We’ll Soon Know What Pardew Thinks Of Kinnear Appointment


Alan Pardew has been extremely quiet this summer, and it seems he’s usually back in Newcastle before now, to prepare for pre-season training, and we wonder why he’s been so quiet this summer.

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Joe Kinnear – now exactly a unifying force

Of course it’s very important for players and coaches to get away from it all during the summer, and most of them take off on holiday a couple of days after the last league game of the season, because once they come back, it’s a long and hard grind through May next year – especially for managers.

Pardew was told at his meeting with Mike Ashley a few days after the season ended in May, that the owner was thinking of bringing in a new Director of Football, but at that time Joe Kinnear’s name was not mentioned.

So to have a character like Kinnear, who is hardly a unifying force, move into the club, and then have to report to him, after having a good relationship with Derek LLambias, could be hard to take for Alan Pardew.

And it was completely obvious that Kinnear’s appointment took Alan and others at the club completely by surprise (thanks Mike), and of course Derek LLambias resigned in protest a day after Joe’s formal announcement.

Joe did that stupid interview for talkSPORT before the official announcement, and since then has tried to blame talkSPORT for not asking him about the old times with Bobby Gould – but did Joe really believe that’s why he had been invited onto talkSPORT?

The interview rightly enraged Newcastle fans, as Joe simply showed himself up – but since he was now representing Newcastle, he showed to club up too.

So it was probably best that Alan Pardew kept a low profile, once Kinnear was announced and Alan said only a few words – that he was going toi take Newcastle back up the league table.

We should all know more once Pardew lands on Tyneside – probably tomorrow – and listen to what he has to say about things this week.

Alan’s never talked about Joe Kinnear – but for the good of our club we hope there’s harmony between Kinnear, Pardew and Graham Carr – the transfer threesome.

We cannot afford to have another blow-up between manager and Director of Football – which happened five years ago between Kevin Keegan and Dennis Wise, and ended up in the club being relegated for the first time from the Premier League.

We think Joe Kinnear’s appointment is almost the worst possible – but that’s the way it is – and we’ll just have to hope that Joe can do some good for the club.

After all, that’s what his job is.

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51 comments so far

  • wingspan

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    Comment #1

    What people have got to remember is tho teams around us are strengthening they will need to do that to even come close to sticking with us next season.

    Villa, Sunderland, Norwich etc, apart from Benteke i cant think of a single player in there best starting 11 that would get into our starting 11.
    Some of them wouldnt even make the bench!!

    That being said them teams shouldnt be our marker anymore and its sad that we are worrying that they are strengthening, were better than that. 3 quality signings mplease Mr Ashley and lets make a run at the top 6 this season. I would really ike Siem de Jong to be one of them, class act.

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  • John Tudor

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #2

    no confidence

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  • toon22

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #3

    Its the smartest thing AP has done since he joined the club.He shouldnt ever give an interview about JK.Its his job to talk about the team and he should stick to it,the media isnt going to like it but thats not his problem.For once we need to not let the media twist the club into yet another story by leading our staff into saying what they want them too.
    As for players coming in so long as we get at least 1 striker and a left winger we will be ok.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #4

    TDS
    The top 6 are the only ones spending??
    I’m sorry you seem to be confusing the issue of strengthening and spending mega bucks, your the only person to mention mega bucks
    Sunderland, Norwich, West Ham, Swansea, Aston Villa, Liverpool all strengthening before the window opens, all realistic rivals
    This is why we COULD struggle to hit top 10 if once again we stand still in a window

    None of these clubs are naive enough to think they can just keep ticking over and are prepared to spend if needed rather than wait and wait then panic buy like a housewife in tesco during a storm warning

    No one is calling for signings like messi or ronaldo but to strengthen adequately and early as not to make the same balls up as last season, something the club Apparantly also wanted to avoid but some how seem to be doing a spectacular job of trying to outdo the balls up of last season

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  • John Tudor

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #5

    to be injured badly long term

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  • John Tudor

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #6

    better contingency plans required hey it is nufc

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #7

    JfA

    I haven’t seen the facts but I could believe that. Spurs have since had consistent high finishes and it’s allowed them to grow as a business. We had a disjointed squad with loads of debt that caused us to get relegated and then have to rebuild.

    Look at the clubs that have grown organically. Utd, Spurs and Arsenal had a model and it took time.

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  • John Tudor

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #8

    and another keeper

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  • John Tudor

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #9

    or we play with a rush goalie

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #10

    TADS

    I’m including Liverpool in that top 6. As for the others, with our January signings getting a pre-season under their belt, I believe we have a better squad than that lot already. I’d rather have a couple of top signings to strengthen rather than several.

    And as I’ve pointed out before, many of those clubs lined up their transfers months ago. There are two reasons we haven’t:
    1 – we brought forward at least 3 transfers to January
    2 – we didn’t know what league we would be in until fairly recently

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  • John Tudor

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #11

    krul fails to make start elliot long term injury first game krul rushed back breaks down (we are in the deep doodoo

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  • wingspan

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #12

    I agree, Top striker to help out Pappis and a top winger to go straight into the starting 11 and we will be fine. PEA (im gonna jump on the bandwagon here never seen him play but if dortmund want him he must be good) and De jong get my votes, both can play different roles too.

    Apart from that i think our current squad is capable of top 10 easy, If we can upgrade some of our squad players ie obertan and gosling then that would be great too but i dont expect that to happen to be honest.

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  • colwell

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #13

    I.d take Ricky van Wolfswinkel from Norwich, and Redmond when he goes there or Swansea.

    Our team is good when they are all fit but No where near as good as some people think. Cabaye turns up every now and then Tiote becomes the oppositions best player, Santon plays everyone onside all the time, HBA is either Messi or like Tiote becomes the oppositions best player.

    Your only as good as your last game/season and that wasn’t very good was it. With MA ruling the Roost we have been in the top 6 once, and the rest have been in the bottom half. That too me suggest a fluke season.

    Possibly a restructure of the club will work but we all know the wrong guys are in charge aswell.

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  • bills-son

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #14

    Ed – as others have pointed out sticking up multiple new posts one after the other isn’t helping discussion on the blog.

    Its a real pain in the ars writing a reply only to find when you post it that you have stuck another post in the meantime. Can you not give a least a couple of hours between posts unless some big news comes out?

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #15

    Imagine M’Biwa and Zouma and then the nightmare reality of Saylor and Tomkins!!

    Online guy,

    Re-our coaches. if they are so great why do we never see any 1-2’s, triangles, overlapping, players going beyond the man with the ball and general ”pass and move” football.

    Why do we only see hoof ball and the most static team you’ll ever see?

    Soundoid

    It doesn’t seem to affect other teams having 2 matches a week. I suspect our fitness levels are awful and its not just about the standard of the players. How many games has Oscar played this season?

    Wouldn’t it make more sense for Pardew to learn some French, but then again the less the players listen to him and his dinosaur tactics the better.

    Any more on this twitter takeover talk? Amazing if Elmanio really had got it right.

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  • wingspan

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #16

    Also i would love Shane Long too, cracking little player and gives his all every game we missed out there when he went to west brom for just 5mil

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  • John Tudor

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #17

    i thought pardew spoke in chinese to the players

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  • dantoon85

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #18

    I hope this takeover is true. Please let it be true bring Keegan back and with the squad we have we can once again become the entertainers on the pitch not in the tabloids

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  • Krul Blow

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #19

    Colwell – How are we going to take RVW from Norwich!? They’ve only just signed him!

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  • wingspan

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #20

    Sorry to go off topic but one other gripe i have from reading this blog is every has MYM in there preferred starting 11 over Saylor. Why? Ok hes looked good in parts but hes also not looked that great in parts, gave the ball away a fair bit last season.

    Saylor gets the nod for me all day. Solid player, plays with pride, got the club at heart, lots of prem experience, forms a good partnership with Colo and the kid is literally willing to take a shot to the knackers for the team.

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  • John Tudor

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #21

    takeover more like a takeaway

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  • bills-son

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #22

    Rotunda – the reason why we are static is simple – there is a total lack of genuine pace right throughout the team.

    You can’t coach pace into a player.

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  • dantoon85

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #23

    At this rate we will prob end up signing Alan smith lee bowyer and Kieron dyer

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  • Krul Blow

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #24

    wingspan – i like MYM but have to agree with you. Saylor has the fight in him and the pride that is sadly lacking in most of our recent transfers. They have more skill than Saylor but lack the pride.

    If we could just find the perfect combo of both…

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  • Krul Blow

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #25

    Like Andy Carroll…?

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  • bills-son

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #26

    On pace – Obertan in his few games last season especially in the Europa totally changed our normal style of play by running behind defenders and creating space. If he could only cross a ball or pick a pass he’d be worth £10M.

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  • colwell

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #27

    Krul Blow

    That was a response to the first post saying none of the other teams around us have bought players to get in our team.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #28

    TDS
    You think villa and Sunderland knew what league they would be in?

    There is no excuse at all for not having targets lined up, that is absolute BS!
    And you may well count Liverpool as top 6 but if you have us top 8 that still makes them a rival

    As for the quality of some of the signings, does it matter how they stack up to our players? I don’t believe that was the point at all, it’s that all these clubs have identified there weaknesses, they our strengthening, and are doing it efficiently

    We are an absolute circus, so what we bought a couple of lads who would of been freebies in the summer forward to jan, guess what they should of been signed the summer before, that’s not planning that’s penny pinching and blagging ffs!

    We desperately need players, we have one experienced RB, for the season, we have no width, one CF and a CF who’s used as winger and no creativity in midfield and we have made zero strides in the market, whilst appointing a stand up act/ Apparent DOF with verbal diarrhoea and a last minute pre season tour, I’m sure Gateshead will really gel the team!

    Yeah not holding my breath for a great summer or season

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  • HullMag6

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #29

    How about this – wouldn’t it be good if the shopping is done and were just waiting for the window.So called target meetings are actually meetings to check all signings are still ok and reinforcing the need for secrecy until July 1st.I can dream……

    Sorry to repost but between work and Ed I got left two articles back.

    I think Pards might be ok with it all if he gets the right players for the right tactics. .

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  • colwell

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #30

    MYM looked awesome when he played at LB got forward well also. Out of MYM,Santon and Haidara he is the best at defending and after conceding near on the most goals in the prem last year maybe he should stick there.

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  • wingspan

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #31

    Krul – Pride and the will to grind it out goes a long way in this league and you are correct we need more of it.

    Watching the capitulation against liverpool last season was embarrasing and i found myself thinkin even tho weve upgraded to players with greater technical abilities i was wishing we had a Nolan or a barton on the pitch to dish out some rollickings

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  • bills-son

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #32

    On pace – the way Routledge played last season effectively swopping him for Obertan was a big mistake.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #33

    Wingspan
    Of course he didn’t look great he was thrown into a rag tag CB pairing with no time to gel and expected to what lead our defence?

    Taylor is the biggest liability in the club, he’s slow both in pace and reaction, he’s out of shape, his so called passion is nothing more than hot headed stupidity which has landed us in the sh1t time and time again, as for his partnership with colo there the worst paired at the club, Christ willo and colo were a more solid pairing than Taylor and colo

    Why would anyone plan a season with an overweight injury prone average CB as there main stay in defence???

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #34

    TADS

    No creativity in midfield? What about Cabaye and Ben Arfa? They had poor seasons last time with injuries and form, but the season before they were very good.

    Our wage bill is also at the high end now, you can’t discount that cost.

    I don’t think we need the number of signings that Villa or Dunderland are making. And it wouldn’t surprise me if many of those signings were lines up from January.

    We just need a couple of quality forward signings, replace any purples that leave with the equivalent and replace some fringe players with more promising players. I’d rather we take our time than rush for the wrong target.

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  • SeanNufc87

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #35

    Morning lads, any news so far? Windows tomorrow, anyone excited or everyone pessimistic? Maybe reserving judgement?

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  • John Tudor

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #36

    bill-son the guys in charge didnt think it was wrong

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  • bzak12

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #37

    I see in press WBA are after taking Demba Ba on a season long lone. Why cant we try for him?

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  • terencelim

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #38

    @ToonDarnSarf, keep licking Ashley’s axx as you like but learn the fact that we got relegated not because of debt.

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  • HullMag6

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #39

    Oh ps

    Our football on this country is suffering from almost a culture/grass roots problem.

    Not enough enthusiasm drive and dedication.

    Most just want an easy life and paaaartayy you know what I mean innit.

    That’s why youngsters seem to be shocking, they lack application, its a generalisation I bet there are a few good ones out there.

    Uncompetitive school sports days dont help.

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  • wingspan

    Jun 30, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #40

    MYM i agree he was thrown in at the deep end so i cant be too critical of him and he got better the more games he had for sure. But I just like the idea of having an honest center back thats willing to put his body on the line for the club in my starting 11, his injury record is a concern for sure but average center back is really harsh.

    And MYM has openly come out and said he wants to play for Man u so we are a stepping stone for him, thats fine but he isnt gonna be as committed as Saylor is he, no way.

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