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Cisse Issue Not Resolved – Magpies In Talks With PFA

9:10 am, Monday, July 15th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 33 Comments

It’s clear there has so far been no resolution on the Wonga controversy surrounding Newcastle’s number 9 Papiss Cisse, and his unwillingness to wear the Wonga insignia on his Newcastle strip.

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Papiss Cisse – problem not resolved with Wonga

And news today in the Evening Chronicle that Newcastle officials will be meeting with the Professional Footballers Association (PFA) in a bid to resolve the problem.

And since Derek LLambias has left Newcastle, we suppose this is being handled by Secretary Lee Charnley.

Newcastle are said to be meeting with the PFA today, and Bobby Barnes of the PFA has already said last month that they would support the player, so we suppose the meeting would be about what Cisse wears – if it’s not going to be the Wonga shirt.

Apparently Cisse had talks with Wonga as soon as he arrived back to pre-season training last Friday, and it turns out he did not train alone, but worked with both Yohan Cabaye and Mathieu Debuchy of part of their planned training.

The Daily Mirror suggested on Saturday Cisse was being told to train alone because he wouldn’t wear the Wonga shirt, but that was always unlikely to be true, and was probably a weak attempt to stir controversy at Newcastle – so what’s new?

This is what Barnes had said last month:

“We’re all aware that clubs need to generate revenue and sometimes have to use a wide range of companies.” “However, if someone feels very, very strongly that it’s not compatible with their beliefs, then some sort of solution should be found.”

“He’s been fantastic player at Newcastle; I’d like to think they would want to do as much as they could do for him to continue scoring the goals without compromising his beliefs.”

Whether you agree or disagree with Cisse’s views on Wonga, he has every right not to wear the Wonga insignia for religious reasons.

We suppose this all has to be sorted out before the game on Saturday in Portugal against Rio Ave, which could be the first time we see Cisse make an appearance for Newcastle in the new Newcastle Wonga shirt – or not in the new Newcastle Wonga shirt. :D

We would expect there would be some resolution on this before Saturday, and of course the side leaves for Portugal on Wednesday, after the first pre-season friendly game at Motherwell on Tuesday evening.

And we see no way that Cisse would be leaving the club because of this issue, it will be resolved one way on another, and sooner rather than later.

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33 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Santon03 // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:12 AM

    Jesper

    Hopefully LOL

    Either he change or he will be changed if the results don’t improve. Desperate man under pressures usually can change, usually LOL

  • 2 Santon03 // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:15 AM

    These journos really keep making things up negatively.

  • 3 TorqToon // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:16 AM

    Still talking about wonga!

    This is tedious!

  • 4 beddersmag // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:17 AM

    Still to see a direct quote from someone closely involved that this is indeed a real issue but assuming it is then imo he is using this as an excuse to push for a move. As someone said muslims are against making interest from loans so any lending institution should be an issue, and who gets to decide what APR% becomes a problem. I dont buy it-if its even an issue, could well be ramadam. Its bloody hot to train without water.

  • 5 Santon03 // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:18 AM

    beddersmag

    I agree with you, I think he is pushing for a move.

  • 6 Santon03 // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:21 AM

    so what happen if a muslim want to get a loan for house or car? They don’t want interest because it’s against their belief?

  • 7 peasngravy // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:21 AM

    Morning Torq,
    How ya doing mate, any news on potential incomings, Danno seemed to be hinting at Remy yday

  • 8 Santon03 // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:22 AM

    Citibank has branch in Saudi

  • 9 TorqToon // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    Peas – Morning mate.

    Nothing new mate. All very quiet. Too quiet.

    Think we all need a top signing to lighten the mood somewhat!

  • 10 jeff // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    read PFA as PEA

  • 11 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    Torq,
    Incredibly tedious. Especially as Cisse, nor his representatives, nor the club, nor wonga, and nor the PFA (note Bobby Barnes use of the word “IF”)have actually stated there is an issue.

    And as i stated on Saturday, Cisse training in the Gym was just a normal start to pre season for a player that was not involved in the first week.

    As for today’s meeting, nothing concrete from the club there. Both the Chron and the Journal got it wrong about when Kinnear was on holiday, and Pardew returned to his desk on separate occasions. Ryder doesn’t know his arse from his elbow.

  • 12 lesh // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:24 AM

    Given the number of Muslims we have as first team players, there is a possibility that there could be four or five not sporting the W logo.

    That could cause a problem with the sponsor which may threaten to pull out of the deal or reduce its sponsorship due to frustration of the agreement.

  • 13 TorqToon // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:25 AM

    On Danno – He is convinced that a deal for
    Remy is pretty much done. That would be a cracking start.

    Add siem de jong and a 3rd choice CB. Then everybody would be much happier!

  • 14 geordiemark // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:26 AM

    players have to much power these days, wonga is the sponsor thats it we all hate them, cissie didnt mind wearing the virgin top so cissie please either wear the top or put in a transfer request because am sure its leading up to just that

  • 15 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    Lesh,
    Most of them have already trained in the Wonga logo last week.

  • 16 TorqToon // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:28 AM

    Lilo – Morning mate! A distinct lack of sources from anybody. I personally don’t believe the issues are as reported.

    My wife is pretty close to Rach Graham and she hasn’t once mentioned about any issues regarding Pappis, wonga or NUFC as a whole.

  • 17 geordiemark // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    can you imagine any players these days playing under the leadership of the likes of author cox. bill shankley,bob paisley,brian clough ect ect ect yeah I know times have changed but god they wouldnt have lasted 2 minutes under any of them

    players should shut up and play football thats what there paid to do its as simple as that, there paid stupid wages endorsments ect ect and they think there it then its simple hand in a transfer request mr cissie

  • 18 Santon03 // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    IF Real Madrid (BWin) signed Cisse, I doubt he would complain.
    If he signed with MU and MU changed sponsor into Wonga, I doubt he would complain.

  • 19 geordiemark // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    santon

    spot on, going on the whole of last season none of the players warrented there wages at all at the end of the day there pro players, if any of us said anything in the workplace we would be sacked in a matter of seconds these lot get away with blue murder at times about time it stopped, they are paid to play football simple as that they should keep there mouths shut and get on with it

  • 20 hdavid23 // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    Poor George Carlin is rolling in his grave right now…

  • 21 Spotlight Kid // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    Comparing Wonga to Virgin Money = Comparing Mafia style protection rackets to Co-op insurance.

    Wonga is a black hole of shame in the middle of a shirt we once were proud of. Ashley is really sticking it to us big time with this one; but hey we’re Geordies, we’re used to it, and as long as its legal and help buys a decrepit, unreliable has-been like Bent it’s all worth it, eh?

    ‘Don’t talk such crap SK, they are a legal business and there’s nothing wrong with loan sharks, exponential daily compounding interest, 5853% APR, untruthful websites and preying on the vulnerable as a key part of the business plan. And DON’T forget the wise and wonderful Wonga-Wonga spirit gave the name of the ground back to us after big powerful Mashley-god-who-knows-all took it away!’**

    ** Bills-son, just copy and past this bit to save time

  • 22 mindshaft // Jul 15, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    Can’t help thinking this story is a load of bollocks…
    however if true I wonder if you can buy a Cisse toon shirt without the Wonga logo on it

  • 23 giimps // Jul 15, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    More than likely the press making things up since they arent getting anything from the club.
    Joe our saviour is back from his jolies so watch out for a few names appearing on our first team squad .
    As long as we bring in 2 strikers + 1 if Shola goes.
    That means we will have increased our available strikers from 1 to 4.
    HWTL

  • 24 nut meg // Jul 15, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    wonga… AGAIN!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

  • 25 wynsleap // Jul 15, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Cisse has every right to refuse to wear the Wonga strip just as we have every right to refuse to back Ashley.
    This problem wouldn’t have arisen if we hadn’t got such a classless, thoughtless, disrespectful and unambitious regime.

  • 26 karasu // Jul 15, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    this is stupid. who our shirt sponsor is should be the least of our concerns.

  • 27 lesh // Jul 15, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    Lilongwe @15.

    You’re right of course but you know what folk are like when it could come down to the ‘how good a Muslim, Christian etc’ a person is raises its head..

  • 28 I I I // Jul 15, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    It is the Onus of Wonga to be respectful of Cisse’s and other supporters religious beliefs. In the end it would be more beneficial in terms of marketing and brand appreciation that Wonga stands by and supports Cisse’s decision. BEFORE I GET HECKLED – A case in point is South Africa’s batsmen Hashim Amla who with the support of Castle Lager was permitted to wear a non branded shirt. South African Breweries gained more credit from this decision than the announcement of the initial sponsorship. Think Wonga Think

  • 29 Sav // Jul 15, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Seville managed sensible compromise for Kanoute. Probably too much to hope for here. Having said that, its the Islamic principle, not the rates of interest at issue, surely? So if Virgin is Ok, why not Wonga? Kanoute was hypocritical for refusing to be a billboard for bet 365 but supporting Palestine over Israel on his football shirt. I don’t argue with the sentiment but I don’t think its sportsmen’s place to do that on the pitch. In their interviews and private life, that is another matter.

  • 30 croftus5678 // Jul 15, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    absolute blks and if it is true its just cisse wanting out and nothing to do with wonga which will make me lose a lot of respect for him tbh !

    the other muslims are happy wearing it as they have been seen in training wearing them so he’s either trying to force himself out and unsettling the other muslims by doing so or there is nothing to this story.

    if we do lose him and dont move fast in the market though we are completely screwed for next season without a proven to our team striker.

  • 31 shamsoftabriz // Jul 15, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    Wonga are pure evil. We have no business stooping so low as to accept such a company as our sponsor. Period. Good for Cisse.

  • 32 microbar // Jul 15, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    So will the club have non Wonga shirts available for the fans with strong beliefs. I will not personally wear this abysmal advertisement.

  • 33 chuck // Jul 15, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    Why are so many riled up at Cisse ?
    Does he not have every right to object to this organisation, that preys on the poor, charging rates that even the mafia would be embarrassed to ask 500 pct.
    And if most of you folks living on Tyneside had any cojones you would show your objection also, but obviously there are those above who see nothing wrong with WONGA and will I suppose spend their money on a cheapass shirt and have no compunction about advertising this disgusting loanshark outfit.
    With some irritated with the stand Cisse has taken, even suggesting he is using the issue to negotiate a move away, completely without any foundation of course.
    I suggest there may be an anti-Muslim feeling and possibly a racist agenda here ?
    Better to buy one of the older replica shirts, at least it will send a message to Ashley, that NUFC fans have minds of their own and won’t just role over for everything he wants.




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