Joe Kinnear To Fix Things On The Training Ground


Is it just us,  or is Joe Kinnear being brought in to  “help” Alan Pardew  with the coaching side of things at Newcastle, because if that’s the case, this arrangement will likely not work.

alan pardew dejected

Alan Pardew – put into a difficult situation

The usual job of a Director of Football is to be in charge of transfers both into and out of the club, and Joe has already  talked about doing that job in collusion and in cooperation with Alan Pardew and Chief Scout Graham Carr, whom Joe has known for 20 years

So that’s what a Director of Football usually does, and the coach or manager is responsible for taking those players and getting the best out of them on the field,  and working with them on the training field.

But it looks like Joe thinks he is  going to impinge on the coaching side of things as well.

It certainly seems that way from what Joe has said, and as well as having an office at the Benton Training ground,  he will also be on the training field to  help find what has gone wrong on the football side of things.

This is what Joe said in the Daily Mirror today:

“We have the financial side right, now let’s get the football side right. Newcastle should be rubbing shoulders with the top teams.”

“They are pointing the finger at the injuries. Then there is the Europa League. I will be at the training ground to help find what has gone wrong.”

“Let’s hope  Newcastle never find themselves in this ­position again. To go from fifth to 16th is a big slide. The team struggled last year.”

It would be hard for any manager to work in this type of situation, because if you are being judged on the performance of the team, which Pardew is – that’s how he gets his bonuses,  you just have to be given full responsibility of  the tactics during the game, and the coaching on the training field in preparation for the games.

We hope we are wrong on this, because it seems that if Joe is really going to do what he’s talking about – this partnership with Alan Pardew will simply not work.

Are we missing something here?

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184 comments so far

  • jeff

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:00 AM

    Comment #1

    hmm.we have alot of knowledge now that we have kinnear,pardew and carr working under derik lambezee.there are no excuses for this year since now we basically have two managers for the price of 1.i can easily see us challenging top 6 next year if we make a few crucial signing.if we get bent and maybe a winger like matt jarvis then a midfielder like charlie adam, we could be in for a right good season.

    some solid youngsters aswell would be great.jay spearing will be available and id like to see us try to get players who will work harder for the team.

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  • Newcastle Brown Alien

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:01 AM

    Comment #2

    I still don’t know what his role actually is, he will direct football, but won’t get involved with the team, but will get involved with the team and not involved with transfers but will approve and look at transfers. Has he just made up what his role is?

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  • archaeomag

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:02 AM

    Comment #3

    Doubt he could find the training ground without assistance.

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  • AMEOBI

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:02 AM

    Comment #4

    Luke Thorpe: I heard Yohan wasn’t happy with it, imagine how is wife Donna felt 😉

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  • AMEOBI

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:03 AM

    Comment #5

    I heard Yohan wasn’t happy with it, imagine how is wife Donna felt 😉

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  • TurkishFan101

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:03 AM

    Comment #6

    Jeff go melt your cheese with other mackem trolls. You need to grow up.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:04 AM

    Comment #7

    I personally think if Kinnear interferes with tactics, Pardew will be off.

    How about a situation where Joe walks into pre-season and says to Pardew, that Haidara is not good enough, he is going.

    Pards and Carr will be like, hold on, we just signed him he’s in my plans for next season.

    How on earth is this going to work?

    I can understand a DOF having an influence bringing players in, but in having players go out aswell?

    Pardew will be no more than a jumped up first team coach. The only thing Kinnear won’t have control over will be the tactics..

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  • jimmysmith

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:06 AM

    Comment #8

    Adam is better than some of the previous comments give him credit for. Inspirational at Blackpool, magnificent passing range and gets stuck in, just not Liverpool quality cos he is a fat b@stard, so not good enough to start for us either.

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  • kevymartins

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:08 AM

    Comment #9

    @Turkishfan May I ask you what the word peach means in turkey?

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  • archaeomag

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:08 AM

    Comment #10

    NUFC have a remarkable ability to p1ss in their own chips!

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  • TurkishFan101

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:08 AM

    Comment #11

    @jimmysmith hope you are only saying that to stop jeff from crying. 🙂

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  • manxpie

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:09 AM

    Comment #12

    bloody hell if this is a direct quote pardew must be pulling his hair out!
    he certainly needs to make his stand on this and i hope he tells jk to stick his fat arse up a ducks backside!!!
    the main problem from last season was the investment in the summer!!
    it seems his appointment is trying to get away from that obvious failure so i see a very bad summer again 🙁

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  • TurkishFan101

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:12 AM

    Comment #13

    @kevymartins I think you are referring to “Piç” the ç is pronounced as “j” many meanings but all are foul language

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  • kevymartins

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:13 AM

    Comment #14

    @Turkishfan Yea I asked for a peach in kusadasi before and It sure wasn’t pritty lol

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  • TurkishFan101

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:14 AM

    Comment #15

    If you are want translation for the fruit, its simply “?eftali”

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  • JAMSHA

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:14 AM

    Comment #16

    mrng lads its,5:44am.n.i stll se jfk fkng around on every site.. il better sleep

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  • jimmysmith

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:14 AM

    Comment #17

    Yeah, I’ve got a soft spot for Jeff, then again I’ve got one for Joe too, so clearly what the f@ck do I know.

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  • TurkishFan101

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:15 AM

    Comment #18

    ?eftali in english the “?” is pronunced as “sh”

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  • TurkishFan101

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:16 AM

    Comment #19

    Its not letting me type the turkish “s” always comes up as ?. This blog is racist 😀

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  • Tommyy

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:18 AM

    Comment #20

    This is extremely intruding, this should be kept in house. Why is he still talking to the damn media?

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  • matt11_25

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:20 AM

    Comment #21

    He clearly is referring to all the injuries on the training ground ffs ED. let it rest mate.

    He’s passionate. He has a history of good transfers on a low budget. He doesn’t give a f**k what the media/fans think. He can’t pronounce a damn thing – these footballers today deserve to be taken down a peg anyway.

    I like him.

    Quit your mingin

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:20 AM

    Comment #22

    It’s like Mike and Derek are just letting Kinnear walk all over Pardew.

    No class what so ever.

    You have got to think Pardew must be seething and will surely be thinking about where this is heading.

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  • TALKOFTHETOON

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:25 AM

    Comment #23

    just gets worse.
    also, shut up jeff

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  • jimmysmith

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:26 AM

    Comment #24

    Ed, please no more time and space given to Freddy Shepherd, especially images of him openly mocking us at St James’.

    It really is far too cruel, particularly in light of current events.

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  • lesh

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:30 AM

    Comment #25

    Disgraceful behaviour, he should have told to get out after Sundays outburst of drivel.

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  • TurkishFan101

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:32 AM

    Comment #26

    @matt11_25 yeah mate sure, just like how he brought in Krul, Perch. Ill tell you who has good history on transfers and profits.

    Alan Pardew made £35m profit in his first season here from one player.

    Joke In Here dold 54 players bin every managerial stats combined and he made £31m profit.

    JOKE IN HERE 😀

    You are confused matt

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  • jeff

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:35 AM

    Comment #27

    Theres a thing called inflation turkey boy.turst me 35 mil in the 90s cold bye the best toplayers in the world immediately.35 mil and ull be lucky to get a top 40 player.btw carroll if he stayed would of gone onto be the best stricker for this club imo.pace power speed shot all the attritbutes to be one of the best ever.pardew sold a boy with bucketloads of potential.kinear sold off old players

    Btw calling the blog rascist cause you can type an s…pathetic

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:41 AM

    Comment #28

    “We have the financial side right, now let’s get the football side right. Newcastle should be rubbing shoulders with the top teams.”

    “They are pointing the finger at the injuries. Then there is the Europa League. I will be at the training ground to help find what has gone wrong.”

    “Let’s hope Newcastle never find themselves in this ­position again. To go from fifth to 16th is a big slide. The team struggled last year.”

    Love it how Joe highlights all the good of the “financial” side of things as if his employers are doing a wonderful job here.

    And then proceeds to divert all blame of NUFC’s current plight down to the coaching staff and players.

    Joe, you can be seen through like a sheet of glass.

    Your employers are to blame greatly Joe, alot more than the players, managing and coaching set-up are for this whole situation, or the slide as you call it.

    This bloke must think we are “stupid”. Dear me.

    Im off to get some work done, this bloke is completely annoying.

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  • TurkishFan101

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:42 AM

    Comment #29

    @jeff is this guy serious? Anyway, jeff finish up your cheesy chips and sleep, way past your bed time.

    I dont know if you are doing this on purpose but you sound stupid lol, every post from you has been… well nothing to say as its that bad.

    Good night to the rest, take care lads speak tomorrow.

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  • nufcusa

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:44 AM

    Comment #30

    I am tired of the negativity surrounding this situation. Ok, so nobody expected/wanted this but it has happened so we need to accept it even though we may not want it.

    Kinnear has made some poor judgement calls in his media conferences but underneath the errors he has made some valid and passionate viewpoints. Sadly, these have been overshadowed by the misgivings.

    Surely we all hope this works? If not then those that don’t should leave the blog, the great city of Newcastle and support another team. After all any supporter who does not want success for thei team is not really a supporter.

    Parades needed help and was given it. Not what we expected but it may just work. Every single media outlet has focused on the negative, including Ed. It is BS and now we have our feelings off our chest lets see what happens.

    Fixtures come out tomorrow. New season, new hope and all that. Jump off the bandwagon of negativity and let’s see if we can move forward.

    Support the Toon. It’s your duty!

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  • Tommyy

    Jun 19, 2013 at 1:55 AM

    Comment #31

    NUFCusa – We do want success, which is why we’re fervently against this decision.

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  • matt11_25

    Jun 19, 2013 at 2:04 AM

    Comment #32

    turkish

    u cant really apply an outlier that is andy carroll & liverfool as a standard. jfk has a good transfer record in accordance with the budgets he has had.
    now u r confused. see?

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  • nufcusa

    Jun 19, 2013 at 2:04 AM

    Comment #33

    Tommyy – I get that, but we can’t Chang it so what does fighting it do ?

    The sad thing is that if we win a cup and finish top 6 the same people crucifying Ashley et al will be calling for a statue and freedom the city.

    The national media love a nufc story and our reactions keep feeding them. We need to be bigger than what they expect and if the club make poor judgements it doesn’t mean our entire fan base needs to!

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  • matt11_25

    Jun 19, 2013 at 2:19 AM

    Comment #34

    amen nufcusa

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  • canada_nufc

    Jun 19, 2013 at 3:29 AM

    Comment #35

    Lads….

    pic.twitter.com/46jZkTdCkT

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  • Stevenage Magpie

    Jun 19, 2013 at 3:51 AM

    Comment #36

    @Tommy (20): I agree this all should have been done in the background, he should not have been allowed to talk to the media. If they felt he was needed them let him do whatever he has to do then during the season maybe say “oh we brought Joe Kinnear in pre season to take Llambias place on the footballing front” then maybe it wouldn’t have been made in such a big deal by the media and therefore stopped us from becoming the premier league laughing stock again

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  • Santon03

    Jun 19, 2013 at 5:18 AM

    Comment #37

    There are many good things on Kinnear appointment, I think it’s not crazy decission.
    Now the claws are nolonger on pardew but on Kinnear, and Kinnear is the perfect guy to get some attentions away from others just look at this blog. It’s taking the attentions away from pardew, players, and transfer targets.
    If Kinnear’s role is only for transfers including manager, he will be the perfect guy or weapon to give pardew wake up call because he will say it like it is. As Kinnear said he will move any mediocre away from the club, it could also mean mediocre manager. So far the subtle way doesn’t win things for us, maybe less subtle way could work.
    It’s interesting time for me.
    As for Freddie Shepperd’s comment, he just want to look as the good guy in front of the fans, he wants to stir things up.

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  • gonufc (not Arf' bad)

    Jun 19, 2013 at 5:31 AM

    Comment #38

    Two more little things have annoyed me since the initial news of this came out and that interview.

    1. People saying that Joe Kinnear “Tells it like it is”. He does not. He has lied/ been mistaken in every interview he has given so far. This bluntness really doesn’t count when you are lying- it is just being obnoxious and a bully.

    2. The names. Considering this man will be in charge of communicating with clubs to sign players is it not worrying to anyone else that he doesn’t know anyone’s name properly?

    It’s not too hard to imagine that he could buy the wrong player! Some may say this is far fetched but I think it’s a fair concern considering that really is his only job!

    Imagine if there were two players at a club, a top player called Hatem Ben Arfa and a 34 year old tug boat called Benjamin Afri.
    “Hi, I’ll offer 5 million euros for Ben Afri….”

    (slightly tongue in cheek, but it’s still really irritating)

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  • Santon03

    Jun 19, 2013 at 5:35 AM

    Comment #39

    gonufc

    Really? You are not making things up, are you?

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  • gonufc (not Arf' bad)

    Jun 19, 2013 at 5:38 AM

    Comment #40

    @Santon – making what up? Did you think I was saying we were genuinely buying Benjamin Afri?

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