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This Czech Wonderkid (Striker) Would Cost Just £4M

10:59 am, Wednesday, July 10th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 140 Comments

21 year-old Czech striker Václav Kadlec has been at Sparta Prague since 2008, and he already has 2 caps and one goal for the full Czech Republic side.

Václav Kadlec

Václav Kadlec – 21 year-old Czech striker

This is another article in our series of good young players who Newcastle may be wanting to sign now or in the future.

Kadlec was born in Prague, and started his career as a youngster at local Prague club Bohemians 1905 in 1997. when he was he was just five years old.

He moved to Sparta Prague in 2008, and Kadlec made his debut in October 2008 for Sparta against FK Píbram, and scored his first senior goal at just 16 years old.

Kadlec then was given a trial at Liverpool’s Academy in 2007, but he was not signed up by the Reds.

Last season he appeared 36 times for Sparta Prague and scored 19 goals, but last November he fractured his skull in a collision during Sparta’s match against FK Mladá Boleslav.

Václav Kadlec dpressed fracrture

Kadlec suffered this bad injury to his forehead last November

The depressed fracture to his forehead required surgery, but doctors at the time said his career was not in jeopardy.

Kadlec was out two months recovering from the injury, but returned to play for the rest of last season.

He’s also a positive lad, and had this to say on FIFA.com earlier this year:

“We’re doing what we love. I’m so lucky to be a footballer. My hobby has become my job, and that’s magnificent,”

In his career at Sparta Prague he’s played 142 times with 35 goals, and the 6′ right footed striker would cost around £4M, according to the transfermarkt.com web-site.

It doesn’t look like Newcastle are covering the Czech market in terms of scouting, but this lad would look to be a decent buy at £4M.

Kadlec also seems keen to join Newcastle:

“My ambition in life is to wear the famous black and white stripes of Newcastle, one of the world’s top clubs who have tremendous fan support.”

And here’s some video on the youngster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN8BXDak6os

OK – so I made up that quote on Newcastle. :D

What do you think?

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140 responses so far ↓

  • 1 richyg01 // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    Is this you doing Graham Carr’s job Ed?

  • 2 chuck // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    What do I think ?
    A few days ago it was a Slovak, to-day a Chzeck, I think you should stop reading European stats ,then checking out u-tube , as it,s just an exercise in futility.

  • 3 richyg01 // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    All the reports last night of Zoet coming in, then today TalkSport are reporting that PSV have actually declined an offer of £1.7M from us for him.

    Who to believe?!?…

  • 4 richyg01 // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Ed. Where did you get the quote (where he mentions Newcastle) from?

  • 5 geordie157 // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Kadlec, get him signed!!

  • 6 JSYproject // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    Chuck – ironically, your post is far more futile than looking for players that our club would benefit from signing. Are we not allowed to discuss options outside of France?

  • 7 JSYproject // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Aye that quote is questionable hahaha

  • 8 Stevenage Magpie // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Ed man! That quote made me well happy, until I realised you made it up! Not cool Ed, not cool

  • 9 Toon-82 // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    We will end up doing business on the last day at this rate.

    I’m so glad we identify our targets so early (sigh).

  • 10 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    Richy
    Lol ed said he made it up ;)

  • 11 Klatoon // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Sell Cabaye buy Ever Banega…simple!

  • 12 Belfast // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    He’s not french, so no chance.

  • 13 numba9 // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    Why don’t we go and get the lad that was on loan to Watford last year vydra he is a class finisher won player of the year and proved he can handle physical English football

  • 14 richyg01 // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Leroy Fer is having his medical at Norwich today.

  • 15 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    I like his attitude it is something refreshing compared to the likes of Ba and Remy ;-)

  • 16 Belfast // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Norwich have done some good deals

  • 17 Belfast // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    So have Swansea.
    That’s exactly what we should have done last summer.

  • 18 lesh // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    Kadlec has issued a statement to correct an error his his supposed quotation.

    He’s confirmed hid ambition in life is to wear the famous black and white stripes of Grimsby Town, one of the world’s top clubs – NOT Newcastle, United.

    He’s also apologised to Newcastle fans for any distress caused by that error!

  • 19 geordie157 // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    Norwich have made to great signings so far in Van Wolfswinkel and Redmond. They look likely to sign Fer and Toivennen too, impressive and ambitious by the Canaries.

    They must have a slight chance with Alderwiereld to. Now that would upset a few bloggers on this site!!

  • 20 Blofal // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    Another one bites the dust.

    Leroy Fer to Norwich.

    http://www.insidefutbol.com/2013/07/10/norwich-wrap-transfer-net-around-newcastle-target-leroy-fer/91668/?

  • 21 G // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    I hate us signing anybody with the tag ‘wonderkid’. It’s like saying we have a player who will never fulfill their potential! Paul Brayson, Bjarni Gudjonssen spring to mind. They have both held the wornderkid tag, and where are they now? Chopra is the only one who held the tag and actually made it anywhere near the first team. If we were going to go for a striker, how about a cheeky bid for Barca’s Christian Tello? Plays up front, or on the wing, and Barca want him out on loan? Might be worth a cheeky bid, or a loan offer. He looks like he would thrive in the prem, and unless something unfortunate happens to Messi, Villa, Neymar, and friends he hasn’t got a chance of getting near the first team. Win win I think?

  • 22 lesh // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    Didn’t Pardew express his frustration that we’re always slow to get off the mark early with transfers. That begs the question why do we leave things til the last minute?

  • 23 DevonToon // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    @11 E.B is well out of our league mate…

  • 24 stuart no9 // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    good to see the the board are really looking to set the prem alight next season!! .If we do manage to get that ” understudy goalie ” in , ash needs to take a step back , work out how much he has spent , not forgetting their wages to take into account, before he “splashes” out anymore in this window!

  • 25 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 10, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Stuart no.9
    Exactly mate we need to be careful we don’t overspend especially not now they have halved the TV money!

  • 26 wynsleap // Jul 10, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    Sorry Ed – but with all due respect I find these “he might be a good buy for the Toon” topics totally boring and pointless.
    I do understand, however, that with Ashley lashing the money around at the moment, that we have to keep in touch with who”s available. (!!!)

  • 27 stuart no9 // Jul 10, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    TADS– hahahha

  • 28 Belfast // Jul 10, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    Why the fluck are we trying to sign a goalkeeper ? lol

    It’s a bit of a kick in the teeth for Rob Elliot like.
    Who I thought played a part in keeping us up.

  • 29 numba9 // Jul 10, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    Prob gonna sell Timmy which would be awfull he was my player me the year

  • 30 MichaelMagMan // Jul 10, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    Apparently Pards likes Elliot, Kinnear & Ashley don’t, that is why we are after a new number 2.

  • 31 Joe Blog // Jul 10, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    Eds gone all Kets on us.

  • 32 pawl250 // Jul 10, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Tim Krul player of the year?!

    He had a AWFUL season last year, well compared to the year before. He was not even in the same league.

    Saying that it only confirms how poor the remainder of the team were!

    For me player of the year was Santon, he has improved dramatically since his arrival. Ok makes a few mistakes but young. Certainly was our only player up to Christmas worthy of the title.

    Colo was immense, but his falling outs etc I dont feel he deserved the award.

    Cisse, his work effort was phenomenal, also deserved some recognition. He also since Ba left and moved central scored more goals, some wrongly judged offside, am talking 4 from the top of my head! Yet he is offside alot in general so something he needs to improve on.

  • 33 stuart no9 // Jul 10, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    magman @ 30—
    “Apparently Pards likes Elliot, Kinnear & Ashley don’t, that is why we are after a new number 2″.—-
    good to see everybody working in harmony then !!!!

  • 34 Laurent Robert 32 // Jul 10, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Pardew was on about the other day, along the lines of, we’re not the type of club who can do our business early? What a prat.

    There’s Sunderland with new players, Norwich etc etc.

    Hurry it up!

    The longer it goes on, the more excuses he has to say the players didn’t have a pre-season blah blah. Sick of all the rubbish which they talk without the end result.

  • 35 Belfast // Jul 10, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    Yeah we desperately need to sign a striker (probably two) and a winger.

    But it seems a goalkeeper is more important lol
    Even though we don’t need one.

  • 36 Laurent Robert 32 // Jul 10, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    :-/

  • 37 Offkey // Jul 10, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    I see Ed has joined the group using football manager 2012 or 2013 to scout for talent…………a tad bit like Joe kinnear

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQyYKKru0Tk

    also he was saying Lambeezy when he was our manager, see around 39 seconds in………….

  • 38 pawl250 // Jul 10, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    For god sake have you seen Sunderlands team?! I am sitting beside a Mackem so he is going to tell me the team…..

    Krul – Mannone
    Elliot – Westwood
    Debuchy – Bardsley but leaving! no right back Gardner?
    Mbiwa – Cullear
    Coloccini – Brown
    Williamson – Diakite (free signing)
    STaylor – O’Shea
    Santon – Roberge (free signing)
    Haidara – Colback? (they have no left back)
    Tiote – Cabral (free signing)
    Cabaye – Cattermole
    Anita – N’Diaye
    Sissoko – Vaughan
    Jonas – Larsson
    Bigirmana – El Hadj Ba (new signing 350k)
    Obertan – Karlesson (new signing 1.5m)
    Marveaux – Sessgegnon
    Gouffran – Mcclean
    Ben Arfa – Johnson
    Cisse – Graham
    Campbell – Whickham
    Shola – Ji Dong Won
    ????? – Altidore
    ????? – Fletcher

    According to Wiki they have 23 players…. and we have a “thin” squad?

    We are looking to add too!

    IF we sign Remy or whoever for 10m we have already paid MORE than they paid for ALL there new signings!!!

    FFS get a grip!

  • 39 pawl250 // Jul 10, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Oh and Cattermole, the beloved player has been left behind for pre season so is also probably on his way out….

    It would also be worthy to note they have NO youth players worthy to note, as he could not name people like I could

    Vuckic
    Sammy
    Good
    Street etc

    There supposed best youth player in Ryan Noble “the next big thing” was released from his contract! lol

  • 40 Robin // Jul 10, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    I have no mean to offend, but i started to feel these kind of post are somewhat meaningless.

    Because the board arent looking at these post!

  • 41 stuart no9 // Jul 10, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    laurant @34 —- thats why hes won fkuc all . by the time he takes his finger out of his anus, the season has started- hes missed all his “targets” he had no intention of getting in the first place , then starts the season slower than the slowest snails, that have been stood on by a stampeding tortoise in a race to see who could cross the line last in a slowest race on earth competition.

  • 42 pawl250 // Jul 10, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    Also I do not mind Zoet coming, he is a very promising player.

    BUT does not mean we are focusing on him alone. We should be signing a striker or 2 Pardew himself said it, JK said it.

    Basically calm down and relax.

    I heard Bent and Remy are in early stages, that is all whether its more than that I do not know. De Jong is supposedly in advanced talks with representatives, but no formal offer made.

  • 43 Spotlight Kid // Jul 10, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    Ed, as several others have mentioned, this is pointless, and somewhat cynical. It just reduces NUFC fans to the stereotypes who can be bought off with promises of players – not actual on pitch performances. In days of yore it used to be the No9 shirt, now it seems all 25 numbers are the stuff of pointless speculation and wish list compilation.

    This would appear to aimed at driving your online ad. revenues, and has nothing about providing a reliable independent news service to (very nervous) fans after a rather worrying summer.

    LR32@34 – we don’t do business early as Ashley is an addicted bargain bin believer, even though he of all people knows ’80% OFF’ signs are an utter scam.

    The old adage is always true – you gets what you pays for.. That is why many clubs are in there toughing it out for the best players before the season starts, while we will sit back & feed off the crumbs.

    Personally I would rather have a fresh whole pasty at full price than one in bits at half price at closing time…

  • 44 G // Jul 10, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    Robin, there seem to be a lot of people who agree with you on that one. Personnaly, I quite like them. It’s not like theres currently any matches going on we can disect from our keyboards, so it’s nice to get a little debate going. I find them quite interesting, however, I’m not offended by those who dont.

  • 45 DokToon // Jul 10, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    pawl @38

    well, on paper, it looks like we have the better side… on paper, that is… i do feel your pain however, i work with a manure fan here in houston, my only retort to him is,”well SAF is a drunk”.. i dont even have that anymore…. :(

  • 46 Laurent Robert 32 // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    Stuart, I know. :-/

  • 47 RossNUFC // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    Matej Vydra would be a far better signing

  • 48 Laurent Robert 32 // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    Spotlight, yes, unfortunately.

  • 49 Jail for Ashley // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    Pawl,
    You are clever, rich and now we find out you are also itk of Newcastles transfer dealings, are you a celebrity, Joe Mcelderberry maybe ?

  • 50 Ketsbaia9 // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    Norwich keep going for our ex targets. They’re going to sign Van Wolfswinkel, Alderweireld and Fer.

  • 51 Munster Mag // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    Isnt it nice to hear Pardew speaking again, rather than Kinnear. I had severe misgivings about him last season, and still do and hope I’m wrong, but doubt it. Still, its nice to hear him being in command and “out there” instead of the Kinnear lunatic.

  • 52 Laurent Robert 32 // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    Saw this yesterday and agreed, infact I knew this rubbish as he said it, before the lad tweeted. It’s him to a tee. Same thing with pre-match drivvel and actual in-game play.

    NUFC Stats (@NUFC_Stats) tweeted at 8:41 PM on Tue, Jul 09, 2013:
    Classic Pardew…

    #nufc http://t.co/UAZI0MLmae
    (https://twitter.com/NUFC_Stats/status/354686711390949376)

  • 53 martoon // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    There is no transfer news and no scandal so Ed has to fill his Blog articles with something (he has to keep the advertisers happy). I personally find these articles quite interesting and it is nice to be aware of young up and coming players – alright they probably won’t end up at the Toon but they could easily play somewhere in the premiership. I don’t see the point of knocking Ed – if you don’t lke these type of articles then don’t read them.

  • 54 toon kk // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    Well just think lads with MA being on a self destruction mode, and he finally rewens the club and we’re back in the championship at least we he can afford the players without paying premier league prices. Yippee!!! Oh just remembered he thinks we’ve been relegated already!!

  • 55 viv // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    Nothing will be sorted until Uncle Joe – the boss – comes back off his holidays. So until then we’ll be linked with every striker in the world and his brother.

  • 56 plana // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    I don’t think there’ll be any signings until they get rid of all the dead wood such as Ameobi, Williamson, Steven Taylor, Ryan Taylor, Marveaux, Amalfitano, Elliott and Obertan.

  • 57 GeordieDan // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    JFA>

    lmao. :D

  • 58 mattnufc // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    For twits, Moussa now has twitter: https://twitter.com/ms_sissoko

  • 59 HullMag6 // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    Robin do you know Jeff/Bob etc lol

  • 60 headtheball // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    JFA
    Did you really ask paw a question? He knows a lot about washing up liquid apparently and some of his comments make Icelandic sagas seem like one liners. Rather you than me mate.
    HWTL

  • 61 pawl250 // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Jail for Ashley?!

    Where did I state I was clever, rich or an ITK? Show me and I will apologise? As I am arguably slightly above average in terms of intelligence, not really rich but not bad, suppose it depends how you define rich and I am not an ITK.

    Glad we summed that up.

    Some people just make things up in their own little heads bless them. Must be hard mentally restricting yourself from reading what is infront of you?!

    Bless. Try reading next time pet.

  • 62 pawl250 // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    headtheball

    Bless you. Must have took you a whole 24 hours to think of that one!

  • 63 Levi // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    Pardew said he think with bent and remys sitiuation he feels it wouldn’t be disrespectful to talk about them. And pards has probably already spoke to lambert and redknapp.

    plana
    Saylor,marv,Elliot certainly aren’t deadwood. I wouldn’t be surprised if raylor still has a part to play too

  • 64 djm... // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    If we are going for the wonder kid speculation what about alen halilovoc? Good young second striker. Or the more exotic striker admeilson?

    Nahh, it’s not going to happen.

  • 65 G // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    Good grief there’s some handbags flying about the blog these days. I blame JFK.

  • 66 Rotonda heights // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    levi,

    sadly they are apart from marv

  • 67 Rotonda heights // Jul 10, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    toon kk

    not being funny but did you mean ruins when you put rewens, otherwise it didn’t make sense.

  • 68 Levi // Jul 10, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    Rotonda

    Marv is probably the only one id be sad to see leave.

  • 69 G // Jul 10, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    @67, ‘rewens’ reminded me of how a mackem would spell it! Sort of School is ‘skewel’! No offence intended toon kk.

  • 70 christoon5369 // Jul 10, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    pawl250

    is you favourite word bless?

  • 71 toon kk // Jul 10, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Rotonda…….ha I felt a bit silly after, quickly wrote it messing about then realised when I’d submitted it. Never mind!!!!!

  • 72 pawl250 // Jul 10, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    Christoon

    Only when am being sarcastic. Think it may have been the only two times I have wrote it on this blog…… EVER. Just so happens to be in consecutive posts.

  • 73 christoon5369 // Jul 10, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    lol just found it funny ;-)

    bless ya

  • 74 headtheball // Jul 10, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    Anybody seen the Geordie 1st WW movie WOR HORSE?.
    HWTL

  • 75 GeordieDan // Jul 10, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    I see Al Fayed is selling Fulham to some uber rich Yank who is the owner of a baseball team over in the States.

    Please don’t let yet another team spend a reasonable amount on new players and show us up even more!

    Btw anybody have any idea if we have to wait for JFK to return from his well earned holiday before we can actually finalize any new signing?

    Its all good these claims of we’ve got Remy and Bent in the bag etc etc but does Pardew, Charnley and Carr have the power to get them over the line?

    Or does JFK have to come back and swear at them a few times 1st?

  • 76 GeordieDan // Jul 10, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    headtheball>

    I doubt “the Horse Puncher” has, sadly. :(

    What a …..!

  • 77 kevymartins // Jul 10, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    @Headtheball Proper geordie movie =purely belter. Two kids go on a tear to try get up £1000 for 2 season tickets.

  • 78 pawl250 // Jul 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    Just talking to this lad at word (Mackem) and he is telling me before these Sunderland buys (7 altogether, 1 of them a kid) they had just enough to fill the bench.

    Looking at Wiki, the squad now including 6 of the new signings, as stated 1 is a kid. They have 23 players!! Takeaway 6 of them, that is 16 first team players come the start of the window.

    And we have a thin squad? Sunderland are signing simply because they have to!! We have more than 30, ok some kids but still, I bet we have roughly 25 first teamers…..

    1.Krul
    2.Elliot
    3.Debuchy
    4.Mbiwa
    5.Coloccini
    6.STaylor
    7.Williamson
    8.Haidara
    9.Santon
    10.RTaylor
    11.Bigirmana (young but good enough if Colback is)
    12.Ben Arfa
    13.Jonas
    14.Obertan
    15.Tiote
    16.Cabaye
    17.Sissoko
    _________________________ Sunderland squad
    18.Marveaux
    19.Gosling (for the minute)
    20.Vuckic
    21.Anita
    22.Gouffran
    23.Amalfitnao?
    24.Cisse
    25.Shola

    This doesn’t include some players like Ferguson (now on loan), Tavernier, Street, Alnwick, Abeid, Sammy, Campbell.

    And we think our squad is thin, and we havent signed anyone yet!!

  • 79 djm... // Jul 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    Head the ball, I’m pretty sure a second movie is due to start filming in August. It’s called wor donkey starring shola amoebi.

  • 80 pawl250 // Jul 10, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    Make that 17* lol typo!

  • 81 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 10, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    pawl250

    Yeah, Torq seems to talk sense which is good. And as I said to him, it’s nice to get some qualification about a person’s inside knowledge.

    These people bragging about being ITKs get on my nerves, as they’re just attention seekers. He’s definitely not one of those at least.

    It would be great if there was some way of identifying certain people and their “expertise”. It’s great having an accessible blog, but sometimes you have to filter through a lot of garbage to get to some sound comments!

  • 82 headtheball // Jul 10, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    kevymartins
    I wonder if those kids would still want season tickets after last years offerings? I know I wouldn’t.
    HWTL

  • 83 headtheball // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    djm
    lol you might upset Indian Magpie as I know he always defends Wor Shola.
    HWTL

  • 84 kevymartins // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    Thought we would have signed someone by now, come on the uck toon pull the finger out and get on the phone to some agents.

  • 85 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    Ain’t going to sign anyone got or summer quota in the winter unless we can ship out a few more – Williamson, Shola, Gosling on top of what has already gone.

    Hopefully we don’t lose any of our influential players ie. Cabaye

  • 86 kevymartins // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    Top youngsters around?

    My list from best to worst imo

    Isco
    Gotze
    Insigne
    El shaarawy

  • 87 pawl250 // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    Don’t think we are “selling” club.

    By selling club I mean, we wont sell because we have to. We will sell if the price is right, I mean 35m for Carroll arguably the deal of the century.

    30m for Cabaye is good enough for me, providing money is invested into the team. If MA wants to take 5m, fair play, but beyond that needs reinvested.

    As for no new players income Charlie, I feel we will buy atleast 2-3 players regardless who goes. Gosling and Shola supposedly out the door nearly!

    Bent, Remy, De Jong are coming in from what I have read/heard. Of course its all speculation or snippets of what people hear themselves.

    Wouldn’t mind a centre back coming in too Sakho would be a dream but that is all he is!

  • 88 Thump // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    @Charlie: If we sell those three then we’re looking at trouble for registration. We’d be left with no choice to buy British and, honestly, I think with our current financial structure, we’ll be trading down.

  • 89 daztoon // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    Cabaye ain`t worth 20 million never mind 30 massively over rated.

  • 90 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    Thump
    Yeah I know – we have boxed ourselves into a corner because our English players are not as good as the imports and we will have to pay over the odds for English players

  • 91 pawl250 // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    Thump, would be happy to get Sinclair to boost our numbers of English.

    Homegrown though is 3 years (no matter nationality) registered with FA before age of 21.

    “A Home Grown player will be defined as one who, irrespective of his nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to the Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).”

    This means Haidara will be homegrown in 2.5 years time, and likes of Krul is now.

    Our homegrown players are:

    1.Krul
    2.Elliot
    3.Alnwick (under 21)
    4.RTaylor
    5.STaylor
    6.Williamson
    7.Ferguson
    8.Tavernier
    9.Gosling
    10.Bigirmana (under 21)
    11.Vuckic
    12.Sammy (under 21)
    13.Shola
    14.Campbell (under 21)

    Its worthy to note we really need HG players over 21 years of age so we only have 10 but will therefore mean we can only register a further 15 players in our squad!

    This means Gosling, and Shola could leave with no issues, even more unless we register a U21 in our 25 man squad.

  • 92 pawl250 // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    Daztoon

    Carroll was not worth 35m but we still sold him for that.

    A player is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for him. This means Cabaye, reported asking price of 25m, could easily be achieved if someone is willing to pay and accept they need to pay it.

    Up to the club really if they want to sell. I feel we sell our players at a premium rate as we do not wish to sell them.

  • 93 pawl250 // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    Also Thump, remember if Bent is Sholas replacement he is also HG so we aren’t losing out.

    Arguably just upgrading….. slightly!

  • 94 daztoon // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    @pawl250
    Just because someone is stupid enough to pay high price doesn`t mean he is worth it

  • 95 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    We’d only be a selling club if we’re forced to sell to survive every year. For some clubs, the only way they can stay in the PL is to develop and offload a player or two every year just to ensure they can cover the wage bill required.

    We’re not a selling club. We’re probably the biggest club in Europe that hasn’t qualified for the CL in the last 10 years.

    The only reason we’ll sell key players is if a CL club wants to pay to price. So yeah, Cabaye might cost £15M if a club wants/needs to sell, but we can ask for £30M and if a club is that desperate, then they’ll pay it.

    We don’t need to sell.

  • 96 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    According to this http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/newcastle-united/startseite/verein_762.html, Cabaye is worth £14.5M. Seems like a fair valuation to me, but we’ll demand a lot more than that.

  • 97 tequilamag // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    Pawl, Haidara cannot ever be considered as HG, he is now 20 year old now and to be considered HG he would have to be registered to us or another English club for 3 years before he is 21.

  • 98 kevymartins // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    @TDS tbh I think yohan is quite happy where he’s at. And 1 of the richest clubs in football have expressed how sincerely they want him. So that give’s us the upper hand. If I was pardrew or kinnear or whoever I would come out and say minimum 25-30 million bid would be considered.

  • 99 daztoon // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    @ToonDarnSarf
    I think 14.5 is a very fair valuation for Cabaye.

  • 100 headtheball // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    paw@91
    You have me thoroughly confused. Haidara was born 02 Dec 1992 which makes him 20 years old. He signed for NUFC 25 Jan 2013. If he signed for us when he was twenty years old, how could he ever be classed as Homegrown when he can never have been registered for three years prior to his 21st birthday? Or am I missing something? As Pauline Hanson would say Please Explain.
    HWTL

  • 101 pawl250 // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    Tequila

    Fair point, for some reason I was under the assumption he was 18 years old upon signing. My mistake. My apologies.

  • 102 pawl250 // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    HeadtheBall, see above

    Haidara is now a bad example, if Haidara had been 18, which I thought he was, it would have been the case.

    My apologies.

  • 103 kevymartins // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    @Pawl mehdi abeid will be home grown?

  • 104 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    kevymartins

    Exactly. I don’t have an issue with a player wanting to leave us for PSG, Barca, Real or Utd. I wouldn’t blame them to be honest!

    I’d be surprised if Cabaye, or any of our top players, are demanding to leave this summer unless one of those clubs make it clear that they are willing to pay a top price and double their wages.

    I don’t want Pardew or Kinnear to come out and say £25-30M minimum though. I want them to say “not for sale”. We all know everyone has their price but I don’t want any of our key players to leave. I’ll only be ok with it if the buying club pays well over the odds.

  • 105 kt97toonarmy // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    Cabaye is the best midfielder we have had since ginola so we should fight to keep him make him sign a new contract to send a message to the top clubs in europe that he isnt for sale however i want us to sign a new player soon as im getting very bored of the press goin on bout pardew nd kinnear cas honestly it does my head in

  • 106 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    daztoon

    Yeah, that site is pretty good to be honest. The great thing is that we don’t need to sell any players to survive, so there’s no way they will go for their market value. Why would we sell a player for £14.5M when we’d have to spend the same amount to get an equivalent player?

    But if a club is so desperate to get him because he fits in so well with their style or they just desperately need someone in that position…well, they can either pay £30M or jog on…

  • 107 pawl250 // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    KevyMartins

    He will be soon.

    He is currently 20, going 21 in August which is classed as this season.

    May 2011 > May 2012 (1 year) > May 2013 (2 year) > May 2014 (3 year) I believe that is correct, and because he is 21 this season it means he will be registered for 3 years according to the rules.

    Or I assume how it works….. Its what I took from it?

  • 108 Rotonda heights // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    toon kk

    no worries i thought that’s what you meant.

  • 109 kevymartins // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    @TDS but we bought cabaye for what 5.5 million?

    Look what heppened with carroll he rebuiled our hole team, I’m not saying we can keep selling our best players and finding gems but for around 30 million we sure could replace yohan and still have money left over. say we did sell him for around 25-30 mil we could always splash out 10million on someone like paul pogba and 20 million on a real quality striker, or the other way about ,20 mill on a cm and 10 on a striker, As much as I would hate to see cabs go it would seem to me to be the right thing to do.

  • 110 pawl250 // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    True story = Ginola left for 2m

    Could struggle to get an average player for that these days!

  • 111 viv // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    Reading some of the blogs the clowns on here post, you soon realise old Ashley, is having their sad lives big time. Look mugs nothing will happen until uncle Joe shifts perma.-skinned Pardew, out of his job, any other decent manager would have rapped in but not Pardew, the guy is beyond insulting. Then the crap like the Taylors, Ameobis, Williamson, Elliott etc all out back into the lower leagues where they belong with Pardew!

  • 112 kt97toonarmy // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    Pawl 2 million was alot in those days for the best footballers for example shearer signed for blackburn for 3.2 mill from southampton and at the time that was a british record

  • 113 Phatoon // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    @ToonDarnSarf – 96

    Transfermarkt does have “realistic” guide prices/valuations for players. I would agree that Cabaye is a £14.5m player, based purely on his performances.

    However that price they quote doesn’t reflect:

    Lenght of contract remaining.
    Extra value to the club.
    The club wanting/needing to sell.

  • 114 daztoon // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    @ToonDarnSarf
    Depends if his head gets turned and a transfer request goes in to push a move.Players and there agents seem to hold all the power these days

  • 115 pawl250 // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    Kevy, it depends

    If Yohan Cabaye can propel us, or atleast assist us into a CL spot then he is worth keeping. At a risk albeit, but CL is worth 30m alone.

    2 years in that, not only do you make serious money but you also increase popularity, and attract better players.

    Its a weight you must choose as an owner. You do not go upwards selling your best players.

    If we were sure he was “past it” then yeah, like Henry sell him later down the line.

    I feel these are his prime years. Selling him now would be like selling Messi tomorrow. The only reason people are willing to pay that much is because he is a quality player, and they do not grow on trees for a club like us.

    Unless we improve and stay in European competitions.

  • 116 kevymartins // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    @Viv Blog clowns? Aww well at least here don’t bring negativity to here, Stuff will happen mark my words just be patient and keep the faith :D

  • 117 pawl250 // Jul 10, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    Shearer signed for us for 15m 2-3 years before we sold him.

    2m was not exactly alot, remember Shearer to Blackburn was 1992, Ginola leaving was 1997.

    2m was not as much then.

  • 118 Rotonda heights // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    viv

    sad but true i’m afraid

  • 119 cestriasteve // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    Pawl250 sahko wouldn’t come unless we got 1st team football. We should stick with Collo and MYM as first choice this season.

    Agree would be mint but think your other suggestions are a priority.

  • 120 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    kevymartins

    We can’t keep getting that amount of success in the transfer market though! There will be the occasional bargain available, but there are loads of clubs looking for those.

    You’re also mad if you think Pogba would cost £10M and mad if you think he would leave Juventus to join us.

    We’re not going to improve by continually selling our best players and replacing them with players who might take time to find their feet or just might not fit into English football. We signed some damn good players in the past who had great success elsewhere but were poor for us. Think of Luque, Tommasson, Marcelino, Boumsong and others. All internationals who excelled elsewhere but were terrible for us.

    No. I’d rather stick with what we know. Cabaye is top drawer and we’re not going to improve by trying to sell him. If he wants to go and we get a huge bid, then I know he’ll go, but if he wants to stay then he should stay.

  • 121 kt97toonarmy // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    I was reading an article stating a question which was is sponsorship ruining football. Rather personlly i would say no its not sponsors its agents because seriously how can 1 man that is good at football b worth 80 million. I mean look 80 million imagine what you could do with evan a 1/10 of that. In my opinion no footballer on this earth shud b worth anymore than 10 million. Fact.

  • 122 viv // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    116 a prime example of a deluded clown. And this Kadlec will not join as Ashley, won’t sign a cheque!

  • 123 kevymartins // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    @Pawl Very true but you cannot argue you don’t go upwards by selling your best players.

    Just look at the squad now from what it was like b4 we sold carroll? Huge difference imo…It’s a hard situation to call I just think the player himself will probably end up wanting to go anyway if he gets offered the top dollar wage..So why not make a huge profit on him and just replace him, Cabaye is good but defo replaceable for the right money, Samri nasri example when to city for 25 million.

  • 124 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    Phatoon

    You’re right, it doesn’t. It’s an indication of the valuation of the player in an open market, not what he would actually go for.

    So, yes, Cabaye with several years left on a contract, playing regularly for a club that doesn’t need to sell, and being a regular in the France team…ups his likely sale price.

  • 125 kevymartins // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    @Viv Please tell me where these newcastle fans get this from? Always yapping we never sign anyone, really? Look at the players we have bough look at last january market, Look at cisse 10 million, Cabaye ,tiote,santon,mbiwa,gouff,sissoko,

    We will sign players for christ sake so in the mean time stop being negative and ungrateful.

  • 126 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:10 PM

    daztoon

    Yeah, but then we put a valuation on him and if it isn’t met, he doesn’t go. At the moment we’re not at that point but if he really wants to go to a CL team, then I say good luck to him.

    Spurs did it with Modric and we need to do the same thing. We need to make it quite clear that we are trying to develop this club into one that can challenge for the CL. Utd, City and Chelski are stupidly rich, but there’s no reason we can’t get this club on a par with Spurs in the next few years and if we have an excellent season, we can nick that 4th place.

  • 127 viv // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    Kebab is off as his missus Dona, hates old Kinnear!

  • 128 Markaccus // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    Afternoon people. Been busy today. What have i missed. Came and left here yesterday due to fighting lol.

  • 129 kevymartins // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    @TDS would you take 10 mil plus lavezzi or Blaze matuidi plus gamerio for him?

  • 130 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    kt97toonarmy

    It’s just supply and demand mate. The fans want more coverage of football so Sky TV provides that. The fans are loyal to their clubs so the clubs can charge huge prices. The clubs are wealthy so the key employees (the players) can demand huge salaries.

    It’s not sponsors or agents, it’s the fans and the way the system is. A player is worth £80M because that’s the valuation on the asset that is their contract. It’s not a made up figure, it’s calculated by the revenue that player will generate as an asset, a player, a marketing tool etc. and the TV companies, sponsors and fans will keep paying…

  • 131 Papiss_Myself // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    I haven’t read any of the other posts yet but has anyone watched the video and noticed he missed more goals than anything else!!!!!

    He should fit right in

  • 132 daztoon // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    @ToonDarnSarf
    Spurs have pushed on and will keep moving forward while we plod mate.We are more interested in just being in the Premiership than aiming for a CL place

  • 133 Markaccus // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    Kevy.

    Just to but in…… i would take gameiro+ cash for kebab. Or 2 players. I am greedy :-p

  • 134 viv // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    Deluded 123 they never signed anyone last summer of note, they signed five players for twenty million and the jury is still out wether they are any good or not.

  • 135 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    kevymartins

    To be honest, I haven’t watched any of those players play, so I’m not one to judge.

    But the same thing applies, there’s no guarantee that those players will fit in.

    To be honest, I don’t like speculating about what I’d take for players leaving. I know every player has his price, but I don’t like speculating about that price, I’d rather speculate about how amazingly well he’s going to play for us next season.

  • 136 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    daztoon

    That’s negative thinking. Check out Spurs’ finishes in the league. Their worst position is 11th in the last 9 seasons. That’s the kind of consistency we need to re-establish our club at the top.

    We aren’t targeting staying in the PL, and our players wouldn’t stand for that, we’re targeting consistent top 10 finishes, so we can improve the squad and then make a push. It took Spurs years to build up and qualify for the CL.

  • 137 viv // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Gamiero a bench warmer for PSG more sub-standard crap these are the types of players NUFC should avoid like the plague.

  • 138 djm... // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Cabaye and matuidi are going to be the French dm partnership for years to come. For this reason, he is worth a lot of money to a top team in France. I would love sakho as he will be MYM’s international long term partner. But I doubt he would come here and play understudy colo in a World Cup year.

  • 139 DevonToon // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    Transfermarkt though is still just sum blokes opinion of what a players worth… Like anything in life something is as valuable as some one willing to pay. Like when i use the self service checkouts do i put my pink lady apples through as granny smith? Hell yea cos i dont think they should be more expensive…

  • 140 daztoon // Jul 10, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    @ToonDarnSarf
    It aint negative thinking at all it being realistic.If we were so ambitious we would have identified our targets and got them in already.Same as last summer we showed no ambition and only signed players in jan when our place in the premiership was in doubt




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