Are Wonga Forcing Cisse Out Of Newcastle?


The Shields Gazette on Monday suggested that Newcastle may have to sell Papiss Cisse, and that his career was in danger at Newcastle, and now the Daily Mirror is reporting that Papiss Cisse will be sold by Newcastle.

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Papiss Cisse – Wonga insisting on him wearing their insignia?

We know there’s a dispute over Cisse not wanting to wear the Wonga sign for religious reasons, but there’s a simple solution to this, and it’s that Cisse has already offered to wear a blank shirt or else wear a shirt with some Charity logo on it.

That seems a reasonable solution, and was the way Spanish club Sevilla handled a similar situation when Frederic Kanoute refused to wear a betting company logo on his shirt several years ago.

That would seem to be one way to deal with the problem, but as we mentioned earlier today, that would only be possible if Wonga agreed to it.

Wonga is paying Newcastle a reported £24M over four years – the biggest sponsor deal ever by Newcastle – and we have to think it’s Wonga who is objecting to this.

We don’t have any inside information on this, but if you look at what’s happening it’s certainly a reasonable probability, especially for the iconic Newcastle number 9 short, which Cisse wears.

And if this is true, the situation may be a lot more serious than we first thought.

Cisse was not on the flight to Portugal today and was not included in the 23 man squad for the week-long training camp, but if this Wonga deal means we will have to sell Cisse, unless he agrees to wear the Wonga insignia, that would be simply ridiculous.

This problem  is nothing less than evidence that Newcastle have signed up with a company that is not respected in the UK, and certainly Newcastle fans were not happy when this sponsorship deal was announced, whatever money Newcastle were being paid over the four-year deal.

Newcastle have signed up with a company which are a pay-day lender, and these companies charge ridiculously high interest rates to poor people, who often don’t have the credit rating to qualify for normal loans

It’s something that is prohibited in many states in the US, including North Carolina where I live – because of the prohibitive interest rates being charged to the poor.

If the Wonga deal means we have to lose one of our best players, then the deal is simply not worth it.

What do you think?.

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197 comments so far

  • darrenfletcher88

    Jul 17, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    Comment #1

    There’s only one person force in cissie out of the club and that’s pappis cissie!!!!

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Jul 17, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    Comment #2

    Maybe some of these footballers should have a thought for the poor souls that make the football boots they wear in third world countries getting paid pennies a week.

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  • 9

    Jul 17, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    Comment #3

    For Heaven’s sake! Cisse goes nowhere, please, boys, don’t contribute to this no-account thread. Shame on you, Ed!

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  • darrenfletcher88

    Jul 17, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    Comment #4

    @post 3,I do agree what a shite thread!!! Total pap typical media with a big spoon

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  • manxpie

    Jul 17, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    Comment #5

    repost

    370manxpie // Jul 17, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    big pappa have a look at hiadaras twitter profile pic and you’ll get ya answer lol
    el sleeve where do you buy your clothes i suppose its from charity shops
    and your coffee is fair trade??
    or you dont watch sky sports or any advertising firm
    do you no the moral ethics of big companies?
    look what happened recently at a sweatshop in bangladesh?
    most big companies in the world use near enogh slave labour including adidas n nike do you own any of them?
    or do you just choose which morals that fit in to your life?

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 17, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    Comment #6

    TP,
    Okay, you believe the club is run badly, if that is correct, why do you think high profile people at the club tell Lee Ryder the actual truth? At best Ryder is a gullible chap who keeps getting sold down the river by the club(in which case his articles and info are worthless), at worst he is as happy as Peter Beardsley to back Ashley and his plan for mediocrity, in which case why does that make his articles believable.

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  • JackButler

    Jul 17, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    Comment #7

    So it cost’s 24 million to lease your soul for four years!!!!

    Dont blame Cisse if he is refusing to wear that sponsor on his shirt as I myself will no be buying one

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  • El Sleeve

    Jul 17, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    Comment #8

    unfortunately none of us can be perfect but that doesnt mean we cant make choices when presented with them.

    so i suppose you think i should just accept this wonga stuff and put up with it?

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  • El Sleeve

    Jul 17, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    Comment #9

    jackbutler gets it

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  • fatman

    Jul 17, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    Comment #10

    i gave my shirt money to charity, i will also never buy one. some thing are worth making a stand over this is one of them.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 17, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    Comment #11

    TP,
    You ask what it matters to get exclusives. Well, an exclusive is getting a story before anyone else. So, IF the Ronny were so close to the club they were get them all, yet they only seem to ever get exclusives that end up being incorrect. You say it doesn’t matter if the Ronny get them or not. They are either the closest or they aren’t, if they get exclusives, they are close, if they don’t, they aren’t.

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  • manxpie

    Jul 17, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    Comment #12

    jack come on mate a bit dramatic lol
    so you were happy with northan rock that us the tax payers had to bail out?
    now i dont like the sponsor either but i find it funny how people seem to pick there morals
    so do you live a totally ethical life?

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  • darrenfletcher88

    Jul 17, 2013 at 11:53 PM

    Comment #13

    Same old toon everything’s a circus! It’s a top with a name on it.wear it for god sake.he dosent moan about betting when he’s in the casinos all the time!! He thinks he bigger than the club players such as Ben Arfa sissoko and check are all happy with it as they are Muslim to just sort it out already!!!

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  • El Sleeve

    Jul 17, 2013 at 11:53 PM

    Comment #14

    not about leading a totally ethical life. not even possible unless u live in a hut in the woods.

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  • Jackel001

    Jul 17, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    Comment #15

    BYE THEN!

    We have a canny few Muslims in our squad and they are wearing it so whats the problem?

    I’ve seen him and Tiote in aspers casino so so many times gambling…. His belief forbids that.

    He just wants out!

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Jul 17, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    Comment #16

    @ manx

    Or Brown ale. I bet my bottom dollar alcohol has caused more deaths than all the pay day loan companies put together yet people still wear their vintage shirts all the time.

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  • JackButler

    Jul 17, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    Comment #17

    manxpie

    Not dramatic at all mate, go check out their interest rate’s!

    As for northan rock, they were just one of many banks that were bailed out by the tax payer’s but there is a world of difference between the like’s of northan rock, virgin money and wonga, 365% interest is something that no one can openly support

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Jul 17, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    Comment #18

    All this debate and the story probably has no substance and is completely fabricated. No direct quotes what so ever from Cisse and no indication that he is unhappy. For all we know he uses Wonga regularly 🙂

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    Comment #19

    Manx,
    The moral issue is a good debate. Most dilapidated high streets in poor areas have 2/3 bookies minimum. And many of these people in them bet their last 5/10 quid in there. Resulting in being desperate for cash. The patrons are, mostly, struggling to get buy hoping for cash, and end up needing a bit of short term cash to get them through the month (or for another gamble). What is worse, the cause or the effect? Alcohol causes even more social problems. Odd how people pick their ethical battles.

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  • manxpie

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    Comment #20

    el sleeve but at the end of the day that company is there because there is a need do you agree?
    and if you use it the right way then you shouldn’t get in trouble!
    but the same government that has begun a review into such companies has give a free reign to gambling companies its shocking the ammount of adverts for such companies!
    but that seems ok for some reason (i wonder why!!!)
    the facts are all companies look to make the biggest profit so if you take such an ethical view on 1 you should all otherwise your the biggest hypocrite around ya can’t use one for an argument then support the rest surely??

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    Comment #21

    Lilongwe,

    But you do agree though that this is the closest we do get to any sort of information? Regardless of where or how it is collected by the newspaper itself? Whether it to be lies from the club or not is irrelevant to this discussion.

    Im not sure what my thoughts on how the club to be run on the footballing side has anything to do with this topic.

    Your in Lilongwe right? Im guessing.

    Ed posts news daily from the Chronicle’s website, as does many redtop newspapers. Interviews and so forth.

    Your in Lilongwe, without this information from the Chronicle you would know next to nout if it wasn’t for the Chronicle newspaper, sister papers and websites.

    At a guess, 90% of NUFC information what we all adhere to and discuss is picked up and written from the Chronicle.

    I’v got to dash because im at work, I’ll try and comment when I can though.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    Comment #22

    JB,
    Northern Rock’s collapse cost some people there homes….. Higher interest rate or a roof over your head? Neither have good business practices, but at least Wonga are open about their’s. Barclays have just been fined 255 or 355 million dollars (Cant’t remember, but one of the 2 figures.) for energy price fixing in the US. Let’s also boycott the premier league for bad practice.

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  • jimmysmith

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    Comment #23

    People surely take the stands they can in life, but we all gotta swim in the same water. Personally I think there are clear distinctions between Northern Rock, Virgin Money, gambling in a casino and not wanting to publicly endorse Wonga. Plus, I don’t know why and where Cisse draws his lines in the sand, but the word hypocrite gets thrown around too easily, generally speaking, in my view.

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  • JackButler

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:07 AM

    Comment #24

    Lilongwe

    And if Northan Rock were charging 365% interest then I would not have bought a shirt with their name on it

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  • manxpie

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:09 AM

    Comment #25

    jack go n tell that to the poor people who lost everything when there “promises” weren’t met by northern rock or many other banks?
    but i suppose it was ok because they were respectable hey??
    you have heard of the credit crunch i suppose you know? why the worlds in the shit? and that’s because these respectable companies (banks) promised the world to any rotunda n ketsbia!!
    and guess what?
    thats why theres companies like wonga

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    Comment #26

    TP,
    Yeah, I’m in Lilongwe, I hear lots other than the chronicle, there are plenty more reputable sources other than those close to. Take a step back to see the fuller picture, sort of thing. Plus other sources, each with a pinch of salt.

    However, I have met, sat next to at youth games, and drunk with Ryder, and I can honestly say he is not knowledgeable. Edwards had better sources, but a chi on his shoulder. The closest to actually printing a semblance of truth in the north east are Douglas and Cameron.

    Have a good shift! I need to get away as well, got a farm visit early doors tomorrow.

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  • Eddie

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    Comment #27

    Cisse out, Rooney in. End of problem. Yawn. Burp.

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  • brian kilclines pony tail

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    Comment #28

    anyone who buys one should remove the sponsor as best they can and carry on wearing the shirt.

    if cisse is being a twat about it he should be held to contract because he didnt have an issue with northern rock who are money lenders.

    This is either a scam to get a new contract which he couldnt sign now surely because it would be selling your beliefs, or a transfer.

    I have to say well done to newcastle for not giving in to a players demands especially when they are contradictory to his previous religious views.

    I want him to leave after showing his true character, i think he showed it in his form last year too, i dont think he likes it here.

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  • manxpie

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    Comment #29

    lilo exactly i remember seein a report on the news that a street had 5 businesses close down and every 1 of them were takin over by betting shops they could even fit them in the 1 picture!!

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  • i

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:14 AM

    Comment #30

    If Cisse does have an issue with Wonga I would be amazed. Virgin lend money, Wonga lend money. Virgin typically charge 4.79%, Wonga charge 400%, but surely the interest rate is irrelevant. I very much doubt it is stipulated in the Koran how much interest a company can charge.

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  • Perchinho Pricing Blunder

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    Comment #31

    Hi, we’re the British media. What we like to do is put this here 2 in this pot and then this other 2 as well. Then we take this big spoon and stir it up for a bit, etc voila! 5!

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    Comment #32

    JB,
    Will you still follow the Premier League after Barclay have just been proven to have robbed millions of people by fixing energy prices? The fact is, all large financial institutions have immoral practices. The biggest 10 have paid over 20 billion dollars in fines over the last 30 years because of it. Wonga are open about their extortion, maybe if they weren’t people wouldn’t have an issue???

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  • JackButler

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    Comment #33

    manxpie

    I will not support a company like Wonga and its slightly confusing that you are ok with it when you have such strong views on what happened with Northan Rock!

    Do you think that people who borrow money from wonga never loose anything?

    Yeah they are upfront with their interest rates but that dosn’t make it right.

    and yeah at the time Northan rock were a respectable company but the fall out was sickening but hindsight has 20×20 vision

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  • Bearsize

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    Comment #34

    If i had the service cisse had last season i would leave. We were that bad

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  • toonie

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:22 AM

    Comment #35

    You would think players contracts included the wearing of sponsors shirts / logos to avoid this crap.
    Other side of the coin…Please let us have our pride in NUFC back Mike. Is choosing a sponsor like Wonga really showing your class or Yet another poor management move???

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  • RonVanDam

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:22 AM

    Comment #36

    Cisse is the best instinctive striker we’ve had since Shearer. Would hate to see him go. One of my favourite players

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    Comment #37

    JB,
    But it is no longer hindsight, and people still use without qualms other established financial institutions.

    Personally, I’m not okay with any of the financial industries but to complain about one who is open about their pactices, and be fine with ones that have been repeatedly fined for bad and hidden practices is very odd. It shows either a lack of knowledge, or a happiness to not care about what isn’t in your face.

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  • manxpie

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    Comment #38

    jack please read through my posts again especially the part where i said ” now i dont like the sponsor either but i find it funny how people seem to pick there morals”?

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:26 AM

    Comment #39

    @ JB

    You are missing the point. I doubt any NUFC fan in the world would chose a pay day loan company as our sponsor, but it has happened and it is not the end of the world.

    It amazes me to hear people say they will not wear the shirt because it is immoral, yet have worn all previous NUFC kits that are made in third world countries by children in sweat shops being paid pennies.

    Then again it is popular to hate pay day loan companies at the minute. The media will have a new scape goat in a months time.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 18, 2013 at 12:29 AM

    Comment #40

    Manx,
    I remember being in Consett about 15/16 months ago, within 100yards there was a Laddies, Coral BetFred and Billy Hill. Those 4 were probably the busiest places.

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