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Ashley Shocked At This Specific Failure Last Season

9:32 am, Tuesday, June 25th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 47 Comments

We knew that Mehdi Abeid has been told to leave Newcastle and that he was looking for another club, but news today in the Newcastle Journal that 23 year-old Romain Amalfitano has also been told to look for another club.

romain amalfitano at hartlepool

Romain Amalfitano – didn’t work out for the 23 year-old

Romain was signed from Reims last summer as a free agent and he looked decent in the pre-season tour, but he then fell completely out of the picture.

We thought he may get one more season to show what he can do, since it’s always difficult to settle down initially, but Romain will be leaving the club.

But there’s nothing much lost on either side,  as he was signed as a free agent and the club will probably let him leave for free this summer, although they may demand a small fee.

Abeid is interesting Milwall while Nice are said to be interested in signing Amalfitano.

Newcastle will be bringing in young players as well as first team players to the squad this summer, but we haven’t been successful at bringing youngsters through at the club and Abeid, signed two years ago as a free agent from Lens, was thought to be a top star in the making – but it didn’t happen.

One thing that last season showed was that our youngsters were not ready to take up the slack, when there were more games due to Europe – and that’s one reason the Premier League turned out to be a complete disaster – Newcastle’s youngsters were not as good as the club thought they were.

We think that’s why few players were signed last summer.

That’s one reason Joe Kinnear has been brought into the club – and his role extends from the first team recruitment through the Reserves and the Academy – similar to the role Dennis Wise had.

Mike Ashley is said to have been shocked that none of the youngsters stepped up to the plate last season, and that’s one reason the owner wants to shake things up a bit on recruitment – the Youth Policy has simply not worked over the last five years or so, with no players coming through the ranks to the first team.

We suppose if Joe Kinnear can make a bid impact in the recruitment area, that would be what’s needed this summer, but Joe must take a role in the background and let Pardew continue to be the lead to the press and the fans.

Joe has said he will do that – so here’s hoping for the good of the club – and that’s all we are interested in, after all.

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47 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 9:35 AM

    You think that with a manager who plays a style of football to suit our current squad wouldn’t do a better job than Pardew?

    We could still appoint a bargain basement manager, similar to Pardew, but with a different playing style. That would improve the team, the entertainment, get more out of the players. The current squad is more than capable of being 6th-10th. Any higher would require some top additions.

    “the depth of the problems at this time of year” – in what sense. The last 2 summers, by the end of the first week of the window we have made at least 3 signings. Granted, last year we needed more, is that Ashley’s fault for not allowing enough cash, or the people who negotiate deals for being inflexible. If Ashley allowed bids of 5 million for Debuchy, 10million for De Jong, 4million for Douglas, that is 19million. Now, say we decide Simpson Tav and Raylor can cover right back, why couldn’t the negotiators split the Debuchy 5million to get the other 2, the funds are there for it. For my part, I think that is DL’s inflexibility, which might change now he is gone, weshall see. We rectified that in Jan (by Ashley taking negotiations away from DL) and Pardew didn’t improve the style. Results were unlikely to pick up too much as these players were new to the league, but the style of play could have been altered.

    There are certainly more factors to our demise then Pardew’s inability, but he doesn’t see his own flaws, and constantly attempts the same things when it hasn’t been successful previously – Einstien’s definition of madness.

  • 2 rainrix // Jun 25, 2013 at 9:38 AM

    I really dont see the point of spending money on bringing young players like mbabu and Amal in when inevitably they fail. No disrespect to mbabu i’d much rather we invested the 500,000 or whatever we spent on him into the academy and scouting at the grass roots/ youth level. That way we might be able to at least consistently produce players like carroll etc who are PL quality, instead of buying young foreign kids and finding out to late they arent good enough.

  • 3 Transfer Sage // Jun 25, 2013 at 9:39 AM


    I think a manager more suited to the players could do a god job.

    But i think over a course of a season we still would be 7th at best..think our squad isnt as talented as people think.

    The players have great skill but need more than that to win games, which is why these boys have either failed with France or not got into a failing France team.

  • 4 John Tudor // Jun 25, 2013 at 9:43 AM

    watch out he wants to rape your sisters and bomb your ass

  • 5 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 9:45 AM

    I agree, I said our current squad is good enough to be between 6th and 10th, any more would require some top additions.

    I don’t necessarily think they are bad players, but when you compare them to Arsenal/Chelsea/City/United they don’t stand up. Spurs, Liverpool, Everton aren’t far off, and I think Everton will be poorer for having Martinez. If Spurs lose Bale, they will have cash, but will have to spend it very well to replace him. Liverpool could lose Suarez, again lots of money but they have to spend wisely as well.

    Some top additions to width, and up front and we have the potential to push all 3 of them, but only if we get the most out of the squad, which I struggle to see Pardew doing.

  • 6 Transfer Sage // Jun 25, 2013 at 9:47 AM


    We need a balance I think. Make sure we invest plenty in making sure our academy develops kids all the way through the age groups to give us a good chance to get our own kids in the first team.

    When buying players we need two options..either spend good money to get a ready made player or take a gamble with a low fee on a youngster or less experienced player….

    It’s all about judgement, we need very good people with an eye for talent and value making these decisions. Assessing the current needs of the squad, what players we need a proven player in and what area we can gamble and take a chance with a youngster.

  • 7 Transfer Sage // Jun 25, 2013 at 9:49 AM


    I think we need to get out of france…we have exhausted most of the ready made players in our price range…keep looking there for youngsters but we need to look elsewhere for players who are ready to step into the first team.

  • 8 scout // Jun 25, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    I know Pardew gets a lot of stick for us not scoring from corners but officially 89% of corners don’t lead to a goal. That’s across the board so maybe we should just regain possession instead of crossing the ball immediately.

  • 9 Jail for Ashley // Jun 25, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    I am not defending Pards as he obviously played a big part in last seasons failure, but how come a lot of people on here expected the five players to come in and hit the ground running, Redknapp who is regarded as one of the better English manager brought in players with bags of PL experience and couldn’t reverse QPRs fortunes.

  • 10 Transfer Sage // Jun 25, 2013 at 9:52 AM


    some teams, like man utd got 10 goals from corners.

    For teams like us, who seem to struggle to create a lot of the time, need to really cash in on set pieces.

  • 11 G // Jun 25, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    I can understand the dissapointment in these two, but not all our young fringe players signed recently can be coutned as failures. Curtis Good looked decent last year for Bradford, Gail Bingirimana looks like a future star in the making, and the jury is still out on Harris Vukic. Those are just a few examples, but I think it’s a little early to press the panic button and say the system doesn’t work.

  • 12 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 9:53 AM

    Prodigy,(From Previous)
    I agree, Ashley has hired the wrong person to be in charge of first team affairs, I also think he has hired the wrong person to be DoF. But that for me is it. The players he has bought for the club are all better than most sides around us. That is his biggest failing for me at the moment, or maybe his loyalty to Pardew. Either way, the crux of the matter is Pardew isn’t good enough.

    You want an owner who is passionate about the club? I can think of Dave Whelan, who is obviously passionate and loves the club. Abramovich fell in love with success at Chelsea, and then subsequently Chelsea, Coates at Stoke is a possibility. Other than that owners who are passionate about and love there club are few and far between.

  • 13 rainrix // Jun 25, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    Sage… Yeah balance is needed, but we never see it. Its always big news when we sign a new hot prospect but we never seem to hear about a big new investment in the academy etc. By all means pay a fee for a kid if we think he can be good. Have we invested anything into the academy in recent years? Probably why we lost our AAA status. Its hard to get kids into the 1st team if they’re being let down at reserve level.

    I think if we’re serious about getting more english players into the squad we need to improve our academy and coaching. No value in english players otherwise

  • 14 numba9 // Jun 25, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    Recruit cheap and that’s what you get. Time we did sign some experience or in prime players you have to have a blend to make a team not just buy unproven immature players to sell to other clubs . We want a team to relate to Mr Ashley

  • 15 scout // Jun 25, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    Can’t compare us to Man.u though sage, I’m talking on average teams only score from a corner 1 in every 10 games. Remember when Gary speed done the spinning turn to lose the marker off the corners, why can’t someone try that. RIP Gary absolute gent.

  • 16 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 9:59 AM

    Firstly, I think Harry Redknapp is over rated.

    Secondly, I said that after bringing 5 players in I didn’t expect results to pick up too much as they were all new to the league and a different environment. I didn’t expect them to hit the ground running. What I did expect was a more obvious tactical shift that allowed the players to play the style that suits them best. It is even harder for a player to settle in if the playing style, and role he is asked to play is alien to him.

    Buying 5 players in Jan was never going to be a cure all for last season, but it did give Pardew the tools to start playing this front foot flowing football that he was claiming to play all season.

    Agreed, too many players from one area can cause a clique issue, it needs to be more balanced. I think we will continue to look there, but I agree our shopping regions need to shift focus.

  • 17 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    Out of interest, when the Wonga deal was announced they said that they were making significant contributions on top of the deal to youth development. Has there been any news since about this actually happening?

  • 18 toon22 // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:05 AM

    Our problem is we play kids when we have to,injuries and the like.
    We should be putting kids in when the teams playing well one at a time.
    Its hard to break up a team thats doing well but its the only way you ever get kids coming through.

  • 19 LooneyToon41 // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:05 AM

    @9 Jail. Very good points. I remember Henry,Bergkamp,Pires,Overmars all being crap in their first seasons for Arsenal…. now gunners legends.

    As for owners, i believe there are 3 types:-
    1) Those who do it for personal ego. Probably have trophy wives and gold Rolls Royces too – Chelski,Citey
    2) Those who do it for Profit (of which there are many) – Arsenal,Liverpool,ManU
    3) Those who do it for love of the club – Everton,Wigan, maybe Stoke… but now i’m struggling.

    Which category MA falls into? and Lewis at Spurs? i’m not really 100% sure tbh.

  • 20 rainrix // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    Lilong… Ah yeah forgot about that. I cant remember seeing anything on it. Unless its being done entirely behind the scenes. And by behind the scenes i mean not at all. 😉

  • 21 Graeme // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    Could it not be that we are in fact victims of our own scouting success??

    MA brought in Graham Carr to find skillful, talented players from Europe, better than we have and with a “sell-on value” which he has done admirably.

    Unfortunately, the Manager now has a core group of players that he doesn’t really know what to do with, to get the best team on the pitch, ready and able to win football matches. They don’t seem to fit his vision of a Premier League footy player

    Couple that with our antiquated training, fitness and coaching methods and we have 3 problems in one, each exasperating the situation.

    The idea that we were seeking to bring in a “Modern” Training / Coaching specialist from maybe Belgium, to try and resolve these problems, may just be the key to us actually having a decent season.

    It goes without saying that the first task of this possible new Coaching Specialist will be to open the eyes of Pardew, Carver etc to just what is possible if we actually played to the Strengths of the players we actually have!!

    Just a thought!

  • 22 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    Soderberg, Adjei, Zamblera, Tozer, Hooper, Abeid, Amalfitano, Moyo, Baheng, Kadar, Ranger, Simun Edmondsson all failed. Vuckic, Good, jury still out. Bigi decent success last year.

    They were all signed to the club as development prospects from other clubs… It is safe to say that somewhere along the line the system isn’t working…

  • 23 numba9 // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:14 AM

    @ 19 I think our owner has his own category, arrogant joker that takes enjoyment at upsetting the best fans in England

  • 24 Transfer Sage // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:14 AM


    less of an issue with a clique..more that we have exhausted the quality in that market within our price range in terms of ready made players.


    Well any team, man utd just had the most….teams like stoke, villa, even arsenal have over 6 goals from corners last season.

    That could be the difference between 16th and 10th.

  • 25 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:14 AM

    I imagine if Wonga had been involved in unlocking the ball cupboard even once it would have been done with a huge fanfare just to show how much they do for the club! :-)

  • 26 cestriasteve // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:15 AM

    Did anyone hear the Mark Palios interview on tal;k sport last week on the debate about developing english players and the future of home grown players for their club, the current system isnt working for any EPL team, he gave a stat. which completely blew me away:

    Chelsea have 38 players out on loan to various English and European clubs for development!!!

  • 27 Transfer Sage // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:16 AM


    Might be the stuff in the academy doesnt make the headlines….a new player does but an intake of kids or new equipment might not.

    Then again we didn’t get top status so might well be under investing.

  • 28 sirjasontoon // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    Can’t believe Amilfatano has been sacked by Kinnear…..crying into my croissante as we speak.
    Hopefully we can replace him with another great prospect.

    I wouldn’t pee on Ashley,Pardew and Kinnear if they were on fire cockney wankers.

  • 29 John Tudor // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    Mike Ashley Shocked At This Complete Failure Last Season so what does he do employs a man who contributed to relegation he keeps a manager who failed to motivate players with his tactics and takes the micky out of the cash generators for HIS club the only man to blame is himself

  • 30 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    Why do people on here never talk about Brad Inman being given a chance. I watched many of his games at Crewe last season and the reserves. He scored 21 goals from midfield 8 at Crewe and 13 in he reserves (IN HALF A SEASON) and 16 assists. Goal of the season for Crewe. He is faster than Obertan and obviously knows where the net is.

  • 31 John Tudor // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    employ crap get crap
    there are two trains of thought pro and anti
    no point saying this and that are available not to him they are not he will continue to buy low just to survive i think another relagation and we become the hot potatoe

  • 32 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    Crewe had three weeks holiday and have been back in training for some time now. Our fitness levels were shocking last season we need to address that this season.

  • 33 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    I mentioned it yesterday, saying that he should be at least given the opportunity to stake a claim. He seems to be over the injury problems he suffered. He has scored from midfield in all the sides he has played in. He also played as a slightly wider attacking midfielder for Crewe on occasions, which saw him cut inside to score several times.

  • 34 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:26 AM


    Personally, I’v seen enough. I’d welcome a new owner tomorrow.

    In his reign he has constantly mishandled the club and treated it with disrepect. The finance side of things was to suit his own agenda. He shows no consideration with the staff he employs and his decisions.

    He has even had us relegated.

    We have very little stability other than Carr and Pardew. And even they are miffed about the latest goings on and are questioning their positions.

    The squad is growing and the quality is getting better, but how long before our top players are sold for a profit? And then we are back to square one.

    Deep down, we all know they are up for sale and are constantly in a shop window.

    Im rapidly losing belief in this so called plan of Mike’s. i can’t see how it can succeed going off his reign so far.

    And im also tired of this club being a laughing stock.

    What exactly has it acheived in the time he has been here apart from financial stabilty?

    On Pardew, he took us to the quarters of the Europa with a mediocre and decimated squad through injury. Not a bad achievement considering.

    He is not the major problem for me. His job was difficult last season.

    We will see what he can really do up until Christmas with his top players at his disposal with a consistent team.

  • 35 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    Lilongwe I work with his dad and he actually an attacking MF who plays best through the middle. He is way better that Gosling etc

  • 36 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    Toon Prodigy Only financial stability.

  • 37 mikeashleyisamackem // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    this would be my recruitment for newcastle in this window thoughts please cb micah richards massive money but after the defensive record last season we need to bring in real quality ,winger tom ince or nani again massive money but a great investment strikers bent kone or bonni no way we will get pea what do ya think ?

  • 38 mikeashleyisamackem // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    mike ashley is a amazing boss rewards non playing staff with bonuses at sports direct they all love him how can you say that toon prodigy

  • 39 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Kone would be a good buy along with Ince and Bony.

  • 40 mikeashleyisamackem // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    what you think a nani

  • 41 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    Players at all clubs are up for sale at the right price, even Ronaldo from Man Utd. Why do you think a new owner changes that. Only Carroll has been sold for financial reasons so far anyway.

    I think everyone would be happy with a new owner, but why will that make things better? There is no guarantee. Players will still be available at the right price.

    The squad is growing and the quality is getting better, thanks to Ashley and Carr, who if Ashley is blamed for appointments, he must get credit for this one as well as recruitment.

    The latest appointment has allegedly upset Carr and Pardew. No actual quotes from either, just journalist supposition.

    His job was difficult, he is a Premier League manager, why would it be easy? But the players he played would have achieved better had they been playing a style that suited them, therefore making Pardew the major failing at the club last season. Not to mention the lack of fitness, the training ground injuries, the lack of development from youth players. This falls on the coaching staff to, who I also think are sub standard.

    It brings me back to the fact that Ashley’s biggest failing currently is his loyalty to friends, and his lack of proper recruitment strategies.

    No denying Ashley has done some shocking things in his time here, but to absolve Pardew of fault last year is skirting the issues on the football side.

  • 42 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    Paying big money and wages does not guarantee success Luque, Owen, Boumsong, Klivert, Viduka, Smith.

    Just my opinion.

  • 43 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    @40 great post fella

  • 44 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    I am not sure if we could afford Nani as his wages are huge but as a player class

  • 45 ArtyH // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    If m.a wants pards out, then why not bring in a tacticion for team plays etc, that would make pards position impossible, he would have to resign.

  • 46 cestriasteve // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    mikeashleyisamackem, I’m not so sure we need a CB just yet, lets see how the season unfolds and Curtis Goode will develop, we will recruit a CB from abroad and they will take a while to settle in. A CF is priority, John Guidetti training through the summer hols and back to full fitness !!

  • 47 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 25, 2013 at 11:43 AM


    It’s a different structure to the Chelsea’s or Man Utd’s.We buy and base our whole recruitment policy on sell-on value. Well, this is the latest model anyway. If an offer comes in that they deem as good they will take it. I find this model alone totally unstable and find it almost impossible to believe it will bring us success.

    An owner who has ambition and passion for the club would not have this club in this scenario after 5-6 years and be causing so much kaos.

    In his reign, I can’t see any progression on the footballing side over the past 5-6 years. The squad depth is poor, we take ages in recruitment of players and generally start the season ill equipped. Our first eleven is fine for a club of ours at the moment but besides that it is just being rectified. Since January. We only have one decent striker at the club. This is supposed to be a premier league football team.

    If I ask myself the question, has this worked out so far under his reign? The answer would be no. It’s been totally disastrous.

    I could give Ashley the credit for appointing Carr, but is it warranted? Maybe it was a cheap gamble like everyone else to suit his own personal agenda at the time?

    The season was set-up to fail Lilongwe, the squad was ill equipped. He never had a consistent starting eleven to choose from for most of the season. Our best players missed half of last seasons games also. The team was ill prepared to start with.

    He is not blameless, my point is though, that the club is being ran poorly on the footballing and recruitment front and filtering down.

    This model failed last season. And the only part of the structure that seemingly did ok has just had a grenade launched into it.

    Pardew and Carr have just been undermined. Of course they are miffed. It’s a natural reaction. There is a reason why Pardew did not add to the statement welcoming Joe to the club. It’s because he dosn’t want to be seen welcoming him if this ends up in court.

    He waited until he knew what the score was and clarification on Joes duties. His silence speaks for itself really.

    I’v got to dash mate, gym time, catch up laters.

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