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Fans Waiting To Hear From Pardew – He’s Been Sighted

2:57 pm, Saturday, July 6th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 167 Comments

Some of the headlines of articles over the last several weeks have been that Alan Pardew’s silence has been deafening to Newcastle fans, and that’s been very true.

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Alan Pardew – we hope he’s smiling today

Ever since Joe Kinnear was shockingly appointed the Director of Football (what was Mike Ashley thinking?), then Alan has probably done the right thing,  and held a (long) diplomatic silence.

And it’s what Joe Kinnear should have done, but Joe being Joe, has shot his mouth off again, so to speak,  and caused all kinds of trouble.

And it’s been as bad as the 53 F words he used in his first press conference as Newcastle’s interim manager in September, 2008,  when he let fly at the Daily Mirror’s Simon Bird for some things Simon had written about Joe.

But Alan Pardew is now back in Newcastle and taking his first training session at Benton today, and news is that he has already given an interview to nufcTV,  and we’re hoping that interview will be published today.

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Newcastle players in training today – Alan’s on the right

And like a lot of important interviews, and this one is important, we hope the club will release the video so all fans can see it, and not only those who have a nufcTV subscription.

But we don’t expect Alan Pardew to be anything like Joe Kinnear, and he’ll say all the right things – but that’s what he should be doing to try to calm things down on Tyneside, after Kinnear managed in a twinkling of an eye to upset almost every single Newcastle fan with that outrageous  talkSPORT interview.

Nobody can ever accuse Joe of being a diplomat, which is uusally needed in the executive ranks, but rather he’s his very own fan club. :D

And I’ve had a few notes from some readers saying in truth we’re not really too bad off this summer, and that’s right, and we have to remember we brought in five top Frenchmen in January, and we’ve yet to see the best of them.

But my concern now is with Joe Kinnear – and he’s a loose cannon if ever there was one – and that’s the concern many fans have about the coming season – what damage will Joe Kinnear do?

What do you think?

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167 responses so far ↓

  • 1 JackButler // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    Pardew will tow the party line as he always does

  • 2 jamesnufc86 // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    In one sense Pardew must be delighted JFK has come in, it’s taken the focus away from him anyway. I actually feel a bit sorry for Pards

  • 3 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    It’s a bit boring being a NUFC fan these days isn’t it; the football is boring and it is quite boring transfer news wise.

    The only thing that is not boring is the PR aspect of Newcastle, but we could all do without that :’(

  • 4 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    Again I am sorry but not every team has bought all their players for the new season. Some wait until deadline day!

    Yes pre season is important but we bought 5 players in January and we have lost 4 since then! According to my mathematics we are +1 compared to last season, have a better squad for (minus Ba as he needs replaced which before window I believe he will) AND we have had more than just 1 pre season to gel these 5 players into the team, plus a pre season ….. That means we are better off than last year with +1 first team player, more experience for a younger fringe players I.e Campbell, Bigi, Vuckic, Sammy and we aren’t in EL!

    Ok am the one that is being stupid though!

    Perch Simpson Ba and Harper!

    Ba is the only starter, Simpson is replaced with Debuchy/Haidara (as stated Santon swapping sides) and Perch is replaced with Sissoko, Mbiwa.

    Ba is really the only non replaced member.

    Goalkeepers as far as my understanding goes is the coach stated the young Alnwick is good enough now and will be a suitable back up behind Elliot and Krul.

    So am I still crazy to think we are better off this year and than last with still a whole pre season and transfer window to go?

    Oh and JK twitter reports LOL please if that’s evidence get the guy to post pictures or an interview! I know I would have photos to prove it all, and I would be selling them to the sun not posting on twitter!

    Oh wait no he’s in Africa that’s right, so bottom line is no one knows for sure just reading or believing the tripe you are told! Typical!

    Would love for him to Monday to Tuesday come out and talk to the public lol ….. What would be the excuse the holiday is 2 days long, or he came back early!

    Do you really think he is on holiday at This time
    Or perhaps consider if he is the job he is doing can be delegated or MA step in as the plans are in place? This is a football club not a second hand shoe shop! Some people like stirring the pot, but all you are doing is upsetting yourself in process.

    Likelyhood is we will sign 2-3 players before the window ends and its standard! Means we have more players than last year (we already do unless we sell more), a more competitive squad (better players now compared to last year and youngsters have more experience), and less matches no travelling to Greece early doors, allows us to take it easy!

    Time will tell but am confident on top 10. No evidence to think otherwise.

    Anyone talking to me about bad position last year well look at the year before that and the year following on any given season that can happen what’s to say we won’t finish 7th this year and 15th the following year!

    Injuries played a part last year, that much is apparent! You didn’t see other teams have the entire starting 11 out at somepoint during December, in 1 month alone all 11 players missed 1 game! That is a problem! Sorry but that plays a big part to why we finished were we did, our team and bench were full of youngsters with no PL experience. We even called Dummett back from loan it was that bad!

    People relax take it easy! Its less than 8 days into the window and everyone is having breakdowns! Lol

  • 5 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    Pawl…the season ended in late May and Ba left in early January and haven’t been replaced yet.

    That means we have had more than a month since the season ended to make sure we were ready do do business. We could even have made deals for British based players as early as June.

    So what are we waiting for; the players we want are not going to get any cheaper!

    …and when has deadline transfers done anyone any good?

  • 6 ToonAussie // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    frustrating, all too frustrating -_-

  • 7 scout // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    No evidence to think otherwise on top 10???
    What everyone strengthening and us just sitting doing nowt, I don’t believe the Uefa cup affected the players, some if them games Beardsley could have kept up, they were dire snails paced crap

  • 8 JackButler // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    pawl250

    We spend to survive not to achieve, Sissoko, Haidara, Gouffran, Debuchy and M’Biwa only came in during the January window as our place in the league was under serious threat, if we had been comfortable in mid table we would have only seen one of those come in.

    Ba may be the only player we have not/did not replace but that is the most important position we needed replaced as Cisse as the only striker of worth at the club is a pathetic state of affairs at a so called ‘Big Club’. But even then our squad is woefully thin and we lack quality is so many positions.

    Regarding our youngster’s, well Biggi is the only one I’d have any real faiith in as he’s already played and done well for the first team. Campbell is untested at this level, Sammi is simply not good enough and Vukic is made of glass and will break down under the riggers of this league, not to mention he has no pace what so ever.

    Yes we pick up far too many injuries last season but the majority of those injuries were picked up in training so there is something seriously wrong with our set up.

    Ashley’s aim is simply to survive in the league and we have little to no ambition to make us a force, teams like West Ham, Norwich and Swansea are showing ambition while we stumble from one PR disaster to another

  • 9 Thump // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    @jesper: “Boring”? Oh god, Kinnear’s going to reinvent the A-bomb and blow us all up and it’s all your fault :(

  • 10 sirjasontoon // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    Who cares what Pardew has to say? He’s a Tool and one of the most inept managers in the premier league.

  • 11 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    Thump…I did say the PR aspect of Newcastle wasn’t boring ;)

  • 12 jazzyp // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:35 PM

    anybody who thinks that nufc are going about there business in the correct manner regarding transfer activity are f@ckin deluded.
    we are following the same pattern as last summer-excuses for this, outbid for him, wages to high blah blah blah. sorry lads but I don’t subscribe to this crap.
    as I said earlier this morning Norwich have signed van winkel-redmond and apparently in negotiations with alderweireld. Swansea are building a quality squad. and the simple fact is you have to build to accumulate, not sit on the fence and let the pl pass you by

  • 13 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    Just because you deem buying new players as strengthening your team does not mean you will improve.

    We bought 5 players, arguably some of the most exciting we will see and have seen in a long time and we finished the same as we started!

    Time will tell, but nothing is going to change for these other clubs supposedly strengthening.

    I still feel we will finish above them!

    Top 10 for me, am sure of it! Mark my words with you wish and laugh at me if I am wrong! But beware this time next year I feel I will be laughing at any doubters

  • 14 Slank // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    Ed,

    Are these the same fans who are waiting for Pardew to speak who didn’t want to hear him speak ever again last season ?

  • 15 Mister Tuff // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    for the Blind Faith Brigade (also known as the Legion of Dishonour) I should point out that our attack last season was in the powder puff category. With no purchases so far of a decent striker(s) – the attack will remain -to all intents and purposes non existent this coming season -ie not many goals scored.
    A good attack also also relieves a bit of pressure on the midfield and defence -obviously.
    Our defence is not right either -fourth worst last season -a tall commanding CB is required -who knows if “Captain Colo” is going to get homesick again or Saylor injured again.
    Two decent strikers -with the ability to burst through defences/out muscle defenders, a winger and a CB and we could very well have a decent season -probably until the players are well and truly Pardewed or up until the behind the scenes shenanigans between Percy and JK come to a head. Old JK will be utilising his holiday time to plot a coup against Percy. Tremendous stuff you could not make it up.

  • 16 JackButler // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    pawl250

    On what basis do you think we will finish above the like’s of Swansea???

    They achieved more in their first season in the Prem than we have in the last 50 years?

  • 17 Tubai // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    @Ed Hope a world class striker is bought to partner cisse

  • 18 Slank // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    Why do some fans think it’s a simple easy process to buy a player. More often than not it is not straightforward.

    Buying a player can, in many respects, equate with a buying a house. There is often a chain in house buying and the same is often the case with players. The selling club often has to make sure that they have a replacement lined up for their departed player.

  • 19 Mister Tuff // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    It is probably true that previously I was not too bothered about what Percy says. He often forgets what he said previously and contradicts himself – as well as throwing in for our pleasure gobbledygook phrases.
    Since the arrival of JK in a sick sort of way I’m looking forward to see what Percy says about JK/Transfers etc.
    I strongly suspect Percy will try to make things look rosy in the garden but will face an onslaught of awkward questions from the hacks. I expect a theatrical performance from Percy which will exceed even the best performances of that famous thesbian Sir Lawrence Olivier.
    I anticipate probably having to rename Percy Parsnip as Percy Pinocchio.

  • 20 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    Pawl
    Did you get mike Ashley to double check that post before you submitted it??
    Deluded doesn’t begin to cover it

    No ones spending? Are you kidding? EVERYONE who finished between 15th and 8th are strengthening to there full potential to ensure there all competing for top ten for the second summer on a row were standing still

  • 21 Slank // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    Jack @ 16

    I would be very surprised if Swansea is not impacted by their participation in the Europa league.

    I believe we will finish between 6th and 10th.

  • 22 wynsleap // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    If any fan thinks we are better off than last season at the moment, they should be changing their sport to tiddleywinks.
    Are some fans so blinded by Ashley that they are starting to accept that no signings will be forthcoming but “don’t worry it will be all OK”.
    As at the beginning of last season we are standing still while others overtook us in recruitment and ambition.
    It wasn’t rocket science that we ended up fifth from bottom in a tense relegation fight.
    Stand still again whilst these same clubs (and others) are continuing to improve their playing staff and we’ll go down this time.
    As for some of these players going to prove their worth this season can anyone enlighten me how they suddenly become world beaters just because 4 months have elapsed?

  • 23 tyneside toon // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    Tubai
    world class striker to partner is going to be either Darren Bent or Shola. forget about shipping more than 5 millions

  • 24 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    Swansea have been up a couple of years ….. But yea

    Swanseas marquee signing right now as Bony is not final is Shelvey woot woot! Go swans!

    It would also be worth noting Michu scored alot less goals second half of the season, maybe because people were aware of him and in doing so when they looked likely to fly away into the top 10 no problem they were very poor and ordinary the second half of the season.

    Time will tell but the passing football is very easy to cope with! PRESS Swansea are not Barcelona they will not pass around you. Sunderland under MON seen this and they couldn’t handle any pressure. They are a very average squad, turned into a decent squad if you allow them to pass with time.

    Without they panic and hoof, time will tell but think they will be close to 10th next season but no reason we cannot finish above them!

    We have a better squad, just they have been taught to play a different style. More attractive but passing across back 4 for 1/3 of the match is hardly groundbreaking! Attack them and you will reap rewards!

    Time will tell. They could finish above us but we will be top 10 still!

  • 25 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    Pawl…I guess anything can happen in football; we did finish 5th the season before last and we finish 5th from the bottom last season!

  • 26 Slank // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    Toon @ 20

    Yes, many teams are now buying players but, ignoring our position at the timeh, how many bought players in the Winter transfer window and quality players at that?

  • 27 JackButler // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Slank

    Swansea will spend to improve their squad in both strength and depth to be able to cope with the extra games of the Europa Cup, we didn’t, they also have a class manager who get’s the best out of each and every player in his squad while we have Pardew.

    Finishing between 6th – 10th is possible but only if we add three or four quality players to our squad and we have far better tactic’s on the field and we find a way to get to the bottom of why the hell we had so many injuries seeings as most of them were picked up on the training ground

  • 28 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Slank
    Then how come other clubs seem to
    A) submit a sensible bid, not £3-4 mil under the asking price, bid gets excepted

    B) Once that bid is accepted, don’t immediately withdraw in a manner that suggests you actually have no idea who it was you were bidding for

    C) Offer player a contract

    D) Player accepts contract has medical done deal all in 1-2 days, or in newcastles case roughly a season until we either sign or get “out priced”

  • 29 jazzyp // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    mister tuff
    couldn’t agree more. one of worse defences in the pl last season. take ba’s goals out of the equation we would have gone down. take the investments made in jan and we would have gone down.
    nufc have no cf cover if cisse was to get a serious injury. look how we struggled with the loss of colo at the back.yes we suffered horrendous injuries and struggled with any form of luck through out the season …but come on guys all of us on this blog can see the drawbacks of how we are being run !!!!!

  • 30 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    …and will that be down to signings? I hardly think so, but our fringe players need to be upgrade and I wouldn’t want to seeus relaying on the youth once again.

    Top that with us still needing to replace Ba and we need a backup player for Debuchy!

  • 31 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    TDS http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/premier-league/transfers.html

    Who is spending exactly?

    West Ham 15m what happens when he inevitably as always gets injured?

    Who else?

    Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd always spend! But who has spent mass amounts?

    Its 6 days into the window and everyone is thinking we won’t spend!

    Arsenal havent bought yet …. Does that mean they won’t?

    Everton haven’t does that mean they wont?

    God! Chill out! If a week remains in the window and we haven’t spent fair enough but 6 days into the window you need to chill!

  • 32 SeanNufc87 // Jul 6, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    palace want gosling acording to SSN.

    take him!

  • 33 tyneside toon // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    if palace offer around 500k let him go

  • 34 Slank // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    Jack,

    Last season the Swansea manager was highly rated but not as highly rated as Pardew was the season before.

    I agree we didn’t recruit enough quality for our campaign in Europe. Will Swansea suffer the same fait as us (and others like Stoke) we will just have to wait and see but I maintain that we will finish higher than them in the league.

  • 35 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    Yep take him! Ill wrap him up and even drive him down if they wish!

    Selling the dead weight right now and I like it!

    Obviously providing we replace them with better players, not that replacing Gosling will be hard ;)

    I cannot believe people are raging about no signings 6 days into the window!

    Remy and De Jong are supposedly in talks with us, that’s what I have heard. Buy them I would love it!

  • 36 jazzyp // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    slank -we have had 6 month to replace demba. do you not think in that time our scouting crew have not submitted there list of targets to the hierarchy
    Ashley could have and should have had all our target sanctioned for purchase instead of the sorry state we are in.
    I hope and pray that this time next week we have 3 or 4 top players in but I doubt it very much !!!

  • 37 JackButler // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    pawl250

    Whether you rate Shelvey or not, he’s a player that Laudrup wanted and their owner went out and signed him, if they do actually sign Bony that constitutes a 20 million plus investment and they wont be finished there.

    We may have a better squad but we do not have the manager to get the best out of them. Swansea will finish above us as they have the right manager, the right owner and the right approach towards the game and how to build

  • 38 tyneside toon // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    pawl:
    the only real concern is if we leave too deep into the window, all the quality might be out of market and we may be left with likes of bent,

  • 39 Slank // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    toon @ 27

    So you have an intimate knowledge of Newcastle’s closely guarded process known to only a few in the club of making and closing bids or are you just making it up?

  • 40 wolfshead@toon // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    pawl

    your very balanced and level headed more posts please :-)

  • 41 JackButler // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    Slank

    There’s no comparison between Laudrup and Pardew, I would say that 99.9% of fans would want Laudrup over Pardew

  • 42 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    Pawl
    Hmmm I’m sorry did I mention the teams in the top 6 errrrrr no
    Oh and arsenal have made a signing
    And west ham have made 4 or 5 and have had a bid accepted on another CF today
    Norwich are active the scum are Swansea are Cardiff are stoke are hull are
    Do they have better squads? No but your missing the major point which looking at your posts you have done for a few weeks, it’s not solely about money it’s about showing some fcuking ambition man!
    Top 10! Ffs man fat Ashley was harping on about bring regulars on the European scene!
    Your obviously comfortable with his lack of ambition as you seem more than happy to go along with whatever’s he’s lowered the targets for the season to

  • 43 wolfshead@toon // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    is laudrup the new KK i wonder

  • 44 SeanNufc87 // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:10 PM

    id rather pardew actually, id have taken an upgrade on pards but dont think laud is better tbh.

  • 45 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    Jack

    Laudraup pretty much demanded the signings or he will leave!

    Who is to say Bony will do well? Remember Alves at Boro he was knocking them in playing in the Dutch league. Where is he now?

    We will see of course, like any signing.

    But ask yourself if Bony is SOOO good or RVW why oh why did the bigger boys in Europe pursue them? Or why did they settle for Swansea and Norwich? ……

    Remy only went to QPR because of injuries and money! PEA went to Dortmund CL finalists!

    Why does RVW such an amazing player end up at NORWICH, I can maybe accept Swansea this season being in EL, Michael Laudrup legend he is.

    Yet people are going insane. If we get Remy or De Jong or lord behold both we would have not only spent 20m in Jan, which could easily have been more for what grade players we bought and had time to adapt now, we would have arguably spent 15-18m on them! That’s 40m nearly in 8 month!! So chill out!

  • 46 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    Slank
    Making what up exactly?

    It’s been confirmed by other clubs on numerous occasions we have bid well below the asking price, we’ve then signed them a window later for the sake of a couple of mil

    It’s also confirmed by dekka we’d rather wait until there contracts expire unless needs must

    So which bit was I making up?
    How come every other team can conduct themselves and get business done and we end up looking chumps?

  • 47 wolfshead@toon // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    pawl

    i wasnt being sarcastic lol theres too many cpl jones/pt frasers on here haha

  • 48 wynsleap // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    Pawl250 – Arsenal have already signed Sanogo and are about to sign Higuain for around £25mill.
    Everton are giving a medical to Kone at the moment.
    I too agree with selling some dead weight but sell it all without any replacements is just too stupid for words.
    The sale of Perch for example was totally unnecessary but don’t worry we are waiting for Vuckic to come back for his usual 6 week season. God help us.

  • 49 tyneside toon // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    pawl
    RVW wants to play regular football for a season in EPL to settle. He will get that at Norwich and after a season he will move to a bigger club

  • 50 Slank // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    jazzyp @ 34

    My understanding is that Newcastle had agreed with Remy and his club but allowed him to go to London before going on to the North East. What the club didn’t expect was for QPR to step in holding and bribe him away.

    I suspect the club has a list of players who they would like and like you was surprised that they didn’t initiate Plan B. We may never know.

    I think the club were (over?) confident of getting Aubameyang but when the runners up in the Champions League Final came knocking we couldn’t compete. I doubt money had anything to do with it. It was a successful club verses a club without any success.

  • 51 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    TDS we cannot match and never will match

    Man City
    Man Utd
    Chelsea
    Liverpool
    Tottenham
    Arsenal

    That’s top 6

    They all have more money, European football!

    Its called being realistic we will finish 7th – 10th this season, I believe it.

    And that is as high as we can do unless the top 6 teams have a bad season like they did when we finished 5th …..

    If you think we can be higher we will need to spend 50m plus …. And sorry but it would not help the club at all! It needs to happen progressively over years and years!

    Not 3-4 seasons! We need to do an Arsenal but Cabs for 4m sell for 20m, buy 2 decent players sell, buy 3-4 players until you have a decent blend of not just good players but a self sustained club also!

    Your way we will be in debt and not be allowed to play in Europe!

  • 52 JackButler // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    pawl250

    RVW and Boney are both players that would greatly improve our squad, but why did they end up at Norwich and Swansea???

    Simply because both those clubs have and show ambition.

    Why would we sign Remy when he has to report back in September on allegations of rape? He could have all charges dropped or he could be charged and sentenced so why would we talk to a player who could end up in jail???

    If you are happy with mid table football then fine, I have no issue with you for accepting that, but I want more from my club and the billionaire owner we have, if he has no ambition for us other than to simply survive then I cannot and will not stand behind him and the pathetic way he is running our club.

    Pardew’s 8 year contract and the appointment of Kinnear are not what I want from the club

  • 53 SeanNufc87 // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    wynsleap

    if they are so close to a deal why are SSN saying they are no where near completing a deal?

  • 54 Slank // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    Toon @ 43

    Did we ‘end up looking chumps’ when the Winter transfer window closed?

  • 55 JackButler // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    Slank @50

    Yes we did as they were all panic buys to stop us falling out of the league because we failed to do anything last summer

  • 56 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Pawl
    Once again your brining the top 6 into it not me, never said about out spending them, but we’ve shown once we can get in amongst them with sensible investment and we’ve also shown what happens when you stand still
    The bloke needs to show some ambition this window end of

  • 57 Slank // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    Jack @ 38

    ‘..There’s no comparison between Laudrup and Pardew,

    I agree as I have looked at the table of winners of the Premier League Manager of The Year and I don’t see Laudrup’s name.

  • 58 SeanNufc87 // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    jackbutler

    no they werent, sissoko had been scouted for ages and his contract was running out,

    gouffran was the same, we snapped them up at the perfect time.

    mbiwa, again was scouted for ages and we made the move at the right time.

    haidara we didnt NEED him he was one for the future but hes good enough now.

    doom mongering is all your doing

  • 59 SeanNufc87 // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    slank

    not to mention his highest achievement to date is the quarter final of europe… im sure i know another manager that did that.

  • 60 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    Can’t recall Swansea paying 28m last season.
    Anita 6m
    Bigi 2m
    Haidara 2m
    Sissoko 3m
    Mbiwa 7m
    Gouffran 2m
    Debuchy 6m

    We sold
    Ba 3.5m (3.5 went to Ba)
    Foster 2m
    Best 4m

    So net spend of roughly 18m!

    Then we have sold Perch 17m!

    Name a team that has spent 17m below the top 6 last season?

    We have no ambition though …..

    Andy Carroll 15m is the only major signing, and West Ham probably won’t spend much more, unless selling.

    Norwich 7m RVW, and Redmond was it 4-5m they won’t be doing much more business unless selling.

    Swansea EL, they sold Graham for 5m, buying bony for 12m is merely a replacement if it comes off! 5m on Shelvey is a massive buy! He probably won’t even play.

  • 61 JackButler // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    SeanNufc87

    Yes they were as they were targeted for the summer and not January, the club panicked at our position, that they created insistently, and pushed them through early, hence they panicked at us being relegated. I’m not saying that the players were not scouted or even planned signings the timing of the signing was a panic reaction from the club.

    So no ‘doom mongering is all your doing’ as you put it

  • 62 Slank // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    pawl250 @ 47

    Totally agree with you.

    The top six is almost preordained before the season begins, certainly the top four. We should finish between 6th and 10th.

  • 63 JackButler // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    Slank

    If you want to go that way then fine

    Pardew – Johnstone’s Paint Trophy

    Laudrup – Brøndby
    Danish Superliga (1): 2004–05
    Danish Cup (2): 2002–03, 2004–05
    Danish Supercup (1): 2002
    Swansea City
    Football League Cup (1): 2012–13

  • 64 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:35 PM

    TDS

    The ONLY reason we finished 5th was because Chelsea and Liverpool had an off season!

    Its rare, only need to look at the past end tables but if Chelsea played to the standard they have and are then we would have 6th, possibly 7th if Liverpool werent playing under King Kenny.

    That’s as good as we can do when other teams play normal. Its the truth accept it we are not a “big” club we are a PL club, we a big following but in respect to the fans we are a bigger club than most PL teams. We just cannot cope with the bigger PL teams in the top 6!

    Difference between 16th and 8th last seasons was 6-7? Points if I remember correctly!

    Yet we are way behind! ….. Considering our injuries, that’s not too bad!

  • 65 Slank // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:35 PM

    Jack @ 55

    ‘..Yes we did as they were all panic buys to stop us falling out of the league because we failed to do anything last summer.. ‘

    True, but weren’t they excellent panic buys?

    Hopefully we can match them this summer possibly not in quantity but definately in quality.

  • 66 colwell // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    Hahaha brilliant I see some on here are keeping the Newcastle tag for having the most deluded fans in the country going.

  • 67 Slank // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    pawl250 @ 64

    I would say we are a ‘big club’ but we are not a ‘successful club’.

  • 68 Jail for Ashley // Jul 6, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    Pawl,
    You’re dead right about never matching Spurs, not with Ashley in charge anyway.

  • 69 daztoon // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    Looks very much like we are waiting on a big offer to come in for Cabaye to fund any incoming players this summer.
    I would take no incoming players if Ashley was to sell and f@ck off

  • 70 Thump // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    @pawl: Don’t forget the wages that would be freed up.

  • 71 numba9 // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    This time last year we knew we had another comp to compete in and ba would prob leave we didn’t identify a replacement and let loven best etc leave poor management and dilly dallied with gettin debuchy mbwyaetc@. Nearly cost up dear we was lucky to get them in Jan we need to act now to get quality on board otherwise we have no hope but I can’t help think the circus clowns will put most of coming to us

  • 72 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    We have a good squad, I think 3-4 points would have had us in top 10 last season! To think solving the injuries issues we could not get 3-4 more points this season compared to last seasons total is not unrealistic or deluded.

    I said 12th last season, that was less than 3 points from being achieved I was laughed at from our ‘deluded’ fans saying CL!

    Saying top 10, or more accurate 7th to 10th is acheivable!

    Even with our current squad. Think we need 2-3 players. ST / CAM / CB

    Our squad would be

    Krul
    Elliot
    Alnwick

    Debuchy
    Tavernier
    ?
    Colocinni
    Mbiwa
    Williamson
    STaylor
    Street
    Good
    Santon
    Haidara
    Ferguson
    RTaylor

    Tiote
    Anita
    Cabaye
    Sissoko
    Gouffran
    Jonas
    Ben Arfa
    Gosling
    Obertan
    Marveaux
    Bigirmana
    Vuckic
    Sammy
    Amalfitano
    ? DE JONG?

    Cisse
    Shola
    Campbell
    ? REMY?

  • 73 Rotonda heights // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    Anyone who would take Pardew over Laudrup seriously need their bumps felt.

    Pardew’s one fluke season in god knows how many can’t overshadow an otherwise extremely mediocre and average overall record where Pardew has very rarely hit the heights.

    Laudrup is on the up, plays great football and is a genuinely good guy and was talked in terms of Real Madrid one day. Can’t see Pardew getting a call from the Bernabeu any time soon.

  • 74 Rotonda heights // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    Laudrup has only had one season in the premiership and has already done something Pardew hasn’t in 15 years actually win a proper cup.

    Yes Laudrup may get found out next season like Pardew was again this season finishing in 16th place. One thing is for sure this squad under Laudrup would be a hell of a better watch than under a man who spends 4 days out of 5 solely on defense training and still conceded 68 goals.

  • 75 Levi // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    Slank

    i agree. every one who knows football knows that we are a big club just without the trophies

  • 76 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    I would take Laudrup over Pardew!

    But its important to remember the play style of Swansea is NOT Laudrups doing!

    It is Martinez, followed by Rogers who both made Swansea play the way they do. He merely inherited it, added Michu, excellent buy and managed to score more goals.

    As soon as people were aware of Michu Swansea lost and drew more games, note the second half of the season! They were poor in comparison.

    I personally feel they won’t last long in EL, we will see and it will as always effect them in the PL.

    Accept it, unless you have a massive squad I.e Manchester/Chelsea like, you will not be able to compete without performance dropping in one or the other!

    We will see! But I hope we sign a striker and a creative midfielder, then replace any future leavers with better players.

  • 77 GeordieTwo // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    For what it’s worth tads mate I totally agree with you in your argument with pawl. We are showing the same lack of ambition we showed last summer. And what did that get us? It got us 16th place as I recall. I think it is total chaos at Newcastle right now. Kinnear doesn’t have a clue as to what to do. He doesn’t know the European players well enough yet he wants to show Carr who the real boss is. Let’s see how that works out.

  • 78 daztoon // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    Laudrup is pure class and showed what a great manager can do with average players.
    We have Pardumb enough said

  • 79 Levi // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    Rotonda
    like laudrup and think he is a great young coach but hr had also only had one season in the prenierleague so how come pardews best season was a fluke but your sure laudeup is a great manage

  • 80 GeordieTwo // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    I understand some of paw1250′s arguments tads. They are appearing on many blogs. They seem like the last desperate arguments of those who don’t realize what a disaster Kinnear’s hiring is and will continue to be. We are a laughingstock again now around the league for a good reason. The man is either going senile or his ego is even bigger than Ashley’s (hard to believe I know).

  • 81 Levi // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    Sorry for the typos. New phone

  • 82 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    We are a bigger club than most PL clubs, but a “BIG” club is Madrid, Juventus, Munich, Man Utd, City, Chelsea, Barca ….. Even Liverpool from its past and worldwide following!

    If we are big, they are MASSIVE! or GIGANTIC!

    We are a slighty higher than standard size club, with a larger than normal following. We are bigger than Sunderland but they are in a similar mold.

    Anyone who is honest would know and see this. That is why we are classed as deluded as our fans say we are a big club, yet compared to likes of Barca which are classed as big we are average!

    Accept it! Perhaps in the past we were big, but so were Blackburn, Villa, Leeds, Inter ….. You see me point!

    Deluded or not no one can say we have an average following, we are very passionate but the club is not as big as our hearts say it is.

  • 83 daztoon // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    Pawl
    Shut up you plank so our style of play isn`t Pardew`s either.
    Laudrup just stands by in training and says play the way Martinez showed you

  • 84 Levi // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    Newcastle attract alot more fans then other teams that’s why people say we are a big club. Say for arguments sake every team in England had a 200,000 seater stadium( unrealistic i know) i don’t think many teams would get as many fans in it as us.

  • 85 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    pawl250….so you say the playing style Swansea play is not Laudrup’s doing?

    …so Laudrup is just a puppet of his presesours? Have you seen have he likes his team to play when he was Ass. Manager for the Danisg Nationalteam, when he coached Brøndby, Getafe, Moscow or Mallorca?

    Swansea’s style of play is much more direct than what is use to be, and most of the passing takes place on the oppositions half side.

    This nonsense is a misconception started by people who doesn’t know the difference between different formations and styles.

  • 86 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    pawl250…go watch either Liverpool or Wigan (well Everton from now on) and he will see for yourself!

    …now I appreciate the football Liverpool play and especially the football style of Wigan and Swansea, but the are were different.

  • 87 GeordieTwo // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    Remember the days in the 5th place season when Pardew was being mentioned as a possible England manager? I don’t hear too much of that now. Nor will we in the future I would think. His next position will be at the back of the dole queue.

  • 88 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    *were = very

  • 89 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    People I am not defending Kinnear in any form, his recent statements in the press are laughable!

    And yes he makes us look bad. I agree he may or may not be the right man, I like the idea of a footballing type in DoF but Kinnear is not the man for me. We will see what happens though.

    Last season we didn’t sign in summer, surely we learn from our mistakes. But to complain 6 days into the window is sorry to say PATHETIC lol

    I just dont understand why people feel we should have signed everyone we want to buy by now. No one knows what is and what has happened behind the scenes in terms of transfers. But 6 days judgement is just stupid! Wait and see! That is all, complaining does not help!

    As for people saying I defend Kinnear, I have done no such thing.

    I merely think we will sign players, we have a good squad, good enough to finish top 10, that includes 10th!! More to the point 7th to 10th!

    My opinion of course but people should relax and time will tell how we do!

  • 90 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    Daz look at Swansea last season, look at Swansea the season before the style is the same!!

    Pardew has been our manager for 2 seasons and abit, he has his own stamp. After Hughton though the team played very similar to Hughton style.

    Laudrup has had one season, Pardew finished 5th his first season, higher than Swansea! Ok he won the League cup but what is the bigger accomplishment these days?

    Birmingham won the LC a couple years ago!

    Name the last team to get 5th outside the standard top 6? 7? Everton who have been constant? Beyond that who?

    Pardew is an awful manager but managed to take a team to 5th, a better accomplishment!!! By far!

    Laudrup is a better manager though! By far!

  • 91 daztoon // Jul 6, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    But its important to remember the play style of Swansea is NOT Laudrups doing!

    Pawl250 must be a love child of Kinnear that is a class comment.

  • 92 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    Actually Wigan had a very good passing style, and at times unlucky! Martinez did remarkable to win the FA cup with half the team Swansea had!

    Liverpool actually tried doing a Swansea, you will find that the first half the season Skrtel and Agger are not comfortable on the ball and made poor passes allowing easy goals for opposition.

    Rogers even came out and said it was his fault asking players to play that way!

    As for Laudrup Swansea have not changed much, the only reason they are more direct is because Michu is a better target man than Graham and Sinclair both who were Swanseas most advanced players the previous season.

    Passing the ball still very much happens in the back 4 of their own half …. Watch the games u will see that is true!

    Not much different. We will see the test and resolve of Laudraup this season, 1 season does not defy a manager!

    Kinnear managed to get Wimbeldon in a decent position 1 season, hence his manager of the year …. Enough said!

  • 93 daztoon // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    @Pawl
    Pardew`s first season as manager in the prem he finished 9th with west ham so same as Laudrup but he also won the league cup.So you will find there is a big difference

  • 94 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    Levi

    Based on fans

    Barca
    Madrid
    Dortmund
    Munich
    City
    Utd
    Arsenal
    Chelsea?
    Spurs
    Liverpool
    And a few more German clubs will probably get more fans than us.

    We are unique as we are a slightly above average club that is not successful like those mentioned yet still manage to attract fans week in week out and won’t b far behind those listed.

    My opinion, but we are not BIG!

  • 95 Ketsbaia9 // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:10 PM

    Man Utd are looking at splashing out £15m for Tiote, with Carrick heading to Hull for £2m.

    Alderweireld is signing for a top club in Norwich.

    Benteke is off to Swansea as they have missed out on Bony.

    We’re signing the veteran Denilson.

  • 96 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:11 PM

    That’s a moot point, his first season he won this or that.

    Does not mean he will do the same next season! He won a league cup, Alex Mcleish did it with a squad half as good as Swansea is he a better manager?

    He also played Arsenal in final not Bardford!

    Does that mean he is a better manager? no!

    As stated your argument is stupid. Laudrup is a good manager but he is not amazing!

    He is good, Pardews 5th acheivement is arguably better than winning a league cup, but we would all prefer the League cup for a cup! How sad is that!

  • 97 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    Where did Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger place in their first season?

    Does that mean he is a better manager than them?

    Stupid argument!

  • 98 lesh // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    Swansea and Norwich’s spending ain’t based on ambition, it’s aimed at perm survival, especially in Norwich’s case.

    However. We don’t even appear to have that aim in mind and that’s the worrying thing.

    Ne’er mind, Joe’s got everything in hand…. Errrr, well

  • 99 roe997 // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    Pawl that list is way out.utd would be top even liverpool above city.if we were stable and successful we would be up there no doubt.

  • 100 roe997 // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    Spurs wouldnt either

  • 101 GeordieTwo // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    Here’s a possible scenario for this summer and early next season: Kinnear, being a football genius (as he has told us many times) decides to show Ashley that he can improve the club without spending much money (which Ashley will love). So Joe sits back and watches a large number of signings be made in the early days of the window, smug in his own self-confidence. Late in the window Kinnear brings in Bent for 5M and a backup RB nobody’s ever heard of (including Carr) for 500K. We enter the season and quickly drop into the bottom 6. Ashley is furious and demands answers. Kinnear shakes his head and tells Ashley this is what he feared most. Pardew is incompetent and Joe will have to step in immediately. Lo and behold we have Joe back as manager.

  • 102 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    Lesh

    Swansea because they EL. We should have done the same but didn’t!!

    Norwich I agree, and even those who have signed does not guarantee PL safety!

    I personally think RVW will flop! Never wanted him in Newcastle. I maybe proved wrong time will tell!

  • 103 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    Roe

    I didn’t not post in order just merely a list of teams that would have a bigger attendance than us in a 200k seater stadium!

    Hell we rarely fill our 52k seater these days!

  • 104 lesh // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    • perm? Let’s try perm survival.

  • 105 Premiership Manager // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    Ashley will asset strip the club until he has recouped his investment. This means buying good promising or established players on a shoe string budget and selling them when the price is right.

    Carroll and Ba were first and my guess is Cabaye, HBA, Santon, Tiote and Krull would have gone this year if they had performed and the season hadn’t back fired on us, dropping their potential resale values through the floor.

    Not surprised he’s fuming and that there has been no further investment, other than to keep us up as his plan back fired, just as it did with the naming rights for SJP.

    JFK has simply been in to get the players performing so that their resale value increases in-line with Ashleys business model. Make no mistake, he thought he’d make some quick sales and recoup his investment and didn’t count on last seasons results and that must hurt.

  • 106 Rotonda heights // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    Look at laudrup’s overall record

    Much better record in far less time.
    Not a stupid point at all.

    People putting down Laudrup but bigging up Pardew over one fluke season. Crazy

  • 107 Ketsbaia9 // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    Feel sorry for Lisicki today. On another day, she would’ve won.

  • 108 daztoon // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    @Pawl
    the only thing stupid is this.
    But its important to remember the play style of Swansea is NOT Laudrups doing! and YOU said it LOL.
    Now you have to bring other manager`s into it because as you have proved you are wrong as usual.
    Thank you and goodnight.

  • 109 lesh // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    pawl250. Maybe Laudrup’s thinking is maintaining prem status as well as playing in the EL?

    In any event, Swansea’s adding to its squad whereas we didn’t and look what nearly happened!

  • 110 Rotonda heights // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    Dortmund’s model is very similar. it’s just they employ good staff in management positions. happy to sell player a their peak for huge money and re-invest in up and coming youngsters who are developed far better than ours are by good coaches.

  • 111 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    OMFG I am not bigging up Pardew merely pointing out the fact that Pardew had 1 good season!

    Is it not out the realm of possibility Laudrup may have 1 good season followed by 1 bad?

    Jesus! Try reading!

    I have never said Pardew is superior, infact I said Laudrup is superior before so you only sound even More ridiculous by jumping to conclusions!

  • 112 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    Daztoon

    Wow you just got totally handed and throw your toys out the pram!

    Chill out, the whole argument is pathetic, 1st season, 8th season, 20th season it does not matter! Your argument is basing a manager is as good as his first PL season? You are not willing to accept like Pardew he may have 1 good season followed by one poor one, and EL won’t help!

    I also do not think the Swansea style has changed much, its very much the same as Rogers first season in PL.

    If we got Laudrup tomorrow we would not play the style Swansea do within months, possibly even a year of the take over! It takes time!

    Di Canio proved this, he stated it would take beyond the remainder of season and possibly next to change Sunderland style of play to
    Suit his own!

    But no you of course of mastermind that you are can Football manager it and change eveything in a day!

  • 113 TorqToon // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:31 PM

    Are we still on pardew vs laudrup??!!!

    This was going on earlier and seems it’s not progressed any further.

  • 114 GeordieTwo // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:31 PM

    Asset stripping is going to be difficult when Ashley is an idiot as far as football is concerned PM @105. Very clever in sports tat, abysmal in football. Hiring Kinnear to restore the club so that he can strip its assets? This should be hilarious. Keeping the same manager and coaching staff who finished 16th is very clever as well. A genius businessman (self-made billionaire) but moron as a football owner. Only we could get so lucky.

  • 115 GeordieTwo // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    Is there a DoF of the year award? I want to get my vote in for Kinnear now. It’s very early of course but look what he’s done for us already. We’re right back in the newspapers and other media. Joe is constantly asked about his position and really impresses with his answers. There’s nothing like a firm hand at the helm.

  • 116 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    GeordieTwo

    Where did Moyes finish in his years in charge?

    I am not sure, but I don’t think he started great and over time had a top 10 succession for years!

    I don’t think this is the case for Pardew, I feel he will always be average or below. But one can hope lol

  • 117 Ketsbaia9 // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    Both finalist are attractive in my opinion. Nothing wrong with a curvy figure.

  • 118 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:42 PM

    What is worrying for me is that there is zero planning.

    I do believe we will bring players in, but as the window strolls on the quality dwindles down of what is available.

    The last thing we need is more people who do not speak English. We are already bedding in five players in that respect.

    Questions have to be asked why we continue to drag our feet unless it fits Mike’s agenda of staying up.

    We are being ran poorly with everything connected to the footballing side of the club. There is no escaping that fact. We could be better, so why are we not improving it?

    I’v got respect for the financial footing we are in, but only suited Mike Ashley’s agenda so that he did not have to fund the club year after year.

    What is the point of having Carr and Joe Kinnear if you are not going to maximise their potential with backing and money. This squad has been inadequate for along time now and found wanting on many occasions. Should it really take five years to build a squad that is suitable for this league? Why is the work and planning that should of been since January not coming into effect at the first opportunity.

    The Kone bid showed a lack of planning.

    The question is simple.

    Do we have a plan?

    It does not look like it, so people are concerned.

    What on earth was that Kone bid?

  • 119 TorqToon // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    Pete Graves (@PeteGravesSky) tweeted at 6:34 PM on Sat, Jul 06, 2013:
    Transfer spec: Gosling to #cpfc ,Remy to #nufc ,Saylor to #qpr in exchange. N’Koulou to #nufc possible replacement. Latest – #ssntransfers
    (https://twitter.com/PeteGravesSky/status/353567707834224640)

  • 120 daztoon // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    @pawl
    You talk utter b@llocks and as usual another long post full of drivel.
    You started by saying Swansea’s style isn’t Laudrups that itself is laughable and proves you know tosh about football.
    Then you state Pardews first full season in the prem he finished 5th another load of drivel
    We have some very good technical players who I’m sure would adapt to a Laudrup style very quickly.

  • 121 TorqToon // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    Apparently gos to palace is nearly done. Fee agreed.

  • 122 wolfshead@toon // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    prodigy

    i think they were waiting for a should we buy kone? poll on here haha

  • 123 jonobbad // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:48 PM

    Imo
    pawl and his views are the worst out of the lot.
    to expect 12th after we finish 5th and to laugh at the fans that wanted to improve really gets to me. Give me a delusional nutter anyday. Hang on arent they tge same thing….

    you and other fans like you need to go support the mackems. Go and spread your lack of ambition to them. And take fat mike with you

  • 124 GeordieTwo // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    Paw1250 people often bring up Moyes and even Ferguson as having bad seasons along the way. But Pardew is not a newcomer. He is a veteran manager who has shown the same trend wherever he went. One good season then a dismal one followed by a sacking. We’ll be the next club to add that to his list of failures I’m afraid. I’m more concerned about the lack of any brain at the top for us. Ashley has shown himself to be a complete idiot as far as football is concerned over and over again.

  • 125 Ketsbaia9 // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    It seems like all the people that’s leaving went on holiday together. Think they already knew they were going. Seen a pic of Gutierrez, Shola, Perch and Gosling together.

  • 126 Belfast // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:50 PM

    Bet you Gosling goes to Palace stays fit all season and doe’s well lol

    Just our f***** luck like.

  • 127 Levi // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:50 PM

    Thanks torq sumin new to talk about lol. I cant see satlor going though. Both kinnear and pardew like saylor.

  • 128 Ketsbaia9 // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    How much do you think he’ll go for? £2m?

  • 129 TorqToon // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    Kets – You think Guti will go? Coz that might be done purely to force pards Out. Can’t see it myself.

  • 130 Ketsbaia9 // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    Abeid looked a lot more promising than Gosling from what I seen.

  • 131 Belfast // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    Can’t see Taylor being up for that like.

    Plus do we not need a certain number of home grown players in the squad ??

    Perch, Simpson, Gosling all gone, all home grown

  • 132 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    Wolfshead,

    Ahh hahaha. ;)

  • 133 Thump // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    Apparently QPR want Saylor for Remy… anybody heard this?

  • 134 Thump // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    …probably should have refreshed the page before I posted that hah

  • 135 Belfast // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:55 PM

    Thump you’re always behind no change there. lol

  • 136 geordiesteve520 // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    Anyone just listened to SSN apparently QPR want Saylor and are willing to set up a swap deal with Remy. Wow.

  • 137 Levi // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    I really cant see Saylor going. Pards wants premier league experience and not only does he have premier league experience but he has experience of being relegated

  • 138 TorqToon // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    Levi – could all be Twitter rubbish but Pete graves is quite clued up.

    Some say its a Saylor switch, others say it’s willo involved in the swap. But if nkoulou WAS to come in, then he would be an upgrade on Stevie t.

  • 139 Belfast // Jul 6, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    I actually think they’re trying every trick in the book to undermine Pardew so he quits.

    That’s what it looks like to me.

  • 140 toonking // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    with fans like rotunda daztoon and catchy on this blog their is absolutely no hope of ever having a decent manager coming to Newcastle.
    you can play the best football in the world but passing does not win games it is goals that do.
    if you want skill and passing you need speed who is fast for us obatan anyone else NO so what happens we get closed down easy.
    a manager does not have the controls in his hand that allows him to move players.
    as for the term big club we are nothing more than a high attendance football team.
    their was as many teams from London in the premier league last year as their is from the whole of the north east in all 5 divisions. so it’s no wonder we get such a big crowd.
    if pardew is at fault why do you not like the fact Ashley is not strengthening the squad because if the squad is really that good and pardew makes it bad then Ashley is not doing anything wrong
    if the players that carr picks are so good why are the CL team not coming in for them all like they did with pea
    if HBA debuchy sissoko and anita are so good why are they not getting linked away like cabaye?

    ed do a thread where every single blogger states how then think Swansea will do this year then at the end of the season you should have a thread for people to state what caused their prediction not to come out as what they thought. and if laudrup is still a decent manager or not

  • 141 TorqToon // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    Thump – C’mon mate! Get with the programme!!!!

    Just joking my friend! :-)

  • 142 Belfast // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    I’d rather get rid of Jonas and Shola.

  • 143 colwell // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    Remy for Saylor and replace with N’Koulou, ummmm YES please.

    PLEASE be true for once.

  • 144 stuart no9 // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    pardew will do as he is told or he will get sacked, what i think is the plan anyway. he has no bottle and joke queer will p/ss all over him

  • 145 TorqToon // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    Colwell – I’m with you there mate.

    Could be rubbish like, but you never know.

  • 146 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    Good news on Remy and N’koulou . Don’t want Taylor sold like. Geordie Lad and clearly loves the club, perfect back up IMO.

  • 147 Thump // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    Haha cheeky buggers!

    Can’t see it happening, though. Saylor always thinks he’s off to Arsenal.

  • 148 pawl250 // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    I was actually being realistic when I said 12th, why because of EL.

    I also understood that 5th was a fluke, naturally some people expected CL, maybe if our best right back was not Simpson I may have expected improvement?

    Also our starting left back was Rtaylor woot woot! Screams CL!

    We never had a chance. Hoping this season we aim top 10 and a cup, lack of ambition?

    That’s every Newcastle fans wet dream! Also its realistic, even a Mickey Mouse league cup would be good enough!

    ….. As for Daz …. I love how Pardews first full season was 5th, his first half season was not…. Drivel I think not.

    I also do not think we would play Swansea style football anytime soon, even with a different manager, which I would happily accept over Pardew.

    Also I merely stated Moyes and if you read below I said it probably would never happen for Pardew so again another that doesn’t read.

    I think some people don’t read or make up what they want to post crap about people.

    On topic STaylor I would keep, but I would happily exchange for Remy! Why? Because Mbiwa and colo should be our main centre backs next season. He is injury prone and he is overrated by the average Geordie as he is a local lad.

    Gosling out yes please?

    And who the flook is NKoulou? Never heard of him?

  • 149 colwell // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    I’d be surprised if Saylor would move to QPR but would get more money, he is better than the championship thats Willo’s level.

    N’Koulou would start if he came as would Colo where does M’biwa fit in? He is way to good to be on the bench?

  • 150 toonking // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    pardew is basically stuck between a rock and a hard point.
    he has fans who are too mind washed with them few years with SRB and the two 2nd place finish KK had and therefore think Newcastle are a big club when we have not yet won a trophy for 55 years and we are lucky to get 1 fixture that sky will show live.
    then ofcourse he has the difficulty with managing to get a squad to suit him because our owner is unlikely to provide much money.

  • 151 tom68 // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    Has anyone one noticed that pawl 250 posts in a very similar style to TDS. They both post utter statistical drivel with no ambition. Let’s all wait and see what happens they say. F*****g tossers the pair of them.
    Personally I think they are the same sad pr#ck

  • 152 Levi // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    One reason i cant see Saylor going is because he has England ambitions. I don’t think he will get a call up for the world cup anyway but not sure he would go to a championship club just incase he is in roys mind.

  • 153 TorqToon // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    Colwell – reading between the lines (and I hate that phrase), I if there are doubts on colo’s commitment or mental state for the season ahead.

    Debuchy – N’Koulou – Mbiwa – Santon

    Mouth watering…!

  • 154 colwell // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    Gosling to Palace after fee agreed? How the f**k did we manage to get money for him?

    with Perch and Gosling out and much,much better cover in Anita and Bigi this makes sense. Gosling will never be a world beater after his injury, no pace and awful passing does not make for a good CM.

    We seem to be doing a job on cutting the dead wood down couple more to go and replaced thngs may be looking up.

  • 155 toonking // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    steven taylor at this moment in time is one player who I would hate to see go because the state we are in at the minute the last thing you want is to loose those who will put what every effort to keep to club going while the chaos continues.
    players such as cabaye HBA anita debuchy mbiwa and marvo etc will just give up if things stay like this.

  • 156 GeordieTwo // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    Would we go for Remy before the court case and give up Saylor as well? I doubt it. Very unlikely. Could see Gosling leaving though.

  • 157 daztoon // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    Toonking
    You need speed to play a passing skilful game what a joke it’s idiots like you that hold the club back.Your so used to hoofball you have no idea about football.A passing skill game requires movement not speed.

    Pawl
    Pardews first season in the prem he finished 9th with West Ham you just don’t get it do you.Utter boring drivel from someone who knows nothing about football.

  • 158 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    How anyone can even take a pop at Pardew at this point in time is beyond me.

    What has unfolded this past few weeks is exactly the major problem at this football club and why we are struggling for any kind of stability.

    Unbacked managers until it matters, inept structure and planning.

    There is a filtering process and the man behind it all is hiding in the shadows. It’s no good.

  • 159 colwell // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    Torq

    That is some backline and he likes the ball to feet so would fit in perfect.

  • 160 TorqToon // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    Toonking – having watched Yanga several times, and for several seasons, meeting him many times away from the pitch, he is one player who would never give up on the cause.

    He is the closest thing to a Geordie in respect of passion and commitment, whilst NOT being a Geordie, that we have!

    (not even sure that’s great English, but you get what I mean! Maybe too much cider on a sunny day!!) :-)

  • 161 Levi // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    Toon prodigy

    i totally agree mate. Every knows the club lacks stability in the boardroom but yet they want new coaching staff as well? Ludicrous

  • 162 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    Soooooooo
    Today’s transfer deals/rumours for the toon
    Gosling to palace (will tubby pass a medical )
    QPR want Taylor plus small amount for remy
    NUFC will target n’kalou as his replacement
    NUFC are actively looking to move on any player with 1 year or less left on there contract
    Anyone know who’s in the last year of there contracts? Shola? Willo? Stevie Taylor?

  • 163 Levi // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    For me our strongest backline is mbiwa and colo anyway so if Saylor goes it wont be the worst thing. But i do like the fact that he is a local lad that gives his all.

  • 164 fog on the tyne // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    Sorry for the blue lads, but who the f**k are swansea city compared to the might of newcastle united. Since when have swansea been a top tier team? 2 years!!!!! F them!
    those of you who think their a better team cos they won a cup last season, and they play pretty football can fuck off to south wales, your not welcome in my club!!!!! Ps gor same reason why does this make laudrup a class manager????? Ok seems to have nous of producing good footballing sides but other than carling cup what else has he produced in his career? I me managerial career, cos he is in my top 5 players of all time, incase i get any know-it-alls jumping on my back.

    Sorry for outburst lads but fuming at some of comments on here tonight!!!!

    Rant over!!!

  • 165 toonking // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    dazy it’s idiot like you who actually hold us back
    does a child do A level maths right away?
    did people say andy murrey was a rubbish tennis play after not winning a grand slam right away
    is kevin keegan a rubbish manager for throwing away a 12 point lead he had mid season
    were city happy with Roberto leaving last year
    does arsenal fans want wenger sacked
    have Liverpool did any better with Rodgers than they did with daglish.

    everything in life takes time and basically every manager is as bad as each other if you want to win a trophy because they are all stupid and player weakened team even morino rafa laudrup will do no different what a managers main aim with any team outside the big 6 is to basically remain in the premier league.
    top 4 is Chelsea Manchester united city arsenal spurs and maybe Liverpool
    but the rest is nothing more that just a little bit extra money so most owners don’t care who is manager they want survival that is a FACT because you see every year managers near to the bottom get the sack and very few teams playing any strength in cups incase they do a wigan.

  • 166 stuart no9 // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    toon@ 157 it is not just ashlys fault – it is the complete trio of ash joke and pards , they are ALL incompetant at their jobs they ALL need to disappear .

  • 167 GeordieTwo // Jul 6, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    It would make the gods weep. We are so inept at the top. What have we done to deserve Ashley/Kinnear after Ashley/Llambias? The club must have a curse on it. I’m still hoping the players are ashamed of last season and give it their all. Come on lads make us proud. Somebody in the club should.




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