he does this we might be able to kid ourselves he isn’t there.

  • 28 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    Repost before I head off

    DarnSarf

    We simply disagree. He’s insulted the fans and misrepresented the club by coming across like a deluded old fool.

    If decent on field performances is all it takes to placate you then I am afraid we will not see much change at our club in the foreseeable future.

    If you would rather Pardew as opposed to an ambitious young manager with modern ideas, and if you would rather JFK than a specialised Director of Football with modern contacts in the game then that’s your prerogative.

  • 29 Belfast // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    Kinnear is travelling to all the games with the first team squad aswell.

    They’d need to be best mates for this farce to work, cant see it myself.

    Think Kinnear could probably be in charge before the season kicks off.

  • 30 JP...from The Rock // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    If we didn’t have problems with moral and team spirit in the dressing room with this latest twat on board we definitely will! He’s barely been here a couple of days and already has upset so many people. Most noticeably Sammy Ameobi with his tweet.

  • 31 foggonridiculous // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    Re-post

    I think many of us are in a state of shock.

    JFK back at Toon is a fait accompli

    I am not as “gen-ed” up as the eloquent Toon darn sarf who makes some valid, reasoned points on financial matters and I accept that we have to live within our means but …and isn’t this the point…could we not have done better than the two appointments of AP and JFK?
    Giving AP an unprecedented 8 year deal, rather than 3 or 4, was another error.

    Other clubs seem able to do their homework and come up with competent managers.
    Swansea have had a succession of, apparently, successful managers of late ..and seem solvent.
    David Moyes achieved a degree of success and stayed
    within Everton’s cash restraints.

    Paul Lambert got Norwich back in the top flight and seems to have steadied the ship at Villa.

    Just as there are players that are a good fit for the toon..surely to God there is a manager out there with potential who – like Moyes, Lambert, Martinez did a job for “not-top-six outfits” – could do a job for us instead of MA taking what looks like a gambler’s punt on a mate..

    I accept that Keegan – like JFK – had long been out of the game before he managed us.

    I also think Llambias – did us (and himself) no favours with future transfer negotiations after his drunken rant about how Mike had done Liverpool up like kippers over the Carroll deal…even if every word was true…

    As for Steven Taylor – it probably wasn’t his best quote…but we would have been in even more trouble if he had let the Police look into how he ended up needing his jaw wired after an (alleged) coming together with Andy Carroll.

    We are where we are…I hope it works out and does not end up as another opportunity missed.
    Fingers crossed…prayer mats out…it’s business as usual at SJP!

  • 32 woolerbill // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    NO PLACE TO GO, NO PLACE TO HIDE
    ASHLEY’S MANAGEMENT do not have a C.V between them to take a team forward, just a holding one till he can sell. He can afford to do this as he TV money and 52,000
    of us with some 32,000,000 to fill his pocket, he laughing all the way to the bank.

  • 33 Rotonda heights // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    Toon darn sarf

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1571530-mauricio-pochettinos-surging-southampton-continues-revival

    No he wasn’t. Pochettino actually came in and saved Espanyol from relegation and yes the way he has his teams playing I’d have him in a heartbeat.

    Phoenix

    Football is an international language, Pochettino being a case in point.. you sound a bit xenophobic there my friend

  • 34 toon22 // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    Imo we dont have to worry about JK as a manager of the team,he almost died last time and it isnt the first time he has had a heart attack at work.
    And secondly he claims to be a good football manager but that isnt the job he has take at SJP is it….

  • 35 lukes26 // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:50 PM

    I’m not going to join Ed in appeasing the blood-thirsty mob.

    This is obviously an attempt to amend the weaknesses that Pardew is perceived to have, especially in integrating Carr’s transfers into his “system”.

    Ashley trusts JK. And for a delicate situation as this, you need someone you can trust.

    Pardew was MOTY 2 seasons ago. He does have ability. This season just illustrated his weaknesses.

    Ed needs to stop following the lynch mob. Jesus, nothing he’s said has been so horrible. Grow up.

  • 36 Yorkgeordie // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:50 PM

    Oh and another thing, If Kinnear has so little respect for Geordies, if he hates us so much, why has he taken the job? Answer, because no other club on the planet would give him a job. Think of it, in 9 years (apart from his last spell with us) how many jobs have cropped up in football in England and how many short lists has he been on?

  • 37 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    Given it’s Ed’s blog, I do think he can write what he wants…and could he be proffering his own opinion rather than appeasing anyone? God forbid he gave us his own thoughts…

    Anyway, I’m really off now

  • 38 NUFCarter // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    TDS
    apparently glenn roeder gave andy carroll his home debut in 2007 when he was 17 as ED said earlier. NOT kinnear.

  • 39 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    Ruddy

    Honestly, I think we want the same thing at the club. I’d love to see a young up and coming manager at the club who wants to grow with it. Someone like Laudrup (if he could replicate his performance this season) or Martinez (if he could figure out how to set up a defence), but I would worry about an unproven appointment as they could end up being a flash in the pan or just plain terrible from the start. Hindsight is great but there are no guarantees in appointing a manager.

    And yeah, I’d rather see many other people ahead of JFK in the DoF role, but I don’t have that choice sadly.

    I’m hoping that JFK gets rid of the dead wood, signs some corkers, Pardew guides us to consecutive top 8 finishes in the next 2 seasons (the minimum we should expect), the club unearths some young talent, and then Ashley sells the (debt free) club to someone who can take it forward so he, Pardew, Llambias and JFK can f off.

    I’m not saying it’s great at the moment, but I do think it’s the only way to get where we want to do…it will hurt more before it gets better…

  • 40 NUFCarter // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    ruddy
    Agreed. his blog hes in control so he can say what ever he likes.

  • 41 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    Tds, are you jfk in disguise? because you seem to stick up for him alot with no reasoning whatsoever. The mans a d*ck.

    Hatems better than messi, spot on, i dread to think what players he will buy, its as bad as all those on here calling for wingers and a striker, We get a brilliant 4-3-3 where we are just a few forwards short, and all of a sudden its back to 4-4-2, then they appoint this tool who knows nothing but 4-4-2. At least pards tried to work on a different formation. I can see it now, arfa or ‘afra’ will be sold, well sign downing or some tool, carroll or another similar big forward and back to 4-4-2 we got, and relegation here we come. Absolute disgrace, what we needed was a technical advisor to help Pards develop the 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 to make it more effective and help set pieces, not this pathetic excuse for a fool brought in to take us backwards. What we need is a striker as comeptition/backup for cisse, and another FORWARD, not an oldschool winger from the 90’s, to play on the left and cut in and intertwine with arfa to create chances for Cisse inside and around the box, Ideally playing the ball on the ground and running at the defenders, although a decent cross would be nice, but not essential.

  • 42 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    NUFCarter

    Home start, not debut. He may well have come on as a sub for Roeder, but he didn’t start.

  • 43 lukes26 // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    agreed. i was out of line.

    my apologies.

    Im joe kinnear btw

  • 44 NUFCarter // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    oh start. sorry i was wrong.

  • 45 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    foggonridiculous

    The problem with those managers you mention mate, is that for every Moyes or Martinez, you’ve got flash in the pans like Keane, Bruce or Jewell.

    It’s early days for Laudrup and Lambert.

    I really really really hope that JFK doesn’t end up as manager for this club! I’d like better than Pardew, but I KNOW we could do better than JFK!

  • 46 NUFCarter // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    Furthermore……

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYXIGXk8jS4

  • 47 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    foggonridiculous

    Oh…and I wouldn’t worry about that 8 year deal, it’s bound to have all sorts of clauses in it. The reason he’s done it would be to increase the value of the club. Keegan left initially because the reason they wanted him to sign a long-term contract immediately was for the same reason.

    It definitely doesn’t mean that Pardew will be around for the next 7 years if we’re in the bottom half again…

  • 48 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    Rotonda

    http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2012/11/26/3558336/pochettino-agrees-to-terminate-espanyol-contract

  • 49 toon22 // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    AP really cant say much till he has spoken to JK,if he has any sense unlike JK,he shouldnt say anything to the media.
    Why would you bother with the media on this issue im sure AP has lots of thoughts but im also sure he should keep them to himself.Its not after a match where there are rules to give interviews.
    Why did JK jump into the media circus he created for himself?As a DOF you would think he would have enough sense not to give an interview where you are asked lots of leading questions.In fact has anyone ever even heard of a DOF give such an interview even forgetting the insults and obvious mis truths.

  • 50 foggonridiculous // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    TDS

    take your point but I did say: “like”

    I accept it is not an exact science…but it doesn’t even look like we have even tried.

    Mike pulling out old bar receipts and ringing the numbers scrawled on them is just plain lazy…and will surely just end up causing him more grief in the long run.

    his club…his rules…

  • 51 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    Ruddy

    I wrote something good and helpful and useful that made it clear that we are pulling in the same direction and it didn’t post…damn.

    Anyway, it ended with something like Pardew guiding us to consecutive top 10 finishes, so Ashley can sell a debt free club to someone who can take this club forward and Ashley, Llambias, Pardew and JFK can then f**k off and let better people take over.

    No idea what happened to the original post…

  • 52 IssedPoff // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:08 PM

    Ed your twisting Kinnears words. He said, he give Carroll his first home start (start not debue) which he did, on 10 January 2009. Where Carroll scored against West Ham. The rest is crap though.

  • 53 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:08 PM

    Ruddy

    I wrote something good and helpful and useful that made it clear that we are pulling in the same direction and it didn’t post…damn.

    Anyway, it ended with something like Pardew guiding us to consecutive top 10 finishes, so Ashley can sell a debt free club to someone who can take this club forward and Ashley, Llambias, Pardew and JFK can then get lost (erm was this blocked before for using an f and an *?) and let better people take over.

    No idea what happened to the original post…other than my suggestion above…

  • 54 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    Williamson

    Yeah, he is! But now he’s our d*ck…

  • 55 Tommyy // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    According to Kinnear. Himself and Pardew had lunch today to talk about objectives. If that’s the case we should be hearing from Pardew soon. I hope he refused to go though.

  • 56 foggonridiculous // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    TDS

    ..so why do an 8 year deal?

    …clauses or not….smacks of trying to be clever.

    Just looks daft…even Reading fans were chanting :

    “8 year deal…? You’re having a laugh…”

    other clubs don’t seem to need them.

    Not saying I could run the club but name one other club doing 8 year deals?…see my point?

  • 57 toon22 // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    Spain just won the U21s how many of the players do you think JK can pronounce?

  • 58 hadthetshirt // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    I am still shell shocked.The only thing I can think of is ashley’s a makem

  • 59 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    foggonridiculous

    I agree mate, it would be great if we could. But the problem is, we can only have one manager at a time. It’s not like we can have 5 strikers, let them all go to training and play the best 2 and consider selling another one.

    So we have to make the best appointment and then back them to get the success. Or we could just hire and fire them based on each season which:
    a) is expensive
    b) does not guarantee success

    Who knows…maybe either Pardew will turn out to be as good as Moyes or we’ll appoint someone else who will.

    This time last year, some fans were honestly worried that a top club would poach Pardew!!

  • 60 John Tudor // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    i have a cruise ship, the magician is crap .this season my ship is a 1/4 full will i loose money

  • 61 John Tudor // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    should i employ a stripper or a comedian to pull in the punters or just sell up

  • 62 toon22 // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    AP wont make a statement he really dont need to be part of this circus,the media will just try and string the story out all summer.

    Its best for the club if everyone just shuts up and get the club to release a glib statement saying the obvious.

    It seems were stuck with the whole situation so for me its time the get on with it and exclude th e media.

  • 63 IssedPoff // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    JT. Depends what the bands like. Who’s worried about 45 mins of loosy entertainment, when there is a good bar and the second act is good.

  • 64 John Tudor // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    bands crap too shite seems boycotts do work

  • 65 foggonridiculous // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    TDS

    I don’t believe I sugggested some sort of BGT for a Manager…but even that would be a more scientific approach than “Who got the last round in?”

    Man U did their homework on Ferguson… who could have been a flash in the pan…Everton, bless them, did their homework on Moyes…Wenger went through a selection process….surely you are not arguing that this could not have been handled better/

    Anyway it is all academic. What’s done is done..

    which direction is mecca?

  • 66 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    foggonridiculous

    Name one other club run by a man with a history of running his businesses in such a tight way as to wring every single possible penny of revenue and valuation that is possible.

    If Mike Ashley found out that his Sports Direct staff were using too many sheets of toilet paper, he’d probably have his lackeys issue an edict on how many they are allowed to use…

    The 8 years would just be a boost to the valuation for anyone purchasing the club. The club is just a series of assets when you look at it in the business sense. The stadium, staff, players, training ground etc. etc.

    Staff (like players) are valued less as an asset if their contract is running down. I’m not an expert on that side of things but I run my own business so I know enough there. Obviously if the new owner wanted to put his own man in, then he might consider the long contract as a potential debt as he knows he’d have to pay it off.

    Anyway, the rumour is that he’s on £500kpa with large incentives. I reckon his contract will have clauses allowing him to be sacked if he doesn’t get top half.

  • 67 jazzyp // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    andy carrol to have a medical at west ham tomorrow.
    that’s another one put to bed

  • 68 p // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:19 PM

    Gus Poyet

  • 69 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    TDS, you may consider him ‘our d*ck’, but i certainly do not, there is a big difference between being given a job and being accepted, and i dont think he ever will be accepted, because he simply does not have a clue, has no merit for the job, and will no doubt look to bring in big lumps of players with a lack of any technical ability to suit a 4-4-2, which i dont see many fans accepting. And thats just his suitability for the job, without considering his personal qualities. I for one will not class him as our’s, and there is a very slim chance i ever will, as he’s an embarressment to the club, the manager, the players, and shouln’t even be associated with NUFC. The more that is done by fans to get rid of him the better, cause if enough is done, by enough united fans, it may actually work. I just wonder whether all of his lie’s to the interviews are what he told MA to get the job in the first place, and whether MA might realise he’s been fed a load of bull and get rid, here’s to hoping.

  • 70 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    foggonridiculous

    Yep. But the point I was making is that for every one of those you list, there were loads of failures. We all know that Ferguson nearly got sacked after a few years, Moyes has nearly been relegated at least twice. It’s only in hindsight that we can judge them as fantastic managers for those clubs.

    Who knows if we’ve let a fantastic potential manager pass us by, and potentially out of the game, in the past…

  • 71 joeinthecheapseats // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    Just listened to talk sport and they reckon they will be getting Andy Carroll and Demba Ba for this campaign
    Be a handful for any team
    We are stuck with JFK what a joke

  • 72 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    Williamson

    I’m accepting it because I don’t have a choice at the moment. I’ll give him a chance because that’s the right thing to do. But if he signs ****ing Carlton Cole, then I’ll get my fuzzy haired voodoo doll out…

  • 73 IssedPoff // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    TDS, and Ashley pays is employees no bonuses????????

  • 74 joeinthecheapseats // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    West Ham forgot to put that in the text

  • 75 toon22 // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    Poyet is another joke,he really hasnt done anything.It would be another manager just picked out of the blue.No selection process no thinking it over.Just another roll of MA dice…

    The only thing we should wish for is an owner who wants a football club and not an asset to buy cheap and sell expensive.

  • 76 foggonridiculous // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    TDS

    You’re not making sense.. you can’t have it both ways:

    if the contract is full of clauses and not worth worrying about then how can it add to the value of the club.

    You don’t need to be confrontational – I didn’t say he was a financial moron … clearly he isn’t – BUT it remains my opinion that this could and should have been handled better…

    You didn’t name the other clubs handing out 8 yaer contracts BTW :-)

  • 77 jazzyp // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    joeinthecheapseats

    are we talking west ham’s strike force for next season.
    don’t worry mate we still have the mackem slayer and Jonas!!

  • 78 scout // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    I guess just wait and see who Joe gets over the line, all this cr.p about purples. Just get 2 wingers and 2 strikers in. It’s glaringly simple, I give Kinnear credit for that, he can see what Pardew can’t. Who cares if he pronounces the names incorrectly, didn’t seem to bother anyone when SBR done it.
    Just remember, Ashley has the cash and could quickly turn things around with some quality signings. If someone wants to leave because Kinnear can’t say his name they should go back to school really

  • 79 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    Interesting to look at the history of Premier League managers…

    How many of these would you have wanted at our club?

    Even Spurs screwed up with Juande Ramos before funding Redknapp’s spending spree…

  • 80 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    Sorry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Premier_League_managers

  • 81 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:27 PM

    IssedPoff

    From what I understand, Ashley’s contracts are usually highly focussed on incentivised bonuses.

  • 82 IssedPoff // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:27 PM

    Bloody hell I’m a pessimist who take anti-depressives. But I’ll still wait till the end of the transfer market to decide. Tinear probably rang Ashley up for a job. Ashley said “OK.” And has given him enough rope to hang himself.

  • 83 IssedPoff // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    TDS, that’s nowt new. Sales Reps have a low basic and work like hell for percentages and maybe a free holiday as a prize for salesman of the year.

  • 84 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:33 PM

    foggonridiculous

    I didn’t think I was being confrontational, but sorry if it came across like that.

    My point was that Ashley is just the sort of owner to give an 8 year contract out if it might increase the value of the club by even a million. Most other owners aren’t as tight fisted as that.

    For players, the valuation is based on amortisation. So if a player is signed for £10M on a 5 year contract, then after 1 year they are valued at £8M in the books, after 2 years £6M. They can reassess the valuation of the player from time to time, and often agents will want a pay increase to match it (if the valuation goes up). I’m not sure exactly how staff would be valued but it would be along a similar line. Pardew (or the recruiting club) would most likely have to pay up the rest of his contract (rumoured to be £3.5M) if he wanted to leave himself, so perhaps that is Pardew’s value as an asset to the club. Add his backroom staff to this and it’s probably at least double that.

    So Ashley gets a valuable asset for the club (the staff), but also has a way to get rid of them if they underperform. Win win for him and typical of the way he runs his businesses…

  • 85 scout // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:36 PM

    It’s a strange appointment but we have to support him now. Respect the decision and move on. The crackpots on talk s…t saying he should get who the fans want???? What’s that all about its his club, he bought it.
    Do people want a vote or something, we have some decent players considering the fees paid.
    If you don’t like it, don’t go. Simple

  • 86 foggonridiculous // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    TDS

    Fair enough and, clearly, you are something of a financial whiz

    …but my main point is it DOESN’T look as if we tried.

    Maybe we did and were knocked back…. maybe we will one day get a good ‘un and have him poached but for me it’s a bit like him putting a failed JB Sports Manager in charge of one of his Sports Direct Stores instead of looking for an under manager with the potential to take the step up. Hey I can dream can’t I?

  • 87 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    Anyway, I’m off now…tired of swimming against a tidal wave of negativity and I need some food…

    Let’s hope JFK can surprise us all and get some great signings over the line in the next few weeks…

  • 88 foggonridiculous // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    TDS

    Enjoy your food Cay Bab perhaps?

    I don’t consider myself negative… just want better for the club.

  • 89 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    TDS, my worry is that Carlton Cole is just the start of the list, joke’s still stuck in the past he probably thinks Cole’s an exciting young prospect, line up Cole, Bent, Bramble and bridge for our summer transfers.

    And scout are you actually being serious with that comment? where do i start,
    2 wingers and 2 strikers, for what exactly? 4-4-2? you say joke can see what Pards can’t but at least he can spot that we need to move onto a 4-5-1 or 4-3-3. And spotting what we need hasnt been the problem, Pards has always apotted the players we need, and these have not been delivered, with several occasions him having stated what we need in public and being totally undermined and let down, particularly last summer after finishing 5th.

    And if you think its acceptable he should come barging into our club pronouncing players names wrong left and center then i question your morals, certainly to say they should go back to school for taking offence to being insulted by this complete and utter f*ckwit is obsurd! how would you like it in their position? Sir Bobby got away with it because he was older for a start, and secondly he was a respectable gentleman, who people could forgive for his mistakes due to his character as a person, and good nature. Why should they forgive this retard who’s character resembles an old drunk you find mouthing off in the steet because someone p*ssed on his cardboard box!

  • 90 solano // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    Evening “you lot” -fans, tuned-in analysts, dolts, quislings, lemmings and all – has Bills apologised yet?

  • 91 GeordieTwo // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:47 PM

    Very clear Pardew isn’t interested in making a statement at all. I can’t see how he will be able to continue for long. He’s little more than a coach now (if he wasn’t already). If his tactics don’t work to start the new season Kinnear will have him out the door and a mate in his place no doubt. If his heart wasn’t a problem Kinnear would take the position himself.

  • 92 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    Wasn’t referring to you foggonridiculous.

    Appointing Pardew was a bit like marrying the average looking and stable 30 year old who wants to settle down, rather than the stunning 22 year old who could turn out to be hot AND a great wife or could be a complete nightmare…

    Yep I’m off for my Cabab with a nice glass of Lambezi…

  • 93 Tommyy // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    He shouldn’t necessarily get someone who the fans want, but someone the fans and everyone else in football can respect and can see have the required credentials needed to see us improve.

  • 94 cyprus // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    Is Ashley forcing AP out the door??http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130618111304AAJC0dz

  • 95 foggonridiculous // Jun 18, 2013 at 7:55 PM

    TDS

    Thanks for the imagery.

    Enjoy your break!

  • 96 GeordieTwo // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:00 PM

    If appointing Pardew is a bit like marrying the average looking stable 30 year old TDS what is appointing Joe Kinnear like? Inviting your mother in law to move in?

  • 97 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    Yep! The cantankerous old bat who gets on everyone’s nerves but you hope she does the ironing properly…

  • 98 scout // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    After the initial shock I have now calmed down and wish Joe Kinnear all the best. People on here seem to think you need to be a genius to see a good player. I personally think Joe will keep it simple anyone can see what needs doing the players are taking the pi**.
    Some players from the Championship would be an improvement on our makeshift side

  • 99 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:04 PM

    TDS, my worry is that Carlton Cole is just the start of the list, joke’s still stuck in the past he probably thinks Cole’s an exciting young prospect, line up Cole, Bent, Bramble and bridge for our summer transfers.

    And scout are you actually being serious with that comment? where do i start,
    2 wingers and 2 strikers, for what exactly? 4-4-2? you say joke can see what Pards can’t but at least he can spot that we need to move onto a 4-5-1 or 4-3-3. And spotting what we need hasnt been the problem, Pards has always apotted the players we need, and these have not been delivered, with several occasions him having stated what we need in public and being totally undermined and let down, particularly last summer after finishing 5th.

    And if you think its acceptable he should come barging into our club pronouncing players names wrong left right and center then i question your morals, certainly to say they should go back to school for taking offence to being insulted by this complete and utter fcukwit is obsurd! how would you like it in their position? Sir Bobby got away with it because he was older for a start,respected int he footballing community, and secondly he was a respectable gentleman, who people could forgive for his mistakes due to his character as a person, and good nature. Why should they forgive this retard who’s character resembles an old drunk you find mouthing off in the steet because someone peed on his cardboard box!

    And as for your second comment, crackpots on talksport? crackpots for saying Ashley should get someone the fans want? Crackpots for expecting some sort of view on how things should be run when they are the one’s who pay good money to watch games? ill remind you these crackpots are the ones who generate income for the club. And im telling you now, the only crackpots are people like you who support this stupid decision!

  • 100 foggonridiculous // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:05 PM

    The stunning 22 year old would probably be too much for poor Joe’s heart….

    still there are worse ways to go….

  • 101 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:07 PM

    Geordietwo – Signing your house and all your belongings over to the local prositute!

  • 102 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:09 PM

    TDS, that comment about the mother in-law made me laugh! just hope she leaves the daily chores the the wife and sticks to sitting on the sofa watching deal or no deal, providing this doesnt provide any incentives on how to go about her transfer business…

  • 103 cyprus // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/10125334/Many-questions-need-answering-following-Newcastles-appointment-of-Joe-Kinnear-as-director-of-football.html

  • 104 cyprus // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    TDS :)

  • 105 toon kk // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    We over rate our mediocre team, we would struggle in the championship. Imo we’re a lazy side with no pace. We have a FEW gifted players which are wasted under Pardew. We should give JK a chance to see who he brings in. After all we can’t get much worse we were nearly relegated.

  • 106 one Tony Green // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    Ed you are such a stirrer. Sick of talking about this but hey ED you will be making plenty of money from the extra traffic.

  • 107 Bearsize // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    The only thing i worry about is who they would appoint as next manager after pards. Could only be dennis wise. Nnnnnnooooooo!!!!!!

  • 108 foggonridiculous // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    Great mother-in-law analogy….

    it’s the disapproving looks and the comments that
    “Her girl could have done SO much better”

    that really hurt….

  • 109 Bearsize // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    Please jfk, write sholas P45!!!

  • 110 Williamson is Bramble in disguise // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    One tony green, if youre sick of talking about it, shut the fcuk up! Ed is entitled to write about whatever he wants, it’s his blog and no-one else’s. If you dont like it you dont have to read it, let alone comment critisising Ed for making the effort to write the article!

    Bearsize, if this turns out to be a ploy to get Pard’s out and they appoint Wise as manager i promise to march into SJP and personally remove the bunch of them from existance, JFK is one step too far, Dennis Wise get’s appointed and there will be trouble! lol, but on a sidenote please dont joke, Ashley might read this and start getting idea’s on how he can pee us off even more!

  • 111 yo-yo // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    I think the best option IS to find Joe a 22 yr old.
    How old is Mashley’s daughter ?

  • 112 yo-yo // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    or he could trawl through the effin mature dating ads that keep poppping up on here

  • 113 Ibizatoon // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    yo-yo…Now there’s an idea….mind, how are we getting a 22 year old interested in Kinnear?

    Don’t think Ashleys daughter is short of a few quid….

  • 114 Bearsize // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    Lol good thinking williamson. Message recieved loud and clear, radio silence from now ha! Shola is poo!

  • 115 LeedsMag // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    Afraid I just cant give Kinnear a a chance,irrespective of results.The guy is an egotistical buffoon with a major personality disorder – just look at what the rest of the world thinks about his appointment and rants – only been in the job 24 hrs – the most appropriate analysis of Kinnear ,the role and Ashley came from respected rugby men Brian Moore and John Taylor in the run up to the Lions match on talk sport this morning.
    In short,we will never have any respect or credibility with these idiots in charge.
    I for one am fed up of seeing my beloved team and city dragged through the mud by a succession of morons.
    Jeez – JFK makes Pardews utterings sound like an Oxford Professor.
    AP and Carr to report directly to JFK – just wait until Carr walks -how many will give JFK a chance then

  • 116 woodsee // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:27 PM

    Out of all the twisted thngs Ashley has done,this just about tops the lot.I love goin to the games,but I honestly now believe if we ever want to get through to this clown ,the only way is first home game for the team to run out to an empty stadium,can you imagine the worldwide reation

  • 117 Ibizatoon // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:28 PM

    Does anybody know when the players are due back to training?

    The only two players that have made comment about Kinnear are Sammy and STaylor….mind, the club only commented today as well :)

  • 118 aidytoon9 // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    This will all come to a head very soon as if pardew has any balls about him he will walk away.Yes he will be missing out on some £ but he will get a job else where without any problems.Keegan didn’t put up with the crap.
    it looks to me that Ashley wants pardew to walk.
    When will this club ever learn to be low key and get on with the job in a professional manner.
    joe wants pardew to bounce things off him?
    He will travel on bus to games?
    He will have final say on transfers, his words first time around?
    He is very much a pr failure and all this is dragging the club down even more.

  • 119 BandB // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    Solano

    On the glorious when Ashley sells SJP to the university to create student flats to serve the science park, and announces he’s looking for a deal to play our home games at the Stadium of Light on alternate Saturdays, around 14 per cent of our contributors will seamlessly throw their weight behind it.
    People have become fatalistic. Its the “Warren of the Shining Wires” syndrome from Watership Down. Another outrage happens, and you just find a new way to suggest it is for the best. The one thing you don’t do, is question it, for this is “how life is.”
    For the under-thirties, who make up most of this blog, the shit-sandwich is a fact of life. People of my age can’t complain. My lousy generation made them.

  • 120 woodsee // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    On another point,ive a feelin we will see less new shirts being worn than ever before,they have been out for a while now ,and ive seen 1

  • 121 scout // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    Crying out for 2 wingers. Have you seen our lack of options in wide areas. Mate, you could write your tactical knowledge on the back of a stamp. Get 2 wingers and 2 strikers, it’s that simple, 442 at home, 451 away from home.

  • 122 Belfast // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    So is he on talksport again tomorrow morning, or is that just rubbish ?

  • 123 woodsee // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    I wouldn’t trust jokin ear to direct me to the ground,from the strawberry

  • 124 ITUNDERASHELL // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    lt could be Carr is disillusioned because Pardew doesn’t want to play a modern continental game and Graham Carr does.

    Llambias hasn’t a clue about football, only finance, therefore we have a DOF. If JFK buys into Carr’s football philosophy Pardewwill have to adapt or leave.

    If Carr and Kinnier share the same football vision the club would only need to bring in a top coach/manager who shares the vision and we can move towards an exciting future.

    Lets pray Ashley has done his homework!

  • 125 scout // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    Tell you what bringing Ashley’s daughter into it is terrible lads, get a look at yer sel man.

  • 126 Ibizatoon // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    Belfast…Was just thinking he’s been fairly quiet today….

    Was also thinking that he best get himself on twitter a.s.a.p.

  • 127 Belfast // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    He should really just walk away, but he wont.

    If his ego is as big as everybody says it is, he’ll be f***** fuming like lol

  • 128 armchair fan // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    Lets hope we can keep Hatem Ben Affleck

  • 129 Belfast // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    I’m nearly sure I seen somebody say he’s on the Alan Brazil show in the morning. Hopefully it’s rubbish.

  • 130 archaeomag // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    ED – Good satire – you finally cracked!!!

  • 131 Ibizatoon // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:41 PM

    scout….Come on now, it was a light hearted joke and didn’t really bring Ashleys daughter into anything.

  • 132 archaeomag // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    Ok Alan it’s time we had a little chat:
    What is Constructive Dismissal?
    Constructive Dismissal is where an employer has committed a serious breach of contract, entitling the employee to resign in response to the employer’s conduct. The employee is entitled to treat him or herself as having been “dismissed” and the employer’s conduct is often referred to as a “repudiatory breach”.

    It is not enough to show merely that the employer has behaved unreasonably – it must be a fundamental breach of the implied term of trust and confidence between the employer and employee. Furthermore, the employee must have left because of the breach and must make it clear when he resigns that he regards himself as having been “constructively dismissed”. Furthermore, the employee must be careful not to waive the breach. This can happen where there is a long delay in resigning in response to their employer’s breach- or anything which signals an acceptance of the breach.

    Examples of breaches of contract by an employer entitling an employee to claim constructive dismissal include:

    Reduction in pay
    Demotion without reason
    Unreasonable disciplining of the employee
    **Complete change in the nature of the job**
    Harassing or humiliating the employee

    http://www.lzwlaw.co.uk/documents/employment_law_cd.htm

  • 133 aidytoon9 // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    This is the time when we should be looking forward to seeing some new players coming in not being served this crap from the club.
    Everyone is laughing at us man!

  • 134 scout // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    Maybe but left the door open for a pea brain to finish the joke

  • 135 scout // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    Luckily the Mackems are laughing from a lower finishing position, to be fair. They have nowt to shout about trust me

  • 136 Belfast // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    Surely if Pardew new all about it, they could of got a couple of quotes of him to put in the statement ?

    It’s all very strange.

  • 137 GeordieTwo // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:47 PM

    I would think Kinnear will already be thinking about replacements for Pardew to recommend to Ashley. Who might they be? Main qualifications:
    1. must be a dinosaur from a previous football era
    2. must love hard knock players like Vinny the enforcer
    3. must be incapable of pronouncing anyone’s name
    4. must be eager to set the press straight with foul mouthed rants
    Who could possibly fit the bill except Joe himself?

  • 138 Rotonda heights // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    ITUNDERASHELL

    Think you may have something there. Carr keeps bringing great skillful players suited to a modern pass and move approach and that is hardly Pardew’s game as the long ball stats show.

    Sad thing is JFK is the old Wimbledon manager and we all know what that meant.

  • 139 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    Does anyone know where Ashley got all of these Wimbledon friends?

    He obviously knows/ is friends with these people like Kinnear and Wise but how exactly?

    ….I won’t start on him just appointing mates…..

  • 140 Rotonda heights // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    Band B

    good to see you back

  • 141 yo-yo // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    scout

    Bringing JFK into it is terrible.
    Ashley’s daughter might be our saviour from a fate worse than Pardew

    Anyway lads look at the upside at least we all know for sure now how low Mashley’s aspirations are for our club.

    BandB
    Agree you can fool some of the people all of the time but
    I’m of your generation and never made a shite sandwich for anyone

  • 142 aidytoon9 // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    It’s seems a long time ago when we finished 5th! That summer I was so exited to see what players we would bring in as I felt with a few more quality players we could finish top 4.
    I am hoping that I will be proved wrong and this all goes swimmingly.

  • 143 scout // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Friends close, enemies closer……

  • 144 yo-yo // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Geordie Two

    Joe Kinnear’s tactics were…

    http://blog.sfgate.com/soccer/files/2012/10/gazza.jpeg

  • 145 wolfshead@toon // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    its a bit boring without a jfk rant :-)

  • 146 vic2810 // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Wonder if it was wor Joe who made up the story about us bidding for Rooney a few weeks back? He seems to be making plenty of other stuff up!!!

  • 147 GeordieTwo // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    This is a new breed of director of football. Invented by Ashley himself. No quietly working behind the scenes, no learning people’s names, no waiting for an announcement from the club, no quiet analysis of the club before making any statements. Just barge right in there like last time. Offend everyone in sight or within reach of a computer or radio. Tell everyone they’re clueless and if the don’t like it they can eff off. Ashley must be rubbing his hands with glee thinking about all this free publicity.

  • 148 p // Jun 18, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    not sure if this has be said but in that rant, Kinnear says he can open the door to any manager.

    I think he is there to make Pardew walk out

  • 149 GeordieTwo // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    Yes I remember that yo-yo mate @141. I’m sure Gazza does as well.

  • 150 aidytoon9 // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    There has got to be a big announcement soon about a top player coming in! Just anything to make this slightly better.

  • 151 outsidethebox // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    i have to accept i got it wrong ..i was sure jfk was getting his own back on press or else he had lost it …what else could explain 3 days to tell fans about an important position …do nufc have a press officer ? seems not …await first slanging match with pardew ..just a matter of time.

  • 152 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    @ p – I thought that was strange too. He obviously meant it as ringing Ferguson or Wenger for advice but even that is a dig at Pardew implying he needs help.

  • 153 scout // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    We don’t pay the big bucks for players anymore and can’t afford the stupid wages. Hence a top 10 finish is reasonable, that top 5 finish really ruined the plan because we were never going to improve on it regardless of money spent, look at Liverpool they’ve spent fortunes. We will plod on sell a big one, chance our arm with some smaller fish and crack on.
    It’s gonna be the way forward, everyone has a price it’s just the way it is.

  • 154 p // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    @147, someone in the ilk of Robbie Earle perhaps?

  • 155 HullMag6 // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    It’s a toughie lets see what happens. ……

    Laudrup could be the guy if percy bites the bullet. That would be good

    But like I said earlier give it time it might work out for the best. Dekka knows nothing about football so Mike identified a deficiency and dealt with it by getting someone he knows that knows his onions despite being a media car crash. So last season has been put at dekkas door on that basis percy close second. Dekka will just move the money – what he’s good at

  • 156 Jail for Ashley // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    After a few months of reading TDsarf ,not to be confused with TDS and certainly not with tads I have come to find him the most irritatingly smug and annoying poster I have ever read, at least Bills knows his football and contributes to the club and also sounds like he seems willing to finally admit he is wrong where as this new zuber apologist seems to defend Ashleys every move while claiming he would like to see him replaced, it has been blatantly proved that Pardew for all his faults wanted more players last summer yet this liar TDsarf claims it was Pardew who said we didn’t need to buy.

  • 157 aidytoon9 // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    @151 maybe big fash. Lol

  • 158 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    If Pardew had been sacked, we had brought in a new young continental coach, hired Joe Kinnear as DoF and asked him to keep an eye on team morale and offer his advice to the head coach and owner whilst remaining silent in the media, I wouldn’t be peed off. I could actually see it being pretty decent.

    The problem is that he and Pardew are too alike and Alan Pardews lack of managerial prowess, quality and ability is the single biggest contributing factor as to why this is the worst decision I have ever seen Ashley make.

    2 wrongs don’t make a right and having those 2 plonkers in charge is tactical suicide both commercially and in terms of footballing progression.

    We should have fired Pardew, hired a young coach and brought in a director of football.

    The right idea but the worst application of an idea in our PL history.

  • 159 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    I’m looking forward to Pardew saying “Me and Joe are both winners” before we are taken apart by Bristol in the Leauge Cup.

  • 160 jimiley // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    Keep the faith in Mike and Lambreezi, They want sucsess for the Tewn.

  • 161 GeordieTwo // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    This is an amazing new approach to getting your club publicity. Hire buffoons who rant publicly. Why hadn’t anyone thought of that before? Surely it’s the beginning of a whole new era in promoting your own football club. We have so much to thank Ashley for.

  • 162 jimiley // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:15 PM

    Keep the faith in Josh Turnips and Co. Its all so sad its totally hilarious. Relegation to follow. Another pint please.!!!

  • 163 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    @Beattie – yeah, they’re both winners….about 25- 30% of the time…

  • 164 jimiley // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    Shirley Temple as Director of footy, Mike please!!!!

  • 165 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    I must say now my anger has subsided to a point of pure embarrassment I can see the unlimited comedy potential of the future and I’m actually, in a weirdly perverted way, looking forward to this season as I think it’ll be a car crash of epic proportions with the two most arrogant men in football going hammer and tongues in the press.

    As much as I hate it, every week it’ll be funny to hear Alan say “the opposition wouldn’t let us have a shot” and Joe backing him up.

    That’s what it’ll be. Alan will 10000000% love this.

    Anyone thinking he’ll leave will be amazed. Alan has an opportunity here to be shielded by Joe, protected by him and the two of them will warp, manipulate and twist the minds of those near sighted individuals that are currently up in arms.

    I guarantee we will sign a few players, we will find new excuses and the whole turd will be polished until Ashley looks like a genius again, even if we are below top 10.

    Pardew will be loving it.

  • 166 slav // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    Jermaine Lens to Dynamo K confirmed #DKFC

  • 167 slav // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    totally agree wth Beattie25
    i think Pardew has found very good reason for one more big Excuse if (when) he fails this campaign

  • 168 geordiejamie89 // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    This is beyond a joke. Unfortunately for me, my relationship with Newcastle United is on hold. When somebody is appointed to an important position, doesn’t even know players names, despite the fact it landed him in trouble last time, something is seriously wrong. I won’t watch another game while he is at the club. Mike Ashley won’t be bothered because theres plenty Geordie’s out there that can just take it on the chin and put up with it enough to fill the stadium. Not me. itl take something drastic for M.A to care about fans opinion. and while keenarse is around, im staying clear.

  • 169 tequilamag // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:21 PM

    Beattie, do you really think Pardew is happy about this ? How come he seems to have taken a vow of silence.

  • 170 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:21 PM

    Alan can now freely blame everything but the fans and the press and Joe can blame everything including the fans and the press.

    I think that this might be as much Pardews doing as Ashley’s.

  • 171 Bearsize // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    Jolly fat k**t. I thought the interview wasnt so bad until he got to the end and bragged how he could ring all these managers. Doesnt mean they’ll pick up joe!!!! If i brings in some good signings and gets rid of toilet shola, hides in the backround and does his job then good for him. Time will tell

  • 172 lesh // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    If Pardew does walk, you can bet your boots that the next one to take on that role will be Joe (Mr Diplomacy) Kinnear. Don’t bother thinking about a credible replacement.

    Just listening to talksport, they’re not panning Kinnear but saying lots of good things about Pardew. Funny old world eh.

    Oh and Ibizatoon, naughty corner for you me lad and if you mention daughters again, you’ll be put to bed with no supper. Now behave yourself……… And stop sulking!

  • 173 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    Beattie – I must say I agree. It’s an absolute safety net- he can’t lose in the national press this coming season!

    Hoofing it 4,000,000 times a match will be because of uncertainty at the club.

  • 174 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    Tequila

    Because Alan isn’t is as daft as Joe.

    Alan will wait a few days, have the press and fans assume and then come out and fully back it after meeting the man.

    The owner knew there would be fall out from this and if Alan had have come out and backed it straight away we’d have questioned his backbone.

    This silence makes him look stronger than he actually is.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Alan comes out and says “I’m not happy but I’ll get on with it”.

    This endears him to the fans more and Joe acts as the defective shield whilst all the while both of them laugh into their jellied eels.

    Tasty

  • 175 geordiejamie89 // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    So there’s about 600 a year from me gone from the club. If tens of thousands of people voiced the same, that ballsack wouldnt even make the start of the season.

  • 176 stuart no9 // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    scout–
    “its just the way it is”—– does that make it right then?

  • 177 Rooster // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    Thick as thieves the lot of them MA DL AP JK GC LC even wor pedro who wont have a word said against MA and walked out of a club do when a woman was slating MA, it has been said many times MA is terrific to work for (keegan accepted) they all seem to get on with him as they all seemed to get on with JK when he was here the last time, its all in house, MA will run the club how he wants, not how most like of course but he has his methods, he certainly knows how to make money for sure, his decisions sting that is for sure, he now has to back these latest ones up like the rest he has made in his tenure, time will only tell how long they are all here of course but I feel they all know the score were each other is concerned, all for one and one for all, when MA goes they all will, if the right offer comes in he will take it, no doubts, they will have a figure in mind. no outside debt for incoming buyers, quite an attractive proposition, buy the club lock stock and barrel, I don’t want to guess the figure but if its on the nail he will go.

  • 178 Belfast // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    I can’t see him being happy about it like.
    Though I don’t think he will walk out.

  • 179 Bearsize // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    I always felt a DOF was a job u gave a manager that u didnt have the heart to sack, kind of like what we have to do with shola! Wow would shola be a good DOF? I think he might

  • 180 Jail for Ashley // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    Beattie,
    I don’t even think I’m angry anymore just had enough, I was influnced by Band B and Solano a few months ago that persuaded me if that I hate the regime so much why give them my money, I promised myself that I wouldn’t go if we didn’t spend what I deemed a satisfactory amount this summer, this final slap in the face is the final straw and has changed my way of thinking ,I shall not return to my beloved SJP until this cretin sells the club.

  • 181 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    I’m telling you Ashley is effing clever. He is making it look like he’s incompetent when in truth he is the most competent business man in football.

    This instability, oddness and randomness is carefully orchestrated to ensure the continued mediocrity of nufc.

    These things that Ashley is doing cannot be put down to a lack of footballing knowledge, the one thing we should all know is that Ashley is a brilliant business man.

    It’s just my speculative nature but I truly think Alan Pardew is in on this and the team will be too good to go down and too disorganised to be successful.

    Conspiracy theory but it reeks of a well planned stunt.

    Have many headlines, mentions and trends have been made in the past 48 hours?

    Alan is absolved once more as he tries to steer nufc away from the bottom 3, Ashley is again made to be seen as the Panto villain as his pockets are filled regardless of the clubs mediocrity and Joe Kinnear is the donkey on which we pin the tail.

  • 182 slav // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    here we go with the beginning

    https://twitter.com/TransferSources/status/347083535879925761/photo/1

  • 183 tequilamag // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:37 PM

    Beattie once the season starts nobody will JFK a second thought. The buck will stop with Pardew.
    There is no chance in the world Pardew will be happy with having Kinnear waiting in the background to step into his shoes. This has the smell of MA all over it. Kinnear is there to be MAs eyes and ears. The one thing virtually everyone on the blog could agree with is tha Carr was doing a good job. What the hell can Kinnear bring to the table. Hr has already undermined Pardew by saying he is in charge of all transfers and that he knows more about football than anybody else at the club.

  • 184 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    @tequila – it’s made such a fuss there is no way this will be forgotten- every loss and that interview will be mentioned.

  • 185 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    JFA

    It’s a shame because I am doing the same.

    I refuse to buy anything from anywhere relating to mike Ashley. The thing is is that the Geordie faithful for the most part are too engrossed in their own pride to see how best to evict this man.

    Already I’m seeing calls for “support the team, not the regime”.

    This is simply paradoxical. You cannot go onto the match, pay money into the coffers, support the team and not support the regime.

    Ashley doesn’t give 2 shits whether we like him or not. He cashes in on our “loyalty” to the team. He knows we’ll turn up regardless and most fans think protesting and anti board chants will dishearten the team so won’t do it. We are stuck in the spiders web and most fans will lie there as the arachnid wraps its silk around our lifeless body.

    Other fans would fight and protest and fight and chant and fight until change is made.

    You can’t fight for freedom without running the risk of losing. We might bring the team down and club may suffer in the short term but most of us will support the club until we die and we should fight until the end of our days to make things right again.

    I would gladly sacrifice next season and the one after and the one after until we are rid of this man and his cronies and I would roll up my sleeves and do my small part to rebuild the club from the ashes and broken foundations until we are proud again.

    I don’t support nufc for the trophies, the victories or the glory. I support them because they once made me proud, as did my fellow fans.

    Sadly the major thing holding this club back isn’t the cockney mafia, it’s the Geordie faithful. Those that think support of the team outweighs the need to make the club great again.

    People will continue to buy their wonga shirts, chant Pardews name and enjoy match days fraught with horrible football and disappointing results because “we are the greatest fans in the world” whom “support the club no matter what”.

  • 186 Novocastrian66 // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    Know what. I feel sorry for Pardew. I ended the season hoping he got the sack. Now, I think he could walk away with his head held high. Never envisaged this scenario. I’ve decided to keep my season ticket as I have already paid for half of it. I’m struggling to see what will make me renew in March.

  • 187 tequilamag // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    gonufc, but he will take no responsibility for any poor performance. Pardew is in charge of team selection. Any bad results and it will be Pardew taking the flak not Kinnear. And all the time our next manager will be waiting in the wings. MA may be a genius at business but he has shown he knows SFA about football. Beattie s comspiracy theory is on a par with David Icke and the lizard people.
    Pardew is on a hiding to nothing now. If he was truly happy about this he would have said something, .he is not known for being shy of talking to the press. Chances are when he does speak he will not rock the boat but don`t believe for one second he is going to be happy about this.

  • 188 Big Pappa Cissé // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    “All hail Mike Ashley the Puppet master”

  • 189 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    Tequila

    I honestly believe that Kinnear will be in the press as much as Pardew.

    The buck stopped with Pardew last season but he escaped major blame for the most part.

    The buck stops with Pardew again but once more this situation presents another way to swerve criticism.

    Whatever Kinnear says in the press equates to naff all when the doors are closed and Joe, Alan and Graham are sat in the room together.

    Only they will know the full extent of Kinnears role and Kinnear will shoot off his mouth and Pardew will laugh it off publicly with all his smarmy charm.

  • 190 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    Joe kinnear once scored an own goal and put his team 1-0 up

  • 191 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    Tequila

    Do you not think Lizard people exist?

    Have you ever been to Sunderland?

  • 192 stuart no9 // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    “support the team not the regime” —-do you think this farce would be allowed to carry on in clubs like man-u, man c, chelsea, arsenal ??- no chance-the fans would put a stop to it as soon as their “DOF” slated them on national radio. We must not give him that opportunity ever again , Get him out .
    it is so easy to do. 50,000 banners with ” KINNEAR GOES OR WE GO ‘ will do the trick. 1 chance only.
    Any body know who can print 50,000 banners ?

  • 193 Rooster // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    Novo, they all know the situation, AP isn’t getting done over at all, he will know the score for sure,bet he has spoken many times with the gang, its all in house, I mean another club with a season like we had would have binned there manager asap, when AP gives his first interview he will say he genuinely is happy that JK is here and I will believe him, I even reckon when he first took over it was made clear if JK gets back to full fitness he will be back in the fold, this is my opinion of the closed shop at SJP, ant decision will be made without the fans feelings being thought of, MA in his world dosnt do hard feelings, he is a ruthless businessman who will do for his business what he feels best, simple as.

  • 194 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    @tequila – but the point is that regardless of what input he has, any poor performance will be seen by MotD and the national newspapers as “instability” and “rocking the boat” by Kinnear. The point is, if results don’t go our way then Kinnear WILL be mentioned and I think that is a safety net for Pardew.

    However, I don’t believe it was planned that way.

  • 195 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    Tequila

    Lets say that we get beat 3-0 first game of the season. We play awful, same boring tactics and Alan comes out and says “well, yer know, we’ve had a disrupted pre season. Things out of our control. Changes in the boardroom, cancelled pre season tour with last minute replacements and the selling of some big players, trust me, it’s had an effect on the result.”. Tell me how Pards gets the flack?

    It was the same last season. Cancelled pre season tour, European preparation, lack of transfers and Demba Ba’s future disrupting us eliminated almost all criticism the manager deserved after a poor start.

    He has a new arsenal of excuses to hide behind. Imagine if we sign next to nobody this summer. Pardew will be a man absolved of all blame and he ill fcuking love it.

  • 196 GeordieTwo // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    I can feel the love coming in waves out of St. James now. Llambeezee is running across the pitch naked with a handful of wild flowers for his mate Joey K. Pardew is laughing and making notes with his little pencil. Ashley is there as well just taking it all in. Beautiful. The summer of love begins.

  • 197 tequilamag // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:03 PM

    Beattie, why would Kinnear take any of the flak if we play badly. He does not pick the team. Nobody was sharpening the pitchforks for Carr when Drbuchy was giving away soft pens.. Pardew was the lightening rod for all criticism last year and you were at the forefront of that. Kinnear may take some flak if we buy Carlton Cole but it will be Pardew taking the hits on matchdays.

  • 198 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:05 PM

    Stuart

    Everton protested a few years back due to lack of investment. Massive march by the fans, disruptive chants of sack the board and threats of further action if the issue was not resolved.

    At the time is effected the team but ultimately Everton got investment and last season they finished 6th with an array of good players bought on a small budget.

    We should’ve been out in force last Summer when it happened to us. But no, the majority were happy and only on reflection found the passion to complain.

    Best fans in the world? Certainly not!!!

  • 199 yo-yo // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:06 PM

    Beattie

    I homestly think Mashley has made so many errors of judgement during his loan of NUFC that he is almost always a willing participant in cockup NOT conspiracy theory. Being rich doesn’t mean you’re that bright – I mean look at Paris Hilton.
    Self made busiunessmen can be lucky, cunning or gamblers and as long as one of those three turns up they’re in the money. As for the Rusian oilygarchs they’re just mafia guys.

    This is a mistake which may well snowball depending on how AP and JFK gel. If they do it may well be as you suggest – if they don’t well..

    Either way we are destined for endless merdiocrity (deliberate spelling mistake btw)

  • 200 GeordieTwo // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:06 PM

    I can’t stay serious because this is all too disturbing. Deeply troubled owner with little connection to the real world hires deeply disturbed mate who seems to be experiencing dementia. Puts him in charge of a football club potentially worth 250M pounds. Watches while new hire rants and foams at the mouth. Probably wondering why supporters are so upset. Retreats back into his dream world inside his mansion.

  • 201 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:12 PM

    Tequila

    Carr took a lot of flak on the forums actually. People questioned his scouting abilities when the players were being blamed for poor results.

    Why did Llambias take flak? Why does Ashley? Why do all staff affiliated with nufc take flak in the bad times? Because the fans and press like to blame anyone and everyone that can be considered flavour of the month.

    Kinnear will be blamed if Cabaye goes to Monaco. Whether he was going to go or not.

    If you think that fingers won’t be pointed his way then you’re misguided. If he travels with the team, gives tactical advice and reports to Ashley off course he’ll get flak.

    Pardew deserves all flak on match days but sadly some people think he is good enough for this club and thus gives them an excuse to absolve him of blame.

    Don’t get me wrong if we get beat then I will blame Pardew if its his fault. Sadly I’m in the minority of fans who call a spade a spade.

    Ashley knows this, Kinnear knows this and Pardew knows this.

    They know how to manipulate Geordies.

  • 202 Rooster // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM

    Three quality signings to come in before the end of the window imo, he wont make the same mistake as last season, maybe a couple at least to go as well, shola if anyone wants him simpson, Jonas please ha ha also Obertan, I feel we will keep KEBABS UNLESS MONACO OR PSG OFFER DAFT MONEY,BEN ARFA TO STAY AND START FIRING ON ALL CYLINDERS, Ciise scoring for fun, we will get someone in who can actually cross a ball, and as JK`S Wimbledon were deadly on corner,s he may have a bit of input there as well AND WE MIGHT GET FEW. a positive post, not totally tongue in cheek either. AV HATED THE LAST FEW DAYS AS EVERYONE ELSE, BUT IM STILL GOING TO THE MATCHES ALL THE SAME.

  • 203 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:20 PM

    Yo yo

    Do you think Ashley will ever invest enough money into Sports Direct to take on the major sporting retailers such as Addidas, Nike and Reebok or do you think he is happy making profit being Britain’s biggest sports retailer that specialises in budget clothing at affordable prices?

    Newcastle is designed in the same vein. Why pump billions into the club to take on the big boys when we sit happily being one of the biggest clubs in England easily turning over a profit.

    Every now and again Ashley will buy a cheap company and turn it into something that fetches a big dividend. The same as players.

    Free advertising, guaranteed income from the fans, exposure on an international level and mad choices that funnily enough propel his company and club into every national newspaper and to the top of world trends of twitter.

    Ashley is not the incompetent owner you lot think he is. He is manipulating all of you and using your dreams of potential greatness for his own profit.

  • 204 tequilamag // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:23 PM

    Beattie, Carr is pretty much considered a saint on this blog I can`t remember any criticism of him. Your conspiracy theory is just another long winded way of keeping the focus on Pardew by suggesting he is cock a hoop at JFK coming as somehow he can point the finger of blame at him if and when things go tits up. The appointment of JFK means Pardew is pretty much on a countdown to the dole Q unless he can get the team firing on all cylinders from the off. As much as i wanted Pardew to have another 6 months to show his 5th place finish was not a one off I would have been happy if he had replaced by somebody who had genuine ability. Instead we now have JFK waiting in the wings.
    Happy days.

  • 205 stuart no9 // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:24 PM

    beattie – yeah your right, but lets face it , we havnt got a team worthy of disruption. We could have, if some people on hear could look , just a tad past their noses and not feel hard done by coz they have bought a season ticket( in another ashley scam) hahaha. some people just cant help themselves! and dont want to miss 1 minute of shit football . if 50% of us decided not to go back untill joey queer was sacked – it wouldnt take long before his p45 was on its way .

  • 206 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:30 PM

    Tequila

    If you don’t think Pardew wouldn’t use JfK as an excuse then you haven’t been paying attention.

    Your perception that Pards would not be happy is as much a conspiracy as my own views and to be frank neither of us will never truly know.

    Lets see what happens but I honestly believe that Alan Pardew knew something like this would happen and that he isn’t in the dark as many are claiming.

  • 207 scout // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:30 PM

    It’s the way it is, things could be worse. Like Coventry.
    Premiership club, 3 French internationals, it could be worse

  • 208 tequilamag // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:30 PM

    Stuart have you made a start on those 50000 banners yet ? or are you still waiting for somebody else to do the job?

  • 209 manxpie // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    stuartno9 seriously wat do you think posting on hear is gonna achieve go an camp outside the stadium with a big banner and loads of leaflets and do something about it then if ya that serious but you’ve been posting the last few days the same thing!! IT WONT MAKE A DIFFERENCE!! infact ya sounding like jfk man!

  • 210 Bambams // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    Still cannot believe Ash has done this. He either just wants yes men around him, have a DoF who he can pay peanuts or is forcing Pardew to leave.

    One thing you can guarantee is Pardew with his ego will not like this one little bit regardless whatever Joke in here says

    Imo

  • 211 John Tudor // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    an empty ground speaks volumes

  • 212 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    Stuart

    Exactly. All civil movements start with a few causing unrest. I hope that a few people refusing to spend their money on nufc will become many and that these guys are forced out of town.

    I shall wear my old nufc tops with pride and cheer the team on in pubs with all my heart but they will receive no more money from me until things change for the better.

  • 213 Jail for Ashley // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    Rooster,
    Stfup !

  • 214 manxpie // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    and beattie you just posted reasons for our poor season then blamed pardew for using them reasons!
    and they are genuine reasons not excuses!?

  • 215 jimmysmith // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:34 PM

    C’mon, let’s see what happens, we’ve had a fifth place finish and a decent European run in 2 seasons and now we’ve got a DoF to give us the deeper more balanced squad we need.

    I don’t much like Ashley, he’s clearly using the club, but he’s the owner, it’s his and we have made progress on the pitch. Off the pitch has been a real mixed bag of course, with some nasty stuff in there, but the Kinnear appointment, however possibly misguided, is an attempt I believe to improve the playing side of things. It’s not a pisstake, and Kinnear is not a mug, whether he’s good enough remains to be seen. Although I think it is fair to say, he wouldn’t get near such a position at any club we’d consider our rivals, but that’s Ashley for you.

  • 216 tequilamag // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    Beattie, paying attention to what. Your weird conspiracy theory. I once had a customer who thought that Leeds Bradford airport was a front for Orange to import aliens to take over the world. I could not prove to him he was wrong but on balance I think it was pretty unlikely.

  • 217 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    Hi Beattie – knew this was too much of a magnet for you ha ha. Crazy days eh?

    So, it seems all of you who were fed up with Pardews drivel media chop have had their wishes granted, and you know what they say about wishes? :). Day 2 of the 2nd era of JFK, no, Elvis is still dead, the Twin Towers are not standing again but evidence of a parallel universe exists in this sorry saga. Still, it’ll be a laugh. All we need are a coupleof jugglers, a trapeze artist and a seal and its all finished. St James Big Top is the new name for the stadium.

  • 218 manxpie // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    snap tequilla :)

  • 219 kevymartins // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    @John a empty stadium will never happen..Start of a new season fans will be buzzing to watch the team in action with maby a few new signings. And people on the blog take things to serious and personal…Take it with a pinch of salt I bet if you were in newcastle now the geordies wouldn’t even care about this.

  • 220 Tsunki // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    Tequila – how stupid can people be? everyone knows its Durham Tees Valley. 😀

  • 221 89Norcal // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    Way to keep your chin up, Rooster :)

  • 222 John Tudor // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    so kevy there is no need to oust this regime and yes empty stadium do happen

  • 223 yo-yo // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    Beattie

    Why would MA want top be a world leader when it is so profitable being top UK brand ?
    Nor did I say he was incompetent but I don’t bestow him with the levels of manipulativeness you do – he is as much prone to cockups and poor decision making as anyone else.
    He has been very acquisitive financially in the markets so surely does qualify as shark in the water especially when his pal from Wigan is involved.
    Your main criticisms of Pardew last season was that he was just not good enough to take the Toon to the level you felt we were worth. So do you think JFK can do any better ?

    One man’s excuse is another man’s justification – and I never entirely agreed with you with your anti Pardew campaign as imo the real rot is at the very top – as it was with the Shepherds etc etc. You seem to blame the monkey not the organ grinder and now we know the real poverty of aspiration that MA has for NUFC perhaps your vitriol will be directed against him a little more strongly.

  • 224 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    Manx

    I posted excuses Pardew used not reasons for a bad season.

    I still believe they were contributing factors but the central point was Alan Pardew.

  • 225 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    When Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone he switched it on and found that he had 4 missed calls from Joe Kinnear.

  • 226 kevymartins // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:44 PM

    @John No need to get yourself worked up. When we sign a few players job done thats it blown over…Once the market shuts thats kinnears job done until january for another month then thats him away again. It’s not like hes running the club he is in charge of transers so we wont see him much anyway.

  • 227 Rooster // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:44 PM

    Jailforashley, no doubt your season ticket has been deployed for some time, I don’t like the circus like most, we still have a squad stacked with internationals with more to come imo, I will go to the matches, if you are so fed up why do you still come on the forums and why don’t you cut the toon off altogether until MA goes, I know quite a few who have, I know you spout the propagander nightly, no one is chuffed about JK but, everyone has a choice to make concerning the club they support, MA has got the club as stable as any other club in the Prem, that is a positive, ITS NOT ALL NEGATIVE, IT HURTS AT TIMES, BUT IT ALWAYS DOES WHEN WE DONT GET OUR OWN WAY DOSNT IT.

  • 228 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    Tequila

    How can the fact that I think Ashley is clever, Alan is astute and Joe is daft enough to pull something like this to ensure the stifled progression of nufc be comparable to LBA being a airport for aliens or the NWO being lizards?

    I’ll admit its out there but it is possible. I think you’re a little jealous you didn’t think of it first. Now there’s a conspiracy.

  • 229 yo-yo // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:47 PM

    Beattie

    Why would anyone be jealous of a conspiracy theorist ?

  • 230 kevymartins // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:48 PM

    @Beattie Throwing out conspiracy theories don’t you think it could be just coincidence that the club did need a DOF and mike thought jfk would do a good job in that role?

  • 231 Mister Tuff // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:48 PM

    I understand that the new shakers and movers at SJP have selected a new list of songs to be played on match days. the following is their favourite.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D5Sa2Yq-2g

  • 232 89Norcal // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:51 PM

    Mister Tuff
    I heard Gabby will dress up as a clown and Jonas will be our bearded lady. Watch out Circ du soleil

  • 233 yo-yo // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:51 PM

    kevy

    It might just be more a divide and rule approach to managing the club that MA is adopting – the more big eogs that can clash the easier it is for Mashley to control – play them off against each other.
    That ain’t a conspiracy so much as a well worn way managers keep their grip on the cojones of their trusted lieutenants

  • 234 John Tudor // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    im not worked up just i have my visions on his plans it to me its not good .i have not meet anyone who believes in the regime or the way they’re working its his to do as he please’s
    but he’s just a custodian @the end of the day he’ll get his comeuppence

  • 235 tequilamag // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    Tsunki, you have blown the cover now. Sorry but the Illuminati will have to silence you.

  • 236 voodoo85 // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    I have not commented since this whole Joe Kinnear story came out over the weekend but to me this is bad news for our club.

    I can’t see how Joe will manage to deal with other clubs on the continent where we buy alot of our players from – he seems to out of his depth and clubs in France etc will be put off by his way of doing things

    Take all his rambling and stuff away and he does have experience from his days at the Dons but i see that as being valuable to a team in Championship or League One (thats if every other aspect of Kinnear was spot on)

    But he has been out of the game for so long that i can’t see him being able to negotiate deals for players etc.

    I genuinely believe that our chances of signing people this summer has went down dramatically thanks to this appointment

  • 237 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    Yo yo

    I always blamed the organ grinder but thought it better for the club to get a better monkey before pushing to find a new owner.

    Ashley gave this monkey the tools to put on quite a show but the monkey stood still in tap shoes and stood around doing nothing when the music played. Now Ashley has found another monkey and the organ grinder must be targeted with all force until these idiots are moved in.

  • 238 soundoid // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    So Mike Ashley is an evil genius or a f**k wit. Ed could we have that as a poll please.

  • 239 Galtierez // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    On five live now Mark Douglas and Steve Wraith.

  • 240 yo-yo // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    JT

    sometimes it’s a long wait for kharma

  • 241 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    Levy

    That is my conspiracy. That he knows what he’s doing and thinks Kinmear will do a good job.

  • 242 yo-yo // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    soundoid

    could be both – not necessarily either or

  • 243 manxpie // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    eaststand quality lol
    beattie he didn’t use them “excuses” they are indeed facts!
    and then this whole episode shows what he’s got to work under a shambles comes to mind he really doesn’t need excuses when we’ve all just witnessed whats gone on and this is a time when many not just PL clubs are completeing deals!
    for me this just shows how unbelievably useless lamearse n ashley were last summer and more importantly not listening to the football people around them!

  • 244 yo-yo // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    crazy

  • 245 Beattie25 // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    Right I’m offski. See you all in hell!

  • 246 Tommyy // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:56 PM

    They will all blame each other, everyone and anyone but themselves and we’ll lap it up like the docile fans we are. Pardew could well be in on it and this all a ruse in order for us to feel for Pardew and therefore give him time and space. Then again it could be in order to try and Pardew to walk, I suspect the former. In the meantime Sports gets a fair dollop of free publicity.

    football is the backdrop to all of this internal politics. Beattie always talks sense to me and whilst it often sounds like hysteria and conspiracy, it could all be valid.

    One thing is for certain, Ashley is playing the game of thrones and Newcastle United will be the one that dies.

  • 247 manxpie // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    talkin of conspiricy theories did that ginger ever say wat he was on about?

  • 248 soundoid // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    a)Evil Genus
    b) Fu*k wit
    c) Don’t Know

  • 249 Marty-Toon // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    Listen guys,
    Until we the fans own the club this is the rubbish we have to put up with until he sells the club.
    We love the club and hate these daft things that happen to her.
    But like most I just can’t stop supporting her.
    The inancial footing and youth system are both good ideas but then they just dish out misery on us again and again.
    Joe in my opinion was and is a better manager than Pards
    He is pathetic when it comes to his big gob
    Donno wat will happen but I’d feel mre secure with graham Carr doing the final cut on players coming in

  • 250 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    JFK is dumb, most football players are dumb. Maybe it will work? Is Llambias a bit too smart for the average footballer? :-)

    Can we just consider him as that slightly mad relative that most of us have? He doesn’t really reflect the whole family, and hopefully he’s actually good at something…

  • 251 jimiley // Jun 18, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    Really disappointed in Big Mike. He has totally overplayed his hand. Before this appointment fans could argue whether he was a good or bad thing for NUFC. There can be no doubts now. He hates NUFC and will do anything to embarrass the club whilst maintaining Premiership survival. Cash in his pockets while the club limps along. Shame on you Mike for showing your hand.

  • 252 Big Pappa Cissé // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    Joe Kinnear lost his virginity before his dad

  • 253 Tommyy // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:03 PM

    This appointment has convinced me we need a new owner, a new regime in order to ever achieve anything beyond mediocrity. Before I felt it was just a tweak in playing style or an additional coach or hopefully a change of manager. It’s gone beyond all of that now, it’s amazing to see how, in a short 5 years, fans have been played like Ashley’s golden fiddle and now have neither the heart nor intent to make a stand. Something must be done.

  • 254 jimmysmith // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:03 PM

    Ash is good at getting his own way and keeping us under control, it’s pretty hard to start a riot after a fifth place finish and a European campaign.

    He’ll have us in and around the top 6 to 8, no more, no less, while busying himself with the real business of using the club to promote Sports Direct.

    That’s it, that’s our lot. Our only real hope is he becomes a little more magnanimous as he gets on a bit.

  • 255 jimiley // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    Big Mike is worth two thousand million. Fans say he would not risk wasting 15o million on the Toon. He hates the Toon ever since the fans embarrassed him and had a pop at his daughter. 150 million is small change to him. He will embarrass us and if that means losing 150 million, so what???

  • 256 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:08 PM

    jimiley

    What exactly would be the point of Ashley putting £150M into our club? If we qualified for Europe, we wouldn’t be allowed in because of the FFP rules!

    If you have £200,000 equity in a house, are you seriously saying that you wouldn’t be bothered about losing £15,000?

    He’s a wealthy businessman, he didn’t get to that stage without being tight with his money…

  • 257 jimiley // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    Once again the wrong person gets the blame. We pick on the easy target. JFK. But if someone offered you a job on £500k a year at 66 what would you do???The real cancer at the club is big Mike. JFK is a side show.

  • 258 manxpie // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    jimiley haha that has to be the stupidest comment for quite a while like!!

  • 259 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:10 PM

    jimmysmith

    Spurs have the 6th highest revenue in the PL, which is more than 50% higher than ours. How do you think we deserve to compete with Spurs or above?

  • 260 manxpie // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    toondarn he said waste it as in write it off just to embarrass us lol

  • 261 jimiley // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    Toondown,

    Normally I would agree with you. but this guy really hates us and is prepared to lose all that money to keep us a laughing stock. he is making that much every year at Sports Direct. He hates us that much. Just look at the decisions. Wonga, renaming the stadium and now JFK. He is treating us like a joke while he pockets the transfer surplus and the 70 million SKY money. He is actually making dosh whilst taking the piss.

  • 262 Big Pappa Cissé (a.k.a - Yohan Kebab, a.k.a - Hatem Ben Afri, a.k.a - Shola Amamobi, a.k.a - Jonas Gultierrez) // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    What do you think of the new name :) . So pi**ed of right now, all I can do is laugh about it to keep me from smashing something.

  • 263 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    I haven’t got the time to do a whole blog like Ed, but I’d love to write an article listing all the actual facts of the situation and see what people have to say about it…

    It’s always been about money, but these days much more of the money comes from TV revenue (both the equal PL split and the performance based revenue from league and cups) rather than the turnstiles. So our 52,000 attendance doesn’t count for as much as it used to.

    Face it…we’re the 7th or 8th biggest club in the PL for all the current measurements that count. Essentially that’s revenue, value of squad and value of the club.

  • 264 jimmysmith // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    I think we’ll jag a sixth from time to time as is the unpredictable nature of football, but Spurs will consistently finish above us.

  • 265 scout // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:17 PM

    Can’t compare it to a 200 grand house, once you pass a certain amount money is immaterial

  • 266 p // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    Gustavo Poyet

  • 267 stuart no9 // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:20 PM

    manx – dont tell me you bought a season ticket ? is that why your upset? coz we can boycott when we want and dosnt cost nowt- you get duped by ash for a ten year season ticket to watch shit football – i would be upset as well , also if you think playing in an empty stadium wouldnt make any difference to ash- your an idiot – no wonder ash loves guys like you .hahaha.

  • 268 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:20 PM

    jimiley

    Yep, and you know what? I heard he also donated money to Al-Qaeda, was part of Jimmy Savile’s inner circle and he also betrayed Han Solo to the Empire…

  • 269 jimmysmith // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:21 PM

    It also doesn’t necessarily follow that Spurs will continue to spend in the way they have. They are overextended and are taking risks. They are though for the foreseeable future, a bigger club than us in every respect bar stadium and support, although, if they own their ground and of course with players like Bale, things look good long term for them.

  • 270 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    scout

    Ok, you go and ask a billionaire if they care about losing a hundred million or so. I know what the answer would be.

  • 271 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    jimmysmith

    There’s nothing to say we couldn’t make up the gap and finish above Spurs or any of the other top 6. I’m just making the point that it’s not Ashley restricting us from cracking into the top 6, it’s the realities of the club.

    There needs to be gradual progress in the club so the revenue goes up and we can challenge for Europe on a regular basis.

  • 272 Big Pappa Cissé (a.k.a - Yohan Kebab, a.k.a - Hatem Ben Afri, a.k.a - Shola Amamobi, a.k.a - Jonas Gultierrez) // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    Billionaires don’t become billionaires by being lenient with money

  • 273 manxpie // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:28 PM

    stuart no i havent and what are you on about who’s “we” and where is this “boycott” i was laughin at you constantly saying on a BLOG that you should boycott!!
    what are you going to achieve from that seriosly??
    i simply said to ya why dont you camp outside the stadium from now hand out ya leaflets tell all the people about this instead of spoutin it on a blog now who’s the idiot??

  • 274 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    So it all finally grinds to a halt, JK really is our new DOF.

    Bizaare scenario and appointment, only time will tell if it can be successful. Once again we are playing the waiting game and have been put on edge. Unnecessary pressure and bad press has been brought to the club.

    This whole drama, even though it was funny in a strange kind of way has sickened me and I’v lost all hope of any kind of success or stability with this board.

    Does anybody out there actually believe this regime will ever bring stability or success to this football club?

  • 275 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    The lowest Spurs have finished in the last 9 seasons has been 11th. And they’re the worst team of the 6. Liverpool are probably the next worst and haven’t finished in the bottom half since they got promoted in 1962!

    When we’ve had 3 or 4 consecutive top 10 finishes, we can start to think about pushing forward and consistently challenging for Europe.

  • 276 jimiley // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    Manx,
    it is idiots like you who are holding this club back. You deserve Ashley and JFK. I just hope you are one of the other two thousand idiots cheering on the Mike and co in an empty stadium. Thats the only way to get rid of him. He will never sell the club. He is milking us dry whilst taking the piss. You are made for each other.

  • 277 jimmysmith // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    Ashley won’t spend what’s required to have us consistently top 6 any time soon, based on his past form. But sure, long term maybe, anything is possible and change is inevitable.

    Wouldn’t bet on it, though, would you?

  • 278 scout // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:31 PM

    I know what you’re saying but the house comparison was daft, if he doesn’t care he would sell. He’s still there offering people the chance to watch, if only 20,000 turn up he probably couldn’t give a monkeys. The fans aren’t paying London prices, if people don’t wanna go then don’t. Kinnear was right about one thing some fans are sucked in by the media hype, messiahs and all that, give the bloke a chance I say, and I don’t blame Ashley for getting his mate in, I’d do the same. Lets be honest what top bloke would we attract.

  • 279 bills-son // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:32 PM

    Yesterday I compared Kinnear to the prawn sandwich comment from Gerald Ratner that ruined his jewellry business almost overnight.

    Ashley is without doubt a highly intelligent, smart and ruthless businessman – how that squares up with appointing Kinnear is totally baffling, even to an Ashley supporter like me. I make no bones about that.

    Pardew might be a smarmy smart ar$e at times but 95% of the time he represents the club well and professionally. How he will react to Kinnear spouting off unprofessionally in his clown like manner needs no second guessing.

    I can’t raise any enthusiasm for Kinnear’s appointment at all, only the exact opposite. Ashley has either made one almighty smart appointment that none of us has the brains to spot – or he has dropped one almighty bollock that he is too thick to see.

    I hope its the first, but fear its the second.

    Ashley might come to regret this apoointment – and it may hurt his pocket – every bit and more than Ratner saying that prawn sandwiches cost more than a pair of his gold earrings because the sarnies lasted longer. Even the smartest can do the dumbest things.

    I don’t believe Ashley has done this to force Pardew out – I’ve no doubt Pardew’s compensation wouldn’t be more than one or two mill at the absolute most which is probably the same or less than Kinnear’s contract. Which means Ashley either thinks they can work together or that Kinnear is more important in the scheme of things than Pardew. We’ll see.

  • 280 manxpie // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:34 PM

    jimiley jesus fella where have i praised ashley this year read my last comment and work it out before calling me an idiot!!

  • 281 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:35 PM

    Don’t feed the troll manxpie…

  • 282 manxpie // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:36 PM

    and your the idiot for suggesting that someone wont be bothered whoever he is, losing 150 million!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    was that a serious question or are you a troll??

  • 283 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    scout

    He does care because he’s a businessman, and I reckon he would care if only 20,000 turned up. But that would be people cutting off our noses to spite our faces. It’s not as if things are any worse than they were under Shepherd! Do we want Souness back as manager? Gullit? Apart from our time under SBR and Keegan (the 1st time), this is the best state our club has been in since we got into the PL.

    Only problem is, 6 clubs are miles ahead right now…

  • 284 wolfshead@toon // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    i still dont get what the fuss is all about i can understand the chronicle runing a hate campaign cos jfk told their reporters to fvck off lol

  • 285 jimiley // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    Manx,
    Apologies if you are not Ashley lover. I am a part time blogger as I get fed up reading bollocks on here after a day or two and need a few weeks rest. There are still people who will defend Ashley. I fear a few weeks break is at hand. Goodnight. God help us next season. JFK to ride to the rescue? Nightmares!!!!

  • 286 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    jimmysmith

    No, he won’t. Partially because he’s still got around £130M of his own money tied up in interest free loans to the club in order to help it because self-sufficient. Granted, this isn’t an entirely selfless gift, he obviously has an interest in the club becoming more valuable as an asset.

    I don’t think he’ll enjoy seeing the fans on his back all the time though. Maybe if he was allowed to enjoy his club, then he may enjoy playing with it a little more too.

  • 287 Bearsize // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    Can joe really handle todays agents? People like redknapp know how to grease up an agent. But unfortunatly we have struggled with some targets because DL and MA despise them. Honestly these agents could laugh at this bloke and where does that leave us?

  • 288 kevymartins // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:42 PM

    @Wolfshead I have seen Alex ferguson be very very bitter towards reporters wenger as well…Media reporters can be right cocks sometimes and deserve it.

  • 289 p // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    hmmm

    Really, I can’t think of any conceivable reason why Kinnear’s appointment makes sense.

    He is a football dinosaur, has health issues and as we have seen in the last 2 days inarticulate and a walking PR disaster.

    I think Mash has f#$%ed up big time here.

    The fact is, he may sit in his office with a bottle of scotch spouting off the odd bit of bollox without really effecting the workings of the club. Somehow I doubt it, he is more likely to be a disruptive force for either good or bad. Most likely bad.

    At least it won’t be dull.

    The other grain of consolation is that he is at least compos mentis to appreciate the need for a striker and a fast winger (I was half expecting him to say we needed a new batsman). I dread to think who he will have a “final say on” though.

  • 290 jimmysmith // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    yeah, it’s a balancing act, but his ambitions lie more with Sports Direct than us, and I suspect he might be irked by some of the shit thrown his way, much of it justified. The whole thing is far from resolved.

    But Newcastle as it stands, are are a big club, with a mid sized clubs mentality, that’s Ashley’s doing.

    I think he wants to develop and grow the club though, he just won’t throw money at it.

  • 291 wolfshead@toon // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:53 PM

    @p

    ashley likes jfk and thats all the reason he needs really i suppose he owns the club and he doesnt need the approval of anyone so where in the lap of the gods – again

  • 292 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    Billson,

    Good post.

    Why do you think MA treats NUFC with so much disrepect compared to his running of Sports Direct?

    Since sunday, this has been nothing short of the work of people run by amateurs. Why is this?

    Why can’t NUFC be run as efficiently as Sports Direct?

  • 293 p // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    @291, I like my dog but I would not put it in charge of my grocery shopping

  • 294 kevymartins // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    @Toon Newcastle ain’t no bloody sporting goods store thats why it can’t be run like sports direct.

  • 295 Newcastle Brown Alien // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/10128821/Alan-Pardew-plays-waiting-game-following-confirmation-of-Joe-Kinnear-as-Newcastles-director-of-football.html

    I think pardew will walk and tbh I wouldn’t blame him, I don’t like Pardew but I do feel sorry for him, This just shows a complete lack of faith and they have brought in the biggest tool on earth to review everything he does.

  • 296 Ginger // Jun 18, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    manxpie

    Alright mate, yeah it turned out to be a load of rubbish. One of the bloggers confirmed it for me.

  • 297 jimmysmith // Jun 19, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    He might walk and if this is Ashley’s inducement to do so, he’s a scumbag.

    If he wants him gone, pay him his due and be done with it.

  • 298 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 19, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    Kevy,

    Your picking me up wrong. Im not asking why are we not run like a sports shop in eldon square. Dear me..

    My question to Billson was why, compared to Sports Direct, that are ran so (professionally) are we ran so amateurish with such complacency.

  • 299 wolfshead@toon // Jun 19, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    if pards walks then a lot of the players might use that as an escape route :-(

  • 300 jimmysmith // Jun 19, 2013 at 12:09 AM

    It’s one thing running Sports Direct quite another NUFC. Ashley doesn’t grasp the responsibilities involved and the obligations to the region.

    He really is just a London market stall retailer made good. He’s not up to it, none of them are.

    Mort and Robson were, but they were anomalies, I’m afraid.

  • 301 lesh // Jun 19, 2013 at 12:23 AM

    Toon-Prodigy.

    Why can’t the club be run as well as sports direct?

    I wonder could it be that SD’s ma management will include specialists in their fields and they in turn will be able to advise him and answer his questions. He set that business up and without those specialists, it would not be a success. Ashley trusts those guys.

    Now at Nufc, it’s a strange world and he’s depending on people he an trust but unfortunately, they, apart from Pardew and Charnleh are not specialists.

    Ashley needs people he can trust but Pardew let him down when he suggested that Ashley was partly responsible for last season’s struggles. Ashley will not have liked that public criticism, however justified and Pardew lost his trust.

    Being a relative stranger to the business of football, who can he turn to for advice? Who better than Joe K and bingo, he wiith his inflated ego and vivid imagination convinced Ashley that he’s the man to be his football guide.

    Ashley’s.insecurities are at the root of this recent coasters, as they were when he appointed Wise as his trusted lieutenant.

    Sad to say that until he can trust people or have the confidence to seek out and appoint a good football person to stand by his side and trust, then these problems will continue to manifest themselves and so it will go on.

  • 302 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 19, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    Considering what Mike has spent on NUFC. It’s no small investment is it?

    Surely it’s in his best interests to hire the correct people with the correct CV’s for the job at hand in all areas of the club?

    We are what, 5-6 years into his reign and have seen nothing but turmoil. This is down to Mike, no one else, for the poor performance of everything connected with the club.

    His recruitment of staff is of a huge importance and he has failed miserably. Apart from Carr, but now he has threw a grenade amongst that also.

    What is annoying me though, is he will not change his ways and constantly just hire the incorrect personnel to do the necessary jobs.

    Would Sports Direct survive if his recruitment was of a simular level? My question is WHY is he doing this with NUFC?

    Surely it’s for his own benefit to have savvy, repected, experienced and proven personnel to look after his interests. He is no mug, he knows exactly what is necessary but for some reason he will not do this.

  • 303 manxpie // Jun 19, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    alrite ginger wat was it tho i aint read through any other posts lol?

  • 304 manxpie // Jun 19, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    why the hell cant he have put beardsley in that role a proper football man and very well respected around the world top class footballer and international and everyone would understand why he couldn’t pronounce names!!

  • 305 jimmysmith // Jun 19, 2013 at 12:33 AM

    @ 301, excellent point. Trust is a big factor in this, he’s not got the time to focus on us and I’m not sure you can but trust.

  • 306 jimmysmith // Jun 19, 2013 at 12:34 AM

    Apologies,”buy” trust.

  • 307 jimmysmith // Jun 19, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    @ 306 hee hee, genuinely funny!

  • 308 jimmysmith // Jun 19, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    FFS @ 305. You know what, f@ck it, goodnight.

  • 309 jimmysmith // Jun 19, 2013 at 12:41 AM

    I meant @ 304. Jesus, worse than Joe.

  • 310 Sav // Jun 19, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    Only Joe Kinnear could have made me uneasy about Llambeezy leaving. Poetry.




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