Can Kinnear Get A Striker And Defender In Soon?


Joe Kinnear has not made a good start to his job as Director of Football at Newcastle, and there’s a few reasons for that – one is his comments to the press have been a disaster, an absolute disaster, and Joe still hasn’t managed to get anybody through the door at Newcastle yet – which is his major job function.

darren bent at Villa

Darren Bent – Newcastle to bid £5M?

But there was news on Sunday that we have made Darren Bent out priority target, at least for next week, and that Joe Kinnear will discuss the transfer situation with Alan Pardew tomorrow, and then presumably lodge some bids.

We expect Kinnear and Pardew have already talked some last week or over the weekend, so we hope bid(s) can be lodged tomorrow.

Aston Vila officially want £8M for Bent, but news tonight that Newcastle are confident they can get that price down to £5M or less, so for 10M Newcastle could have an experienced striker and a decent center-back added tho the squad.

And there was news today that we are after Rolando, the 27 year-old Porto and Portuguese International, who is supposed to be available for £5M, with Everton also said to be interested.

If Joe Kinnear can bring in those two players in the coming week, then we need just one more striker this summer, and could potentially be one of two French Internationals – Loic Remy from QPR or Bafetimbi Gomis of Lyon, who has just one year left on his contract at the French club.

Time is passing by, and Newcastle and Joe Kinnear need to show Newcastle fans that they can get the job done in the transfer market – we certainly did that in January, before Joe came back to Newcastle in his new role.

And the sooner the new players are on Tyneside, the sooner they will be fully integrated into the Newcastle squad.

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114 comments so far

  • HAZZY1

    Jul 14, 2013 at 11:52 PM

    Comment #1

    Hi peps just to let u know the CB I was talking about being in italy was Rolando I was told we atched him play for napoli to see if he could find his form again and we were impressed as for De Jong talks r still on going but fee still has not been agreed also the ST from france im being told is Gomis ill get back to you all when I hear more.

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  • archaeomag

    Jul 14, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    Comment #2

    Can Kinnear Get A Striker And Defender In Soon?
    Not without help. .

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  • djm...

    Jul 15, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    Comment #3

    Hazzy, do you know what the hold up is with us actually making bids for players. It just seems that we are always in talks, but surely all that’s needed to be done is ‘how much do you want’ then we negotiate from there. Like if your buying a car or a house, you generally know how flexible the seller is going to be just from the first conversation.

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  • HAZZY1

    Jul 15, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    Comment #4

    djm as far as im aware the hold up is the agents ie fees or wanting to wait for a bigger move for there clients also we r hard when paying the fee the club wants and r always wanting them for less we have money to spend but we will only spend what we feel is the right price thats y we r not closer to signing anyone I was told De Jong was almost done but that was 2-3 weeks ago so like I said I feel the agents r holding everything up or MA not paying up.

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  • jimmysmith

    Jul 15, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    Comment #5

    Bent is worth a punt at 5 mill. Players fall out with clubs from time to time, doesn’t make them poor players. Was very good at Sunderland and was in the mix at Tottenham when they had real options up front, but you do get the feeling he might be the only attacker in, which would simply be the slap in the face that would shatter the last of my illusions.

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  • djm...

    Jul 15, 2013 at 12:07 AM

    Comment #6

    Ahh that does kind of make sense. Suppose there are a few more parties to keep happy with these deals too. But I would have thought they would have an idea of how flexible the other clubs where willing to be by now.

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  • lesh

    Jul 15, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    Comment #7

    Of course Joe still hasn’t managed to get anybody through the door at Newcastle yet and there is a good reason for that – he’s hasn’t put a full week in since he announced himself some four weeks ago!

    Hazzy, we haven’t bid for De Jong yet but we’ve been in talks for a few weeks. Who with? What the hell is there to talk about? The fiasco that is Newcastle United?

    Is it any wonder we get turned over by other clubs who get our supposed targets signed up while we we’re talking.

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  • HAZZY1

    Jul 15, 2013 at 12:14 AM

    Comment #8

    lesh Like I just said I was told we were in talks with De Jong his agent and Ajax but ive not heard anything else maybe they want to much agent fees or wages or maybe ajax want alot more than the 10m that has been banded about on here im not sure I only know what I hear or been told then I let everyone know.

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  • HAZZY1

    Jul 15, 2013 at 12:19 AM

    Comment #9

    Soz peps go to go again my son isn’t well today ill check back with u all as soon as I hear anything about De Jong or other targets nite all.

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  • lesh

    Jul 15, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    Comment #10

    Thanks for coming back Hazzy. There was no need as you’d answered my question (@4), before I’d asked it!

    Thanks again and as you say, you’re only passing on what little bits you hear.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jul 15, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    Comment #11

    I think everything has just been put on hold until Looney Joe gets back from his holidays -so if there are any signings he will get the credit and then he will be a hero.
    Somebody mentioned previously -do not know the origins that Obertan may not be leaving. If that is true I’m shocked. he is useless.
    Also Percy stating that the defence was ok -when most observers know it is not – gives me the shudders. The other item I could not really understand was Percy suggesting that it was up to Sissoko where he should play – but that in midfield it would be at the expense of Cabaye or Mr T..
    We need 2 quality strikers -winger and a commanding CB or do not expect a lot this coming season.

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  • GeordieDan

    Jul 15, 2013 at 12:22 AM

    Comment #12

    Hazzy1>

    Let me guess-your dogs’ hairdresser is the cousin of Kinnears parrot and thats where you get your inside info right?

    Forgive my scepticism but ITKs should really get a life!

    Whats the point? Obviously you’re not an ITK though are you so you’ll agree whole-heartedly of course. 😉

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jul 15, 2013 at 12:22 AM

    Comment #13

    Personally,

    I think it’s a disgrace if we only bring in Bent as a forward this window. At best, this lad should of been coming in to play as a 3rd striker in replace of Shola. He is good enough for competition to our major front two strikers.

    If Joe dosn’t show Shola the door, then that is a failure through my eyes straight away in his job role.

    Part and parcel of his job role is to shift out the dead wood, and if Shola isn’t dead wood, then I don’t know what is.

    Can someone please explain to me why we need a defender in?

    At the moment we have 4 centre backs:

    Coloccini, Mbiwa, Taylor, Williamson.

    Right back – Debuchy – Cover – Anita.

    Leftback – Santon – Cover – Haidara.

    I can see only a young right back needed for cover if you did not want to use Anita, but it is hardly a priority right now?

    With the amount of CM’s at the club, I would not be bothered about Anita filling in at right back to give one of are other CM’s a game until the return of Debuchy.

    Just my two cents?

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  • lesh

    Jul 15, 2013 at 12:22 AM

    Comment #14

    HAZZY1. Let’s hope number one son has a speedy recovery from wbatever’s ailing him. Surely he’s not been affected by the goings on a SJP!

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  • HAZZY1

    Jul 15, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    Comment #15

    lesh thanks m8 no its nothing to do with nufc he has asthma and the weather always flairs it up spk soon.

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  • Spuggy

    Jul 15, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    Comment #16

    We need a commanding CB because when colo is injured the calm control at the back and therefore in midfield goes to shits.

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  • potski

    Jul 15, 2013 at 12:29 AM

    Comment #17

    Jimmy

    Why is it “astonishing” to take a holiday at this time of the year? Millions do it, mainly for the weather or because of school holidays.

    Joe, we are told, had the holiday pre-planned, and let’s imagine for a minute that perhaps, just perhaps, there was a very good reason why he couldn’t cancel it and take it some other time?

    Weather? Nice in Italy now, I’m there now:). But I guess he could afford to cancel and take the missus to somewhere more exotic once the window closes.

    Schools? He’s 66, surely he doesn’t have kids still at school?

    No, his only child was 40 when he died of cancer two years ago.

    But he left two grandchildren under ten, who live with their mother in USA. Do you think it is possible, strange I know, that the man wanted to spend some time with his grandchildren while they are off school? And just possible that his new employer said yes?

    OMG!! The man has a family and a life away from football, how dare he. What if there had been some development with one of our transfer targets? Surely, the don’t have mobile phones and Tinternet in Italy, do they?

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  • stuart no9

    Jul 15, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    Comment #18

    potski — he shouldnt have taken the job if he wasnt going to be here to do it. Do managers go on holiday on the first day of the season ? the answer is no .

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  • potski

    Jul 15, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    Comment #19

    Going to be “here”? One of the previous posters mentioned a player at Napoli. How do you know Joe was not at that match, and tell me please in our modern world where you would go on holiday that you can’t use a phone, email or Skype? Italy was mentioned in lots of sources as the destination for this mysterious holiday, not trekking in the Himalayas.

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  • Spuggy

    Jul 15, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    Comment #20

    Darren bent does not inspire me one bit – if that is the best we can do it is a downgrade from cisse. As a replacement for shola yes, as our first choice striker to replace Ba no.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jul 15, 2013 at 12:47 AM

    Comment #21

    Spuggy,

    Between Colo, Taylor, Williamson.

    They kept 15 clean sheets the season we finished 5th. And then we have added Mbiwa and his leadership qualities since then. Very unlikely we will add a centre back until we sell or lose one of them.

    I agree when Colo is out the side we are not as settled, but Mbiwa is here to rectify that problem now.

    Potski,

    This is a club that has just been thrown into the air, that’s in turmoil, in the need for signings that have not came. Joe is the man to do that, that’s his job and will be being paid an awful lot of money to do that.

    Players are being signed by clubs and the longer the window is open the quality drivels away.

    If it was an emergency then fair enough, get yourself away Joe, see to your business. But, I havn’t heard anything such.

    He can go on holiday whenever he likes, visit grandkids galore. But for this important time period, his most important time period in this particular job role, he should be putting the graft in and getting this football club ready for next season. That is a given.

    It really is as simple as that.

    Everyone from office workers to Executives don’t have such luxurys year after. They get on with their jobs that they are paid to do.

    It’s a pi55 take. No doubt about that.

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  • stuart no9

    Jul 15, 2013 at 12:57 AM

    Comment #22

    potski- by jfk s actions , tells me he is not one bit bothered about NUFC , but only in it for the money. It has been mentioned he got the job because he was jobless and potless . he is what he is -a waster . in time , you will agree with most of us , it just takes some people a little bit longer than others before it gradually sinks in !

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jul 15, 2013 at 1:02 AM

    Comment #23

    The situation with Joe Kinnear and this summer break typifies everything wrong with NUFC under this regime.

    Poor planning.

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  • 89Norcal

    Jul 15, 2013 at 1:06 AM

    Comment #24

    Fun (predictable) fact: we are now the only remaining EPL club to not have signed a player this summer; if anyone is still unaware.

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  • potski

    Jul 15, 2013 at 1:10 AM

    Comment #25

    What world do you live in? Everyone takes holidays now. And while I don’t know that he is with his grandchildren, it certainly seems a more than plausible explanation.

    I have employed new people and if they have holidays already arranged within the first few months I would always honour them, even if I’m entitled to say no.

    When MA offered him the job. “But Mike the grand kids are coming over in a few weeks, I was planning to take them away for a week.”. “Don’t worry about it Joe. Alan will be back from his holidays then, and him and Graham can keep an eye on things. If anything happens they’ll ring you straightaway.”. “Thanks, Mike. I really appreciate it. Me and the missus only get to see them a couple of times a year.”

    You really would need to clearly explain what “work” he does that requires his physical presence in the UK on every single day of the window to justify all if the abuse he has received over the last week.

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  • lesh

    Jul 15, 2013 at 1:12 AM

    Comment #26

    In my experience, there is an expectation of directors and that is that they are commuted to the business 24/7.

    As far as we know, he hasn’t put a full week in yet and that’s hardly sending out the right message – particularly at this stage of his employment with the club

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  • lesh

    Jul 15, 2013 at 1:23 AM

    Comment #27

    potski…. Yup most folk do take holidays in summer but directors should be around when they’re needed.

    Yes we know that communication’s not a problem these days but for hell’s sake, if there’s urgent business to be done, it needs to be done before opportunities disappear!

    Maybe we should give him the benefit of the doubt but I’d have thought that he’d be trying to establish some credibility especially after his clumsy media performances.

    Bur, maybe that’s never occured to him.

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  • potski

    Jul 15, 2013 at 1:30 AM

    Comment #28

    But you don’t know that he hasn’t been in contact with agents, managers, players etc throughout his “holiday”. Though I doubt the nature of his “work” requires constant action. If they submitted a bid for Bent then they are waiting for Villa to get back to them whether they are willing to accept it, and allow them to start negotiations with the player.

    Whether you like it or not, most of the window is a waiting game. Only on deadline day is there frantic action.

    And in Bent’s case I can easily see it going to the last day. Only an injury to Cisse or another club sniffing around Bent might cause us to up the offer. Villa will cave in on deadline day if Lambert is serious about offloading him.

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  • headtheball

    Jul 15, 2013 at 1:40 AM

    Comment #29

    Anyone remember It’s Good News Week by Hedgehoppers Anonymous a sixties RAF band? Well we may have just had our good news week now that joke inear is due back. Be careful of what you wish for as he could go out and buy some more of Parsnips choices and do we really need another Ober?
    HWTL

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  • dan5679

    Jul 15, 2013 at 1:42 AM

    Comment #30

    my cousin works for newcastle he does something in admin ..he told me there number one target was darren bent and a bid was going in this week …he said nobody was near to getting signed at the moment and nobody will be bought this week apart from maybe bent but he was told that would also take a while

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  • coastalboy

    Jul 15, 2013 at 1:57 AM

    Comment #31

    JFK will be lucky if he finds his own way back to Newcastle never ming bring any players in

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jul 15, 2013 at 2:12 AM

    Comment #32

    Potski,

    Joe Kinnear oversee’s transfers coming into the club and going out of the club. The lack of action over the past week and from the start since he was appointed has been shocking. All suggesting zero planning.

    He is Mike Ashleys eyes and ears on the training ground. The fact he has been given an office at the training ground backs up this fact. He has done nothing in regards to this aspect either.

    How can he shift out the deadwood if he is know where to be seen or looking at the squad?

    Im not saying people should not enjoy a break away in the summer. Im saying for the state of this club through recent events, and the importance of him having a hands on approach which is his job role, he shouldn’t be away right now.

    His job should be his priority, especially given the short window which he has to operate in. Every waiting second is a second that could of been spent planning for the new season, chasing up targets, removing players he feels is not good enough.

    Now if we were signing players still with him being away, and our targets were through the door, then I could understand your reasoning.

    The facts are though as it seems, no business has been done at all, no bids have been offered and we are waiting on him coming back. Which is slowing the whole process once more on top of his already mental appointment that seen a set-up manage to get five players in within days in January.

    It shows a lack of care and consideration from Mike Ashley and Joe Kinnear and it’s unfair to everyone connected to the club. Year after year we see poor planning without learning from their mistakes.

    Toon fans are tired of being taking for granted.

    This scenario typifies that problem once more.

    Got to dash, work to do, catch ya soon.

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  • lukes26

    Jul 15, 2013 at 3:37 AM

    Comment #33

    I thought it was conventional wisdom that Yanga was our best LB, followed by santon, then haidara.

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  • roe997

    Jul 15, 2013 at 5:09 AM

    Comment #34

    Full of itk this morn haha

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  • argentoona

    Jul 15, 2013 at 5:23 AM

    Comment #35

    Who cares if he’s in russia or north pole all he needs is a good smartphone

    Seriouly people complain about news-reporters but most of the people are doing the same thing as them

    Meaning making up sh**

    Chillax

    I care anout nufc but crying wont help

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  • SeanNufc87

    Jul 15, 2013 at 5:41 AM

    Comment #36

    Big week lads, remy, bent, siem de jong, sinclair and alderwerld all through the door if the people itk are anything to go on.

    Can’t wait 😉

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  • Santon03

    Jul 15, 2013 at 5:42 AM

    Comment #37

    hi guys

    I don’t think Kinnear is on holiday, he had enough holidays imo.
    Why are we so stuck with Remy? I still think that we will sign 2 or 3 unknown strikers, definitely not the ones that we or the media have mentioned before.
    Everything is done secretly right now, better if less people know what we are doing. Probably those strikers are not playing in europe and waiting for the work permit, it would be silly if we announced it then failed on the work permit.

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  • SeanNufc87

    Jul 15, 2013 at 5:43 AM

    Comment #38

    Also I don’t agree with any of the animosity towards bent it doesn’t make sense?

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  • nut meg

    Jul 15, 2013 at 6:31 AM

    Comment #39

    Hazzy1
    I for one WANT to hear your SNIPPETS so keep it coming & also i hope your little boy recovers soon.

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  • scout

    Jul 15, 2013 at 6:33 AM

    Comment #40

    Maybe he is still working whilst on holiday??? Just a thought

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