Alan Pardew Still in Shock And Stunned Silence


It was finally made official around mid-day today and yes – it’s indeed correct – Joe Kinnear is back as the second senior executive at Newcastle as our new Director of Football – alongside Derek LLambias – who it turns out didn’t resign – as Joe had suggested yesterday.

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Mike Ashley – what was he thinking?

So it seems that Alan is paying for his bad year last season, but the sack may have been easier to take than having to work for Joe Kinnear.

One problem with Joe, and he has many problems as he has amply  demonstrated over the last two days, , is that he has a huge ego – and will probably take over a lot of the public duties with the press.

Joe could even become the manager early in the season, if we have bad start, but surely his heart condition will prevent that from happening?

And it was very noticeable in the short statement issued by Newcastle today that the person most affected by Joe’s appointment – Alan Pardew – was not quoted.

Alan didn’t even toe the party line – that he was happy to be working with Joe Kinnear.

But no – there was nothing – not even this from Alan Pardew – which we half expected if Joe had got his way:

“I am delighted to be working with Joe Kinnear, who tells me he is one of the best football men in the world, and regularly talks with Sir Alex Ferguson and other top managers around the world.”

“He tells me he gave debuts to Andy Carroll at Newcastle in 2006, and brought in Tim Krul back in 2005 – and that’s something – since he didn’t arrive at Newcastle until September, 2008, but that’s how good Joe is.”

“So it seems my new boss knows what he’s talking about.” “And we all know that Newcastle would not have been relegated back in 2009, if Joe hadn’t had that heart problem.”

“In fact Joe tells me Newcastle would have finished in mid-table at least – back in 2009 – and I believe him – because he’s my new boss.”

It’s hard to think of a worse decision that Mike Ashley has made at Newcastle – although there probably are some – but here is another example of Mike not caring one little bit about what Newcastle fans think – he seems to go out of his way to upset the fans – who after all are his customers.

This is not a good day for Newcastle fans – that we have somebody as unprofessional as Joe Kinnear as a top executive at Newcastle United, and he is going to be the new face of Newcastle in the transfer market?

Heaven help us.

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310 comments so far

  • TurkishFan101

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    Comment #1

    Repost:

    @tequilamag

    “Turkishfan, fair enough, if you choose not to go to the games because you are so incensed about the current set up that is your choice and I respect it, I will not buy a Newcastle top with Wonga on it as I feel the same way. My issue is that you are denigrating other supporters who still choose to go to the games. It is not for you me or anybody else to rank people on how good are supporter they are.”

    I understand where you are coming from and how you have a correct view on me picking out the fans who look for positive outcomes. But positive outcomes will only come when their is a commitment shown of passion, ambition and respect for us fans and the club.

    You say stay behind the club, but their is only one agenda here and that wont change. We will keep losing the better players as they go for a club that wants to A) Win Cups B) Show positive communication C) Get the fans related and ask them for some advice and get involved D) The players here like Ben Arfa are here for only one reason and that’s cause of us passionate fans and how we stay by his side even when he was out injured for nearly 2 seasons. Do you think he would leave without repaying the club? I don’t think so, only possible way he is leaving our club is if a very big offer comes in and Ben Arfa will be forced out. I see him as our future Director Of Football for some reason or even coach. His got that passionate ambition of not leaving us fans half way through our commitment and our target of getting back to winning silverware and cups.

    I hope you understand, as long as we continue to the current regime and keep on spending on their merchandise, we wont get no where, we we be laughed at even more. We need to boycott going to matches in order to save our club and at least look to something for once in our lives as “Looking forward to this season, can’t wait so excited, our owner, our manager, our players, our staff. Amazing that we finally got an ambitious owner” till that day comes I wont give up. All we have been doing in our lives is work, work, work, pay tax, pay bills, barely go out with the lads, all have gone their separate ways so please. Join us and boycott till they leave.

    I understand we got players to support, but supporting a player in bad morale yourself and the way that they are told to play football on pitch to be hoofing around all over. It is a very hard achievement to boycott but I believe we could unite altogether as toon fans and make them leave.

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  • Santon03

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    Comment #2

    talking about potential managers, I would love to have Luigi Delneri as manager.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    Comment #3

    Santon
    Transfers is his only role mate

    Oh and massive Lol Ed!

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  • kevymartins

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    Comment #4

    I do believe the club needs someone in charge of transfers but after thinking about it. It could have been a very wise decision to promote car to DOF.

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  • Tommyy

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    Comment #5

    Newcastle will seemingly never be a professionally run outfit.

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  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    Comment #6

    Ed hahahaha thats class and i believe pardumb could come out with that.

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  • Edd Case

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    Comment #7

    AP will surely leave.
    Can’t see him getting along with JK – but that’s perhaps the point.

    Ashley hoping AP will leave, thus saving him compensation.

    Ashley brings in Lee Clarke perhaps, local lad, will then make fans happy again and we forget about JK, who’s role get’s made smaller and smaller…

    Could this be a clever move by Ashley?

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  • JP...from The Rock

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:31 PM

    Comment #8

    To say I am depressed about this situation is a huge understatement.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:31 PM

    Comment #9

    Great…so now our own blog is repeating spurious comments about our own staff…

    Kinnear never claimed to give Carroll his debut, he claimed to give him his first home start, which is true. Versus West Ham in January 2009.

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  • Edd Case

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    Comment #10

    ToonDarnSarf

    You might be technically right on that small point however, did he buy Krul – no, but he says he did.
    Explain that one…

    And then try to explain ALL of the other cock-up-claims made by JK

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  • jonobbad

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:34 PM

    Comment #11

    Tds
    Give it a rest.
    JFK is a waste of space.

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  • NUFCarter

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:34 PM

    Comment #12

    Every NUFC fan has to watch this!
    A great and comic reaction to Joe Kinnears interview!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97-p_hFsFao

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  • jonobbad

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    Comment #13

    Actually ed case @10 put it better.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    Comment #14

    The bloke says alot of things about 3% of it is normally true

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  • leeb1982

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    Comment #15

    Im another who has had enough of what’s going on at our club and have unwillingly decided not to renew. I don’t blame people who decide to keep going. But if the same people roll up week in week out and buy new tops buy food and drink at the games then things will never improve. Ashley is delighted that he can hire cr@p who are unemployed pay them peanuts compared to quality managers who have options other than us and still get 50000 who keep the profits rolling. So if people are happy to go along like this then fair enough but I have had enough and ain’t gonna come on here and moan about the state of our club and then continue to fund his advertising space. How many protests have been done now? Do they care? No.

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  • shamsoftabriz

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    Comment #16

    Pardew is a smart manager. Professional, committed, and forward-thinking. In other words, he’s not the kind of manager Ashley can tolerate. If this is some ploy to get him out the door, it reflects poorly on Ashley’s judgment. It may ALSO get Carr out the door, which would leave us pretty much FUBAR. Pardew could have bolted for greener pastures when things were all sunshine and roses last year, but he didn’t. He committed to us. What a stupid way to treat a good manager. That’s what Ashley does…he treats good people badly. Ask Chris Hughton.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    Comment #17

    Edd Case

    I’m not even going to try and explain the rest. But he’s perfectly capable of making an idiot of himself without us giving him a helping hand…

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  • Belfast

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    Comment #18

    If he toes the party line this time he really is a mug.

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  • TurkishFan101

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    Comment #19

    Joke In Here players sold in total in his whole career and that is 54 players £31m.

    Alan Pardew’s first season here and he sold 1 player Andy Carroll “£35m + addons”

    This Joke In Here claims he is world best negotiator and how he bangs on about he sold “I sold X Y and Z to these clubs and made massive profits”

    Dumb twat, even though Andy Carroll was not given a choice by Pardew, he was sold under him. So who wins? Pardew first season here £35m profit. I have not added all the other players that have gone under Pardew.

    Joke In Here whole career profit of £31m.

    Director Of Fottball hey?

    What about Director Of Comedy 🙂

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  • JP...from The Rock

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    Comment #20

    What a bunch of clowns we have running this club, it looks like Pardew is the most professional of the lot. I feel sorry for him having to be so undermined publically.

    Sad times ahead indeed 🙁

    These sort of things in our beloved club makes me want to quit football altogether and watch some other sport, honestly. I can’t bare support another football team and I can’t stand the shite we have to endure with this club any longer. If it ends in tears which is the most likely I will seriously consider my hobbies and interests.

    If I feel sick and I can only imagine how Pardew must feel. Poor old Sir Bobby must be trying to pull all sorts of strings from the heavens to save us from this latest mess we’re in.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    Comment #21

    NUFCarter
    Quality mate!!
    “Derek lamwhat!!! Lambreezy is that geezer slang talk”
    Lol

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    Comment #22

    If Kinnear is based at Benton … he’s bound to interfere with training and get involved in tactics and plans for the opposition.
    Unless his office faces the car park or has no windows.
    I bet he’s already ironed JFK onto a Wonga tracksuit.

    Pardew’s screwed. I wanted Pardew out because of the hoofball. I guess Kinnear will play 442 and buy wingers and forwards?
    Not a lot we can do about this except watch with disbelief and open mouths as the second act of this tragicomedy unfolds.

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  • Williamson is Bramble in disguise

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    Comment #23

    Ed, you obviously missed the last paragraph of Pards’s statement,

    ” As everyone knows having managed less games than myself, and having won a manager of the year award and imagining another 2, Joe is the most experienced footballing man at the club. He has also had great success in a similar role at Oxford and Luton according to himself, before making himself manager of Luton and avoiding relegation. “

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  • tequilamag

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    Comment #24

    Turkishfan, I respect your opinion but think that a boycott would serve no purpose as I don`t see how it would make the slightest bit of difference. MA has the hide of an elephant and has proved time after time he cares little for what the fans think. The one time he tried to curry favour it backfired spectacularly and based on the reaction he got after KK was sacked would be bloody minded enough to stick to his guns and if that hacked off the supporters he would not lose any sleep over it.

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  • jonobbad

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:42 PM

    Comment #25

    Nufcarter
    Only 5 mins through so far but that guy is funny as f**k.

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  • Edd Case

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    Comment #26

    JK is a bloody idiot with a bad attitude, appalling vocabulary and an out of date and out of touch footballing knowledge.

    He is a complete and utter PR disaster and a volcanic eruption of incompetence just waiting to erupt.

    Like Balotelli once famously said….

    “We always me?”

    Just apply that to NUFC…

    “Why always NUFC?”

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  • Yorkgeordie

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    Comment #27

    How many ‘directors of football’ can you name? Fact is they are largely anonymous and carry on their work in the background. The best thing Kinnear can do is follow suit and stop giving interviews. If he does this we might be able to kid ourselves he isn’t there.

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    Comment #28

    Repost before I head off

    DarnSarf

    We simply disagree. He’s insulted the fans and misrepresented the club by coming across like a deluded old fool.

    If decent on field performances is all it takes to placate you then I am afraid we will not see much change at our club in the foreseeable future.

    If you would rather Pardew as opposed to an ambitious young manager with modern ideas, and if you would rather JFK than a specialised Director of Football with modern contacts in the game then that’s your prerogative.

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  • Belfast

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    Comment #29

    Kinnear is travelling to all the games with the first team squad aswell.

    They’d need to be best mates for this farce to work, cant see it myself.

    Think Kinnear could probably be in charge before the season kicks off.

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  • JP...from The Rock

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    Comment #30

    If we didn’t have problems with moral and team spirit in the dressing room with this latest twat on board we definitely will! He’s barely been here a couple of days and already has upset so many people. Most noticeably Sammy Ameobi with his tweet.

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  • foggonridiculous

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    Comment #31

    Re-post

    I think many of us are in a state of shock.

    JFK back at Toon is a fait accompli

    I am not as “gen-ed” up as the eloquent Toon darn sarf who makes some valid, reasoned points on financial matters and I accept that we have to live within our means but …and isn’t this the point…could we not have done better than the two appointments of AP and JFK?
    Giving AP an unprecedented 8 year deal, rather than 3 or 4, was another error.

    Other clubs seem able to do their homework and come up with competent managers.
    Swansea have had a succession of, apparently, successful managers of late ..and seem solvent.
    David Moyes achieved a degree of success and stayed
    within Everton’s cash restraints.

    Paul Lambert got Norwich back in the top flight and seems to have steadied the ship at Villa.

    Just as there are players that are a good fit for the toon..surely to God there is a manager out there with potential who – like Moyes, Lambert, Martinez did a job for “not-top-six outfits” – could do a job for us instead of MA taking what looks like a gambler’s punt on a mate..

    I accept that Keegan – like JFK – had long been out of the game before he managed us.

    I also think Llambias – did us (and himself) no favours with future transfer negotiations after his drunken rant about how Mike had done Liverpool up like kippers over the Carroll deal…even if every word was true…

    As for Steven Taylor – it probably wasn’t his best quote…but we would have been in even more trouble if he had let the Police look into how he ended up needing his jaw wired after an (alleged) coming together with Andy Carroll.

    We are where we are…I hope it works out and does not end up as another opportunity missed.
    Fingers crossed…prayer mats out…it’s business as usual at SJP!

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  • woolerbill

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    Comment #32

    NO PLACE TO GO, NO PLACE TO HIDE
    ASHLEY’S MANAGEMENT do not have a C.V between them to take a team forward, just a holding one till he can sell. He can afford to do this as he TV money and 52,000
    of us with some 32,000,000 to fill his pocket, he laughing all the way to the bank.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    Comment #33

    Toon darn sarf

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1571530-mauricio-pochettinos-surging-southampton-continues-revival

    No he wasn’t. Pochettino actually came in and saved Espanyol from relegation and yes the way he has his teams playing I’d have him in a heartbeat.

    Phoenix

    Football is an international language, Pochettino being a case in point.. you sound a bit xenophobic there my friend

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  • toon22

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    Comment #34

    Imo we dont have to worry about JK as a manager of the team,he almost died last time and it isnt the first time he has had a heart attack at work.
    And secondly he claims to be a good football manager but that isnt the job he has take at SJP is it….

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  • lukes26

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:50 PM

    Comment #35

    I’m not going to join Ed in appeasing the blood-thirsty mob.

    This is obviously an attempt to amend the weaknesses that Pardew is perceived to have, especially in integrating Carr’s transfers into his “system”.

    Ashley trusts JK. And for a delicate situation as this, you need someone you can trust.

    Pardew was MOTY 2 seasons ago. He does have ability. This season just illustrated his weaknesses.

    Ed needs to stop following the lynch mob. Jesus, nothing he’s said has been so horrible. Grow up.

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  • Yorkgeordie

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:50 PM

    Comment #36

    Oh and another thing, If Kinnear has so little respect for Geordies, if he hates us so much, why has he taken the job? Answer, because no other club on the planet would give him a job. Think of it, in 9 years (apart from his last spell with us) how many jobs have cropped up in football in England and how many short lists has he been on?

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    Comment #37

    Given it’s Ed’s blog, I do think he can write what he wants…and could he be proffering his own opinion rather than appeasing anyone? God forbid he gave us his own thoughts…

    Anyway, I’m really off now

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  • NUFCarter

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    Comment #38

    TDS
    apparently glenn roeder gave andy carroll his home debut in 2007 when he was 17 as ED said earlier. NOT kinnear.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    Comment #39

    Ruddy

    Honestly, I think we want the same thing at the club. I’d love to see a young up and coming manager at the club who wants to grow with it. Someone like Laudrup (if he could replicate his performance this season) or Martinez (if he could figure out how to set up a defence), but I would worry about an unproven appointment as they could end up being a flash in the pan or just plain terrible from the start. Hindsight is great but there are no guarantees in appointing a manager.

    And yeah, I’d rather see many other people ahead of JFK in the DoF role, but I don’t have that choice sadly.

    I’m hoping that JFK gets rid of the dead wood, signs some corkers, Pardew guides us to consecutive top 8 finishes in the next 2 seasons (the minimum we should expect), the club unearths some young talent, and then Ashley sells the (debt free) club to someone who can take it forward so he, Pardew, Llambias and JFK can f off.

    I’m not saying it’s great at the moment, but I do think it’s the only way to get where we want to do…it will hurt more before it gets better…

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  • NUFCarter

    Jun 18, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    Comment #40

    ruddy
    Agreed. his blog hes in control so he can say what ever he likes.

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