News in the Journal today that Newcastle have increased their interest in Blackpool winger Tom Ince, although Newcastle have been linked with the player for at least a year now.
Tom Ince – Newcastle interested again
The 21 year-old son of former Manchester United great Paul Ince can bring goals to Newcastle, and he has tremendous skills, and since joining Blackpool from Liverpool two years ago he has scored 26 goals in 88 appearances.
And if you believe the news of the last week, since Joe Kinnear was appointed the Director of Football, it would seem that Joe thinks Newcastle needs more British based players in the squad and is therefore siding a bit with manager Alan Pardew.
Newcastle are said to have pulled out of the race for 25 year-old Brazilian Douglas, a free agent, and Newcastle now seem to have 29 year-old striker Darren Ben of Aston Villa, and 24 year-old center-back James Tomkins of West Ham in their sights.
Each of these players would seem to have reasonable transfer fees with Bent and Tomkins probably around £5M each, but Tom Ince could be more expensive than that, depending on which clubs go after him, and his former club Liverpool are said to be interested in taking him back to Anfield.
Probably the most controversial of the three is Darren Bent, and he doesn’t fit the blueprint of players Newcastle are usually after, but he can score goals in the Premier League, and Newcastle fans by a margin of just less than two to one, think we should get him to the club if we can get the fee at around £5M.
These three players could be good business if we could get them to the club for around £15M in total, but after Mike Ashley spent at least £18M in January, we’re not sure how much money Joe Kinnear will be given this summer, as he leads the recruitment drive.
But bringing in some English players would be good to balance out the squad after we brought in another five Frenchmen in January.
What do you think?
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31 comments so far
Mr Funk
Jun 24, 2013 at 9:41 AM
Comment #1Re-post
@ Lilo
I have the view that the burden of proof is on those who make a claim.
Anyway, why use hearsay, when you can just say i don’t like what is being done.
lesh
Jun 24, 2013 at 9:42 AM
Comment #2three Englishmen? Why not four – Eany, Meany Mynie and Mo?
rainrix
Jun 24, 2013 at 9:43 AM
Comment #3Ince is the only one worth jack there. No doubt thought if we did step up interest his dad would start spouting stuff about how we wouldn’t be good enough for his golden boy.
Mr Funk
Jun 24, 2013 at 9:44 AM
Comment #4I think Nathan Redmond is another possible transfer target
rainrix
Jun 24, 2013 at 9:45 AM
Comment #5Lesh…. Because mynies actually an albanian immigrant ;).
yo-yo
Jun 24, 2013 at 9:45 AM
Comment #6Please can we get off this stupid rumour about Poyet.
He has clearly annoyed the Brightion Board despite his relative swuccess to get suspended for gross misconduct here but the reasons have not been publicised yet. Do we really want another dodgy geezer with racist tendencies ?
In no way is he an upgrade on Pardew and the insults being thrown around here by protagonists are kid’s playground stuff.
If we are going to buy English players then I’d be knocking on Burnley’s door about Charlie Austin. He’ll be hungry and has got it all to prove.
TorqToon
Jun 24, 2013 at 9:45 AM
Comment #7Rain – You are probably right mate.
Be a cracking signing like. However don’t believe the links for tomkins and bent.
Bent for next to no money – then yeah. But for 5mil?? Not for me.
Ben3arfa
Jun 24, 2013 at 9:46 AM
Comment #8Cant believe people believe Bent is good value at 5m quid .. Wtf
scout
Jun 24, 2013 at 9:46 AM
Comment #9Brilliant stuff, nice one Joe now get them over the line.
rainrix
Jun 24, 2013 at 9:49 AM
Comment #10Torq… i wouldn’t take bent for that money either and i’d hope the management would realise he’s far to similar to cisse for them to form a decent partnership. Annoyingly these rumours are quite persistent. 😐
scout
Jun 24, 2013 at 9:50 AM
Comment #11Bent is superb value for 5 million, you’d probably get 2 for shola.
Krul
Dubuchy colo Tompkins santon
Arfa cabaye tiote ince
Cisse bent
scout
Jun 24, 2013 at 9:53 AM
Comment #122 up front, joe knows, 3 home games 0 goals.
Lilongwe Geordie
Jun 24, 2013 at 9:53 AM
Comment #13Lesh,
Yeah, saw the link, listened to the song, liked and downloaded! 🙂 Cheers!!
Mr Funk,
My point is, 90% of what we are debating about is hearsay. If people didn’t form opinions on these things then there would be no point posting. Also, 100% agree on Redmond, and he is supposedly available at 2-3million.
Yoyo,
Definitely, Charlie Austin would be a very good signing as a back up/young striker to grow into the team. I think Burnley are looking for 8million though. In my eyes, better 8 on him then 5 on Bent.
Bent is a definite no for me, unless it is a free, with potential add ons if he does well for us, and he is on heavily incentivised pay contract for 1 or 2 years with an automatic extra year if he scores x amount of goals.
Tomkins, at 2-3 million I would take him. Can play across the back 4 and in the DM role, is better then Willo, and fitter and at least on a par with Taylor. West Ham wanted 10mill for him though, so I think that is a no go.
shroomnufc
Jun 24, 2013 at 9:55 AM
Comment #14Cardiff have agreed with Blackpool for ince. Oh well he was terrible fir england under 21 s .
Lilongwe Geordie
Jun 24, 2013 at 9:56 AM
Comment #15Scout,
Cisse and Bent in the same team? I could have understood you wanting him to put pressure on Cisse, or to rotate but they definitely wouldn’t work as a pairing!
Goodfella
Jun 24, 2013 at 9:56 AM
Comment #16Would only take Ince out of the three.
Lilongwe Geordie
Jun 24, 2013 at 9:58 AM
Comment #17Shroom,
Where do you get that info from?
NEWEXPATMAGPIE
Jun 24, 2013 at 9:58 AM
Comment #18Jermaine Lens is signed by Dynamo Kiev for 9 Mil !
Dries Mertens is going to Napoli for 9,5 Mil !
Adam Mahler is on his way to Ajax for 7,5 Mil !
Who do we get?
Bent, Tompkins and Ince ? The only one of them i,d seriously want is Ince !
Says it all really does,nt it?
Mr Funk
Jun 24, 2013 at 10:00 AM
Comment #19@ Lilo
I agree that all we have is rumour and hearsay but what annoys me is that people pass off the rumour as fact.
You can form an opinion on stats, which people have done but it is when people respond to BS press reports as fact, then it really gets my goat!
toonaids
Jun 24, 2013 at 10:02 AM
Comment #20News has it Kinnear has also enquired about Rickie Lambert of Southampton which i think alot of us would welcome as well as Steve Butler from Kent who is on a free and will be celebrating his 51st birthday this year.
scout
Jun 24, 2013 at 10:03 AM
Comment #21Cisse with wild boy shots and Darren following in, I reckon they would pair up nicely. Bent is a top finisher, you have to think he would notch at least 15 a season
Lilongwe Geordie
Jun 24, 2013 at 10:07 AM
Comment #22Mr Funk,
Yeah, I immediately discount anyone who puts “FACT” in their post, unless they are doing it in jest or can post actual evidence to back it up!
The thing is, even when you get actual quotes from players there is no real reason to actually believe them, anything can happen in football, as NUFC fans well know, that what is true one day isn’t the next.
Eg. Carroll saying he wanted to stay at the club for his career and become as big a legend as Alan Shearer, and then 1 month later darting off to Liverpool. I don’t doubt he meant what he said, but..
scout
Jun 24, 2013 at 10:08 AM
Comment #23Nani would be a better signing than ince but we have no chance of signing him. Also think these players listed martens etc are beyond us at the minute
jeff
Jun 24, 2013 at 10:15 AM
Comment #24krul
debuchy coloccini taylor santon
ben arfa cabaye marveaux gouffran ferguson
cisse
toonaids
Jun 24, 2013 at 10:16 AM
Comment #25Lilo
Carroll did want to play for us and become a legend, who would wanna go to liverpool. He was given an option
you can stay but the improved terms arent that improved meaning hell be on an average wage…..
or
you can go to liverpool for £100,00 a week and get us £35 million
sounds like to me that was a push from ashley. MA has no loyalty, its all about money. We whinge about played get loads of money but no one wonders how much those at the top get. If i was carroll i would happily cut ties with my home town club to earn more money when obviously MA and DL didnt rate him enough to pay him more but rated him enough to sell him for £35 million. No brainer sale to be honest concerning business but i feel sorry for the kid.
Sav
Jun 24, 2013 at 10:24 AM
Comment #26Are we aiming for English-based players to ‘balance'(?) the side, or because Joe only knows what he’s seen on MOTD?
Where does MYM play for us next season if Taylor and Colo are fit? RB, LB, one of the two in the centre, defensive midfield or on the bench? Is the versatile Frenchman too good to be the new Perchinho?
shroomnufc
Jun 24, 2013 at 10:27 AM
Comment #27Sorry people miss read info cardiff have agreed to meet 8 mill asking price for tom ince. Why ate english players priced so high?
ArtyH
Jun 24, 2013 at 11:18 AM
Comment #28Bent on a pay as you play deal would be a good idea. I remember thinking the same about sir les when he first came, but he was a sensation, wasnt he! Bent only on a deal where he has to earn his wages rather than being a bench warmer.
ToonMatt
Jun 24, 2013 at 11:20 AM
Comment #29Tom Ince is close to signing for Cardiff after the clubs agreed a fee, I don’t think we are even looking at players at the minute.
HullMag6
Jun 24, 2013 at 12:11 PM
Comment #30Voted yes, as a shola upgrade. We can and should still sign someone better.
Bowzer912
Jun 24, 2013 at 4:32 PM
Comment #31Would love to see:
IN:
Nathan Redmond-2m and Ferguson
Charlie Austin-8m
Tom Ince-8m
Wilfried Bony 12m
Total spend of 30m, if Bony and Cisse go to AFCON then Austin and Gouffran could lead the line (and potentially Campbell).