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Newcastle’s Results Can Turn Things Around

11:23 am, Thursday, July 18th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 117 Comments

Things are not too great at Newcastle at the moment, with the lack of new players coming through the door this summer, and the Cisse – Wonga affair looking more than a little serious at the moment.

Paul Dummett Motherwell

Paul Dummett – the star man at Motherwell

But as we saw on Tuesday night, Newcastle results can start to turn things around at the club, and certainly we were a little surprised the lads looked so good at Motherwell.

Yes, we know that pre-season results don’t usually mean too much, but a win is a win, and wins lift the spirits of Newcastle fans, whoever we beat, as we saw after the lads’ fine display in Scotland.

It will only take a couple of wins and a couple of good displays in Portugal for things to start looking a lot better at Newcastle, by the time the lads return next Wednesday.

And the positive thing on Tuesday night was that two youngsters took the honors with both Haris Vuckic and local lad Paul Dummett playing very well, and manager Alan Pardew thought  Haris Vuckic was just great on his return from his serious ACL knee injury.

And Pardew thought that Paul Dummett was the Man of the Match, and the local lad has also been impressing in training, and may be kept on Tyneside for next season, if his good form continues this summer.

We were in a much worse position four years ago after our relegation, when the newspapers were predicting we would drop down the leagues just like Leeds United had done previously.

But that didn’t happen and by the end of August things were looking good, and we had won five of our first six games and drew the other one at West Brom, under interim manager Chris Hughton – and the rest is history – very good history.

So the same thing can happen this summer, and all Newcastle need to do is keep winning and the current negativity can be washed away.

It’s simple when you get really down to it – just keep winning. :D

Wonder how Joe Kinnear’s doing on the transfer front?

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117 responses so far ↓

  • 1 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    If we get off to a bad start this coming season then things will turn really ugly really fast. Pardew is already on thin ice, throw Kinnear into the mix and the still fresh memories of last years debacle and if nothing else it should be an eventful season ahead

  • 2 wolfshead@toon // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    arseanal havent bought any players yet either are things bad for them as well?

  • 3 plana // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Play the young kids they may suprise you Pardew.

  • 4 Slank // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Repost:

    Ben3arfa

    ‘..Thank you Mike Ashley , you have well and truly transformed us into a joke of a club…’

    Other fans have laughed at the antics and delusions of Newcastle fans for years, possibly decades.

    Not to be out done Shepherd and Hall jnr were caught mocking the club’s own supporters for spending extortionate amounts of money on merchandise, calling female supporters “dogs”, and mocking star striker Alan Shearer by calling him the “Mary Poppins of football”, all while frequenting a brothel. What a hoot.

    What about the sacking of Sir Bobby Robson. That had all the other fans falling about too.

  • 5 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    no wolfshead
    as they were fine last season and have a fine youth setup and only require 1/2 squad players if that

  • 6 JFK junior // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    A win on opening day, with a Remy brace and a de jong worldie…

    All will be forgiven!

    Time for my meds maybe??

  • 7 JFK junior // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    We only require 2-3 players.

  • 8 Ben3arfa // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    @wolfshead

    yes but Arsenal made it into the Champions leagues whilst we almost got relegated .

  • 9 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Haris Vuckic has two serious disadvantages.

    1 – He’s made of glass and breaks down under the slightest strain.

    2 – He has the turning circle of an oil tanker

  • 10 JAMSHA // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    3rd season finishd 4th wit new owner on board on.Fm13

  • 11 plana // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    No need to panic about signings, all of our targets will be doing the same training and conditioning as our players are doing.

  • 12 stan anderson // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    I do pray its not more heartache ahead for the best fans anywhere who deserve to be challenging with the top teams in the world.

  • 13 Slank // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    stan anderson

    ‘…Why should any class players want to come to our club,if we show no ambition to win anything..’

    Explain therefore why we have so many (dare I say it) classy players at the club? It can’t be the weather or the beach at Whitley Bay or sitting outside in a street cafe supping cappuccino on a starry night in Byker can it?

    You can fool some of the players some of the time but you can’t fool all the players all the time.

  • 14 toon kk // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    I think there’s a good chance we’ll be relegated within the next few seasons. All these poor decisions, penny pinching and a poor manager will spell disaster.

  • 15 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    plan a
    but not training to the hoof ball standard or getting in any playing time with our team
    its going to smack of, well they got no pre-season

  • 16 wolfshead@toon // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    slank

    you can buy a cappuccino in byker?? haha

  • 17 JFK junior // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    Toon kk

    Utter garbage. Your dislike for the management is one thing, but that shows very little respect for our players.

  • 18 Spotlight Kid // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    Want to cheer up? Read about the times when this once great club was worth agonising over:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/when-saturday-comes-blog/2013/jul/18/newcastle-american-tour-summer-1949

  • 19 Slank // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    John @ 15

    Although I never saw the match at Motherwell. What I saw of our goals they were all scored playing the ball on the deck. Now that all could be just a fluke or perhaps a sign of things to come, hope so.

  • 20 christoon5369 // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    jack

    he has alot more advantages though

    plus, who did you work out hes slow on the turn???

  • 21 geordiescamp // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Sounding very much like 2 years ago -there was alot of noise about lack of investment but the season turned out well
    i reckon we will get 2 strikers bought & all will be ok
    as the players bought in january are of decent quality.

  • 22 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    think we’ll sign Bent and maybe a few young’ un’s and that’ll be it, the club said themselves that we brought our transfer targets forward in january and all this talk of 15 million bids for pea will be nothing more than the usual ‘Well we tried to get them over the line’ BS

  • 23 Slank // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    Wolf

    When ordering it’s best to say ‘a frothy coffee pet’ !

  • 24 wolfshead@toon // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    slank

    pmsl

  • 25 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    christoon5369

    Watch the lad, he has no pace at all, yes he’s can play the nice pass but truth is he’s not strong enough and we are desperate for pace

  • 26 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    Another PR disaster for the TOOn
    Newcastle United ventured to Motherwell on Tuesday night, it has been revealed that not one official from Newcastle United was there to fill a seat in the executive section

  • 27 Jesus1983 // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    Vuckic has been great for the last 2 pre-seasons…Fingers crossed he stays fit but i have my doubts!

    Would be a good option from the bench!

  • 28 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    slank well blow me yes you’re correct .but the talk was on new players to come in how there is no rush for them to come in.
    and how long before the hoof returns it was motherwell no slur on them but come on last season’s performances

  • 29 nufc 11 // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    On Papiss it stinks to high heaven of him or his agent engineering a move if its ok with the other muslims why does it bother him so much only that he wants a move to triple his wages in a far off land he had to know nufc wud refuse to let him wear whAT HE WANTED he knew to well stinks of a greedy footballer than devoted muslim….

  • 30 christoon5369 // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    the thing we lack is creativity if he can pick a pass surely thats an advantage,
    hes 20 and still maturing as a player and person hes a big lad already and still growing, balance and strength on the ball will develop, he can finish, we need goals,

    pirlo has no pace but can pick a pass

  • 31 Slank // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    Charlie

    ‘Newcastle United ventured to Motherwell on Tuesday night, it has been revealed that not one official from Newcastle United was there to fill a seat in the executive section ‘

    How awful, smack bottoms to everyone especially the new Performance Director.

  • 32 eltoon // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    WTF? This is bad news for me. Living in Spain, it’s my life line to toon matches. Hope it does not affect Sopcast

    http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/landmark-legal-win-stops-newcastle-fans-watching-illegal-streaming-of-matches-on-internet-in-pubs/

  • 33 jimmysmith // Jul 18, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Wahey, Rhino stickin fair up the poms in he 2nd test, go you good thing, c’mon son, fecken excellent!

  • 34 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    christoon5369

    We dont lack creativity, we have Cabaye, HBA, Marveuax, we lack the manager to allow these players to play.

    Yeah agree that Pirlo isn’t the quickest, but he’s world class in every other area, something that young Haris is a million miles away from being and if past season are anything to go by then he’ll miss most of the season as he’ll be on the treatment table

  • 35 BenbulbenMag // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    Somebody doesn’t like the fact that your site gets a lot more hit’s Ed !!

    http://www.newcastleunited-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/yank_plastic_geordies_claim_wonga_are_forcing_cisse_out_800268/index.shtml?

  • 36 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    maybe we have no executives or they dont like watching football

  • 37 GenralHez // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    Get rid of Cisse, he is only an employee.
    Get some talent in asap, that is what you are paid for Kinear.
    Make sure the manager does nit play hoof ball, it is your club he is destroying Mr Ashley.

  • 38 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    If reports are to be believed then Cisse has asked to wear a charity’s name on his shirt and yet he’s a greedy footballer???

  • 39 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    bogie was similar no pace but passing ability

  • 40 Munster Mag // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    sadly, I think Cisse will leave NUFC. A brilliant player for the right team. Ashley AGAIN has lacked intelligence in pursuing Wonga. As far as I know, it wasn’t the most amazing deal in the world anyway? If Ba was here, they would both tell Ashley where to stick his sponsorship. Ba would have taken no prisoners on the issue!

  • 41 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Got Executives – and if they don’t like watching Football what the F**k are they doing at the club.

  • 42 GenralHez // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    GenralHez // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    Get rid of Cisse, he is only an employee.
    Get some talent in asap, that is what you are paid for Kinear.
    Make sure the manager does not play hoof ball, it is your club he is destroying Mr Ashley and this boring play is reducing the clubs income from ticket sales and advertising.

  • 43 SupaToonKid // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    If we sign Remy & Nacer Chadli (LW) I’d be happy with summer business. Cissé, Remy, Gouffran, Campbell, Ameobi (if he stays, doesn’t matter if he does not) & maybe Vuckic too if stretched would be a good for forward options. Chadli would provide us with the LW we so very need to replace hapless, defensive Jonas.

    Possible side(s):
    Krul;
    Debuchy/Santon, Mbiwa/Saylor, Coloccini, Santon/Haidara;
    Sissoko, Cabaye/Anita/Tioté;
    Ben Arfa/Gouffran, Cabaye/Marveaux/Vuckic, Chadli/Remy;
    Cissé/Gouffran/Remy

    We can only dream boys

  • 44 Munster Mag // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    Wolfshead, that was a strange comment. To compare us with Arsenal, who are looking to pay about 30 mill for a striker, and got 4th last season, is pointless. Anyway, their set up is so far ahead of ours, and they don’t have Joke….

  • 45 lesh // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    Two point:

    Ed and all of us wonder how JFK’s getting on in the transfer market? I expect he is too – he must be wondering what he’s talked himself into!

    Yes Charlie, not even the courtesy of a senior presence in Scotland. Terrible behaviour!

  • 46 ROSHAN MAGPIE // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    Lads I have a question for all of you and that is if you have a choice of signing a forward between bent and gignac who will you buy

  • 47 plana // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    At this time of the season its all about building up stamina and fitness.

  • 48 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    exactly charlie, making more money

  • 49 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    JohnTudor
    ‘OOPs sorry couldn’t go to Motherwell – to busy packing my bags for a jolly week in Portugal free courtesy of NUFC’

  • 50 plana // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    Roshan, i would hope we do not sign any of those two. We need strikers on the way up not on the way down.

  • 51 Slank // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    Munster,

    Perhaps it’s a Senegalese thing as Ba couldn’t wait to move on to more money.

    For all Jonas’ perceived playing faults and Colo’s family troubles I have a much greater respect for our two Argentinians who have been very loyal to the club.

  • 52 jimmysmith // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    Wahey, Rhino gettin fair up the poms in the 2nd test, you’re in trouble now lads, trust me on that. ( censored version, apparently Ed didn’t take much of a shine to my previous three posts)

  • 53 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    too right charlie
    kinnear should retire to the ALGRAVE

  • 54 lesh // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    JFK junior. Take two your pills and it’ll be dark when you wake up. Another day if the window gone by without a signing.

  • 55 viv // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    If Cisse, does’nt want to wear the shirt, move him on!

  • 56 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    Viv – Why do you care whether a player will wear a sponsor or not?

  • 57 toonluvva // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    If we can get a good start to the season it’ll settle the fans down and provide much needed confidence for the players.

    I wonder how many points the fans would like to see us on after 10 matches?

  • 58 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    if jfk had been at motherwell he might have seen a player signed by them for not too much moolar that had an eye for goal pfffft

  • 59 Indian Magpie // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    Bent is a Pardew Signing, Ashley wants Pardew out, Therefore We must sign Bent. Logic at NUFC

  • 60 GeordieDan // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    For anyone who hasn;t seen the goal from the Motherwell game yet:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZS-Fpox3ZE

    Good stuff.

  • 61 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    hull is early on
    remember the last time at home take nothing for granted

  • 62 DevonToon // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    Jack @ 25… You think we live in Fifa 13 land? Pace aint half its cracked upto be… Some of the best players in the world have nil pace

  • 63 GeordieDan // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Goal(s) even. Doh! Stupid keyboard

  • 64 nufc82 // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    I don’t blame Cisse if he now wants to leave Newcastle. For the first half of last season he was played on the wing and then when he returned to his preferred position he had to put up with with long ball tactics, which totally goes against his style of play. He never once moaned and has always said how much he loves the fans and the club. Now it seems a lot of fans are turning against him over the Wonga issue. Personally I think it’s a disgrace that we are being sponsored by a payday lending company and highlights the lack of credibility and morals at the club. A lot of media outlets have reported that Cisse would be happy to play for Newcastle but he wants a logo of a charity on his shirt instead of Wonga’s. if this is true, as fans we should back him to the the hilt. Also for all the fans that keep comparing Wonga to Virgin, there is a massive different between a payday lending company and a bank. I am sick and tired of Newcastle’s image being dragged through the mug by this current ownership and I am disappointed that so many fans on here are backing Wonga instead of our top striker.

  • 65 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    DevonToon

    Some of the best players in the world may not have great pace but we don’t have any of the best players in the world so whats your point???

    And if you think that pace isn’t half it’s cracked up to be go tell that to any manager in the game today and see their reaction

  • 66 viv // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    Offkey, if he does’nt wear it then he does’nt play! So why keep him.

  • 67 GeordieDan // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    I a player doesn’t have pace then the he’s probably going to struggle big time in the Prem-the fastest league there is.

    It may not be the be all and end all but it helps (a lot).

  • 68 Macas // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    Kinnear was apparently watching the Academy players instead, but if he had turned up he would no doubt have got slagged off for that as well. The bloke hasn’t done himself any favours since he got here but there are some real moaning minnies on here.

  • 69 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    no if he doesn’t wear it he can wear charity patch

  • 70 low fell mag // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    How the hell can you give Ashley stick for appointing Wonga,
    Nothing wrong with Wonga,we live in a western world which is a completely different culture to our muslim brothers.
    If you dont like it ,lump it .
    We are not the only club who has Wonga as a sponsor so whats all the fuss about.
    Since I was a child ,and now im in my 50s there has been and still is the Provi and I have known a few families who have relied on that service.
    That’s the way of the world in the west!

  • 71 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Viv – fair play mate, I would have preferred the club just to let him and see what wonga do – cant see them pulling the plug – may try and reduce the money though without the publicity I suppose.

    Everyone – Anyway, any news on decent signings guys

  • 72 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Does anyone know the name of that woman who is on twitter for wonga and if she has made any statements about the cisse situation?

  • 73 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    i thought his remit was to bring in players not watch them kiddies i may stand corrected and by the way the talk was on how no execs attended the mothers game not on kinnear moan moan moan

  • 74 plana // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Viv, its as simple as that as an employee, he should comply with his employers dress code. Personally i think its just a ruse to get a move somewhere else. No doubt the coming weeks will show where Mr Cisse, wants to play!

  • 75 LooneyToon41 // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    Players with pace? Like Beckham,Scholes,Lampard….
    I’d prefer to have players with technical ability over out and out pace.
    Tbf, i imagine that Jack was suggesting players that have BOTH pace and ability.

    Regarding WONGA, i’d be surprised if that was MA’s decision. That was Derek’s job wasn’t it?

  • 76 Peter Reid Monkey Heed // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Afternoon Lads,

    If you have read any of my posts before a close colleague of mine at work has good contact with someone who is related to a member very high at the club who unfortunately i can not name due to my job. When my colleague meets him he tends to come back and tell me what was said as i live in London and the only Toon fan in the office.

    He met him on Friday and mentioned a man called “Mick Harford” was going to be brought in over the weekend just gone as an Enforcer for JK. Take from this what you will as i am only 21 this name didn’t ring a bell until i searched him.

    I asked about the JK saga and this is what got me, take from this what you will but MA 100% brought in JK in order to have Pardew resign which was confirmed from his own gob. In Pardew signing the new contract he does have a clause inside where he is paid for the whole contract and which ever amount that is MA is by any means trying to get him gone. My colleague had no idea of replacement manager though.

    Also DL did not resign he was fired, MA grew sick of his lack of dignity and c*ck ups and was told he was fired.

    If you have any questions within limit feel free to ask, like i said i’m just passing on what i have heard and from meeting this person once he is a very good contact.

  • 77 DevonToon // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Toonluvva – i think realistically between 13-17 points…

  • 78 NUFC FOR SALE // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    i don’t agree with the whole ‘Bad Decision’ by Ashley over the Wonga deal

    You can’t make a financial sponsorship deal based on certain players being at the club at that point in time….thats ridiculous.

    Funny how Tiote and Sissoko have no issues.

    This has nothing to do with religion, its being used as an excuse to leave.

    To be honest loosing Cisse is not that big a deal.

    He has no positional sense on the pitch, doesn’t do the basics for a striker.

    Hes another luxury player and if he doesn’t want to be here (and just because his agent says otherwise, thats just paying lip service to ther fans) move him on….same goes for Cabaye.

    Had enough of sulking players.

  • 79 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    not the man who replaces the bulbs in the flood lights

  • 80 plana // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    Harford, was a centre forward who played for NUFC, he enjoys a punch up. He is good pals with Vinny Jones.

  • 81 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    it is in fact all hearsay to be believed when it is concluded

  • 82 plana // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    And Harford, is a die hard Mackem!

  • 83 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    HBA will wear the Wonga shirt, Tiote will wear the Wonga shirt so why is Cisse kicking up a stink?

    Could it be that a) he’s not kicking up a stink and the media are making it up or b) he’s not happy at the club and is using the Wonga shirt as a way to force out a move?

    Either way, it would have little or nothing to do with the sponsorship.

    I don’t like the regime but let’s not be ridiculous here.

  • 84 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    If Ashley wants Pardew out then simply pay him off and move on as trying to force him out will ultimately kill us as a football side, he was the one who was stupid enough to offer the 8 year deal then he should be the one to make amends and stump up the money

  • 85 Macas // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    John Tudor – Do you have a short memory span? As you commented yourself on Kinnear not being there! And his remit was also to oversee the development of the youth players as far as I recall

  • 86 t00ntime // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    Wonga is a perfectly legal company. They have high intrest rates because their loans are high risk.
    Dont give me the “they are hoping u cant pay back” bullcr4p

    Every company that gives u money are hoping you dont pay back Asap. That includes credit cards and banks. Even phone companies hope you go over your limit. Are those 3 corrupt as well?
    Muslims belive profiting from loans is wrong? So how come their banks are still in buisness?
    Cisse thinks its immoral? Yet gets paid 50grand a week for kicking a ball around a park and thinks thats fair?

    He wants a charity so we should back him? You realise that wonga paid 24mil for 4 years and will want the max amount of advertising right? Cisse the goalscorer will most likely be the player on the pictures, without the wonga logo 2 things will happen
    1) less advertisment
    2) when someone asks why isnt he wearing Wonga, people will answer “because its a immoral company bla bla bla” which is bad advertisement for wonga.

    If cisse doesnt want to wear the wonga shirt he should pay them the money they will lose from advertising. Then we will see how much he beliefs really matter…. (Cause he will say no and carry on crying about it until he gets what he wants)

  • 87 Novocastrian66 // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    Nufc82. I support the club, the team. I won’t make any difference to me if Cisse stays or goes, I will still support Newcastle.
    As for company names on shirts, that doesn’t bother me either.
    What is needed to deal with pay day lenders is a change in the law. I would suggest that if you object to them so much and you really want to make a difference you establish a protest group, and lobby your MP for a change in the law.
    I too would not blame Cisse for wanting to leave but his chosen method to force a move I’m afraid I do blame him.

  • 88 Mister Tuff // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    I understand that there was an incident today in Portugal when the Toon team bus was travelling from the hotel to the training ground in Braga.
    Officials on the coach noticed that the coach was being followed a young man who was running alongside the coach. Officals were concerned about this and believed that “the runner” might be a trouble maker and cause problems. The officials contacted the police to report the incident -and just as the coach arrived at the stadium the police pounced. The young man was sprayed with CS gas and bitten by a police dog before being thrown into
    the back of a police van and taken to the local lock up.
    Later, the young man, Hoolio Geordio, who was wearing an NUFC top was released from police custody and had this to say to awaiting reporters.
    ” I only wanted autograph I Toon fan – I watch Sky News and see Vietnam boy chasing Gooner bus. I think
    I do same and meet players but I am gassed and bitten by dog -the policia they beat me up. I no longer Toon fan
    but Gooner fan, Percy out”.

  • 89 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    and as i said i stand to be corrected ,
    no need to be sarky
    as kinnear is there to my disgust i care not of what his duties are as it is a travesty he is there in the first place

  • 90 Peter Reid Monkey Heed // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    @ Plana

    I had to check Harford’s wikipedia page to get an insight. Played for Wimbeldon and us in his career. The thing that threw me was it stated he signed as 1st team coach for Milwall about 3 weeks ago, i found it strange as the person who told my colleague is very high up so i’m slightly confused with that one.

    Like i say i pass on the words i hear whenever i do for something to talk about

  • 91 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    Ruddy – to be fair, I thought you would be one who would allow others to possess their own opinion however silly you believe it to be……..seems I was wrong…….

  • 92 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    It always come back to, if one muslim does it they all should………..how foolish

  • 93 Jamseyd24 // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    I just cannot believe its nearly the end of another working week and we still havent had as much as a sniff of a transfer!!!

    Cisse is going no where this is a smoke screen by the club to keep our minds of lack of transfers. I work in Iraq and I have asked many off my Iraqi colleges and they say yes it is against their believes but the same applys should it be Wonga or Virgin 1% or 2000%.

  • 94 AndyNUFC // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Can everybody please drop any belief or assumption this is a Wonga issue for Cisse, please?

    In simple terms – the deal was announced in October. It has been over a month since the season finished – do you honestly reckon Cisse thought he would just stay behind from the pre-season training to negotiate not wearing a branded shirt?

  • 95 viv // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Cisse, not all that good anyway, yes he scores some spectacular goals but misses loads of sitters. Plus he is always caught offside.

  • 96 christoon5369 // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    jack

    its not all about pace, in certain areas yes pace is good, technical quality is also needed, walcott is a prime example, he had raw pace but no end product hes now developed his game and uses both well, players who have lost pace develop their game and improve, haris is technically good and with games will improve although he does need to stay fit

  • 97 Markaccus // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    Wonga should have checked to see if any players would have a problem with them. They have no say in who plays and who doesnt.

    The club should also have checked to see if any players would have issue.

    Finally, this is not the first time something like this has happened. Kanoute had a blank shirt for similar reasons. Islam is like any religion, some are more devout than others so if tiote, hba are ok with it and cisse isnt, then so what. Live and let live.

  • 98 Novocastrian66 // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    Ruddy; Plan B for me.

  • 99 Macas // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    John Tudor – You denied what you wrote about 5 minutes earlier, so what do you expect me to say!

  • 100 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    wtf you on about

  • 101 Thump // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    Are we contemplating mass suicide yet?

  • 102 DevonToon // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    JB – my point was Vuckic doesnt need pace, hes got a clever footie brain. I think most managers would say every team needs a bit of pace, but its not essential. Pace is horribly over rated, gimmie a team of zidanes + pirlos over a team of walcotts + navas’s

  • 103 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Offkey

    Sssh. If he steadfastly stuck to his religious beliefs then he would not have wore the Virgin Money shirt, so pipe down.

    Novo

    If there is an issue stemming from Cisse’s camp regarding Wonga I do believe that he is merely using it as an excuse to force a move from the club.

  • 104 John Tudor // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    no macas you explain your post idenied nothing merely said i was willing to be corrected kinnear in my eyes has one task to perform

  • 105 JackButler // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    christoon5369

    His lack of pace is only a small issue as if he’s sharp enough on the ball he can get away with it the real issue is that he’s gonna potentially be playing in the most physical league in the world and the lad is made of glass, for a 20 year old he has missed a massive amount of time through injury and I think his game and physical attributes are better suited to the Spanish league rather than the Prem.

    Would love nothing more than the lad to settle, get over his injury nightmare and be able to play week in week out and show what he can do but I highly doubt it

  • 106 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    Devon

    Is that supposed to imply that Navas is a poor player like Walcott? Navas is an excellent player, albeit not Zidane, Pirlo quality, but then again, not many players will ever be of that standard.

  • 107 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    Ruddy
    Normally I’d agree with regards to the media but can’t see why he wouldn’t travel unless injured in which case I’m sure AP will comment on the matter tomos when no doubt he will be quizzed by the media on the cisse issue

  • 108 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    Ruddy – Your losing it Ruddy, I dont think you can back up that statement in any way.

  • 109 geordiejohn // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    Papiss Cissé fined for refusing to wear shirt showing Newcastle club sponsor Wonga.

    Initial fine of £5,000, rising to £47,987,654,334 if he hasn’t paid by Friday.

  • 110 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    Offkey

    Not losing it one bit, I’ve just deemed you not worthy of engaging with :D

    Tads

    I’m not saying the media are simply making it up, I’m saying it is a possibility, if Cisse is making an issue of the Wonga thing then in my mind he is making up excuses to leave the club.

    Also, I’m sure that Cisse wasn’t the only player not to make the trip, I’m pretty sure Bigi and a few others didn’t travel, yet the media aren’t saying they are looking to leave. Funny that eh?

  • 111 viv // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    If Vuckic has a clever football brain tell him to lend it to Pardew.

  • 112 Offkey // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    Ruddy – You are a joke mate, one that keeps getting less funny…………

  • 113 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    Don’t like it, don’t read it. Simple. Adios

  • 114 Fridge // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Marcaccus
    The club should have checked if any player had a problem with the wonga deal?? Grow up man. They are payed to play football. If the player has a problem then he is the problem. Not the other way around. If he will not play then get rid. Yes This is a business and i Get more and more frustrated People dont seem to Get that. Should we have chosen a different sponsor is a different matter. For now Wonga IS our sponsor.

  • 115 christoon5369 // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    jack

    sorry i may be missing your point, his injuries have been strains and ligament injury not casued by playing in a physical league, i cant say ive seem him knocked off the ball? what i have seem is a technical player who knows the net is and can pass to a team mate which a lot of our players struggled to do last season, its like saying mata would struggle with the physical side of the league but a footballing brain helps read the game and know what you want to do before you get the ball rather than worry about using you pace to get out of trouble

  • 116 BillBurch // Jul 18, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    I wonder where Cisse keeps his £millions? If it’s in an islamic bank he’ll earn interest but they don’t call it that, they call it profit sharing where all customers share whatever the bank earns over-and-above its overheads whereas our banks offer a fixed percentage. It amounts to the same thing, if you leave money in then you’ll reap the benefit whatever it’s called! As has been pointed out many times, he happily wore the Virgin Money shirt! Would he have refused to wear the “Blue Star” shirt because Gazza is an alcoholic or any pharmaceutical company’s logo because of drugs? He’s being hypocritical or is being badly advised; he said nothing when Wonga were first introduced as sponsors but “jumped on the bandwagon” after fans started criticizing! Let him go!

  • 117 christoon5369 // Jul 18, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    macas

    give it a rest man,




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