Latest Newcastle Mess Was Caused By Joe Kinnear – Fact


Usually when big organization changes are made at a company, you get all your facts together – decide who has which roles, and then ensure there is no overlap, and then announce it in a coordinated and intelligent way – so the employees understand it, and that it indeed makes good sense.

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Joe Kinnear – when Newcastle manager

So that’s how it’s done at good companies, but what happened with Newcastle this week was nothing like that.

We heard from Joe Kinnear on Sunday night, that he was going to become the new Director of Football at Newcastle, and not only that, but that Derek LLambias would also resign his position.

And we thought that last piece was tosh (to use Joe’s own words) – but lo and behold Derek resigned from his Managing Director position at Newcastle this morning.

When a person in the know leaks information to the press, like Joe did on Sunday night – it completely undermines the organization he’s working for.

And after leaking the stuff on Sunday night, Joe should have been told in no uncertain terms from either Mike Ashley or Llambias or both, to stop talking about his new position until it was announced by the club.

But that didn’t happen, and Joe went on talkSPORT on Monday night and embarrassed himself and embarrassed Newcastle United – the club he now represents at an executive level – by making misstatements and mispronouncing the names of a number of Newcastle’s very best players.

The powers that be at Newcastle should not have allowed that to happen on Monday night, given that Joe had already leaked stuff the previous evening.

If Joe Kinnear is going to become an executive at Newcastle, there are at least two things he must learn and learn quickly – to keep secrets and to be discreet – and if he cannot do that, he will never last in the job.

And as a good example of someone who can keep secrets is – Alan Pardew – whatever you think of Alan as a coach at the club, he has always acted with discretion, dignity and common sense in interviews.

So it’s up to Joe now – if he is going to continue to undermine Newcastle, like he’s already done on Sunday night and Monday night – even before Newcastle announced his new position officially, he’s just not going to hack it.

Newcastle have not handled the situation very well this week – but the truth is they have been completely undermined by their new Director of Football

Joe must shape up quickly – and for the sake of Newcastle United – we hope he does just that – but time is of the essence.

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31 comments so far

  • Scotty

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    Comment #1

    I’m running out of ways on how to defend Ashley…. He has well and truly dropped a reet clanger here!

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  • Dondatta13

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    Comment #2

    Ashley’s club… Buck stops with him IMHO

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  • yo-yo

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    Comment #3

    The Mirror are just rubbish at arithemetic . One and one make eight…. Llambezee was already toast before JFK opened his mouth.
    I’m sure AP considered his position but his survival instincts took over.
    The roller coaster that is the Toon will be VERY interesting the next few weeks..
    One bit of awful news followed by one bit of good news followed by ???

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  • nufc786

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    Comment #4

    ashley has to lay the smackdown on kinnear to keep his mouth shut….. transfer business will become increasingly difficult to keep down

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  • popscott

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    Comment #6

    Joe was pissed, got a semi on and thought I’ll tell the world, wa al the same after 10 pints! 😉

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  • Scotty

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:18 PM

    Comment #7

    I don’t believe for one minute that JFK flapped his gums without the nod from Ashley – that’s a worrying thought!!!

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  • popscott

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:20 PM

    Comment #8

    Detract from wonga, p everyone off, new half decent signing. Sorted!

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:20 PM

    Comment #9

    i think Ashley is amazing, hot, sexy, smart, what i would do to be with someone with great taste in sexy clothing, i would would rip Ashley’s clothes off bit by bit with my own teeth,

    honestly lads watch HER on WWE she is hot.

    i bet i knew what you’s were thinking lol

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  • Joe Blog

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:21 PM

    Comment #10

    FACT!

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  • nufc786

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    Comment #11

    lol

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  • Belfast

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    Comment #12

    Couldn’t care how or why he left.
    Just glad the little worm is gone.

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  • jimmysmith

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:26 PM

    Comment #13

    First order of business, have the liquor cabinet removed from the new DoF’s office.

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  • Dondatta13

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    Comment #14

    Belfast…

    If that same worm left because he didnt wish to be associated with this club… What does THAT say about our club?

    Also how would you feel if Carr was next away?

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  • AMEOBI

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    Comment #15

    Perfect comment here, I agree totally..

    scout // Jun 19, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    Nice one Joe, loving the pacey wingers comment. Back to basics, this poxy continental styles no good. 442 at home let’s get some goals. Not an isolated striker all the time.
    He sees the problems I’m telling you, this is gonna work out well. I’m warming to Kinnear, lads give the bloke a chance.

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  • TurkishFan101

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    Comment #16

    Hi lads, good night as I see.

    I for one am glad we didn’t waste that sort of money and wages on Carroll and even if we could, who says we would when the cockney mafia are here.

    If Graham Carr goes as well I will truly big sad and quit this blog and stop supporting NUFC and go with Dortmund instead. Graham Carr is worth more than our whole staff combined together and if he leaves, I just could not take it anymore. So if it truly happens, I will leave, quit until new regime takes over.

    Without Graham Carr, we would be buying free agent rejects, rejects from other clubs and that will lead to destruction of the club..

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:31 PM

    Comment #17

    jimmysmith

    please don’t mention alcohol mate , i went to see my my alcoholic therapist today and he said that i had a drinking problem but i said i haven’t got a problem i like it :()

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:31 PM

    Comment #18

    meant to be 🙂

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  • Korzic

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    Comment #19

    Dondatta13 // Jun 19, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    And now the independent is running with the Carr next question…

    >> I’m sure it’s been generally rumoured that Carr was the one who kiboshed the Douglas deal.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    Comment #20

    So now Carr is on the brink of quitting..

    You know, this has got to be the most maddest decision I’v witnessed in football. Throwing a grenade into the only policy that was working correctly at a club that has just come off the end of a very testing season.

    The bother it seems to have caused, the club is an absolute shambles right now. But, for what? This bloke has no expertise in this field what so ever? No credentials at all. What an absolute clanger Mike Ashley has dropped here.

    The way he has took to the job, and behaved since sunday is an absolute disgrace and proves he is not even fit to be in such a high position at the club.

    Is there anyone Joe Kinnear has not upset who is involved with NUFC since Sunday with his behaviour?

    You couldn’t sit down and write this stuff man haha.

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  • Black and White with an army lol

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    Comment #21

    AMEOBI

    true mate, i mean who else is gonna be fast enough to run back into defense 😉

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:36 PM

    Comment #22

    Ed got it absolutely bang on the other day.

    Would any other Premier League club recruit him into this position? Or any club for that matter?

    Absolute barmy. There is no other words for it.

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  • jimmysmith

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:36 PM

    Comment #23

    Llambias had his strengths and weaknesses, I’m sure he’s a loss after having gained 5 years experience and on the financial side may well be badly missed.

    Joe on the other hand has proven so far to be a one man gobshite wrecking ball. God only knows the state the club’ll be in at the end of the week or perish the thought by the start of the season.

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  • popscott

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    Comment #24

    Maybe joe has a few gambling debts or fat lad is running out of mates in football. JFK probably on sports direct wages?

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jun 19, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    Comment #25

    Honestly,

    I wouldn’t give Joe twenty quid a week.

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  • lesh

    Jun 20, 2013 at 12:40 AM

    Comment #26

    Ed. There’s no way that Joe Kinnear is going to change. He’s 66 years old and set in his ways and a disgrace to the club.

    Silk purse sows ear come to mind?

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  • maz

    Jun 20, 2013 at 12:47 AM

    Comment #27

    Derek Llambias did not resign as a result of Kinnear’s appointment. Llambias has been contemplating moving on for approx 9 mths now(very reliable source). The unfortunate thing was that Mr soccer brain Ashley replaced him with the most unproffesional, uneducated, public relations nightmare thats had the misfortune to grace this club. God knows where we go from here.

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  • micbush

    Jun 20, 2013 at 1:00 AM

    Comment #28

    Turkish fan? You’ll stop supporting Newcastle if Graham Carr Leaves?
    Excuse my language, but you can f right off.

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  • micbush

    Jun 20, 2013 at 1:04 AM

    Comment #29

    TurkishFan101

    If Graham Carr leaves you will stop supporting Newcastle, and start supporting Dortmund.

    F*** off. You are the worst type of football fan.

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  • Howden Mag

    Jun 20, 2013 at 2:04 AM

    Comment #30

    Dondatta13
    Hey up you should hear the names I give to players, I’m getting on a bit, I get their names wrong, I do not intend to insult the person. I have got a degree, in common sense, which sadly seams to be lacking in other quarters. I have played and watched football for over 55 years and I have my beliefs in how football should played. Ideally, 1,4,5 and every game would end 11.9 and then celebrate in the toon with a canny bevvy. Alas realistically , we may be subject to 442,351,4231 or even 46. Bayern use wingers, Barca don’t use forwards, the Toon don’t use either, sort of. Anyway, whether Kinnear says he knows more than us fans, just because he has been a manager, manager in the premier league, first team player in a top English team and an International full back may give him more intelligence than the average Geordie football fan on football. That is hard to believe. We have watched Billy Whitehurst, Franz Pingle, Rob MacDonald, John McNamee as well as Ginola, Beardsley, Green, Speed, Shearer. Et al.

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  • taker83

    Jun 20, 2013 at 5:02 AM

    Comment #31

    Alan Pardew has 8 years of contract.If Assley sack him, He has to pay massive amount so, Joe Kinnear is appointed to force Pardew to resign himself.Then, lambass will rejoin NUFC.Kinnear will get another health setback n resign.Chapter close.Just an imagination.

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