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Mike Ashley Continues To Make Poor Decisions at Newcastle

9:49 am, Thursday, July 18th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 135 Comments

When you are a business and you keep making poor or dubious decisions, it keeps coming back to bite you, and there’s a case to be made that’s exactly what’s happened at Newcastle United, since Mike Ashley bought the club six years ago.

mike ashley smiling

Mike Ashley - has made some poor decisions on Tyneside

The latest Wonga problem with Papiss Cisse is just one of the self-inflicted problems at Newcastle, during Mike Ashley’s reign on Tyneside.

Here are just a few of the others:

  • Ashley sided with cockney Derek Wise when the then Director of Football brought in two players without Kevin Keegan’s knowledge or approval, and that led to Keen’s resignation from the club, and that eventually led to Newcastle’s relegation in May, 2009
  • Chris Hughton did brilliantly to pull Newcastle off the floor and get us promoted in 2010 from the Championship at the first attempt, and Chris was an excellent front man and gentleman for Newcastle. But that didn’t stop Ashley from sacking Hughton during his first bad spell in the Premier League, when we gained only 2 points from five league games
  • Ashley decided to rename St. James’ Park as the Sports Direct Arena, and everywhere you looked you saw the hideous Sports Direct signs, and then the club had the audacity to have workmen rip down the St. James’ Park signs
  • Ashley appointed Joe Kinnear as the Director of Football in June of this year, and that has caused disruption at Newcastle, and had Derek LLambias resign in protest from the club. Joe is a bit like a loose cannon,  and managed to bring some terrible publicity to himself and to Newcastle United by giving that ridiculous interview to talkSPORT, before he had even been announced in his new position

The Wonga deal brought us some bad publicity when it was announced, and that has continued with Papiss Cisse refusing to wear the Wonga logo – and that could end up (in the very worst case) by Newcastle having to sell a player, who is currently our very best striker.

It seems Newcastle were swayed by the big money Wonga were willing to pay Newcastle, reported to be £24M over four years.

But that’s only because a company like Wonga with a very poor name in the UK has to pay out big money to have a club wear the Wonga insignia, because in truth, the company is despised by many,  because of the high interest rates they charge to poor people.

We have to hope there is some way out of this Wonga – Cisse impasse, and that Newcastle will also pay out the money to being in two or three good players this summer.

Things could then look a lot better than they do at the moment.

Here’s hoping.

What do you think?

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135 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    jfk

    never expected him to be a world beater at all, never mind in a relegation battle

    i just think from what i’ve seen he has a few mistakes in him and is a bit casual.

    hopefully this is the language barrier at first and the new league. but i am yet to be convinced. I am happy being patient though, it is difficult moving at that age.

  • 2 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 9:53 AM

    24mil over years is not big money…its 6 a year and pathetic

    http://www.givemesport.com/191438-top-10-shirt-sponsorship-deals

    we apparently got 10mil a year of virgin money. sunderland got double that.

  • 3 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 9:54 AM

    When will it ever end!!!

    Want to get back to talking about and being excited about football, sick of my club being a bloody soap opera. Ashley is a self made billionaire but is running this club like a market stall

  • 4 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 18, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    Have you seen what some tool has wrote on NUFC MAD.

    Im sure this is having a go at Eds article last night in regards to Cisse maybe being forced out by Wonga.

    Check out this numptys article.

    http://m.newcastleunited-mad.co.uk/news/800268

  • 5 jeff // Jul 18, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    jeffpatel2000@gmail.com

    password: leecattermole

  • 6 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 18, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    Toonarmydownsouth
    0 mins ago
    Yo
    Lol!

    Sage
    Mbiwa came during one of the most unstable periods during recent times and was thrown into a patch work defence pairing the error prone Taylor who is almost as unfamiliar with the offside rule as cisse
    A full pre season under his belt and were looking at potentially the best CB pairing we’ve had for years with him n colo

    Arroeben
    Don’t kid yourself mate were not regulars in anything, what other reasons would players sign for us atm?
    Until the club progresses this will be the case with most players

  • 7 JFK junior // Jul 18, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    TS – I just know what people have said on here who have actually watched mbiwa first hand. They (Torq / niafron) were so excited by his signing, and spoke so highly of him, that I know what we saw last season wasn’t true reflection.

  • 8 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    jb like a cockney barra boy

  • 9 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 9:59 AM

    jack

    exactly…he cant run it like sports direct.

    buy a once big brand for a low fee then sell the products (at reduced quality) for a low fee as people buy as its cheap for the brand.

    in football players usually come at a fair value. Only way to make money is sign a lot of young players and hope (through good scouting then coaching) they develop to be worth much more.

  • 10 G // Jul 18, 2013 at 9:59 AM

    jeff, I sincerely hope that isn’t your logon details you have just posted up there mate?

  • 11 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:00 AM

    Jack Butler
    He’s not self made mate, he’s a failed professional squash player who moved into coaching before he decided to buy a couple of sports stores, he was then backed massively by a third party
    This is his only business venture he’s undertaken solo and the blokes not got a clue what he’s doing

  • 12 Bring Back Laurent Robert // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:00 AM

    Mbiwa against Arsenal put in the best performance by a fullback at our club in aeons, it’s not even his natural position – tells me enough about him.

  • 13 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:00 AM

    did it pass

  • 14 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    jfk

    I have seen all the people excited too, its just plenty come from other league where they are great or have potential and flop in england, he wouldn’t be the first.

    Happy to give the lad time though, can’t judge him too soon. That was just my initial impression of what I say.

  • 15 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    JT
    No mate but didn’t fail as badly as I thought it would!
    Brakes some how passed just needed a new tyre and a connector replacing under the seat (something to do with the airbags??)

  • 16 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    Laurent Robert

    He did do very well at left back. But errors get punished less at full back as oppose to CB.

    He may well be a very good player for us, it wouldn’t shock me. I just think its too early to say he will definitely be a star player.

  • 17 Mr Funk // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    @ TADS

    Interesting about Ashley – can you point to an article about this major backer Ashley got because i have never seen it mentioned anywhere else before.

  • 18 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    that ain’t so bad hip hip for the testers

  • 19 Ben3arfa // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:05 AM

    Bills is still on Ashley’s nuts after reading this article?

  • 20 JFK junior // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:05 AM

    TS – Fair enough mate.

    I have a very good feeling about this season. We have the fitness side of the club being sorted, we have an excellent squad (although 2-3more would make us better) and if what has been reported it true, our tactics have been updated via consultants, so we can move on from the dated football of last season.

  • 21 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    BBLR
    He also played a blinder against arsenal for Montpellier as a CDM in the CL

  • 22 Average_Contents // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    Hey guys good morning! a nice feel on the blog as usual I see! ;)

    Just seen this slating our esteemed leader ed! are they serious! its a bit harsh like me thinks although compared to some of the things said on this blog its like a love letter from one blogger to another!………………….. Torq get ur ass back on here bud n ignore them we know your not gospel and don’t hold your information as such, its just snippets of info from work/friends so keep it coming brother! toondanno just a quick question bud! Could you possibly be any more vague or are you JFK in disguise? ;)

    Said my piece so bye bye for now champs

    http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/656915583?-11058:809

  • 23 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    Mr.Funk
    Obviously it’s not gospel like just on his wiki

  • 24 Average_Contents // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/656915583?-11058:809

  • 25 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    tads

    Not gonna get caught up in semantics as anyway we look at it he’s running us with every decision seemingly made off the cuff, for every good decision he makes he make’s two or three that make absolutely no sense to anyone

  • 26 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    Don’t think I have ever been so despondent hacked not looking forward to the start of the season with the Toon.

    One calamity after another:
    bringing in dementia suffering Joking Kinnear, No transfer Policy and Bongo Bank and Cisse

    Message to TOP CAT – I have stuck by you but my patience is getting thin – GET IT SORTED – we are the laughing stock of the world of football and I like a lot of other fans are worried about the coming season

  • 27 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    Prodigy

    I think it does refer to Eds site. If whoever ran that site did their research on Ed they could see all the info which shows he is a true fan.

    They simply cannot understand a well written piece. Wonga might be forcing cisse out, if they threaten to cut the deal and sue as a player won’t wear the shirt it does leave the club and cisse in a difficult place.

    Obviously not confirmed story but it is plausible and ed merely asked the question.

    Wonga aren’t saying to sell cisse but they may threaten legal action if he plays without the logo so in effect they are forcing him out, all speculation of course.

  • 28 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    Seems someone over at NUFC MAD is a little jelous bless them haha.

  • 29 christoon5369 // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    what do you call a chicken with lettuce in its eye?

  • 30 nico // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    I heard someone say Cisse is quitting the Toon to start a new career in Zebra farming
    Here’s the proof

    seanmotry@hotmail.co.uk

    Password jefuranidiot

  • 31 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    Transfer,

    I know mate. They havn’t even got the title correct. Ed wrote “are Wonga forcing Cisse out”. He didn’t say Wonga are forcing him out.

  • 32 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    JFK

    I’m happy out squad is a top ten team. I think a very good striker and left sided player could see us push top 7/8.

    That’s fine with me, I don’t expect champs league as there are a lot of teams who expect it too.

    I still think we lack a player or two who is a true leader and can unite the side when we are struggling, like Nolan did.

  • 33 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:12 AM

    Prodigy

    Must be because this yank site gets a few more views than theirs haha

  • 34 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    Prodigy
    Jealous and don’t have the bottle to name themselves or have a comments section!!

  • 35 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:14 AM

    On a serous note the cisse issue needs resolving. If neither him not wonga will budge (and there is nothing in the wonga contract to say cisse can wear a plain shirt) then he needs to be sold and replaced very quickly.

    Dragging this out will not help.

  • 36 jeff // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:14 AM

    nico, the pass didnt work.typey maybe?

  • 37 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:14 AM

    What self respecting toon fan has lee clattermole as a password!

  • 38 Mr Funk // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:15 AM

    @ TADS

    So that is just speculation like wiki

  • 39 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    t.s
    sold yes but replaced quickly
    you are having a laugh.
    this lot have spent ages replacing ba

  • 40 nico // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    Jef. I feel sorry for poor Claire (receptionist). You’ve probably got her into deep water

  • 41 Mr Funk // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM

    @ TADS

    Also why would MA be a majority stake holder if he was backed by a third party, surely the third party would be the majority share holder (if they provided all the financial backing)?

  • 42 Toon_Tom // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM

    pw = leecattermole

    says it all really

    BUSTED

  • 43 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM

    John

    I know it wouldn’t happen just that’s what they should do.

    They will sell him and sign a replacement for Ba and get cisse’s replace my over the line in 2015

  • 44 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM

    Mr.Funk
    Maybe, I doubt it tbh can’t see why they would bother
    doesn’t detract from the fact the blokes out of his depth and trashing the club

  • 45 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    Who ever it is, he is not portraying the ways of a true Geordie himself.

    Child like and cowardly.

    Thick as pigs sh*te like haha.

    Bedtime for me, later folks.

  • 46 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    T.S
    you are right
    no name on the back is bigger than the badge on the front

  • 47 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    Funk
    Not if it was a private loan to get him started he still backed, still advised
    At NUFC theres nobody helping him and he’s made a right f**k up of it

  • 48 JFK junior // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    Average – I can’t blame torq for doing one…

    He got so much unnecessary grief on here from certain individuals. He got blamed for JFK an his appointment, blamed for PEA having the nerve to sign for one of the best teams in the world, even got blamed for Remy when he didn’t even comment on it. People say they want info, but very few acknowledge when he is right, yet strive to put him down at every opportunity.

    I hope he comes back, but I very much doubt it. I wouldn’t subject myself to that bullsh1t!

  • 49 shear-class // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    How can a muslim corner shop sell scratch cards if they are not to gamble or encourage it it sounds like double standards.does that include the ones i saw in the casino last night getting hammered on bacardi breezers cisse needs to scrap his petty argument and play football he still has a lot to prove it sounds like an excuse to move on if you ask me

  • 50 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    tads

    With the cash cow kicking into high gear now the reality is that we are gonna be stuck with him for a very long time

  • 51 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    hi torq nice to see you back pal

  • 52 JFK junior // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    Jeff – That’s actually quite funny.

    I really hope nobody is actually trying to log in with those details.

    Clearly a wind up…!

  • 53 Transfer Sage // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    shear-class

    purely depends on how strictly people stick to their faith really.

    I admire cisse for standing up. i’m not religious but don’t like wonga and wont buy merchandise, shirts or tickets until it is gone.

  • 54 steinhof // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:26 AM

    Anyone know what would happen if the government ban pay day loan companies from advertising? Wishful thinking maybe but it could well happen.

  • 55 JFK junior // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    John Tudor aka the truth will out –

    Nice try to fool. You are the one with the multiple user id’s! You can force some people off here, but not me.

    I have no problem telling you exactly what I think of you. If only more had the guts too!

  • 56 steinhof // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Shear-class – how do you know “the ones” you saw drinking breezers last night were muslim?

  • 57 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    steinhof

    If it were to happen then there would be a date set when the law would come into force and clubs like us would then have to pay back the relevant amount of money from the remaining amount of time left on the contract

  • 58 Jail for Ashley // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    JFK,
    Not being funny mate but Torq is a big boy, if you have read the blog over the years myself and Bills have recieved more abuse in a morning session than Torq has recieved in his year of posting on here. I’m sure he’ll recover

  • 59 Blaydon-Toon // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    Not posted for a while so hello Toonies ! See the constant bickering and wonder wy some people bother ….. Still no transfer news to report on which is a massive disappointment ! I know we spent in Jan but where is our new centre forward ?

  • 60 JFK junior // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    Jail for Ashley – what did you do to get that abuse? Did you dish it out as well as receive it?

  • 61 Mr Funk // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    @ TADS

    Personally, I think MA thought buying a football club would be a laugh and another way of promoting his main brand – Sports Direct

    He may have not realised how much effort and money goes into a football club and you are not going to get a big return.
    MA definitely does not want to spend any more of his money on NUFC and it will have to be self sufficient.

  • 62 foggonridiculous // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    with due respect to the originator of these types of posts:

    Having wonga tattoo-ed on his foreskin with a non-sterile needle is too good for ashley….

  • 63 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    Blaydon-Toon

    Some reports saying that we will have our first signing done by the weekend and it’s being reported that it will be Darren Bent

  • 64 Blaydon-Toon // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Ps I hope it’s not Bent unless its for under 4 million ! I would take Remy tho but who else is in the pipeline ?

  • 65 lesh // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    the problems we’ve experienced under Ashley could be down to the fact that while he knows the retail sports business and Sports Direct’s making profits, he didn’t and doesn’t understand the football business.

    He’ll be surrounded by people who know Sports Direct’s marketplace and he trusts their advice. What’s he had at Newcastle United to advise him? Amateurs and friends who have had little or no expertise! Hence, we just seem to blunder from one crisis to the next.

    Mike, please get some expert help by your side, please.

  • 66 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Transfer Sage
    If it is true that Wonka Bank are going to sue Cisse for not wearing their shirt then it isa SAD SAD SAD day for football and Newcastle United/DisUnited.

    Cisse signed to play for NEWCASTLE UNITED not to wear Wonka Bank merchandising.

    Pisses me of the whole sordid Wonka deal.

  • 67 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    Jail for Ashley – You getting abuse? Surely not ;)

  • 68 steinhof // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    JackButler – seems like the only way out of this frankly stupid sponsorship deal. I disagree with Ed when he says Wonga have to pay a lot more money because of their poor reputation, a charity foundation ran by a hybrid of Nelson Mandela, Mother Teresa and Ghandi could have offered a quid less and this lot would still have taken the Wonga money and claimed we needed the extra £1 and that its all going into the running of the club!

  • 69 geordiemark // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    the sooner our club is taken over by someone with ambition the better because ashley has no ambition bar to take money out of the club thats it, profit profit profit

  • 70 sidecutter // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    Morning lads ,I’m new on this site,so here goes,I think we have a very good squad! yes there are areas where we need new blood,but even Barcelona change things continually,but assuming we have a great season and qualify for Europe,would we find ourselves back in the mire?? Could we leave a squad to gel over 2/3 seasons and hopefully get the best out of them?

  • 71 Jail for Ashley // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    JFKj
    I have been known to give a bit of verbal but mostly on thev receiving end due to my staunch anti Ashley views.

  • 72 Mr Funk // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    I wish people stop saying ambition and just be up front and say that want an owner to spend money and lots of it!

  • 73 JFK junior // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    How much is Remys release clause? Does anybody know?

  • 74 Blaydon-Toon // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    I know we can not attract the Stella signings of the past but surely we should be setting our sights higher than an ex scum half past it poacher who has lost his main asset SPEED which is what we require ! Not sure Victor Mosses will get much of a look in at Chelsea and I think he would be perfect for us – said before Chelsea were in for him

  • 75 magicbus // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    Mike Ashley = NO AMBITION to take the club forward. He will only spend ( as we saw in January ) if he feels we are in definite danger of going back down to the Championship and so losing Premiership finance.

  • 76 geordiemark // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    Jail for Ashley

    ive never trusted ashley since day 1 the sooner he goes the better for the toon

  • 77 peasngravy // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    We want Torqqqqqqqqqqq,
    We want Torqqqqqqqqqqq,
    We want Torqqqqqqqqqqq,

    Come back Torq, don’t let a couple of muppets put you off, there well in the minority

  • 78 jeraziah // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    Reports in L’Equipe claim that Newcastle could be tempted to look at the Ligue 1 market again in their search for a new striker. The Magpies are said to be looking at Marseille frontman Andre-Pierre Gignac.
    by Chris Burton 10:42 AM (SkySports)

  • 79 Blaydon-Toon // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    Clint Dempsey anyone ?

  • 80 hadthetshirt // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    @48 I think Torq suffered because of all the supposed ITK’s people seem to hang on every word they say,hoping beyond hope that we get some top striker.One guy said he knew Bobby Moncur and Bob told him this and that.I am not in the know but have worked with Bobby.He is the Patron to a charity I did some work for.I have sat with him a couple of times and he is as much a supporter as I am.He hasn’t got inside info,just ideas and views.I was working and tried to be professional so only chatted to him about his hobby sailing.I did hear him being asked loads of questions and to be fair he was brilliant replying.At no time did he say he knew this or that about about any player.Torq seemed a genuine guy but because of other wannabe ITK’s has maybe suffered for it.Some on here just crave for attention,it makes them seem important for their 5 minutes of fame.Jeff you have had yours :). As for the Cisse thing surely the club should honour his beliefs.Didn’t we build a place they could pray in.All this would need is common sense to be resolved.Instead were the laughing stock again.

  • 81 geordiemark // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    Mr Funk

    all I want is for an owner to buy decent quality signings that doesnt cost the world, ashley only spends money when were near relegation thats when the purse strings are opened, if the man had any sence on buying good quality players before the bottom 6 come our way then it would be good but the man never does

  • 82 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    steinhof

    It’s sad that because of the economic crisis the world is dealing with there is a place for firms like Wonga but because of that crisis when everyone is struggling for money it makes firm’s like Wonga who charge extortionate interest rates even more sickening and having footballing multi millionaire’s parading with their name on the shirt is simply wrong imo

  • 83 Blaydon-Toon // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    If Cabaye is sold would like us to go for Mcarthy from Wigan and move Marv into the playmaker role ?

  • 84 geordiemark // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Blaydon-Toon

    cabaye,krul,cissie will be sold its just a matter of time

  • 85 rainrix // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    So im guessing cisse wont be making a guest appearance on the wonga ads anytime soon then?

  • 86 JFK junior // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    Blaydon

    I would like a player plus cash deal for Cabaye if he were to be sold.

    Jail for aAshley

    I dont think that is right either. Everybody is entitled to their opinions as long as its backed up and put across intelligently. So for you to get grief is out of hand, but fair play to you for giving back. Some on here are scared to get another bloggers back up.

  • 87 shear-class // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    steinhof- are Pakistanis not muslim?

  • 88 Blaydon-Toon // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    JFK who would you take part ex ?

  • 89 rossi // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    cisse cost us points last season . how many goals lost because he drifted off side far to many get rid

  • 90 JFK junior // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    €35mil for that marquinhos (sp) chap!

    Wow.

  • 91 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    Can anyone explain why it’s only Cisse who is reportedly refusing to wear the wonga shift???

    We have more than a few Muslims at the club and I can’t get my head around how only one of them can say it’s against his religious belief’s???

    Could it be that there is more to it than what we are being told or that the media are whipping up a strom over nothing in the hope of selling more of their grubby little papers

  • 92 Blaydon-Toon // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Well Geordiemark if the gooners want Krul they would have to at least double the Measly 7 million and its going to take 20+ to get Cabs and at least 17million for Pappis so at least 60 million in ! We could do a serious overhaul if that money was reinvested – the sad truth is we knows only a fraction would be spent on replacements

  • 93 JFK junior // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Blaydon

    Depends on where he goes.

    Psg – sahko or menez or gamiero

    Man Utd – Hernandez

  • 94 steinhof // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Jack Butler

    True, although I don’t credit most footballers with enough awareness to realise it’s an issue. I can’t see the Government banning advertising these companies, after all they do like it when other institutions joining in with their plan to keep the poor under the cosh.

  • 95 plana // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Who can blame any of the january recruits, Pardew, the imbecile played Mapou, as a holding midfielder then at right back. Sissoko, was played as the new Demba Ba and Gouffran who is a striker is thrown out on the left wing alongside Cisse on the right wing.

  • 96 Blaydon-Toon // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    JFK would take them all but not sure those clubs or the players would let them come !

  • 97 Rotonda heights // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    I wonder if there has ever been such a classless and tacky regime as ashley and his cronies.

    It all seems to be imploding and if Llambias is to blame for Wonga, 8 year deals, a crap manager and missed signings, Ash should have ditched him far sooner rather than fiddle while it was all going on around him.

    If Cisse forces Wonga to withdraw their sponsorship and gives us back a bit of credibility then good on him.

  • 98 one Tony Green // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    When did we all get so worried about religion.

    Cisse gambles in Aspers and his girl friend who he lives with is a none believer. You either follow your religion or you don’t.

    Cisse wants out Anzi want to double his wages just man and say that I would have more respect. Ashley and Wonga are easy targets but if you are thick enough to use wonga then that is your problem. ( before any bleeding hearts start you need to be employed to get a wonga loan).

    Having supported The Toon over 40 years I really wish we could go back to the leazers end days. St James’s is a library now no heart and soul.

    I hate Ashley but not as much as some of the armchair plastic fans who bump their gums but never actually watch the team they claim to support.

  • 99 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    rossi

    Saying we should get rid of Cisse because he cost us goals as he was offside is kinda funny when the entire side was poor from back to front. If our final pass had been quicker and had more quality to it then maybe it wouldn’t have been an issue.

    If we were to get rid of every player who failed to live up to expectations last season we’d be left with a four man squad

  • 100 geordiemark // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    Blaydon-Toon

    yep but the money end up where andy carroll money has gone :)

  • 101 steinhof // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    Shear-class – No, my mate Madeimup comes from Pakistan and he doesn’t believe in god.

  • 102 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    Steinhof
    No way this Government would ban Wonka Bank as they donate to the Tory Party through their MD

  • 103 Sav // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    Mashley’s profits are up so much recently I doubt he gives a hoot about Cisse’s scruples right now. For him to be described as’ a failed sqiuash player who bought a couple of sports stores’ is laughable – and if he read it, he WOULD be laughing. We may not like him but he’s here to stay – for now.

  • 104 geordiemark // Jul 18, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    JackButler

    if only the manager would have been replaced id have more faith until he goes ive got none

  • 105 geordiemark // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    Charlie in the Gallowgate

    I wondered why they werent banned wonga now they give to the tory party brilliant trust a politician ha aye reet all currupt to hell and back every last one of them

  • 106 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    geordiemark

    Nothing is gonna change so we have to try to glean any positive we can

  • 107 geordiemark // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    JackButler

    thats true, I wonder what will happen when things turn sour when the teams playing crap and then the fans turn on ashley,kinnear and pardew or do they have the balls just to ignore 52,000 crazy geordies going off the heads it will come to it its just a matter of time

  • 108 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Steinhof geordiemark
    Tories and Wonga: Adrian Beecroft was asked to write a report on unions and workers rights etc.,

    Google Tories and Wonga – makes interesting reading.

    Bas***ds the lot of them!!!!!

    Venture capitalist Beecroft, who has donated £593,000 to the Conservatives since Cameron became Tory leader in 2005, said
    companies should be allowed to sack ‘unproductive workers’ at will.

  • 109 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    geordiemark

    After the City game we have a run of games that we should win and if we do get off to a bad start then things will turn ugly really fast

  • 110 Slank // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    Anybody reading this and other Newcastle blogs would think that it is only Newcastle that is making headlines and the fans are up in arms. ManU are possibly going to lose their talisman Rooney, Liverpool also with Suarez, Spurs with Bale.

  • 111 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    jfk jr give it a rest man who cares what you think you think im the bullies think again look at your posts

  • 112 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    big boys stand up for themselves i have no doubt torq is on here.he is too much of an ITK guy not to be now put ut or shut up

  • 113 rossi // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    jack butler cisse is the topic at the moment to many players failed in their job last season and most can go as well why do we always make stars out of average players no wonder we win nowt

  • 114 HullMag6 // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    I think wonga is an excuse and Cisse/agents/press are making the most of it. If that phone call is for real Cisse has turned prima donna not wanting competition etc or a bigger contract.

    The clamour over wonga is down to society not the company they exploited a gap on the market a high risk gap hence the high interest as insurance. Too many people still trying to live now pay later – thanks to the so called more respectable bankers and their cavalier casino investment culture that is why its no longer a viable way to live.

    I get a bad taste in my mouth when someone spouts about financial ethics when they are paid more than someone’s annual salary per week. That someone may sacrifice alot just to cheer their team on when Saturday comes.

    If it drags on sell Cisse, from a business view he’ll become a toxic asset if he stays. Ashley only knows business. Expect a new strike force by September 1st I guess. (Gouffran, Campbell, +2 or 3 depending on Shola)

  • 115 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    Slank

    If those other clubs do lose those players you can bet your life their will sign their replacements BEFORE they are sold…………….we are the only club that likes to wait six months before replacing anyone

  • 116 Ben3arfa // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    Mackems are laughing at us on twitter .

    Thank you Mike Ashley , you have well and truly transformed us into a joke of a club .

  • 117 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    Another former target on the move

    http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/psg-receive-proposition-from-sevilla-for-gameiro/

  • 118 kev // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    What level of interest does Cisse think Wonga should apply as opposed to Virgin? Where in the Quran does it mention an acceptable rate?
    What next, refuse to play at St James’ as they sell alcohol which is also against strict Muslim beliefs?

    Get rid of Cisse and move on…

  • 119 viv // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    I hope we are not in for another season of Pardew cock-ups. Players played out of position, players who are struggling for form played instead of players who are in form.

  • 120 JFK junior // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    John Tudor

    You kicked this off. Not me. Don’t play the victim when I react. Just Ignore anything you dint want to read. No skin off my nose.

  • 121 JP...from The Rock // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    I never thought Cisse was a fanatic of his Religion. Fanatics are always problematic and always want people to change things to their benefit! This could be a real problem if true.

  • 122 stan anderson // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Why should any class players want to come to our club,if we show no ambition to win anything.Unless we paid a fortune in wages(we wont)any player is going to sign for the top 6 clubs in the league and we know who they are most years.It happened to be a mistake when we finished in a Europa qualifying position and we certainly made sure it was not going to happen again.No ambition equals no hope tosign the players our fans should be watching week in week out,under good management and coaches.

  • 123 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/marseille-offer-apg-to-newcastle/#.UeetBw8Y-7I.twitter

  • 124 HullMag6 // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    Ben worry about the sad unwashed if they’re still laughing by September 1st. Window hasn’t closed yet, lots of hints and possibilities still we could surprise a few yet.

    I am not pro Ashley id rather he left to but you have to be realistic and support your team regardless who owns it manages it or plays for it no one person is bigger than the team that is Newcastle United. HOWAY THE LADS!

  • 125 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    having not spoken to you before the torq incident
    you started it claiming im responsible for torqs decision ton drop off for a while you are wrong
    get your facts correct sonny before you accuse someone you may jog on

  • 126 Slank // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    Ben3arfa

    ‘..Thank you Mike Ashley , you have well and truly transformed us into a joke of a club…’

    Other fans have laughed at the antics and delusions of Newcastle fans for years, possibly decades.

    Not to be out done Shepherd and Hall jnr were caught mocking the club’s own supporters for spending extortionate amounts of money on merchandise, calling female supporters “dogs”, and mocking star striker Alan Shearer by calling him the “Mary Poppins of football”, all while frequenting a brothel. What a hoot.

    What about the sacking of Sir Bobby Robson. That had all the other fans falling about too.

  • 127 JFK junior // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    I and many others saw for ourselves. It was even written about last night how you were to blame.

    Take some responsibility

  • 128 JAMSHA // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    cisse is too much… if wonga is askn more from poor den why dont u lend money to every poor n the world

  • 129 Rotonda heights // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    What is the Quran? Do you mean the Koran?

  • 130 Spoof // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    hts@80
    Is the Cisse stance due to religion, I have by doubts about that, if it was due to religion then the protest being made which is against people “making money from lending money” would also apply to Virgin and Barclays who were our pervious sponsor and current Premier league sponsor, so for me Cisse’s stance can only be based on a matter of principle, now many would agree with him in stating that they do like like the alledged target market and the excessive interest charged for late payments.
    Now I am not going down the road of is Wonga good or bad as that is a different issue, but if Cisse’s stance is I expect a stance on principale then surely he is way off he mark, I’m not saying that he or any of us should drop our principals, but if players refuse to wear a logo for a company they don’t like then what chance do clubs have of getting a sponsor, alcohol companies would have no chance and due to PPI would any bank have a chance, book a flight and there is always additional charge’s there would be some player claiming that due to principal and the charges made they won’t wear the shirt, where would it end.

  • 131 shear-class // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    Haha Steinhof – And totally agree Kev I think what makes Cisse’s stance harder to take on this is the fact that none of the other Muslim players at Newcastle like Ben Arfa, Tiote, Sissoko seem to be bothered about this. If it was a major issue with regards to their religion then surely they would all be refusing to wear it which suggests this is just a personal choice by Cisse and one that the cynic in me maybe thinks is just being used by the player to maybe force a move elsewhere.

  • 132 hadthetshirt // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    That kerrang has a lot to answer for.All them head bangers with their long hair shaking about.Screaming like someone throwing up down the lavy.What’s the world coming too.:)

  • 133 GenralHez // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    It is time Cissi grew up, he is an employee of the club and if he does not like it he should put in a transfer request.

    Let’s get some new blood in and go forward.

  • 134 BillBurch // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    I wonder where Cisse keeps his £millions? If it’s in an islamic bank he’ll earn interest but they don’t call it that, they call it profit sharing where all customers share whatever the bank earns over-and-above its overheads whereas our banks offer a fixed percentage. It amounts to the same thing, if you leave money in then you’ll reap the benefit whatever it’s called! As has been pointed out many times, he happily wore the Virgin Money shirt! Would he have refused to wear the “Blue Star” shirt because Gazza is an alcoholic or any pharmaceutical company’s logo because of drugs? He’s being hypocritical or is being badly advised; he said nothing when Wonga were first introduced as sponsors but “jumped on the bandwagon” after fans started criticizing!

  • 135 one Tony Green // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    Rotonda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran

    John Tudor you winding up the children again mate




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