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The “Mike Ashley Out” Motion – In Full

11:38 am, Tuesday, June 25th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 215 Comments

The Mike Ashley Out Campaign took advantage of the meeting last night between fans and Newcastle officials to present a motion to get Ashley out of the club, and for those fans who haven’t seen it – here it is.

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Mike Ashley – Newcastle owner since June, 2007

This is what Graeme Cansdale from the Mike Ashley Out Campaign put forward:

The appointment of Joe Kinnear to the role of Director of Football and his subsequent behavior  whereby he has managed to insult the fans, the city, the local media and even current players, cannot be viewed in any way, shape or form to be a progressive step for the well being of the club.

It has further alienated the very people who are essential to the club’s growth and betterment. The subsequent resignation of Derek Llambias has shown how unplanned and arbitrary the decision-making process is at Newcastle United.

Indeed, recent events are yet another gross error of judgment in a catalog of PR disasters which have occurred since Mike Ashley bought NUFC in 2007.   

Among other things, the club has overseen the public humiliation of two club legends in Kevin Keegan and Alan Shearer, the self-inflicted disaster of relegation in 2009, the unexplained and inexplicable dismissal of Chris Hughton, the renaming of St James’ Park and a continued lack of investment and ambition, which was reflected by the club’s extremely poor form last season.

Mike Ashley has overseen all of these events, continually failed to engage the fans and consistently pursued an agenda that has seen a sad demise of the club, both on and off the field.

This house declares that Mike Ashley is not a fit and proper custodian of a footballing institution that has a proud history and tradition, and enjoys one of the biggest and most fervent followings in European football.

We call for Mike Ashley to consider his position as owner of Newcastle United and to begin a process of exiting before he does any more damage to either the club or his own reputation.

We also urge all fans who truly want the club to progress, individuals, fans’ groups, magazine and blog editors, journalists, local politicians and proud Geordies everywhere to unite in solidarity, not only to see the end of this failed era by means of a coordinated and determined campaign of peaceful protest, but also to promote the great assets that are the club and the city.

So that we can work in partnership with any interested commercial parties in the future, whereby we can once again build a team and a club to be proud of. Mike Ashley has had far too many chances from the good people of this area and has continued to exploit their loyalty and devotion to the club with a crass and callous disregard for their welfare and opinions.

Now is the time for action. We are drawing a line now: enough is enough.

The motion passed easily.

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215 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Tinman - Pardwho? // Jun 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    I have a dream…

  • 2 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM


    It’s a different structure to the Chelsea’s or Man Utd’s.We buy and base our whole recruitment policy on sell-on value. Well, this is the latest model anyway. If an offer comes in that they deem as good they will take it. I find this model alone totally unstable and find it almost impossible to believe it will bring us success.

    An owner who has ambition and passion for the club would not have this club in this scenario after 5-6 years and be causing so much kaos.

    In his reign, I can’t see any progression on the footballing side over the past 5-6 years. The squad depth is poor, we take ages in recruitment of players and generally start the season ill equipped. Our first eleven is fine for a club of ours at the moment but besides that it is just being rectified. Since January. We only have one decent striker at the club. This is supposed to be a premier league football team.

    If I ask myself the question, has this worked out so far under his reign? The answer would be no. It’s been totally disastrous.

    I could give Ashley the credit for appointing Carr, but is it warranted? Maybe it was a cheap gamble like everyone else to suit his own personal agenda at the time?

    The season was set-up to fail Lilongwe, the squad was ill equipped. He never had a consistent starting eleven to choose from for most of the season. Our best players missed half of last seasons games also. The team was ill prepared to start with.

    He is not blameless, my point is though, that the club is being ran poorly on the footballing and recruitment front and filtering down.

    This model failed last season. And the only part of the structure that seemingly did ok has just had a grenade launched into it.

    Pardew and Carr have just been undermined. Of course they are miffed. It’s a natural reaction. There is a reason why Pardew did not add to the statement welcoming Joe to the club. It’s because he dosn’t want to be seen welcoming him if this ends up in court.

    He waited until he knew what the score was and clarification on Joes duties. His silence speaks for itself really.

    I’v got to dash mate, gym time, catch up laters.

  • 3 roshan MAGPIE // Jun 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    I guess ashley dosent give a shit about this

  • 4 JAMSHA // Jun 25, 2013 at 11:45 AM


  • 5 rainrix // Jun 25, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    Nice to see people are trying but tbh nothing will happen. Ashleys proven he’s a borderline sociopath. He doesn’t care about us. In fact he probably draws sustenance from our own pain.

  • 6 Belfast // Jun 25, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    It wasn’t even Ashley who appointed Graham Carr.
    It was actually Chris Hughton who brought him to the club.

    Though I’m sure Ashley/Llambias would try and take the credit for it.

  • 7 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jun 25, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    Don’t know why people waste their time with this shit Ashley clearly isn’t the type to be affected by people’s opinions of him.

  • 8 Belfast // Jun 25, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    I think the only way of getting Ashley to leave, is relegation and a couple of seasons of struggle in the championship to be honest.

    Though I think you get big parachute payments for four years now. So he might just stick around. lol

  • 9 Slank // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    Would they be happy if Ashley closed the club?

    Make all the staff redundant and sell all the players. He can do it, nothing to stop him. I doubt it would make much difference to his wealth. I don’t think the council or/and the football authorities can stop him.

    I know, from a City pal, that NCP were once looking at the ground. Prime real estate.

  • 10 mikeashleyisamackem // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    ok cant keep up with edwado this morning
    heard a rumour you will have to read pevious2 threads to find out what am saying

  • 11 DokToon // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    well theres a way to get him to spend some money on transfers… mike, get us quality players, then dont let the door hit you in the @ss onthe way out…

  • 12 DokToon // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    yes rain, you ARE special… how was the short bus going home ? :)

  • 13 low fell mag // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    It looks like im one of the minority here,and im going to get so down big time ,but here goes.
    I for one support Ashley , I cannot say I like the bloke ,but our club is financially sound .
    I could go on and on ,and the positives certainly out weigh the negatives.
    Just to keep it short, to the majority who want him out be careful what you wish for.
    Portsmouth ,Leeds, Blackburn,Rangers,and im sure there are a lot more out there.
    Lastly ,Fat Freddy and John Hall (,who we think the sun shines out their backsides ) could not wait to grab Big Mikes cash to line their own back pockets and run like F@CK..
    They knew the club was financially F@cked.

  • 14 aidytoon9 // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    He is going nowhere.
    I am just interested in players coming in. To much time gets lost on Ashley, pardew, joe etc.

  • 15 rainrix // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    Slank… Lol it would be funny to see the fallout if he did do that. Im imagining full mobilisation of the geordie public. Sports direct stores being torn down, the destruction of sunderland city centre :)

    Yeah im pretty sure he cant actually do that though. Im sure it would get blocked by authorities.

  • 16 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    How embarrassing. He owns the club period these ridiculous statements and stunts like turning up to the ground with coffin just allow the press to carry on with their piss taking.

    Toon Prodigy you have absolutely no proof Carr is miffed.

    Belfast We can not have it both ways anything which is crap is Ashleys fault anything good is Carr or Houghtons actions.

    Carr was brought in by Ashley as he pays him.

  • 17 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    Rainrix He could fold the club by pulling his money out and allowing the Taxman to close it as Rangers.

  • 18 rainrix // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    Dok… I deeply resent what you are implying, the bus is actually a double decker and not short in the slightest :)

  • 19 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    @Lowfell Mag best post of the day

  • 20 rainrix // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    one Tony Green… Ah forgot about rangers. Im not the most clued in person regarding accounts but couldn’t a rescue package be arranged before liquidation? Of course just the theory of this is terrifying enough :)

  • 21 rainrix // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Then again aren’t we supposedly self sufficient regarding the day to day running of the club?

  • 22 rainrix // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    But now i think we are in debt to ashley so he could liquidate our assets.

  • 23 Slank // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:26 PM


    As one Tony Green said he can effectively close the club down. Look at Hearts FC.

    No authority can force him to maintain the club. It’s his property to do as he wishes.

    I understand the council own the actual ground but they can’t do much. They are not likely to bankroll a football club.

  • 24 aidytoon9 // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    What date do the toon players start preseason?

  • 25 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    Rainrix Rescue package Rangers were a bigger club than us and could not manage it. Can you imagine being relegated into the conference league. People need to think hard before thinking money grows on trees.

  • 26 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    See Blanc manager of PSG – Anchelotti to Real Madrid
    Could be interesting concerning our French players

  • 27 TorqToon // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    Think people should be careful what they wish for on this one.

    Just my two pennies worth…! :-)

  • 28 DokToon // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    on a better note, only 53 days til citeh :)

    rain, any offense taken was purely intended, and not allowed for re-broadcast without my express permission :)

  • 29 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Rainrix we currently have a 130 million interest loan from MA he could transfer that across to a bank loan owed by the club and then walk. No more Toon

  • 30 Slank // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    TorqToon @ 27


    Did the Blackburn supporters ever think that their club would be owned by Indian chicken farmers?

  • 31 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    interest free loan it should read

  • 32 DokToon // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    gmorning sir torq,

    any good news today from you?

  • 33 ToonMauritius // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Dutch Football ?@football_oranje 2h
    Dutch press linking Wilfried Bony to Swansea, English press linking him to Newcastle United

  • 34 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:30 PM


    When you put it like that it is frightening

  • 35 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Come on Torq cheer us all up

  • 36 rainrix // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    one Tony Green… Tbh financial matters bore me to tears, especially when it doesn’t involve newcastle. I didn’t pay much attention to the rangers fiasco so i didn’t realise they couldn’t manage the rescue package. Im honestly glad that this is just all hypothetical. Well at least for the moment :)

  • 37 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Rainrix me too

  • 38 Rooster // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Low Fell, I am also not jumping on the latest hysteria at NUFC I will add I am no AP fan at all and of course MA has a way of doing things that is not much short of shock treatment, but he is keeping it in house with people he trusts, we may not be over the moon with JK, and he needs to reign in his mouth quite a bit but on a whole our club is sound and financially stable.

    You mention all the other clubs in your list, big clubs that havnt a pot to in now, even the boro who bought some real world class players in their time, have to rely on handouts from their owner who over financed his club, just like Hall n Shepherd did then walked away with fortunes. MA has put 25 times more money in to NUFC than both Hall n Shepherd did put together, his money, not money like SJH and FS used, which were just loans against the club, not their own money

    MA paid of the final 43 million quid of the ground redevelopment at SJP why did you think HALL touted to sell it, cos that money needed paying and he was not going to dip in to his own pocket and no one else was going to loan us any more against the club.

    Yes MA has a harsh at times way of doing things, but I am still looking forward to going to SJP this season, I wonder how the Pompey faithful and wolves faithful are feeling about the coming season, and that’s just for starters, add another half a dozen established previous premiership clubs, who are now in the knackers yard!!!!!! we can go out and IMO will pay millions of pounds for players in this window outright not on terms but cash down and that is what clubs want, MA`s decisions are hurtful at times yes agreed, but there is no big black cloud for me hanging over the toon, and again a top international in every position at our club JK is not everyones cup of tea, give the man a break let us see what he brings to the table, he has to back up his ego filled words!! lets see.

  • 39 rainrix // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Dok… Well im deeply offended now! Dont worry. I take comfort in knowing no matter how bad my life gets i don’t live in a country inhabited solely by obese people and serial killers. 😉

  • 40 cyprus // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    Frankly, I’d have sold the club ages ago. Although, to his credit, he realized he wasn’t wanted and tried to sell. If you remember, apart from the couple million the fans raised, the other offers were bogus or funny.

    This is the owner we got, he’s a billionaire, he’s invested big in the club, stop moaning unless you got 300-400 k to spare.

    In fact, it would be good for the club if he felt that we actually liked him, that would be the best strategy to take the club forward.

  • 41 aidytoon9 // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    Good post

  • 42 geordiemark // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    I think the freeman hold the deeds for our ground and the council as well, think that suprised ashley when he bought the club because we didnt own our own ground

    think ashley didnt do a lot of investigating when he bought our club off sheppard and hall, thats his problem not ours yet he takes it out on the club year in year out so in that I say thanks mr ashley but please sell up and take your micky mouse set up with you back to london :)

  • 43 aidytoon9 // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    Any crack about new signings?

  • 44 Rooster // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    rainrix, financial talk is not always great maybe and boring but if you have not got a al hold on finances then im afraid we would be in the same position as the rest of the ex premiership teams are at the moment who are struggling, it is so important, if you are man city or Chelsea or PSG or Monaco you can get away with it, but the massive majority cannot get away with running their club poorly.

    Why do you think the affore mentioned clubs are were they are now, its because their clubs have over financed, Leeds who were massive, Big shots, but massively over financed by ridsdale who did not have the capital to pull them out of the crap, our owner did and has.

  • 45 wolfshead@toon // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    ashley doesnt do things to upset supporters its just his bizarre decision making gives that appearance to be fair somethings he is getting right others are well lets say a work in progress?

  • 46 aidytoon9 // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    All is not bad we are still in the prem and next season can only get better than the last.belhanda, bony, ince/ sinclair then top 6.

  • 47 wolfshead@toon // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:53 PM


    thats true one thing about ashley compared to our previous owners he does understand the concept of balancing the books or at least try to

  • 48 DokToon // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:56 PM


    if i had feelings, they’d be hurt… but i dont, and they arent :)

  • 49 geordiemark // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    I would think different of ashley if he showed his ambition and talked to the fans but he never has, I dont want to be like man u,man city ect ect throwing money all over the place and other clubs abroad that just spend money like confetti thats whats wrecking todays game and silly stupid high wages to players who probably couldnt tie the shoe laces of say pele,zico ect ect ect

    all I want is some players to improve on last seasons rabble :)

  • 50 Slank // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    geordiemark @ 42

    ‘..I think the freeman hold the deeds for our ground and the council as well..’

    Yes that’s what I thought but it doesn’t help them if he decided to close the club down. They cannot stop him.

  • 51 moonraker // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    @ low fell mag

    Spot on! it’s got its faults but could be a lot worse. Some Toon fans think were invincible; well just ask Rangers fans how they feel and that could be us under the previous ownership. Ok they presided over some great times on Tyneside but it all ended in tears and they couldn’t wait to pick up Ashley’s money having robbed the fans and, in FFS case insulted the fans wags.

    Be careful what you wish for; it’s been a lot worse and it may get better and we have a good squad.

    I moan like fcuk but have to be realistic and keep the faith!

    Howay the Lads !!!

  • 52 geordiemark // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:00 PM


    yep he can close us down at any time but it wouldnt be in his best interests to do so though, plus there is a small thing like anyone can start a football club off maybe the name rights are gone but they can call it anything else with the newcastle united as part of it

  • 53 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    Rooster one of the most informative well thought out posts I have seen on here.

  • 54 Rooster // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    aidy, im not making any predictions, but many players have a point to prove and that goes for JK and to an extent AP who was awful last season, there is only maybe half a dozen teams in the prem with more money readily available to spend then us the Russian and arab bought mobs, and the Gooners, honestly you would think we had just been relegated to the 1st division like Wolves with the hysteria that has went on, I really feel we will dip in to the market well this window.

  • 55 // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    Hundreds of thousands of Geordies could have gone to this meeting and didn’t.

    Of those present lets say under 300 the majority backed this “vision” doubtless none have the acumen of our owner and I worry about given this to much credibility.

    JFK is a Panto but let’s not bite the hand that feeds us until we see what investment in players occurs when the transfer window opens?

  • 56 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    So unless I have money to buy the club I shouldn’t voice my opinion that I want MA out of the club? Give the head a wee shake there Cyprus.

  • 57 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    Geordiemark Very true but FC United of Newcastle would be awful.

  • 58 geordiemark // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:05 PM


    your right in what you say, ill see how things pan out and see if we sign any good quality signings

    I do think its very unfair the likes of man united,man city ect ect spend money the way they do I do think it should be stopped not just because we cant spend the way they do but for the goodness of the game because the way its going its going to cause no end of shit in the long term not just for clubs but for international teams as well so it does have to change and players wages as well there has to be a threshold somewhere along the line its just getting way out of hand

  • 59 Slank // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    geordiemark @ 49

    Why should Ashley talk to the fans? Is it a requirement of football club owners?

    Ashley did talk to the fans when he stood with the fans at matches. No other chairman / owner has ever done that. He did talk to fans (and bought them drinks) when he went to the bars.

    Many fans didn’t want / like Llambias talking. Many fans don’t want to hear Pardew. Why would they therefore think any different towards Ashle?

  • 60 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    Ruddy i think the point Cyprus is making is it is a waste of time moaning.

    Additionally the point many people make on here is a fair one that we need to be careful what we wish for.

  • 61 blew // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    Rooster without MAs cash injection the club would be in the brown stuff, his problem with the fans is – he does not shout from the rooftops about his cash bail outs towards the club. The financial mess 2 Geordie supporters put the Toon in – Hall and Shepherd.
    Give MA some credit, at least he has moved DL on and it looks like he is trying to get Broken Brain out from the managers chair. Lets wait and see what MA does before yelling for his blood, look at the players he has brought in!

  • 62 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    @ Blew well said.

  • 63 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    With regards Mike Ashley, I think it’s a little meek to come out with comments like “let’s not bite the hand that feeds us” and it is comments like this that allow for the constant mistreatment of such a loyal fan base.

    Ashley abuses his position as owner of this club time and time again. He insults us fans, he shows blatant disregard for what we want for the club or how his actions may be perceived by the wider fan base and he even makes decisions pertaining to the heritage of the club without any consultation with the fans.

    And even after all this, some fans are saying that all it would take to get them onside with his ownership is a few fancy signings?!?!

    See the wood from the trees people.

  • 64 geordiemark // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:11 PM


    yes he done all that slank but thats when he just bought the club he soon stopped though didnt he wonder why

  • 65 Sazzer // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    Knnear are said to get rid of players that aren’t good enough for top 8 club and whoever he brings he need to work hard to be worse than those going out.

    Also selling Perch is the right thing to do. He was useful when our squad was thin but now we have proper cover so better bring a DM or CB that can dominate the air. Mbiwa is our new better version of Perch.

  • 66 Slank // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    geordiemark @ 52

    ‘ anyone can start a football club off ‘

    Yes they can if they have lots and lots of money to recruit staff and players and build a stadium but they will almost certainly start out in the lowest leagues with no guarantee of ever reaching the heady hights of the premiership.

    Again, people should be wary of what they wish for.

  • 67 eaststandgeordie1982 // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    Standing still for another summer???

  • 68 Markaccus // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    Dont think anyone can really argue with the way ashley has made our club so financially strong. No problems with that at all imo.

    It is the complete and utter lack of any brains when it comes to the footballing decisions he makes ( 2 dofs who are 2 of the most odious characters in football, management and coaching staff decisions, putting someone even tighter than himself in charge of transfer money ie the now departed lambazey) that really p155es people off. Thats how i feel anyway

  • 69 geordiemark // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    there maybe trouble ahead :)

  • 70 DokToon // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    my question is this:

    i understand the need to profit, that is what business is. However, when do we stop buying young players to sell at a profit, and actually have ambition to take some veterans on, who can lead us to what we all want, which, as fans, is most important, a title! it’s one thing to help the bottom line, but it’s about OUR club, not some investment strategy to make a few bucks off of…

    it seems what we do is say, “hey, player X is young, lets buy him for this amount, develop him, and then sell him off” … id rather see talent brought in, and kept… and one day, before i pass on, just one piece of hardware in our cabinet… its awfully dusty in there….

    rant over…

  • 71 jayjo // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    All…. I am sick to death of Mike Ashley out !!!! Exactly why do you want his … Fincially he has repaired the club over years of mis management … Trying to compete with the so called bigger clubs … He has brought infrastructure that cements the club going forward …

    I agree with the opinion of the reasoning on last years struggles where down to not recruiting in the summer .. I dont agree with Kinnear but if he is the buffer between management and owner then so be it …

    The last thing we all want is to be sold by Mike Ashley ….Do we honestly think that an Russian billionaire or a Sheik are going to buy a club in the North when the brigh lights of London is the place to be for them

    LOOK AT BLACKBURN …… a provincial club !!! with a good record of winning things years ago !!!! Same as US the only difference is when they did spend big then WON the LEAGUE .. and now are finished and owned by chicken farmers


  • 72 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    Ruddy Have you read what you posted he ignores what we want that goes for every club. He owns the club and we need to stop playing the heritage card as if we are victims there is an answer for us do not go to the match. Please do not try to tell me that if we got to Wembley and won the FA Cup you would not be happy.
    The new owners of Cardiff City changed their strip colour and badge . Football is a business it is like you expecting to attend board meetings at Sky because you have the football package.

  • 73 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Players out:

    Simpson – Free
    Williamson – £2m
    Perch – £2m
    Gosling – £3m
    Shola – £1m
    Tiote – £15m
    Cabaye – £25m
    Gutierrez – £4m
    Tavernier – £250k
    Amalfitano – £1m

    Total = £53.25m

    Players in:

    Benteke – £18m
    Remy – £8m
    Siem De Jong – £9m
    Douglas – Free
    Alderweireld – £6.4m
    Mcmanaman – £6m
    Belhanda – £8m

    Total = £55.4m

    Net spend = £1.15m

    Surely, this is the way forward???

  • 74 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    Kets nice to see some levity has been brought to the site.

  • 75 Markaccus // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:20 PM


    Kind of what i said on the money side.

    But he simply has to stop making such f|_|ck witted decisions on football. It makes him look like a blithering idiot.

  • 76 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    one Tony Green

    If we won an FA Cup I’d be delighted, because it would be tangible proof that we were going in the right direction as a football club.

    In order to get to Wembley we’d need to beat some pretty good teams, and play some pretty good football, which would show we’re going in the right direction on the football pitch.

    I’ve yet to see any evidence that we are making strides in terms of the playing side of things, even with our 5th place finish, it was more a flash in the pan where a lot of factors worked in our favour.

    Play the heritage card? So renaming a stadium should be part and parcel of what to expect from football owners? What other old stadiums in the top flight have been renamed? None. New stadiums have their names sold for sponsorship, not old ones like ours.

    As for Cardiff, the decision to change their strip and badge has put off thousands of fans from ever supporting their club again, even though they are now in the PL. You cannot put a price on heritage, yet it seems Mike Ashley has done just that and we just accept it.

    I’m moving to Newcastle in a few months and I for one will not be setting foot inside SJP while he is in charge, and I think many others will be of the same opinion.

  • 77 Markaccus // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    10 out, 7 in??? So even smaller squad than last year, Kets???

  • 78 Rooster // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    Blew, I think you must have misread my comments, I fully appreciate the money MA has put in!!!!

  • 79 Slank // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:24 PM


    ‘ Surely, this is the way forward ‘

    Have you taken into account agent fees, relocation expenses, travel expenses, temporary accommodation, loss of overnight interest, cash flow projections and the players amortisation on the balance sheet?

  • 80 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    One Tony green

    Also, it doesn’t go for every club. Everton made the decision to tinker with their badge (and I mean it was merely tinkering) and the Everton fans protested to have the original badge re-instated.

    Within a few days the club issued a statement that they were to re-instate the old badge along with a heartfelt apology from the club.

    There is a club whose fans are listened to.

  • 81 Black and White with an army lol // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:27 PM


    it may seem easy for the players out & in, but out of them 7 players only a possible 3-4 can come in simply because there agents fees, contract clauses etc,etc would also cost a few million to take into account

  • 82 Black and White with an army lol // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    Slank @79

    beat me to it mate 😉

  • 83 Santon03 // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    mikeashleyisamackem, I really like your opinion. I think you are very open minded person.

  • 84 Markaccus // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    I dont know why everyone is so worried. If Rooney goes to Barca then it clears the way for us to sign Messi

  • 85 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    Ruddy Portsmouth won the FA cup recently and Wigan last season, Birmingham City won the League Cup. So winning a trophy is hardly an indication of making a step in the right direction football wise as not one of them is in the EPL now.

    Cardiff City have sold all their season tickets for this season.

    Ruddy our badge has been changed 4 times in the last 40 years.

    Do you have or have you has a season ticket. If you have and you are voting with your feet then good for you fella.

    Many of the most vociferous people on here do not even go to the match.

  • 86 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    I also expect Obertan to leave for around £2-3m. With selling these players we will be able to afford the agent fees etc. Would rather have 7/8 players around the first team than 10 reserve type players.

    With that squad we’d have 2 players competing in each position and will have a more balanced squad.

    First 11:


    Debuchy Alderweireld Mbiwa Santon

    Ben Arfa Sissoko Behanda

    Siem De Jong

    Benteke Remy

    Second 11:


    Raylor Douglas Coloccini Haidara

    Mcmanaman Anita Bearsejour


    Cisse Gouffran

    Players challenging to get in the squad:

    Adam Campbell
    Remi Streete
    Curtis Good
    Shane Ferguson

    I’ve added Bearsejour to the squad as he will be available for £2m, so that’d be a great coup.

  • 87 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    Bearsejour would be a good replacement for Obertan as he has got a better delivery and will set up lots of chances.

  • 88 jayjo // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    Markaccus ……. He does make mistakes … But if Kinnear had said nothing then it was announced officially would there be such an issue ….. Like many othere people have said how many managers in a day to day job speak to the owner of the company ….Not bloody many

    Im more interested in Kinnear / Pardew ensureing the main squad doesnt leave ( unless for ridiculas fees ) and bring in CH , Creative midfielder and Striker / 2

    Surely thats more important than we concentrate on this rather than a owner

  • 89 Rooster // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    Ruddy even MA Said he still called the ground SJP, when he renamed it, he was searching for different avenues, and he is not afraid to go down those avenues, it bugs us of course but he will do what he feels right for the his business and our club even if it is hurtful, at times they are hurtful I know that, just think of how baseball and American football teams feel, they have had their names changed completely, it must hurt imensely, its the way of the world, we are a business he has stated that is how we are being run, I understand that, it comes with hurtful decisions along the way, im dealing with it, we are not sunk buy any stretch of the imagination, get yourself to the match when you move up here, nowt like it, join 50,000 others, its magic.

  • 90 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    We don’t need Tiote anymore. 2 defensive midfielders are enough. Don’t forget, Debuchy can also play in that position and Coloccini if we’re desperate. We need at least 2 new strikers.

  • 91 tequilamag // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Newcastles origibnal colours when they formed from the merger of Newcastle West end and Newcastle East end were red tops and white shorts. The club badge has changed a few times over the years the current one has only been in use since 1988. It`s important to be proud of your heritage but not become a slave to it.

  • 92 Slank // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    Ketsbaia9 @ 86

    ‘..selling these players we will be able to afford the agent fees etc…’

    I’m pleased you have taken all the financial and accounting aspects of the outgoing and incoming transfers into account as I thought you were being a bit too simplistic.

    Will you now repost your original post with all the updated figures.

  • 93 Markaccus // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:43 PM


    Again i agree on what our focus should be. Unfortunately it is hard not to express concern about what might happen to our football structure when a man said, after the wise debacle, that he had learned from the mistake, goes ahead and makes exactly the same error. Who would follow the toon, eh? 😀

  • 94 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    We’d be stupid to get rid of Abeid. He got young player of the year award in the spl. We need to move forwards and not backwards. St Johnstone qualified for europe.

  • 95 Sazzer // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    Our squad wasn’t small, it only lack quality throughout. 10 out 7 in with that quality would do us tons of good. Especially if they are utility players.

  • 96 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    Abeid is better than Bigirminana in my opinion.

  • 97 JAMSHA // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:52 PM


    But we have a stupid manager who doesnt give youngsters chance

  • 98 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    one Tony Green

    I am from Ireland, born and bred, as such I don’t have the luxury of being able to afford to go to SJP on a weekly basis, or even on a regular basis. I go when I can afford to go.

    I’ve lived in Newcastle for a year, and in that year I went to every single home game.

    I’ve financially contributed to the club through the purchasing of club merchandise.

    A person’s support of the club should not be quantified in pounds or pennies, as everyone has an opinion and none is more valid than the other, especially if the seemingly deciding factor is geographical location.

    On the topic of heritage. Badges was an example of how even the smallest details can cause uproar, and in Everton’s case they forced the club’s hand to change it back.

    However, the stadium name is not a small detail, it’s an inherent one that is a part of the life blood of the club, and MA just p!ssed all over it, without so much as a single consultation session with the fans and that for me is unforgivable.


    As much as I’d love to be a part of the magic next season it would be disingenuous of me to complain so strongly about MA and yet line his pockets with my money. I’m afraid that I’m never stepping foot in SJP while he is in charge unless strides are seriously made to repair the damage caused and get this great club back where it belongs – in the upper echelons of the PL.

  • 99 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    Siem De Jong can play behind the striker or up front. Remy can also play on the wing. Alderweireld can take free kicks and will get goals. Belhanda is versatile. That’s what we need. 24 players should be competing for the first team and then the younger players should be looking at breaking through.

  • 100 JAMSHA // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:54 PM


    sammy is better dan abide

  • 101 Sazzer // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    Agent: Wanyama will not join Saints

  • 102 aidytoon9 // Jun 25, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    Would like to see Campbell get a few games next season or send him out on loan for the season. Him and bigi look decent players in the making.

  • 103 Slank // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    Ketsbaia9 @ 94

    ‘…We’d be stupid to get rid of Abeid. He got young player of the year award in the spl..’

    Pardew got manager of the year the season before last.

  • 104 MacToon // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Slank // Jun 25, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    Would they be happy if Ashley closed the club?

    Make all the staff redundant and sell all the players. He can do it, nothing to stop him. I doubt it would make much difference to his wealth. I don’t think the council or/and the football authorities can stop him.

    I know, from a City pal, that NCP were once looking at the ground. Prime real estate.


    The use of the land, St James’ Park cannot be changed and is not owned by Ashley therefore NCP were wasting their time!

    Apparently the whole meeting last night was recorded and will be available to listen to tonight.

    So many vocal people here ready to shoot down opinions but I didn’t hear you stand up and make your point last night when there was an opportunity to be heard. Too happy to hide behing a keyboard?
    (Of course I’m not counting people who live outside of the region or may have had prior commitments.)

  • 105 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Wanyama got the SPL young player of the year award.

    Mehdi Abeid won one supporters groups Young player of the year award, the “WE Are Perth Forum”, however the “Barossa St Saints” gave it to Liam Caddis.

    Sorry for that, as I hate to ruin that fantasy world of yours

  • 106 Sazzer // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:02 PM


    But we have a stupid manager who doesnt give youngsters chance.

    Many things can be said about Pardew but he does give youngsters as chance.

  • 107 Rooster // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    Ruddy, its your decision, and a lot of others I suppose have joined you in that stance, a lot of my mates are down that road, there will still be 50k there on opening home game of the season, Ruddy its becoming the way of the world in big business. commerciality sees no bounds, and as I mentioned earlier, the yanks have had consortiums change names of clubs to to suit their needs, MA has made hard, and sometimes harsh decisions, but hes a big player in the business world, and he got there making these sorts of decisions, he isn’t afraid to do it, and maybe somewhere along the line another bomb will get dropped, im afraid the fella does not do feelings, where his money and businesses are concerned.

  • 108 fatman // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    So many financial experts on today, sadly they don’t have a clue how liquidation goes, for Ashley to put the club in administration he calls in a receiver, and they dispose of the assets. one thing all those that almost went under had in common, the size of debt outweighed the assets, Leeds had a ground that held under 40,000, dilapidated, and had debts of over £100m. when Ashley purchased the club we had debts of about £87m of which £50m was for the extension of the stadium taking it close to 53,000 seats. when Ashley purchased the club he had full knowledge of our debts, to sell a company with hidden debt is fraud, I can’t remember the halls or Shephards gong on trial. they did call in the city of London police over the warehouse they purchased and rented back to the club at a massive profit but that failed to produce any charges. the failure to conduct due diligence would only mean Ashley failed to realise that the debt was secured against hall land, to get better terms on the loans (i.e. secured), meaning they had to be repaid when the halls sold up. Ashley’s mistakes have led directly to the loos of £43m, although only on paper because 8 years of saturation promotion of his company must have been worth £150m+ so in 8 more years he will be in place to make massive profits. those that say Ashley’s not stupid are correct because the more trouble the club has the more exposure his company get good or bad makes no difference as they sell cut priced sports cloths, who’s purchases don’t care about Newcastle football Club, in fact it would have the opposite effect make him look the tight git that get his good made by kids and sells them as cheap as he can.
    when a company is liquidated the assets are sold and creditors are paid, taxman is first in line, then the banks, lastly it would be Ashley and the rest of the creditors. now comes the problems Ashley has no say over what happens to the assets of the company, a football stadium is the biggest asset, but now we hit a problem the stadium is built on the town moor controlled by the council & the freemen of the city, the terms of the lease prohibits its use for anything else but a football stadium, problem being that its scrap value is lower than the demolition cost. that alone would mean no one would buy the lease unless they wanted to run a football team. that’s the only reason why Ashley could never put the club in administration. anyone could purchase the assets take a 10 point penalty and probably scrape by with a debt free club. the reason Ashley could not sell the club is he wants £400m for it, when it’s worth at best £250m. your only an international brand if your in the champions league, the snag is it would take up to £150m to get us there or at least challenging for it. easy to see why a business man will not take the risk.

  • 109 Ketsbaia9 // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    It still proves that he’s a decent player and should be given a chance at our club. Hopefully Kinnear will notice his talents.

  • 110 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    Ruddy I hear what you are saying however I do not need people who do not even go to the match to speak on my behalf. I travel to all the away matches as well as home so my idea of supporting my team differs. People here talk about the 52,000 crowds which is another urban myth our average crowd was just over 50,000 last season less if you bring in the european games.
    I totally respect the fact you wont be going to the match when you move here at least you are a man of your word fella.

  • 111 Sazzer // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    Kets pick one
    Belhanda or Abeid?

  • 112 tequilamag // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    Ruddy I do agree up to a point. The renaming exercise of SJP served no purpose. MA has to be given credit for sorting out the finances but I do wonder if he can achieve much more to increase revenue, We are still way behind Spurs and Liverpool . The recent deal with Wonga is a case in point. Leaving aside the moral issues, financially it was the most lucrative offer he could get and compared to other clubs is it is very small beer. Newcastle I think are seen as something of a toxic brand for sponsors. Who wants there name associated with a club who are often in the press for the wrong reasons.
    I would not shed any tears if Ashley were to go but whoever takes over is unlikely to be much better and could easily be a hell of a lot worse. But it was always the same. Westwood was an autocrat who never spent anything on the club, The Halls and Sheperd spent a boat load and took plenty out for themselves and could have bankrupted the club given a few more years.

  • 113 aidytoon9 // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    Deb Mapou. Sakho. Santon

    Benarfa Sissoko. Cabaye. Belhanda

    Cisse. Bony/ pea

    Subs: colo, ince, Redmond,tiote, perch, keeper,welbeck?

  • 114 Sazzer // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    Michael ?@mquinnNUFC
    @nufcfans @RomainAmalfi @Mercato365 apparently they’re willing to pay £2mil for him, even Carrs flops turn a profit lol

  • 115 Vancmagpie // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    All I hear is Ashley saved us.No he didn’t we still have the same debt if not worse due to the relegation season.All he has done is manage the debt better with an interest free loan thus protecting his investment as he did with the January transfers.
    If he actually paid for the SD advertising how much of that debt would have been written off by now.

  • 116 Rooster // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    aidy, I rate Campbell very highly, we may seem him in pre season, it was interesting that AP said he had no intention of sending him out on loan, the lad has the skill and temperament and a terrific football brain now to cope, my opinion of course but watched him for a long time, don’t be fooled by his size, hes a little pocket rocket, wait ill he gets on some of them through balls from Ben Arfa. a proper scud missile.

  • 117 Slank // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    Mac @ 104

    ‘… but I didn’t hear you stand up and make your point last night when there was an opportunity to be heard. Too happy to hide behing a keyboard?..’
    (Of course I’m not counting people who live outside of the region or may have had prior commitments.)

    It’s currently 35C outside and a bright blue sky without a cloud or drop of rain insight. Could this be Byker or anywhere within 1000 miles of SJP?

  • 118 MacToon // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    fatman, good post but Ashley’s been here 6 years not 8 😉
    Still, a valid post though and could possibly make some on here less ignorant, can only live in hope.

  • 119 Markaccus // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Sazzer. Yes we had a lack of quality but we were also on second reserves in europe at times. Ok we dont have that this season but i dont think we can afford a 3 player drop. If we sell a senior player he must be replaced.

  • 120 Wandering Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    After a bit of homework lo and behold I found out that Lee Marshall used to be with the Pondlife for a similar role. See below.

    PR and Supporter Liaison Manager at Newcastle United
    Newcastle upon Tyne, United Kingdom | Sports
    Current: PR and Supporter Liaison Manager at Newcastle United Football Club Past: Team Media Manager at Philadelphia Union, Senior Media and Communications Officer at Sunderland AFC, Public Relations Executive at Robson Brown……………whatever next?

  • 121 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    @ Mactoon some people have jobs and commitments other than football. As for your opportunity to be heard that is a monthly meeting so plenty of chances for that. The Newcastle United Supporters trust did go either

  • 122 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    NUST did not attend either.

  • 123 aidytoon9 // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    It would be great to see him come through like as he is local and seems a nice kid. Have you watched him much in the reserves?

  • 124 MacToon // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    Slank, I don’t understand your post as I did say
    (Of course I’m not counting people who live outside of the region or may have had prior commitments.)

    So what part did you not read/understand?

  • 125 Slank // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    fatman @ 108

    Good points.

  • 126 MacToon // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    lol, ok same for you OTG!!!

    FGS, what are we up against here?

  • 127 Rotonda heights // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    abeid and amaltifano may be flops under pardew but who knows what a proper manager could have turned them in to.
    Did either ever really get a chance? Carr doesn’t get many wrong

  • 128 Rooster // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    Vanc, all I hear is Ashley is a c.unt, two sides to it all, he is not the devil incarnate, you maybe not like him, would you say as a club in general, playing, coaching, financially, would you say we area shambles? I think we are far from it.

  • 129 one Tony Green // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    Cheers Mactoon you are a gent fella

  • 130 Slank // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:16 PM


    Just letting you know that I (like so many on his site) can’t always be at the ground but that doesn’t stop me and others voicing our opinions.

  • 131 Rotonda heights // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Carr had recommended Wanyamma when he was 900K and Fer when he was 4M. Now combined over 20M!

  • 132 Rooster // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    aidy, watched that lad all his career, watched him in the training sessions as well, more than a match for anyone at the toon, hes terrific, he needs the service, colo n saylor are left for dead, not the quickest those two I know but, the quickest player at the club, electric from a standing start, he has the composure and brain to make it IMO, shola has had a million chances hasn’t he, lets give this kid a real chance, I think he could do it at any level, fantastic temprement, but when he gets away from that last defender, game over.

  • 133 Sazzer // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    True that you have to handle 3 players down in certain situations like we did defensively at end of the season with all FB out. Still upgrading 10 fringe for 7 first team capable players would give us enough cover. If we lose 1 st player we need to replace that with an equal.

  • 134 Vancmagpie // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    I would say we are actually.We have an owner who doesn’t give a shit.Joe Kinnear the biggest joke in football.A manager who likes the sound of his own voice but puts none of it into practice.Sub standard coaches,medical staff the list goes on.We are still in massive debt just not to the banks.How much more do you need to know.

  • 135 aidytoon9 // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    He sounds like the Owen type when he first broke through.
    Lets hope he does well.

  • 136 JackButler // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    To be fair to Ashley he has done some things at the club that we should be proud and happy with.

    We no longer have the so called ‘Big’ name players coming here and picking up obscene amounts of money with little to no effort or concern in return. We now have a scouting system that has provided some top class players for very little money in both out lay on transfer fee’s and wages and there is a far more concentrated effort on our youth set up.

    All these things are massive positive’s for us…………..But.

    All of the good work that he has done has constantly been wrecked by some of the most questionable and outright baffling decisions in the clubs history.

    He bring’s back Kevin Keegan in the hope of recapturing the dream set up, then undermine’s him with the appointment of Dennis Wise….two stupid decisions as KK was never gonna recapture his former glory with us in my opinion and Wise was/is and odious little man with and ego that out weigh’s his cv or anything he’s ever done.
    Llambias as Chairman? Putting a man with zero footballing background or understanding in the most powerful and influential position at the club had disaster written all over it from day one. Stick to Black Jack and Roulette Derek.

    The appointment of Kinnear (both times), the appointment of Pardew and the now infamous EIGHT YEAR CONTRACT. The appointment of Shearer, the unprofessional treatment of Houghton all point to a man who appoints on a whim with little to no reasoning other than it would seem that they work for little money and are simply glad to have a job in the top flight again.

    The communication from the club is fascicle, comparable to that of a pouting, petulant teenager who thinks that they know best and has stamped their feet and stormed off to their room.

    But getting rid of this man isn’t as simple as people think, as finding someone with a spare few hundred million pounds to spend are hard to come by, so the Ashley circus will continue for the foreseeable future with all it’s twisted and laughable glory.

  • 137 Rooster // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Vanc, we have no outside debt, the only club in the premiership, who have none, an owner who does give a shit and that is to protect his business, which he does in his own way weather we like it or not, squad full of international and a few world class players, we can buy players with cash up front.

    There is two ways of looking at it, yours is one way mine is the other, we may agree on AP, im no fan. my glass is more than half full yours it seems is virtually empty, its your opinion by all means say what you will, just as I will also.

  • 138 Thump // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    @JackButler: There’s a formula to how Mike Ashley works (and history seems to be proving this). Basically, he does something good (P) and then it’s immediately followed (T) up by a negative thing (N), and it always in the off season (O).

    O + (P * T) = N

    …or something.

  • 139 Rotonda heights // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    first rate fans, first rate stadium, first rate squad,. second rate management

  • 140 JackButler // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    @Thump – I don’t know if I’m looking t this all wrong, but to me if we were to employ a chairman and manager who new what they were doing then things would be so much better……is the fix for this mess so straight forward or am i missing something?

  • 141 tequilamag // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Not sure how you can get a first rate squad with second rate management. They must to be doing something right to be able to assemble that squad.

  • 142 magpiebop // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    Did everyone forget that nobody wants to buy the club?

  • 143 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    First two signings done. Newton and Dummett sign extensions.

  • 144 Markaccus // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:58 PM


    Thats our business concluded for summer then!

  • 145 Rooster // Jun 25, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    Apparently an American consortium are looking at buying us, they want to change the name to the Texas Toon Oilers, OH DEAR THERE WORSE THAN THAT MA!!

    Next chapter, deep breath, and begin!?!?!

  • 146 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    Newton and Dummet have signed one yr deals.

    I thiught they would of been away after they did ok over in Scotland.

  • 147 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:01 PM



  • 148 Markaccus // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:03 PM


    No if they do well in scotland they have to be first team here next year. Ketsy said so.

  • 149 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Is there any details of this meeting last night yet?

    They should of recorded it.

    The people heckling kinnears advisor would of been priceless.

  • 150 Rooster // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    But Rotonda, that second rate management brought that first rate squad in to be fair.

  • 151 Vancmagpie // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    Of course we have no outside debt as that would mean paying interest on the loan.But it is still a debt of over a 100 million and as you said we are now run as a business so he will protect that.As for giving a shit about the club we all love and bleed black n white that he doesn`t and would sell tomorrow if he could get the money he wanted.
    We have a squad of good players none world class but some potential to be.We have a Premier league scout but a championship manager so they will never reach that potential under this regime.
    Like you say we have different opinions so to say my glass is half empty is just your opinion not a fact

  • 152 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    Heres a little bit of goings on:

  • 153 MysteriousStranger // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    Who is going to take over the club?

    Surely if anyone else wanted the club they would have bought it by now.

  • 154 JackButler // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    I love this

    “Since Joe was appointed, he has never had a day off”

  • 155 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:16 PM


    Hahaha, don’t we know it!

  • 156 MysteriousStranger // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    Joe Kinnear – He doesn’t seem to have done much, other than give awful interviews and have a 2 day business lunch since he was appointed – perhaps he should have a lot more days off. It would be better than NUFC.

  • 157 JackButler // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:18 PM


    I know mate 😀

    It should have read “Since Joe was appointed, he has never had a day off as he’s been way too busy making a complete fool of himself and embarrassing the fans”

  • 158 MysteriousStranger // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:19 PM

    @156 for NUFC, not than NUFC – perhaps I need a day off!

  • 159 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:24 PM


    Aye! The next meeting will be comedy gold if Kinnear is going.

    I’ll go to that one like, just for the laugh haha.

  • 160 Rooster // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    Vanc, you opinion is certainly not glass half full, far from it, reading between the lines on your previous posts, surely you can see that, not having a pop at you, but you are less than enthusiastic shall we say, you sound like your about to swig your last two or three mouthfuls!! time gentlemen please.

  • 161 MysteriousStranger // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    To be fair if Joe Kinnear does go to one of those meetings he has got somw stones, he’d best take some security. He might want to give Vinny a ring and check the horse puncher isn’t going.

  • 162 Vancmagpie // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    So why is that because i`m not content to put up with the shite like you.
    Where are better than we were when Ashley took over.We have the same style of manager.We have a squad full of international players just like when he took over.We’ve been relegated and nearly again last season.We still have over a 100 million debt greater than when he took over.
    So come on tell me how Ashley is so great.I have supported the toon from the early 70`s so have seen plenty of shite both on and off the pitch so do tell me

  • 163 solano // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    @161….JFK couldn’t make it last night simply because he was starring on TV in the ‘The Man with the 10 stone Testicles’ 😉

  • 164 Dude // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    This whole debate is sad to the nth degree. Am I a huge fan of MA ? No. But who buys him out ? The list of well-meaning people with Geordie origins / sympathies that have the necessary 400M is pretty damn short. Or do we really want a nouveau riche foreigner owner with an ego the size of the solar system making Hollywood signings of players who have nothing but dollars in their eyes ? I don’t. MA has many faults, but in my view he’s probably our best option and this kind of sorry stunt is wholly counter-productive. The people involved should get a life.

  • 165 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    Do you not understand the phrase “glass half full/empty”? It is to do with whether you are an optimist or a pessimist, you buy the sounds of things are anything but optimistic, so you are therefore glass half empty. That is all rooster is saying.

  • 166 Vancmagpie // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    @Lilongwe Geordie
    Of course i do so by not blindly following whatever Ashley does makes me a glass half empty.
    The man has turned NUFC into a joke of a club but by buying the odd good player now and again makes everything rosie

  • 167 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    Yeah it does as you are pessimistic about th clubs fortunes under Ashley. There is nowt wrong with that, many would agree with you.Rooster prefers to be hopeful, so in this instance he is glass half full, and yours is half empty.

  • 168 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    There is nothing wrong with either opinion, it is just you are at opposite ends of the spectrum. :-)

  • 169 foggonridiculous // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    @ Solano

    LOL – slowly but surely all the Viz cartoon strips are coming to life….Viz’s chap with the unfeasibly large testicles used a wheelbarrow did he not…?

  • 170 Vancmagpie // Jun 25, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    @Lilongwe Geordie
    I am not pessimistic under Ashley i can see him for what he is.My view is your glass is empty for putting up with all the tripe and have given up and are happy to plod along.
    I look forward to the day Ashley is gone and the club i love gets it identity back and can move forward.

  • 171 Mister Tuff // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    Was it not reported on here a few days ago that JK was going to take a few days off – after his radio appearances – positive it was on here -yet we hear from his representative that he’s been working everyday since his appointment. Porky pies somewhere here – what is the point in telling tall stories about such an inconsequential matter – a deceitful culture really is not necessary.
    It will be very interesting to see who is going to be shown the door -most discerning fans know who the crap players are (this does not apply to those who think Obertan is a good player) and it will be a bit of a guide to see if the list matches up to what the fans think.
    A reported massive exodus has surely got to be followed by a massive influx.
    I have this feeling -probably based on getting suckered every season -that some stars will be arriving at SJP.

  • 172 MysteriousStranger // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    I can see why people want Ashley out but I don’t see any viable options to replace him and that is a serious flaw. If your going to try and change some one then at least provide a realistic outcome to the change, also Ashley is no fool and whilst he knows people want him out he’ll only sell at the right price. Any one who has been watching our transfers will know Ashley has done well in all of his buys except when he bought Newcastle.

  • 173 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    When i read that statement at the top of this article I can’t fault it.

    His reign on the football side has been a shambles like.

    Getting him out is another beast all together.

    Well, Tiote thinks we will do well next season anyway.

  • 174 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    You see him for what he is? So you see the good points to his time in charge then?

  • 175 remy D // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    Thanks for the input softy

  • 176 Vancmagpie // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    @Lilongwe Geordie
    Good points being what maybe you can tell me as Rooster failed to find any other than we don`t owe the bank just the bank of Ashley

  • 177 Yohan Kebab // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    surely 2mil plus ferguson plus campbell on loan could do it for redmond?

  • 178 Mister Tuff // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    remy D ial – no problem.

  • 179 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    We have no external debt, we are able to purchase players cash down, rather than protracted agreements putting us in a strong buying position, we have one of the best scouts in the business, we have assembled the best squad technically that we have had since the mid 90’s.

    Ithink Ashley has his bad points, and would happily accept a new owner if there was one to be found, but if you can’t see the good things Ashley has been involved with at the club then you can’t see him for what he is. To do that you need a balanced view.

    As to you not thinking that you are pessimistic about the future, unless you can see the future, then you are being.

  • 180 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Clark has made no secret of his desire to get Fergie back next season. What sort of football does Clark play? Haven’t seen any of his Birmingham side, and I can’t remember much about his Huddersfield side either. I’d want Campbell to go to a club that will play the ball around and keep it on the deck. Not sure that a team containing the giant Zigic do that. Crewe, Middlesbrough, Reading maybe those sorts of teams would help his development.

  • 181 cyprus // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    All I was saying is that this is the owner we got and I don’t see anyone else clamoring for the club.

    When he did try to sell there were no real takers. So, we’ve seen this episode before. All it caused was bad feelings all round.

    And there’s something there that I don’t quite identify in your usual billionaire: wearing the shirt, buying the lads a beer, trying to be a mere mortal…

    He was looking for love wasn’t he? :) Somewhere to belong? Who’s the ITK psychologist out there in this blog?

  • 182 mohtoolz // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    The fans are more powerful than what we think. Hitting him where it hurts… His pocket, that is what we have to do.

  • 183 John Tudor // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    for me ashley has to come out and not lie,say he was wrong in what the fans see as wrong appointments, grovel to us for forgiveness and that he will be more forthright in future

  • 184 Vancmagpie // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    @Lilongwe Geordie
    Is that it thats all the good points.We still have debt though of over a 100 million just don`t pay interest.
    We can afford up front fees as we shop mainly bargin besement,players in last year of contract etc.
    Was not Carr brought in by Hoots not Ashley.
    If like in your view i would actually rather my glass be empty than be sipping slowly of a glass filled with Ashley urine saying its not very nice but I`ll get used to it.

  • 185 cyprus // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    Anyway, Mike, dude,
    You got like 20 of those ugly yellow NUFC shirts in your new Nicosia store (remember it? Cyprus?) at 60 euros a piece. There aren’t 20 NUFC fans in this city, in fact all NUFC stuff you sold here was to me! So, drop the price (to 10 euro please) on one of them, so I can go pick it up. Thanks man.

  • 186 John Tudor // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    it aint gonna happen therefore i will remain anti ashley, anti kinnear ,and anti pardew

  • 187 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    Yeah, I agree, when he came here he really was looking to be loved by the club. He splashed cash, brought in fans favourite Keegan to increase popularity, bought drinks, socialised. Then he made his second mistake, Dennis Wise, (the first was bringing Keegan back, but fans know best right 😉 ) and from Wise on the relationship deteriorated until there was none left at all.

    Barry Moat, the only serious bidder who matched the criteria on here of “loving the club” couldn’t manage to pull together 100 million, so where is the 400 million coming from.

    Ashley is what he is. A business man who at the heart of it wants to make money, and he will do it the way he thinks best. If he hurts a few people on the way, what is that to him. We might not like it, and he will make unpopular decisions but at the end of the day he will make most money by having a successful club.

    If a knight in shining armour turned up armed with 400million plus the spanish under 21 team then great, but just as likely is someone like the Venkys coming in.

  • 188 mohtoolz // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    @ MysteriousStranger

    “I can see why people want Ashley out but I don’t see any viable options to replace him and that is a serious flaw.”

    I do not get your point. You do not have a list of all the business men in the world. Of course there are groups that would be interested in buying Newcastle. We are trying to make him sell, and yes at a price cut. Because if he doesn’t he will lose much more.

    I wasted a big chunk of my money every month just to watching the poor excuse of football we are playing. They are not even trying. Why should the fans suffer. No! Enough is enough.

    He is not the first or the last business man to fail.

  • 189 toon kk // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    MA won’t give jack sh.t what us fans think. If we were relegated it wouldn’t mean anything to him apart from income. Perhaps it would be better for him then he could run the club cheaper and still advertise and sell his sports gear.

  • 190 cyprus // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Just looking into his life… Got back with a wife who took him for 50 mil?–hes-seen-ex-wife-took-50m-divorce.html

    If we embrace him, he’ll get us Messi I tell you!

    Anyway, let’s leave the guy alone, next subject Ed.

  • 191 Rooster // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Mo, with respect, how can we possibly hurt MA in the POCKET, it aint going to happen to be honest, he of course wants the ground full that’s a granted but we wont ever dip under 40 thousand in the premiership, Christ, there was 43k there when KK left (not tempting fate of course ha ha) I just don’t see how we can hurt him in the pocket, we are a certainty for publicity at the Toon, and that is always kerching! for MA good or bad publicity, hes win win at the Toon. we have been in every broadsheet every red top over the last couple of weeks, MA, Sports Direct, NUFC, JK GOT HIS NAME UP IN LIGHTS AGAIN, im sure if MA had not wanted to gown the interview route he would have put a block on it, he did not and has got copias amounts of free advertising through it, JK STILL BITES TO MUCH, BUT HE ALWAYS HAS HASNT HE, LEOPARD N SPOTS N ALL THAT.

  • 192 John Tudor // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    dont buy his gash gear

  • 193 John Tudor // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    im sure all the kids in his sweat shops allover the world wont buy his tat

  • 194 LooneyToon41 // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    At a guess, i’d suggest Mr Cansdale is an active Union parrot. His intentions ‘may’ be honourable, but i would suggest he’d be more comfortable living in MiddleEarth, than on Earth.
    Would you like me to wave a ‘Sack the Board’ flag too?

    MA isn’t going anywhere unless ‘A.N.Other’ comes to the party with £100-150m. It’s in MA’s interest to increase the value of the club, without putting anymore cash in himself. This really isn’t rocket science.

  • 195 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    So when someone you deem good comes in it is thanks to someone you like, when someone you don’t like comes in then it is Ashley’s fault.

    We mainly shop at the bargain basement? Yeah, but we have signed full internationals. Would you have been happier if instead of the 3.5 for Cabaye we had said, “we know he has a release clause, but people like Vancmagpie won’t be happy if we only spend that, here is 15million instead”?

    By not paying interest that allows us to spend the money on other areas. Or would you have preferred the interest payments?

    As for your last comment, what has Ashley’s urine got to do with anything. Or is it that time of the discussion when things like that get thrown around?

  • 196 Rooster // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    John Tudor, there are near to 350 Sports Direct shops, and two in the toon area, don’t buy as many Lonsdale trackies as you like, not a even a breath of difference, maybe your post was tongue in cheek??

  • 197 John Tudor // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    different erea matey. i will not buy if more don’t it will have an effect also there can be pickets out side his outlets personally i don’t care what others do i for one wont spend another penny that he can get his grubby mitts on

  • 198 John Tudor // Jun 25, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    same goes for sky more leave that everyday recession you know

  • 199 veto // Jun 25, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    clueless, who’s going to pay 250million for us .

  • 200 Rotonda heights // Jun 25, 2013 at 5:01 PM


    i thought that was Carr. I understood Pardew had little impact otherwise there would have been more obertans etc

  • 201 John Tudor // Jun 25, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    ashley might thick bozo

  • 202 John Tudor // Jun 25, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    soz missed out he’s a thick bozo

  • 203 toon kk // Jun 25, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    So many fans seem to think we have a great squad, well we may have got a few good deals here and there but lets be honest were just average in fact bottom half team at best. We are probably the slowest team in the premier league. We badly miss Ba and his goals. Unless we get a couple of top strikers in expect more of the same next season.

  • 204 Vancmagpie // Jun 25, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    @Lilongwe Geordie
    Like many Ashley supporters you try to twist things to suite your yourself because you could only come up with a few positives to back up your support.
    I never said i would like to spend 15 million on a player i merely stated we could afford up front fees as they were so low.
    Neither did i say i would prefer interest payments like i said its still a debt that has increased since Ashley took over.
    Yes i am a believer that the Ashley urine poured into your glass is to your taste as you just keep drinking what ever is poured in there.
    Now i`m off for a real beer and would you buy you one but your taste is different to mine.
    Enjoy your evening over there.

  • 205 Rooster // Jun 25, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    John Tudor, Sports Direct and NUFC are two seperate business concerns, its better for all of us if he builds more cash in to NUFC, he will spend more the more he generates in to the club that’s the way his businesses work, get ready for some decent signings coming soon whooohooo!

  • 206 John Tudor // Jun 25, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    no decent ones coming sorry he can have a 100 companies the man is either stupid or summit else i have no time for the man

  • 207 nufc786 // Jun 25, 2013 at 5:09 PM

  • 208 John Tudor // Jun 25, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    if i was to spend my money in whelans shops that would affect ashley but i wont buy there neither

  • 209 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    You obviously know absolutely zip about my views on Ashley. I’m not a supporter of his, so there is your first mistake. But what I can do is see things that he has done right at the club and I can also see the things he has done wrong at the club.

    You on the other hand seem unable to structure debates, and are blinkered by one view, so you have to resort to those sorts of comments. If you want to debate pro’s and con’s of ashley with people I suggest you read over Toon Prodigy’s posts as he is clearly more capable then you of discussion and then come back.

    Enjoy your beer, I would turn you down as I’m off to play 5 a side, plus your right, your beers over there are probably to light for my tastes. Prefer my ales thanks.

  • 210 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 25, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    Tudor, Ashley owns quite a large stake in Whelans company now. Not safe buying cheap sports gear anywhere! :-)

  • 211 Rotonda heights // Jun 25, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    I do find it bizarre that some people still champion Pardew and his route 1, defensive football which bypasses midfield and has up top of the most long balls hit brigade, even ahead of Stoke and West Ham.

    Not only bizarre as a spectacle to want to watch that, not only in the past and present but for the foreseeable and also weird in as much that it clearly doesn’t bear favourable results with 68 goals conceded in what is supposedly Pardew’s forte.

    We were all given the mantra of we only do it because of Simmo and Willo but those excuses became obsolete a long time ago.

    So while saying we only play that way due to certain factors, the reality is the pro-Pardew people clearly endorse and have no qualms or reservations about embracing defensive, long ball football.

    It would be marginally less awful to watch even if successful, but stranger still as it isn’t, but then no accounting for tastes I suppose.

  • 212 Trent Toon // Jun 25, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    I am all for this campaign! I have given Mike so much chances! This club has lost its magic. It was never meant to be this way. I need mike out! He needs to sell!

  • 213 low fell mag // Jun 25, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    One Tony Green,earlier on, you thought I had posted an article which you agreed with.
    Well the post 83 you wrote I could not agree more with.
    I do have a season ticket,and it makes me sick ,as most of the people in my area who knock Ashley do not .
    Once upon a time they did have .in the Keegan @ Andy cole days ,when everything was rosy in the garden,but they started to dwindle one by one.
    Now it goes something like this.Hello Mick,still getting to the match.NEE way not while that Fat Cockney c@unts there,not giving that Fat B@stard me money.
    A smashing excuse to go to the Black Horse have 6 pints of FOSTERS, Scream abuse at the TV,Ashley, anybody in a black@ white shirt who dares give the ball away.
    Then its off to the curry house for a chicken tikka take away,just in time for feet up @ Britains got talent.

  • 214 GeordieTwo // Jun 25, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    I think having Ashley in the mix is like having a huge lump of fat in your arteries. It’s bound to have a horrible effect eventually.

  • 215 Hobs // Jun 25, 2013 at 10:43 PM


    Totally agree with your posts in this thread. Just wanted to give you some positive feedback :)

    Keep posting, there are too many people in here who can only spot the negatives about Ashley and the club!

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