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Newcastle Fans Not Expecting A Great Season

9:32 am, Sunday, June 30th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 26 Comments

With the players arriving back for pre-season training this Thursday, we’ll take a look back at one of our summer polls, about where the fans expect Newcastle to finish in the league table next season.

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Fans expect top ten finish but not top six

We put this poll up on June 1st and 54% think Newcastle will finish from 6th to 10th – which is where most of the votes are.

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Of course I did screw this one up a bit (what again) and had an overlap in two of the categories – 6th to 10th and top six – I should have made the category 7th to 10th.

We suppose the good news is that only 5% think we’ll be relegated, but on the other hand only 10% think we’ll finish in the top six.

With clubs like the two Manchesters, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham and Liverpool, it’s kind of hard to break into the top six these days, but that’s exactly  what we did a season ago.

We just wish that Mike Ashley had a lot more ambition for Newcastle United.

I’ll put this poll up again on the home page – and there’s still time to vote – but it seems most fans would be happy enough with a top ten finish, and that we stay out of another relegation scrap.

The nerves cannot take another relegation scrap like last season – that’s for sure.

And in the comments, please refrain from any racial comments – and try to respect the views of other readers – they are only opinions after all – thanks.

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26 responses so far ↓

  • 1 JAMSHA // Jun 30, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    so do i

  • 2 blew // Jun 30, 2013 at 9:41 AM

    Same manager and coaches.
    Same again as last year.
    Some poor team selections and substitutions.
    How many injuries next season?
    Same coaches and fitness regime will not
    help.

  • 3 sparky55 // Jun 30, 2013 at 9:47 AM

    FFS ED…space out the blogs a bit more….we just get going and another topic pops up!!!

    How can we expect the fans to expect much for next year when the integral team that oversee the training and tactics and management of the players hasn’t changed except for JFK being brought in which can hardly be construed as an improvement.

    Repost

    A big part of the problem at the toon is Carr has found us some excellent talent, the club have gone after them and secured them, and then Pardew is setting up the team in such a way the obvious talent at his disposal is not being used to it’s full potential.

    As someone else has said previously stated, it’s like buying a ferarri and running it on chip fat and Carr is not happy at watching what pardew is doing to the players he’s scouted and brought in.

    Pardew just comes out and says some of the players Carr has recruited are just not good enough and he wants bigger stronger english players with premiership experience and that just about sums him up really…he wants to play they way he’s always played which is now tactically so far out of date it’s a clear indication of the negative mindset he has.

    If we are to make any progress whatsoever this year, we need to get rid of Pardew and bring in someone who can extract the full potential of the wonderful squad we’ve built up and hopefully use the bags of money we’ll get from selling players this year to extend the squad in such a way we just don’t have a good first 11 but a good first 14 which will make all the difference going forward.

    I see three purples going and six replacements coming in and in my book that’s a massive step in the right direction because what we’re doing right now ain’t working and we can achieve the above without Ashley having to spend much more than about 5 million.

  • 4 lesh // Jun 30, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    Ay Ed, you did screw this poll up a bit with the overlap.

    Stick to your day job as a doctor – numbers clearly aren’t your bag!!

  • 5 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 30, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    I don’t get this “ambition” malarkey…surely if MA authorises a huge spending spree and we qualify for the CL, we’ll be excluded on the basis of FFP?

    And the kind of players we would need to seriously challenge the top 4 this season would only come to us for one reason surely…money. If a top player has a chance to join a CL team or us, we need to either outbid on the transfer fee or pay higher wages. Do we really want to go back down that slippery road???

  • 6 Bambams // Jun 30, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    We have not brought anyone in yet and the window is almost open….. I think a lot of next season will depend on one HUGE decision. Play one or two strikers.

    If we play only one I think we will again sttuggle…..

    I basically believe we spent so much time defending against attacking teams than causing them problems with us attacking. Far too slow in reverting from defence to attack – almost ponderous !

    Pace = PEA

    cant see it though

    Imo

  • 7 John Tudor // Jun 30, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    ashley and pardew”we have enough in the locker for this season”

  • 8 TimKrulFan // Jun 30, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    As long as pardew is manager we will not get top half.

  • 9 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 30, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    Bambams

    I think we can play 1 striker no problem, but firsly we need to be able to rotate Cusse with someone better than Ameobi and secondly we need more attacking options right behind him. Ben Arfa and Goofy are good but if they’re not playing then we have Marveaux and then nobody. Those are the two areas I want us to focus on, that’s where I see we’re light.

  • 10 Krul Blow // Jun 30, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    Lesh – Ed isn’t a doctor. He worked in IT. Check out his bio.

  • 11 John Tudor // Jun 30, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    still no talk of a keeper

  • 12 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    I’m going to make a list of everyone who says that we won’t get top half this season, then when we do, I’ll name and shame them.

  • 13 Krul Blow // Jun 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    blew – same coaching staff and tactics as year before and we came 5th – remember?

    Too many short termers on here. Reaction should be steady and measured.

  • 14 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jun 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    The TOON will be the same – most likely to see the same football as last season boring drab – with a few, very few flashes of brillance

    Premiership will be the same
    except there is one club a season who over perform – us 2011-12
    under perform – us 2012-13

    But you can predict the – same top 6
    - same clubs in the middle
    - clubs at the bottom

    Why do fans bother going – don’t know
    Something keeps calling you back

    And I’ll be back next year -with all the emotions, frustrations, highs and lows

  • 15 toonarmydownsouth // Jun 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    TDS
    The FFP rules are ridiculous, it hasn’t stopped a single team in the PL spending except us, most importantly alot of our rivals in the table are spending
    There is no point panicking over FFP rules when the club are miles away from even trying to make us a top 10 team

  • 16 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 30, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    TADS

    Our rivals? You mean the top 6? As they’re the only ones spending big so far. They can actually afford to spend bigger than us because they have more money. Spurs’ revenue is about 50% bigger than ours so goes without saying that they can afford a bigger transfer budget.

    FFP takes several seasons into account and I believe it only allows a certain spend over a threshold based on revenue. I think at least one foreign team (Turkish?) has been excluded to far.

    When Shepherd splashed out on players, he was spending money that the club didn’t have, which put the club into debt. Do we want that too?

  • 17 Jail for Ashley // Jun 30, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    tads,
    From what I read from his posts TDsarf is more than happy for us to hover in mediocrity as he believes that’s all we’re good for.

  • 18 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 30, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    TADS

    And we are a top 10 team in quality! Why so negative! Chelsea finished below us the season before, as did Liverpool, but I’d still have referred to both as top teams.

  • 19 Jail for Ashley // Jun 30, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    TDsarf,
    Somebody pointed out that six years ago before Ashley took over our revenue was higher than Spurs, our growth has stagnated while SD has flourished under his stewardship here, is this a coincidence.

  • 20 wingspan // Jun 30, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    What people have got to remember is tho teams around us are strengthening they will need to do that to even come close to sticking with us next season.

    Villa, Sunderland, Norwich etc, apart from Benteke i cant think of a single player in there best starting 11 that would get into our starting 11.
    Some of them wouldnt even make the bench!!

    That being said them teams shouldnt be our marker anymore and its sad that we are worrying that they are strengthening, were better than that. 3 quality signings mplease Mr Ashley and lets make a run at the top 6 this season. I would really ike Siem de Jong to be one of them, class act.

  • 21 ToonDarnSarf // Jun 30, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    JfA

    You’re mad if you think that. I’m just trying to bring a bit of reality to the situation so I can actually enjoy following this club. Expecting us to target the top 4 this season will only lead to disappointment. I want top 8 minimum and hopefully we can threaten the top 6. We should have strengthened after 5th place, just like Spurs did, and we need to keep pushing so we can get a CL spot in the next few seasons.

    I refuse to be negative about my club just because it’s not in Europe and mega-spending clubs are instead.

  • 22 welshgeordie9 // Jun 30, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    I don’t think we will Finnish well in the league this season because instead of us signing three purple gems like we supposed to be doing we will probably end up with something totally opposite.

  • 23 welshgeordie9 // Jun 30, 2013 at 10:10 AM

    Who’s supposed to be our 3 purple gems anyway

  • 24 bills-son // Jun 30, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    Strange – only a three goal comeback by WBA in our crap managers first season stopped us finishing 10th (even tho he lost AC in January), he finished 5th in his first full season and then 16th last season when he was hammered by injuries which together with the Europa meant we never played the same side three games on the trot.

    But what do 90% of fans focus on about Pardew – last season.

    If I was Pardew and I’d asked for a couple of experienced Prem players to help us out of the relegation battle and I’d been given five french players in January I wouldn’t have been chuffed. And on top of the squad was so thin we had to play four of the new players almost from the start. Thats a third of the team, never played in the Prem, plunged straight into a relegation battle. Yeh, a real recipe for success that one.

    Imo the biggest problem we have is not Pardew but the fact that the squad is totally unbalanced. There iis only one player with genuine pace, Obertan, and he i sn’t getting a game. None of our first team defenders, midfielders or forwards have pace – no wonder we concede so many goals and struggle to score.

    The other glaring weakness in the squad is a lack of powerful players and leaders. Our only really strong physical player, Tiote, constantly gets booked and suspended and when he’s out we have zero physical presence in the team – in defence, midfield and attack.

    Leaders? There isn’t one fist shaking, shouting, bullying leader on the pitch in the Nolan, Barton or Smithy mode.

    Carr might have got us some very good technical players but we desperately need a dose pace, power and leaders in the squad. If Kinnear recognises and sorts that out we will have a far better squad and a far better season.

  • 25 lesh // Jun 30, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    Krul Blow @10.

    Yup… a tongue in cheek comment it was.

  • 26 toonluvva // Jun 30, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    The transfer window opens officially at midnight.

    Lets just see who comes, and more importantly who goes.

    If, and it’s a big if, we manage to sign any players it’ll be interesting to see whose choices they are.

    Should it emerge that Carr and Pardew have been ignored by JoKe then expect a real falling out by Christmas.

    Interesting question, if JoKe signs a player that Pardew does not rate, will he select him for the side?

    As I understand it, JoKe as DoF has no input into team selection or tactics. That remains the responsibility of the manager.

    Can you imagine JoKe bringing a high wage player at a massive fee just for Pardew to start him from the bench. I’ll bet Ashley will be furious, just enough to sack Pardew perhaps.




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