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Newcastle Target Chose Dortmund And Lower Fee Over Magpies

11:49 pm, Sunday, July 7th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 92 Comments

There are reports in France tonight that Newcastle’s top transfer target, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, turned down other clubs, including Newcastle, to join European Champions League finalists Borussia Dortmund, and it seems St. Etienne accepted less money from Dortmund than other clubs had offered for the striker.

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Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang – chose Dortmund

The news is in But! Football club, which reports on French football and their report is here, and this is the translation via Google Translate:

“ASSE – Why the club has refused better deals for Aubameyang”

“We have known since Thursday, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang will wear the jersey of Borussia Dortmund next season. The club finalist of the last Champions League has spent € 13M (€ 2M bonus) to secure the services of the International Gabon.”

“In doing so, leaders St. Etienne kept their word: they had indeed promised to let PEA choose his destination, from the moment the offer was made. The 23 year-old has favored the sporting challenge at Dortmund and ASSE has turned its back on proposals from Anzhi Makhachkala, Rubin Kazan or Newcastle.”

So it seems it was the player’s choice to go to Borussia Dortmund, and that AS St. Etienne (ASSE) seem to have accepted less money than was bid by other clubs, in order that their player could choose the club he wanted to join.

And this will also explain why Newcastle are supposed to have offered up to £15M for the Gabon International early last week.

The fact that the German club was Aubameyang’s first choice was probably one reason the deal was tied up so quickly once Dortmund got the all clear to move in.

It is not dissimilar to what happened last summer when our top striker target then – FC Twente’s Luuk de Jong – chose another German club, Borussia Monchengladbach over Newcastle.

This news is a little strange, because we thought Pierre-Emerick wanted to play in the Premier League, but we suppose not – and he’s another one that got away.

But it’s a blow to Newcastle’s transfer plans this summer that we have missed out on our top striker target for the third transfer window running.

What do you think?

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92 responses so far ↓

  • 1 jimmysmith // Jul 7, 2013 at 11:53 PM

    Well, Dortmund are a great side and club, so I’ll take that one on the chin.

  • 2 Newcastle Brown Alien // Jul 7, 2013 at 11:59 PM

    Well dortmund are champions league finalists, who emolished real madrid, play in front of 80,000 fans. Fair enough to him, best of luck.

  • 3 NUFCarter // Jul 8, 2013 at 12:02 AM

    I’d love to see PEA do well at borrusia, but it would be depressing knowing that he could have been at NUFC.

  • 4 beddersmag // Jul 8, 2013 at 12:09 AM

    Was never going to happen. Lots of wasted wishes on this kid, we toon fans are delusional at times. Cant blame him of course.

  • 5 SeanNufc87 // Jul 8, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    Blah blah blah! Typical mike Ashley! Blah blah blah no ambition! Blah blah blah just bid a couple more mill ffs! Blah blah blah…

    How many times you willing to be wrong by jumping on the bandwagon pulled along by ‘the sun’
    ‘The star’ and other such tripe thats plucked from thin air?

  • 6 spitfire_ // Jul 8, 2013 at 12:12 AM

    If we was more persistent and didn’t wait JFK to dip his old arse into some ocean and try to take him a weeks earlier… the situation could be other. Well… at least we try… but the to say only that isn’t enough.

  • 7 Graeme // Jul 8, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    You just cant argue with his choice, given our performances last season. He is joining a superb Football Club, with none of the garbage that is currently swamping NUFC!!

    Good luck to him

  • 8 Black and White with an army lol // Jul 8, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    i think this proves that all players around the globe don’t want to come here, all players would want to go to a team who are a forward thinking team and show ambition unlike Newcastle

  • 9 SeanNufc87 // Jul 8, 2013 at 12:24 AM


    Are you kidding? Got nothing to do with them being champions league finalists? Winning the league? Give yer head a shake.

  • 10 jeff // Jul 8, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    who cares?he looks like an attention seeker.would prefer bent

  • 11 jayphoto // Jul 8, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    Think Ed that his first choice was the premier league and Man City! They werent interested now mancini is gone tho! PEA has a big point to prove to the world and wanted to play at the top level, think we were first choice if no champions league clubs came in

  • 12 jayphoto // Jul 8, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    Also, talk in france has us looking at jeremy menez… Looks set to leave PSG

  • 13 lesh // Jul 8, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    What do you think?

    Joe Kinnear, that’s why! Wouldn’t you be impressed at what he’s done for Newcastle United?

    Don’t ask for chapter and verse though!!

  • 14 djm... // Jul 8, 2013 at 12:40 AM

    Surely if a player says he would choose a league over any other, it would be understood if he was to change his mind when offered a move to one of the biggest clubs in the world, from another league? Dortmund are one of the most progressive teams in the world, so good luck to the kid. He did also have a lot of positive things to say about us, and some of which contradict our own fans beliefs.

  • 15 Charlietoon // Jul 8, 2013 at 12:41 AM

    Good insight into how we do our business regardless of the idiotic mouth of Joe K. Despite every NUFC fan clamouring for a sound bite or some info to help us through the next 24 hours, the club has not come out and said ‘get off our back we did bid for him and he still didn’t want to come’ which would have been an easy way for Ashley to say go shove it fans, if he wanted to but would have weakened our bargaining position for future deals. Deals and business come first even if it is at the expense of the fans sanity

  • 16 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Jul 8, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    I just hope, that unlike in the past, we have other targets for that money to be spent on!

  • 17 Thump // Jul 8, 2013 at 3:14 AM

    No arguments with this. The lad preferred Dortmund and went – good on him for taking his time.

  • 18 Marty-Toon // Jul 8, 2013 at 5:33 AM

    Fair play,he’s goin to a team that actually know how to play football

  • 19 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2013 at 5:45 AM

    Damn Ashley & JK, we should have offered PEA 8mil/year contract and St Etiene 40mil. No Ambition!!!

    :P :P

  • 20 Jail for Ashley // Jul 8, 2013 at 5:50 AM

    Such a shame that Mike Ashley sent a blatant message last year that mid table with Europe a hinderance was our aim and if the message wasn’t understood he had his two stooges big up a top ten finish I bet this really sold us, yeah so a big black eye for critics of our illustrious and ambitious owner.

  • 21 Ben3arfa // Jul 8, 2013 at 6:03 AM

    Two weeks ago, I said we were favourites unless Dortmund entered the race for PEA then we would not stand a chance. I was proven correct.

    In the end good on PEA for moving to such a great and forward moving club in Dortmund, we had very little to offer him apart from playing in the EPL in front of a big crowd and with some extra French players.

    In the end if Carroll left us for Liverfool why get mad at PEA? lol

  • 22 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2013 at 6:13 AM

    Should have bought PEA from Milan 3 years ago for peanut, damn you Ashley, Carr, & JK!!

  • 23 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2013 at 6:15 AM

    should have bought PEA when he was a baby, DAMMMNN YOUU, No Ambitions!!

  • 24 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Jul 8, 2013 at 6:20 AM

    Can anyone blame the lad for making the choice he has !

    If you just look at the Motley Crew running the Club and you read all the Fuss and Un-rest on here among the supporters !

    With the appointment of Kinnear as ???? What is his function / position exactly ? Well the point is no star players are sought after targets, are even going to consider moving to
    Newcastle with the present Owners and Directers at the club!

    Every day there is a different name on here with Post headlines like:

    “Newcastle could be interested in this player”! then a day later,

    “Is this player a Newcastle Target”?

    This is all typical of the way Newcastle are at the moment, and until a new trainer comes or there is a change of owners, this is how its going to continue!

    I can see narrowly missing relegation in this coming season too ! With players like Cabaye and Krul being sold to the highest bidder?

    Lots come on here and say that the club is being run well and we are not in Debt? The truth is that at the end of the day looking at the way the club is being run at the moment i believe we are going to be fighting for Prem survival for years to come?

    PEA to Dortmund is not really surprising to me, he took one look at us and all the press bullshit and that clown Kinnear and made his choice.
    We could of offered 50Mil, i still don,t think he would of come to St James?

    Meanwhile Boney will complete his move to Swansea City today, having trained with his new team-mates last weekend .

    Plus Sunderland have completed the 10Mil Euro transfer of Altidore from AZ Alkmaar, a club record transfer for the Dutch club.

    DEPRESSED ! You bet i am !

  • 25 89Norcal // Jul 8, 2013 at 6:25 AM

    Santon03, don’t you just hate when you miss those chances? :)

    Think it was West Ham that could have had Neymar for ~12-15m a few years ago. At any rate he made it reasonably clear he wanted CL football so cant blame him. He probably would have turned down a few top english sides to play for the CL runners up.

  • 26 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 8, 2013 at 6:27 AM

    Santon…you are actually making a good point not attentionally though!

    We do need to bring in the future tallent before they are at the stage PEA, both de Jong, Bony and the likes are now.

    That is what seperates the great clubs from the rest; here you have to disredatd the super rich club cause they work on a different level!

  • 27 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 8, 2013 at 6:31 AM


  • 28 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 8, 2013 at 6:42 AM

    NUFC doesn’t have that many morning ppl do they :-D

  • 29 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2013 at 6:54 AM

    89Norcal & Jesper

    I think that’s what we are doing currently, trying to breed future stars, but it’s easier said than done.
    If Neymar had moved to WHU, he probably wouldn’t be the current Neymar. It’s like that movie called “Sliding Doors”, I think. We have breed stars like AC who made us 35mil, but I think it’s all depend on that person. If Rangers had not become problem youth, he would have been the new AC.
    It’s also depend on how good our academy, we might need coaches like Ajax or Barca’s.

    My point was stop balming every miss chances on Ashley, it’s not fair. He made errors and he will make new ones, but not everything was his own doing, sometimes things are just not worked as planned.
    People made it seems everything so easy like they can tell the future.

  • 30 Tsunki // Jul 8, 2013 at 6:55 AM

    So there are young players who prefer the sporting challenge over just making as much money whatever it takes. What a contrast to Remy. Unfortunately what makes him an ideal player for us, also ruled him out of signing for us. Can’t blame him at all, given the current fiasco our setup is showing to be right now.

  • 31 valle // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:00 AM

    Jesper… To be fair, England are an hour behind us.

  • 32 Tsunki // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:02 AM

    Those signings y Swansea and the mackems dont depress me though. Most of the players bandied about as prospects are a fairly mediocre looking bunch. None proven in the PL yet. I somehow dont think it would be a good idea to hold our breath for a raft of top signings, I dont think it will happen. Pardew will get 3-4 months to make things work and if not he will be out, and the new man will get the transfer funds. For ‘new’ read ‘Joe’ and for ‘man’ read . . . . .

  • 33 bills-son // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:03 AM

    Black and White says PEA wouldn’t come to us because we show no ambition – yet we bid more than BD for him!

    Yet again this shows how deluded and biased so many fans are against Ashley. He is damned if he does bid for a player and damned if he doesn’t.

    The fact is, other than Shearer, I cannot think of a really top player coveted by the reallt top teams who has ever chosen Newcastle. We aren’t and have never been a really top team ie., consistently challenging for the title, almost guaranteed top four finish and Champions League football every season. That was the case for years before Ashley even arrived.

    What fans need to understand is that if we show ambition by offering big money for players like PEA who also attract bids from Champs Lge clubs we are likely to lose out. We might be peed off at that but we should at least give Ashley credit for having a try instead of throwing more sh1t at him when the player makes the fairly obvious choice.

  • 34 Tsunki // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:05 AM

    Oh and btw, my take on the Darren Bent saga is that if we just stop talking about it, it might just go away. Why on earth would we want what Villa dont want?

  • 35 Tsunki // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:14 AM

    bills-son – but it doesn’t entirely let Ashley off the hook to say that he is not to blame because he is only the owner of a mediocre club does it? Taking the financial stability aspect out of it, the way he has run the club has been a penny-pinching consolidation for PL status to make money by percentages. He seems satisfied to protect his turnover while he uses the club as an advertising vehicle. I used to think he was a successful man driven to do well by his own ego, but I don’t think ambition has much to do with it any more, and the JFK appointment proves that to me. We are just a treadwater billboard now by the look of things, and MA has a lot to do to prove me wrong, which I hope he ccan.

  • 36 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:15 AM


    Let’s not talk about future stars like PEA, Bony, Lens, etc.
    If we only have Bent as a choice, don’t you think it’s better if we buy him rather than stuck with only Shola as our backup striker?

  • 37 bills-son // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:17 AM

    Tsunki – Lpool didnt want Beardsley at 29 and he wax fantastic for us.

    Bent is no Beardsley but he is a proven Prem scorer and at the right price he is a no brainer for me.

  • 38 valle // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:18 AM

    Bills… Ashley have lost allot of people along the way, and it aint because we didnt sign PEA this season. What you say is true, we arent a top side, but we could and should be. The foundation are there to build upon, and to be fair to Ashley, he has shown that he has some ideas to do just that. He has also made allot of critical mistakes, calculated business decisions that wendt against him, such as holding back the funds last summer… So I agree with you that we the fans often think to much of ourselves, but I also think that Ashley deserves the stick he gets right now and I will not in a million years understand how an apperently intelligent business man appoints JFK to run his business.

  • 39 bills-son // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:19 AM

    Tsunki – if he is a penny pinching unambitious owner why did he bid for PEA.

    I’d be interested to hear how you explain that.

  • 40 Tsunki // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:20 AM

    Santon – In short, no. Buying Bent would be a backward step. Currently he is having trouble getting a start in the worst Villa side for decades. He is typical of the journeyman mentality with no fight or loyalty or any sporting ambition, such as PEA apparently displays. He left the mackems in the lurch when he was on the verge of breaking into hero status there, apparently citing ‘footballing reasons’ for the move, which when translated means ‘money reasons’. If we got him, the dressing room would be a vacuum.

  • 41 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:21 AM

    Tsunki -Bills son

    Sorry for jumping in, I don’t think Ashley concentrating much on NUFC previously. He hired MD to do it, now that he hasn’t, I think he will concentrate more on the club. About JK appointment, I think he felt sorry for him rather than his experience or anything tbh.

  • 42 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:24 AM

    Tsunki @40

    I do think that Bent will be signed as 3rd choice striker and before the window closed we will have another striker coming in, just don’t know who.

  • 43 Tsunki // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:28 AM

    bills-son – I am not of the out-and-out Ashley-bashing camp, first of all, I am only criticising him because lately he has invited it, but if you think hanging on to a poor manager and appointing JFK are masterstrokes then I am onto a loser explaining anything.

    Making an offer for PEA does not exactly show ‘ambition’. There are much better/vastly more expensive players in the world that would be considered ‘ambitious’ signings. I would conversely love to hear, on the other hand, how you could explain to me the ‘ambition’ in making a bid for such a player.

    Fina word on Bent – the majority of fans would take him because right now they would sign SewpaKev if his form was good enough just to get the goals in. I wouldn’t. I still think this club deserves a player who wants to play for the shirt and won’t ditch us mid-season as soon as his form comes in. Bent is a poisoned chalice, as soon as he plays like we want him to, he will be setting his agent off on his contact list.

  • 44 bills-son // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:28 AM

    Valle – if Ashley wanted to challenge ManU, City and Chelsea he would have to spend 100s of millions – you are also competing for the really top players with PSG, Barcelona, Real Madrid etc.

    Man City for all the millions they have spent have won one Prem title in the last five seasons and got nowhere in Europe.

    I like every other fan would love Ashley to spend spend spend but he doesnt have the wealth to compete with Abramovich or the Maktoums and we dont have the glamour of ManU, Real Madrid or Barcelone.

    So what he is trying to do is build the best squad he can from those players who arent targets of the aforementioned teams.

    It isnt lack of ambition it is the reality. Simple as.

  • 45 bills-son // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:30 AM

    Tsunki – see 44

  • 46 jazzyp // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:30 AM

    good morning gents-start of a fresh week, de jong and remy in this week ……bale next week lol. what more do you want ???blood.
    on pea who can blame the guy really when you look at how Dortmund are run to the way nufc conduct there business both internally and externally.
    we were at our most attractive proposition 2 season’s ago when finishing 5th and able to offer European football ,that’s when it would have been time to secure top class talent from around the globe.
    its good to hear that we did actually bid for pea, he clearly stated he wanted the pl as an option but unfortunately we were not to be.
    so lets keep our chins up and hope for the best because I think we are all just craving for that first major signing to boost morale on this blog rather than the doom and gloom that seems to be surrounding us at the mo

  • 47 Tsunki // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:33 AM

    Exactly Bills-son, you just said it. Ashley is facing the reality by using the tools he has without wasting anything. Thats expediency, not ambition. I wouldnt decry him for that alone, its just that he could have done so much better than fudge his business decisions by making weird appointments, sticking with mediocre staff and getting into bed with sponsorships like Wonga. He is making our image exactly like the southern press visualise us.

  • 48 valle // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:35 AM

    Bills… I dont think anyone expects him to compete with teams like that? I certainly dont, and you misunderstood me if you think I did… Using his business model of buying talent from abroad that havnt reached the top level yet is fine. I think thats what we should do. I dont think we even did that last summer though, since we only bought Anita who could fit into that box. That was a calculated risk for Ashley that might work anywhere but in football. You cant stand still in football and we shouldnt have done that, instead he should have run another calculated risk. He already knew that we had some good scouting in place to pick up the future talents, so he should have put 30 million aside to take advantage of that on the back of a great season where we had overarchieved, this is the risk he should have run. I am also not impressed by his decision to stand by AP, but I am willing to wait and see on that one, and last but not least, I dont even know what he was thinking getting JFK in.

  • 49 Tsunki // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:36 AM

    Bills – just to add, I have always admired your dogged stance as the devils’ advocate for Ashley, it has provided a buffer against the likes of Catchy and the ‘all is doom’ crew. But you have to at some point take stock of the reality of a situation, and the current state of the club tells you all you need to know about Mike’s frame of mind at the minute. He is lost.

  • 50 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:38 AM

    Tsunki 47

    I don’t think wonga was his decision, I believe it was Llambias.

  • 51 one Tony Green // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:38 AM

    Morning it is about time that people on here realised we are shite always have been. Since the mid nineties we have had decent crowds before that we averaged 20 odd thousand.

    We have no history of glory and for Ed to print another one who got away. The lad had no interest in coming to us period. We need to get over ourselves and we are not on the same level as Barca, Madrid, Milan, Juve , PSG, Dortmund, Bayern Munich , Man United , Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs or Ajax in terms of history.

  • 52 Tsunki // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:39 AM

    Everything at NUFC at the end of the day is MA’s decision.

  • 53 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:41 AM

    If it was all MA’s decision, then what’s the point hiring MD?

  • 54 bills-son // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:44 AM

    Tsunki – I’ve got no doubt that Pardew has 10/12 games this season to prove last season was a one off. We have a relatively easy start, no Europa and the new french lads will have had a pre-season + there will (hopefully) be two or three key new signings.

    Imo Ashley had brought Kinnear in to sort out a difference of opinion between Pardew and Carr. Pardew wants more Prem experience in the squad but Carr continues to put forward players from France etc. Ashley wants an imparial opinion from someone he trusts. Kinnear might not be everyone’s cup of team but Ashley obviously trusts him. We’ll soon see if he is right.

    If Kinnear brings the pace and power to the team that we desperately lack he can dress up in a clowns suit and dance on the Tyne Bridge for all I’m concerned.

  • 55 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:47 AM

    I work as MD in a seafood company, my bosses (owners) just let me make all decisions and running things, they don’t want to know how. We only have 2 meetings every year, at the end of the day they just want positive outcome (profits) and if there are loses they just want to know what happened.

  • 56 jazzyp // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:49 AM

    its being reported that we actually got around 1 mill for gosling,but hes had to take a significant pay cut to join palace.
    I thought the guy had mass of potential when he came from everton albeit injured. im afraid he never gotto show that and glimpses of him last season proved that he’s well off a standard we should be aiming for

  • 57 valle // Jul 8, 2013 at 7:54 AM

    Tony Green… Spurs? Really? Yah, they are certainly a club with a MUCH bigger history than ourselves with their two league titles compared to our 4… They have a bit of a glory period much like ourselves under Keegan and Robson, but to mention them in the same breath as Man Utd. really undermines your argument mate.

  • 58 jimmysmith // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:02 AM

    shite isn’t too far from the truth when you consider the raw material the club and its owners have had to work with over the years.

    Liverpool, brilliant football club, but why not us?

  • 59 Santon03 // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:02 AM

    anyway my point is if a company have MD, that means the owner doesn’t run that company personally. All decisions made by MD.

  • 60 Ian Toon // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:04 AM

    Tsunki- expediency over ambition! Good distinction in describing
    Ashley’s stance. I do though think that Llambias’ activity in the transfer market was inhibiting in that he looked at cost over quality and there not always the same. Despite criticism of grand daddy Joe
    he knows more of player quality : price than Llambias ever did.
    Why bring in Kinnear if it is only intended to treat him like an elderly
    relative left to fart in the corner. Ashley will want Kinnear to make
    his presence felt and not in the manner he has so far.

  • 61 jonobbad // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:08 AM

    It was never going to happen.
    Most of us knew this but its the stupid ITKs keep coming on here and making up false stories which gets all the fans with no common sense excited.

    At least we can use these apparent ITKs to pinpoint who we are NOT getting.
    So thats

    De Jong
    Foreign Coach

    All wrong yet people still believe the drivel.

  • 62 bills-son // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:09 AM

    Valle I dont think Spurs were being mentioned in the same breath as ManU but to many foreign players they are bigger than us. They are in London for a start and like it or not todays millionaire players and their partners would rather be rocking it down there than in the Bigg Market.

    Would Paulinho have signed for us? I very much doubt it.

  • 63 Indian Magpie // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:10 AM

    Sooner Ashley Sells up the better

  • 64 jonobbad // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:10 AM


    In 2008 us and spurs were in exactly the same place.
    Ashley ruined us and made a lot of our fans accountants whilst spurs have moved on and up fighting for top four.

    Shows what an owner with a bit of ambition can do.

  • 65 Ian Toon // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:12 AM

    The KK / Hall era saw us constantly humiliate Spurs. It was KK’s parting shot.

  • 66 bills-son // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:13 AM

    Jonobbad – it wasnt drivel that we bid for PEA. Or drivel that we bid for Remy last season or De Yong.

    To give some due to Freddy Shepherd it wasnt drivel that he bid £22M for Wayne Rooney before ManU stepped in.

    Bottom line is none of those players decided to sign for us and the only one who went purely for money was Remy.

  • 67 Indian Magpie // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:14 AM

    For all their 5th place finishes and aparing with 4th place finishes, Spurs are a one man team

  • 68 onepeterb // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:17 AM

    Pardwew interview on total sport tonight

  • 69 jonobbad // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:17 AM


    It was drivel that people thought we were a viable option.
    Maybe last summer or in january when we bid.
    This window was never gonna happen.
    Time to look forward to has beens like bent.
    The sooner MA pi**es off the better.

    Regardless of what anyone says the hall / kk era was awesome and id go back to that in a heartbeat

  • 70 jonobbad // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:18 AM


    Youre wrong. One man cannot get you fourth.
    Bit of a stupid comment really.

  • 71 onepeterb // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:19 AM

    Indian mag Can you be sure that new owners would be better. Check out Blackburn. Leeds or Coventry amongst others

  • 72 Slank // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:20 AM

    bills-son @ 44

    Well said. There are IMO three realities which are:

    (a) Ashley, although being rich, is not in the same league as some other owners who are massively rich and therefore Ashley can be easily out bid, although not this time with PEA.

    (b) Often ignored by many fans who confuse the meaning of ‘big club’ is that Newcastle is not a successful club and hasn’t been for decades and therefore is not so attractive to many players who want success and trophies as their priority, PEA perhaps.

    (c) Newcastle and the North East is not as an attractive place when compared to major capital cities. London will always be a more attractive place especially to the WAGS who do have a say in their other halfs intentions.

    Given these impediments it is still remarkable that we have attracted so many very skillfull players from abroad.

  • 73 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:21 AM


    Well said – The only way big signings would come to the TOON if we payed stupid fees stupid wages and where would that leave the TOON – bankrupt.

    I know Man City have done it with stupid money but how many of their players would rather be at Man Utd, Arsenal Chelsea, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich.

    We had a chance in the 90′s but blew it. Directors etc., got greedy taking money out of the club.
    Its easier to get to the top but it is a Hell of a lot harder staying there.

  • 74 jonobbad // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:21 AM


    To provide balance to the argument.
    Look at
    Man City

    Id take new owners right now compared to Ashley.

  • 75 Indian Magpie // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:23 AM

    if it was not for Bale, spurs would be somewhere b/w 8-10th.

    Just look at games against Us, WHUFC, Southampton and last day against Mackems

  • 76 woodsee // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:23 AM

    One tony green,correct me if im wrong,but I think a clubs history starts from when it was formed.We were a far bigger club than man utd up until the 60s,as were Bolton wolves blackpool etc. So look at your facts before spouting history

  • 77 Ian Toon // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:24 AM

    It helps if your Chairman is a lifetime fan, understands football and is a shrewd business man. Levy backed his judgement in bringing in the best young manager in AVB at a time when many felt he had screwed up at Chelsea. He also previously had out bid us for Modric and could
    use the subsequent sale proceeds to finance purchases last summer.
    Spurs will see Bale as financing future purchases but at the moment
    view him as a building platform. Maybe Spurs and not Arsenal should be our model.

  • 78 bills-son // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:24 AM

    The biggest opportunity we missed to become a genuinely top club was after KK left first time round.

    We had a great squad but KK lacked the tactical nous to go to that ladt stage of winning the Prem. John Hall tried to bring in SBR who had just been moved upstairs at Barcelona. SBR turned us down because he wanted to honour his contract.

    We brought in Daglish who failed, Gullit who was worse and the whole thing turned to ratsh1t and the opportunity was lost.

    I bumped into Sir John Hall in Puerto Banus when we were both watching Keegan’s England get beat 1.0 off Germany and thus failing to qualify for the World Cup and he said he wouldn’t be surprised if Kk resigned. He was right – he did in the toilets within minutes of the game ending.

    Sir John also said his greatest regret – and Sir Bobby’s – was that SBR didnt come to us earlier and inherit KK’s team. At that time we had the players, the glamour of our playing style and it was before the big money came into Chelsea and City.

    What a lost opporunity.

  • 79 Indian Magpie // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:25 AM


    That can happen, but why can’t it be some one like City or PSG or Monaco owners.

    Should be stick with asley till eternity

  • 80 jonobbad // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:26 AM

    Nope i dont agree.
    I agree that they wouldnt be as high but not 8 to 10th.
    Lloris vertonghen adebayor are 3 players that id take for us off the top of my head.

  • 81 woodsee // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:26 AM

    Slank,ive worked in every inch of this country,and believe me theres no bigger dumps than London,liverpool and manchester

  • 82 Ian Toon // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:27 AM

    Certainly had Gouffran not been injured and Bale not playing we would have beaten Spurs at the Lane. This was a game where Pardew got the tactics right.

  • 83 jonobbad // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:28 AM

    I have fantastic memories under kk and sbr.
    I actually agree with bill son about how different it could have been if we has sbr after kk the first time.
    The thought sends shivers down my spine.
    What we could have become.

  • 84 SuperShearer // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:29 AM

    Nothing but respect for a player like PEA who goes to a club for less money than others are offering for FOOTBALL reasons. If only there were more like him in the game.

  • 85 valle // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:33 AM

    Bills… True the London thing gives them a better hand when signing players, it dosnt provide them with a bigger history however, which were the argument.

    Jono… I agree that we should have been ahead of spurs by now, but it isnt all Ashleys fault however… It started with Fat Fred who hired Dalglish after Keegan and who sacked Robson and brought in Souness. Ashley have some right sensitive ideas about how to enhance us, but he really keeps on f****** up as well, which is a bit annoying.

  • 86 Ian Toon // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:33 AM

    We will hopefully reach the stage of playing development where we can supplement in quality and not quantity. Whether it be with youngster development or by buying at the higher cost level of a Paulinho. Budget could remain the same.

  • 87 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:38 AM

    Oh well ! Lets sit back and wait to see who we are linked with tomorrow?

    We could sign someone? and Maybe someone else is a target? or,

    Sorry we were out-bid by Bishop-Auckland ?

    Nuff-said i believe?

  • 88 Slank // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:40 AM

    Ian @ 77

    It helps if your Chairman is a lifetime fan, understands football and is a shrewd business man

    I don’t necessarily agree. Shepherd was a lifetime fan and look at the financial pickle he got the club into but more heinous was his ‘we all Geordies together’ spiel whilst at the same time syphoning the fans money allegedly to the pockets of his and Halls families. However, there are some owners who are different, Kenwright and Whelan.

    I agree on shrewd business man but not convinced on understands football as it can result in meddling.

  • 89 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:46 AM


    Worlds leading Coach
    One of the worlds best run clubs
    Best supported teams in Germany
    Playing good Footbal

    underpar coach
    JFK in charge of football
    Well supported club
    Playing crap football
    Nearly got relegated
    Got a dodgy club owner


  • 90 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:59 AM


    Speaks Volumes does,nt it !

    Love the Club ! Hate the state we find ourselves in !

  • 91 cestriasteve // Jul 8, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    Woodsee I have just finished 3 yrs managing Kendals in Mancgester the department store opposite San Carlo the supposed hang out if all the players and WAGs and know Carlo really well I can honestly count on 2 hands the amount of times Balotelli excepted I ever saw a player out on an evening the point I am making is that both teams players had one thing on their mind playing football for there club. Complete professionals so I don’t think it was the bright lights of Manchester that attracts them, balotelli on the other hand…. Hilarious nutcase !! I could tell u loads of stories.

  • 92 richyg01 // Jul 8, 2013 at 9:30 AM

    See, you can offer all the cash you want, if they don’t want to come, they wont.

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