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Reports That Mike Ashley Willing To Sell Newcastle

12:40 am, Wednesday, June 26th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 150 Comments

We could have almost predicted that there would be some news that Mike Ashley was willing to sell Newcastle,  following the NUFC Fans United meeting on Monday night.

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Mike Ashley – willing to sell Newcastle?

At that meeting the Mike Ashley Out Campaign produced a motion, which you can read here, that Mike Ashley sell up and leave the club.

The news (which we have a hard job believing) from the Independent, is that Mike Ashley is now prepared to listen to offers for the club..

But the proviso is that Mike can recoup all the money he has put into Newcastle over the last six years, and that’s at least £300M, and probably more.

Mike tried to sell Newcastle after the Kevin Keegan affair in September of 2008, but he called if off in late December of that year, just before we were hammered  5-1 by Liverpool at St. James’Park – ouch!

And then when Newcastle were relegated in May of 2009, Mike  again tried to sell the club – but again there were no good offers.

Even if Mike put the club up for sale, it’s another thing to sell it, although we suppose there’s always hope that somebody linked with Newcastle and Tyneside, could come along and buy the club.

But we’d be very surprised if this is anything but a made-up story.

What do you think?

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150 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Schwefelberg // Jun 26, 2013 at 12:52 AM

    Ever since Mr. Ashley found aout about the debt he has thrown STILSON AFTER STILSON in to the club.

    He should have researched the position.
    But the stock market was not concerned.

  • 2 swemag // Jun 26, 2013 at 12:54 AM

    This will not happen. No one else would put that kind of money into our club. Stupid decisions, for sure, but he took over from a person that was not living in reality.

  • 3 blew // Jun 26, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    Ma has turned the club around financially and deserves credit for such. His downside is appointing dodgy incompetent mates and being loyal to them, until he realises their mistakes. Wise, Jiminez and LLambias being the ones, after their respective clangers and getting rid what does he do? Still turns to the old pals act and brings in Joe. He does not learn and along come the pressure groups. I wish he would realise his errors and bring in
    successful management and coaches to support the good financial footing he has put the in. Everyone would be happy.

  • 4 Tommyy // Jun 26, 2013 at 12:58 AM

    I second Blew’s opinion.

  • 5 kevymartins // Jun 26, 2013 at 12:58 AM

    Mike bought the club for around 130mil and im sure that a large amount of that debt is payed off now and if not im sure he would leave it to the new owners to pay it to him.Does he really think people are stupid also I reckon he has made alot of money via advertising he is taking the piss with that price tag.

  • 6 Tommyy // Jun 26, 2013 at 12:59 AM

    It’s exactly what everyone wants, I just can’t see why it doesn’t happen. Right ideas wrong, decisions at this club.

  • 7 veto // Jun 26, 2013 at 1:01 AM

    no chance anyone will pay what needs tobe paid for him to sell .
    cant belive we are going through all thi crap again off the back of a bad appointment at the football club ,
    the press though out hooks(like with this story by hardy) and caught lots of angry fishys .
    give it a rest everyone and lets just move on .

  • 8 Tommyy // Jun 26, 2013 at 1:01 AM

    Just imagine a sale to an ambitious and hungry owner, doesn’t have to be a multi- billionaire, just someone with enough to give us some teeth.

  • 9 Tommyy // Jun 26, 2013 at 1:02 AM

    If we want a change from this veto, then something has to be done and the wheels are beginning to roll.

  • 10 Schwefelberg // Jun 26, 2013 at 1:03 AM

    The story I heard was that he was close to sell in Middle east somewhere. But he became intoxicated and offended the buyer. I dont think he intended seriously to sell then.

  • 11 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 26, 2013 at 1:04 AM

    This is tabloid trash in order to sell papers.

    How do you turn a one story about unsettled fans into two stories? Pretend the owner is going to sell up.

    God I hate journalists.

  • 12 Tommyy // Jun 26, 2013 at 1:04 AM

    And where did you hear that? Sounds like pub talk to me.

  • 13 Tommyy // Jun 26, 2013 at 1:06 AM

    Ruddy – Except it’s not a tabloid, but it does seen elusively vague and tenuous a link to the supporter unrest.

  • 14 HAZZY1 // Jun 26, 2013 at 1:08 AM

    People shouldnt wish for this as it may turn out to a big mistake look at the players we have got on a budget and the money he forked out in jan he has made some big mistakes but he is learning im not his greatest fan but im scared of turning into a Blackburn than we would be complaining we have cleared most our debt and got a good team together I say give him a chance to prove us wrong if we complain he wont spend any money this summer we have to show we love our club and give MA a break.

  • 15 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 26, 2013 at 1:11 AM

    Tommy

    The “Independent” – false advertising, as no newspaper is truly independent, they all have an agenda.

    Cheap, gutter journalism trying to whip up a storm among fans, exploiting the sentiment of a region merely to sell papers.

    Thought Leveson was going to improve journalistic standards. Apparently not.

  • 16 Tommyy // Jun 26, 2013 at 1:22 AM

    Ruddy – I think sport is too big a commercial asset to attempt to clean up, the stories are what fuel a huge sector of the game. It’s a culture of sport.

    I’d like to bask in the hope of it being true.

  • 17 Tommyy // Jun 26, 2013 at 1:23 AM

    As in sports journalism.

  • 18 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jun 26, 2013 at 1:24 AM

    Tommy

    You could be right. I’m going to sway to the other end of the pendulum and be pretty sure it’s not true, purely because it’s come from journos.

    Anyway, I’m off to bed now folks. All the best

  • 19 Schwefelberg // Jun 26, 2013 at 1:28 AM

    Martin Hardy has just written another article about us.

    “but Newcastle-upon-Tyne, the industrial wasteland of south Scotland”

    Who is he talking about? I dont expect him to be impartial but at least be ACCURATE.

  • 20 blew // Jun 26, 2013 at 1:35 AM

    MA is a non communicator in both Sports Direct and NUFC, so how can The Independent state he is prepared to sell and quote a price? The journalist responsible will be at home making up this story and selling papers, most of which will put their version in todays papers. Many say we have the best squad since Sir Bobby’s days, I agree. So what went wrong? It can only be the manager and his coaches; I believe this is why MA has brought Joe in to sort it out for everyones benefit. Again, lets see what happens.

  • 21 swemag // Jun 26, 2013 at 1:35 AM

    Seems the sentiment here is somewhat different than the way the press keeps putting it. Prefer this than to what I read in the tabloids.
    Still, it is high time we get some movement in the transfer market. Not too sure about this Marseille Gignac, would much prefer Bony.

  • 22 Rooster // Jun 26, 2013 at 1:38 AM

    I remember Lambias saying maybe 18months ago that NUFC would listen to any offes for the club, he invited prospective buyers to buy a box first then take it from there, everything has its price, including NUFC.

    It does look like the independent are just looking to jump on the bandwagon,as we are big news again at the moment, parcel of shi.e article if you ask me, but I have always said if the right bid came in MA would go and take it.

  • 23 canuckmag // Jun 26, 2013 at 1:43 AM

    Since when has a percentage of 400 folk in a pub spoken for 50,000 others? I agree with Ruddy, nothing in this we are a soft target that journo’s love to attack. I would “love it” if we won something to shut them all up.

  • 24 Rooster // Jun 26, 2013 at 1:44 AM

    blew, exactly. lets see hat happens, the rumour mill is flying, we sell newspapers, no doubt about it, they will all want to get in on the action with their articles about us.

    We havnt brought anyone in yet, a number of clubs have not also, the mackems have brought 4 in, havnt a clue who they are, but they must have been scouted somewhere, big upheavel going on down there, im still hopeful and quite sure we will bring some quality in.

  • 25 MacToon // Jun 26, 2013 at 1:56 AM

    Minutes from the meeting:

    http://www.nufcfansutd.com/1/post/2013/06/minutes-from-open-meeting-240613-newcastle-labour-club.html

  • 26 jimmysmith // Jun 26, 2013 at 2:36 AM

    Well I want Ashley, but only to an ownership with financial clout, ambitions for the club, respect for our traditions and the necessary business acumen.

    I suppose qualified, interested candidates might be a little thin on the ground.

    How duff?

  • 27 jimmysmith // Jun 26, 2013 at 2:37 AM

    @25 , read Ashley out, of course.

  • 28 JAMSHA // Jun 26, 2013 at 3:42 AM

    Gm Lads…. Big Day Today, Will Be Getn My New Pc Afta 5 months Without Pc…

  • 29 roshan MAGPIE // Jun 26, 2013 at 3:58 AM

    Congratulation jamsha

  • 30 Santon03 // Jun 26, 2013 at 5:29 AM

    Football is the biggest sport in the world and people are fanatic about their football team which make an easy target for media. Even if everything is smooth and happy happy, they will create some scandals because it sells.
    I’m affraid that players will have 2nd thought joining NUFC because of this kind publicity, fake publicty by the media. The journalist really added exotic spices and cooked it into delicious dish.

    If I’m not mistaken, Capello also has problems with the press.

  • 31 JAMSHA // Jun 26, 2013 at 5:36 AM

    roshan MAGPIE

    tnxxx also m.a will be leavn 😀

  • 32 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Jun 26, 2013 at 5:47 AM

    Gignac seems like the now classic of modern Newcastle smokescreen. Too old, too pricy, not really worth it.

    We’ll buy a much cheaper player and in september say “because of all the upheaval we just couldn’t get any more ‘over the line'”.

    Oh and “LUCKILY we’re not in europe this year so don’t need to buy any more players”.

    arghhererfgdf….

  • 33 Whoarya.com // Jun 26, 2013 at 6:12 AM

    Be careful what you wish for.

    Remember Leeds, Portsmouth, Rangers and Blackburn?

    Shut uppa your faces LOL

    It’s beyond mentalist

  • 34 Santon03 // Jun 26, 2013 at 6:29 AM

    Manutd signed Wilfried Zaha for 10.3mil pounds.

    Milan cancelled Tevez move and going after Honda as primary target, Tevez move to Juve for 15mil pound. They also talking about Kaka-El Sharawy swap deal with Madrid.

    Liverpool signed Mignolett.

    Isco rejected ManCity, joining Madrid.

    Dries Merten joining Napoli for 9.5mil euro.

    Norwich is making bid for Toivonen for 5mil pound, PSV asking for 8mil.

  • 35 Jail for Ashley // Jun 26, 2013 at 6:33 AM

    Hazzy,
    ” we shouldn’t complain as Mikey might not spend anymore money ”
    You sound like a battered wife afraid to speak out in case the beatings get worse.

  • 36 Santon03 // Jun 26, 2013 at 6:52 AM

    I would love to have Massimo Ambrossini in our team, very good experience. He could give positive input to our young players. Plus he is free.

  • 37 cyprus // Jun 26, 2013 at 6:55 AM

    Well that would bring stability if he left!

  • 38 Abu Qatada - I'm not Joking ere keep off Pardew's Kebab. // Jun 26, 2013 at 6:56 AM

    Hazzy @ 14 I do agree with most of what your saying, I would like Ashley out but who is around to buy the club, I can’t see to many people having the money. These meetings/protests are a great idea if you have something set up to replace him but we haven’t. Last time Barry Moat was the closest we came to a buyer and after buying the club he wouldn’t have had a penny to spend! that would take us to the Shepherd days.

  • 39 Abu Qatada - I'm not Joking ere keep off Pardew's Kebab. // Jun 26, 2013 at 7:00 AM

    Unless any one wants to take out a WONGA loan to buy the club – that would generate a lot of interest!

  • 40 cyprus // Jun 26, 2013 at 7:01 AM

    Abu, correct.
    This subject should be dropped. Those MA out fools DO NOT have a plan.

  • 41 Bearsize // Jun 26, 2013 at 7:17 AM

    He will never sell. All smoke screens till we are doing better, then we will slip back off the market. Bed time now

  • 42 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 26, 2013 at 7:18 AM

    Howay Toon, give us a new signing, anything to drain away all the negativity and kickstart some new topics.

    Whats the word on this Gignac? False starter?

  • 43 WWYCD // Jun 26, 2013 at 7:20 AM

    I do like the theory that if Ashley sells we will almost certainly be lumbered with someone worse…why’s that exactly?

    Good business man horrible owner imo I hope he sells up and buggers off never to be seen up here again. Also on a side note all that debt is still there it’s just owed to Ashley

  • 44 bills-son // Jun 26, 2013 at 7:33 AM

    The problem we have got with attracting a mega – billionaire owner who could could buy our way to success ala Abramovich and the Maktoums is. … Newcastle.

    The really top players and their wives and partners want the gltzy lifestyle and that just isnt available in the Bigg Market and Quayside. We might not like it but the glamour of London and even Manchester is a way ahead of Newcastle and an owner would either have to pay massive wages to persuade top players to come and even then they might not.

    For me, that means any owner would be second or third league in comparison to the really rich boys and some of these guys have been an absolute disaster at clubs like Portsmouth, Blackburn and QPR.

    Like others have said, be careful what you wish for. Ashley is nowhere near as bad as he is made out and one thing he does superbly is run a tight financial ship. Ask fans of the aforementioned clubs if they’d an owner like Ashley. …

  • 45 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 26, 2013 at 7:37 AM

    I’v got little belief left in Ashley, the last events didn’t show any care or consideration for the club or fans.

    Too many unnecessary mistakes, drama, embarrassments.

    While im thankful for the financial side of the club. The football side is and has been a total mess from the start. Just how many managers have we had in 5-6 years, the turmoil with recruitment in staff and players and contracts. Lack of quality throughout the squad.

    We continously bounce from one bombshell to the next.

    Problem is, who on earth has the reddies to pay for us and pay off the debt we owe Ashley. I would never want to see us turn into a Chelsea or City.

    Suppose where just stuck inbetween a rock and a hard place.

  • 46 banjax // Jun 26, 2013 at 7:39 AM

    Made up story ? Yes. But everything has a price – but who is prepared to pay it ?

  • 47 sparky55 // Jun 26, 2013 at 7:44 AM

    We’ve always had the same problem attracting top players because of where we are geographically but if an arab did buy the club and offered the really big money then players being the mercenaries they are would come.

    Our issue is more about the manager and the owner. With Keegan in charge and Hall who was pretty good at supporting keegan, we very nearly did it and that could happen again in my opinion if a wealthy arab bought the club…but then he’d have to sack everyone involved in the football side of things and start again by investing in a top manager and giving him a blank canvas to deliver a footballing vision.

    The current bunch of clowns would just waste the new owners money as they are now with Ashleys money. We’ve got a great squad and muppet manager who doesn’t know what to do with them and a DOF who’s recognised world wide as dinosaur suffering from dementia and turrets syndrome…you gotta laf really!

  • 48 WWYCD // Jun 26, 2013 at 7:44 AM

    Prodigy
    U never want to see us in CL every year, employing world class players, fighting for the title and watching great quality football every week? Dunno mate I am not against it

  • 49 check the toastie // Jun 26, 2013 at 7:49 AM

    Bills son – now comparing Newcastle to Portsmouth QPR and Blackburn, pretty much says all you need to know about his ambition for the Toon.

    Wallowing in mediocrity and perennial losers for year, Newcastle United Fans are the stupidest in the world. No other set of fans would accept this, vote with your feet and stay away until some major ambition and thought is applied to the managing of our football team.

    PARDEW OUT.

  • 50 sparky55 // Jun 26, 2013 at 7:52 AM

    We need a manager who can attract top players (that rules out Pardew in an instant because he’s complete waste of space) and a DOF who knows the modern game and players (which in effect is Graham Carr) but because pardew and carr were falling out in lumps Ashley puts in JFK as a ref and all hell breaks loose.

    For all of Ashleys brilliant business acumen it’s amazing he puts in such amateurs in such important roles to run his 300 million investment…never have I seen such a poor management structure in such a large business unit…it’s farcical.

    Please please please sell it and then the new owner will do the obvious and sack the lot of the useless tw@ts

  • 51 Markaccus // Jun 26, 2013 at 7:52 AM

    Prodigy

    Thats exactly what i said yesterday. Financially its all good but he is a total cluster-f**k when it comes to football decisions.

    WWYCD

    I think what he means is that he doesnt want us to start spending idiot money on players just so half of them fk off at tje slightest sign of trouble.

  • 52 WWYCD // Jun 26, 2013 at 7:53 AM

    Markaccus
    So u prefer to pay cheap skate money and get the same result?

  • 53 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 26, 2013 at 7:54 AM

    WWYCD,

    I’d love to see that within reason.

    There is something about waiting 44 yrs or so for a trophy and then someone coming and buying us one that I dislike. I want to see it done properly.

    Then in my opinion, all the billionaires in the world can take us where ever they want 😉

  • 54 bills-son // Jun 26, 2013 at 7:55 AM

    Sparky55 – we can’t attract top players with Pardew as manager?

    So, you obviously believe Debucht, Santon, Mbiwa, Cabaye, Sissoko, HBA and Cisse are rubbish.

    Interesting.

  • 55 WWYCD // Jun 26, 2013 at 7:56 AM

    Oh and we couldn’t attract much because we are Newcastle? Manchester streets ahead of us geographically, We have had amazing players in the past and to my knowledge the city hasn’t moved

  • 56 WWYCD // Jun 26, 2013 at 7:59 AM

    Prodigy
    Fair point, in an ideal world I agree but realistically if a billionaire comes in splashed the cash and we win the FA cup in his first season I won’t be think about him

  • 57 WWYCD // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:01 AM

    Thinking*

  • 58 cyprus // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:01 AM

    Tevez in black and white!

  • 59 sparky55 // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:02 AM

    bill-son

    where did I say they were rubbish…I said we weren’t able to attract top players.

    None of the list you’ve subsequently provided are proven top players with the exception of Cabs who had a rubbish second season and spent half of the season in front of a shrink.

    What have any of the players you have listed actually achieved in football apart from playing for top French teams on 20k a week and getting some Champions league experience now and again by qualifying from a poor french league.

  • 60 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:04 AM

    WWYCD,

    I’d be far too drunk to be thinking about anything.

    It will come one day.

  • 61 bills-son // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:04 AM

    Check the toastie – dont talk nonsense.

    I’m not comparing us to Portsmouth, Blackburn and QPR I’m merely saying that these clubs were bought by millionaires who did a damn site worse than Ashley. None of them are now in the Prem, all are debt laden and their squads are full of players nobody wants.

    The so called damage that Ashley has done to our club is ridiculously over exaggerated.

    I’ve just come back from holiday abroad and most football fans of other clubs I talk to think that NUFC fans are a laughing stock – not Ashley – for moaning when we have some great players that we have signed for peanuts. They don’t believe we’ll have another relegation fight next season and neither do I.

  • 62 Slank // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:05 AM

    I guess the decision for Ashley is all about whether there is a more cost effective way of advertising Sports Direct to a world audience.

    As it stands with Premiership coverage worldwide I cannot see anything better than through ownership of Newcastle United.

    Whatever might happen the fans don’t have any influence or say in the matter. Owners have agendas that don’t include the fans no matter what they may say.

  • 63 bills-son // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:06 AM

    Sparky55 – so they are rubbish then.

    Cos thats basically exactly what you are saying.

  • 64 WWYCD // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:06 AM

    Prodigy
    Haha me too mate so bring on the spending 😉

  • 65 bills-son // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:06 AM

    Rubbish at the moment anyway.

  • 66 naptoon // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:06 AM

    not going to happen this is another load of bs from martin hardy at the independent. so far hes started the carr leaving, benny “might” be leaving and now this since kinnear came. the bloke is a mackem pric with his own agenda and he hates us geordies … the bloke needs a slap.
    love the way how in this article he refers to newcastle as ” the industrial wasteland of south scotland” the pric.
    ed please do not give this clowns fairytales a platform for discussion.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/martin-hardy-three-months-is-a-long-time-at-newcastle-united–a-club-where-so-much-happens-but-nothing-ever-changes-8673784.html

  • 67 sparky55 // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:07 AM

    WWYCD…look at the team that finished second…the fact us Keegan got more than sum of the parts because he was such a great motivator…but look at that team we had then and then look at Man u’S and liverpool and the like…they were always able to attract better players than we could even with Keegan in charge…Our location does put players off…or should I say put their wives off which is sad indictment of the modern player for sure but nevertheless a valid one

  • 68 sparky55 // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:10 AM

    Bill-son…no not rubbish…but not top players either

  • 69 ochytoon // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:10 AM

    Sparky
    Spot on. If they were top players, they wouldn’t be playing for us.

  • 70 WWYCD // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:13 AM

    sparky
    It puts some players off but not all specially if we start winning things, that’s the only reason Manchester is better than us success and money both far more important to players(and their families) than geography

    And fact is u get the right owner with money and success is far more likely

  • 71 sparky55 // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:17 AM

    WWYCD…so we’re 100% in agreement then! :-)

  • 72 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:17 AM

    We don’t have an amazing squad.

    We have a decent first 11. And the bench and back up has just been rectified in January and are still very much unproven.

    I do feel people over hype are squad like.

  • 73 sparky55 // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:18 AM

    which also means we’ll never be able to attract a top player again with Pardew and JFK running the club! :-(

  • 74 Markaccus // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:20 AM

    WWYCD

    I dont mean cheapskate money, i just dont want silly money spent on flops. Chelsea and city would be in trouble if the owners ever got sick of the players they demanded from the manager not working out and left to do some other millionaire pass time. I wouldnt want that hanging over us. I would like a bit more player investment, just not on that scale

  • 75 Rotonda heights // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:26 AM

    Rumours were Ash asked the Mansoor’s for 800M before they bought city so 267M seems a bargain for a financially sound club with all the TV revenue etc coming in.

    Of course Pardew and co would have to be paid off and a proper manager etc come in but even so is 267M so outlandish?

    Elmanio was on the other day saying something about the Saudi crown prince which I took with the usual pinch of salt, but maybe just maybe…..

    I think it’s a shame because in some ways Ash has repaired a lot of damage but at the same time created a lot of his own making by not appointing the right people
    in key areas.

  • 76 Santon03 // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:27 AM

    Having so many fans means having million ideas on how the club can succeed. If Ashley has to give a damn on every ideas, it would be major headache. Just look at who we should buy this summer according people on this blog alone, it would be more than 100 players, should Ashley buy all of them to make all of us happy? Everyone has different ideas on who should become DOF probably about 100 ideas, should we have 100 DOF? Every decision will have some pro & contra, he can’t make every wish come true, he is not Santa. Some people might become very extreme when their wishes are not materialised and start saying Ashley out, I don’t think they want what is best for the club. Everything has consequences, some decisions have to be made and some people may not like it but it’s being made with one purpose to make this club successful with the resources that we have. Some decisions will be brilliant and some will be disaster, and things will not always go as planned 100%. Ashley definitely doesn’t like losing especially with his money involved. Even with different owner, these things will not stop, there will always be group of people unhappy with how things being done.

  • 77 jayphoto // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:27 AM

    Not sure marseille want 12m to get rid of Gignac! Pretty sure hes only got 1 year left on his contract, a couple of seasons ago they agreed to loan him to fulham with option to buy for 6m but pulled out because their replacement fell through! Hed be a very good fit with the team, very physical, can play wide of a three too, out of all the strikers we’ve been linked to i think hed pair best with cisse! Hes a strange guy though, french gypsy, was expected to really hit heights a few years ago and has never really fulfilled his potential

  • 78 cyprus // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:28 AM

    Toon-Prodigy,
    You do have a point there. If they were THAT good they’d perform despite the manager…
    Slow, can’t last 90’…

  • 79 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:29 AM

    It wasn’t Ashley’s fault that the Keegan era did not continue.

    Keegan knew that to stay at the top we had to pay more than other clubs to get players – also had to sell Newcastle because the press gave the City a bad name – dirty, cold, full of drunks etc.,

    It started to go downhill when the Halls and Shepherds got greedy taking money out of the club – floating it on the stock exchange – and Hall knew being a business man that the club could not be financial viable to keep on paying top money for transfer fees and players wages and not getting the money in.

    To me it was a lot of things but mainly the clubs foundations were built on quicksand.

    Ashley has sorted the financial base of the club out but now needs to sort out the playing manager side of the club out – quick as possible.

    My worry is that the club is sold to the highest bidder like the Venkies at Blackburn or some asset stripping business who don’t give a s**t what happens.

    Thats my rant

  • 80 cyprus // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:30 AM

    Good points Santon03

  • 81 Slank // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:31 AM

    bills-son @ 60

    I too have spoken to fans of other clubs who say the same thing that they regard Newcastle fans as delusional laughing stock.

  • 82 sparky55 // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:31 AM

    At the end of the day we have what we have and we’ll do better than last year even with Pardew in charge and much much better when we sack him.

    The squad is a decent squad, the management are terrible and therein the lies the big problem.

    The squad deserves better and as soon as Ashley recognises that the better…but then again his ambition does not match that of the fans so his thought process is why throw more money at the club when premiership survival is all that matters to maintain the high profile from an advertising of SD’s perspective.

    I personally think he’s come to the conclusion nufc has just about done it’s job in getting SD established at a higher level and now will contribute little in getting the brand developed any further…I think he’ll sell now as soon as he can.

  • 83 Santon03 // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:33 AM

    So.. why did Hall & Shepperd sold this club?

  • 84 WWYCD // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:35 AM

    Markaccus
    Equally that owner could fall in love with NUFC and stay for the long haul, just because they are rich doesn’t mean passion can’t be there. Personally am in the fence but success in football now is rarely not backed by huge sums of money. Specially in the top leagues and the PL is arguably the best in the league

  • 85 cyprus // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:36 AM

    sparky55,
    You make a lot of sense but I disagree that the success of SD has anything to do with NUFC.

    I am assuming that you believe that any publicity is good for a company, but there is really very little proof of that.

    Ask yourself, do people buy at SD because of the NUFC links? Ever?

  • 86 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:37 AM

    Santo03

    I know I have posted this many times – bore bore bore but it shows what was going wrong

    From big spenders to big earners

    Since Newcastle United were floated on the Stock Exchange in April 1997 the Hall family and Freddy Shepherd have earned from the club as follows:

    Sales of shares by Cameron Hall, Sir John and Douglas Hall’s company:

    December 1998 Sold 6.3% to NTL: £10m

    December 1999 Sold 3.26% to NTL: £5.28m

    December 1999 Douglas Hall sold 0.39% to NTL: £0.57m

    June 2003 Sold 11.4% to Newcastle United itself: £4.5m

    Total earned by Hall family in sales of Newcastle United shares £20.35m

    Sales of shares by Freddy Shepherd Nil

    Shepherd and his brother, Bruce, have increased their shareholding, via their company, Shepherd Offshore, from 7% at the time of flotation to 28% now

    Dividends paid by Newcastle United plc to shareholders 1998-2005

    Total to Halls: £13,698,280

    Total to Shepherds: £5,489,239

    Salary packages paid

    Year Hall Shepherd

    1999 £23,533 £23,533

    2000 £35,000 £75,000

    2001 £110,000 £232,868

    2002 £524,257 £591,639

    2003 £591,667 £668,920

    2004 £635,465 £717,145

    2005 £495,951 £552,954

    Total £2,415,873 £2,862,059

    Totals made from Newcastle United 1999 to 2005

    Sir John, Douglas and Cameron Hall: £36,466,153

    Freddy Shepherd and Shepherd Offshore: £ 8,351,298

    Total £44,817,451

    Figures compiled with assistance of Ian Ferguson from http://www.nufc-finances.org.uk

    Totals made from Newcastle United in a 6 year period

    Sir John, Douglas and Cameron Hall: £36,466,153

    Freddy Shepherd and Shepherd Offshore: £ 8,351,298

    Total £44,817,451
    That equals over &7 million per year

    AND

    In summary what Shepherd left was a club that was losing over £30m a year, had debts of £70m, had no assets they could borrow more money against, and had a set of players on long, lucrative contracts. Ashley can get rid of the debt but the £30m annual losses with over paid players will take longer to sort out.

    TREAD?THE?FACTS at http://www.nufc-finances.org.uk

  • 87 JAMSHA // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:40 AM

    can we get Thorgan Hazard on loan?

  • 88 Slank // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:40 AM

    WWYCD @ 69

    I agree that players want success and that’s why so many have over the years been attracted to Manchester and Liverpool. These two clubs are synonymous with success and trophies, more so ManU and less so now Liverpool. It’s certainly not the geograpthy or the weather unlike clubs in London.

    London is probably the greatest city in the world and I suppose if you asked the players wifes (who do have a say in their husband’s decisions) where they would like to live it will probably be London.

  • 89 Toon-Prodigy // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:41 AM

    Other clubs fans think we are delusional because of the media.

    It’s what they read day in day out and it’s how we are portrayed.

    Every fan I know just wants the football club to be shown respect and to be professionally run without the constant dramas and embarrassments.

    We don’t shout for Messi’s and Ronaldo’s. We just want to see good players brought in that show a bit of pride for the shirt who give 100%.

  • 90 cyprus // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:44 AM

    Slank,
    London the greatest city in the world?!

  • 91 Slank // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:44 AM

    Santon03 @ 82

    ‘…So.. why did Hall & Shepperd sold this club…’

    For Hall it was probably he needed the money. I’m not so sure about Shepherd as I recall he was in hospital at the time and was taken by suprise that Hall has sold up and left him outflanked.

  • 92 Slank // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:45 AM

    cyprus

    It certainly ain’t Nicosia !

  • 93 JAMSHA // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:45 AM

    can we get Thorgan Hazard

  • 94 cyprus // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:46 AM

    Slank,
    Definitely! :)
    But I’d rather live here, tried them both…

  • 95 Santon03 // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:48 AM

    Slank @89

    So.. the financial crisis is true then?

  • 96 Slank // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:48 AM

    Toon-Prodigy @ 87

    ‘Other clubs fans think we are delusional because of the media. It’s what they read day in day out and it’s how we are portrayed….’

    No smoke without fire. How else do fans of other clubs get their information, through the press.

  • 97 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:49 AM

    Cyprus,
    People might not buy because of NUFC links, but it is a case of brand recognition. If you are shown enough of something, then you will automatically notice it as you go past, as the brain recognises the image. If you are a toon fan here, it might have negative connotations, which prevents you going in. If you are in Asia, or the US then you may think, oh yeah, I’ve seen that watching the EPL and then use the store next time you want sportswear that falls to bits after a week.

    Ashley, maybe 4-6 months ago, bought a stake in one of china’s biggest sportswear retailers. If the chinese see the SD branding and link it to the Prem, he could make fortunes.

  • 98 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:54 AM

    Look at the stunt with the coffin by the fans. Other clubs fans were laughing at us for that. The “messiah” treatment given to certain people.

    We bring it on ourselves, although when sky/bbc/itv/any tv channel interview people on the streets they always manage to find at least one or two moronic fans who believe that we should be winning the everything under the sun, and that is what they screen. Making the rest of us look deluded.

  • 99 cyprus // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:58 AM

    Lilongwe Geordie,
    You are right about brand recognition and the subconscious. But, with the kind of money he’s invested I (or any ad agency) could achieve much wider and more positive recognition using other means. In fact, he could have SD mega-signs in many stadia for less than one star player’s salary. Remember how much he was asking for someone else to be the main sponsor at SJ.

    I honestly think this is (was?) his pet project and there were other motives when he was buying. Of course, neither of us could prove his real intentions unless he actually told us… we are just speculating.

    Profit from a football club is a dumb motive to buy and if that’s what he was thinking then it was a dumb decision.

  • 100 Slank // Jun 26, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    Lilongwe Geordie @ 95

    Re the Chinese link. I think the mass worldwide coverage of the Premiership is possibly upper most in Ashley’s view of how best to advertise the Sports Direct brand.

    I doubt there can be many, if any, supporters of other clubs in England who do not associate Newcastle with Sports Direct. This associatation will spread to other countries.

    Some 400 Geordie fans having a complaint isn’t going to change Ashley’s mind. He has a different agenda and the value of it far exceeds whatever many fans think of him. Sir John said, something to the effect that, when he sold Ashley would use the club to promote Sports Direct

  • 101 JAMSHA // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:00 AM

    Mark Douglas @MsiDouglas 2m
    #nufc transfer breakthrough is
    ‘imminent’ after lunch talks between
    Carr & Kinnear… bit.ly/19Bc0vz

  • 102 jimmysmith // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:03 AM

    Newcastle are not a pile of shite, we’re great even as we are, it’s just realistically we should have achieved 10 to 20 % more over the last 50 years and that probably equates to half a dozen major trophies, probably all down to mismanagement and cronyism.

    This lot are the best ever equipped to have a tilt at honors though, but choose not to. So ironic, can’t f@cken win.

  • 103 sirjasontoon // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:06 AM

    I love Mike Ashley xxxxx

  • 104 sirjasontoon // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:07 AM

    But Derek Lambeezee was my favourite.

  • 105 cyprus // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:08 AM

    He may have those sinister punitive plans yet-
    This is a micro-case and I have no proof, but:

    The new SD store in Nicosia has (seemingly, no stats) outstripped + outsold every other similar store in this city. Now, if you asked the dozens of customers walking in and out, how many would know of the NUFC link? How many would even associate with the PL at all? Haven’t done this study, but my educated guess is- none!

  • 106 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:11 AM

    Cyprus,
    I’m sure you could have achieved it for less then the star players wages. But, what you have forgotten there is that by the end of Ashley’s tenure, he doesn’t expect to be selling for less than he has paid out, therefore this advertising globally would have been all for free.

    As for other motives, a quote from John Hall when asked why he sold it to Ashley
    “I was told that the man behind the deal was Mike Ashley and I sat with his representatives over 3 days thrashing out a deal. I was keen to know why they wanted the club and they were quite honest. They wanted to market their sports goods in the Far East and would use the Club to help do this. “

  • 107 G // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:11 AM

    Lets pretend for a moment that this article has any credence to it. If there is any truth to the news, then that would mean MA is unlikely to release more cash for transfers without hiking up the price. MA, as a businessman, must realise that the team needs investment, otherwise we are likely to face another relegation battle. In my eyes that would not make us an attractive investment asset. In summary, lets face it, everybody above who reckons this is press sensationalism, and a complete non-story, pat yourselves on the back for being correct.

  • 108 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:13 AM

    Jamsha,
    I’ve read the article, it basically just says we are definitely after a striker and centre back. Pardew mentioned Bent and Tomkins, Carr still likes the continental route. Bids will be tabled soon.

    Saying breakthrough is more journalist sensationalism

  • 109 G // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:14 AM

    Cyprus, SD are in Nicosia now? What a marvellous way to tarnish, an otherwise fantastic city. I still remember getting really excited in my younger days when they opened Pizza Hut and MacDonald’s there! How times change.

  • 110 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:16 AM

    Cyprus,
    Knowingly, maybe, but subconsciously, it is nigh on impossible to say. I assume Cyprus shows a lot of Prem football most weekends?

  • 111 cyprus // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:18 AM

    Lilongwe Geordie,
    Interesting quote, that last sentence. If Hall is saying the truth, I stand corrected. But, subsequently, ‘intentionally’ stirring up trouble (not in the manner of your Benettons and Calvin Kleins), appointing dumb managers to say stupid things, having people swear at you and threaten family members etc. wow that IS an innovative marketing approach.

  • 112 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:18 AM

    I don’t mean you show a lot of Prem games obviously the countrys tv network…

  • 113 cyprus // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:19 AM

    Lilongwe Geordie,
    yes, all the games on TV

  • 114 cyprus // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:20 AM

    G,
    yes, civilisation has arrived now that SD is here :)

  • 115 jimmysmith // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:21 AM

    I get the sense that in reality the club sees this current squad as topn8 as is, and by no means a relegation threatened squad.

    I think it’s on the cards that we won’t sign anyone if we aren’t on the winning side of any deal. This is exactly what happened last off season with what was then a weaker squad. Joe might be more persuasive than Llambias, but lets not forget who he’s trying to cajole into parting with his dosh, old beer bottle pockets his very self.

  • 116 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:22 AM

    Cyprus,
    As long as we are in the Prem though, he is achieving that marketing goal.

    I think though, once Ashley bought the club he probably also wanted success, and wanted to become ‘loved’ by the fans. But when things turned sour, he reverted to his original aims. SD global domination.

  • 117 G // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:22 AM

    Sorry to bang on about this, but I feel a little nostalgic now, but is there an open border now? And also is that god-awful Turkish crest still hovering over the city to the north on a hillside? (No offence to the Turkish readers, it just looked hideous on that hill over the city)

  • 118 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    Jimmy,
    Old beerbottle pockets who has personally spent 267million on the club….

  • 119 Markaccus // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:24 AM

    There was a Macdonalds in sidari on corfu a few years back, but the locals were not happy with some of the business practices ( i suspect they didn’t “play the game” so to speak). So the franchise failed. I heard this direct from the people in and around sidari.

    Just goes to show what can happen to a huge company if even a reletively small populace decide against them!

  • 120 Lilongwe Geordie // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    Markaccus,
    True, but a franchise is different from the big company, they receive support, but the finance is all coming from the people who buy the franchise, so the failure is more against them the Macdonalds.

  • 121 jimmysmith // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    LILO, that money was spent to essentially purchase a marketing arm and pay off a debt. It was a savvy business move and vastly different to speculating on football players as far as I can tell.

  • 122 markmac // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    @3 BLEW – my thoughts entirely, perfectly described.

  • 123 Markaccus // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:32 AM

    Lilongwe, yes. But Maccy dees will have certain standards of business that the franchise would have to stick to. Business is done “differently” in greece so i guess some of the corporate guide lines did not fit with the, erm, authorities, shall we say, in the locality 😀 . Like i say, i heard alot of this first hand.

  • 124 one Tony Green // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    @ Rotonda behave Rumour has it Ashley asked for 800,000,000 there was never any negotiations in the first place this was another urban myth created by the Anti Ashley Group.

    Ed@ being a bit naughty the article in the Independent states 267 million which is nowhere near 300.

    You know the sad thing is many Newcastle Fans do not realise that other fans are laughing at them not Mike Ashley. Talk of the fans owing the club or a share like Barcelona and in Germany is an absolute joke. Nothing would ever get done through petty squabbling.

    Charlie those figures are astounding. I am right in thinking Hall and Shepherd also received another 35 million when the club was sold to MA.

  • 125 sparky55 // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    Cyprus…sorry for the delay in coming back to you…just had some stuff to do but lilongwe in my absence has pretty much summed up what I think anyway.

    Ashley is very shrewd man…just before he bought newcastle, SD had floated and then gone considerably backwards in terms of share value. The purchase of NUFC was purely and simply to help advertise the brand on the biggest stage in the world…the premiership.

    All he’s actually done wrong from a footballing perspective is continually hire muppets to run the football club…but from a SD perspective the acquisition of NUFC has been nothing but an unbridled success.

    He knows retail and how to make money…the one thing he doesn’t know anything about is how to successfully run a football club and that’s become apparent and clear many times over.

    It’s a shame…if he loved the club it’d be different but the fans made sure he didn’t fall in love with the club by more or less making it impossible to attend matches so I guess we can only blame ourselves for that bit…but then again he doesn’t exactly do much to endear us to him either!!!

  • 126 Goodfella // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    @markacus 119
    I remember that McDonald’s well hahaha 😉

  • 127 Markaccus // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:37 AM

    Goodfella

    They didnt have any bbq sauce. I jad to mix ketchup and mayo to make something i could dip my chips in. (I dont eat their fries now, because of what happened at the olympics)

  • 128 one Tony Green // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    Jimmy it was Mike Ashley who personally brought in our 5 January signings. I know people will not want to hear this but if you sign a player for 10 million on a 5 year deal you have to factor their wages in.
    This wage structure also attempts to prevent a new player being paid more than existing players so that the club do not have parasite agents demanding new contracts.

  • 129 pawl250 // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    WHY do people want Mike Ashley to leave?

    Other than the odd bad decision which normally comes around to make sense at some point he has done well for this club!

    He has sold no BIG players other than Carroll, WHICH started uproar at the time and in the end was the deal of the century! I mean Liverpool have taken a 20m loss on the price they bought him for! And he arguably isnt worth 15m!

    Name another player that we have lost since?!

    He brought in Keegan for the fans, and although a legend he was a fossil in the modern era. Sorry but he was. The buys of Colo, Jonas are from Dennis Wise not Keegan, and although we got Xisco in that time we really forced Wise out the club.

    He choose Kinnear for manager, but really WHO wanted to come to Newcastle which at the time was a mess.

    Shearer was fans choice of manager, and still he didnt do anything, infact he will never be a good manager while I have a hole in my ……

    Chris Hughton appointment was met with skeptical eyes, but he did marvelous, and well I cannot really see why we sacked him in the end but still he was doing it in the sense to improve the club. Not lower it, he has no benefit in doing that!

    Then DL came in and we managed to find a negative in that, but he has negotiated excellent players, for excellent value. He comes across as a very logical business man and well people still moaned about it.

    WHY?! Because he changed a Stadium name in the attempt to generate Revenue?! Its the times deal with it! Ok its sad to see the name change overall, BUT its a name the history and stadium still exist!

    THEN Pardew ok, I never understood the appointment, but last season fans were singing his name. Then since he went down hill, YES but really he has not done that bad a job. He is just off 3rd for all time winning percentages, and his whole tenure was in the PL.

    He has not done that bad of a job!

    Overall the team is the strongest I have seen since Bobby and the days of Robert, Bellmay, Shearer, Speed, Solano etc.

    We have a fantastic policy!

    The appointment of Joe Kinnear may look skeptical. It is not, he is doing to improve the club, I personally understand the background of Kinnear coming in someone with football knowledge. BUT I feel Joe Kinnear was the wrong man for the job.

    BUT who am I?! Ashley has done so far more positives for this club than negative.

    Give the bloke more time, he may surprise you. Joe Kinnear is the only farce right now at this club, and thats because he does not come across well in the press.

    Overall I think its all being blown out of proportion, and the last thing we need in crucial times is a owner that could end up making us like Portsmouth dropping through divisions.

    With Ashley I feel PL will always be a factor, I also feel he will always want to finish in top 10.

    Half the fans are like sheep, and dont form their own logical opinion, they just follow the crowd.

    If you look at what MA has done overall, he has done more positives then negatives, he just doesn’t care about what people think.

    A logical person will look at him and say he is a business man, he is not going to appoint someone for the sake of it. He is doing it to ultimately for what he believes will improve the club, in return making him more money!

    Owning a PL club, that is self sustained, or not far off is a massive thing these days.

    YES we owe him money, but atleast we are not paying interest in debts increasing them in the process.

    If fans understood the financial impact MA has made then they would appreciate him more. YET they just want to spout drivel over meaningless things!

    Ask yourself, Keegan, the fans choice! If he was so good WHY is he sitting on TV at ESPN, a second rate PL coverage channel?!

    Shearer, great footballer, awful manager! Again what is he doing sitting on TV on MOTD!?

    Seriously, wake up and realise a good thing while it is infront of you!

    We have a decent team, and average manager. Last season we received ALOT of injuries, being negative in this way only attracts more bad press, ultimately making NUFC look like a clown club in the process. It also makes it less attractive to new players in talks with the club!

    All this campaign is doing is shooting itself in the foot! Seriously get a grip and support the club rather than advertising it as a shambles!

  • 130 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:41 AM

    If you look at all the f ups MA has made at Newcastle it is a hard to hold him dear!

    …we would love for someone to be here who wanted to be here not just for the money and free advetisement!

  • 131 Goodfella // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:41 AM

    No BBQ sauce what! :( What happened at the olympics like?

  • 132 jimmysmith // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:42 AM

    yes, we have behaved as poorly as each other over the past 6 years. I’m sure both parties will continue to suffer as a result.

  • 133 Markaccus // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:42 AM

    Pawl

    I want him to leave because discussing him makes people post MASSIVE chunks of text that i just cant face reading 😀

  • 134 Goodfella // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:42 AM

    Previous @ markaccus

  • 135 jayjo // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:46 AM

    If this is factual them we are in trouble …. Forget being bought by a Russian billionaire or a Sheik … they wont like it North of London

    Look at that other provincial club … Successfull years ago … parallels with NUFC —- BLACKBURN ROVERS

    If Mike Ashley sells to a potential idiot then forget premier league we will implode

    YOU NEVER KNOW HOW GOOD YOU HAVE IT UNTIL ITS GONE

  • 136 one Tony Green // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    @ Paw Just stood up and applauded your post. I wish the papers and TV CREWS WOULD STOP AND TALK TO SOMEONE LIKE YOU RATHER THAN LOOK FOR SOME NUMPTY.

    I ALSO THINK PLAYERS LIKE SHEARER SHOULD KNOW BETTER THE MONEY FROM OPENING NIGHT OF THE OPENING OF 9 IS ALL GOING TO HIS FOUNDATION AND THIS WAS AGREED WEEKS AGO. JUST LIKE THE SHEAR SIGN WAS ACTUALLY BEING REMOVED PRIOR TO HIS ARTICLE.

  • 137 Markaccus // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    Goodfella

    Nowhere in the london olympic village was allowed to sell chips (appart from fish and chips as our national dish). So if you went to any other food outlet within the complex for a pie or sausages or something, you couldnt have chips with it because maccy dees were the sponsors. I sent e mails to them saying they were banning people selling a product thet maccys themselves DIDNT sell. Fries and chips are not the same. I did not enter maccys for the whole time the games were on, and still will not eat thier fries. I wasnt even at the games, but i was livid that this was allowed to happen!

  • 138 Indian Magpie // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    OTG

    Rotonda Heights

  • 139 Rotonda heights // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    Pawl,

    I don’t particularly want ash gone but his never ending fatal flaw is the people he appoints, ie jobs for the boys and his pals, not the people we really need in key areas. After JFK, I can’t really see that ever changing.

  • 140 pawl250 // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    Markaccus, bottom line though people spout drivel.

    I made logical post granted in a novel format, which I am sorry but I am seriously in shock at the tripe some people write on this site.

    Its just sheep talk, form your own opinion overall. If people want to talk, read my post and talk.

    I welcome questions about my thoughts, and dont for one minute expect everyone should be a sheep and follow it. I voice it for nothing other than showing my opinion, do with it as you wish!

  • 141 jayjo // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    DARK DAYS ahead …… This could potentially be the end of us …. We WILL loose the crux of the team this year and nobody of any use will want to come

    And the worst thing of all OUR double manager of the year 2012 LETS NOT FORGET THAT is saying nothing

  • 142 jimmysmith // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    Any player brought in will be, has been, paid for from the clubs earnings, not Mikes pocket, isn’t that pretty much correct. He has had the money to speculate on players in the expectation of greater reward, but won’t. In truth I don’t see Ashley having speculated any of his own money on the playing side or otherwise for that matter.

  • 143 Jail for Ashley // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    Lilongwe,
    I know you claim not to like Ashley but when you state that he has spent 267M on the club “personally” you word it in such a way that he is some type of kindly benefactor, 130M is still owed which believe me will be paid back, then he will be left with a football club potentially worth 200M, take into account the success we have helped bring to SD and he could walk away with a handsome profit, which as his club he can do what he wants,but why should we have to suffer for his business success and his footballing failings.

  • 144 one Tony Green // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    Morning Indian

  • 145 wynsleap // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:54 AM

    Yes – the 400 at the meeting certainly DID speak for me.
    As I have said on another topic those fans that want to cling onto Ashley are like those poor abused children who still love their parents because they are frightened of the alternative.
    OK Ashley goes and we have a new owner that spends very little. No change there.
    We have a new owner that spends very little but treats the fans with respect. A significant improvement.
    We have a new owner that invests sensibly, makes decent appointments and runs the club with respect. Result!
    At least the opportunity for improvement is there. Without an ownership change we have NO future under Ashley and I can’t understand why ANY supporter is happy with that.
    However I can see the new announcement now for the club. “A spokesman has said that there is no truth in the story that Ashley is ready to sell the club and he remains committed to taking Newcastle United (his tacky sports brand) further.”

  • 146 sparky55 // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:54 AM

    well said Paw…the shame of it is though he doesn’t have the passion for the club like he does for SD and that’s loud and clear.

    we the fans made sure he’d never fall in love with the club and those that are starting another Ashley campaign and not going to help the matter.

    loads of fans on here complain he didn’t strengthen the club last summer…but if loved the club then he might have invested but because all he was interested in was keeping the club in the premiership then why should he bother.

    He only spent 18 million in january because he thought we might be going down…Ashley’s only desire for this club is to keep it in the premiership and on that basis he won’t be spending much this summer (nett) and he’ll never fall in love with the club especially when the fans are still calling for him to go.

    I think both sides should just keep their mouths shut and just let Ashley get on with it and see where it takes us til it’s sold

  • 147 one Tony Green // Jun 26, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    @ Jail What success have we brought Sports Direct. Please don’t tell me we have raised the profile. There are over 350 stores world wide. You are being too simplistic my friend.

  • 148 one Tony Green // Jun 26, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    @ Wynsleap why do you see the need to come and start your post off by insulting many people on here because the have a different opinion to you.

    Here is a new scenario for you which has actually happened at Cardiff.

    New owners come in the change the strip from black and white to red and white and change the badge.

    New owners come and leverage debt up against the club and then walk. Porstmouth/Hearts/Leeds.

    These are facts. I accept you have a different opinion and respect that but have the courtesy of reciprocating that respect please.

  • 149 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jun 26, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    one Tony green
    Can’t be sure if the Halls and Shepherds did get any money for the sale – wouldn’t surprise me in the least

  • 150 wynsleap // Jun 26, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    One Tony Green. – Apologise if I have offended you or any one else. I was just trying to illustrate how I saw some fans reaction on here to Ashley leaving.
    I can understand the fear of change in the light of Venkys and Cardiff’s owners but sometimes the nettle has to be grasped as blind persistence with the status quo, due to fear of the unknown, means progress can never be made.
    I still stand by my assertion, however, that I am unable to see how anyone with the best wishes of the club at heart can accept the Ashley regime in any shape or form.
    On a lighter not – like your username.
    I had the privilege of meeting the great Tony in person some years ago and told him that he was the best Toon player I’d ever seen in my lifetime of watching the club (going back to the days of Mitchell, Allchurch and Eastham). He thanked me for my compliment and said he’d been told that many times by Toon fans over the years. Oh how I wish we had him in the midfield now.




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