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Seven Newcastle Games Televised Live In Early Part Of Season

3:27 pm, Thursday, July 11th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 387 Comments

Seven of Newcastle’s games through the end of November will be screened live in the UK.

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Fabricio Coloccini – will lead Newcastle next season

Sky Sports (SkyS) have chosen five of Newcastle’s games, and BT Sports (BTS) have selected two matches to be shown live in the UK, over the first eleven weeks of the season.

In the US we have been promised that every single Premier League game will be available live on either Fox Sports (Subsidiary of Sky Sports) or NBC Sports, who have taken over from ESPN, and now share the duties for the very first time, of broadcasting Premier League games.

And Newcastle’s very first game has been put back to Monday night – so at least we’ll know what we have to do to be top of the league after the game. 😀

Here are the Newcastle games that will be televised live in the UK,with the new kick-off times – courtesy of the Newcastle United web-site:

Mon 19th Aug, 2013 – Man City v Newcastle (8:00 pm KO), SkyS
Mon 30th Sep, 2013 – Everton v Newcastle  (8:00 pm KO ), SkyS
Sat 19th Oct, 2013 – Newcastlev Liverpool (12.45 pm KO), BTS
Sun 27th Oct, 2013 – Sunderland v Newcastle  (4:00 pm KO), SkyS
Sat 2nd Nov, 2013 – Newcastle v Chelsea (12.45 pm KO), BTS
Sun 10th Nov, 2013 – Tottenham v Newcastle  (12:00 pm KO, Sky S
Sat 30th Nov, 2013 – Newcastle  v West Brom (5.30 pm KO), Sky S

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387 responses so far ↓

  • 1 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    WWYCD –

    Where did I say we wouldnt spend money, and simply happy with our team?! Recent trend says £20-25m, with 5-7m out …. We will spend money, but I think its not a necessity this season, arguably another striker or 2 is but that is it.

    You simply asked why are other clubs buying, and we are not. Because we simply do not want the players they are buying, and ensure value for money.

    As seen we will buy players worth twice the amount we pay for them. Sissoko we could sell for £10m+ now we paid £2-3million, this is not only good business but they are decent players. Cabaye is another example paid £4m can sell now for £20m+ and hes a good player. But some people rather buy Henderson for £16m or Rodwell for £16m and our club end if debt in the process…. aswell as having lesser players!


    Probably because you are one…… you wish we did things like good ol’Freddy did them, buying has beens for 15m then seeing our club in 100m+ in debt! Woot score!

    Ok mate, you simply have not got the brain cells to understand debt.

    Debt is something you do not want to accumulate and soon needs to be gone for the FFP rules. Hence the introduction of money the next 3 years.

    Nevermind though you being chairman we would be the next Pompey! No worries!

    WE made a profit last year btw, Arsenal do, Swansea probably have this year, Man Utd could as they have 10x the revenue than any other club being worldwide.

  • 2 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    TDS –

    If I bore you why read my posts, or write something equally as long and as boring back?

    Lol again contradiction is the right word in this case!

  • 3 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    not wishing to be funny or ignorant but how can you have profit if you are in debt

  • 4 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM


    I would say you’ve missed the point but I don’t even think you were aiming for the point, that’s how far out in the stratosphere you are.

    As for Man United making a profit? You’re having a laugh man! They are lumbered with debt!

  • 5 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    and if everyones happy just rolling along whats the point of that theres no get up and go everything a club should be about not just surviving

  • 6 croftus5678 // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    @3 jt

    ^^ omg :-O’ve got a point there >.< lol

  • 7 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:41 PM


  • 8 kevymartins // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    My bro heading to the liverpool game to think his fligh is 7 anyway, I;m thinking about fulham or west ham.

  • 9 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    you can make a profit and still be in debt out of the profit the debt should be decreasing surely

  • 10 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    Each year is a separate year John.

    We are 100m in debt, or were, we arent now because MA loaned the club money to clear it to stop interest.

    But debt is an accumulated figure, a profit figure for each year is a different thing. The profit of this years accounts, will reduce debt or more commonly known as losses from previous years.

    Profits are based on each year.

    The “debt” or even loan is on the balance sheet.

  • 11 Mister Tuff // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    headtheball @228 previous thread.
    I submitted a similar list of “people out” a couple of weeks ago and realised that there would only be me left on the blog. So perhaps not a brilliant idea.

  • 12 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    whoosh and ashleys beer and fag and ripper moneys are company jollies

  • 13 croftus5678 // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    @10 pawl

    jt was taking the p*ss m8 he knows you mean year on year profits but the fact we owe ashley still is debt and we will not truely be making a profit untill ashley is paid off

  • 14 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    pawl i too couldn’t give a monkeys nad for finance i want ambition,thrilling footy, not mediocre almost relegated footy to be more than in the top ten than not, not what ashleys providing

  • 15 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    he needs paid asap selll cabeye sell krul sell the lot start again oops cant sell them there ashleys bitches

  • 16 Jail for Ashley // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    The blogs verdict is unanimous that you are the most boring long winded poster ever and if you are going to spout pro Mashley facts get them right, James Milner was sold in August under KKs nose for financial and not footballing reasons, one of the major decisions that led to our demise that year.

  • 17 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    if there was as much bitching in the ranks last season watch the backlash this season none of the staff will give a toss they wanted pardew out he is still there who knows just a veiw

  • 18 toon kk // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Pawl …….like I say give MA a ring, he’s bound to give you a job and you could work for free to save him money. In the meantime we can struggle with a small sqad.

  • 19 Mister Tuff // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    Back to actual players – I see that idiot at Swansea, whats his name, Laudrup, has signed Wilfried Bony for 12 million quid -what a waste of money. Must be deluded if he thinks that Bony and Michu will form a partnership to cause havoc amongst the PL teams this season. But what if Laudrup has got it spot on -crap.

  • 20 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    man city 1- 3 newcastle you saw it here first jonas taylor and collo

  • 21 WWYCD // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    Look mate we clearly have different priorities as football fans I’d rather the person who owns a big PL team realises what that means or sells up and allows someone else to come in and exploit what’s on offer here. U seem to prefer Ashley making a solid investment and our club ticking over

    Imo the squad of last season were very disappointed with just Anita coming in especially as their huge wages that we struggle to cope with are largely offset by bonuses based on finishing position

  • 22 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    Not read it? You take up article after article with your boring waffle about the clubs accounts which no one gives a monkeys about

    Thank god your here to educate the masses

    Don’t even think MA cares as much about the books as you!!

  • 23 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    each to his own every thought counts

  • 24 LooneyToon41 // Jul 11, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    Pawl. Just ignore the haters mate. 95% of what you’ve posted makes perfect sense to me, and i run a multi-million£ business.
    @4 Ruddy.
    “As for Man United making a profit? You’re having a laugh man! They are lumbered with debt”
    Completely different things mate, and you are suggesting that Pawl’s out of the stratosphere??!?
    That’s like comparing an Apple with a Television. Heads gone 100%!

  • 25 headtheball // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    Why do people say WE OWE Mashley. We owe Mashley absolutely nothing. He bought the club so he is responsible for the debt. Does he care what we want? Does he listen? His decisions, his problem!

  • 26 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:00 PM


    He claims Man U make a profit. They don’t.

  • 27 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:02 PM


    Also, I’ve never claimed to be an accountant, the nuts and bolts do not enter into my thinking as a football fan.

    But as long as we’re all talking business sense here, that’s what we want from a NUFC football blog.

    Now, run along, your multi-million pound business won’t run itself.

  • 28 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    Geordie Boot Boys re booted
    We are the Mini! The Geordie Mini Accountants
    For we are boring! For we are sad!
    We have the best balanced cheque books!
    The world has ever had!

  • 29 toonluvva // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    They’ll have to bring the mackem match start time forward or there will be a lot of bother.

    I wonder if the sports channels are expecting a few more goals from the opposition as per the mackem (3) and Liverpool (6) games at the end of the season.

    Hopefully JoKe will NOT conduct any pre or post match interviews, but I’ll bet that the TV stations will try their best to get him showing up himself and our club live on camera.

  • 30 toon_dog // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    Off topic like but stayed in the jesmond dene house last weekend as was proposing to the Mississ n Anita was me neighbour for the night, seen him getting out of some ones Bentley and I was going to my room with me room top on and he quickly nashed off to his room ha ha must of thought sh1t he’s gonna ask for me autograph or sommit.
    Bit curious as to why he was there tho living over here since last season :s

  • 31 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    multi million pound companies are run by accountants, the owners often make mistakes, the accountants paint over the cracks.well done loonie

  • 32 toon_dog // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    Toon top*

  • 33 nightfa11 // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    1. colo wants to stay cos its his best chance to get in argentinas WC squad.. if he went to a better club he might not play..if he went to san lorenzo now..well..some managers dont rate argentinian league..

    2. as for our summer transfer activity:
    id be happy if we just sell gosling, willo & jonas.. considering pardew likes to attack with defenders, santon should take jonass place as a winger.. but that means we should buy a defender who can play as CB & LB (sakho, vermaelen..or sth similar) & another striker like remy..

    & then…if theres money still avalible we should sign big striker like bent or sth similar & replace obertan with sinclair or ince..

    GK: krul, elliot
    LB: new LB/CB, haidara
    RB: debuchy, taylor
    CB: colo, mbiwa, taylor, newLB/CB
    RW: hatem (sinclar, ince)
    LW: santon, goufrann (remy)
    CM: cabaye, anita, tiote, moussa
    ST: cisse, (remy, bent?) goufrann campbel

    so new signings:
    new LB/CB: (sakho, vermaelen or..)
    RW: sinclar, ince, or??
    ST: remy? & big ST to replace shola (bent?)

    if we pulled this off we have a squad to compete for top 4 finish…

  • 34 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:10 PM

    is it the big issue

  • 35 Ben3arfa // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:10 PM

    Sky Sports understands Newcastle are in talks with PSV over keeper Jeroen Zoet

  • 36 kevymartins // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    The only team in our league that makes a big amout of profit would be arsenal and that’s because they have wenger.

  • 37 WWYCD // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    Newcastle go on for months about needing attacking option…spend the summer buying a back up GK

  • 38 kevymartins // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    Just think of what sort of money arsen wenger has brought to arsenal, champions league consistently, There untouchable season, and think how much he got to spend of it.

    And is you ask me arsenal are a pritty good team, so you don’t necessarily need to spend big.

  • 39 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    and they are happy just rolling along big difference i dont think it down to wenger totally excellent backroom, structure unlike ashley kinnear pardew and uncle tom cobbley and all

  • 40 kevymartins // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    @John you ask any arsenal fan and they will tell you arsenal’s 3 or 4 owners are totall co*ks they never gave them any money for years, and take everything. Stingy, And if they could have a take over they would tomorrow morning.

  • 41 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    Arsenal have fallen massively the last 5 years and the biggest criticism from fans, ex players, current arsenal players hell even the arsenal board is that he doesn’t spend enough when needed

  • 42 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    Seven games on the Telly 21pts – lucky to get 4 or 5
    Draw against Liverpool
    Draw against Mackems
    Win against West Brom

  • 43 headtheball // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    Looney runs a multi million pound business. Well I’m a particle physicist but I enjoy talking to the commoners. Any chance of a loan Looney?

  • 44 kevymartins // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    @Tads Arsenal have fallen massively the last 5 years?

    They have been in the top 4 for 16 years in a row.

  • 45 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:22 PM


    They haven’t come close to challenging for a title in years. In comparison to their expectations, they have failed their fans.

  • 46 WWYCD // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Arsenal used to challenge for trophies and titles now they struggle to get 4th…I’d say that’s falling

  • 47 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    We’ve been on this same topic with this cr@ppy atmosphere all day!! It’s so boring!

    I’d take the signing of Darren bent right now! Just to give us something else to talk about!!

    Quiet news day….!

  • 48 kevymartins // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    @WWYCD If we were in the top 4 would you call that failing because were not winning the league?

    It doesn’t matter about there expectations even though there failing there pritty much still winning they get champions league every season rake in money and there fans aren’t ashamed because there team is fighting a relegation battle.

  • 49 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    Yes massively
    Ask any arsenal fan, it’s been 8 years since they won a trophy, rarely go anywhere in the CL and have scraped CL qualification for the last 3 years are in huge danger of being overtaken by there most fierce rivals
    You ask an arsenal fan if there happy
    Even Wenger knows he needs to spend big this summer, he’s admitted that and is actively pursuing some massive targets

  • 50 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    may be so kevy but the question is

  • 51 WWYCD // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    Didn’t say fail I said falling, they have fallen from what they once were because football moved on around Wenger and they haven’t adjusted to it

    To be in CL for us is a huge achievement for them it’s minimum they expect

  • 52 Tommyy // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    Kevy – I would if we had been challenging the league and winning cups, a bit like I count us now as failing as before we were hitting the champs league – as a club of our size and stature should be.

  • 53 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    We were fighting a relegation battle because Ashley penny pinched last summer instead of maximising a huge opportunity to really kick on, our position is entirely down to the tw@ who runs the club

  • 54 kevymartins // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    @Tads wenger is entitled to spend money I wouldn’t even likee to know how much he has brought to arsenal. Look at the players he has made henry, van persie, wilsher, reyes,pires,gilberto silva, kolo toure,sol campbell. I think he can spend if he want’s but what exactly has pardrew brought to this club? Wenger had to work his way so should pardrew.

  • 55 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    Finances don’t do it for you?
    Pffftttt call yourself a football fan…….

  • 56 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    the fans may think what the f they like about who runs it the question is are they doing better than ashley the answer yes

  • 57 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    so your point in picking out me was

  • 58 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:35 PM

    Loving the hate mate, keep it coming.

    Think some of you are getting me wrong though.

    I UNDERSTAND what MA is doing, and why he doing it. I like most, if not all supporters wish we could get big players, play amazing football.

    BUT life is not like that, we have a good team, its getting better, look at it before relegation to now, and if thats mere buttons and 3 years, what will we have in 3 more years?!

    Its improving, albeit one step at a time but it is.

    As for people talking about finances saying they done give a flyer, well I would love to see you go to work on a day your company says …. “look we have no money to pay you with” see what you would do?

    Fact is its because of MA we have a team to watch and support, and that is probably closer to fact than opinion as the way we were going ….. I don’t like to think about it.

    As for most boring ever, half the comments on here I bypass as its all crap, so if am boring you sorry but bypass it, no one is asking you to read it.

    Its not exactly rocket science bloody hell!? I don’t respond to half the tripe on here, just ignore it. BUT if you wish to write an epic in return so be it, I will respond constructively and engage in conversation.

    Not the meer brainless “MA out” or “we are crap” or “why have we not signed anyone” …… its basic and boring, this is a blog not Facebook or Twitter!

  • 59 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    What has pardew bought?
    Ben arfa

    What’s your point?
    The fact that Wenger has money to spend and hasn’t is why the club are falling from grace, his arrogance is his biggest flaw
    He’s never replaced even half the players you have listed and the team look gutless and disjointed and spurs are rapidly gaining on them

  • 60 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    5th to 16th is improving?

    Is the improvement you’re referring to financial or football?

    Because it certainly isn’t on the field lad.

  • 61 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    Also quit referring to Mike Ashley as the saviour of this football club. It’s Stockholm Syndrome at its most embarrassing and is very unbecoming of someone who claims to be a Newcastle United fan.

  • 62 kevymartins // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    @Tads my point is wenger has made money to spend, he get’s around 30 million for just being in the champions league every season. What money has pardrew made? we sold AC and bought players with the money, where finishing low and bearly making a profit. There is nothing there to spend. So you would rather just keep spending and never get the clubs debt paid off?

  • 63 foggonridiculous // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:43 PM


    “I will respond constructively and engage in conversation.”

    I am struggling to square that with calling Ruddy a W@nker.

    Apology required methinks

  • 64 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    who gives a sh1t about arsenal or wenger the trouble is here with nufc not with no-one else

  • 65 Spotlight Kid // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Pawl1250@1,10…,58 etc.

    You are attempting to conflate value and profitability, which are two different entities. A company (say Google) can have zero profitability and a massive value; the opposite is also possible.

    In NUFC’s case, it is only returning profit as it is being bankrolled by Ashley, it is being bankrolled by Ashley because (supposedly) he did not do due diligence. In other words he overpaid for the club to the tune of the 100m black hole..

    Fat FS walked off with a wad, when it was he and his mates that should have taken that £100m hit – not the club. The club should have been sold at its real market value ie: the 2007 price (believed to be around £134m, but reports vary) minus the £100m black hole = £34m.

    Obviously this is very low, so it would then been up to Ashley to work out how much extra ‘opportunity cost’ he was willing to fork out to acquire the club PLUS this £100m incumbent debt – or simply walk away.

    Alas, the problem is not quite that simple as he was already a significant shareholder and the disclosure of the £100m hole would have sent his shares tumbling. So did MA already know about the debt and chose to play the game? It must remain a possibility, and if so he would then have crunched the figures to work out which way to treat the debt worked best for him.

    Either way, the club should have been sold at its real value as the artificial value inflation by non-disclosure has led to the £100m burden being placed on the club, when it should have been placed on the the wallets of owners, past or present.

    Whichever way the wind blows, the 2007 sale always smells funny – and the long term fallout is holding the club back to this day.

  • 66 WWYCD // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Ashley’s the reason we have a club to support? Dear me

    Tbf had he not priced out those who bought Man City we would be supporting Silva, Aguero and Yaya Toure by now swings and round abouts I suppose

  • 67 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:44 PM


    Had a little chuckle at that myself, thought it would seem petty if I mentioned it again though.

  • 68 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    Ruddy the squad

    Look at the squad, and last year was different, I honestly think if we had less injuries (serious concern btw) we would have moved up the table comfortably.

    Look am not asking you to believe me, or change your mind but the meer fact you have no considered how many injuries we actually had bemuses me!

    It was a special case, and I do not care who you are outside the top 6, hell Everton even if they had most of their starting team out, then most of the back up players at the same time and having kids appear, then they would have been in the same situation.

    This season, providing its more like the 5th season in terms of injuries (we will get some but not to that extent) you will see a top 10 finish, then look to improve on that with the goal to break top 6, then top 4 etc.

    You cannot do it overnight! Look at QPR and the money they spent! Did them wonders didn’t it?! Redknapp, a decent manager and still coudln’t do it!

    They spent a stupid amount of money!!! Why would you want to do that, they could have bought our team 2-3 times over? Money does not always solve the problem in terms of buying Shepard proved that with the tripe he bought!

    Keegan and Bobby are the only ones that bought sensible infact look how much Bobby spent it was mere buttons!!

  • 69 Patoon // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Holy fcuk some people need 2 get out and enjoy the good weather, sittin fanacising about who we could sign and thinking we’re not gonna sign any1, seriously needa get off ur laptops/computers, we will sign players, hav faith, negative thinking all the time, cant b good 4 ur health, transfer window is only little over a week old

  • 70 swisstone // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Just in reference to a previous article about Perdu’s record.

    I hate comparisons like that to previous or other managers. It can only be fair if both managers have exactly the same conditions.

    Course king kev had a better success rate, his team were far better than now and we were spending money like no ones business.

    Not defending AP, just saying what a pointless waste of time those comparisons are.

  • 71 kevymartins // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    Ruddy I bet you weren’t yapping about MA when he shelled out 18 million for owen or 10 million for cisse.

    This place is so negative. MA out ,MA out, not all fans wanna hear that sh!t

  • 72 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    You can’t get to champions league without spending man!
    Pardew got us qualified for Europe, said on numerous occasions that we needed to strengthen, Ashley ignored pardew as always was left with egg on his face we had a season ravaged with injuries which led to a disjointed line up every week
    You can contort or twist the situation and compare pardew to who ever the fact is we’re in the position were in because of one man only Mike Ashley, a man who was found to be a proven liar in court, which no doubt added to the debt which magically increases under Ashley every season by having to pay of keegan
    6 years of the fat fcuk and pardew is the only one who has bought us a decent season
    Don’t forget he didn’t get us relegated, but Mike Ashley did, think about that before you start praising MA

  • 73 swisstone // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    In terms of where we are now i do think its forgotten we were the biggest recruiters in jan.

    Pardew himself said we forced to make a couple of those signing earlier than we otherwise would have.

    Yes we need to strengthen but hardly doom and gloom

  • 74 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    oh my is that an owner cooking the booksor a bit of creative accounting going on. dear me mr ashley wouldn’t stoop so low as to pull that one

  • 75 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    I haven’t considered the injuries? I have, and I still believe Pardew didn’t cut the mustard.

    I’ve never once asked the club to spend stupid money so once more you’re assuming things that no one has said.

    If you think we will break the top 4 or even top 6 consistently with Ashley and Pardew then I am afraid you are deluding yourself.

  • 76 jazzyp // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Huddle stone to the dark side for 5 mill.another signing for di canio

  • 77 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM


    Ashley didn’t buy Owen…

  • 78 WWYCD // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    MA shelling out for Owen?

  • 79 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    kevy ,shepherd the creative signed owen play the game

  • 80 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    or confuss

  • 81 foggonridiculous // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:51 PM


    For you to cut and paste:

    “I don’t agree with you Ruddy but I SHOULDN’T have called you a w@nker. I was a VERY naughty boy and I apologise”

  • 82 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    Jazzy look back mate, Sunderland had 17 first team players as window opened, they need players!

    Thats what 14m now?! on what 7-9 players?!

    We spent 18m on 5 players in January!!

    Looked to buy PEA for 15m alone! Does not show ambition buying a load of players, in fact its worrying!

  • 83 savio // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    i think we as fans should not be that much concerned of our finances right now….If we can get a cabaye or a sissoko sort of signing,i will be more than happy with it…the important thing is that we need to sign some quality players…that doesnt mean we should spend like manchester city or something…we do have a strong base to buld on…maybe a couple of quality signings would do for this season…i would be happy with sinclair/remy,bent and a yound cb…the most important thing is to take care of our injury problems….there is something really wrong with our fitness team…that should be sorted out…if we could start the following team for atleast 30 games,we could have a really great season.


    Debuchy MYM Colo Santon

    Sissoko Anita/Tiote(Depending on the opposition and form)


    Ben Arfa Remy/Sinclair



  • 84 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:54 PM


    Signing players is worrying? Huddlestone would be an excellent signing for them, he has a great range of passing.

    If we’re talking about buying British, buying cheap, I wouldn’t have been adverse to signing Huddlestone for 5m and moving Tiote on.

  • 85 kevymartins // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    So if it’s gona make you miserable and negative everyday either get behind them or stop supporting them, You can’t support a team and not the owner, he controles everything.

    @Tads you can’t say he ignored pardrew he wen’t and bought 4 players if you recall, It was limbais fault for lack of communication, why you think kinnear is here now.

  • 86 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    out more to detract from todays frivolities and jackonapes

  • 87 Patoon // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    Any1 think of setting up a positive blogg and barr any negative talk off it

  • 88 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:55 PM


    So if we support Newcastle we have to like every single part of the club? Is that in some form of official policy or have you just made that up?

  • 89 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:56 PM


    I NEVER thought we would get in the EL again, but we did.

    We have a strong team, average manager I agree, but he did take us to 5th so give him time, see what happens.

    Also most people are moaning about no buys, or simply why we do not have ambition by not buying players now. INCLUDING YOU.

    Its the 11th of July not even August and you are desperate for signings …..

    “I don’t want the financial security of my club to suffer, but to suggest that we don’t have the capacity to invest in the way that other clubs around us are is ludicrous in my opinion.”

    We will invest, give them a chance. The number 1 target clearly was PEA, we didn’t get him and Pardew himself said they are looking to bring 2 strikers in, 4 or 5 targets. I admit its not guaranteed, but he too knows the issue of our squad, and what is needed to improve it.

  • 90 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    hes on freakin holiday

  • 91 kevymartins // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    That’s my bad got lost in my memory there, Pff owen 18 million biggest mistake the club ever made.

  • 92 WWYCD // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    I strongly disagree I support my team fully but like s**** do I support Ashley

  • 93 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    simples, the right in green and those who support the regime in red, fence sitters blue

  • 94 kevymartins // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    @Ruddy if you support newcastle it would make sense to get behind the man who controls everything don’t you think? If not they why are you supporting his club?

  • 95 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    Wow four players you say!
    Who? We had Anita for the first team, then Curtis good for the reserves amalfitano (freebie) for the reserves and bigi who surprised everyone by featuring
    Where was the CF we still needed? Or the RB? Or the CB?
    Oh yeah nowhere, that’s right blame dekka because mike has no idea what’s going on at his own club ffs!
    Who employed dekka? Who employs pards? Who’s the only one with the power to change something at the club when it’s not working?

  • 96 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:00 PM


    I shouldnt have called you a w@nker but seriously you need to grow up and let things go “sticks and stones”.


    You really need to stop stirring the pot, trying to cause more issues by bringing things up over and over …..its you being the w@nker right now.

    Jesus its a word, I didnt realise I was killing people in process….. calm down?

  • 97 Jail for Ashley // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    Spotlight kid,
    You are excellent !

  • 98 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    like the arsenal fans behind there club owners

  • 99 ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~ // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    Imo, Kinnear is a bigger mistake then Owen.,,

    at least Owen warms the benches for the other lads… Kinnear just spouts nonsense and pi$$es everyone off by getting their names wrong.

  • 100 foggonridiculous // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    pawl it takes a man to apologise and clearly you are a long way short of that.

  • 101 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    everyone has the right off opinion no likey no ready certainly no slagging poster

  • 102 Jail for Ashley // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    Would you have urged the sufferinng people of Cambodia to get behind Pol Pot simply because he was brother number one and controlled everything.

  • 103 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    damn stumps….. of

  • 104 jazzyp // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    They can sign 23 players for all I care bud and spend what they want.
    If it was to be true of trying to sign pea for 15 mill and he decided to join bd-gutted but who can blame the lad for going to a club that has aspirations and is run in the correct manner

  • 105 kevymartins // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    @Jail for ash …I can’t see him selling anytime soon so just get on with it, Why sit and slabber about him then go give him your money? He is laughing at nufc fans.

  • 106 nightfa11 // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    ppl who say: pardew brought marveaux, cabaye, santon, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.. wtf?

    pardew didnt bring shit..BUT lets say he bought all those players in..if thats true hes a complete idiot, cos he bought players who cant play his “style”..

  • 107 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    they could sign one ill be happy to start with, then we find out he is a nancy boy cack footballer on big monies

  • 108 ~ Phoenix Warrior Perch~ // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    Adam le Fondre would be a good buy. An improvement.. something Darren Bent isn’t.

  • 109 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    i could go for that choice

  • 110 croftus5678 // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    you gotta laugh after sitting back and looking at this that we are talking like the transfer window has shut and that we know whats going to happen next season !

    i’m hoping for good things come the end of the window i’m fairly upset so far that we never actually signed anyone on opening day as i was hoping we had a pre-contract aranged with someone but i’ll wait till close of window before i make a judgement on weather we got it right or wrong i think.

  • 111 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    Pawl spends most his time telling people what they should be posting for the good of the blog etc blah blah blah yet is the one who always resorts to name calling first
    Sounds about right!

    Great post

  • 112 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    at kevy hes not laughing at me he gets not a penny from me

  • 113 Novocastrian66 // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    If Le Fondre is an improvement, it only highlights the weaknesses in our squad. The lad spent the most of last season getting spelks in his arse.
    Not for me.

  • 114 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    would you rather have spelks or goals we can just about afford him remy pea bony no chance

  • 115 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:18 PM


    If you think you it’s acceptable to get through life throwing insults for no reason then I feel sorry for you. How do I need to grow up? I didn’t hurl childish insults.

    Also, the lack of ambition does not simply apply to this window, it applies to nigh on every single transfer window since Ashley has taken over the club, with the exception of a few windows where we brought in real quality. It needs to be consistent!

    At least you admit that investment is not guaranteed…


    I don’t support the club because of the owner, if that is what you’re asking? Seems like an odd question if you ask me.

  • 116 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    cut one’s coat according to one’s cloth springs to mind

  • 117 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    and he is an improvement on nothing

  • 118 pizzicatochan // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    Since we are letting go a lot of players, we need some more in. le Fondre has a good scoring record against us. He could do a job for us.

    Someone like Grant Holt can be too. These are prime time scorers.

  • 119 nut meg // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    If anyone has any doubts about what Paw1250 was saying go to INJURYLEAGUE.COM
    it’s late over here i’m off to my scratcher cos i’m losing the will to f*****g live again!!
    Paw1250 i’m with you bonny lad,although i don’t understand finance i do know that you have explained your points very well but some people are just so pig headed that your probably banging your against a brick wall. Horse & water rings a bell.night all

  • 120 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:24 PM


    Holt signed for Wigan…and is s***

  • 121 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    Nut Meg
    Who’s disagreeing that we had an injury crisis? Absolutely nobody, but are you saying that it still would of been a crisis if Ashley had strengthened in the summer when he was supposed to?

  • 122 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    the thing with forwards it catch 22 good proven = money
    good proven= age
    age = no sell on value
    youth = no expirience

  • 123 toon kk // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    Ive just been watching highlights of some of our games last season and I had forgotten just how static we were. It’s as if we can’t beat them so why bother trying. Poor, there’s work to do before next season.

  • 124 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    ashley employed pardew pardews coaching = disaster

  • 125 plana // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:30 PM

    Looks like Krulls off to the Gunners!

  • 126 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:32 PM


    Unless they’re prepared to pay over 10m for him I can’t see him going anywhere.

  • 127 Joe Blog // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:32 PM


    Seeing your spiel today, compared with a year ago, it’s hilarious. I haven’t seen a bigger u-turn since…. nope, this is the biggest u-turn I’ve ever seen – I’ll be using “the biggest u-turn since Ruddy….”, from now on.

  • 128 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    could be good move for us terrible things dislocations for keepers good luck to him

  • 129 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:36 PM


    Call it spiel if you want, I’ve explained my position. If I dismissed the evidence regarding the quality of the football last season and defended Pardew to the hilt I’d not be staying true to reason.

    Don’t see how my opinion either way impacts upon you in any way though, perhaps you wish to mimic me once more to entertain yourself?

  • 130 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    Wow…more conversations on accounts, profits and debts…

    It’s a sad state of affairs that some of you are so happy to call MA tight and our club rich, that you don’t even bother to consider whether those statements are even true! Ok, some of you may not have the finance smarts to grasp the accounts, but then why not believe some of the people who do?

  • 131 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:43 PM


    Because we don’t care. That is what you fail to grasp. We want a successful club, any which way we can and success means on field progression, not improving balance sheets.

  • 132 Novocastrian66 // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    JT didn’t say he isn’t an improvement. Just shows how rubbish we are. I would like to think we would set our sights a bit higher. Wishful thinking? Perhaps.

  • 133 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    Joe Blog

    They’re the most frustrating sort of fans to talk to…the ones who were saying that we’d qualify for the champions league last year, that Pardew might be tapped up for Utd/England and that Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Tiote, Cisse, Ba, Krul were all worth about £30M each…

    Now, the same muppets are saying that Pardew is completely useless, our squad is too thin, we need to spend tens of millions or we’ll get relegated etc.


  • 134 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    shit more accounts talk, get yourselves to accountants anonymous i here you can stand up and sprout drivel to your hearts content

  • 135 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    we as fans don’t need to set our sights higher its the know nowts upstairs in power that need to

  • 136 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    I’m both a w@nker and a muppet?

    And yet these people take the high ground, call me unreasonable, call me a bully and say that I condescend and patronise.

    If you take two seconds to just turn the spotlight on yourself you would know that you are the very thing you accuse me of.

    Some seriously pathetic people here who claim they simply want reasoned debate, yet are woefully incapable of having one.

  • 137 Jay K // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    Areet lads
    Anyone know when the team go away to Portugal might get mesel along training tomorrow

  • 138 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:49 PM


    Pawl spends most his time telling people what they should be posting for the good of the blog etc blah blah blah yet is the one who always resorts to name calling first
    Sounds about right!”

    You must like making things up in your head, I have never told anyone what to post for the “good of the blog” everyone has the write what they wish. Some contradict themselves I simply point that out….

    So you jumping on the whole band wagon thing over 1 word “w@anker” is abit ridiculous, why not get off your high horse pet.

    Making things up in that head of yours…..

  • 139 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:49 PM


    I understand that you want success, we all do. But if we tell you that the club just doesn’t have the money to spend the amounts you want, why don’t you listen?

    There are only two possible ways that we can have the kind of success that is the only way to make fans like you happy:
    1 – gradual progression over several years, buying players with resale value, selling them when a huge bid comes in, not paying huge wages even after a player becomes useless to us, developing our youth team. Even if we do it right, this will take several years before we can be a fixture in the top 8, let alone 6 or 4.

    2 – we could get an owner like Man City, Chelski, PSG or QPR. There are only a certain number of owners like that in the world, FFP will make it more difficult anyway, and personally I don’t like this Championship Manager attitude to football. I’ve found myself wanting Man Utd to win the league simply because I don’t want City or Chelski to win it.

  • 140 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:51 PM


    Because I said I don’t care about the finances does not mean I do not understand them. I’ve read the accounts.

    The money is there, don’t be delusional.

  • 141 jazzyp // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    I was doing the same last weekend mate.some games we were shocking.what became apparant more and more was how crap we were in one half and how well we played in the 2nd half or visa versa.
    I was up for the game against city last season and the first half we could have been 5 or 6 nill down.the 2nd half we played amazing and looked like the team of the previous season

  • 142 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:54 PM


    Only if the cap fits mate…

    If you were one of the people thinking that 5th place was an immediate stepping stone and that CL qualification last season was all but guaranteed, then I think you should stand up and admit you were being a muppet.

    Likewise, I’ve seen plenty of muppets on here stating that we’re going to get relegated next season too.

    Where’s the balance? When we finished 5th, that was overachievement based on key players staying fit and excelling. Really, our squad was only good enough for about 9th or 10th. Last season we underachieved due to key players being injured or off form for a lot of the season, though we should have finished around 8th or 9th.

    Next season, assuming we get at least a striker in, we should be finishing 7th or 8th.

  • 143 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:55 PM


    I called you unreasonable? bully? PLEASE COPY AND PASTE?

    You guys just twist things up in your own little world you call a head.

    I am all up for debate, but some people like yourself are so biased its almost like your opinion is fact. I merely point out some things are not fact by stating my own opinion.

    Whether you choose to read, accept it or whatever is up to you.

    Yet just because I do not want to jump on your little band wagon of MA out for my own reasons I have stated thats my prerogative, as much as it is for you to say otherwise.

    Again another on their little pedestal thinking they are all high and mighty twisting words.

    My god you would think none of you have been called a w@anker before its almost like a crime on this blog. Its 1 word, sorry if I upset you so much that you cannot live anymore, you would think its a mass crime the way people are acting…..

    Like you have not called anyone the same thing before! GOD contradiction much?!

    Full of contradictors on this blog….. FACT! not opinion, I know the difference before people like to spout the same thing off over and over, but it is a actual FACT!

  • 144 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:55 PM


    You’re in no place to call anyone childish names.

    You’ve rendered the rest of your post null and void as a result.

  • 145 toon kk // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:55 PM

    TDS……..are you a Newcastle fan? Or are you an accountant for MA? Personally I don’t give a sh.t. I just want to see us have a bit of success or at least show ambition.

  • 146 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    and whose job to deliver the consistency in the games by altering tactics when found out or having game plans

  • 147 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:56 PM


    I wasn’t referring to you specifically, merely interesting that people hurl insults at me yet the common gripe people have of me is that I am abusive.

    The world doth not revolve around you good sir.

  • 148 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    But it simply isn’t. We spent 69% of our revenue on wages in 2011-12. That’s higher than the accepted maximum recommended level for PL football clubs. We also have a large debt to MA. Around £90M of this was to banks under Shepherd. Would you prefer that it still was and we had to pay interest?

  • 149 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    Lol okay buddy, you weren’t the one who we were lucky to have educate the fans!

    You seem to continually confuse asking for some ambition or strengthening in key positions as spending like citeh utd or chelski
    That’s not the case not one person has said we need to spend £20+ mil on a CF or £15 mil on a CB
    We all know that Carr can find gems for good prices
    So why don’t you think the money is there to invest say £18-20 mil on say 3-4 players, because it is

  • 150 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:58 PM


    The fact that our revenues will drastically increase next season with the added income from the bumper TV deal negates that argument.

  • 151 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM


    But I didn’t hurl an insult at you specifically. I was agreeing with someone else that people who went overboard when we finished 5th and are now overly negative after last season are muppets. Like I said afterwards, if the cap fits…but it wasn’t aimed at you. Frankly, I have no memory of what you were posting after we finished 5th, so I don’t know if you’re a muppet or just overly negative.

    And you’re also a child if you refuse to consider valid point in my post because of a perceived insult that wasn’t even there.

  • 152 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:00 PM


    I called you w@anker…. you said it in your post, therefore meaning me. THEN you said these people….. that would be a standard inclusion of whoever called you muppet, and me the guy who called you w@anker…..

    World revolves around me…. what tosh…. you like making things up in your little head mate, its all you do! Twist words in the process.

    Rendering you point invalid in the process 😉

  • 153 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    You say
    Where’s the balance? When we finished 5th, that was overachievement based on key players staying fit and excelling. Really, our squad was only good enough for about 9th or 10th. Last season we underachieved due to key players being injured or off form for a lot of the season, though we should have finished around 8th or 9th.

    Next season, assuming we get at least a striker in, we should be finishing 7th or 8th.

    How do you figure that
    Can you predict the injuries we will have next season?
    And we have all ready lost 3 players 2 of which played large parts last season with the possibility of more to still go out

  • 154 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    toon kk

    We all do. But come on…tell me what you realistically want? Exactly what you want the club to do. I’d quite like us to sign Messi, Ronaldo and Iniesta on frees because they buy themselves out of their contracts and desperately want to play for us…but that ain’t gonna happen.

    So tell me what you realistically want, I’ll probably tell you why it’s not realistic after all, and then we’re all happy with some realistic expectations.

  • 155 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    ruddy is a realist

  • 156 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:02 PM


    What are you going on about…. seriously educate the fans?!

    This is a blog…. its meant to share opinion…. my opinion is what I write…. you choose to read that opinion is up to you.

    Educate fans lol again in your little head. Loving this like, show me where I pointed out I will “educate” fans? PLEASE?

    Errrrrrm you wont find it, because I never said it lol

  • 157 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:03 PM


    You’re referring to people as muppets, something you have no right to do, so yes I am afraid that does impinge upon the validity of your post.


    You really are quite sad aren’t you? Like I said earlier, perhaps you and TDS would be happier discussing accounts, this is a rare occasion where I’m allowing you the last word.

    Enjoy it 😉

  • 158 Toon_Tom // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    It’s not simply new signings that we require – we need new tactics, a new approach and a new f’ing formation.

    No more square pegs in round holes, no more hoooof ball, no more defending with 30mins to play, no more cameo roles for Shola. If we continue to train the same and keep to the same Pardew’esq tactics then it honestly doesn’t matter who we bring in.

    The current set up needs addressed first before throwing new ‘flair players in to the mix.

    Anyway, next season Marveux will be like a new signing, again 😉


    In other news – lets not try to wind each other up constantly.

  • 159 SeanNufc87 // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    Dear Lord this blog gets worse with every day that passes with no signings

  • 160 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    in a manager the saying is also true form is temporary class permanent the 5 th place finish was temporary and prious record he has no class

  • 161 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    Ok mate you say so

  • 162 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:06 PM


    I will …..

    Simply because someone chooses to disagree with you, its almost like they are immediately wrong.

    My beliefs are my beliefs, yours are your own too.

    Just because we disagree does not mean for any second that we are both wrong, they are mere opinions is all.

    Calm down, and perhaps read what people say and understand they have a right just as much as you to share what they think.

    I know I do. I understand your concern, beliefs and accept them. But I do not wholeheartedly agree with them.

  • 163 kevymartins // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    @Ruddy no offence mate but how come 9 times out of 10 I come on here and there is people arguing your one of them?

  • 164 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:07 PM


    Well done pet, well done.

  • 165 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:08 PM



  • 166 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    ashley so tight he wont buy pens

  • 167 HullMag6 // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:10 PM

    Sign both PSV and Reading Keepers if we let Krul go to Arsenal but only if the Ox comes the other way.

    Did someone say we’re after bendtner? As what – an upgrade on shola only maybe.

    I hope Tim stays but if he choses to go for European competition and cementing an international position then I can’t blame him.

  • 168 kevymartins // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:10 PM

    Give it a rest lads, Go get a nice big glass of coke and a packet of crisp and chill out. 😀

  • 169 kevymartins // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:10 PM

    Southampton just signed victor wanyama. Good player.

  • 170 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:11 PM

    lets agree to disagree

  • 171 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    we made a bid for coco

  • 172 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:14 PM


    As stated the reason he argues is because he thinks his opinion is 100% categorically correct, and cannot fathom anyone thinking otherwise.

    Therefore steps on them if they do so, resulting in what you see 9 times out of 10.

    I understand his concerns for the club, inside me I have them doubts myself. BUT you cannot expect us to challenge top 4, as the reality of the situation is we are simply not good enough yet.

    But we are improving using a financially stable forumla, which allows mistakes like Obertan to happen rather than an Afonso Alves for 18m or whatever it is and he be a complete flop.

    No one can guarantee Bony will be amazing, and if he is not that is 12m down the drain for a not so big club!

    Time will only tell, this will allow us to develop over time and improve. We have done so in my opinion, and last year was a blip in the improvement due to injuries. I am strong believer of that.

    Likes of Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Cisse not fit, and likes of Mbiwa, Sissoko adjusting to a much stronger league.

  • 173 toon kk // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    Who’s saying we should be paying ridiculous amounts of money on players like Messi ect?????? Get a grip. All real fans with passion for the club want a bit of ambition it needn’t cost a fortune. Hell you’ve been brain washed by the MA .

  • 174 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    Yup he’s a cracking player

  • 175 GeordieTwo // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    I see no sign of leadership at the club with Joe in there. Is he aware of how far behind other mid table clubs we are in decent signings now? Probably not. Joe lives in his own little world, disconnected from reality. Much like his pal Ashley.

  • 176 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    Toon KK

    What would you like to see happen at our club?

    Genuinely…. what would you like?

  • 177 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    Also define ambition for the club?

  • 178 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    pawl wrong formations square pegs blah blah enough excuses already

  • 179 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:20 PM


    I have only ever made 1 excuse for Pardew, I felt for him last season. People said he was saying it over and over but injuries were a major factor in my opinion.

    No other club had the impact like we did. Injuries pretty much wrecked any hope we had for a decent season.

    I can fault Pardew on numerous occasions, but his squad selection was limited the majority of the season, still that does not excuse him putting Cisse on the wing and Shola down the middle admittedly, and he needs to improve his tactics.

    But I am willing to give him time as he did well season before.

  • 180 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:21 PM


    Don’t forget, spending say £20M on 4 players might mean adding around £120kpw to the wage bill, that’s around £6M a year.

    But yeah, I’d agree with you really. We’ve already shipped out a few players and we may well ship out a couple more. So if we spend £15-20M on say 3 players I’ll be pretty happy. And I think it’s realistic.

    I also believe that we will do that, but why are people being so negative and convinced that we won’t?

  • 181 toon kk // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    Pawl…… to to show ambition.

  • 182 geordie157 // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    We really could do with some signings!

    Swansea added Bony and now are closing on Granero. Southampton Wanyama, Norwich added Olsson and are likely to get Toivonen and Fer.

    The mid table sides are strengthening well. And now Sunderland are getting Giaccherini

  • 183 surreytoon // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    Pawl250, Bony has reportedly signed at Swansea for £12.5m. I think it makes your point.

    You are pretty much the sole voice of reason on here, I largely agree with everything you say, but you don’t address potential problem we have with tactics and Pardew from what i’ve seen.

  • 184 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    deep down we all realise something is wrong .Its not being corrected by Ashley or if it is its not apparent yet when it is corrected it may be too late

  • 185 GeordieTwo // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    I’ll give you some ideas for the club paw1250 @176:
    1. an owner with football ambition
    2. a DoF with some connection to the modern game
    3. a manager who wants European football and isn’t just an excuse maker
    4. a desire to return the club to being something we are all proud of instead of a continual laughing stock. With hirings like Kinnear, Wise, Jimenez we are a joke thanks to our owner. Save the club financially but destroy its heart and soul. A despicable man with no clue as far as decent behavior is concerned.

  • 186 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:24 PM


    Our squad value, our wage bill, our revenue all put us as the 7th/8th biggest club in the PL. So that should be where we finish. But you’re right, football is unpredictable and that’s what makes it fun. So it’s possible that we’ll have injuries and a bad season and finish lower and it’s possible that we’ll have a cracking season and finish 5th or 6th.

  • 187 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:25 PM


    I agree, we will sign 3-4 players max. They will cost between 17m – 25m. Remy, De Jong, Zoet (from looks of things) and a central defender who is happy to play 3rd fiddle for a season or 2 N’Koulou or Kouyate are both realistic.

    And we will sell about 3 more aswell as loan more out.

    I am hoping to see the back of Shola, Obertan, Gosling.

  • 188 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    and we are getting piles sitting on our ar5e5

  • 189 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    he who dares wins

  • 190 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:26 PM


    Sorry, I forgot that “muppets” is such a rude word and that grown men sulk when they are referred to as such. I’ll stand by my statement that those reactionary people are muppets and they are bloody frustrating fans. If you want to label yourself as such, then so be it.

  • 191 surreytoon // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    @179 Pawl250
    Fair enough, but the signs are not good

  • 192 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    hear hear 185

  • 193 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    Toon kk

    We sign Remy (8m), De Jong (8m), Zoet (2m) and N’Koulou (5m) for 23m?

    See Perch 500k (rounded) Shola 500k Obertan 1m Gosling 1m thats 20m

    And based on past season we can suspect to spend net around that amount.

  • 194 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    toon kk

    I asked it before and so did pawl too.

    Tell me about your ambition for this club. Or are you one of these fans who will harp on about ambition and signing players but doesn’t actually know what he actually wants? Do you need multiple choice?

  • 195 LeToonARMY // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    tbh i cant see us doing to well next season look at Swansea they have got bony now, we are going to struggle, i can see it been a bottom half finish this season

  • 196 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    The reason people are concerned we won’t is because we seemingly have an owner a manager a chief scout and a DOF who all seem to want different things
    The DOF and manager have not been supportive of each other, certainly not in interviews, if anything there’s been little digs at each other and pardew also seemingly having pops at MA just like last summer

  • 197 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    except point 2 he needs a connection with every day life not la-la land

  • 198 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:32 PM


    I’d be comfortable seeing the back of Shola, Obertan, Gosling, Jonas and Willo if we sign suitable upgrades. There’s no way that we’ll sign a central defender unless Saylor or Willo go.

    I would have been happy with 2 attacking signings, but now that we’ve sold Perch and Gosling looks like he’s out too, I hope we’re able to replace them in the squad too.

  • 199 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    Geordie Two

    We are a joke because before all this we demanded the head of the majority of our managers in almost a conveyor belt fashion with months apart from each other.

    We are a joke because we have fans punching horses and rioting after a football match, then coming out stating he was attempting to stroke it or whatever his excuse was.

    We are a joke admittedly for the failure of PR during the appointment of JK and his following interviews.

    We are not a joke for football, or Pardew, or MA. My opinion of course.

    Pardew is lacking sometimes in the tactical department, but criticising your plays does not improve squad morale. I feel Di Canio will suffer from his poor ability to defend his team, to save face for himself. Pardew also has been restricted at times by MA like last summer. He was also restricted by injuries.

    He finished 5th, not an easy feat in the current PL, but he did. I feel deserves another shot before the boot. BUT being negative towards him, the team and club will not improve matters. It only makes them worse!

  • 200 kevymartins // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:34 PM

    @Letoon they have bony but that have a huge amount of more matches to play in the europa league, Lets see how well they do next year.

  • 201 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    Pawl – If we did that and signed those players, some on here would still find reason to complain!

    Uphill battle, my friend! 🙂

  • 202 GeordieTwo // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:36 PM

    paw1250 you actually believe our owner is going to spend 17M – 25M pounds this summer? I don’t. He’s still waiting for the price of both Bent and Remy to come down further and even then we will try a lowball bid for both of them and fail. I would be surprised if we spend beyond 10-12M pounds which means 1 or at most 2 incoming. And only if we get it in gear.

  • 203 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:38 PM


    But that’s unbelievable speculation! You’re reading negativity into a situation when you don’t need to. There are always bound to be conflicts in the workplace, and especially in emotive places like football clubs, that’s not a problem as long as they can work together.

    There is no question whatsoever that JFK stuck his big fat foot in it with a couple of interviews early on where he appeared to have a case of verbal diarrhea. No doubt about that. But as long as he finds a way to work with Pardew behind the scenes and doesn’t continue to do such stupid interviews, then I’ll be able to overlook that.

    I want Carr to be telling Pardew and JFK about this amazing young player, I want Pardew to be telling Carr that the player doesn’t fit in with the way he wants to play, I want JFK to tell Pardew that he can’t have this other amazing player because the club doesn’t want to sell him, and I want MA to tell JFK that he can’t sign a particular player because the budget isn’t there. Well…I’d rather he said that the budget was there, but someone has to look after the business side of the club, That’s the way it should work.

  • 204 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    Geordie 2 – we did bid around £15mil for PEA mate.

    Yes we might’ve suspected it to be rejected, but it was very much a genuine show of interest.

  • 205 toon kk // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    It’s obvious pards wants one or two new faces in but its all down to MA. He’ll be just like us, we’ll just have to wait and see what happens.

  • 206 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    Surreytoon –

    Pardew is on a mountain, he is currently at the bottom and on what I would regard as thin ice.

    I can already see come Man City game in the inevitable and expected defeat all the haters and doom and gloomers.

    Like we expect to compete with Man City these days? 2 Players cost the entire of our squad!

    But to the point, I agree Pardew and his tactics are sometimes questionable, but at times he has it bang on. I feel the Benfica games were not his fault, the team was to blame. The 2nd leg he nailed it for tactics and I cannot fault the players work rate too.

    BUT he was restricted. Remember he sees players every day in training, and like all supporters we question why is Jonas on the pitch or SAF got Carrick or AW got why is Oxe not starting and so on.

    He, and them see the players everyday. He knows the fitness levels, mental attitude, and playing ability. Do you really think any manager selects a team to lose?

    I feel his team set ups at times can be questionable in terms of Shola central and Cisse wing, but he must have reasons for doing it. His long ball tactics are frustrating when we have good ball players at the club. His set pieces set up is appalling, I mean long ball to Willo or Taylor has NEVER worked for 2 years, really cannot see it working next week, or week after.

    BUT he has managed to get us 5th, against extraordinary odds. Last season alot of things did not go our way, and you may call it excuses but I believe they had a massive effect. AND he is right 1 win would have had us 10th, and position we may have dreamed for towards the end.

    I mean Wigan 2 handballs, no red card and a obvious penalty not given they managed to scrape it…..

    Cisse goals disallowed, 4 I can count that were obvious…..

    It all adds up, and injuries, the whole new guy syndrome, language barrier.

    I feel this season is the time to judge, and hopefully the fitness problem will be resolved!!

  • 207 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    Southampton signed Wanyama for £12.5M??? Wow…that’s a crazy amount of money for a 21 year old who has only player in small leagues. Saying that, he did do well in the CL for Celtic.

    You see, a player like this could end up being the next Fellaini, but then I’d expect bigger clubs that Southampton to have been in for him.

    This is the kind of player we used to sign and pay £60kpw. Then when he turned out to be rubbish, we kept paying his damn wages because nobody else would…

  • 208 GeordieTwo // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    Good point TorqToon@204. But now Pardew has clearly stated that both Bent and Remy are on our striker list. They are worth much less for a number of reasons mate but that will only please Ashley. I could see them both coming to us for about 9-10 M pounds. Not a bad deal if both get down to it and play hard.

  • 209 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:44 PM


    From what I understand, wasn’t the PEA bid rejected purely based on the player’s preference? We weren’t actually outbid by BvB were we?

  • 210 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    If we did sign Bent and Remy, they’d probably cost around £12-13M combined and their wages combined would be more than we would have been willing to pay PEA.

  • 211 Billythefish // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    Ashley’s business model money wise for the club is good, but the business he is running is entertainment and that’s been pathetic.
    No wonder he is hanging Pardew out to dry.
    I think Pardew has the tools just has no idea how to use them.
    Can’t stand the pair of them and throw joking ear into the equation and its a recipe for disaster this coming season.

  • 212 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    TDS – I suspect none of the bigger clubs would pay that kind of money for a somewhat unproven player.

    He has cracking potential, but apparently quite a lot of clubs were put off by the demands for a release fee. I, for one, hope Newcastle don’t include such clauses for our players ever again!

    The Ba scenario nearly did me in! 🙂

  • 213 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:48 PM

    How is it speculation? You must of read pardews interviews lately, he’s had a swipe at JFK in every one where JFK has been bought up
    He publicly hounded Ashley all last summer for investment, it never happened and he had to backtrack
    Now he’s doing similar
    Just because you choose not to read it does not mean its not there

  • 214 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    Geordie Two

    We have spent 20 million+ in the past 2 seasons

    Ok we have sold, but other than Ba would you have not sold those players?

    Ba was a forced hand….. feel we could really do with 2 strikers and both JK and Pardew have acknowledged the fact we need them.

    I foresee 20m expenditure, possibly a few million more. It really depends who we look for and what to strengthen.

    Remy and De Jong should cost 15m, Bent 5m would almsot see our attacking options the best we have had since Shearer, Ferdy and Asprilla.

    I think we wont sign all 3. But I do think 20m will be spent, we also have more TV money this year than normal so cannot see why he wont?

    Just looking for the right players, and of course the right value. Why over pay, we have paid relatively small amounts for the standard of players we have in our squad. Its almost unthinkable that we could sell some players for 3-4x the value we paid!

  • 215 GeordieTwo // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    Some good debate going on today despite the antagonism. It’s amazing to see the different views of the same club. I still look at it and say we are a club who finished 16th last season and still have done nothing to improve the club. Why dither and make lowball offers if you are committed and know what you are doing and who you are after? Especially if there is 17-25M available in the transfer kitty? 🙂

  • 216 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:52 PM


    I was very surprised when Everton signed Fellaini to be honest, but that didn’t work out too badly!

    I don’t think it’s a problem when the release fee is massive like they often are in Spain, but I imagine if the transfer fee was £12.5M, then the release fee will actually be around £18-£20M. Still reasonable for the top clubs and if they do want him then Saints get a little profit and will have had at least a couple of seasons from a top class player.

    But no…I don’t want us to sign players where it’s actually written into their contract that we are a stepping stone!

  • 217 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    TDS – From what I gather, we had offered an amount higher than BvB, but after being informed of the desire if pea, realised it was a lost cause. I dont beieve it was rejected, or that we “missed out on him”, but more a case of his heart was already in Germany.

  • 218 Robin // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    Every team is signing rite now, we arent signing everyone though

  • 219 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    YET when we signed likes of Owen etc. in past his value only decreased!

    Times have changed, and the squad overall is improving and is fairly young!!

    I think we have one of the youngest average ages, and that was when Harper was still around!

  • 220 tom68 // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    Hi Torq

    Have you heard any more about us bringing in some foreign coaches to help Pards out.
    I think that’s the most important signing we could make

  • 221 jazzyp // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    Torq-evening bud,can we just talk football rather than the same old same old that’s been banded around all day on here

  • 222 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    One of the youngest 4th

    and Biggest 5th in the PL

    People say we are “thin” and our policy is awful!

  • 223 Sazzer // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:55 PM

    Player preference.

  • 224 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:55 PM


    The way I read Pardew’s comments is that he’s been trying to defuse the antagonism directed at the club by the fans. He’s been seeking to clarify the fact that he’s still in charge of the squad.

    He’s made it clear that he wasn’t happy with the Kebab comments too, and so he should have.

    I wouldn’t have hired JFK and if I had then I’d have sacked him right after that interview…but he’s there not so MA, JFK, Carr and Pardew will find a way to work together for the benefit of the club. That’s what professionals do. I’ve frequently had to work with colleagues that I thought were complete t*ss*rs and maybe we had a frosty relationship sometimes, but when it came to work we focussed on what we had to do.

  • 225 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    Geordie 2 – This blog is at its best when it’. Good debate mixed with both conflict, humour and wishful thinking.

    All the talk of finances etc doesn’t interest me! MA can do what he wants with his money, but throwing a few quid our way would be nice!

    All I know is its very very quiet on all our targets. None of them being linked with other clubs, and nothing from agents trying to tout them.

    I still believe…

  • 226 toon kk // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    It would be surprising everyone on here would feel so much happier if a quality striker was signed up. Apart from …..pawl and TDS……They would be worried we went bankrupt.

  • 227 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 6:59 PM


    Yep. That was what I understood too. The only player I’ve been slightly disappointed on not getting so far has been PEA.

  • 228 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    Jazzy – You saying club finances bores you?!?? How VERY dare you! Haha

    Tom – I’m hearing contrasting reports re that side of things. Given the frosty atmosphere on here of late, makes you think twice before posting.

    After all…I DID appoint Joe kinnear single handedly! Ha

  • 229 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    toon kk

    Your blathering means absolutely nothing unless you can answer the question that I asked (and re-asked) some time ago…


    We all do. But come on…tell me what you realistically want? Exactly what you want the club to do. I’d quite like us to sign Messi, Ronaldo and Iniesta on frees because they buy themselves out of their contracts and desperately want to play for us…but that ain’t gonna happen.

    So tell me what you realistically want, I’ll probably tell you why it’s not realistic after all, and then we’re all happy with some realistic expectations.

  • 230 Ibizatoon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    Good evening toon fans, all in good spirits I see!

    The idea of reasoned debate is a little bit lost at the minute given the rollercoaster of a season we’ve just had, loads of reasonable but perhaps incorrect doubt and of course the normal drama and panic of silly season.

    Let’s try and not let it get us down though guys. We don’t need to be turning on each other…we’ve got a long season of football coming up when we get to do that 🙂

  • 231 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    Toon KK

    Have you been taking lessons from TADS and Ruddy?

    Where have I said I never wanted to sign a player, infact to contrary I have always and Torq can back me up wanted De Jong and Remy!!

    PEA for me was never my main target, I rather have 2 new boys than 1! For roughly the same price!!

    I think they over much more versatility too

    —————- Sissoko – Cabaye ————–
    Ben Arfa ——— De Jong ———— Remy
    ———————- Cisse ———————-

    Would be amazing to watch moving forward!

  • 232 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    TDS – Me too! Would’ve loved him at this club. Would also have loved RVW bit Norwich nabbed him a long time ago!

    Cracking bit of business, like!

    Bony, Carroll, Douglas et al, not bothered.

  • 233 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:03 PM


    Do they actually need foreign coaches though? Or do they just need coaches who have experience working with more of a passing style requiring technique? One problem is that whatever the coaches are doing, Pardew has to have a firm grasp of the style of play so that he can implement it on match day.

  • 234 Rotonda heights // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:03 PM


    N’Koulou 5m, try 12!!

  • 235 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:04 PM


    You heard anything on Remy/De Jong front?

    Danno said, although skeptical it was too be expected around Friday/weekend.

    I kind of thinking its all off now, being all quiet. AND Danno has not made much noise recently.

  • 236 Ibizatoon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    Does no one else think that this financial debate is getting a little silly? It’s lost any middle ground it may have had.

    I don’t think anyone is saying we shouldn’t spend anything so that we can have a nice profit at the end of the season and that’s all they care about, nor do I think many (there will always be some) want the club to spend stupid money either, they just want the club to strengthen and address the areas which need so…like they started doing 2 summers ago.

    I will as always bide my time, whilst I’d have liked our transfers to have been done early, it isn’t always possible. I know where the doubt comes from, but in the past the club have also surprised me so I have no reason to believe either scenario more than the other.

    Come September though, if we haven’t done enough, I may likely take a trip off my fence…we’ll see.

  • 237 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:05 PM


    They said the same about Mbiwa but he cost 7m, I feel N’Koulou is not even the same standard of player so 5-6m is as high as I would go.

  • 238 GeordieTwo // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    Yes we’ll see TorqToon mate @225. I’m still hoping for some decent incoming as well. I would never have brought in Kinnear. Ashley already knew that would drive everyone crazy. His ranting is ridiculous for a supposed adult, and he has barely begun again with us. A decent DoF might have been McLaren. Jol wouldn’t touch us with a 10 foot pole now either as manager or DoF. There can’t be many sensible football men who would. We have to hope Pardew has a good start to the season for the sake of the club so that Kinnear doesn’t step in. It’s hard to see a good result coming out of this.

  • 239 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    Got ya back, Pawl. You did always back the remy and bent signings, to be fair.

  • 240 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:07 PM


    I wasn’t sure about RvW. I’d have liked us to have got him when he went to Sporting, but I think Norwich have paid quite a bit for a player that could go either way. He’s 24 now and this will be his first season in one of the 4 major European leagues. Good player, but I think we can do better. PEA going to BvB kinda proves that he’s better…

  • 241 pawl250 // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    No Torq

    De Jong not Bent, for me its a whole new league when comparing the two.

    Bent is too much in both buying and wages to simply replace Shola as a back up. Hes also too similar too Cisse “fox in the box” kind of style striker.

  • 242 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    Ibiza – The day you hop of the fence will be the day. I write a “Done deal” post on here mate! 🙂

  • 243 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    i don’t think anyone really want to pay out top dollar for overrated womanisers i’d be happy with a few lesser knowns with a bit of desire

  • 244 Joe Blog // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    Ibiza, the only truly sensible and level-headed poster. Yes, I do put myself in with the rest of you, before someone starts.

    I’ll begin getting concerned about lack of activity, if we haven’t signed anyone by next Friday. Why? Because JFK is on is jollies and doesn’t return ’til Monday, so why anyone is expecting a signing before next week is beyond me, because JFKs solitary role is to give signings the green light and get Mash to fork out for them, ipso-facto, no signings before next week.

  • 245 HullMag6 // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    A little bit of needle within a group gets the job done, if all is cosy and rosy complacency will drift in like last summer everyone management and players got too cosy and complacent and it showed.

    Competition for places, young hungry players nipping at the heels of the established squad thats how to keep it fresh and performances high in quality. I hope we sign at least 3 possible 1st teamers and a few back up/development players to prove on the existing body of men

  • 246 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:11 PM


    Very sensible post and I do agree. I think what frustrates people like pawl and I is the irrational anger towards the club and demand for, frankly, irrational signings.

    I’m completely bored of reading:
    – MA is tight
    – Pardew has lost the dressing room
    – We’re going to get relegated because of the above
    – Yet, we “should” be in the top 6 at least

    All of the above is complete rubbish.

  • 247 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    just coached to a higher standard than pardew offers and are played in position for out of form favourites

  • 248 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    Pawl – My bad. That’s who I meant.

    When I write Remy, it’s automatically followed by the name ‘bent’!

    What has become of me?!?

    Signing Siem De Jong would eclipse many of the transfers so far this window. If we could ONLY sign one player, and lose nobody, it would be De Jong!

  • 249 Ibizatoon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    Torq…Don’t be so sure mate…well, it may be worth a little bet 🙂

    How’s things? Which country you working in at the minute?

  • 250 Sazzer // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    The teams around us have pulled off some impressive moves. Hopefully with good scouting we can get two for half that price. And get passed them again before the end of the window.

  • 251 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:13 PM

    JT – Desire and passion is much more important than a transfer fee.

    We could’ve done with some of that last season.

  • 252 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    tds correct till point 3 thats all no-one stated all of those

  • 253 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    Ibiza – I’m based in France. But think I’m going to work in Belgium to kick off the season.

    Had been told I was working with Monaco for a couple of months, however they have drafted in somebody from the US instead. Would like to tell you it’s because they couldn’t afford me, but that would be an enormous lie. 🙂

  • 254 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    John Tudor

    You’re seriously saying that people haven’t been posting those comments on here? Then we have nothing more to say to each other…

  • 255 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:19 PM

    thats what i said i couldn’t give a ff how much is spent on young hungry players its in the lower amounts every time 4 me, hell perchy was a snip at 750k i again reiterate you pay over the odds for fly by johnny’s enuf of that

  • 256 toon kk // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:19 PM

    Pawl…..PEA would have been nice but I didn’t think it would happen. But the players you mentioned would be great. I’ve always been a fan of Remy, if we do go for him lets hope that the rape situation is sorted.
    Anyway no point in keep arguing we all have our own views.

  • 257 Ibizatoon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    Joe…Isn’t it cool that you’re username has now got more meaning to Newcastle United? Maybe “cool” isn’t the right word 🙂

    You’re probably right, expecting anything this week is likely bordering on madness given our new and improved negotiator is away. I will be frustrated if the deals drag out, but it can happen. What I really don’t want to hear come September is “we tried”. I’m not expecting miracles this summer, but some intent. It’s still early doors, but other clubs are looking like they’re active, we can’t leave ourselves short….again.

    TDS….I do think it’s very easy to group people together on here. Understandable given the amount of different discussions going on etc, but it just escalates and gets a little heated at times. Basically, we’re all a big bunch of girls (no offense to any women reading).

    Big summer ahead for Mike and likewise a big season ahead for Pardew. They really made things hard for themselves after last summer, things were starting to get all a bit too easy.

  • 258 Toon1978 // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    Evening lads….still no signings lol but i do believe we will eventually bring in 3 or 3 players of good quality. Sein De Jong, S.Sinclair, Remy and Bent would be awesome aswell as keeping our best players. It would really set us up for the coming season. A little sad to see Gosling leaving and Perch. Both players will do well at their new clubs.

  • 259 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    i avert the nonsense there are views and views mine is plain enuf ive never seem those views presented by one blogger in that format maybe by three or four but not one

  • 260 Toon1978 // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    3 or 4 players i meant lol.

  • 261 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    toon kk

    I’ve asked you for your views on how the club can be ambitious and you refuse to share them. So I simply can’t take you seriously any more.

  • 262 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    John Tudor


  • 263 HullMag6 // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    Ah ibiza fellow fence sitter, I’m keeping my powder dry til September before exercising my judgement. Just happy to watch the soap opera unfold and Bloggers going mano et mano over issues where they are both right from a certain point of view.

    All we want is our team to be the best it can be and do well.

    Stop the infighting it feeds trolls, mackems and lazy journo’s.

  • 264 Ibizatoon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:27 PM

    Torq…Sounds good mate.

    Monaco? Better off without ’em…they’ll never amount to anything, championship quality at best 🙂

  • 265 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:28 PM


    I try not to group people on here at all, but I find it amazing that when someone decides to contradict the typical “we NEED to sign…” or “we’ve got loads of money to spend” or “MA is taking loads of money out of our club” rubbish, then suddenly a group of players decide to gang up on that person and insinuate that he’s not a proper fan because he points out the truth of the situation.

    We all want success for our club, but I don’t want to go back to the Shepherd boom/bust days. I don’t want us to be saddled with debt that sees us relegated again, I want us to build our squad, improve our youth academy and push forward so we can be in the CL again in my lifetime!

  • 266 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    here we go, you can bandy names about till your blue in the fingers select possible teams including non nufc players sit on x boxes, ps3 playing god to your clubs,this is the real world fairy tales do not happen.we will get what wee can afford if we dont get any in thru for any reasons given, well you know what’s in store

  • 267 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    tds ashleys saddled us with more dept than shepherd albeit a debt to himself

  • 268 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    Ibiza – My thoughts exactly, sir!

    I mean, can you even name 3 of their players?!?!?!

    Yeah, no me neither ! Amateurs!

  • 269 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:33 PM

    Here are my two sides that I think we will realistically end up with












    Both still perfectly capable of the top 10

  • 270 plana // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    Joe needs to get straight into Benton and stick Pardew on the Dole then rap in his self. As the whole club is a laughing stock even the mackems are taking the piss!

  • 271 sparky55 // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    May I attempt to summarise

    Rich bloke (MA) buys a vehicle (nufc) to help promote recently AIM listed company (SD) whose shares have just gone down the toilet post listing and he is in the middle of buying a load of shares back on the cheap and wants to add value to SD shares by promoting business via nufc.

    Although a very clever man he has no idea how to run a football club and unfortunately listens to his footballing friends (DW and Co) and unfortunately gets talked into letting said friends manage the club on his behalf after all existing management jump ship knowing what a financial mess it’s in.

    It all very quickly goes Pete Tong…the fans turn on Allardyce and he also finds out he needs to inject another 100 million into the club to cover unforeseen and unaccounted expenses.

    In an effort to keep fans on side he appoints special k but all goes pete tong again due to fall out with DW and then replaces with JFK. The fans revolt, JFK has a heart attack and again in an effort to appease fans brings in Shearer to save the day which as predicted by most ends in disaster and we go down.

    At this point the fans have turned on MA to such an extent he can’t even come to home games to watch the club he owns for fear of his own safety. He’s undecided what to do…his pride doesn’t want him to cut and run but finds the situation intolerable…he flips a coin and it comes up tails so the club is for sale…but no-ones interested or can raise the money.

    Houghton brings the club back into the premiership at the first attempt, he buys well but having taken advice from someone behind the scenes he sacks Houghton and replaces him with Pardew…Probably his biggest mistake thus far.

    Having sunk quite a bit of his personal fortune into the club by now and having supported houghton in the previous summer then sacking him three months later, all hell breaks loose after selling Andy Carroll for a small fortune in the January window and the following summer we buy big from France and put together a very good squad which the following year we finish 5th and Pardew is all of a sudden a saint and the purple player strategy devised by Lambias is all of sudden looked upon by the footballing world as the way forward.

    Having gotten to the lofty heights of 5th MA takes some more bad advice from someone he trusts and decides not to spend any money to strengthen the squad…we have no idea how or why he came upon this suicidal decision but someone with an alleged footballing knowledge or perhaps an accountant steers him down the path to perdition.

    With relegation staring him in the face and the possibility of losing out on the single biggest SKY football deal ever he spends big in january and buys five more french players and thank god he did otherwise we’d be down for sure.

    We finish 5th bottom, he hires JFK as a DOF, Lambias resigns and although we have a great squad the fans only two weeks into the transfer window are baying for blood with no apparent deals on the offing.

    the moral of the story being…

    Never buy a football club without an established management team unless you’re going to manage it yourself.

    Never hire friends and family to run your football club

    Never go against the business principles that have made you rich when running a football club.

    Never listen to friends or the fans or you’ll be broke before you know it.


    Has he put his hands in his pocket YES

    Does he get any thanks NO

    Does the club make any money…WHO CARES

    Will he spend in the summer…OF COURSE HE WILL

    Does he want success…OF COURSE HE DOES

    Are we a bunch of self righteous knobs for slagging off everyone and everything about our great club…OF COURSE WE ARE!


    PS…Should we sack pardew…HELL YES

  • 272 Ibizatoon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    Hull…Oi! Get off my fence!

    The above sounds passable to Rolling Stones – Get Off Of My Cloud 🙂

    Anyway, I’m getting sidetracked, where was I?

    Pardew out!
    Ashley at!
    Finances out!
    Fans out!

    5 minutes and I’ve already lost whatever sense I started the evening with. Bloomin’ blog.

  • 273 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    That’s you mate, I’m sure your professional man management skills are top notch 🙂

    But so far there has been no signs of cohesion between what MA wants, JFK wants and what pardew wants and certainly nothing to suggest that the frankly bizarre decision of appointing a DOF so late and even more bizzare appointment of making that DOF JFK!

    I mean why should pardew be defusing the situation? There should be no situation to defuse, that rests on MA
    And to not have a managing director lined up? There’s always business to be done, new sponsor deals to be looking for etc.

    I think it’s a given that every fan has there own idea on the direction the club should be heading, for me, trying to be realistic as requested, this is what I want to see in say the next 2 seasons, lets start with this window!

    A recognised CF, not a Darren bent, would be more than happy to see someone bought in from abroad within the clubs current blue print
    Like remy, Mathias Suarez, gameiro, Ben yedder, volland even reckon we could get a deal on someone like Hernandez given the players manure are looking to bring in!

    A creative force in midfield, only De Jong for me!

    A young CB

    Wingers!!!! We need width! Sinclair, Romain Alessandrini, moses

    For general progression lets say by the end of next season as not to rush mr Ashley 😉

    The academy
    It’s been stated time and time again we will look to rely on/produce our own talent
    So he released the majority, but didn’t replace them this needs addressing massively IMHO
    Also it needs to be sorted to a CAT A academy, were not in London where youngsters are spoilt for academy’s, the north it’s basically us the scum and the smoggies, atm both have a better academy than us which makes them a more attractive option than us for up and coming players, defo not on!!!!

    The coaching approach
    This needs addressing massively! Our players, not just last season, seem to be out of shape, injury prone and are tactics are non existent!!
    The rehab of our lads coming back from injury seems to be a joke tbh

    A stable and consistent direction, not seemingly making up targets as the season goes along!!

    A DOF who isn’t a complete c***

    Don’t think that’s to unreasonable?

  • 274 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:36 PM

    John Tudor

    Yet again a poor understanding of the accounts. Sure, there’s more debt in the club that there was when MA bought it. That’s because we got relegated and we had a bunch of hasbeens and never-will-bes on huge wages that we had to keep paying.

    Shepherd had signed players based on future TV revenue that we hadn’t even received yet. This was done as a gamble to get into the CL…which failed.

    Stop worrying about the debt though, that will be taken care of one way or another.

    Things that would be worrying if they were true (but they aren’t):
    – MA paying himself millions a year (like Shepherd did)
    – Pardew losing the dressing room (believe me, he would be gone if that ever happened)

    Other than that, I just hope we sign at least 2 attacking players this summer and continue to focus on the youth too.

  • 275 daztoon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    @ John Tudor
    Leave it mate before the accountants get all excited so they can get there calculators out again and bore the shit out us again

  • 276 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    Everybody needs to post fictitious squads and update us on their FM13 seasons, if for nothing else, just to wind up John Tudor!

  • 277 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:40 PM

    two trains here pro and anti ashley he could save a great deal of wrath by explaining his plans to the fans or the pro side could see in two years time nothing has changed who is right

  • 278 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:41 PM


    Excellent (if a little long) post!

    I’m with you in everything apart from the Pardew issue. This is just a matter of opinion though so I appreciate some people are different. I don’t think he’s the best manager in the world but I think his 5th place finish and the support he seems to have from the players gives him another shot this season.

    He’s gone if we’re looking like bottom half as we get into December though. But if we’re sitting pretty in the top half, surely nobody will be calling for him to be sacked.

  • 279 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    If it was just like FM then I’d be screaming for us to sign inigo Martinez and facunfo ferreyra!!!

  • 280 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:43 PM

    torq thats is most childish i don’t give a ff really, if thats what they get off on

  • 281 plana // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    Its a tale of two Joes, Joe Kinsnear and Joe Public. Its all down to who blinks first!

  • 282 Ibizatoon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    Torq…I’d be surprised if they even have 3 players. I mean, who’s Falcao? Now there’s a club with no ambition 😉

    TDS…I hear you. Let’s see what happens this summer. They really did mess it up last season, for whatever reasons. Such a shame as they really had the majority of fans on board. If it was a mistake, it was a really stupid one. Still, people might think it’s impossible to change the opinion, but some decent signings, a positive approach to our play and some results and we’ll be laughing…it is only football after all.

  • 283 toon kk // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    TDS…….are you near a mirror? because you’d probably start arguing with your self!!! (Only joking)
    Showing ambition would start by us realising in the premier league 15 to 20 mil isn’t a fortune for signings these days,with all the tv money. Getting Remy in would be great. Having better training staff and a bit more communication would help instead of the silent treatment.

  • 284 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    Ashley OUT

    Lambias OUT – Pards OUT – Kinnear OUT

    Wise – OUT

    Tudor OUT – Fans OUT – PEA OUT – Ameobi OUT

    Ibiza OUT – Accountant OUT

    What a side!!! 4-1 odds for relegation…!

  • 285 colwell // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:47 PM

    I love how fickle fans can be, if we had signed Bony, Van wolfswinkel, Wanyama,Altidore etc they would have been awesome,brilliant,great signings. As we haven’t they may be flops,shite,gambles.

    It seems we all have a bad case of the green eyed monster.

  • 286 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    Man – I’ve just been called childish on this blog….and that, after ALL the bickering and b1itching that has gone before….!!

    I’ve hit a new low! 🙁

  • 287 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    when are you coming out torq

  • 288 Sazzer // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    Ferreyra is off to Schaktar to replace Mkhitarian.

  • 289 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:50 PM


    I think it’s too early to be clear of a lack of cohesion. Yeah, JFK was a bizarre appointment, but it’s been made now and every since the initial rants, the signs have been good enough.

    I’m sure MA is well aware that another role needs to be filled, but we do have an FD, MA (or other employees of his) can always step in if required and JFK is running the football side of the club.

    So you’d want us to sign a striker, an attacking midfielder, a young centre back and 2 wingers? Assuming 4 of these players are starters, who do you expect to sell or drop? In my view we need a striker and an attacking midfielder/winger, plus young players to push the fringe players. I’d be happy with a young CB as 4th choice if Willo leaves for example.

    Totally agree on the academy too. From what I understand, we do have CAT A but that’s just because the downgrade has been deferred until the next assessment. If we fail next time, then we get downgraded and that will be a bit embarrassment for the club.

    I agree on injuries too. This has been a problem at our club for as long as I can remember and I’m really not sure what the problem is. I can tell you that Big Sam would have had that sorted if he’d had a bit more time. I don’t agree on the tactics so much though. I think we had a really hard time last season with several key players being injured and that led to us not being able to play the way we wanted, and when we tried quite often the players we needed were either off-form or just not good enough.

    We have a DoF who is a complete c***, can’t change that. Let’s just hope he’s a c*** who can do his job…

  • 290 Toon_Tom // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    Just out of sheer curiosity and potential rudeness – how old is John Tudor?

    No animosity intended just very curious

  • 291 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    Colwell – We could sign messi and some people STILL wouldn’t be happy! Out of those you’ve listed, only RVW is the player I’m pretty gutted we missed out on.

    Wanyama maybe, but not at 12 mil

  • 292 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    I just don’t see what Mike Ashley wants out of NUFC anymore. He clearly isn’t a die hard NUFC or football fan for that matter. I originally thought he wanted to buy us plaster our stadium with Sports Direct signs (even naming the stadium Sports Direct Arena) and in that case even bad publicity was good publicity because people were talking about it.

    Every man and their dog knows about Sports Direct in the UK now, a lot of it from our misfortune at times. That led me to believe Ashley’s next move was to get us into Europe so he could get his brand on TV stations in a bigger European market than just the odd PL game against one of the big teams.

    After achieving that the next logical step would be the Champions League where exposure is at its highest.

    In conclusion I think his 5 or 6 year plan was to flaunt Sports Direct as much as he could through us with Champions League being the best we could ever achieve, then when exposure had reached the highest it ever would he would sell up. Thoughts ?

  • 293 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:52 PM

    Tudor – why so interested?! 😉

  • 294 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:53 PM


    Yep. They made a big mistake. But it is only football as you say. It’s bloody hard to make the right decisions all the time too. Ask fans of the 20 clubs if they were happy last season. I bet you that only Utd, Swansea, West Brom, Southampton and Norwich fans were happy with where they finished, and I bet even some of those fans are whinging that they could have done more!

  • 295 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    old enough to vote for wilson

  • 296 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    toon kk

    It’s irrelevant what you think is a big spending spree though. The club should only spend money that the club have. It’s alright for huge clubs like Liverpool and the rest to spend huge amounts of money because they have loads more money than us.

    We simply don’t have £50M to spend on transfers and an additional £200kpw to add to the wage bill. Even with the additional TV revenue, we still couldn’t stretch to that…yet…

  • 297 Toon_Tom // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    Thought as much 😉

  • 298 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    fought for queen and country for the likes of you.oops torq don’t live here any more

  • 299 Ibizatoon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    TDS…Being someone who always make the right choices, I find it hard to relate 🙂

    Only playing, of course.

    I agree with what you’re saying, at the end of the day, we are fans and will always want the best, it’s natural.

    I’m just hoping for some improvement on last season, a bit of excitement and expectation back.

    Anyway, been a pleasure lads, back off in to the wilderness…take it easy and play nice 🙂

  • 300 colwell // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:57 PM


    I think just the players I listed would still improve us, just seen Scum may sign Giaccherini that would p*ss me off he looked a good player in the confederations cup.

  • 301 Ibizatoon // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:58 PM

    John…For what it’s worth, I think Torq was playing about. Of all the people on here, Torq doesn’t go around insulting people or looking for fights.

    Anyway, have a pleasant evening.

  • 302 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:59 PM


    Hell yeah. Some excitement beyond nearly getting relegated please! A hint at a challenge for top 6, or a quarter final in a cup at least please…plus we have to stuff the mackems twice. And no threat of relegation!!!

    I’m off too, need to get some grub.

  • 303 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    I wouldn’t say 4 of the 5 hypothetical signings would be starters not at all, I’d like the CF to be battling with cisse for a spot
    Wingers was meant to be winger but wouldn’t say no to 2! But yeah to replace jonas/ goofy on the wing
    The CAM to replace tiote and have a mid of cabs socks and De Jong

  • 304 Toon_Tom // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:00 PM

    Tudor – I respect those who fought for queen and country as opposed to fighting for Bush/Obama.


  • 305 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:01 PM

    I agree we can’t compete with the big boys anymore but we need to start spending in transfer windows, now more than ever. The likes of Norwich and Southampton are attracting some pretty big names and its not because they are a necessarily big European draw like us but because the money is in the PL.

    If you could pick up Yohan Cabaye’s or Michu’s window after window wouldn’t everybody be doing it ? . You need to find a balance and buy sensibly. The majority of the time you get what you pay for and a top quality striker will cost 10 million plus now a days.

  • 306 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    I don’t think it’s any coincidence that since the stadiums reverted back to SJP from SDA that a spokesmen of Ashley’s said he would sell for the right price……..

  • 307 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:04 PM

    John – Why are you so serious all the time?!

    And also, my JOB requires me to work in Europe, my wife, my two daughters and the rest of my family live back home in England.

    Where I work, has no impact on my nationality, my patriotism, or my respect for those who both served, and continue to serve our country!

  • 308 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:04 PM

    all i want on here is have my say i hold no grudges but it works both ways it seems people have beliefs and convictions and are slaughtered by insensitive remarks likewise the other side of the coin.whats the point we are both right and wrong time will tell ashley bought what he thought was a quick buck serves himself for that

  • 309 yo-yo // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:05 PM


    Pardew takes us to 5th and the mantra is he got lucky and really it total shite
    Pardew takes us to 16th and the mantra is Pardew is total shite.

    Vice versa – Pardew is a decent manager and took us to 5th then got really unlucky and took us to 16th — form is temporary and class is permament etc etc.

    The truth is somewhere in the middle. no saint no sinner

  • 310 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:07 PM


    I wouldn’t object to Tiote being replaced, but I’d love him to get back to the form he showed in the previous season. We definitely need a striker to compete with Cisse and preferably also one who can play alongside him. We’ve got Ben Arfa, Goofy and Marveaux to play the attacking roles too, but yeah I’d like to see another player here.

    We have Cabs, Tiote, Anita and Sissoko to play in central midfield but I just don’t quite see where Jonas fits in. He’s also a pretty big earner too I think.

    I’d love to see Bigi or Vuckic have a good season for us, maybe even Sammy, Fergie or Tav will go on loan for a bit and come back in January to get into the first team, who knows?!

    I know we need at least one striker/attacking midfielder and that’s got to be the bare minimum. But it would be nice if we could upgrade players like Jonas, Obertan, Willo too.

    We’ll see…

    Anyway, off to get some grub. Fight the good fight!

  • 311 yo-yo // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:07 PM


    I def wouldn’t fight for queen or country given the jerks who run it 🙂 nuff politics on here .. and anyway I live in scotland where we have our very own Wimbledon champ…

  • 312 toon kk // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:07 PM

    TDS……..I don’t recall saying 50mil. Sell some dead wood, free there wages up and I’m sure carr could identify reasonable replacements that can play far better. That even shows ambition. Or do you think that’s out of our reach?

  • 313 Sazzer // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:10 PM

    Wanayama is certainly an improvement for Southhampton but we could get Kouyate and Mbiwa for that same fee.

    I’m not sure yet if I’m gutted about the transfers that have been done so far. We will see at the end of the window if our board can found better players for that amount.

  • 314 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:10 PM


    Dead right. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Pardew overachieved when we finished 5th and underachieved when we finished 16th. There are reasons for both and hopefully they’ll have learned from the mistakes of last season and we’ll be solidly in the top 10 this one.

  • 315 Versace101 // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:10 PM

    Live Monday Nite football first game! result! 🙂 Ashley wont spend squat don’t know why don’t just get the cockney mafia banners out again! we must do it 2gether n get this cockney arsehole out of our club… I cant just sit there and take anymore of this! btw im new the this nufcblog! it is the shizz!!!

  • 316 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    hey torq i’m never serious it is the ashley factor.come now in a years time we are still where we are ashley is still owed the same amount will it change your view i don’t know. id hope we were in a better position but i cant see it. respect the respected and have an open mind as i have to ashley i like to think he knows what’s he is doing but the second coming noway jose

  • 317 Versace101 // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    P.S.. I hate Cockneys!!!!!

  • 318 low fell mag // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    Has this site got a virus.
    I was on earlier about 1300hrs ,and Mr Tudor was bleating on about how were doomed , Ashley is a fat useless cockney ,out to destroy our club ,our players are crap and we will end up in the blue square conference .
    I did respond to his slit your wrist comments and ended by saying I would never read his posts and I stand by that .
    I have now come in from work ,took the dog for a walk, .had me dinner had a shower,turned on the lap top to see if anything has developed .
    F@ck me its 20.00 hrs and he is still going on .
    John I don’t know you but believe me ,you need to see somebody mate,at first I thought you were a Mackem,
    How wrong was I ,your something out of the Cuckoos nest.

  • 319 Joe Blog // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    John Tudor

    Would never have guessed you’re an embittered old crone….

  • 320 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    toon kk

    I think there are dozens of other clubs trying to do exactly the same thing. Some will be offering more money, some will be offering European football, some will be offering first team football when we’re not.

    We don’t need a massive overhaul, we need gradual improvement each transfer window. The club has made it clear that they want to take their time and do the proper analysis of each player to maximise the chances that they will come good. It’s been a long time since we had a truly rubbish transfer and long may that continue.

    So we’re trying to do exactly what you say, and a £15-20M net spend is pretty reasonable in my opinion. Maybe that even leaves a little for another signing in January if we can get the right player available…who knows!

  • 321 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    getting it on with the kiddies respect man

  • 322 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    not embittered more cidred with balls

  • 323 GeordieTwo // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    Very interesting post sparky55 @271. A very good summary of what has happened, although your conclusions don’t really match up well with the story you tell. Does Ashley want Newcastle to succeed? Yes but only because of the profit motive. Does he have any clue about how to bring consistent success? No, as you have described very well. Will he succeed if we leave him alone and let him get on with it? No, not as far as football is concerned. He doesn’t have a clue, hence we have Kinnear and Pardew in charge. But a very good read mate.

  • 324 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    I think I am disappointed with John Tudor’s negativity but I gave up reading his posts a long time ago due to the shocking grammar. Frankly, I just can’t actually understand anything he says…so I’ve given up.

  • 325 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    low fell fag kindly please furnish these facts you are stating as never have i used that language today begone sir

  • 326 SeanNufc87 // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:20 PM

    Don’t Chelsea get first dibs on players from vitese? And they are in the market for a striker? I have a feeling bony won’t emulate last season record.

    Evening Ibiza been a while since I caught you. I’ve been sitting on your fence in your absence telling the people either side to keep it down for you.

  • 327 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:20 PM

    Low fell – 🙂 🙂

  • 328 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    The thing is we have the Spine of IMO one of the top 3 sides I have seen in my lifetime first being under Keegan and the Sir Bobby.

    The sad thing is we already have Krul,Debuchy,M’biwa,Collocini,Cabaye,Sissoko,HBA & Cisse. And with a few additions, the right playing mentality that fits the players style and our fan base it could be great.

    Just a shame it might not happen because Ashley is penny pinching and missing out on players that have taken so long to scout.

  • 329 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    you may have been hallucinating on the hylton rd waccy baccy sir .i see your dog requires long walks your timing seems to be consistent with walk down to hylton rd to acquire fresh supplies

  • 330 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    Sean – you are right I think!!! They have some kind of agreement with vitesse over first refusal on their players.

  • 331 SeanNufc87 // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    How many Windows have we not really strengthened in? Was it just last summer?

  • 332 SeanNufc87 // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:26 PM


    Evening mate, hope France is treating you well?

    I was sure I’d read it somewhere, and you would have to assume that if he was the next drogba (bony) then Jose would have snapped him up

  • 333 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    and i bet you have ginger hair like the fag on you tube and are less than 5 ft tall, do you suffer from napoleon syndrome and lastly is there a time limit to how much time is spent on here i think not so if you don’t mind kindly watch the step

  • 334 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    ohh and is not the heed a better team worthy of your support

  • 335 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:33 PM

    Sean – I’m in complete agreement mate. I hate when players are labelled as “the next…..!”

    Nearly always fail to fulfill that tag.

    I am very well, my friend! Hope you are keeping well and not getting manic depression from this place!?! 🙂

  • 336 toon kk // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:33 PM

    TDS……..some players have had a fair chance imo. Ive been watching some highlights of some of our games last season and some of our play was very average. Something needs to change, whether it’s coaching staff or one or two players.

  • 337 Levi // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    Woah i only just signed in but JT what’s up fella?

  • 338 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    can anyone cut and past these so called slaggings of ashley which the low fell mag perceives

  • 339 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    he’s is embittered coz of a comment made by jail

  • 340 Miguel // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    QPR got full squad out tonight except Remy & Cesar

  • 341 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    John – Careful man!! You don’t wanna get dragged into this! Banter is one thing, sexual offensive remarks and bullying is a whole other thing….

  • 342 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    i may leave this blog after all as the man said he does not know me but i will return to oversee the closing down

  • 343 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    Anyone that doesn’t want Remy should watch this

  • 344 foggonridiculous // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:40 PM

    john tudor may not be everybody’s cup of tea but if he’s followed the toon as long as I suspect he has then he’s had to suffer a lot more disappointments than most of us on here. I also don’t doubt his passion for the toon,

    I don’t always agree with him and it’s not my call, but in my opinion he’s entitled to a bit of slack.

    There have been some well-thought out and interesting posts on this and the last thread but also some – in my view – unnecessary abuse posted.

    Cue soothing harp music and release the doves……

  • 345 Toon_Tom // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:41 PM


    Anyone see on the news 25mins ago about the plane that JFK was flying home in!!!! Wow

  • 346 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:41 PM

    BPC – That was hard to watch at the time mate!!

    What a hit!! Technically it looked totally wrong, but oh my days!! Superb!

  • 347 Belfast // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    We’re officially the slugs of the transfer market.

  • 348 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    Foggon – Agreed.

    But it must go both ways! Regardless of age, length of time supporting the club etc.

  • 349 GeordieTwo // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    If people get abusive it only gets worse. Disagreeing is fine but abuse is just a sign that we can’t deal with someone disagreeing with us. I usually just try to move on without abusing anyone. Often other peoples’ points seem very valid and I try to say so. It doesn’t have to be like a day in Afghanistan on here does it?

  • 350 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    It doesn’t help us with all of the other clubs doing business early. How many have the Mackems signed ? . To be honest I would go for quality over quantity all day long and the only player I would be potentially jealous of is Giaccherini if 5under1and get him . Tidy little player IMO.

  • 351 Mister Tuff // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    Iminenent -talking about Remy – his new black and white shirt photographed for the time. I’m claiming a scoop. Link:-

  • 352 GeordieTwo // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    So what was the news Toon_Tom @345?

  • 353 SeanNufc87 // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:49 PM


    Aye, just gutted im missing all this fantastic weather as im working nights.

    As for the blog, I just sit back and watch the scrap unfold then drop a comment when the dust starts to settle. Its the same tactic I use with kids, if they throw a tantrum just ignore them until they calm down and are willing to listen to you.

    Belgium eh? Do some scouting while your there.

  • 354 joeinthecheapseats // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    Law of averages got to be some signings over the weekend to get them gelled together before the season starts
    Think Bent will be a battle of wills as surely he will only be third choice this season.

  • 355 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    if anyone cares you can goto the last post see what was said i never said any of the bullshit low fell mag stated hence the waccy baccy comments i know i’m innocent the guy is a shit stirrer extraordinaire who i avoid like the clap

  • 356 foggonridiculous // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:51 PM


    Agree 100%.

    Not taking sides I read the blog regularly but I wouldn’t pretend to have seen all ur exchanges with JT

    …. there was an earlier spat between two other posters that got a bit spicy that I was thinking about….

    maybe it’s the heat … or an undiagnosed “Toon syndrome”

    symptoms start in July with erratic spells of transfer rumour fever leading to giddy hopes for the season ahead…

    add in alcohol and the reaction can be severe…

    HWTL (uh oh! looks like it’s started…)

  • 357 foggonridiculous // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    Mister Tuff

    ha ha nice one

  • 358 Toon_Tom // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    G2 @352 – JFK high jacked his own plane. Threw all the parachutes out. Kicked out the 2 pilots, drank all of the alcohol on board, impregnated all 3 air hostesses (2 were male…exactly) threw them out. Dived in the cock-pit, remove the chair and placed a blow up, Illinois, yellow arm chair in its place, blind folded himself and landed directly in Darsley Park. No kidding. He then ate the plane to destroy evidence of his act of terrorism. He would hate to fall out with the royals over this latest act of JFK’ness – however, the queen is just a phone call away from him!!!

  • 359 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    low fool mags post
    ow fell mag // Jul 11, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    What a dour ,negative man this John Tudor is.
    You cannot win with people like this,,if he won the lottery he would still complain .
    Never mind John, every one to their own ,its simple for me ,I will not read your posts in the future ,and at the end of the day I will be smiling not depressed.
    What a bundle of joy it must be ,for Mrs Tudor.

  • 360 GeordieTwo // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    That sounds just like old Joe Toon_Tom @358. Clearly he was well rested from his holidays then. 🙂

  • 361 sparky55 // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    GEORDIETWO@323…I don’t think for one second Pardew will be the manager at the start of the season and as far as I’m concerned JFK is only in there as a short term stop gap til it’s sold at which time the new owner will pay up his contract and he’ll walk away a happy man.

    IMO this is an interim management situation and MA will continue to invest this summer but I think he’ll simply be re-investing the money he gets for Cabs plus whatever small sum he’s made available as a transfer budget.

    Although it all looks rubbish at the minute and the JFK thing looks like pure madness, I strongly believe there is method in the madness now and we’ll all be smiling (except JT of course) and the world will be a better place…Just my opinion of course!

  • 362 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Foggon – I’m not an argumentative person. Nor do I come on here to start problems or cause upset.

    It’s the constant negativity that grinds on me. Not just by John of course.

    Once we have signed a couple of players of the calibre we need (as opposed to Sunderlands filler!!) all will relax on here.

    Hopefully….! 🙂

  • 363 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    there was no ffin blindin bout shit playersor shouts of w@nker ashley from me no wanting wise in in or any crap like that he should not direct at a blogger when i do i try to indirect my answer

  • 364 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    Tom – funny you should say that…

    This story JUST broke on SSN!!!

    You sir, are CLEARLY ITK!!! Ha

  • 365 Belfast // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    I think if we do very little in this window, next season will play out in the same way as last season.

    We’ll probably be fine until we get a few injuries.
    Then we’ll be shite.

    Think the only reason we stayed up last season, was because Qpr and Reading we’re terrible to be honest.

    Don’t think we could get away with it next year again.

  • 366 GeordieTwo // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    Thanks for your reply sparky55 @351. I hope you’re right mate. We could definitely use a change of manager. If Joe could calm down and focus on the job instead of abusing the press we might get somewhere. Just lock yourself in your office Joe and don’t answer any calls from the press. Take a few deep breaths and start making calls to other clubs about players Carr has recommended. Keep it simple Joe old lad.

  • 367 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    torq your just upset coz i called you a child and you cant convert some peoples thought processes. as i said earlier i can accept your philosophy if ashley holds up his hands and explains his plans but it ain’t not gonna happen and if its bullying i’m accused of let him who is without sin cast the first stone

  • 368 Toon_Tom // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    Hahaha cheers Torq – does this new vital piece of ‘intel on my part allow me access to your secret ITK society?

    I have always been ITD (in the dark) 😉

    In other news – Sparky, you honestly think Pards won’t be here for the ManCity game? I called for his head at the end of last season, and rightly so, but the players seem to like him, even if its just as a person, and in all honesty, which manager is available, and willing, to throw himself in to the poison chalice that is NUFC?

    We can’t attract too players currently never mind top bosses!

    Even tho, admittedly, I called for Pards’ head, I now strongly believe that simply due to the fact we were soooo close to CL football the previous season, pulled of some cracking results/performances – and then ‘twinned with last years shambles – I do believe he deserves a second chance.

    However – I do think my feelings towards Pards changed dramatically upon the arrival of JFK. The enemy of our enemy is our allie!

  • 369 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    i thank you for your time a patient’s thank you and goodnight

  • 370 FatmanJoe // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:11 PM


    I agree whole heartedly. I believe that Pardew’s position has been strengthened since Joe arrived and the conspiracy theorist inside me says that’s why Joe was brought in. Purely deflect from Pardew. And Joe has been brilliant at doing that.

  • 371 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    Ok John.

    Its fairly clear you just want to argue and fight. With me, with low fell, with anybody who will engage with you.

    Im not going to engage with you. I won’t read or respond to your posts, and if you do the same, we should manage to avoid eachother fairly successfully.

  • 372 SeanNufc87 // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:11 PM


    Are you saying theres something wrong with Sunderlands methods of jamming boddies into the cracks who all speak different languages, never play together and alienating your current players by fining them as often as possible?… Shame on you

    I think we can all agree on one thing, regardless of what side of the fence you sit, at least we aint Sunderland.

  • 373 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    Tom – You will have to speak to Ibiza mate!

    He is the gatekeeper and CEO of the ITK ministry !

  • 374 GeordieTwo // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    So Wolfsburg are interested in Bent now. A little more competition for us then? Hurry home Joe if you really want this lad. Does Joe have a smart phone or a tin can and a string?

  • 375 Toon_Tom // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    Mr Tudor – you speak openly and honestly even tho some see it as a pessimistic view > I call it a realist.

    So, honestly, on that old sheet of paper, our starting 11 – you must admit that not only is it the best team since the 90’s era of Ginola, Lee, Beardo, Clark, Shearer, Big Les, Pav etc etc etc – it is probably/potentially one of the strongest line ups in the PL?

    I know tactics/depth/set up/manager/dof/owner etc etc etc must be taken in to consideration – but forget about that and please answer my initial question! 🙂

  • 376 foggonridiculous // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:14 PM


    If I came across as having a go at you then that was not my intention at all and I apologise.

    If I’m honest I’ve got an image in my bonce of JT as a cross between a dyed-in-the-wool hairy-arsed Geordie
    ..Father Jack (from Father Ted)…

    but he could just as easily be Gazza’s doppleganger…who knows…?

    He was having hilarious banter with OneTony Green a while back about someone lobbing a pie at a stripper in a Geordie club (a bit OFF-topic perhaps)

    This blog is almost as erratic as the toon have been ever since I started following them in 1969 (yes it WAS AD)

    last point in my previous @344 I put:

    “…unnecessary abuse….”
    ….got me thinking just when IS abuse necessary?
    I’ve made my own head hurt now!

  • 377 Mister Tuff // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:15 PM

    I reckon when Looney Joe gets back from his holidays – his office will have been well and truly “fixed up” by Percy.
    The changes to the office will include;-
    Whoopee cushion on Looney Joes’ seat.
    Binoculars left out for Looney Joe to watch the training from his office – but Percy will have put black boot polish on the eyepieces.
    Door handle that pulls off from the inside.

  • 378 FatmanJoe // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:15 PM

    G2 – a story put out by Villa possibly to get Bent off their books as soon as poss. There’s no quotes or anything tho so probably just the spouting more BS.

  • 379 Joe Blog // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    Woohoo, John Tudor’s gone (probably hasn’t). For someone who “doesn’t care what people think about him.”, he sure does bleat on like a sensitive little petal.

  • 380 sparky55 // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:16 PM


    I’m not so sure all the players do like him and that I think will be bourne out by those that leave. Cabs will be first and I think a couple more surprises to follow…but the thought of that doesn’t worry or upset me because we have a good squad and I strongly believe the owner will reinvest and replace / strengthen the squad.

    Pardew in my opinion is so out of his depth it’s embarrassing and his removal will be the catalyst to much better things including improving our ability to attract the type of players we want at the club and who want to play for proper footballing team

  • 381 John Tudor // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    no torq i do not wish to fight as i have said i respect others constructive comments as is my right but to be slaughtered instantly for no reason i draw a line and to to be chided in such away is downright despicable underhand and low i will of course still read your ravings on how right you are and how wrong similar people to me view it but neither will win .i have said all along if you don’t like it comment but do not belittle the blogger

  • 382 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    Foggon – Not at all mate! I took no offense to that. And I tried to talk to John frankly, but to no avail.

    John hasn’t offended me, in the slightest. I just think sometimes people on here (they know who they are) would be quite glad to see us fail, in order to have their point proven.

    No matter how much I despise people associated with the club, I would never take pleasure in seeing us struggle and drop down.

    I’ve lived and been brought up in Newcastle. A one club town…it’s in the blood.

    Even though working abroad makes my affiliation less real (apparently!) 🙂

  • 383 Toon_Tom // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    Thank you kindly Torq – when Ibiza gets out of the San Antonio clubs in a few hours, out of his mind on powder and euphoric capsules, I shall ask if I can enter your mysterious world 😉

    I am glad people have stopped making sly remarks. It is in human nature to disagree, cause controversy and debate – however personal jibes and insults should not be handed out. We are all part of the Nufc community and all wish for the same thing (entertaining football, not MA out) 😉 so let’s sometimes simply agree to disagree without getting all personal.

    You bunch of f’ing dikHe@ds 😉

  • 384 TorqToon // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    Much appreciated, Tudor

  • 385 GeordieTwo // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    You’re probably right FatmanJoe @378. Have we really bid for Bent? I can’t really find any evidence despite Pardew saying he is on our list of strikers. Is this just wishful thinking by Pardew or is he attempting to disguise our real targets (if Joe actually has any)?

  • 386 croftus5678 // Jul 11, 2013 at 9:51 PM

    with the risk of bringing this blog back onto football ^^

    the players we are linked with in sinclair/remy/bent if we singed all 3 i think would be a huge boost and plug the weak links.

    this keeper could prove ambitious also instead of the “thats it krull’s going” as if we in the same respect as a quality keeper getting used to the prem before he has to take over for injury ect.

  • 387 jimmysmith // Jul 11, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    Might have to accept that Ashley will very likely continue to make howlers alongside his desire to gradually build a top 6 side. Seems as if he’s angry enough to fall out with Llambias, then the only thing saving Pards is his 8 year contract and that Kinnears appointment was an emotional impulsive one to some degree.

    One step forward, one step back, two steps forward, one back and so it goes on.

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