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Liverpool Interested In Newcastle Winger – But For £25M?

10:26 am, Friday, July 19th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 79 Comments

There are reports in France that Liverpool will soon put in a bid for Newcastle’s French winger Hatem Ben Arfa, according to reports in France.

ben arfa weraing wonga yesterday

Ben Arfa – in training this summer

It’s not the first time Liverpool and manager Brendan Rodgers have been linked with the 13 times capped French International, who is a very popular player on Tyneside.

There was some news back in January that Liverpool were interested in the former Marseilles and Lyon winger, but at the time Ben Arfa had that bad hamstring injury, which kept him out for a lot of last season.

And it seems this news has come up after Liverpool missed out on Henrikh Mkhitaryan, who joined Borussia Dortmund from Shakhtar Donetsk.

The reports in France say that Ben Arfa would be open to the move to the Reds, but that would be a surprise, because he has said many times and said he wants to stay on Tyneside and play for the terrific supporters, and currently he is seeking anew deal at the club.

But of course you never know in football, and we suppose owner Mike Ashley would be willing to sell, but Mike is not daft and it would take an Andy Carroll type bid for Ashley to sell, and we think that would be around £25M.

And Liverpool should be unwilling to pay that amount for the French winger, which is why he will almost certainly stay on Tyneside this summer.

26 year-old Hatem has had a bit of an injury filled time on Tyneside, and in three seasons, since signing on from Marseilles, he has played 56 times with 11 goals and 10 assists.

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79 responses so far ↓

  • 1 G // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    For 25M, I would be tempted if I’m honest. Much as I like the player, he is fit so rarely, that we are lucky to see him playing at all. If somebody offers that kind of cash, for a player who does not play often enough, then it has to be considered.

  • 2 geordie1892 // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    10-15m closer to the mark ED.

  • 3 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    Lilongwe

    I’m not saying that I don’t want a championship striker, I’m saying I don’t understand why so many fans seem desperate for us to sign up one of these two. How would they react if we signed a 24 year old from the French second division for £8-10M?

    As for Bent…well we don’t really know do we? Lambert obviously didn’t fancy him for some reason or another, and that could be just playing style of personality. It seems to me that he couldn’t play Benteke and Bent with the way he wanted to play, so he played Benteke and the style was leant toward a player like Benteke. Bent should fit into our style more as he’s more similar to Cisse.

  • 4 yo-yo // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    If this blog is like the Toon then we’ve followed a decent finish with a near relegation experience.
    We have had race hatred and white supremacy.
    We’ve had enough toys thrown out of prams to fill Toy-r-us in the Metro Centre.
    We’ve had bickering and persecution of the “ITKS”s.
    We’ve got trolls and kids.
    So the blog has finished about 16th in the EPL club blog tables. Like a lot of regulars I rarely post these days.

    Chance is now to get rid of the personal slights and slagging offs.
    New season means more footie related comments and less personal shite.

    We’ve lost some really good bloggers in the last few months since the end of the season. The blog is worse as a result.

    Beattie has been transferred to some Central Lancashire club (on his day posted like a HBA mazy run but sadly inconsistent and could put the boot in like Colo agin Liverpool)
    Looks like Kets is off to Fenerbace.(every side needs a joker)
    Even Ibiza is playing for the reserves these days.
    And sadly we’ve lost Torq – not only for his insights from inside the football world but also his analysis of players and games and I for one am serioussly P-d off he has been driven off here by some mouthy eejit.
    Indian’s form has dipped seriosuly and he has accepted a transfer to another league
    The other good news is that as Pardew hasn’t been playing competitive games the AP slaggers have been quieter esp the guy from Norway with the bad spelling which is the blog equivalent of halitosis. Catch yer breath guys we’ve signed nobody.
    Jeff – the word you seem to be groping for is ‘source’ not ‘sauce’.

    On football

    We need at least two forwards – a wide player like Remy and a more central striker/playmaker like Siem de Jong. I’d risk Charlie Austin as backup despite the shoulder injury as he is young enough to get over that and could be eased in anyway.
    Could live with Bent but he would be a compromise signing.

    I always thought of Moussa as a box to box mid but if he thinks he can take on the No 10 role then he needs to work up a partnership with Cisse on field. But at least he is adaptable.

    We do need backup in central defence but is must be a player who is nippt, and doesn’t get turned unlike Saylor and Colo.

    Finally we are going to get strong rumours if not bids for HBA and Yo and are just going to have to live with that. I would not want either to go even at £20m as the side is still gelling and starting afresh will set us back.

    I think we will get two possibly three younger players come through this next season but sadly Campbell will not be one of them. There just seems to be little space for the Jinky Johnston style players these days.
    I hope Pardew will go more for the 4-3-3 next season like he has said in interview and we still need new coaching in put not just a fitness coach.

    Anyway that’s my blog quota for today and the forseable

  • 5 geordiemark // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    for 25 million id let him go am gonna get some stick here but he gives the ball away far to many times for my liking dont get me wrong hes an excellent player but yeah for 25 million id let him go

  • 6 rainrix // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Can see them offering about 10 15 mil as above. But no doubt that’ll be rejected as we’re holding out for stupid money for everyone according to JK.

  • 7 Slank // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    Liverpool,

    What’s that old saying ‘once bitten twice shy ‘

  • 8 geordiemark // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    ToonDarnSarf

    id give bent a go you dont come a bad player overnight

  • 9 jazzyp // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    g
    a cracking player on his day no doubt, but would a fit marveuax or vuckic be able to slot into his role.
    but my opinion is that we should not be looking to sell our best players, only to strengthen. sadly we are doing neither !!

  • 10 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    Slank

    Exactly. I’d forgotten about Wickham. Ok, maybe we should have got Moses when we had the chance, but I think he went for more first team football at Wigan, which is fair. He got his big move anyway.

    As long as we sign at least one striker (and it’s not someone like Kuqi!), then I’ll be happy. We’ve got to trust Carr, Pardew, JFK and the rest to do the jobs that they’re hired to do. I may not agree with every decision, but I’ll get behind whichever striker they sign.

  • 11 wolfshead@toon // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    yoyo

    *forseeable tehe ;-)

  • 12 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    geordiemark

    Unless your name is Michael Owen?

  • 13 John Tudor // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    i take it eejit as being idiot and sauce is a quite accepted term as is sprout as in my vegetables sprout up not spout up

  • 14 John Tudor // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    no offence intended yo-yo

  • 15 geordiemark // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    ToonDarnSarf

    true haha but bent knows where the net is hes scored some really good goals over the years and hes miles ahead of shola so why not give the bloke a chance and he might just score a hatrick agaisnt the scum at the stadium of shite :)

  • 16 roblee7 // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    Speaking of seeing footballers at the pictures, one of my best experiences ever…our school was given some tickets for the premier of film called somethjng about ‘the titans’ or sonething, was about american football and had friendzel washington in it if I remember rightly. ..wasnt that good. Anyway, sitting in the row in front of us was sir bobby and his wife, and a load of the players…remember seeing lua lua, ameobi, bellamy, dyer and jenas and think peter ramage and a couple of youngsters. To the point, got bobbys autograph after and have to say he was the most humble, most pleasant character iv ever met from the football world.been lucky enough to meet him a couple of times and makes me tearful to this day just thinking of the man…and to think where we are now with people like joe kinnear at the club….not to mention we had that turd dennis wise for a most inpleasant period at the club…true legend sir bobby!

  • 17 G // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    yo-yo, good post up there mate, bit of an epic, and I agree with most of what you have said up there. I will also miss Torq’s informative posts, and even Ket’s often hilarious posts. As for Ibiza playing for the reserves, lets be honest, his form has dipped significantly in the last 12 months, so it was to be expected.

  • 18 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    TDS,
    But we don’t play to Cisse’s strengths, so he wouldn’t suit in that case.

    Your comment about the French second division doesn’t really hold water as it is a much poorer standard, as you well know.

    Austin is going for closer to £3million due to him being out of contract next season. He failed a medical at Hull due to a shoulder problem that hasn’t caused him to miss games in roughly 3 years. He can hold the ball up, is strong, can finish with feet and is good in the air.

    Rhodes has been prolific for years now. Why did he go to Blackburn? Who knows, they certainly expected to come straight back up, and had it not been for Rhodes they could have gone down again.

    Bent could well be personality, but I’d say it is the fact he isn’t actually all that good anymore. He still managed 24 appearances last year, so wasn’t like Lambert wasn’t giving him any chance. His attitude stinks, and has caused issues at pretty much every club he has been at. 29 years old, and declining in ability, or 24 year olds improving and would work their socks off for a chance. Not to mention that they would be much less likely to sulk if not starting.

  • 19 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    Yo yo,

    That made me laugh ;)

  • 20 ToonMatt // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    G, Why would you be tempted? We sold Carroll for £35m and they club never saw a penny of it? Only a fool would be happy if we sold any players.

  • 21 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    Not interested in people saying that we should sell this player for so much money or that player for that much money.

    I don’t care about how much money we bring in by selling our players. I don’t want us to sell any of our top, proven players who have already integrated with the squad.

    Why sell Ben Arfa for £20M and bring in a couple of foreign lads who need time to settle?

    I want all the top players to stay unless;
    a) they want to leave OR Pardew wants them out
    b) we get a big enough offer for them

  • 22 brighter // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    Hatem is god for us!

  • 23 Slank // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    Jazzyp

    Without Ben Arfa I think the formation would change.

    If Liverpool sold Suarez then they would possibly go for Ben Arfa to placate their fans but Ben Arfa isn’t a like for like replacement for Suarez. They are quite different.

    Whilst money may not be a problem I bet the Liverpool management would be wary about doing business with us again. Twice bitten and all that.

  • 24 browny // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    Would accept 25 million for him but come on will we actually see the money ? Not a chance we need to keep our better players and personally a think if we can get a season out of him without injuries we could have a fantastic player this season

  • 25 G // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    @20, I think you will find it has. It wasn’t spraffed out on the fist big name available, but the outlay is deffinately out there. Just have a look at the incoming transfers since we sold AC.

  • 26 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    Not long to go man lads and will be back to talking non-stop football.

    Tough times at the minute with all the unwanted controversy.

    Alot of disgruntled, frustrated bored Geordies.

  • 27 John Tudor // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    but toon matt
    the more we sell it’s like the less we replace
    it goes to show the people in charge are only in it for the money.

  • 28 Bring Back Laurent Robert // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Kets has become self-aware of his status on the blog and plays up to his persona now – no longer funny.

    I’d sell HBA for between £20-25m and the guarantee that he’ll be replaced immediately using all the money with 1 or 2 players – not gonna happen, so let’s hope he stays fit and has a stormer of a season.

  • 29 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Lilongwe

    They long ball stuff that was bandied around last season is a red herring. Our top creative players were injured or off form for most of the season. We need to get them fit, keep them fit and play to our strengths. We don’t have a team that is set up to play poor quality football, so it makes no sense that the manager would want to them to play that way, it just happened because they weren’t able to create chances the way they should.

    I want to see us sign players that the CL are interested in, but the player wants regular first team football for 2/3 years before getting to play regularly in a CL team.

  • 30 plana // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    The HBA, question should we stick or fold. The lad is blessed with great skill, but cursed with injury prolems. But hopefully under the new training and conditioning regime he may benefit. So i would keep him as players such as him are rare, especially here on Tyneside!

  • 31 browny // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    Totally agree John tudor we need to keep our big players as will get sold for 20 + then we will get 4 or 5 million to replace rest in his pocket

  • 32 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    TDS,
    I didn’t say anything about long ball…. Cisse is not a lone striker, which is how we set up at the minute. He can’t link play or hold up the ball. Bent is the same. The fact that they weren’t able to create chances the way they should is both tactics and the players. That statement reminds me of one of Pardews quotes “the opposition just wouldn’t let us create chances”.

    Your description there exactly fits what PEA was after, who did he choose in the end, CL football. That will always be the case. We have to get players who will develop, or players who are not CL quality but who improve us.

  • 33 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Grrrr…it does annoy me when people keep spitting out the same old garbage that MA sells players then pockets the money.

    If you slag off our owner so readily, how easy do you think it is for fans of other clubs to slag our club off?

    If you’re going to comment on what he does with the money LOOK AT THE ACCOUNTS!!!

    If you don’t, then believe those of us that have. the “Carroll money” has been reinvested in the club, the only money that MA has taken out of the club has been about £10M or so to pay off the interest free loan that he gave the club to keep our top players when we got relegated. He hasn’t actually made any profit from the club.

  • 34 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    TDS,
    I thought about mentioning that, but then realised I can’t be arsed to do that to death again! :-)

  • 35 G // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    @33, well said. Sick of that conversation as well.

  • 36 John Tudor // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    facts tds the clubs is his therefore, so are the players ,therefore the money is his to do with as he pleases thats fact

  • 37 Slank // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    G @ 35

    Me too.

  • 38 John Tudor // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    no-one is disputing the “accounts”

  • 39 jazzyp // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    slank
    ben arfa is a one off, he can do things in a game that mesmerize the whole stadium.he is by far our most gifted individual for flare.
    but is arfa such an important player to nufc as others we have on our books ??…..tricky one to answer.
    but if the ben arfa sale was to bring in say siem de jong-remy and sackho.
    would that not be classed as good business !!

  • 40 peasngravy // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Come back Torq, the blog needs youuuuuuuu

  • 41 asig01 // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    Agree

  • 42 ~Joke-innear~ // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    For 25mill I’d normally be tempted. But with JFK at the club… hell no.

    God only knows how many useless players he will bring in… christ since he has been here we have been linked with Bent and Gignac!… players who will hardly improve the club…

    I’d rather we keep Arfa.. then sell him for 25mill once we have someone that actually knows what a good player looks like… and not some has been that has out lived their 15 minute of fame.

  • 43 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    Lilongwe

    Sure, PEA chose CL football, but Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Cisse, Sissoko, Debuchy, MYM all chose us. I would imagine there were CL teams who would have wanted them, even some CL teams in the UK.

    Obviously PEA went to a big club in the CL and I don’t begrudge him that, but I don’t think that means that we need to scramble around to buy a player that Hull rejected because of a medical or a striker that Blackburn signed for £8M just 12 months ago.

    If Carr, JFK and the rest deem them full of potential then fair enough, but I haven’t seen anything to prove that.

    Murray (Palace), Vydra (Watford), Deeney (Watford), Wood (Leicester) also scored 20 or more goals in the Championship lase season.

    In recent year, the top 3 top scorers have included such leading lights as Billy Sharp, Danny Graham, Nicky Maynard, Gary Hooper and Sylvain Ebanks-Blake.

    None of whom are good enough for a club that wants to break into the top 6.

  • 44 Jamseyd24 // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    Another week has gone without a sigining. Really starting to get pi33ed off. Does anyone know of anything thats happening at our beloved club????

  • 45 John Tudor // Jul 19, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    at the end of the day if mr ashley want to sell his assets thats up to him but for god sake get replacements in first.
    we are playing catch up from god knows when.

  • 46 Ben3arfa // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    Do people believe Torq is the messiah or something? lol

    I would rather have Gomis than Gignac in all honesty, but if reports are anything to go by , we’re not getting either . Pathetic

  • 47 Bring Back Laurent Robert // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    Who suggested he pocketed the money? I can only see my post which you may have misconstrued as alluding to that, I wasn’t. Just saying how when we do sell players, they’re replaced belatedly.

    I fully understand that MA has a loan he wants back and that’s fair enough. I actually think that’s why we’re not going on extravagant sprees like other clubs, becuase he sees this added tv money as a chance to repay another chunk of the loan. If we can reduce the wage bill and at the same time have a net spend of around £10-15m, then I’d be happy for him to shave another £10-15m off the debt. The more comes off, the cheaper the club is to buy off him and hopefully that will attract a sugar daddy who wants to finally make us a powerhouse and be heralded for it!

  • 48 viv // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    Keep Hatem, and flog Liverpool Jonas, instead. Hatem the most gifted player at NUFC, since Ginola in his pomp!

  • 49 John Tudor // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    cardozo signs new deal, now he is off to fenerbahce

  • 50 Bring Back Laurent Robert // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    Ah, I see John also made a more obvious comment about the accounts – my bad!

  • 51 Rotonda heights // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    geordiemark

    you do when your only asset is pace and you’ve lost that through injuries. sad but true.

  • 52 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    Have a chat with fans of other clubs to see what they think of our club and our fans. If our own fans keep going on about what a laughing stock we are, can you imagine what the mackems say about us??

    I’ve never been on a Mackem fans site, but I wonder if the posts are like:

    “Di Canio out! We don’t need his facist bullsh*t here!”

    “What’s the point in signing 9 players already if they’re all rubbish? We need some quality!”

    “Damn American Ellis Short. Why can’t he come out in the media once in a while? SHORT OUT!”

    “We nearly got relegated last season and now we’re signing championship level players. Preparing for 2014/15???”

  • 53 John Tudor // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    there was talk that the loan is not reducing, how is this
    and as for belatedly some have not been replaced period

  • 54 jazzyp // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    viv
    couldn’t agree more.
    JONAS OUT !!

  • 55 Rotonda heights // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    He was described to us at NU-MAD by West Ham fans as: “a manager who makes an instant impact; but when he starts putting his OWN team together – that’s when you will get problems.
    “He is not very good at making signings.
    “He doesn’t buy a particular player to fit into a system like Sir Alex Ferguson did, be buys players and tries to fit them into the team without much thought as to any system at all.
    “He has to justify his buying, playing individuals out of position just to fit them in. And at times it becomes a mess.
    “We notice at Newcastle he has scouts abroad who suggest players, and he brings them in, but how many times has he seen that player play?
    “He basically gets what he’s given and tries to make them adapt.
    “A good manager gets the players HE wants – and Pardew doesn’t always have faith in his own judgement – so he lets others choose.
    “And that is why Joe Kinnear has been brought in, because Mike Ashley knows now Pardew hasn’t got a good eye for a player.
    “He was the same at West Ham. We couldn’t wait to get him out.”

  • 56 terencelim // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    @ToonDarnSarf You can certainly learn something from “those fans” – to focus on discussion about the club, rather than pointing fingers at other fans and keep moaning.

    If they complain about Ashley it means they’re at least talking about the club, it’s their opinions. Grow up man, focus on the club, not other fans.

  • 57 Burni // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    I’m sick. Every year we pray for a good transfer window. Every year we try to evaluate the lack of money being spent by tight Ashley. All teams around us are investing money. A few have even broken their transfer records. We however are selling. And looking for a f£%@ing goalkeeper!!!! Howay man. The reason why other teams are Investing is because of the ridiculous money being plowed in for TV deals!!! We are not investing…. Not a penny. And when we do…. I can just feel that we will get a player who’s alright but not class…. Like cabs or hba. Funnily enough the two players who are being linked with a move away. I hate supporting this club with this f£#@%ing clown in charge. He does good….. He kicks us fans in The face. He redeems…. He kicks harder. I’m sick. I just want some ambition. Other clubs have positive press. We don’t we have had naught but negative press….. Every god damn year. Joke.

    I feel better now

  • 58 John Tudor // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    #50
    this you mean
    at the end of the day if mr ashley want to sell his assets thats up to him but for god sake get replacements in first.
    we are playing catch up from god knows when.or this
    no-one is disputing the “accounts” get it right matey your bad
    please have a little respect to my posts

  • 59 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    Bring Back Laurent Robert

    See post 20, not yours. And read every single other page on here to see at least one comment like that…

    I agree with you too. I think MA has every right to get back the approx. £130M that he’s loaned the club, and when he does, then he’d make a profit if he sold the club for above what he bought it for originally.

    Honestly, if he did that and then sold us onto someone who wanted to continue to run the club sensibly but maybe use some of his own money to grow the club (as a gift, not a loan), then MA should go down as a legend of the club. Wishful thinking?

  • 60 viv // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    Just a couple of decent Strikers a decent Centre half and a winger and the Mags, will be soaring again. So get your finger out Joe!

  • 61 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    terencelim

    I thought the club is the fans?

    And isn’t it a bit ironic telling me (a fan) to stop talking about other fans?

  • 62 John Tudor // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    MA could go down as a legend but while he continually does what he does how many fans will think that

  • 63 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    TDS,
    The difference is, no CL teams actually bid for them. Marseille just wanted rid of Ben Arfa. They may have been looked at by top teams who then decided they weren’t good enough, but we didn’t have to ‘beat’ another club to the signing of them. The club have always said that they don’t want to be involved in bidding wars, or wage wars for players with agents.

    Naming other players who scored goals really means very little, I could name players who scored goals in the Prem, who weren’t good, therefore making Van Persie a poor player for only doing it twice.

  • 64 John Tudor // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    and as posted earlier how much has been taken from the loan, i think it just goes up

  • 65 scottydlb23 // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    25 Million, yes please! use that money for Scott Sinclair, John Guidetti and Remy.

  • 66 gazzaforever // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    People who are ok to sell Benny know shit about football, he is our key player and I still say that he will be the best player in the league this season. You will see.

  • 67 jazzyp // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    toondarnsarf
    I wouldn’t say the dark side have signed 9 rubbish players at all.
    altidore and giaccherini are top signings. the mackems have realized ther past mistakes of last season in the fact the squad just wasn’t good enough, and at least there doing something about it.
    sadly we are not.and by looking at player like bent and gignac. this will not move our club forward-but more of the ways of treading water.

  • 68 plana // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    Rubin Kazan, want Cisse so the plot thickens.

  • 69 nufc 11 // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    HBA on his day is a world beater, can be very fustrating player sometimes tho having siad that he is a player that can change a game ina flash, produce that piece of magic it would have to be a very good bid to get him, altho LFC cud be trying to unsettle him, knowing our lot they wud prob take Downing and cash…..

  • 70 scottydlb23 // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    Krul
    Debuchy – Collo – Mbiwa – Santon
    Sissoko – Cabaye
    Marveaux Sinclair
    Remy Cisse

  • 71 scottydlb23 // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    He is a key player but he is injured to much for me. If the offer was 25 million then i think that is a great price. If he stays fit he is an amazing player but i don’t think we have handled his injuries very well over the last couple of seasons.

  • 72 Sazzer // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    TDF
    You forget about Long, Holt, Le Fondre, Lambert probably others that have made the step up with out no problem.

    Also having Austin as our 4 th striker to bring on when we are hoofing it into box for 3,5 m or less is better than Campbell at this stage.

    Also both Austin and Rhodes have scored 20+ in every club every season.

    I’m not saying we shouldn’t try get De Jong, Volland, Doumbia or Gamerio for that money. But it’s far better paying 10 m £ on 23 year olds than 5-7 m £ for 27-29 year olds.

  • 73 evildick // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    MA will go down as a legendary tw@t

  • 74 evildick // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    if I thought we’d see 25m from the sale of Ben Arfa I’d be massively tempted… but I don’t think we would.

    also feel we should keep our settled (and best) players…

    getting excited now, not that long to go lads!

  • 75 Sinner // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    Agree sell him for 10m and buy Gomis another Ameobi like player and Bent.We’re going to win the league! :)

  • 76 toonluvva // Jul 19, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    This transfer window is fast becoming an absolute nightmare for us.

    All of the players we were being linked with prior to the window opening, PEA, Bony etc, have been snapped up by other teams. We have brought in a 16 year old!

    Worse still, other teams are expressing interest in our better players, Cabaye, Krul and Hatem. We might get a good price for them, but can JoKe replace them with players who are at least as good?

    Certainly signing Bent smacks of desperation, and in no way follows the Ashley model of buying younger players and upping their value.

    I know that players came and go, but I fear that in the pursuit of a quick profit, we end up ruining a promising squad that could with a few decent additions could have been chasing honours.

  • 77 gazzaforever // Jul 19, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    Now I understand why good people are leaving this blog, too many idiots like toondownarmysouth, jazzzyp, lilongeordie and more are killing it with stupid comments, good news I wont come here anymore. Hba isnt injury prone you bunch of cnuts, he had 2 big injuries and I hope Liverpool will snap it because you simply dont deserve him. Have fun watching obertan gouf jonas or kebab, I like talent, and this blog and this team is losing it

  • 78 geordie racer // Jul 19, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    Interesting price but there’s NO WAY Liverpool would get stung twice.
    I can’t see it happening.
    In any case, Ben Arfa really is our most creative player. We need to ensure he stays fit and motivated, and then we will see the very best from him.
    We certainly do not want to see him signing for a rival club, and setting the league on fire.
    I wouldn’t go so far as to say we need to keep him no matter what bid comes in, but Liverpool won’t pay massively over the odds again, so there’s no point in selling one of our best players.
    And even his biggest critics cannot deny his really is one of our best players!

  • 79 Premiership Manager // Jul 19, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    HBA is not a team player, takes on players when he could pass and is a liability in possession as he is prone to giving the ball away.

    Yes he can score wonder goals but the truth is he is a luxury we don’t need.

    We do need creative players however if Liverpool offered more than £10M or a swap for Stirling it would be a good deal for the club.

    Neither Cabaye or HBA are worth much more than £10M and it amazes me how some supporters can be so deluded. Next we’ll win the league!!!!

    Players like Fellini, Rooney and Suarez create goals, score goals and can inspire their team when they get the bit between their teeth. They don’t give the ball away but their assists and goal tallies come the end of the season.

    Cabaye and HBA’s tallies are way down compared with many teams and couldn’t touch the record of many former NUFC midfielders and forwards.

    There is no place for individuals in the squad, we need a team who can work and play for each other and until that is fixed we will continue to have problems




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