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Joe Kinnear Keeping A Low Profile And That’s Good News

1:30 pm, Thursday, July 18th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 216 Comments

The initial plan was for Director of Football Joe Kinnear to accompany the Newcastle squad to Motherwell on Tuesday night, but Joe didn’t make the trip, and instead was watching some of the Newcastle youngsters as they went down 3-0 to Hamilton Academicals at Benton.

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Joe Kinnear keeping low profile – so far so good

Joe Kinnear’s remit includes bringing in players at all levels to Newcastle, and the youngsters are important, because it seems that when they were given their big chance in the first team last season, they were found wanting, and owner Mike Ashley was not too pleased about that.

In a way Joe is responsible for who’s in the Newcastle squad, and Alan Pardew is responsible for getting the best out of who’s in the Newcastle squad – that’s one simple way to look at their two jobs.

Joe will be measured on how the teams do at all levels at Newcastle, although of course the first team is by far the most important, and he will be heavily judged on how successful the players are he brings into the club.

And as we mentioned yesterday, we haven’t heard from Joe Kinnear at all this week, and that’s good and it will be important for Kinnear in his new job to keep a low profile.

We assume the reason Joe didn’t attend the Motherwell game is that he is also working around the clock to bring in two strikers at Newcastle, and indeed Alan Pardew said earlier this week he hoped Newcastle would have a new player on Tyneside in the next week.

Newcastle fans are not too happy that there’s just 46 days left in this summer’s transfer window (we assume it ends on Monday 2nd September) and we haven’t got one senior player through the door yet, and only one youngster in 16 year-old Olivier Kemen from Metz.

Things are not great at Newcastle at the moment, so we’ll have to keep winning our pre-season games to keep the mood of the fans positive.

But we must get two top strikers through the door before September rolls around, and the earlier the better, and three if we are forced to sell Papiss Cisse, with the Wonga impasse as it stands right now not looking too good.

But surely that’s not going to happen?

What do you think?

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216 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Ben3arfa // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    He isnt signing any players either though ..

  • 2 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    Kinnear and low profile are words that don’t go together.

  • 3 expatmag // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    Evening all from Oz

    So, it appears as usual, we cant get through a pre season without some sort of major drama.

    We should all be awarded medals as big as frying pans for supporting this lot.

  • 4 G // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    If he has been appointed in charge of player recruitment, and he doesn’t recruit, he gets sacked. Kind of win-win in a backhanded kind of way.

  • 5 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:36 PM


    too simple to say they have a choice

    if its either get a wonag loan or go without food/rent for the month what do you do? it can easily spiral out of control for those on very low incomes, especially if an unexpected bill/cost occurs

    it’s a serious issue, hence why it is debated in government.

    I like to make sure all companies are fair if i am using them or their products….can’t be perfect, obviously make some i miss but this is a totally non-essential product and its easy to boycott

  • 6 southerngeordie // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    Sad day when good news is your DoF not calling someone a c*nt and addressing your Pappa Settee.

  • 7 Tinman // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    Devon, but then how many great left footed LB should I name?
    Plenty of left footed LB can use their right foot also, making it difficult for the opposition to guess which way they are going… Marcelo is the first name that comes to mind at the minute.
    Of course there are exceptions to every rule. Lahm being one. Santon could well go on to be a great player, I am not disputing that.
    I just have a problem witht he fact that Santon doesnt go down the line enough. I would much prefer my LB, and LW for that matter, to go down the line 75% of the time and inside 25%. Rather than the other way round.

  • 8 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    the majority that use wonga wont be like the adverts where they smile cause they got a holiday etc

    most use it as it is essential…if your income only just covers living costs and and unexpected expense arrises these people have no choice.

    hence the reason they sponsor us and blackpool and not rich areas of the country.

  • 9 southerngeordie // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    Sad day when good news is considered your DoF not calling someone a c**t and addressing your striker as Pappa Settee

  • 10 Tinman // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    Transfer, I disagree, with even half decent money management even people on the income support shouldnt need a Wonga loan. Problem is most of them spend the money they get on tabs, alcohol and drugs.

  • 11 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    and i was in agreement with charlie in the gallowgate i see nothing being directed at him one sided bullying to the enth degree macas care to comment to him on that

  • 12 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    Richyg and tinman


    Is it the kids fault for working in those sweat shops – no, they do because they have to………same thing as the people using wonga.

  • 13 Tinman // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    Offkey, the kids working in sweat shops dont get supported like people do in our country. FACT.

  • 14 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    Tinman – That 55 quid a week (jsa) doesn’t get you far in this country though.

  • 15 richyg01 // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    @ 5

    At the end of the day, a payday loan is like having a credit card.

    Use it responsibly and pay it back and you are fine. Get carried away, miss a payment, over borrow/spend, then you only have YOURSELF to blame – consequences are outlined in the terms and conditions.

  • 16 expatmag // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    Anyone heard from Torq or danno today

  • 17 Tinman // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    Of course it doesnt get you far, its not designed to. Noone would work if it did stretch far.
    What it will do is put food on the table whilst you search for a job. However a lot of people, and I stress not everyone, dont ever want a job and are happy to live off income support for the rest of their lives.

  • 18 SeanNufc87 // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    Tin man

    This will get your goat then, jonas is right footed, he doesn’t like playing on the right as he cant cut inside and fire the ball out the stadium. That lad cant shoot for toffee

  • 19 Macas // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    John Tudor – So in other words you didn’t report me because there was nothing to report me for. So why say that you had? And I didn’t say anything to Charlie because it was you who replied to me, or have you forgotten that as well? And all this talk about bullying, I mean come on, are you serious??? All I did was mention your conversation with Charlie, as the pair of you were slagging off Kinnear for not being at Motherwell, which you denied you had done.

  • 20 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Tinman – thats the point, its not everyone. Some people are forced due to circumstances, to use wonga, they take advantage of this……..I am not saying others dont, but it does not make it good practice that everybody should be happy with.

  • 21 Tinman // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    Sean, I cant stand Jonas on the wing, much prefer him through the centre.
    And I also dislike our current set up of HBA on right and Gouf on the left. HBA has the skills to almost get away with it, but I would still much prefer it if he was played on the left or through the centre

  • 22 Jail for Ashley // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    You’d be better off asking Jeeves than Toon Danno.

  • 23 Ian Toon // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    Rotonda –
    Maybe you didn’t study other religions when you went to school mate!

    The Quran is the central religious text of Islam, which Muslims believe to be the verbatim word of God. It is widely regarded as the finest piece of literature in the Arabic language.

    Stick to criticising Pardew.

  • 24 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    you were not reported i said you had been put on a list of people who are to be avoided see there you go failing to read a post just surmising the worst que sara

  • 25 expatmag // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:57 PM


    Very good, sir.

    So, no change then. No new players in but the possibility of Cisse and Cabaye leaving?

    Never mind. At least Vuckic will be like a new player,

  • 26 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:58 PM


    people cant always pay it back…if your whole income is spent every week its difficult to put money aside for emergencies or loans.

    I agree some use it irresponsibly and that terms are stated before but its not easy if you have such a low income as some do.

    I don’t think it’s fair to blame everyone who gets in financial trouble, it can’t be helped for some…not everyone is in total control of their circumstances and has a regular income.

  • 27 Macas // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    John Tudor –

    John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    enough said no more comments i was trying to have a discussion on here not to have a row
    ed has been informed and i watching my posts and my replies tyvm

    That selective memory kicking in again I see John.

  • 28 Tinman // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    Offkey, as I said before, if those people managed the money they are given properly then they would never need a Wonga loan.
    £55 a week is ample. Fair enough it may mean they have a poor and boring diet, they cant have a tv, they cant go to the pub, they cant have sky tv or bt broadband, they have to buy 2nd hand clothes etc. But I’m afraid thats what you have to accept when you dont have a job and are capable of having one.

    If anything they should think themselves lucky they live in a country where other peoples earnings are used to support others in their time of need.

  • 29 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    there you go again read the posts correctly so now you saying i spoke to you .you directed a comment to me and why no response to him you clearly have a problem with my comments so why not admit it

  • 30 toon kk // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    I think we’re a joke, not one signing, penny pinching and desperately needing strikers is pathetic. It all about money. MA has no ambition and doesn’t give a toss about us as fans, all he wants is our coin.

  • 31 DevonToon // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    Sage – cant really compare wonga to Al Qaeda. Wonga charge higher rates because they deal in high risk loans. Banks are just as bad, if not worse. I dont remember many fans moaning at newkie brown being our sponsor.. alcoholism’s pretty aweful like. I should quit my job, cos im a bookie. I should stop drinking beers cos im funding companies who ruin lives, i should stop playing fifa cos fifa is corrupt. I shouldnt wear my jeans, t shirts etc cos a chinese child made them.. The world is a sh##y place. Morals only matter when people choose

  • 32 Novocastrian66 // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    Sage; and Samsung sponsor Chelsea as the southerners are the only ones who can afford to buy their products. Talk about stereotyping bollocks.

  • 33 BandB // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    When the history of this club comes to be written, these years will come to be seen a among the darkest in its history. Like living in a country that’s been taken over by a crackpot dictator, where wrong is right and right is wrong.
    In recent years I’ve seen all the people who have given me pleasure and enhanced the name of Newcastle United …Shearer, Keegan, Robson and others, dismissed as nobodies on here by people defending whatever policy Mike Ashley has dreamed up for that given day.
    Now Papiss Cisse is a hypocrite and a greedy Muslim by those cheer-leading for a deal with company run by truly horrible people, which few of us ever welcomed. Why would you want to choose to be on the wrong side of history?
    Maybe someone needs to make a “Support the Regime, not the Team” banner.

  • 34 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    Tinman – I agree somewhat – but there is a small proportion who say, loser their job – support is not generally as quick as needed and they are left in dire straights with few options . A company taking advantage of this is not something I think is good.

  • 35 joeinthecheapseats // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    John Tudor
    Lighten up its a football blog hopefully some transfer news will spark some decent debate later in the day.

  • 36 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    he had been informed but it was to track what i said and the replies i received not one persons comments in particular please feel free to slate one party but not the other your hole gets deeper by the character

  • 37 richyg01 // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:03 PM


    No, that is agreed, you cannot tie everyone to the same brush.

    For quite a few of the people who are kicking up a fuss, it is much easier and more appealing to click a mouse than it is to get off their ar$e and go get a paid job.

    But I would say that to brand a pay day loan company as ‘exploiters’ is a bit harsh, at the end of the day they are providing a service which people obviously need – whether that be responsibly or not so.

  • 38 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    joe its him who needs to lighten up slag one but not the other howay man

  • 39 Jail for Ashley // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    Nothing new at all pal hopefully something to cheer us up before the weekend though.

  • 40 expatmag // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    Geez, only Newcastle United could get themselves embroiled in a war of attrition involving religious beliefs.

    Whatever happened to the grand old days of Joe Harvey and Supermac rocking up to SJP in a yellow rolls Royce.

  • 41 expatmag // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:06 PM


    Hoping for a win in Portugal then……LOL

  • 42 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    there was a decent debate going its always the same,outspoken views shot down twisted to suit the other sides arguments ffin bullying he should have called himself flashman

  • 43 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    Richy – Its a service that takes advantage of a proportion of people (deem it big or small, it makes little difference) does it make it right…..not IMO. Personally, the government should do more for this group and less for those that wont get off their ar$e, they just cant figure out how………this does not make the service they provide a good service

  • 44 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:09 PM


    marketing is sterotyping….thats what a good marketer does. You advertise your products in areas where the people will buy them. It’s basics of marketing.


    I was merely using al queda to show that at some point the sponsor would matter to everyone, not comparing them to wonga in anyway.


    tell that to people struggling on low income…some people work so dont get all the benefits and there money barely covers rent..never mind food and clothes. life isn’t that simple. ….money is essential for life in this country.

    I agree on alcohol, no idea how you can ban ciggarette ads but not alcohol…both legal drugs, both cause problems and both are free choice….strange how people see a big difference.

  • 45 Jail for Ashley // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    As sad as it may sound I haven’t really got that much interest in a pre season against teams I’ve never even heard of.

  • 46 Macas // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    John Tudor – The way you wrote it certainly made it look as though you were saying that it was me you were informing him about, but I’ll accept that explanation. But you need to stop this victimisation nonsense, as it was you that replied to my comment and not the other guy. I made a general comment and you replied to me directly, so I carried on the conversation with you.

  • 47 Macas // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    John Tudor – And where exactly have I bullied you?

  • 48 luke.r // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    I think people who say you only hav yourself to blame really don’t understand what people go through. It was the Tories moto in the 80’s and we all know what happened there! The fact is its just not as simple as paying back on time for some people and wonga do pray on that. Transfer sage is right, there’s a reason why they are advertising in Newcastle and Blackpool!

  • 49 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    so what you are doing is correct ,i could have a disability ,i could be foriegn with a small knowledge of english, or it may be you. i said ed had been informed and he was watching my post and the replies i received not anyone in particular

  • 50 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:12 PM


    i agree there….there are much bigger evils in the world than wonga

    just personally dont like our club, which is in a working class and less affluent region of the country, being associated with those types of companies.

  • 51 Macas // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    John Tudor – What on earth does it matter if you did have a disability? How is that relevant at all?

  • 52 richyg01 // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:16 PM


    I did not say they provided a ‘good’ service. I said the service they provide is needed.

    Sure, I am not a huge fan of advertising them, but at the end of the day, I buy the shirt for them black and white stripes and the badge, they are what gives the club its identity – not the sponsor.

  • 53 expatmag // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:16 PM


    True. I cannot wait till the real stuff starts, even if it means burning the midnight oil over here to watch the lads in action.

    I see the “usual suspect” in whining” again…………LOL.

  • 54 joeinthecheapseats // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    Ray parlour had been on talksport saying Arsenal should try and take advantage of the wonga row and buy Pappis Cisse
    The club needs to sort this out quickly as we won’t get anyone better than him.

  • 55 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    no macas it was you who directed the first one back to me,go look back,print as you pointed out does not lie,and it is read as it was spoken as was the other guys why just pick on me is it the fashion to jump on bloggers who others have taken a dislike to. just be mindful of that please

  • 56 Novocastrian66 // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Sage; my point is Wonga are not solely interested in advertising their services to the good folk of Blackpool and Newcastle. Football fans in general are the target customers not just the respective fans of both clubs.

  • 57 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    i think anything anyone say’s has a great relevance to an outcome

  • 58 Rotonda heights // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    got out the wrong side of bed Ian?

    I stand corrected. You give some useful info which I will take on board then resort to type with the abuse. Funny lad.

  • 59 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    Richyg – that brings me to my point – if it is not a ‘good’ service, we have the right to say we dont want it on our strip………same as Cisse refusing to wear it does not mean he is forcing a move

  • 60 nut meg // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    Just logged in & all i see is Wonga Wonga bloody Wonga.It’s doing my napper in.I’ll look in later i’m off to watch the golf.

  • 61 DevonToon // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    Tinman – cant argue with u really, u like a lefty on the left i like a righty. Each to his own. I just think santon cutting in and curling a ball into the six yard box is more dangerous than a lefty gettin to the byline and curling away from the sixyard box. Ps totally agree @ 9, 16 n 27 btw. If some lazy jsa twat needs to use wonga to pay for his/her sky bill, or next visit to the pub, they deserve everything they get…

  • 62 potski // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    Kanouté refused to wear a Sevilla shirt bearing the name of club sponsor, due to the fact the website is used for gambling, which is against the principles of Islam.

    Sevilla at first permitted him to wear a shirt with no sponsor on it and then persuaded him that simply by wearing the logo it didn’t imply that he was endorsing gambling. [I suspect that is what the other Muslim players decided in the Wonga case]

    The sponsor, also agreed to excuse him from their publicity campaigns in return for Kanouté wearing the sponsored kit on match days, which was part of the players’ contractual duties.

    In 2007, Kanouté paid more than US$700,000 out of his pocket to buy a mosque in Seville. The contract on the premises had expired and the mosque was due to be sold. The Islamic community of Spain confirmed it had requested Kanouté’s aid after the mosque was put up for sale. This has been linked to Kanouté ensuring he does charity work, to absolve him of any blame for the link with gambling.

    So it is surely possible to agree a way forward here, but the club have not done so. Why? They have had more than six months to sort it out. Are Wonga really insisting that Cisse’s face should appear on their website etc.?

    He could appear at matches in a normal strip. But then without the logo in training/travelling and other events (like the trip to Portugal). And his charity Friends of Sedhiou could benefit in some way:

    Treating him like a naughty school kid who has turned up for PE with the wrong kit, and not letting him play with the other boys, is just pathetic.

    Honestly I can see this developing into stories showing Muslims in some countries burning our shirt.

  • 63 expatmag // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:20 PM


    I think there might be a few clubs interested in exploiting the situation with Cisse but rest assured, considering he has a lengthy contract, Ashley wont let him go for peanuts

  • 64 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    why pick on one but not the other that is shameful have a little respect

  • 65 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Potski – good post

  • 66 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:22 PM


    obviously they advertise nationally…all areas of the country have poor regions.

    it no coincidence they chose newcastle and blackpool….there would be cheaper deals for them in the prem if they wanted it…the area does have something to do with it.

    Lots of companies associate themselves with other companies/clubs/people who are trusted and loved to ride their coattails and benefit off them.

    At the end of the day i don’t like them, no issue with people who do, or people who simply don’t care…its personal choice really.

  • 67 christoon5369 // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:23 PM

    cisse should put the shirt on inside out no refusing but not accepting to wear thats not written into their contract

  • 68 toon kk // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:23 PM

    All of MA staff p in the same pot, its all about running the club as cheaply as possible. All we ever get is the silent treatment.

  • 69 Macas // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:23 PM

    John Tudor – I made a general comment about those having a go at Kinnear, not just yourself. You made a comment back which although didn’t have my name on it was in direct reply to what I had said, so I carried on the conversation with you after that. And I’m not picking on anyone, but you were the one who replied to my comment. Stop playing yourself as the victim, it’s getting boring. And what was all the nonsense about disability you tried to bring into the conversation?

  • 70 Jail for Ashley // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    Mike Ashley is the devil, beelzebub himself, spawned from the bowels of hell and that’s why Cisse didn’t go to Portugal.

  • 71 Tinman // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    Sage, Offkey, fair enough lads. There are obviously the odd few exceptions who are caught out, you would be a fool not to acknowledge that. I’m off anyway, adios.

    Happy birthday Madiba 95 today, could well be his last birthday.

  • 72 christoon5369 // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:25 PM


    your getting boring now, change the record

  • 73 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:25 PM


    that example you have have the company and then kanoute willing to negotiate.

    What if cisse refuses outright and wonga refuse to keep paying the money, or even take legal action against nufc if cisse doesn’t wear it.

    NUFC is stuck between a rock and a hard place if neither will negotiate their stance.

  • 74 richyg01 // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    L’Equipe: Newcastle United are looking for a centre forward in France and the rumour is they had first contact with Marseille star Andre-Pierre Gignac.

  • 75 richyg01 // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:26 PM


    Not really, they will sell the player and keep the sponsor.

  • 76 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    no no no the first was a direct response to me you carried it on ed will confirm that or anyone one cares to read from the start will see

  • 77 Mister Tuff // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    For Christs Sake – will the contestants of the continuing 3 day brawl give it a rest please – whilst I can tolerate a lot – it really is becoming a drag/tedious.

  • 78 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    TS – I think it should be tested – if they wont negotiate let it go public and see what happens. I doubt it would come to that, and that any party would want that. I wouldn’t want it, it could wreck our season, but IMO its his right to refuse.

  • 79 expatmag // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    Putting 2 and 2 together and probably coming up with 5 but does anyone think Ashley could be close to selling the club.

    No money being spent
    Possible sales of top players
    Season ticket money coming in

    There was very little notice when Ashley bought the club or when City or Fulham were sold.

    Also, I seem to remember some poster called Elmanio stating a few weeks ago that we were in negotiations to be sold to the Prince of Saudi by the middle of July.

    Clutching at straws, I know but ever hopeful.

  • 80 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    thats what would have to happen but its not simple when cisse is the main striker…especially when we are already short upfront.

  • 81 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    from 31 then this on two post back maccas get it correct
    Macas // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    John Tudor – Do you have a short memory span? As you commented yourself on Kinnear not being there! And his remit was also to oversee the development of the youth players as far as I recall

  • 82 expatmag // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    Hello TUFF, you old tart.

    Ever heard of email??????????????????

  • 83 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    Cisse could also refuse the transfer, maybe far fetched, but I would respect him even more for it.

  • 84 lesh // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    Of course Joe’s quiet.

    Can we not realise that he has been and is working tirelessly to get the club sorted out.

    As well as watching a match at Longbenton, which he managed to squeeze into over his late lunch, he’s been trying to force a breakthrough in the transfer market. He’s not a one to boast but he’s been on the phone for the last week. But he still can’t get Fergie to discuss a bid for Rooney. He reckons that when he does pick the phone up, Fergie pretends to be his missus saying that the number he dialled has not been recognised.

    Does he give up his quest for greatness for Wimbledon?


    Time for your afternoon nap now Joe. Just one little injection and… Zzzzzzzzzz!

  • 85 Mister Tuff // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    expatmag – afternoon how are things. You queried earlier on -whether the ITK’s are about.
    They are probably checking their tarot cards, tea leaves and ouija boards in readiness for their evening posts.

  • 86 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    please feel free to twist shout ball me out over it
    i know im in the right over this one

  • 87 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:31 PM


    of course it’s his right…good of him to stand up if its his belief…whether religious or personal.

  • 88 Macas // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    christoon5369 – I really couldnt care less what you think, it’s got nothing to do with you

  • 89 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    TS – Exactly

  • 90 Mister Tuff // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    expatmag -apologies for the lack of an email -when I get around to it you’ll understand the delay.

  • 91 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    expat yes he is selling the club probably to some muslins
    ironic isn’t it

  • 92 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    mister tuff

    i know i get bits of info but very slow

    posted a few days ago that it was the first time i heard anything and it was a signing to be done early next week…massively vague so dont mind people claiming im not itk…its all i have.

  • 93 Macas // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    John Tudor – Did you actually read what I said? I said you repled to me without using my name, which you know fine well you did. Try checking out your comment to me before that, you didn’t put my name on but it was a direct reply to what I said. All this nonsense about bullying and disabilities just sums up what kind of character you are. You need to stop playing the victim.

  • 94 expatmag // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:35 PM


    Law of averages that one of them will get one right sooner or later.

    We are good over here. Just had our warmest winter day ever in Melbourne today……………..23.3 degrees

    Then the storms hit and flooded the bloody garage………….lol

    Got the missus and the kid to sweep it out though

  • 95 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    bullying talk that is

  • 96 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:36 PM


    too many people go along with things these days in the western world without standing up against it…we have lost the will to protest, we accept nearly everything on the grounds its for our own good.

  • 97 DevonToon // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    EVERY big company is only interested in making money… Everything is bloody money this money that! Big companies target the poor and in need because they are the easiest to exploit, thats life. Its no different from the school bully picking on the weak. So far wonga has only done good things for us fans, eg re-naming SJP

  • 98 christoon5369 // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    i dont care what you think either but my opinion is you talking cr4p now and your boring
    the blog is to talk football and offer opinions and debate, not squabble over daft things like who did what to who first
    hence you being boring

  • 99 viv // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    Kinnear keeping a low profile with that Gut! No chance.

  • 100 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    macass for all on here it will be verified, i was in a conversation, you then directed a comment to me 5-10 minutes l8r .only then i defend myself you never once berated the others i believe it was slank we were all in agreement the no-one of importance was in the directors box

  • 101 Macas // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    christoon5369 – It’s quite simple, don’t read my posts if you’re not interested. And if I’m being accused of being a bully for no reason then I think I have the right to defend myself. And by the way, could you stop clogging the blog up with your non-football related posts…

  • 102 sello // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    I reckon cisse has to go. He obviously wants to. Does anybody think he would be kicking up a stink at a really top club.answer is no. I really think we could do better than him anyway. Sell him for 15m. Buy back demba for 10m , remy for 8. And bent for 6. Outlay of 9 mill. End up with 3 proven premier league scores, plus goufran and Campbell.

  • 103 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    TS – I just find it difficult to understand why people would insult someone for standing up for what they believe is right (as long as it does not cause harm to others, of course, )

  • 104 toonincheek // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    People use Wonga in an emergancy.

    Rather than just criticise the interest rate (and service charge, that is NOT interest) – you have to consider what alternatives there are for people with a poor credit rating (through misuse?) and a Wonga loan.

    As for Cisse (and obviously making assumptions based on newspaper reports) – as a strict Muslim (and not all are strict) he cannot accept interest being charged on loans.

    Virgin, Barclays etc – they are all same.
    They all charge interest.
    If it’s a matter of principle for Cisse, the rate of interest, and service charge don’t come into it.

  • 105 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:43 PM


    of course all companies are about money…its how our economies work….its about few having it all and the rest having whats left.

    my point is most companies target all people..where as wonga is a company which targets those struggling…its the struggles who fail to pay back on time and incur the high fees after that.

    thats my say on wonga, talked it to death the past months since they signed.

  • 106 viv // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    NUFC have made a bid for Andre Pierre from french club Marseille.

  • 107 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    Sello – so you have no principle that you would fight for if you were in a good enough job. If thats the case, its quite sad. (no offence intended)

  • 108 richyg01 // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    Newcastle United Given Green Light to Bid for Marseille Striker Andre Pierre Gignac

  • 109 Macas // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    John Tudor – I really couldn’t care less anymore. You’re going to twist the facts no matter what I say. You know fine well why I started talking to you, end of story.

  • 110 toon kk // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    I don’t think MA has any intention of selling the club, it helps advertise his sports d business and he obviously gets a buzz out of getting one over on the fans. He’ll spend to keep us in the premier league no more.

  • 111 Mister Tuff // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    Getting back to Cisse.
    Can we be selective in cherrypicking bits from religious writing and ignoring others – well yes probably a lot of folk do it.
    Does it makes us hypocritical as a consequence – well I suppose it does to a degree.
    The reason I pose these questions is that previously it has been high lighted that Cisse is going against the Muslim faith in dating a non Muslim.
    I think I would be correct in saying that there is nothing in the Quran about Muslims marrying non Muslims. But where there is an issue is the fact that believers should not be dating or putting themselves in a position where “sins” out of wedlock are being committed -with anyone.
    So perhaps there is a bit of hypocrisy involved.

  • 112 expatmag // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:46 PM


    That would be Andre Pierre Cignac from Marseille and I don’t believe we are seriously in for him. Probably looking at Gomis from Lyon

  • 113 pawl250 // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    Macas –

    That is contradictory by stating “clogging up the board with your non football related posts”

    YOU are doing the same arguing with John, who by the way just enjoys winding people up, and your biting.

    Anyone got out interesting to say?

    Feel this blog is as depressing as sitting watching paint dry these days, nowt new to talk about, or if their is its bloody a farce from the club!


    Loved someone stating we need medals the size of frying pans for supporting them, made me smile for a millisecond at the though of us all walking around on match day with frying pans attached to our chest…..

  • 114 expatmag // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:48 PM


    So, what you are really saying is that he shouldn’t be shagging her then……lol

  • 115 luke.r // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Trying to get everyone back on football… What are your opinions on strikers at the moment then? As I see it bent would be a good experienced and hopefully cheap option with a great goal scoring record an would be good back up. As for remy, he looks a good player but there’s a real chance he could go to prison and that gignac has a bad goal scoring record and doesn’t even want to come to us! What do you guys think?

  • 116 pawl250 // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Gomis, Gignac, don’t want either in all honesty…..

    Would be nice to get someone worthy of talking about lol

    You hear what the PSG president said to Barcelona about Thiago Silva…. lol

    “If Barcelona meet the buy out clause of Thiago, PSG will meet the buy out clause of Lionel Messi”

    Must be nice having that much money 😉

  • 117 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    not peiter andrea fromajax

  • 118 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    get back in and i’m getting vilified for having a goat none of the senior executives of the TOON being at Motherwell.

    My point was and I never mentioned Kinnear is that it is out of common courtesy and politeness that if the home team puts on, keeps seats puts on refreshments, hospitality etc., then at least someone from the club’s top echelon’s should turn up!

    To me another PR Gaff.

    anyway watching Tour De France see the TOON ARMY is well represented on the slopes of Alpe d’Huez

  • 119 Macas // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    pawl250 – Don’t you understand sarcasm?

  • 120 headtheball // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    What about the tortoise and the lettuce leaf?

  • 121 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    no pawl read the blog he is winding me up two post ago from 21

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  • 123 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    Toonincheek – Its always the same argument. Its like a person cannot believe that one evil is worse than the other. Principle, belief or religion……it does not matter to me.

  • 124 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    picking on one out of the three is bullying in my book picking on the weak and invulnerable he should be ashamed

  • 125 richyg01 // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:52 PM


    Marseille are after Gomis, so I would not be suprised, if as a sweetner to the Gignac deal, we came in and said, give us him and your path is clear to Gomis.

  • 126 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    not bothered who we sign…we just need to get 1 world class (or as close as we can get to one) striker and a good young lad too.

  • 127 Macas // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    John Tudor – You’re the one who mentioned Kinnear, that’s why I was talking to you. But you’re not worth wasting energy on with all your nonsense about bullying, trying to get sympathy.

  • 128 2_goal_tino // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    @pawl 115

    Anzhi triggered Messi’s release clause in the winter. Casually made a 205 million pound bid with no fanfare and offered him something like 450k/wk.

  • 129 luke.r // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    What a beautiful stalemate by PSG lol. I’d hate to have gomis or gignac as well but I realycant think of anyone that we would go for at all!

  • 130 expatmag // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:55 PM


    If [people wind you up on here, just ignore them and carry on discussing other matters with other [people in a non argumentative manner.

    You will probably find you will get more respect and less bullshit if you conduct yourself in a more courteous and understanding manner without the constant demeaning one liners at people.

    Just a thought.

  • 131 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Is this Gignac fella any good, have not seen him play, stats are not great for an out and out striker – is that what he is?

  • 132 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:58 PM

  • 133 sello // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    Off key – I have lots of principles when it comes to my job, but the one cisse is using is hypocritical, he already wears a shirt that promotes a loan company in virgin. He has been seen in casinos and drinking in nightclubs. All of these go against his so called Muslim faith. I simply dont think he is worth the hassle, we could get good money for him and buy better players.

  • 134 Mister Tuff // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    expat – yes in effect yes. somebody mentioned earlier that there were degrees of sin – I do not known whether a persons “needs” can be put into a “lower” category of sin or not or even turned a blind eye to.
    Thought we might have had a bit of input from Muslim supporters who could clarify matters a bit better.

  • 135 expatmag // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:00 PM


    I seemed to remember he was Fulham bound a year or two ago but it fell through.

    I am not sure he is the kind of player we need and I think he has designs on bigger clubs than us which may not be warranted,.

  • 136 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    Gignac scoring record is average at best, he’s 27 so not one for the future either plus not wanting to come here should see us move on pretty quickly

  • 137 luke.r // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    im the same, not seen him play but they arn’t great stats at all. and i would have thought we needed a nippy striker who can play out wide, not a fella who can stick the ball in the net, we’ve got cisse for that. remy would be the perfect choice for that but hed be too much of a risk i think!

  • 138 expatmag // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:02 PM


    Having recently spent time in the UAE, I can tell you that they are super hot on anything outside marital relations and even then, walking down the street holding hands with your wife is frowned upon.

  • 139 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    Sello – I think thats fine mate – each to there own like, as long as you dont say he is 100% using fake beleifs to do the club over

  • 140 christoon5369 // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:04 PM


    whats the air like up on that high horse of yours?

    on a football related subject….no thanks to gignac, looks like a panic buy to me just to add numbers

  • 141 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    Cheers guys- guess he is not the world class striker we wanted.

  • 142 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:07 PM

    expat, if you took care in reading earlier vestiges of the blog there had been coherent well grammared exchanges till our friend directed a comment to me, but to no-one else involved.
    he then took it to the enth degree for tudor bashing whilst continually twisting it.
    it is all there to see and as our friend quite rightly puts it .i merely informed ed on the problems i am havin not naming him personally, but as to what i posted and to the replies received
    i am in no-way vindictive and can forgive owt i merely stated he was on a list to be avoided as he was not on a level playing field

  • 143 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:07 PM

    Remy would be the perfect signing for us but with the rape case hanging over him it would be a risk to take him.

    Gignac is average and has designs above his station whereasGomis is simply a French version of Kenwyne Jones.

    Kévin Gameiro would have been a great signing as would Wilfred Bony but one’s joined Swansea and the other looks to be off to Sevilla or Liverpool

    Darren Bent it is then 🙁

  • 144 DevonToon // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    Yea gignac is below average… Offkey if i had to liken him to a striker uv probly seen some of, Pavel Pogrebnyak but with a few more goals…

  • 145 expatmag // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:16 PM


    People are always going to disagree with other people on points of view on a blog.

    The trick to it all is not putting yourself over as being conceited and expect all and sundry to agree with you.

    Best practice, I have found, is to politely agree to disagree and then move on with the minimum of fuss and antagonism as well as a humorous inoffensive comment.

    You may find people will take to you better.

  • 146 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    REports have Man U offering 60 million for Bale!!!

  • 147 luke.r // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    I’ve not seen that Gameiro either but ive heard from friends that have watched him that hes average at best but surely he wants to move, hes got no chance of getting in the team with cavani coming in. would love to see De jong and Sinclaire brought in but that would be too good to be true. tiote out, sissoko take his place and play de jong behind the striker and that would do me!

  • 148 toon kk // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    I can see us being ripped apart again next season if we don’t strenthen, all it takes a few injuries to our first team player’s then we’re left with our championship quality players to try and cope. Every club strengthens in the summer to try and move forward, but MA doesn’t understand.

  • 149 Macas // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    christoon5369 – Can’t you take a joke?

  • 150 christoon5369 // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM


    i agree remy would be brilliant, the lad that signed for cardiff cornelius is good i heard we were in for him but cardiff beat us to him,

  • 151 expatmag // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    Sitting here watching the cricket in Oz. Looks like a [retty even game so far.

    Whats the betting on Bell getting another century for you poms?…….LOL

  • 152 richyg01 // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    Do you think someone like Stefan Kiessling would be out of our reach.

    According to Transfer Markt he is worth around £11.5M.

    He was ranked as the 6th best striker in the world last season, scoring 16 goals and providing six assists in his 24 Bundesliga appearances, and he was rated as the fourth-best player in Europe overall last season, and with more man-of-the-match awards than the likes of Ronaldo, Van Persie, Suarez and El Shaarawy.

  • 153 Novocastrian66 // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    Sage; Respect your views too. I don’t agree with Wonga’s chosen method of making money, yet I have a problem with all financial institutions. I think they’re all bandits, whether someone mugs someone for a penny or a pound they’re all thieves. The amount in my view is irelevant, the principle is the same.

  • 154 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    If we were to sign Remy, Sinclair and Bent I’d be happy, but got a feeling we’ll have Bent and no one else

  • 155 Novocastrian66 // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    expatmag; Are you an expat or an Aussie born descendant of an expat?

  • 156 expatmag // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:27 PM


    I am an expat from Low Fell and have been living in Oz since 1979.

  • 157 luke.r // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    I really cant see us only signing bent. We are in desperate need of 2 and that cant be ignored even if MA doesnt want to spend money. I would send cambell out on loan to the someone in the chapionship, make sure he gets games instead of coming on every so often. hes so young and hell get his chance with us in the future so let him go score goals week in week out and later on he will get a real chance at the number 9 shirt.

  • 158 christoon5369 // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:29 PM


    yes – but i dont find bullies funny


    lad from norway plays for hannover abdellaoue knows where the net is him instead/with remy and sinclair would be good still think we need a right winger though

  • 159 Macas // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    christoon5369 – Neither do I, which is why I think had the right to be annoyed at being called one.

  • 160 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:32 PM


    Yeah mate Remy and Sinclair plus a young striker, someone more established than Campbell would be perfect as we could then allow Campbell to go out on loan to the Championship for the season to allow him to get the playing time he needs to develop

  • 161 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:35 PM

    If Higuain ends up at Chelsea why not try and get Ba back as we are quickly running out of options here

  • 162 toon kk // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:35 PM

    It’s strange how smaller clubs than Newcastle has more money available and much more ambition.

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  • 164 Mister Tuff // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    novo – what expat really should have said was that he was a pom and not a proper Aussie.

  • 165 Levi // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    Ba is a muslim so not sure he would be up for a move to a team that has so much drama surrounding its sponser

  • 166 Mister Tuff // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    novo – I think we can rightly assume that expat does not own a corked bush hat, he does not wear safari type gear like Steve Irwin did and he does not hunt crocs.

  • 167 christoon5369 // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:41 PM


    spot on hes not going to develop sitting on the bench and playing for the reserves, not sure how old shane long is but id be looking closely at him,

  • 168 Novocastrian66 // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    expat; whereabouts in Oz do you live now?

  • 169 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 3:43 PM


    Shane Long is an excellent shout, he’s still only 26, but West Brom would be unwilling to let him leave as they only have two strikers themselves………………unless Ashley were to offer over the odds for him ?????

  • 170 foggonridiculous // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    expat mag

    loved the comment about a medal the size of a frying pan…

    Couple of questions:

    1) Where can I get one?
    2) Is it ok to use it to cover up the wonga logo?


  • 171 Ian Toon // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    Mr Tuff @ 111.

    I agree. It is always helpful if you know what your talking about!

  • 172 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    Good post and thank you it’s what I posted earlier that he did eventually wear the shirt

    Obviously the best scenario is for all parties come to an agreement how ever there is a key sentence
    “The sponsor, also agreed to excuse him from their publicity campaigns in return for Kanouté wearing the sponsored kit on match days, which was part of the players’ contractual duties.”

    The players have a contractual duty, a contract they are more than happy to sign when they see all those zeros at the end of there salary
    Like it not cisse refusing to wear the shirt is in breach of his contract and the club are unfortunately entitled to punish how they see fit

    Seeing as this deal was announced in October though I still maintain he’s seen a way to get a transfer easily knowing without the dispute MA could price him out of any potential move, or leverage for a new contract

    Either way given the length of time it has taken cisse to take a stand, neither him, the club or the sponsor are showing themselves in a good light imo

  • 173 christoon5369 // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:10 PM


    maybe a player plus cash to sweeten the deal…not sure theyd be interested though,

  • 174 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:11 PM


    For all we know Cisse spoke up as soon as the Wonga deal was announced?

  • 175 christoon5369 // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    sorry meant to say jack, daft samsung

  • 176 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM


    Shola and Obertan plus 5 million???

  • 177 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    Would hate to see gignac bought in, poor striker injury prone and struggles with his weight!!!!

  • 178 richyg01 // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    Peter Odemwingie for £1 – £2M ??

  • 179 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    Then the club just ignored him for 9 months?
    Find that very very very hard to believe
    Also hard to believe that absolutely no compromise could be reached over such a long period of time

  • 180 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:18 PM


    Just playing devils advocate, its strange that Cisse is reported to be refusing to wear the shirt but the rest of our Muslim players seem to have no issue with it!!!

    But as always everything is played out in the press where it’s twisted to the extreme

  • 181 christoon5369 // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:19 PM


    if carlsberg did transfer deals….

    yes would love that, maybe throw JFK in the deal aswell,

  • 182 wolfshead@toon // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    wtf is that war ad u cant even mute it ffs

  • 183 fatman // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    i cant wait till his profile is 6ft lower than it is now, fat cockney pikey.

  • 184 colwell // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    Get French Football ?@GFN_France 5m
    Jean Michel Aulas has confirmed our reports that Lyon are talking to Newcastle and Aston Villa for Bafetimbi Gomis. #OL #AVFC #NUFC

  • 185 Szarka // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    Benteke isnt an option? Or maybe Lukaku on loan?

  • 186 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    wtf is that red diesel ad
    and can you drink it?

  • 187 Spoof // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:34 PM


    click on to whichever is suitable, it work’s a treat.

  • 188 plana // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    The Marseille, supporters are hoping we sign Gignac, as they reckon he is a carthorse. So we hope this rumour doesn’t happen.

  • 189 wolfshead@toon // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:37 PM


    cheers mate i got the one for my ff works a treat thx 🙂

  • 190 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    Spot the jouro’s twisting of the truth

  • 191 wolfshead@toon // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:40 PM


    red diesel is what truckers and farmers use in the vehicles give it a slurp u might get a buzz off it lol

  • 192 Munster Mag // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Jack, some Christinas probably didn’t think we should slaughter Muslims either in the crusades but hey ho. I cant imagine Ba would be happy. I’m sure we could have got a better sponsor than Wonga. I don’t hear too many Happy Clappies on here recently. Where is Ibiza and Billson and co. At least they can argue a bit ( although Ibiza is a self confessed fence sitter ) but they are not as stupidly deluded as some.

  • 193 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    i thought it was larger an cider with a touch of black currant
    but in that quantity you’d get more than a buzz

  • 194 carl nufc // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    if Cisse has a problem now with Wonga how come when he was at Freiburg he had no problem with there logo Ehrmanns a massive wine supplier ??
    its stinks and its all about money, get rid asap as allll these African players are only interested in 1 thing ££££££

  • 195 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    Munster Mag // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Jack, some Christinas probably didn’t think we should slaughter Muslims either in the crusades but hey ho. I cant imagine Ba would be happy. I’m sure we could have got a better sponsor than Wonga

    Completely lost me with the whole Crusades bit tbh

  • 196 Jay K // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    Areet lads

    Just watching the toon vrs soton on sky cisse goal wow we need 2 sort this out even if we do sign a replacement there’s no way cashley will spend an amount that’s gd enough to replace him with that quality would just be a cheap option.

  • 197 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Munster- how dare you, if one member of a religious group believes something they all do 😉

    jokes aside, i dont mind those being suspicious or thinking its hypocritical, but thinking everything is so black and white is a bit of a farce.

  • 198 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    Iantoon – your getting better at this multiple account thing……taking opposite views in each

  • 199 toon kk // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    If ANY player wants to play in ENGLAND they should get on with it, if not they should stop in there own country’s if they want to practice their own beliefs. (Very petty behaviour by cisse).

  • 200 Charlietoon // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    Some good news on the striker front perhaps??

    #OL president Jean-Michel Aulas confirms on twitter that #AVFC and #NUFC are in talks with the Lyon over Bafetimbi Gomis.

  • 201 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:52 PM


    Why bother with Gomis, he just a French speaking version of Kenwyne Jones = Big, Strong and completely useless

  • 202 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    toon kk – you are an idiot

  • 203 kevymartins // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    @Carl Really? He gives half of his money away and he wouldn’t even be the highest paid player at the club you fool, wonga are acting like right cunts in starting all this, just give him a shirt with a charity logo and get it over with. It’s like asking a celtic player (catholic) to wear a protestant sponser it’s a disgrace. And wtf you on about ship him back to africa? Why so we can pay 35million for some english bag of sh!t,

  • 204 kevymartins // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    Btw were in talks for gomis.

  • 205 Spoof // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    Are there any genuine links to Gomis or is it just more idle chatter.

  • 206 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    Bafetimbi Gomis

    316 games – 103 goals

    In an inferior league, not good stats really

  • 207 Mister Tuff // Jul 18, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    eRMMM — what the hell have the Crusades got to do with the Cisse situation. Can somebody enlighten me please.

  • 208 plana // Jul 18, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    Gomis is our number one target.

  • 209 kevymartins // Jul 18, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    @Carl your a right w@nker

  • 210 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    Tuff – Crusades were Christians fighting against Muslims. Do you think all Christians beleived that was right or do you think some may not have agreed. Compare that to tiote and co willing to wear wonga and Cisse not wanting to, just because they are the same religion doesnt mean they all think the same things are ok.

  • 211 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    Kevy – isnt carl actually Ian toon?

  • 212 toon kk // Jul 18, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    Offkey…..are you an idiot???? There’s alot of things I don’t want to do and believe in, in life but I just have to get on with it.

  • 213 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    toon kk – the first post on the next thread includes you, bigot

  • 214 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    Ian toon – apologies if my comment at 210 is incorrect wouldn’t want to accuse you of saying that.

  • 215 potski // Jul 18, 2013 at 5:16 PM


    I think JackButler is probably right. There have been stories circulating about the issue since the Wonga deal was signed, Ed reported on it last October:

    But since none of the parties involved have ever publicly commented about it, the prevailing view on this blog seems to have been that this was a made-up story, until Cisse didn’t get on the plane this week.

    What’s interesting is the quote from a Muslim leader, which probably explains the difference in views amongst the Muslim players:

    “We have the rulings of the religious law and we have the individual’s choice and decision on how they want to follow or not follow that rule.”

  • 216 pyunky // Jul 18, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    Re: the Gomis links. I have an open question, is the young lad Mirin any good? Because he was one I saw Gomis tear apart last year. Gomis would be a good addition, IMHO

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