Liverpool Interested In Newcastle Winger – But For £25M?


There are reports in France that Liverpool will soon put in a bid for Newcastle’s French winger Hatem Ben Arfa, according to reports in France.

ben arfa weraing wonga yesterday

Ben Arfa – in training this summer

It’s not the first time Liverpool and manager Brendan Rodgers have been linked with the 13 times capped French International, who is a very popular player on Tyneside.

There was some news back in January that Liverpool were interested in the former Marseilles and Lyon winger, but at the time Ben Arfa had that bad hamstring injury, which kept him out for a lot of last season.

And it seems this news has come up after Liverpool missed out on Henrikh Mkhitaryan, who joined Borussia Dortmund from Shakhtar Donetsk.

The reports in France say that Ben Arfa would be open to the move to the Reds, but that would be a surprise, because he has said many times and said he wants to stay on Tyneside and play for the terrific supporters, and currently he is seeking anew deal at the club.

But of course you never know in football, and we suppose owner Mike Ashley would be willing to sell, but Mike is not daft and it would take an Andy Carroll type bid for Ashley to sell, and we think that would be around £25M.

And Liverpool should be unwilling to pay that amount for the French winger, which is why he will almost certainly stay on Tyneside this summer.

26 year-old Hatem has had a bit of an injury filled time on Tyneside, and in three seasons, since signing on from Marseilles, he has played 56 times with 11 goals and 10 assists.

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79 comments so far

  • G

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #1

    For 25M, I would be tempted if I’m honest. Much as I like the player, he is fit so rarely, that we are lucky to see him playing at all. If somebody offers that kind of cash, for a player who does not play often enough, then it has to be considered.

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  • geordie1892

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #2

    10-15m closer to the mark ED.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #3

    Lilongwe

    I’m not saying that I don’t want a championship striker, I’m saying I don’t understand why so many fans seem desperate for us to sign up one of these two. How would they react if we signed a 24 year old from the French second division for £8-10M?

    As for Bent…well we don’t really know do we? Lambert obviously didn’t fancy him for some reason or another, and that could be just playing style of personality. It seems to me that he couldn’t play Benteke and Bent with the way he wanted to play, so he played Benteke and the style was leant toward a player like Benteke. Bent should fit into our style more as he’s more similar to Cisse.

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  • yo-yo

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #4

    If this blog is like the Toon then we’ve followed a decent finish with a near relegation experience.
    We have had race hatred and white supremacy.
    We’ve had enough toys thrown out of prams to fill Toy-r-us in the Metro Centre.
    We’ve had bickering and persecution of the “ITKS”s.
    We’ve got trolls and kids.
    So the blog has finished about 16th in the EPL club blog tables. Like a lot of regulars I rarely post these days.

    Chance is now to get rid of the personal slights and slagging offs.
    New season means more footie related comments and less personal shite.

    We’ve lost some really good bloggers in the last few months since the end of the season. The blog is worse as a result.

    Beattie has been transferred to some Central Lancashire club (on his day posted like a HBA mazy run but sadly inconsistent and could put the boot in like Colo agin Liverpool)
    Looks like Kets is off to Fenerbace.(every side needs a joker)
    Even Ibiza is playing for the reserves these days.
    And sadly we’ve lost Torq – not only for his insights from inside the football world but also his analysis of players and games and I for one am serioussly P-d off he has been driven off here by some mouthy eejit.
    Indian’s form has dipped seriosuly and he has accepted a transfer to another league
    The other good news is that as Pardew hasn’t been playing competitive games the AP slaggers have been quieter esp the guy from Norway with the bad spelling which is the blog equivalent of halitosis. Catch yer breath guys we’ve signed nobody.
    Jeff – the word you seem to be groping for is ‘source’ not ‘sauce’.

    On football

    We need at least two forwards – a wide player like Remy and a more central striker/playmaker like Siem de Jong. I’d risk Charlie Austin as backup despite the shoulder injury as he is young enough to get over that and could be eased in anyway.
    Could live with Bent but he would be a compromise signing.

    I always thought of Moussa as a box to box mid but if he thinks he can take on the No 10 role then he needs to work up a partnership with Cisse on field. But at least he is adaptable.

    We do need backup in central defence but is must be a player who is nippt, and doesn’t get turned unlike Saylor and Colo.

    Finally we are going to get strong rumours if not bids for HBA and Yo and are just going to have to live with that. I would not want either to go even at £20m as the side is still gelling and starting afresh will set us back.

    I think we will get two possibly three younger players come through this next season but sadly Campbell will not be one of them. There just seems to be little space for the Jinky Johnston style players these days.
    I hope Pardew will go more for the 4-3-3 next season like he has said in interview and we still need new coaching in put not just a fitness coach.

    Anyway that’s my blog quota for today and the forseable

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  • geordiemark

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #5

    for 25 million id let him go am gonna get some stick here but he gives the ball away far to many times for my liking dont get me wrong hes an excellent player but yeah for 25 million id let him go

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  • rainrix

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #6

    Can see them offering about 10 15 mil as above. But no doubt that’ll be rejected as we’re holding out for stupid money for everyone according to JK.

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  • Slank

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #7

    Liverpool,

    What’s that old saying ‘once bitten twice shy ‘

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  • geordiemark

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #8

    ToonDarnSarf

    id give bent a go you dont come a bad player overnight

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  • jazzyp

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #9

    g
    a cracking player on his day no doubt, but would a fit marveuax or vuckic be able to slot into his role.
    but my opinion is that we should not be looking to sell our best players, only to strengthen. sadly we are doing neither !!

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #10

    Slank

    Exactly. I’d forgotten about Wickham. Ok, maybe we should have got Moses when we had the chance, but I think he went for more first team football at Wigan, which is fair. He got his big move anyway.

    As long as we sign at least one striker (and it’s not someone like Kuqi!), then I’ll be happy. We’ve got to trust Carr, Pardew, JFK and the rest to do the jobs that they’re hired to do. I may not agree with every decision, but I’ll get behind whichever striker they sign.

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #11

    yoyo

    *forseeable tehe 😉

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #12

    geordiemark

    Unless your name is Michael Owen?

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  • John Tudor

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #13

    i take it eejit as being idiot and sauce is a quite accepted term as is sprout as in my vegetables sprout up not spout up

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  • John Tudor

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #14

    no offence intended yo-yo

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  • geordiemark

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #15

    ToonDarnSarf

    true haha but bent knows where the net is hes scored some really good goals over the years and hes miles ahead of shola so why not give the bloke a chance and he might just score a hatrick agaisnt the scum at the stadium of shite 🙂

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  • roblee7

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #16

    Speaking of seeing footballers at the pictures, one of my best experiences ever…our school was given some tickets for the premier of film called somethjng about ‘the titans’ or sonething, was about american football and had friendzel washington in it if I remember rightly. ..wasnt that good. Anyway, sitting in the row in front of us was sir bobby and his wife, and a load of the players…remember seeing lua lua, ameobi, bellamy, dyer and jenas and think peter ramage and a couple of youngsters. To the point, got bobbys autograph after and have to say he was the most humble, most pleasant character iv ever met from the football world.been lucky enough to meet him a couple of times and makes me tearful to this day just thinking of the man…and to think where we are now with people like joe kinnear at the club….not to mention we had that turd dennis wise for a most inpleasant period at the club…true legend sir bobby!

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  • G

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #17

    yo-yo, good post up there mate, bit of an epic, and I agree with most of what you have said up there. I will also miss Torq’s informative posts, and even Ket’s often hilarious posts. As for Ibiza playing for the reserves, lets be honest, his form has dipped significantly in the last 12 months, so it was to be expected.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #18

    TDS,
    But we don’t play to Cisse’s strengths, so he wouldn’t suit in that case.

    Your comment about the French second division doesn’t really hold water as it is a much poorer standard, as you well know.

    Austin is going for closer to £3million due to him being out of contract next season. He failed a medical at Hull due to a shoulder problem that hasn’t caused him to miss games in roughly 3 years. He can hold the ball up, is strong, can finish with feet and is good in the air.

    Rhodes has been prolific for years now. Why did he go to Blackburn? Who knows, they certainly expected to come straight back up, and had it not been for Rhodes they could have gone down again.

    Bent could well be personality, but I’d say it is the fact he isn’t actually all that good anymore. He still managed 24 appearances last year, so wasn’t like Lambert wasn’t giving him any chance. His attitude stinks, and has caused issues at pretty much every club he has been at. 29 years old, and declining in ability, or 24 year olds improving and would work their socks off for a chance. Not to mention that they would be much less likely to sulk if not starting.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #19

    Yo yo,

    That made me laugh 😉

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  • ToonMatt

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #20

    G, Why would you be tempted? We sold Carroll for £35m and they club never saw a penny of it? Only a fool would be happy if we sold any players.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #21

    Not interested in people saying that we should sell this player for so much money or that player for that much money.

    I don’t care about how much money we bring in by selling our players. I don’t want us to sell any of our top, proven players who have already integrated with the squad.

    Why sell Ben Arfa for £20M and bring in a couple of foreign lads who need time to settle?

    I want all the top players to stay unless;
    a) they want to leave OR Pardew wants them out
    b) we get a big enough offer for them

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  • brighter

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #22

    Hatem is god for us!

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  • Slank

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #23

    Jazzyp

    Without Ben Arfa I think the formation would change.

    If Liverpool sold Suarez then they would possibly go for Ben Arfa to placate their fans but Ben Arfa isn’t a like for like replacement for Suarez. They are quite different.

    Whilst money may not be a problem I bet the Liverpool management would be wary about doing business with us again. Twice bitten and all that.

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  • browny

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #24

    Would accept 25 million for him but come on will we actually see the money ? Not a chance we need to keep our better players and personally a think if we can get a season out of him without injuries we could have a fantastic player this season

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  • G

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #25

    @20, I think you will find it has. It wasn’t spraffed out on the fist big name available, but the outlay is deffinately out there. Just have a look at the incoming transfers since we sold AC.

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  • Toon-Prodigy

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #26

    Not long to go man lads and will be back to talking non-stop football.

    Tough times at the minute with all the unwanted controversy.

    Alot of disgruntled, frustrated bored Geordies.

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  • John Tudor

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #27

    but toon matt
    the more we sell it’s like the less we replace
    it goes to show the people in charge are only in it for the money.

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  • Bring Back Laurent Robert

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #28

    Kets has become self-aware of his status on the blog and plays up to his persona now – no longer funny.

    I’d sell HBA for between £20-25m and the guarantee that he’ll be replaced immediately using all the money with 1 or 2 players – not gonna happen, so let’s hope he stays fit and has a stormer of a season.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #29

    Lilongwe

    They long ball stuff that was bandied around last season is a red herring. Our top creative players were injured or off form for most of the season. We need to get them fit, keep them fit and play to our strengths. We don’t have a team that is set up to play poor quality football, so it makes no sense that the manager would want to them to play that way, it just happened because they weren’t able to create chances the way they should.

    I want to see us sign players that the CL are interested in, but the player wants regular first team football for 2/3 years before getting to play regularly in a CL team.

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  • plana

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #30

    The HBA, question should we stick or fold. The lad is blessed with great skill, but cursed with injury prolems. But hopefully under the new training and conditioning regime he may benefit. So i would keep him as players such as him are rare, especially here on Tyneside!

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  • browny

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #31

    Totally agree John tudor we need to keep our big players as will get sold for 20 + then we will get 4 or 5 million to replace rest in his pocket

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #32

    TDS,
    I didn’t say anything about long ball…. Cisse is not a lone striker, which is how we set up at the minute. He can’t link play or hold up the ball. Bent is the same. The fact that they weren’t able to create chances the way they should is both tactics and the players. That statement reminds me of one of Pardews quotes “the opposition just wouldn’t let us create chances”.

    Your description there exactly fits what PEA was after, who did he choose in the end, CL football. That will always be the case. We have to get players who will develop, or players who are not CL quality but who improve us.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #33

    Grrrr…it does annoy me when people keep spitting out the same old garbage that MA sells players then pockets the money.

    If you slag off our owner so readily, how easy do you think it is for fans of other clubs to slag our club off?

    If you’re going to comment on what he does with the money LOOK AT THE ACCOUNTS!!!

    If you don’t, then believe those of us that have. the “Carroll money” has been reinvested in the club, the only money that MA has taken out of the club has been about £10M or so to pay off the interest free loan that he gave the club to keep our top players when we got relegated. He hasn’t actually made any profit from the club.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #34

    TDS,
    I thought about mentioning that, but then realised I can’t be arsed to do that to death again! 🙂

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  • G

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #35

    @33, well said. Sick of that conversation as well.

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  • John Tudor

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #36

    facts tds the clubs is his therefore, so are the players ,therefore the money is his to do with as he pleases thats fact

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  • Slank

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #37

    G @ 35

    Me too.

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  • John Tudor

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #38

    no-one is disputing the “accounts”

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  • jazzyp

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #39

    slank
    ben arfa is a one off, he can do things in a game that mesmerize the whole stadium.he is by far our most gifted individual for flare.
    but is arfa such an important player to nufc as others we have on our books ??…..tricky one to answer.
    but if the ben arfa sale was to bring in say siem de jong-remy and sackho.
    would that not be classed as good business !!

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  • peasngravy

    Jul 19, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #40

    Come back Torq, the blog needs youuuuuuuu

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