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This Is Why Mike Ashley Is Going Nowhere

10:27 am, Tuesday, July 2nd, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 239 Comments

There is a decent piece in the Newcastle Journal today, an interview with Newcastle fan David Wilkinson, who just happens to be a partner at Deloitte’s Newcastle office.

mike ashley smiling

Mike Ashley – would want to at least get his money back

David talks about what Newcastle United may be worth, and that football is not a normal business – you can say that again.

There are various ways to work out how much a business is worth, and usually it’s a multiple of earnings, but it’s very difficult to work out how much Newcastle is worth.

And even other companies, like Internet companies as a good example, are often sold for billions of pounds and yet they don’t have any earnings, and as one example Amazon,.com was valued at billions of pounds before they made their first profits.

Mike Ashley paid out about £134M for Newcastle in the summer of 2007, when he took Newcastle private, and since that time Mike has put another maybe £130M into the club, in the form of interest fee loans.

So being the businessman he is, Mike would need to recuperate at least the £264M he has already invested into the club – but there will not be many buyers at that price, and that’s a fact.

And we have seen that twice in the past, when Ashley tried to sell Newcastle.

First in September of 2008 after the Keegan – Wise earthquake, and we remember when Joe Kinnear came in as a caretaker manager in September, 2008 until Newcastle were sold, he said Newcastle would be sold the next week a number of times, but Newcastle were never sold.

And at the time Mike said he would sell, but that it was dependent on getting a decent offer for the club.

And then the next year after we were relegated, Ashley tried to unload the club, when the low £100M offering price wasn’t met by anybody.

And in April of this year, Newcastle were valued at around £174M by Deloitte, and we were the 20th most valuable football club in the world.

It will take around £264M to buy Newcastle, and we just cannot see any buyer coming in for Newcastle at that price.

Maybe the best chance we have of having Newcastle sold, is to have Newcastle become more successful – like win something for the first time since 1969.

But with Mike at the head of the club, and seemingly showing little real ambition – that will not be happening anytime soon.

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239 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Ben3arfa // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    FML

  • 2 Ketsbaia9 // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    Swansea are showing some ambition. If they sign Gomis, Bony, Chadli and Shelvey, they’ll be a force next season. We need to snap some players up asap otherwise it’ll be another poor season. Spurs have signed Paulinho. We need strikers and flair midfielders.

  • 3 tequilamag // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    Kets If only someone would draw up a list of players we need to buy.

  • 4 Puppet Pardew's Brainlessness // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    @tequila hahahaaaa

  • 5 Roy Morten // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    “I have received a message regarding #NUFC ownership, I’ve decided to post the mail. Coming up shortly #rumours

    A good friend of mine just sent me this on email.. Will ask him were he found it..

  • 6 TorqToon // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    Indykalia mate. Twitter resident ITK.

  • 7 the truth will out // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    ashleys dug a big hole and keeps digging

  • 8 Ketsbaia9 // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    It’s like one step forward and 2 steps backwards. We showed ambition in January, but we still need 6/7 first team players to compete with Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City and Spurs.

  • 9 TorqToon // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    So Chris Samba back at anzhi for 12mil!!

    That bloke is seemingly on elastic!!

  • 10 the truth will out // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    we need 6/7 to compete with palace sland etc

  • 11 proudtobageordie // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    indykaila news
    I am trying to confirm with my sources if this email has any legs on it. Very exciting info if details are correct. Info coming up. #NUFC
    Details

  • 12 brighter // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Mike Ashley is SELFISH.
    You are loser who did intend to get huge money in football world.

  • 13 jazzyp // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    kets
    we’ll need that to stay in the top 10 the way Swansea and villa are signing players never mind the top 4

  • 14 LooneyToon41 // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    Samba… nice signing on fees too! Unbelievable stuff!

    Kets, your right of course. We just need Bale, Neymar,Ronaldo,Messi for starters…………!?

  • 15 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    It’s being reported that Kinnear went above Pardew in getting rid of Perch then surely Pardew’s days must be numbered. mmmm

  • 16 jayphoto // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Did i just see someone say we need 6/7 to compete with palace??!! Palace will be rock bottom all season, pretty sure theyre just happy to get the tv money and parachute payments! Understand theyre not looking to significantly add to their squad and want to keep giving their young players a chance! Holloway is also tactically very niaive and just attacks and attacks, good to watch but it got blackpool relegated and my bet is palace will be lucky to top Derbys 12 point tally! To say we need to sign players to match them is crazy! Our reserves would be their top players in some cases

  • 17 proudtobageordie // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Jayphoto

    Nad that season in question 4 of those points were taking of us if im correct so Palace have hope

  • 18 wolfshead@toon // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    @15

    its prob true joe is here to make pards pull his finger out if not then undermine him so much he will want to quit?

  • 19 the truth will out // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    there manager could run our reserves better than our manager and i doubt they will be bottom all season .nothing in football is guarenteed

  • 20 jazzyp // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    jayphoto
    I can only find Chelsea Swansea arsenal spurs villa man city mentioned buddy

  • 21 one Tony Green // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    ED stop pushing some many articles out. This one shows your struggling for things to write about. Be nice to come and the site and have a discussion without the bile seen recently.

    That said it is your blog so you can do what you want. ( just a suggestion )

  • 22 anirudh175 // Jul 2, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    We need to buy:
    1)PEA
    2)Zarate
    3)Javier Pastore
    4)Ever Banega
    5)Fernando Gago
    6)Lennon(winger)
    7)a good solid CB (preferably goal scoring- 6-7 a season)

    and we’ll be good to win the Premier League and also qualify for the Champion’s League

    Howay the Lads!!!!

  • 23 the truth will out // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    jay look into your crystal ball again and be honest then look at the video of the entertainers please

  • 24 the truth will out // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    pretty sure theyre just happy to get the tv money and parachute payments! is this ashleys intent also

  • 25 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    I just want this whole PEA thing to be over if he’s coming I’ll be over the moon if he’s not we can get the disappoint over with.

  • 26 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    BandB
    Very true he did drop back down the pecking order, I’d assumed it was purely pardew relying on seasoned pros due to our league position, not that it worked to well!

    I’d, like you, would like to believe there was some sensible reasoning behind JFK, but I genuinely just can’t see any!
    I mean you’d think he’d at least interview other people for the position
    It’s just baffling

  • 27 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    Jayphoto
    Don’t think palace will stay up but come off it our reserves wouldn’t get close to there team and they have some very decent players in speroni parr williams bolasie Murray even ramage has refound form there

  • 28 jayphoto // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    Was at #10 – we need 6/7 to compete with palace, s’land etc
    Personally think with our without new players wel be looking at a season of 9th-12th. People underestimate how good our players are and how important a preseason will be to the players we signed in jan. with better tactics etc i would hope for top 6 but can’t see it with the unrest we seem to have

  • 29 kt97toonarmy // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    Anirudh

    Theres no chance of signing at least 5 of them cause ashley will not spend much we mite get PEA nd maybe 2 more but thats it. But also we are having a clearout selling perch who i think he is a good utility player and hes english which we apparantly need 8 of them soooo……..why sell him?

  • 30 gfp13 // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    @22

    You really think we can get those players? Lennon woul leave spurs for us? And pastore who I assume is on mega bucks at PSG would leave for us too?, not too sure where gago is playing these days, I think you need to assess your opinion of how big our club is, or isn’t is the case. We need more realistic targets, no point in chasing players who (A) are going to cost too much and (B) won’t wanna come anyway

  • 31 anirudh175 // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    hey guys what do you think about buying the players I just mentioned???

    1)PEA
    2)Zarate
    3)Javier Pastore
    4)Ever Banega
    5) Fernando Gago
    6)Aaron Lennon
    5)a good solid CB

    What say???

    Should be fantastic team there!!!

  • 32 the truth will out // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    i dont underestimate them i just dont rate management coaching of them .

  • 33 kt97toonarmy // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    Anirudh

    I dont think u have read what myself nd gfp said

  • 34 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    Latest news on the TOON’s website is that Cabaye is looking forward to the coming season and we will be better prepared with new faces that came in in january – does that mean he is staying unless pushed

  • 35 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    So why is it MA is going nowhere again?

    …I think I missed that in the article :)

  • 36 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    Don’t normally take Indy kalia to seriously but could this tie in with Ashley’s random statement a week ago saying although he’s not actively trying to sell the club he would consider it if someone met his valuation?

  • 37 kt97toonarmy // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Charlie u got the link to back this up m8

  • 38 ToonMauritius // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    hi lads
    Dutch Football ?@football_oranje 1h
    Toby Alderweireld has left Ajax’s training camp in Austria due to personal reasons the club have confir

  • 39 Rotonda heights // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    JFK won nowt at Wimbledon, got sacked at Forest with them in a relegation place, got Luton relegated before bringing them back up in 2nd place and apparently spent 2 years at Newcastle when he was here for 9 months. An experienced manager who has won absolutely f..k all in his managerial career.

    Sounds like an older version of Pardew.

  • 40 jazzyp // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    I see spurs are letting adebayour go for around 5 mill.
    would this be an upgrade on the likes of bent if we are truthfully interested in this player !!!

  • 41 BandB // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    TADS

    I am rarely expressing an opinion when I post. I paw over the entrails of these things with my kids when they are up, trying to divine possible explanations for things that might be happening. I don’t have access to the people I used to, and even they were usually just speculating. Do I think we are the most perfectly run club in all possible perfect worlds?
    No.
    Sometimes the entrails point in a certain direction, as they did from the beginning of last season. Usually, if something walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s a duck. Ashley, after all these years, still has the same trusted inner circle. And he picked from it.

  • 42 Average_Contents // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    Morning guys!

    What the guy said who had been following sissoko’s fake account after torqtoon informed him it was fake was just hilarious I’m sorry but it made me wet myself ( and yes I’m now wearing nappies or the like) thanks mate i’ve been following it for 6 months lol so funny! But in all seriousness what are the chances of us pulling this pea deal off aye? I would say slim to none with the latter being the likely probability but you never know! I might set up a joke in ear twatter account up once I look into it, never used,seen or been on the twatter site so wish me luck

  • 43 anirudh175 // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    I agree..but even if we can get lets say2-3 of those players..I think we should be good to go..Sell out all the fringe players like Gosling, Ameobi, Obertan, and so on..

    Get some of the money from the sell out and add some of Ashley’s money to buy these players..

    Thats the only way I see Newcastle back to its glorious past!!! How I would love to see our club back in the top 4s

    Get 2-3 really quality players fronm that list…

    may be PEA or Zarate…Pastore I agree would cost a fortune..

    But Zarate, Gago. Banega are all flair players and we need such players badly..especially after our dismal performance last season…

  • 44 SuperShearer // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    @anirudh175 what do I think of that list? Very nice…but more importantly I’d like some of whatever you’re smoking please. Why not add Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar and Kompany to that list….then we’d be really rocking. #Delusional

  • 45 jayphoto // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    Personal opinion, but i think palace would take any of Williamson, Anita, Gosling, bigirimana, haidara, a fit ryan taylor, obertan! All of which are very unlikely to be in our first team next year! They have some good players , i like bolasie, but so much of their play came through Zaha, many teams double teamed on him which made space for other players and now they have no zaha! Over the course of the season last year they werent in 3rd or 4th best in that division and in 2013 their form was awful, really lucky to scrape the playoffs, really wasnt impressed with them when i saw them!
    Cardiff on the other hand can become a massive club now they are in the premier league! Have 4 times the following that swansea have and could really become a top team with the money on offer

  • 46 kt97toonarmy // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Jazzyp

    Theres a big problem with adebayor a lot of games for tottenham he looked so uninterested and didnt want to b there i dont want that kind of st for us

  • 47 rainrix // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    jazzy… Adebayors probably better than bent, but he is also one of the most horrifically inconsistent players alive. Probably not worth it tbh.

  • 48 kt97toonarmy // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Pastore i would get if we sold cabaye either pastore or vidal from juve

  • 49 TorqToon // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Average – Don’t write our chances off just yet mate! Football is a strange old world.

    I still wait in hope…! Think if Dortmund or anybody else wanted him, he’d has signed by now. They would’ve informed the press already as they rarely try to keep things a secret.

    Wishful thinking??? Maybe….!! :-)

  • 50 Average_Contents // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    Have people seen the coverage jfk’s new interview has generated already its fkin everywhere! He needs to keep his big gob shut and stop embarrassing the club and us loyal supporters and last but least him! A stumbling, dribbling poor excuse of a human being disaster zone, a nuclear bomb has gone off in the toon and joe in ear is the epicentre!

  • 51 BandB // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Ashley has an alternative football model taking shape at Rangers. It doesn’t need him to have any football nous. Two years from now they will likely be starting a Scottish Premiership campaign, with an easier route to Europe than us, which won’t involve a step change in his investment.
    Again, it is just a possibility. But maybe that’s the timescale he’s working to.

  • 52 TorqToon // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    indy kaila
    9 minutes ago
    NUFC investment mail.

    Please take this email with a pinch of salt as the mail could be planted by media/followers etc. See rumour below
    ….?……….?……….?……….?……….?……….?………
    ?Spoke to the security guards at SJP this evening, and 2 of them were told that Mike Ashleys people have apparently been in dicussion with a group from the middle east who are interested in NUFC. Can you find out if there is any substance in this claim?

  • 53 proudtobageordie // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    http://t.co/yzHvxC9oPb

    What a load of bull lol

  • 54 kt97toonarmy // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    Hope he sells us and buy rangers let them idiots put up with his ways

  • 55 tequilamag // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    Tads, don`t see in legs in indybs story, and MA never really made any statement. Does he ever make any statements? The usual sources close to MA was the nub of he might sell. This is usually code for we have newspapers to sell so let`s make some sh1t up.

  • 56 TorqToon // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    This is indykalia’s big exciting news!!!!!

    Wow….!! What rubbish!

  • 57 proudtobageordie // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Torq

    Security guard’s of all people as if lol

  • 58 kt97toonarmy // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Torqtoon dont believe everything you hear despite it being very easy to believe it because of all of us wanting that fat tw*t out

  • 59 the truth will out // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    they were there but only interested in having concession rights for sheeps eyes stalls

  • 60 tequilamag // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Torq, hilarious so some unnamed person spoke to a security gaurd who was told by somebody else. Well it must be true.
    Near as dammit from the horses mouth.

  • 61 TorqToon // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Kt97 – I dont believe a word of it. As I wrote in my follow up post.

    Indy is just as bad as Colin!

  • 62 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    I can’t believe people actually fall for indykaila’s bullshit especially those emails they’re embarrassing.

  • 63 DevonToon // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    PEA at Barcelona airport flying to an unknown destination… According to the man himself. Well its been confirmed that Anzhi and Dortmund have bid, and he wants Dortmund over Anzhi, and his future sorted ASAP. I think we should all stop getting exited cos this chap was never going to come here. I think Palace will be cannon fodder, but they aint just wanting the cash… They spunked 8million on the dwight gayle!

  • 64 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    kt97toonarmy

    http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20130702/cabayes-looking-ahead_2281670_3226078

  • 65 jayphoto // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    Thing with Rangers, is that if a European super league ever happened , and many people think its inevitable in the future, they ‘d have more chance of being included than ourselves , being involved in that Group of europes top clubs (G something?) and the money would be massive! Makes sense for Ashley to invest in them as small investment now could be massive pay offs in future! Not to mention the Rangers shirt and merchandise is one of the most sold shirts in world football!

  • 66 the truth will out // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    more credibility that the anunnaki have inquired to the possibility of buy out

  • 67 anirudh175 // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    We could also do with a certain Juan Roman Riquelme..but considering his age factor..dont think he is in our scheme of things..

    But still think he could do wonders at St James’ park for 2 years..

    We desparately lack creativity in the midfield something Riquelme can provide

  • 68 tequilamag // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Jay, if there were to be a Euro SL I doubt whether they would have 2 teams from Scotland. Celtic would be the obvious choice for an invite,

  • 69 pawl250 // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    Doubt he will be coming to us, think everyone’s getting hopes up too much these days.

    I cannot understand why we aren’t in for Adebayor …. On his day he is a beast and 5m is a bargain!

    Ok 100k wages, but we could try 80-90k and Spurs could maybe just pay something to him I.e man city like to get him to leave.

    He’s a very good player technically. You just need to play him week in week out or he loses interest’

  • 70 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Ffs Indy you tw@muffin

  • 71 jayphoto // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Thing with Indy Kaila, he used to post a lot less , every few days or so but when he did it was usually bang on! Think he does have some contacts with some particular clubs, tends to be on the money with Man City news before anyone else gets on them! Think recently he posts any crap he hears to build a follower base and now uses rumours from any source no matter how reliable! Fully believe he has zero contacts with Newcastle tho! For one, hes midlands based, lives a few miles from myself actually and down here newcastle is a world away unless they are in talks with the midlands clubs! You never see the shirts really or hear the club mentioned! I tend to only get to hear and chat about toon stuff when working in France or holland where we as a club are of massive interest!

  • 72 Tommyy // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    I see Sky have jumped on Kinnear latest drivel, and are loving it. Wish the man would just piss off. How can he honestly believe he was here for 2 years? He should have had his contract amended, as it was still within a cooling period of two weeks, that he can’t talk to the media. The way this club operates is beyond amateur. Jesus I’m 21 and I could do a far more professional job than the lot of them!

  • 73 rainrix // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    Indy obviously graduated from the joe kinnear academy of BS.

  • 74 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    Riquelme, Adebayor
    Have I wandered into a has bin’s support group?

    Adebayor wouldn’t even consider the room he rates himself to highly and is the ultimate mercenary

  • 75 Tommyy // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    The truth will out – Haha now that would be something! At least we’d see immensely physically superior players!

  • 76 the truth will out // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    no conspiracy theory then …….why all this crap spouted by ashleys bum chum being allowed

  • 77 the truth will out // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    would have said takeover but that would cause panic on the streets

  • 78 geordiesteve520 // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    @anirudh175 are you Kets in disguise? FFS Riquelme?!

  • 79 the truth will out // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    you know how rumours start

  • 80 geordiesteve520 // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8802002/Premier-League-Newcastle-s-Joe-Kinnear-head-and-shoulders-above-peers

    Bloody hell Joe, just shut up you imbecile!

  • 81 the truth will out // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    best get pele and Eusébio in pronto

  • 82 Greebol1892 // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM

    we need to sign:

    - Alderweireld
    - Douglas
    - Belhanda
    - Samba
    - van Buyten
    - van Hooijdonk
    - van driver
    - My neighbours cat
    - PEA
    - CHiPS
    - BEANS

  • 83 the truth will out // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    we need to sign a sectioning order for kinnear

  • 84 jazzyp // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    tads
    I see you would put adebayour in the same category as a certain p kluivert we signed up many years ago who was another ego maniac

  • 85 jazzyp // Jul 2, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    greebol
    whats the cat’s valuation at and is he a cf.if so sign the cat up.still an upgrade on ameobi

  • 86 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    “Any ghost-writers please get in touch via indykaila.com/contact-me/, Yes I’m writing a book.”

    Yes that’s correct Indykaila is writing a book, should be awesome up there with Anne Frank

  • 87 the truth will out // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    toilet read ammo

  • 88 LooneyToon41 // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    @42. Average Contents! You’re welcome, 100% true too, i have been following that Sissoko twitter account for 6 months!! ;-)
    @82. Greebol1892. Lmfao! PEA, Chips and Beans.. quality !

    Adebayor…. no! Just like Bent, he believes he’s god, and deserves to be paid the same as Messi. Just No!!!

  • 89 pawl250 // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    If it were me personally I would have got/get

    Belhanda – 7m
    Douglas – FREE
    Bony – 11m

    That’s 18m, about the same quote price as PEA!

    And you get 3 players arguably just as good! Belhanda plays in the centre and wide and very creative.

    Bony is a beast. Strong type that can hold play well.

    Douglas is a decent centre back, nothing more! What do u expect for free!

    I am utter shock that people are wanting 20m to go on 1 player who may or may not be worthy!

    Not to mention believe we want 1 player for 20m!

  • 90 Miguel // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    PEA to dortmund

  • 91 LooneyToon41 // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    SkySports reporting Dortmund have agreed fee with Saint Etienne… PEA.

  • 92 pawl250 // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    Adebayor is a quality player on his day and just turned 29!

    Other than last season at Spurs, every other team he has played for he has pretty much scored 1 goal in 2 games!

    That’s a decent player for 5m!

    Yet people want Bent? Lol

    Arsenal 104 apps to 46 goals
    City 34 apps 15 goals
    Madrid 14 apps 5 goals
    Spurs 33 apps 17 goals

    Last season Spurs 24 apps to 5 goals but he looked peeved he was 2nd choice!

    Difference to Darren Bent who has a similar record is Adbeayor offers 10x to the team and not just a ghost until the opponents box!

    He also has not lost his place or injury prone!

    For 5m he is even cheaper than Bent! He is also a mold of player we need I.e Carroll like but with more pace and better technically!

    He’s an upgrade to Ameobi by far! Bent is a downgrade to Cisse!

    Yet majority fans want Bent lol shows what our fans actually know! Its the KK and Shearer appointments again! Farce!

  • 93 LooneyToon41 // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    @89.Pawl. I think Titus is available on a free too…..

    Douglas just isn’t any good imo, so what’s the point?
    Belhanda’s gone to Kiev..
    Bony… ok, i’ll give you that one.

  • 94 Ben3arfa // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    Who actually believed this retarded dinosaur imbecile would land us PEA?

    Hes just worried at facing off with the media and bragging about the most retarded things.

    F*ck you Joe Kinnear , you dirty piece of scum .

    Get out of OUR club you and your drinking buddy Ashley

  • 95 LooneyToon41 // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    @92 Pawl. “Shows what our fans actually know”…

    Maybe you’re right, but Adebayor has shown his colours once the ink was signed on his contracts… just ask any City or Spurs fan.
    BUT, Bent’s even more of a mercenary, NO Thankyou!

  • 96 pawl250 // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    WOW shocker! Now waiting for the inevitable “what are we doing” “we are so tight not to offer an extra x million” “omg Ashely out”

    All because you build up hopes for soemthing that will have never happened!

    20m on 1 player! That’s all you needed to read before realising the insanity in the sentence!

    LOL typical fans gullible as ever!

  • 97 pawl250 // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Did someone just compare Douglas to Bramble because they are both free? Lol

    Douglas is 10x the player, younger and has the potential to be even better than he is now!

    Bramble hahah! Your logic I assume is he’s free we shouldn’t sign free players! Many players have left on a free who are amazing players …. Next yer Lewdonowski is free does that mean he is no good?

    Lol

  • 98 LooneyToon41 // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    @95 Pawl. It’s been reported the fee is €15m, so about £13m….just reports mind you, but not quite £20m. It would be gullible to believe that….

  • 99 TorqToon // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    Got ssn on. Where is the Dortmund / pea news?

  • 100 PotugueseTOON // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    Bellanda to Dinamo Kiev

  • 101 LooneyToon41 // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    @96. It’s called irony. A bit like steely, and goldy, but a different colour. ;-/

  • 102 Belfast // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    Looks like another one bites the dust then.

    That Carlton Cole nightmare is becoming more and more likely by the day lol

  • 103 Belfast // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Think its sky sports Germany

  • 104 LooneyToon41 // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    @98 Torq. Sorry, Skysport!

  • 105 LooneyToon41 // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    Sky Italy claim the PEA deal is done with Dortmund too.

  • 106 LooneyToon41 // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    I guess Lewandowski’s off to Bayern after all.

  • 107 the truth will out // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    “pea ncles rep here to see you a mr kinnear “.”who is he more to the point who is ncle”

  • 108 belgrade fan // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Now we have one month of NUFC linked with this one and that one but truly without real bid. No time for that, see y guys in Aug

  • 109 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    PEA to Dortmund has been reported on sky italia, that’s about as reliable as Indy!

    If they have agreed a fee though we either a) need to match/beat that bid sharpish like
    Or
    B) move on QUICKLY and not p1ss about like normal

  • 110 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    This is very disappointing if true but we may as well move on quickly. Will probably ignore the blog for the next few days with the inevitable moaning that’s about to occur from the majority on here.

  • 111 PotugueseTOON // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    Mangala?? no chance we can sign him. Fc Porto don t sell him for less than 50 million…..
    It is a tremendous FB but won t happen.

  • 112 proudtobageordie // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    Torq

    Its tw@tter bullsh@t. SSN italia. the same people who reported Ba had signed for Galatasaray lol

  • 113 TorqToon // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    You dont mean sky Italia do you??

    I thought it was OUR sky sports?

  • 114 Jail for Ashley // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Pawl,
    Why don’t you source an NUFC blog for intellectuals if you think we’re all so stupid, and what makes you think we all want Bent, I think most people wouldn’t touch him but would rather have him than be told it was a difficult window and we have enough talent in the building , also I think you might find that Abedayor doesn’t ply his trade for less than 75K a week.

  • 115 JAMSHA // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    bent to newcastle done deal…. u heard it hea 1st

  • 116 TorqToon // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    Thank God!!! If people had said sky sports Italia, I wouldnt have worried!!!

  • 117 Ben3arfa // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    Instead of trying to sign some quality players , our scum director of football is too busy giving moronic interviews to the media and making us the laughing stock of the EPL

    We are in some serious trouble people!!!!

  • 118 corkypants85 // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    on pea, once again we miss out because we piss around to much!!! if he was really our number one target this deal should of been tied up last month whats the problem? it doesnt take other clubs this long to get there targets “over the line”. its all getting very boring and very tedious dont know what the problem is but it needs sorting.

    i thought we had seen the back of this with a good january obviously not

  • 119 fatman // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    Ben3arfa
    its ok we are going to sign players once the fat Pikey get off the phone to Ferguson, mind hes been speaking to him everyday for all his life. And no doubt hes taken so long to get here because he had to transport all of his awards that he won in his 200 game playing career.

  • 120 BandB // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    I see that St Mirren are saying Abeid hasn’t been released by Newcastle, and there were reports earlier in the week that he would report back for training when our squad re-assembles.
    Maybe no-one will be released until Kinnear has had a week or two to run his eye over them for this “report.” And maybe no-one other than identified as the “must-have regardless” targets will be signed either.
    Ashley is on record as saying “I’ve lost my money” at Newcastle, and he must have known that as soon as he saw the hidden debt all those years ago.
    How is he going to get at least some of it back? Not by chucking good money after bad. Unless he plans to be around for another five years or so, it’s hard to see why he would start sanctioning £15-£20 million pound signings now.

  • 121 Transfer Sage // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    Why shouldn’t we want 20mil on a striker.

    Look at Liverpool who spent 20mil on Suarez….a good striker is invaluable as can make a huge difference, more so than any other position as goals win games.

    Money doesn’t guarantee success but makes it easier and with good scouting and money you can do wonders.

    Why do fans care about money anyway? As a fan I don’t care whether we spend nothing or 100mil a season…as long as we bring in the right players money is irrelevant and something for the company accountants to worry over…not me.

  • 122 Transfer Sage // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    And it’s ok saying let’s get 3 good players for 20mil instead of 1 but if we are playing accountants then think of wages.

    40k a week, standard pl wage is 2mil a year.

    So over our typical 5 yet last deal that’s 10 mil. Or 30 mil if we bring in the three players instead of one.

    Transfer fees are a big part of deals but not the only part.

  • 123 fatman // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    BandB
    And what hidden debt was that, you cant hid debt when you sell a business, its fraud and you go to jail for it.

  • 124 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Torq
    I was proper relieved when I saw it was on sky italia!

  • 125 WWYCD // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    Cabaye talking on Toon website? Where’s his transfer request?

  • 126 BandB // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    Sage,

    I’d love to see that kind of signing. But Liverpool are a sporting enterprise.

  • 127 geordiefromthemidlands // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    Well some french press picking it up now. And saying we bid €12m take it or leave it cash up front offer.

  • 128 Rowan Milsted // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    Swansea seem to be dominating most of the transfer talk so far. They’re heavily linked with 2 forwards and a winger – almost exactly what we need. Still, very early days yet. I sort of love the transfer window but, having said that, I hate it.

  • 129 BandB // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Fatman

    He didn’t do due process did he? I’m no accountant and I’m not interested in business or semantics. In simple terms, the books weren’t as he expected to find them, I understand. Unless you know differently.

  • 130 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    MA
    What do you reckon Carr me old mucker is this PEA lad worth €15 mil ??

    Carr
    Absolutely mike, he’s dynamite he’d be a great addition and the fact that Dortmund are after him speaks volumes about how highly rated this kid is

    MA
    Whatcha thinking joe?

    JFK
    €15 mil f uk off! I’ve never even heard of ‘im!

    MA
    Have you got list of alternatives joe?

    JFK
    Yup here it is

    Carlton palmer
    Robbie Earle
    Dean windass
    Gazza
    That kid i signed in that film Goal that I wrote directed and starred in

  • 131 Beattie25 // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    Why is everyone worried about PEA?

    There is absolutely no chance in hell we will sign him.

    Every time the transfer window comes around do you all just forget that ‘the days of trophy signings are over’?!

    If we were going to sign him it would have been last season when he was worth 50% of what he is now.

    Let it go people, it’s not going to happen.

    We strengthened in January and we will only buy if we sell. We might sign one or two small time players/youngsters but we will not sign a top quality CF whilst we have Cisse, Ameobi, Gouffran and Campbell on the books and we wont sign a CB whilst we have Colo, Saylor, Mapou and Willo on the books.

    You lot earn the title of most deluded fans in the world.

    GK – Krul, Elliot,
    RB – Debuchy, Tavernier, Raylor (injured)
    CB – Colo, Saylor, Mapou, Willo
    LB – Santon, Haidara
    RM – Benny, Marv – Not my choice for RM’s
    CM – Cabaye, Sissoko, Anita, Tiote, Gosling
    LM – Guti, Ferguson
    CF – Cisse, Shola Ameobi, Gouffran,

    Youngsters pushing first team – Alnwick (GK), Good (CB), Streete (CB), Dummett (LB), Abied (CM), Bigi (CM), Vuckic (CM), Newton (CM), Inman (CM), Campbell (CF).

    I almost guarantee we will sign more young kids and make do unless we sell.

  • 132 djm... // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    Didn’t Jk have a bad relationship with st etienne when he was manager for two years? Something about them moving the goalposts with a right back or something?

  • 133 Beattie25 // Jul 2, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    Missed Obertan too

  • 134 Jail for Ashley // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    The great thing about this window is that I can’t be disappointed as I don’t expect us to sign anybody where as last year I was utterly deflated and still angry about it now.

  • 135 ochytoon // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    This is getting really tedious. Looks like we’ve left it too late to bring in any top, quality players. Everyone else around us is making moves and we’re just sitting here, masturbating.

  • 136 Transfer Sage // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    Beattie

    Hardly deluded to want the side to improve.

    I don’t expect any big signings knowing the club but to be a solid top 7 side I think we need a very good striker and a good left side player.

    Anything else is a bonus I’d say.

  • 137 fatman // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    BandB

    yes i do he knew the debt £87m and the due diligence would have shown the loans were secured against hall land, so when hall sold up the loans had to be repaid or re financed. and i know this because my brother was in on the deal not saying how though.

  • 138 Beattie25 // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    Sage

    Wanting the side to improve by signing £20 million top players is logical.

    Expecting the side to improve by signing £20 million top players is deluded.

  • 139 Transfer Sage // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    Beattie fair comment

  • 140 corkypants85 // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    if you stand still you go backwards in football we defo learnt that lesson last year!!!!!!

  • 141 Beattie25 // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    corkypants

    The fans already knew that but it seems the management didn’t.

    Also judging by the fact that the management team have force fed us all the ‘Europa League’ argument I doubt they still believe that standing still is going backwards.

    All I hear from the club is that without Europe we will have a better season. That to me says ‘we can now cope with the small squad we have’.

  • 142 BandB // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    Fatman,

    I have seen that before, possibly from you, and it makes sense. Thank you.
    By “hidden”, I had meant unforeseen.
    So why would he buy at a price he’d struggle to sell at? And the “I’ve lost my money” quote is genuine, so what did he mean by that? Honest questions.

  • 143 tequilamag // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    Ochytoon too much information

  • 144 surreytoon // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    PEA wants to come to England

    He has mentioned NUFC by name. He has not mentioned any other team e.g. Dortmund

    We have allegedly made a bid – I’ve read E12m – sounds like our kind of bid

    Dortmund have tabled E15m

    It is said his club want E17m

    If we match Dortmund – then I think we will get him, as he prefers England

    Those saying we will not spend that much – well we spent a similar amount on Cisse. And perhaps we are banking on some “significant” sales too?

  • 145 Beattie25 // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    It makes me sick that Ashley, Llambias and Pardew have continuously reminded us that we cannot compete with the bigger clubs.

    How is it that last Summer we had a total net spend less than any other PL club and less than 80% of Championship clubs and that this Summer we see clubs like Swansea, Southampton, Cardiff and Norwich all making major moves in the market with other similar sized clubs also looking to improve their squads.

    All we are left with is rumors, guess work and lies because we know this club doesn’t speak of transfers yet every day we buy into propaganda saying we’re after him or him.

  • 146 Beattie25 // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    Seriously if anyone thinks he would chose NUFC over Dortmund then you are fcuking mental.

    If he indeed does prefer England then he could play for Dortmund for a year or 2 and potentially move to a big English club rather than slum it at NUFC and work under a senile DOF, a shit manager and a tightfisted owner.

    Yes today is a day I am venting but most of you live in a fantasy world.

  • 147 surreytoon // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    @Beattie25

    Did January get sucked into a black hole?

  • 148 Tubai // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    Just heard B.Dortmund have agreed 15m euro deal for Aubameyang. Just can’t believe it we r not showing any ambition regarding strengthning our squad. Still no strikers signed although we r short in that area. Even swansea seems more ambitious then us. Just can’t fathom what is the ambition of our owner?? What does he intend to do with newcastle??

  • 149 fatman // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    BandB

    to promote his company and it’s paying off big stile hardly ever out of the new to the extent now that anytime you hear nufc’s troubles you think of sd, it what he purchased the club for and its working a treat each year see’s record profits for spo*ts di*ect. i have seen studies that Ashly’s exposure through nufs equates to almost £20m worth of free promotion.

  • 150 corkypants85 // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Beattie

    maybe the case that is what the management think!

    its not what i think, especially with everyone around us adding to there squad and us letting some of our fringe players leave what happens if we get injury hit again like last season.

  • 151 jazzyp // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    I for one wish we had the same structure in place as say Swansea.where the hierarchy at least have the capacity to genuinely to interact with the Swansea fans
    huy Jenkins has came out and given a reassuring interview that they are trying to do the best by the club and has made bold moves for the likes of gomis-bony-ince.
    even as a patient supporter of over 30 year,under the present hierarchy give no confidence to the mass support and long sufferers of nufc

  • 152 aidytoon9 // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    I have a strong feeling now that pea won’t come as bigger clubs who will also pay more wages seem yo be interested in him, lets move on quick as we need another goal scorer and defo a top left winger who can cross a ball.
    And defo wouldn’t sell perch, he only 27 and very good cover player.

  • 153 tequilamag // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    Beattie pretty sure you were saying the same thing in January re signings. Bit early to write the window off yet

  • 154 aidytoon9 // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    I think is we don’t strengthen up front this season and on left side we will be hovering around relegation again.

  • 155 Beattie25 // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    January was the last throw of the dice. The final act of a desperate owner who saw relegation looming.

    It was widely reported that in Jan we brought our Summer signings forward.

    Any players we were due to sign are already here.

  • 156 Beattie25 // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    Tequila

    I was pretty convinced that in Jan we would sign someone, I didn’t expect 5 players truth be told.

  • 157 BandB // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    Fatman,

    I see that too, but I’ve never heard a figure put on it. It’s certainly true that whenever you hear of NUFC’s troubles you think of Sports Direct. So that’s £20m worth of bad publicity? For free.
    I’m still a bit puzzled, but thank you for taking the time to explain it to me. I’ll go away and have another little think now.

  • 158 low fell mag // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    Why all the doom and gloom.lets be patient,,the real activity in this transfer market has yet too start.
    Kinnear by all accounts would like Pea in by Friday.
    Its not time to start flapping just yet ,as they say in the world of Northern Soul, Keep The Faith!

  • 159 remy D // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    Can everyone please stop asking the two dickheads on here what is going on with transfers god man they haven’t got a clue f****g porqe and proudknob pure mugs and now we lost out on pea people will still ask them what they no

  • 160 tequilamag // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    It was reported that Gouffran and Sissoko were brought forward. It was never stated that no signings would be made in the Summer.
    MA has made a poor decision bringing in JFK but if he does not back him with transfers the decision looks even more stupid. Signings will come.

  • 161 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    I was optimistic at one stage about getting PEA but have to admit that optimism is starting to fade somewhat.

  • 162 djm... // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    We also had a number of targets brought forwar only for them to want to stay put until this summer.

  • 163 Markaccus // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    I agree with Beattie

    Appart from January, our transfer window activity has been disappointing at best during ashleys reign. The first one would have been better had it not been for the milner sale and replacing him with nacho burrito enchelada quesedilla gonzalezzzzzz and and the xisco kid.

  • 164 geordiefromthemidlands // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    This doesn’t seem familiar at all does it.
    Erdinc
    Gameiro
    De Jong
    …….PEA?

  • 165 remy D // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    Were is porqe and proudknob ?cant wait to see what they come up with next after missing out on pea

  • 166 Markaccus // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    Geordiefromthemidlands

    Id like to add Gervinho and Barnetta to that list :D

  • 167 Beattie25 // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    Tequila

    I have no doubt signings will come, but not of the caliber everyone is expecting.

    Anyone who thinks we will be in for PEA for £15 million needs their mental state examined.

    We will sell the likes of Perch, try to sell the likes of Gosling and Obertan and look to replace them with younger players who are cheaper.

    IMO

  • 168 djm... // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    Gouffran and sissoko where free this summer if I’m not mistaken, maybe that’s why we where initially going to wait. Debuchy was always a long term target, may or may not have been brought in at his ‘grand old age’ to appease cabaye. I believe MYM was brought in to be colo’s replacement this season and to get 6 months of English experience.

  • 169 surreytoon // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    @Geordiefromthemidlands

    I don’t think there is anything untoward about that list i.e. they were legitimate targets we had

    That we did not get them and they went to other clubs is more about us and our attractiveness – we will generally lose out to Dortmund, PSG etc – but at least we are aiming high in attempting to challenge for these.

  • 170 aidytoon9 // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    Would sell Orberton, gosling,jonas, shola, sammy, tav, etc.

  • 171 Markaccus // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Surrey

    The conspiracy theorist wouls suggest we are aiming high at players we have no chance with, just to create the illusion of ambition, then using the “just couldnt get them over the line” excuse, then signing fernando whothefu*k from fc neverheardofthem and jimmy pants from bumchester utd.

  • 172 jazzyp // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    everyone thought we were delusional when we went in for shearer when it was a sure fire bet he was going to mufc
    everyone thought we were delusional when we went in for owen when it was a sure fire bet he was going back to lfc.
    whether we are or not in for aubameyang,he has not as yet signed on the Dortmund dotted line
    keep the faith guys !!
    on second thoughts f@ck that were f@ckin sh@t with a w@nk owner a w@nk board of directors who couldn’t get douglas over the line neither mind pea!!
    your all delusional and off ya rockers if you think we are going to sign anyone of significants you f@ckers.
    oooooooohhh that felt good to get it off my chest

  • 173 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    Remy D – why on earth are you blaming torq and proud if we don’t sign PEA. Never once have they stated that we will definitely sign him, only that we are interested and we have a chance. You must have one miserable life when all you wanna do is have a go at others.

  • 174 Beattie25 // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    Seriously who do you think we will sign this Summer people?

    Take of the blinkers, stop listening to the press and fake journos and go off your own instincts built by the experiences we have shared.

    Every week it will be the same. Last week – ‘I can’t believe we weren’t in for Carroll, whats Kinnear doing?’.

    This week – ‘I can’t believe we weren’t in for PEA, whats Kinnear doing?’.

    Next week – ‘I can’t believe we weren’t in for Bony, whats Kinnear doing?’.

  • 175 Laurent Robert 32 // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    That Indykaila tweet is like what Elmanio, mentioned last week or the week before and a decision would be made before the 15th July I think it was. £100m apart with the Saudi Crown Prince. Hmmmm.

  • 176 tequilamag // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    Beattie, glad you qualified your comments with IMO. For me it`s still an open question, Did anybody see MA spending 11 mill on Cisse? We all know MA has a system for transfers and that is to spend within income. Income this season will be greater with the extra TV money there is a case to be made that MA will be prepared to spend more as there will be extra money to spend. I have no inside track on what goes through his mind but as an educated guess I think or hope he will have learned the lessons from last Summer.

  • 177 Markaccus // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    Beattie

    Id hate to think we were not at least trying to sign some good players. However, as i am now used to rubbish transfer windows, i am expecting bent, tomkins and some unknown winger. We will then say we had 3 purples lined up but couldn’t et.c et.c et.c et.c

  • 178 count // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    Beattie = dullard

    IMO

  • 179 Beattie25 // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    Tequila

    Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t it rumored that Cisse signed due to the payment given by Virgin Money.

    We signed nobody last Summer and signed people after the Wonga deal happened.

    I doubt Ashley invested his money into the signings.

  • 180 Beattie25 // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    Beattie = realist.

    IMO

  • 181 geordiefromthemidlands // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    I know there’s nothing untoward but we keep having targets like this and not getting in a back up. We desperately need a ST

  • 182 Markaccus // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    …….says the guy who has a username designed to draw insults to his petty comments (by his own admission)

  • 183 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    Don’t know if this is true, I don’t read much news doing silly season!

    http://www.fanatix.com/news/borussia-dortmund-agree-e15m-deal-to-sign-tottenham-target/125694/

  • 184 TorqToon // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    Afternoon Remy D – how are ya mate? :-)

  • 185 Beattie25 // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    Markaccus

    I hope I’m proven wrong but my gripe today is with the fans that believe we are in for these players with nothing to back it up with and then get pi55ed off when better teams buy them and look to blame it on Joe Kinnear.

    In the past 6 windows what we have mainly heard is what you have put, ‘we couldn’t get them over the line’.

    Thtas what I’m basing my opinion on, experience and history, others seem to be falling into the whole deluded illusions created by nufc fans for nufc fans and inflated by social media, local press and ITK’s.

    Good to see you are being as cautious as I am.

    This ins’t about a lack of hope, as I hope we do sign good players, it’s about seeing the truth.

    We slag Kinnear off for lying about his past yet most on here are hypocrites because they also manipulate facts and then pretend to think we were in for £15 million players all along.

  • 186 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    I can see it has already been reported :D

  • 187 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    On second thoughts I think Remy D might be right. I’m putting last seasons failure all down to torq. What an arse hole you really are torq how could you get us nearly relegated.

  • 188 jazzyp // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    go on torq-sock it to him.
    I knew as soon as rumours of peas pending transfer to Dortmund was announced people would start to hung draw and quarter your sorry ass lol

  • 189 remy D // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    I wouldn’t start if I was you unbelievably spunknut.oi oi porqe were is the trusty sidekick proudknob

  • 190 TorqToon // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    Tekkers – if thats the case, and I truly am working for NUFC – I’m kicking off as I haven’t received a penny in wages!! Typical skintflint MA!!!!

    :-)

  • 191 TorqToon // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    Remy was that English?!?!

    Does the blog have ‘google translate’???

  • 192 TorqToon // Jul 2, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    Ps – My trust sidekick is cleaning my ITK-mobile I will have you know!

  • 193 WWYCD // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Am with u Remy. Boo Torq!! Me and Ibiza think he’s a mackem ;)

  • 194 tequilamag // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Beattie the Wonga money would only have come on stream this Summer, the Virgin logo was still on the shirts till the end of the season and as it`s only 8 mill a year that really only equates to a one middling signing plus wages for a year. The PR dept talked up the Wonga link with players to justify getting into bed with loan sharks. It`s small beer compared to the 30 mill increase in tv money .
    I am not saying we are going to get 20 mill spent on a player or even 15 mill, but I still expect significant funds to be spent on team rebuilding especially as it looks like we are going to lose a few players . Harper Simmo for certain , probably Perch and there may well be others. The young players we have showed last season they are not up to standard yet(if ever) so they will all have to be replaced.

  • 195 Moe // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    I disagree with those who think NUFC won’t pay +15M for a player.

    Club has showed that they can pay up when they see the deal is right. i.e. Cisse, we were much more linked to Maiga and the likes but we snatched him.
    Also not many were expecting we would sign the likes of YMY and Sissoko, people forget that those are potentially BIG signings.

    We CAN sign big players although I recon DL was the man behind those signings.
    Let’s see what is JK capable of.

  • 196 TorqToon // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    Yo – you turncoat!!! Get off Ibizas fence!!!! Haha

  • 197 Moe // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    btw Torq,

    Any progress on the tactical adviser story?

    I hope it wasn’t Joe Kinnear who they meant !!

  • 198 Ibizatoon // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    We don’t just think it, we have proof! Well, we did, but we may have lost the proof.

    Oh well. Moving on.

    I think I may, MAY, have got my stories a little mixed up earlier today regarding a tweet….still not sure mind, I really just should avoid the internet when I am tired.

    It may well have been Sissokos tweet that mentioned Newcastle and it was that account that I was checking to see if it was genuine and then came across PEAs account.

    So basically, just ignore anything I said this morning as I know have serious doubts…apologies :)

    Anyway, back to proving Torq is a mackem….is it a bit like testing if someone is a witch?

  • 199 yorkymag // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Looks like we lost out on Pea twitter coming out of Germany says he is to sign for Dortmund in the next few hours
    Hope is not true but I fear it is

  • 200 proudtobageordie // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    Torq

    Phone’s cleaned now mate what next Sir

  • 201 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Ibiza…we always ignore what you say!

    …did you say anything? :D

  • 202 Ibizatoon // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    What on earth is that smell? Smells like old person.

    Oh, hi Jesper. Do you want a boiled sweet mate?

  • 203 Ibizatoon // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    jonas gutierrez ?@elgalgojonas 17m

    Five years ago i sign my contract with newcastle today 5 years later i can said it was the Best decisión, great club, fans and great moments

    Jonas out? :)

  • 204 Markaccus // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    Wow it is amazing what can happen here during my walk to the bus stop

    But apparently it is all torqs fault. What a bstard

  • 205 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    Ibiza…old jokes don’t work on me any more mate; just found out a few weeks ago that in here I am young ones :D lol

  • 206 tequilamag // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    Ibiza, are you trying to break the internet again? Please put the twitter down it will end in tears.

  • 207 WWYCD // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    Torq
    Haha but the fence is so comfy might start renting a little place haha

    Ibiza
    Are u suggesting we throw Torq in a lake? Deal

  • 208 Markaccus // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    Torq out?

  • 209 Ibizatoon // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    Tequila…Oh okay, spoil sport :)

    Jesper…So you’re so senile that the jokes from before bothered you and had you thinking you were old? Even better :) How’s things mate?

    Yo…Exactly. Maybe tie a block for each rumour he has told around his leg first?

  • 210 TorqToon // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    Wow….!!! All this hatred…

    Is THIS what it’s like to be JK???

    If so, I don’t care for it too much! :-)

  • 211 LooneyToon41 // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    @91. First report about PEA to Dortmund appeared on SKY Sport Germany. This was before our friends at Sky ‘Make it up as you go along’ Italia reported it.

    RMC Sports Framce say that the fee is €13-€15m + bonus, but that NO final agreement has been made.

  • 212 Markaccus // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    Torq

    Hows your cardio-vascular health these days. You’re not gonna throw a wobbler mid november and leave us without a technical director of itk are yoi?

  • 213 TurkishFan101 // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    Afternoon lads, I genuinely think if we have put in a “bid” in excess of £15m-17.5, then PEA will have chose us over BVB. If he wanted to play for BVB he would of said he is looking for Champions League ambition. He came out lately praising us and how he would always put the BPL before any other league.

    Now, have we really put in a bid? No we have not put in a bid since last season in January which was refused. If we had put a bid between £15m-£17.5 he would be coming here as his main priority is to play in the BPL and not the Bundesliga. Obviously BVB are a massive team and are in CL every season but it does not change the fact that he wants to genuinely come to us.

    I would like to end with saying, the Chronicle and Journal Live have always put headlines and made up quotes in order for us fans to think these bids are “true”. This happened with our previous targets:

    Gervinho
    Gamerio
    Luuk De Jong
    Bryan Ruiz (Remember that late last 40minutes or so Mike Ashley made it so it looks like we tried to get them across the “line” but we failed to as he knew clearly Bryan Ruiz had passed his medical.

    So yeah I don’t expect anything different under this transfer window apart from unless we sell some player with big profit we wont spend big on a striker. But Darren Bent looks more likely to come along side Carlton Cole.

    Also, I don’t understand we sell players like Perch whom does brilliant job covering for us on many positions but players like Jonas get to start week in week out with his Sh!t performance and is guaranteed a first place in squad? unbelievable.

  • 214 Bearsize // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    Lets face it we cant buy cole and bent straight away, they have to seem like second options as we couldnt get ‘them over the line’ will be the excuse. when we have money to spend but arent willing to spend it, you have to seem like you are to please the fans. Also perch for 700k seems cheap. Not happy with that business at all

  • 215 Ibizatoon // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    Torq…It’s a thin line between love and hate. Not sure how that helps you, but perhaps it will.

  • 216 WWYCD // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    Ibiza
    Hahaha perfect solution. Thats right Torq ur days are numbered :)

  • 217 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    Torq…ITK ot JK you take your pick ;) lol

    Ibiza…things are great. It is summer now, though I think someone has stolen the good weather :( (How’s Ibiza and the funhouse that is NUFC?)

  • 218 Markaccus // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    My days ar numbered too…. i usually call it ‘the date’ :D

  • 219 Rotonda heights // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    Beattie

    yes we can all fabricate stuff but I don’t think any of us would do it quite so publically as JFK.

  • 220 Average_Contents // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Come on ed keep up with the times mate start a new thread Dortmund have put a bid in for pea ( not my words) plus I’m sick of going to the bottom of newsnow and then scrolling down the bottom of this page! But on a brighter note I do believe that another way of killing said witch is to use the ol burn them at the stake technique! Are you ready to burn torq along with your ITK Knowledge that you have never said is gospel? Hey Ibiza glad to see your still on the fence mate! Doesn’t it hurt your arse or do you have a cushion?

  • 221 WWYCD // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Markaccus
    U talking witch craft too?!? Ibiza it seems we are in a coven

    Haha alright enough of the daft comments lets get back to the exciting transfer window I am looking forward to the PEA ordeal to be over now tbh its dragged on for months and its a bit boring now

  • 222 TorqToon // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    Ok but before it all goes dark for me…

    Can I just ask – Why when we are linked with a player, do people state they will only believe it when he is shirt in hand…

    Yet when we are supposedly selling a player, or missing out on a target, it instantly becomes gospel?!?? That is all….

    Steak and chips for my final meal, please??

    Or maybe Remy D could serve me up some “Porque chops”!!?

  • 223 Ginger // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    “I’ve been a manager for 35 years. I’ve been ‘Manager of the Year’. I’ve won every award there is in football as a player.

    “I’ve been a manager for 35 years. I’ve been ‘Manager of the Year’. I’ve won every award there is in football as a player. I think all those qualities put me head and shoulders above every other director of football.”
    Joe Kinnear

    “I think all those qualities put me head and shoulders above every other director of football.”

    Where is this man getting these facts from? Ahahaha.

  • 224 Rotonda heights // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    Beattie

    a senile DOF, a shit manager and a tightfisted owner.

    succinctly put indeed

  • 225 Ibizatoon // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    Yo…Perfect and me go together like JFK and______ :)

    Jesper…Summer is in full swing…at least that’s what my clients tell me….Weather is great though, just need to get some time to go and enjoy it…hopefully soon. NUFC funhouse? Aye, a right barrel of laughs!

  • 226 WWYCD // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    Torq
    Many years of the worst happening and knowledge that Ashley is our owner?

    Ibiza
    Manager of the year awards?

  • 227 rainrix // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    Ginger… I know right? Everyone knows JK won LMA manager of the year 3 times :roll:

  • 228 Ibizatoon // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    Torq….”Porque chops” – Brilliant :)

    Yo…It’s a great tactic really. All us NUFC fans are so sick of the rubbish we’ll just be pleased for the window to be closed and the pain to have stopped.

    Average….You get used to the splinters after a while.

  • 229 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    Ibiza…haven’t you moved your office outside yet?

    …or better down to that café by the ocean where you are scouting all the bikini girls ;)

  • 230 Ibizatoon // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    Yo…That works for me :)

  • 231 Ibizatoon // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    Jesper…Soon mate, real soon. Moving this weekend….watch out bikini girls!

  • 232 jackostoon // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    afternoon gentlemen, read the blog for some time now but never posted before, feel the need to now though, i would say 98% of people on here are genuine nufc supporters, the other 2% maybe not, as you may gather, i don’t type too good so i’ll probably not post too often, i just want to say, torq, proud and anyone else who gives to us information that they’ve heard, well done, keep it coming, a little snipet of sunshine far outweighs the doom and gloom of negativity, let’s be patient and see what develops, i’m not one for slating people, but, REMY D comes across as a complete dick and his views are only shared by the very few, sorry for the long post but i feel all the better for it, vive le toon

  • 233 Ginger // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    Rainrix

    The “I’ve won every award there is in football as a player.” cracked me up. He’s won the Ballon d’or!

  • 234 rainrix // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Ginger…. Ah of course joe has. Who do ya think taught messi and ronaldo? :)

  • 235 jimmysmith // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    I think it’s ridiculous this idea that Ashley was unaware the club was in great debt when he bought it. The guy built his fortune buying out smaller companies and reinventing them in his own image. How is it likely he has ever bought a company even once and been saddled with any unforseen debt, much less an unforseen debt the size of Newcastles. Fatman claims its not even legal, I’m not certain of that, but he’d have to have been experiencing a psychotic episode to make such a monumental blunder, if it is at all possible which I highly doubt.
    I smell a rat or at the very least a sly ruse.

  • 236 one Tony Green // Jul 2, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    Lads if this bloke PEA has signed for Dortmund then he has a signed for a bigger and better club than ours.

    They get 60 odd thousand at home have won the league 2 times in the last 3 years.

    Pep Guardiola chose Germany over the EPL so it is not just about money. The German League is the best supported league in Europe.

  • 237 TurkishFan101 // Jul 2, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    @TorqToon Because its not hard to believe that our star players will be sold after the training and manager ability is flawed to their disadvantage. Why would they want to stay with us when they can win silverware elsewhere and enjoy a football which can be witnessed as technical and not dinosaur age hoofing? We are most likely to believe that our players will get sold because for Mike Ashley it is business and when he gets the opportunity to sell players for a bit of profit he will and try to bring in bargains to stabilize the team. Just like he does with SD, look for cost effective factories, use the cheapest material, pay £0.10p an hour to Asian countries and get away with selling replica and cheap goods at SD.

    What is their to believe when a striker like PEA is worth more then £15m and that Mike Ashley will bid for that striker when he can call it for odds and buy Bent and Carlton Cole for combined fee of £5m when Carlton Cole is free? When we miss out on players like Belhanda who can also play out wide and attacking Midfield role we have practically missed out on a bargain since Marveaux is deemed to get sold as well so how can we.

    Nothing is changing, Mike would rather stay middle to bottom table and still secure money from BPL money and his brand getting advertised to diversify the market then spend loads on one striker when he could get 4 players on bargain with the same money.

    This tactic has been used allot where it seems that we have put in a “bid” but its from our local North East papers or rumours around in France which comes from that certain “Journalist” whom gets paid by Mike Ashley to put in the papers to say “Oh look our Owner wants to straighten things up since he appointed JK, appointing he couldn’t of been that bad, he will have abit more knowledge with footballing terms so he can get our targets over the line, people need to stop hating and blaming Mike for everything, oh wow JK is in and already rumours are flying in, we have put in a bid for PEA” This is what I hear from most ambitious “fans” and they seem to stick to it and be fine with it as long as they keep going to matches and spending money on merchandise. Do you really think JK can get PEA to our club? you must be on cocaine cause only player he is capable of getting over the line is the likes of Carlton Cole but that would be a big effort for the “best DOF” in the league cause he is a free agent and he would even mess that deal up.

    Torq, I think if it would be good if you kept quiet about rumours and speculation. Cause we get our hopes so high and it gets crushed down like Monster Truck on a mayhem derby. We are called deluded everywhere I go, in the South East, Twitter, I mean everywhere but that is what comes out their mouth and it plays a vital role when our fans speculate of buying Rooney and even PEA whom costs over £15m and they genuinely think we have a chance of getting them. Sorry but not a chance in a different galactic universe with Mike Ashley and Joe Kinnear in charge.

  • 238 LooneyToon41 // Jul 2, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    RMC France reporting that Dortmund have not yet matched the €15m fee demanded by Saint Etienne, but that PEA himself has agreed terms.

  • 239 microbar // Jul 2, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    NUFC a club going nowhere with an owner who is loath to spend anything, we need four or five purples and keep what we have,But we will loss at least two purples and replace with mediocrity.
    A sure way to be fighting relgation once again.
    we are no longer a big club as alex said just a wee club.




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