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Joe Kinnear – An Unsettling Influence At Newcastle

10:27 pm, Sunday, July 21st, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 146 Comments

With the news today that Joe Kinnear is about to appoint Mick Harford, who is a coach, as his assistant, it’s not clear to us what Joe is doing, when Alan Pardew is in charge of all coaching at the club.

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Joe Kinnear – unsettling influence at Newcastle

We have to remember that when Joe was appointed as the Director of football in early 2001 at Luton Town, when the club were in relegation trouble, he immediately demoted the manager Lil Fuccillo and appointed himself as manager of the team – but Luton were still relegated that May.

One good question to ask at Newcastle now, is who is in charge of the day-to-day operations, since Managing Director Derek LLambias resigned in protest at Kinnear’s appointment.

And the answer from the club will probably be that it’s being shared between Joe and club Secretary Lee Charnley and maybe some others, but shared responsibilities never work well in an organization.

And it’s always good to have clear lines of responsibility and one person in charge – and then if things go wrong you have one neck to wring – as the saying goes. :D.

The news today is unsettling for Newcastle, and it comes at a bad time, and seems to put even more pressure on manager Alan Pardew.

Joe can be successful at Newcastle, but only if he concentrates on the job he was hired for – getting transfer targets into the club and moving players out, and we still haven’t got one senior player through the door this summer, and that’s not good, although there’s still plenty of time left.

The appointment of Joe Kinnear was met with some dismay by Newcastle fans, and the move to appoint his pal Mick Hartford will have fans wondering what he’s up to.

We suppose it could be to have Hartford work with him on transfers and the like, since Mick is a football person, but Joe seems to be an unsettling influence at the Tyneside club – ever since he arrived.

It would also be nice if Hartford is indeed hired, that Newcastle tell the fans how he fits into the organization, and what job he’ll be doing.

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146 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Heslop Toon // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    Yet another example of how not to run a football club. What does a director of football’s assistant even do?

  • 2 james589 // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    Why do I increasingly get the feeling this guy is bringing in a backroom team around him before a Pardew ousting?

    He has failed to deliver any first team players as yet and we are less than 4 weeks from the start of the new season. The majority of other clubs have had key signings in for weeks already to allow time to train and gel with the squad around them, but yet again we’re lagging behind.

    What on earth is going on at the club and why is Kinnear being allowed to hire his mates for roles which previously didn’t exist? In any other business you have a clearly defined organisational structure, and everyone knows their responsibilities and roles. At our club it seems like they make it up as they go along. So far as I’m aware, Ashley runs a tight ship within his Sports Direct business, so I’m surprised at these developments.

    Need some players in fast to calm everyone down I think.

  • 3 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    I would like to hear exactly what MH job actually is.As ive not heard of an assistant DOF.Not anywhere in world football.
    I might be wrong maybe someone could enligten me.

    As for MH exacty how is he sutible whats he ever done apart from say he hates us?
    At millwall and Luton etc exactly what did he do?
    Imho his only asset is he knows JK,so much for JKs epic footballing contacts.
    Will MH help JK find a striker?does MH actually care what we do?

  • 4 stan anderson // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:39 PM

    They would,nt have a clue how to run a football club.they have had a go already and failed.Jobs for the boys at the supporters expense

  • 5 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    Does MA think the crowd are going to accept JK/MH standing on the touchline?
    They might think they are “tough guys” but do they think either are going to stand infront of 50,000 geordies and everything will be fine?

    They are living in cloud cockoo land

  • 6 shgrz // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:41 PM

    As much as I used to like reading this blog, I get fed up that every article is so negative!!

  • 7 Toon Avenger // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    The sad thing is that most of you will accept it if we have a half decent season.

  • 8 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:43 PM

    Its a big ground,he has people who have payed to see the match.
    He hasnt seen how bad it used to be up here and im afraid we might see it again.

    Could they actually choose a worse pairing to step in if they decide to sack AP
    A guy thats insulted us,nearly died and got us religated with a mackem as his assistant?

  • 9 lesh // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:47 PM

    By nature I’m a cynic and ordinarily think of conspiracy. But, the appointment of Kinnear and now Harford make me seriously wonder, nay believe that we’re witnessing Ashley letting Kinnear have free rein to do as he likes.

    Given his general demeanour, I wouldn’t trust him to run a raffle let alone jeoparduse my investment as Ashley seems to be doing.

    Kinnear is a danger to himself and should be sent packing!

  • 10 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    Would you trust JK and MH with 280m ish of your money?

  • 11 microbar // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    Mick Hartford is ashleys doing he is ramping up the pressure on AP

  • 12 jordijohnty // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    club has become a waste of my time. 40 years of emotional involvement for what?

  • 13 stan anderson // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    So that is our future when Pardew is forced out JFK and a Mackem nobody.What next eh.

  • 14 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    So MH is meant to chase AP without MA spending big?

    If he cant see AP aint KK hes utterly blind.AP isnt going to resign ever.

    Im no billionaire but its obvious,if MA cant see that hes a total nutjob.

  • 15 jordijohnty // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    Accept crap Pardew, or face the ashley imposed consequences. How exciting was the tour de france over the last 3 weeks?

  • 16 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:59 PM

    You can just see it,JK cant stand there on the touchline,so they send out MH to stand as manager at SJP pretending he wants to win games…

    Its not funny is it.

    How far can people throw coins?

  • 17 shaunmc // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:01 PM

    It’s all a ploy to try and force pardew out I fear, as much as I love Newcastle I hope he clings on for as long as possible till he’s either sacked or pushed aside just so he can get the large payout and irritate Ashley more, really thought Ashley had learned his lesson on how to run a club but I guess not

  • 18 spitfire_ // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    Heslop Toon

    Take a coffee for his master… do his laundry… do the master’s mrs when he is on duty… stuff like this I guess.

  • 19 colwell // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:04 PM

    At what point do us fans say enough is enough? Is Ash trying to p1ss us off that much to walk away or what?

  • 20 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:04 PM

    This may lead ,for the first time in the history of the club,a mackem standing as manager at SJP

    MA thinks thats goingto be a good thing?

  • 21 spitfire_ // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:04 PM

    In fact the only way for Pardew to win my approval is to resign… I bet after him will came more mediocre manager than him but AP will show some dignity… at this point he look more spinless than ever… to tolerate all this crap.

  • 22 Bring Back Laurent Robert // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    We are through the looking-glass. All the world is a stage and St James’ Park is the nominated location for the football club spoof!

  • 23 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    I wonder if i could interest MA in some timeshares?

  • 24 santonthenewmaldini // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:07 PM

    We are getting relegated and probably going to finish about 20 points behind the Mackems get used to the idea now so it wont be such a shock in May

  • 25 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:07 PM

    AP if he quits will wave goodby to millions upon millions.He isnt ever going to earn that somewhere else is he.

    He wont quit,the only way he will is if MA hands him a brown envelope and says pretend you quit.

  • 26 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    Still no striker.Not even close to a striker.
    All we get its this $hit.

  • 27 Galtierez // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:12 PM

    PSG to bid for Cabaye this week.

  • 28 wynsleap // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    Just what is going to make Toon fans stay away from St. James Park until this regime disappears?
    How much more c**p have we go to put up with before decent fans say enough is enough?
    Or do we have to listen to the likes of Bill-son reminding us of how it is all part of the Master’s strategy or Pawl250 asking us all to ‘calm down’?
    In 55 years of supporting this club I have never been so
    disgusted in how it has been run or by the individuals running it.
    Makes my stomach turn.
    (By the way – the guy is called Mick HARFORD).

  • 29 luke.r // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    There has to be something that us fans can do stop this a our club. It is ridiculous that the club we all love gets treated like a game of chess. We should sort of a petition or sort a protest or something!!!

  • 30 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    We have Wonga/JK/MH/MA/AP and a team playing pre historic hoof ball
    Whats the problem?

  • 31 stan anderson // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    Fully agree with your comment WYNSLEAPIve had a bellyful of these cretans destroying the club i have loved all my life

  • 32 Mister Tuff // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:32 PM

    Mick Harford was always known as a football hardman -not a newspaper hardman – a proper hardman who could take care of himself easily – in punch ups etc. I suspect that his first job will be to act as JK’s “muscle” if he turn up at the next supporters meeting at the Labour Club in Newcastle.

  • 33 wolfshead@toon // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    get a grip ffs

  • 34 jordijohnty // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    Get ready for relegation, for I am sure it will come….

  • 35 TimKrulFan // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    It’s going to be a dreadful season we will do nothing until fat ash is gone.

  • 36 ~Joke-innear~ // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:44 PM

    Lads, I don’t know what all this talk about us not signing everyone is about…

    With Kinnear beginning his plot to take over from Pardew, we will end up with a whole new squad before the end of the season.

    I heard we were after some lads called,

    Jim Cruel – Young and upcoming keeper,
    Moustachio Hairdrya – Upcoming left back
    Phantisimo Kooliochini – A CB
    Mah Po Ameoba – Another CB
    Matteo Da-Boushy – RB
    Cheese Toastie – CDM
    Onion A. Knitter – CM

    Can’t really remember who else we have been linked with… but I know its more then enough to replace the whole squad..

  • 37 paul24 // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    @wynsleap

    Its nice to see some people have the right idea. All these idiots who still go to matches and hold up banners saying ‘support the team, not the regime’ need to get this into there thick skulls, by going to matches you are supporting the regime!.

  • 38 ~Joke-innear~ // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    Forgot about Yawn GoodFren and Bean Salsa

  • 39 wynsleap // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:52 PM

    Too simple for some, Paul.
    Because they need their weekly ‘fix’ they are showing they’re happy with whatever this owner throws at them (usually s**t!). Seeing the bigger picture, ie long term gain, doesn’t seem to register.

  • 40 jordijohnty // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    I would not run Sunnerland the way our club is being run by these knobs. They are an insult to all real football fans

  • 41 Korzic // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    In other news, we apparently got Cat 1 academy status.

    http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2013-14/jul/barclays-u21-premier-league-fixtures.html

    Quote from article

    There will be one national division, the Barclays Under-21 Premier League, comprised of 22 Category 1 Academies.
    The Academies involved are: Lots of clubs not worth mentioning, —-Newcastle United—-, more clubs not worth mentioning

  • 42 Mister Tuff // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    you also missed out Adam the Fondler.

  • 43 stuart no9 // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    i said it 2 years ago and i will say it again- the only way to get this lot out is to boycott every game untill he gets it into his thick head , he is not wanted here. If we had boycotted when we should have – we wouldnt be in this mess now, and for you lot who say ” cent do that must support the team bo..ocks, get a grip, we have to get them out and that is the only way to do it. If anybody else has a better idea , i would love to hear it

  • 44 jordijohnty // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    Give the club up for a season to get it back for a lifetime

  • 45 Bearsize // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    Harford is jfk’s front man when the going gets tough and he cant come into the city. Its quite clear they are trying to shaft pards. Cant pards speak to the LMA? I know pards has his flaws but i am starting to feel sorry for him. Surely pards knows whats happening

  • 46 p // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:12 AM

    Clearly it does not look like a world beating backroom team is being assembled.

    Additionally, players may leave and some may come in, though none are likely to be high calibre.

    One of the few plus factors is that the january signings have had more time to settle and learn English – that was obviously a major issue last season.

    We do have to wait and see but I must say it is hard to be optimistic.

    Again, too may drama queens on here. Make a decision on signings at the end of the summer (though by all means point out it would have been better to have got people in earlier). Then make decision on the general running of the club after the first 10 games.

    If you do not like what you see, do not go to games, do not spend money on merchandise and do not spend money at sports direct.

    JFK and retaining Pardew are both mistakes in my opinion but only time will prove it.

  • 47 pawl250 // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    WHY ARE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT A PRE SEASON MATCH YESTERDAY?!

    15 July 2011 Darlington 0 – 2 Newcastle United Darlington [show]
    20 July 2011 Sporting Kansas City 0 – 0 Newcastle United Kansas City, Kansas, United States [show]
    23 July 2011 Orlando City 1 – 0 Newcastle United Orlando, Florida, United States [show]
    26 July 2011 Columbus Crew 0 – 3 Newcastle United Columbus, Ohio, United States [show]
    31 July 2011 Leeds United 3 – 2 Newcastle United

    The above shows our pre season the season we finished 5th, this means absolute zero, its all abou fitness nothing more.

    STOP COMPLAINING!!!! GOD!!!! ALL YOU DO IS MOAN!!!

    This is directed at the obvious moaners constantly about a pre season game!!

    As for this JFK assistant so what?! HOW does it effect you? Wait and see all you lot do is complain!!

  • 48 jordijohnty // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:19 AM

    Pardew is a crap manager, always was, always will be. But the likely alternative should the sword fall, is so unpalatable, I shudder at the consequence

  • 49 jordijohnty // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:21 AM

    pawl250, do you not understand what is going on behind the scenes?

  • 50 pawl250 // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:22 AM

    stuart

    because bankrupting our team is going to help?

    Forcing us to sell our best players and possibly get relegated…. right? You are a smart egg bless you, must be proud having all this knowledge and no after thought to the consequences a boycott would do to a PL club!

    Typical people blabbing not understanding the whole situation. Its not just black and white, good or bad, there is so many layers of who that would effect including people working in around the club, such as shop assistants, waiters, receptionists, admin etc.

    Small minded people.

  • 51 pawl250 // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    Jordi

    Neither do you!!!

    YOU ALL ASSUME you do!

    No one does, just wait and see what happens all you lot do is moan and groan, if I was MA and I was petty I would tell you lot to shove it!

    I am a billionaire who will this effect more, you the supporters or me the person with so much money I could burn it and still be well off!

    I could sell all my assets tomorrow, leave the club in dissarray and get most of my money back from those sold.

    Why should I pay money into a club people complain about ALL the time?! NO matter what he does he will never win,

    BUT mark my words, people need to be careful what they say and do, how they act because as you have all read he is a ruthless guy, he does not care about us.

    Infact he may even spite us in the future if you lot are not careful!!

  • 52 jonobbad // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:26 AM

    Pawl
    Its not the result most of us are bothered about.
    Its the useless tactics we had to put up for all of last season being used again.
    Pardew didnt learn from his mistakes in over 40 games last season and its carrying on now.
    surely pre season is the best tine to experiment.
    Do you really want to see the same brand of football as last year. I abd most others dont, hence the moaning.
    There are a few extremists screaming relegation but when you see all the teams that were around us last year strengthening and we are standing still again it is very worrying.
    And quit with the caps lock you look like a schoolkid.

  • 53 jordijohnty // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    Ive seen the club slide from mediocrity to crisis and back for so long I can’t remember the last time something positive came out of this club

  • 54 jonobbad // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:29 AM

    Ashley cares about one thing…money.
    And any idiot thinking if we be nice to him he might start pumping money in grow up.
    That ship has sailed and was probably never in the harbour in the first place.
    Nufc wont be getting any of my hard earned cash until hes gone.
    Id advise everyone else to do the same.

  • 55 stuart no9 // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    paw1250 your an idiot -f..ck off

  • 56 Laurent Robert 32 // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    If Pardew goes, then even if the others go in his place then they’ll want to be ousted quickly by the fans.

    As this is getting worse and worse, Ashley needs to go, but who will buy the club? That’s the problem.

  • 57 pawl250 // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:34 AM

    Jono

    MAKE ME! WHAT YOU GOING TO DO? TELL MY MOMMY?

    I will use caps lock when I wish, thank you very much.

    As for tactics you along with half the bloggers on here (not all) are hardly master tacticians yourself!

    These people are the ones that go see a pianist and complain that he made a mistake, BUT could never actually do it themselves!

    You all assume you can do the job, but you would not have a clue how to run, manage a football club.

    I see people talking about Lukaku, a player Cheslea paid 20m+ for a couple of seasons ago, scoring 17 goals in the PL for West Brom on loan and we are magically able to sign him for 15m!!

    LOL MAKE ME LAUGH!

    What do you lot eat and drink to be so delusional!!! We will never in 10000000000000000000 million years see Lukaku signed for 15m this seaoson, try 30m plus! The lad is a bairn, he has another 10-12 years of his career to look forward to why would Chelsea sell that?!

    DELUSIONAL!

    Then you all have the ability to make players play like Barcelona, oh if it was so simple EVERY team would do it, can you not comprehend that?! We play within our means, accept it!

    You all think we are this massive club, we are very average! We are arguably bigger than those around us, but seriously we are not a big club, we are an average club with a big following, so big we dont even sell out our games, or have a season ticket waiting list.

    Arsenal have thousands of people waiting, people wait for 14 years without having the option to buy!

    THAT IS A BIG CLUB!

    Accept it, move on.

  • 58 believeintoon // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    I’m a nufc fan from Japan,good to see you guys.Been reading this blog for a long time,but it’s my first post.I always wanted to ask you guys something.

    I really want this disastrous situation to change( I think you guys as well),but seeing from a distance it looks like you guys never take any action and just keep moaning on this blog or somewhere else. Why not take any action? For example refuse to go to the match. Maybe thats because you don’t want to make the players worry or just want to see the match, but that policy hasn’t changed this situation and it’s been a long time for this disastrous time.

    Maybe I’m ignorance about what’s going on between the supporters and your thoughts,but I just thought why not take any action. Although I don’t know whether that will be the best solution. I want to hear your thoughts.Thank you for reading.

  • 59 pawl250 // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    stuart no9

    You prove my point at how much of a mindless biggot you are!

    Classic response well done!

  • 60 Laurent Robert 32 // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    If you’d suggested these course of events previously, the person you told would laugh at you and tell you all the reasons why it wouldn’t happen.

    But it is happening, and it is downright diabolical.

  • 61 hadthetshirt // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    Were doomed Capt.Manwairing were doomed
    wtf is going on here. ashley is def. a mackem.I have tried and tried to understand where he is coming from,but yes most of you are right cloud feckin cuckoo land

    bent last day of window.
    oh by the way where have all these ITK’s gone pmfsl

  • 62 pawl250 // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    Jono -

    If we be nice to him he will put money in?!

    WHERE DID I SAY THAT?!

    Twisting words, to suit your needs. MA will never put money in because he is a business man, I am simply implying he holds the key to self destruct of our beloved club, if it were to simply go POOF! it would be a mere ping in his bank balance,

    We would all be heart broken…..

    My point was simply, be careful what you wish for!

  • 63 Laurent Robert 32 // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    Ashley has said at the start that he’ll spend £20million a season. This season we’ve got in…

  • 64 jonobbad // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    Pawl
    Wow. Good one. Bet your mommy is proud.
    You dont need to be a master tactician to know our tactics are utter crap. Im not going to go through all the reasons because 99% of bloggers see it week in week out with their own eyes.
    You can see this too youre just being a d1ck.

  • 65 stuart no9 // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    paw1250@57 “we are average” yeah we are , but its cretins like you who make us , and are happy for us to be average, as i said before- f.ck off.

  • 66 jonobbad // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    Wheres your name on that post pawl.
    Twisting words to suit youre needs eh?

  • 67 jonobbad // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:46 AM

    I wish for a new owner.

    Ashley is the worst in my lifetime ( Hall/Shepherd/Ashley )

    Without doubt.

  • 68 pawl250 // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:47 AM

    I will show you what fans know about football….

    Alan Shearer as manager LOL

    Games 8 Wins 1 Draws 2 Losses 5

    Oh but we want him back…. He is infact ONE of the reasons we got relegated, FACT he had 8 games to stay up, and won 1!

    Class manager, fans choice! WOOT!

    Kevin Keegan, our messiah, the has been cry baby who leaves when the going gets tough! IN EVERY JOB HE HAS HAD! Man City, Fulham, Newcastle, England!

    Games 21 Won 6 Draw 6 Loss 9

    Fans choice, WOOT!

    YET YOU ALL COMPLAIN OVER PARDEW

    Games 120 Won 44 Draw 32 Loss 44

    Hardly the worst record, but we all want him out……. yet he has probably had to deal with 20x more flak than Keegan and Shearer will have ever had to deal with in their playing career/manager simply because he is not the fans choice…..

    He also got us 5th position, something which has not been done in a good few years always the same teams getting top 7 really

    Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City

    Liverpool, Spurs, Everton

    THEN EVERYONE ELSE. He broke that mold, and is hated for it. The accomplishment itself is unbelievable and was rightly so manger of the year, something Shearer will on have a wet dream of winning.

    Seriously, and I am the one told to grow up because our saviours are not running the club LOL

  • 69 jonobbad // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:51 AM

    Pawl

    What about Sir Bobby, Kk first stint or even hughton.
    Just picking the worst examples to fit your argument.
    But pardew doesnt learn from his mistakes.
    We can all see it so why cant he?
    Still its all down to fatty for employing him and giving him an 8 year deal.

  • 70 MidtownMagpie // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:52 AM

    Pawl telling it as it is, quite the overreaction from a pre-season match

  • 71 jonobbad // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:54 AM

    Pardew is hated for getting us 5th?
    What a ridiculous thing to say.
    Pardew is disliked because of many reasons but one of them is not ‘for breaking the mold’ and getting us 5th.
    No i cant respond anymore because you are talking utter crap.

  • 72 pawl250 // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    Jono – Clearly directed towards me, to say otherwise then fair play, you clearly cannot take any ownership of an argument.

    We as a club have not had a decent manager since Bobby Robson.

    Our chairman under Freddy Shepard was doomed to fail, we would have been the next Pompey/Leeds! TRUE!

    Ours fans urged for Keegan and Shearer both delivered by the board and flopped.

    He then appointed a manager, who got us to 5th, then had a horrible injury plagued season to the point 17 year olds occupied the bench, and then gets slated for it, after getting us to a quarter final of the EL, again a decent achievement given his backing in the summer.

    THEN people want him out?!

    Fans know nothing about football, I am not happy being average stuart you little chav, you simply cannot will a team without the backing of the supporters globally like Man Utd to compete, its not accepting average, its merely being realistic!

    Man City have billions of pounds spent on a team, won a handful of trophies, way to go well done, only a team that follows suit has a chance to compete.

    MA clearly does not want to do that accept it, move on. We will always be average our best chance of finishing top 4 has gone, and we will be lucky to finish top 6 in the next 10 years unless serious money is spent.

    Clearly not going to happen, MA owns the club, accept it, or stop supporting it simple. Stop moaning its not helping anyone!

  • 73 p // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:56 AM

    effing hell, calm down girls, be civil

  • 74 jonobbad // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:58 AM

    Keegan got us promoted along with man city and fulham.
    And yes he quit but he has still acheived more than pardew ever has.
    Oh but i forgot, pardew is a winner because he won the paint trophy.

  • 75 archaeomag // Jul 22, 2013 at 12:59 AM

    We don’t own the club, we don’t choose the manager, don’t buy the players, we don’t pick the team, and we don’t have a say in substitutions – we are fans – and we should be used to that by now.
    Most football clubs seem to work that way.

  • 76 jonobbad // Jul 22, 2013 at 1:01 AM

    Pawl

    Actually there is nothing to back up your TRUE statement about us going like leeds or portsmouth.
    If you are going to present something as true, at least check it is first.
    Somebody said earlier, all the people for ashley, base their opinions on assumptions whereas everyone against base it on what has happened so far.

  • 77 pawl250 // Jul 22, 2013 at 1:04 AM

    Jono

    KK first stint, we bought players for alot of money, to compete with the big boys. STILL we won nowt!

    AND its was easier to do those days, more of a level playing field. Not like today were likes of Man City, Utd, Chelsea can buy any player for any amount of money….

    I.e. Bale at Spurs, makes them better than average, take him away will struggle top 6!! Yet Man Utd or some team in the next year or so will take him away for stupid money.

    Cannot compete simple.

    Bobby didn’t compete he built a solid team, and competed for top 4, not top place. We had a very good season were it could have went that way but again different era,

    Chris Hughton, as now would have been stuck in mediocrity, and had he finished like Pardew 5th, then 16th people would be doing the same today, HUGHTON OUT! he would have never finished 5th though! Infact he was long ball master, it was hoof to Carroll, very similar to how we play now! But you liked that right??? lol

    Different time, era and well game in all honesty. Chelsea Utd, City will win the title this year why,…… because they have the best players that maybe 1 or 2 of them could buy our and the majority of PL teams entire squads!!!

    2 players wages could fund our entire starting 11, its crazy money and wasting money for what? Personal glory?!

    As stated MA is a business man, and if it were so simple to spend money like those mentioned why wouldnt everyone do it?!

    Fact is football is dead, we are average, we are and always will be unless some russian tycoon bored of his little tarts and boats comes along and wants to play football manager in real life….. that has happened twice in what?! 20 years ?!

    And FFP rules would also restrict another from doing so, unless of course we change sponsorship and effectively cheat like City are doing!!

  • 78 jonobbad // Jul 22, 2013 at 1:07 AM

    Final post

    Reasons i would have liked pardew gone:

    Terrible style of football
    Playing favourites instead of players in form
    Worst goals conceded in the prem in our history
    Terrible set plays/pieces
    Predictable and uneffective substitutions
    Sitting on slender leads against weaker opposition
    Setting up to defend at home when we need points desperately.

    If you want to argue pawl then argue those points.

  • 79 archaeomag // Jul 22, 2013 at 1:08 AM

    @jonobbad
    What you can say is that the club was in a bad way FFS had borrowed heavily against future income streams @ at a time when a success on the pitch was reducing cash flow.
    {we were in the shit}

  • 80 pawl250 // Jul 22, 2013 at 1:10 AM

    Jono -

    Keegan did everything right first time, but his 2nd appointment was fans wishing he was as hungry and actually up to date with the game as he was then!

    A JOKE! Infact a bigger joke than Joe Kinnear!

    He was missing from football and did the runner on those same clubs he got promoted cos he could not hack the competition!

    He is a cry baby, a deserter!

    The only stand up gentleman of a manager we have had in my time being alive is Bobby Robson….. Keegan just leaves when he feels trouble is in paradise or doesnt get his way!

    You are blind for his accomplishments in the 90′s but infact what accomplishments what did he win? NOTHING!

    He is the closest we have come, closest we will ever come unless we get a board billionaire, but it does not happen often, and truth be told I would not want to win the league like that. Its almost cheating and I for one would prefer to win it like Arsenal did, buying the youth and talent and harnessing that talent for mere buttons!

    I feel we have a decent team, and are starting to progress that way, only difference is Arsenal did it when the level of competition was alot more on an even playing field!

    NOW its all about money and greed!

  • 81 pawl250 // Jul 22, 2013 at 1:11 AM

    Archa,

    It would also be worthy to note we had a god awful team (pretty much the relegation team) at the time MA took over the club.

    Yet he is our worst owner because we were paying stupid amounts for relegation has been talent.

    DELUDED!

  • 82 jonobbad // Jul 22, 2013 at 1:11 AM

    Definitely last post lol

    We had a chance to be more than average after we finished 5th.
    We were 3 signings away from pushing on to something special. Not title winners but are any of us asking for that?
    Im not saying 3 25m signings. With carr it could have been much less.
    The lack of ambition shown by ashley is what really did us in.

  • 83 pawl250 // Jul 22, 2013 at 1:12 AM

    Archa -

    I was calling Jono DELUDED not you …. you made a valid point speaking my mind.

  • 84 jordijohnty // Jul 22, 2013 at 1:16 AM

    this pawl gadger is getting reet on my tits. anyone concur?

  • 85 jonobbad // Jul 22, 2013 at 1:16 AM

    Jordijohnty

    I definitely concur

  • 86 pawl250 // Jul 22, 2013 at 1:19 AM

    Jono

    Just no, no……

    Had something special? LOL

    We could have bought 5 players, decent players and given our injuries last season still finished were we did.

    The difference between 16th and 8th last season was a handful of points your talking a win or 2, or perhaps a win and a loss for the opposing teams.

    7-8th down is a league of its own, and thats what we are playing for.

    The season we finished 5th, we finished 5th in our league because we are not in the same league as those above us, accept it now.

    Football is not what it used to be, and never will be. Its why our England team is so crap now too!

  • 87 pawl250 // Jul 22, 2013 at 1:20 AM

    1st * in our league.

  • 88 jonobbad // Jul 22, 2013 at 1:20 AM

    Apparently im deluded because in my 20 odd years of watching nufc i have hated the last 6 years the most. This is why ashley is the worst owner in my opinion.
    I would give anything to go back to the good old days.
    I have found the best thing to cheer me up in these dark times is to watch the 5 0 win over man u.
    Never gets old and reminds me of the attacking football i miss.
    Also i was watching it with my mackem stepdad loving it at the time as he was moaning like mad.
    Happy days

  • 89 pawl250 // Jul 22, 2013 at 1:21 AM

    Jordi

    Awww am touched you feel that way! Nice to know you have tits though, must be all those pies!

  • 90 pawl250 // Jul 22, 2013 at 1:23 AM

    Jono -

    THOSE DAYS ….

    Are gone! FACT! The PL, the game is a different animal now! We will never see a level playing field like that again and even then it was never level! Man Utd still held all the power, we simply like Arsenal bought the right players for the right amount at the right time, but simply put never did what Arsenal and Wenger did, and that was finish the job.

    12 point lead, Keegan should’ve been sacked in this day in age!

  • 91 Thump // Jul 22, 2013 at 1:25 AM

    santonthenewmaldini // Jul 21, 2013 at 11:07 PM

    We are getting relegated and probably going to finish about 20 points behind the Mackems get used to the idea now so it wont be such a shock in May

    Well. That didn’t take long.

  • 92 jonobbad // Jul 22, 2013 at 1:29 AM

    Pawl

    If you actually read my post i know those days are gone hence the good old days saying.

    Im still waiting for a response on my pardew post.
    So convenient that you missed it.

  • 93 Bring Back Laurent Robert // Jul 22, 2013 at 1:31 AM

    Pawl

    You’ve thrown so much bullshite at the wall, I wouldn’t know where to start cleaning it all up.

    Good night!

  • 94 Uncertain Toon // Jul 22, 2013 at 1:42 AM

    NUFC – how dare you embarrass me!

    I am Disgusted!

  • 95 GeordieAnt // Jul 22, 2013 at 2:18 AM

    This is getting old. Seriously….it’s the same crap every single day. “Pardew out, we’re going to be relegated, this is going to happen, that is going to happen.” Jesus freaking Christ…just calm down. We don’t know what the situation is with Kinnear and his new “assistant,” we don’t know what is happening with the transfers etc etc…we can think of some kind of conspiracy for everything that happens in life, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s true. Why don’t we wait until we don’t sign anyone? Why don’t we wait and see if Pardew is in fact pushed out? Why don’t we wait and see what happens next season before stating we’re going to be relegated? People jump on Pawl’s back, do you not see that he’s actually right? We are and have been for a long time now…an average sized club, what plaudits are we living on? A couple of trophy wins? That doesn’t make us a “big” team. Pawl is completely right…the game has changed…billionaires have entered the playing field…it isn’t easy to compete with the “big boys” any more. I love our team…I really do, and I will continue to support the team through thick and thin…through the rollercoaster of emotion that comes with being a fan of NUFC. The fans make this club what it is…a fantastically supported club, a fan base that can charge St James’ Park so full of electricity and boost our team, as well as knock other teams off their game. We the fans are 8/10 what makes Newcastle attractive to other players…not that we’re a “big team.” Do you think that if players that we were linked with read this blog (I know they don’t…before someone jumps on me for that) they would want to come play for the club? No. We aren’t going to change the regime…but we can show them that no matter what they throw at us…we will still stand tall, applaude loudly, and cheer for our team even louder than that. We will still get behind our team…we will show the world that we deserve the title we have as Newcastle fans.

    “Proud to be a Geordie, We’ll Support You Ever More” – how about we show the spirit that we did back then? We were relegated…tears were shed, hearts broken, minds blown at the prospect that we would not be a Premier League team…but we still stood tall….we still supported our team….it doesn’t matter whether we’re a small club, average club, or massive club…THIS IS OUR TEAM….lets keep on supporting it the only way we know…with passion.

  • 96 sir_norman // Jul 22, 2013 at 2:18 AM

    Pawl

    I support your arguments. Some people blindly hated things or a person just because of a crowd factor, yet when they are alone, they didnt voice out their satisfaction.

    Support your arguments with facts and numbers,not by how many curse words there are in your comment. I salute you Mr Pawl, thats a constructive comments u had.

  • 97 p // Jul 22, 2013 at 2:21 AM

    I agree with most of that and I think Pawl had some valid points too.

    For some people, their life appears to need to be a roller coaster.

    Let’s see what happens. At the end of the day what matters is whether the team play well and win games.

    If that does not happen and steps are not taken to address that then by all means moan.

  • 98 The Arizona Geordie Pizzicato // Jul 22, 2013 at 3:09 AM

    Sack Pardew because of the DailyMail, GroundSports, Yadiyada Sport News… wake up! Is your faith that weak?

  • 99 jimmysmith // Jul 22, 2013 at 3:10 AM

    This suggestion that Ashley saved us from doing a Leeds is a bit of a long bow, when in actual fact he`s simply saved himself the interest on the overdraft, and gained immense benifit in terms of brand recognition from ownership of the club while spending relatively little.

  • 100 toon252 // Jul 22, 2013 at 4:28 AM

    You’re all muppets –

    Pawl’s here saying Pardew’s better than Keegan, he’s slagging off Keegan and Shearer!

    I’ve got a fact for you – Pardew’s win percentage is in the bottom 3 NUFC Managers since the Premiership Started! His 33% win ratio – The Man’s been sacked from 3 clubs, left two in the relegation zone, getting another relegated!

    You say we haven’t had a good manager – Houghton was a good manager! Proving it at Norwich aswell!

    Roeder had a 45% win percentage! He was a better manager than Pardew!

    Here’s the list of NUFC managers (since start of prem) with a better win % than Pardew

    Keegan
    Dalglish
    Gullit
    Souness
    Roeder
    Allardyce
    Houghton

    Then it goes

    Pardew
    Kinnear
    Shearer

    Bottom 3 ever – He is not a good manager, he is a shocking manager.. His past/current record proves it – How people say he becomes a good manager by getting us into Europe then blaming the FFing thing for our downfall is ridiculous!

  • 101 savio // Jul 22, 2013 at 4:52 AM

    Pawl..i get your points about pardew…but just think of teams like swansea…the attacking football they are playing…and they dont have any high profile players in thier team…even teams like southampton were playing attacking football last season…the thing with pardew is that he never changes his tactics….he has got a really good team there…and he still complaints there…he always plays his favourites…and if he doesnt change that,he should go…last year during he said that we are lacking in defence…and now he is saying we just need attackers…and that is after selling perch….he contradicts a lot…but i think ashley is doing an ok job as an owner…he did some stupid things when he 1st came…then getting carr in and those players,i thought he was learning…it seems he did bid for pea which is quite ambitious…but appointing JFK was a huge mistake…a step back wards i would say…and nw this new..i dont wat to say…if its true,it is really a poor decision

  • 102 jimmysmith // Jul 22, 2013 at 4:54 AM

    His record at Newcastle or other clubs doesn`t indicate he`s shocking nor paticularly good, if anything just run of the mill, as far as I can tell.

    Maybe you could gain more insight into his worth by comparing his overall record at each club hes been at with that clubs overall record perhaps 5 years before and after, and also at Newcastle he was at the helm when we achieved 5th and did get us to the quarters of the Europa league within 3 years after promotion.

    Should have done better overall I suppose, but the whole club has largely underperformed under Ashley, and that`s probably the word to best describe his time at Newcastle, underperformed. He argues ofcourse he hasn`t been correctly backed, and he has a point.

  • 103 Ben3arfa // Jul 22, 2013 at 4:57 AM

    Good morning lads, another week and yet no signings ..

    Lets see what today brings in terms of tranfers

  • 104 p // Jul 22, 2013 at 5:05 AM

    No doubt pardew is mediocre at absolute best

    But he was not sacked as he should have been so we may as well get on with it, get behind the team and see where we are after 10 games

    If we are not looking good after those 10 games, pardew, ashley, jfk and whoever will get what they deserve.

    Right now allthis drama queen stuff is like crying before the milk is even spilt

  • 105 Santon03 // Jul 22, 2013 at 5:07 AM

    I agree 100% with pawl250.

    The season hasn’t started yet, I hate pardew but he said he has realised his mistakes, I’m willing to give him one last chance to prove himself.
    We have made mistakes in the past, now we are doing things differently. This is what I call progress, it’s just that we haven’t seen the fruit of that changes because the season hasn’t started yet and transfer window hasn’t closed yet.
    In Llambias era, we don’t have people with football knowledge in charge other than pardew, now we have. It’s a progress, JK may not be the favourite person to be DOF, but he has the knowledge.
    I believe this season will be much better and we will be in top 6 with or without pardew.

  • 106 Santon03 // Jul 22, 2013 at 5:19 AM

    As for MH appointment, probably to assist coaching since we were unable to score from any indirect free kicks or corners.

  • 107 Santon03 // Jul 22, 2013 at 5:23 AM

    and MH probably will also report to JK about the progress of our youngsters.

  • 108 Santon03 // Jul 22, 2013 at 5:26 AM

    It will be great if MH will monitor our youngsters progress since we were lacking in that department.

  • 109 SeanNufc87 // Jul 22, 2013 at 6:19 AM

    Pawl

    Your going about things the wrong way, you have a lot of valid points but your opening yourself up to criticism by using insults and the word FACT when by definition, what you tag it with is merely speculation.

    Also, you would do well to persuade most on this blog they are wrong, when they themselves ignore fact and employ speculation.

    Anyone shouting for pardews head at the moment, I fear are failing to see the bigger picture presenting itself. Look at what kinnear did at Luton, does it not seem that maybe he has advised MA of this? He has been appointed as Pardews boss, bringing in his former assistant, no players as of yet… id be surprised if pardew was still here come sep 2nd.

    But let me ask you this:

    Alan pardew OR kinnear-a-saurace and his mackam assistant?

    Id say better the devil you know.

  • 110 SeanNufc87 // Jul 22, 2013 at 6:27 AM

    I think ill be taking a break from posting on the blog, ill still read Eds articles but until we sign someone or get some good news I dont think I can stomach the tedious ramblings of negativity that makes up most of the comments. I come on here for light banter and to break up the tedium of a working day so reading the same comments over and over would be close to the definition of insanity.

    Howay the lads.

  • 111 peaco1980 // Jul 22, 2013 at 6:29 AM

    Pawl250 – shame to see that the attention-seeking, delusional and in some cases: offensive comments actually get traction and people feel the need to engage with you. This blog is about giving a platform to people to express there opinions, albeit in a measured, considered and respectful manner. Perhaps you should think about that before hitting submit.

  • 112 Krul To Be Kind // Jul 22, 2013 at 6:35 AM

    Pawl

    You fought an epic battle there.

    I agree with you in the most part but the blog is what it is in pre season – It usually gets a bit more sensible again when the schools go back and the season kicks off!

    HWTL’s – Onwards and Upwards!

  • 113 Patoon // Jul 22, 2013 at 6:50 AM

    SeanNufc87

    Tried that lad and reading it and not posting isn’t much better, b better not on it at all and just follow SSN

  • 114 one Tony Green // Jul 22, 2013 at 6:59 AM

    ED you just love stirring the shite fella but hey your making money out of it

  • 115 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 22, 2013 at 7:15 AM

    Santon,
    From what I am aware, Mick Harford has zero experience of developing youngsters, or indeed in scouting/judging a players development or potential. Previously, this was down to Beardsley and Donachie to report and comment on progress. Beardsley is close to Ashley, and I doubt MA would want him replaced, unless Beardsley was stepping up to bigger things at the club.

  • 116 WWYCD // Jul 22, 2013 at 7:21 AM

    So our next manager is assembling his back room staff early, Carvers replacement set

  • 117 nico // Jul 22, 2013 at 7:28 AM

    Nice to see we finally got Cat 1 Academy status. How come the club haven’t come out and told us. Communication in this club is dire.
    What is going on with the appointment of Harford? Must be so Pards will walk, then we’ll have JFK as manager. You’ve got to laugh.

  • 118 Ian Toon // Jul 22, 2013 at 7:45 AM

    There has been much debate on Cisse and wonga but something which I find hard to fully understand and appreciate is the dawn to dusk fasting for Ramadan and the implications on the teams preparation for the coming season.

    The origins of Ramadan were for it to take place in countries where the days are much shorter than in England. We presently have around 18 hours of daylight and without water for such periods in a heatwave this is injurious to health. Maybe little will be seen of our Muslim players in a toon shirt until the 9th August when Ramadan ends. But doesn’t this impact on pre season training and generally being physically active?

  • 119 Rotonda heights // Jul 22, 2013 at 7:57 AM

    Arizona

    was our faith that strong on the first place? Don’t need media outlets to tell you what’s right in front of you

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  • 121 Dannyo // Jul 22, 2013 at 7:58 AM

    WWYCD
    This reeks of a stab in the back. I don’t get how MA allows it, he really trusts Kinnear to that level? Kinnear?! Joe Kinnear?!?!
    It’s just so extremely evidently telling that MA doesn’t have an ounce of clue when it comes to everything football.

  • 122 JAMSHA // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:00 AM

    Newcastle close on Bafetimbi Gomis
    and Loic Remy to raise doubts over
    future of Papiss Cisse

    http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/21/newcastle-close-on-bafetimbi-gomis-and-loic-remy-to-raise-doubts-over-future-of-papiss-cisse-3891848/

  • 123 Mag52 // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:01 AM

    Can’t for the life of me understand all the negativity directed at Joe Kinnear.
    Has he or has he not made a centre forward his first signing? (Mick ‘the brick’ Harford)
    Seriously though, pawl ,blogging into the small hours of the morning, has made some valid points. The best of these being the fact that anyone with high expectations of NUFC success in the season ahead is doomed to be disappointed. Actually success for our club in the coming season will be to remain in the premiership.
    Pardew is not one of the great managers in this or any league, but he is someone who will work with the thin squad we have, who will deal with the weird management structure developing around him, and will conduct himself with his usual dignity.

  • 124 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:02 AM

    Ian,
    I posted this the other day, apparently this is the way most top level players do it, except for some hardcore followers.

    My mate is a muslim coach, coaching muslim kids, and he had Tiote in to speak to them a while back. He was asked about Ramadan, initially he followed it to the letter, but struggled to operate. Now, most players follow ramadan, but break their fasts on the day before and day of a match. All except Cisse at our club follow it this way.

    This isn’t an uncommon thing, there are various dispensations for different groups of muslims to ensure it is not dangerous to the health of the person.

  • 125 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:04 AM

    lilongwe
    Hartford will be Kinnear’s assistant manager when he takes over when the TOON comes back from Portugal !!!!!
    Call it a Coup d’état, Putsch or whatever.
    Whole of this summer stinks – but like another 52,000 I’ll be there, can’t help myself.

  • 126 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:05 AM

    Ian,
    I found a quote from an interview with Ben Arfa that essentially backed up this, but didn’t keep the link, so can’t find it again. It seems plausible to me though that this could be correct.

  • 127 Toon73 // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:08 AM

    @120

    “Newcastle close on Bafetimbi Gomis
    and Loic Remy to raise doubts over
    future of Papiss Cisse”

    wow. what an absolutely useless article :lol:

  • 128 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:09 AM

    Charlie,
    I think Kinnear will stay as Director in name, with Mick taking over the management role if/when Pardew walks/is sacked.

    Obviously, Kinnear will make all decisions, and will just be director in title.

    A touch depressing. I have to say, I was hoping for some slightly better news this weekend, an actual purchase rather than more rumours and speculation. To then hear Kinnear’s first signing is Mick Harford, well…

  • 129 jimmysmith // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:10 AM

    Cisse isn’t in Portugal because he’s fasting, we are in for two top strikers and may just get them, and Harford has been brought in to assist Joe or most probably Pards do his very difficult job.

    That seems as likely as any other scenario I’ve seen cooked up on here over the last few weeks.

  • 130 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:11 AM

    Toon73,
    I think most bloggers on here have enough journalistic talent to write for the metro. Not worth wiping your backside with most of the time.

  • 131 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:14 AM

    Jimmy,
    Other than the club saying the Cisse issue was sensitive, that could have been right. Coupled with the fact that Cisse has done pre season tours while fasting before. Ramadan isn’t sensitive, and if that was the case, this whole thing is put to bed by Pardew saying something to that effect.

    As for Harford, the Echo today says he will have no coaching responsibilities and will be mainly involved in Domestic scouting. That is an area we have needed to improve, but appointing a mate who has never scouted before is not an ideal appointment.

  • 132 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:19 AM

    Lilongwe
    depressing – yes – Its quality players we need not more management. Can’t see the Pardew, Kinnear, Hartford combo lasting long.

    One of my biggest worries if Carr walks away – wouldn’t be surprised if he hooked up with Houghton again

  • 133 sparky55 // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:21 AM

    Pawl…none of what you say is fact…it’s all subjective opinion like most posts on here…all you do is try take the emotion out of it and hit back with what you purport as facts but again is simply your slant on well-informed opinion.

    None of us really know what’s going on, all of us have differing opinions on pardew and Ashley and the like but just because other posters have differing opinions to yours doesn’t mean they’re wrong.

    and my penneth being IMO Pardew is a sh!te manager who has failed everywhere he’s been and is failing now.

    You say pre-season is un-important but IMO that’s a ridiculous thing to say especially when he’s asking the players to play the same we played that got us to to the lofty heights of 16th last year.

    No-one else in the premiership plays 4-4-2 any more and because we do we get swamped in midfield and our creative players never get time on the ball or find any space so the ball get’s hoofed to the diminutive Cisse with his back to goal and we wonder why he’s bullied off the ball by the three players immediately around him whilst our nearest player is 20 yards away.

    Why would he practice such a thing in portugal when we have so many ball players in the team…is it outrageous to suggest he should be using pre-season to play a different way that gets the most from the team because we rarely played 4-4-2 when we got to 5th

    The numerous reasons why Pardew IMO should be sacked have been posted on here a million times, as have those that defend him and suggest he should be allowed to stay…but none of them are bang on correct because it’s all opinion but when we press that submit button we of course 100% correct in our own minds!

    let it slide Pawl…it’s not worth the throbbing veins!

  • 134 JAMSHA // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:21 AM

    Harford to join Newcastle
    backroom staff as Marseille enter
    race for Gomis

    http://aggbot.com/Newcastle-United-News/article/20030162

    well on twitter it also says gomis would prefer marseille huh

  • 135 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:24 AM

    Charlie,
    I can’t see Carr leaving to join another club, unless it is an offer too good to refuse. I don’t see Norwich doing that. He stated when he signed his new contract this was his last job in football. He is a fan of the club, and I think he is too highly thought of to be alienated by the regime.

    I’ve just seen that Steve Stone is going to be tasked with integrating young players from development to first team. I’m not sure whether that is a sideways or backwards step for the club. The bloke is good for one thing, and that is setting the cones up in the morning, and collecting them in at the end.

    Harford to scout lower leagues and watch our players out on loan. Good idea from the club, but once again, as with so many appointments, wrong personnel in my opinion.

  • 136 Stevenage Magpie // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:25 AM

    Just a quick one on the Arsenal season ticket comment earlier. Although what you say is true, this year they are struggling to sell their season tickets. My mate was about 14000 odd on the waiting list and was offered a season ticket last week. Also you say this defines a ‘big club’ but I would like to see how many of these ‘big clubs’ could still average 40,000 in the championship. Many of the big club fans are nothing but glory hunters who would jump ship as soon as things got tough. That is what sets us apart from most other clubs fans

  • 137 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:27 AM

    Speaking to The Journal , Pardew said: “We have great technicians of a football within our squad. When we finished fifth we kept a lot of games tight and technical.

    “That is where we let ourselves down last season. Games got too big, too open.

    “That doesn’t suit the players we have. So it’s something we’ve been working on a lot.

    “Players such as Yohan Cabaye, Hatem Ben Arfa and Sylvain Marveaux benefit from working on those tight areas. That’s where they excel.”

    Pardew saying all the right things, things bloggers on here have been calling for for a long time, will we see it implemented though? Or is it just more words.

  • 138 jimmysmith // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:28 AM

    Who really knows what’s going on or how things will pan out. But to claim the whole thing is one giant conspiracy or cock up, based on unpopular and poorly explained appointments and lack of early movement in the transfer window doesn’t really hold water does it.

    It’ll probably turn out in a sort of unsatisfying and limp way, because that’s how things tend to unfold under Ashley, but who knows.

  • 139 Schwefelberg // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:28 AM

    Now Harford! Its the same set up as Wise, Jiminez and Venture or whatever they were all called. They must do their drinking in the same casino.

    But Ashley has checkmated himself on Pardew who cannot lose now. Its him who will be sun bathing high up in Capri and drinking fine wine whatever happens this season.

  • 140 JAMSHA // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:31 AM

    Stevenage Magpie

    200% agree…. eg CHELSHIT FAN…. last week . ask ma mate since wen did u bcome a shit fan … he replyd since abra bought the club… i askd him b4 days ur club was shit n almost got relegated… he kept quite lol

  • 141 JAMSHA // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:32 AM

    Stevenage Magpie

    200% agree…. eg CHELSHIT FAN…. last week . ask ma mate since wen did u bcome a shit fan … he replyd since abra bought the club… i told him ur club was shit n almost got relegated… b4 abra he kept quite lol + the lad doesnt even know dat chelsea was shit b4 abra

  • 142 Macas // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:35 AM

    Lilongwe Geordie – Have you got anything to back up your criticism of Stone? He always came across as fairly intelligent when doing Radio 5 commentaries

  • 143 sparky55 // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:36 AM

    lilongwe@137…why is it then he was playing hoofball to gouffy on saturday???…of course it’s all words…the man always plays 100% polar opposite to what he says…he’s just talking the talk til he gets sacked

  • 144 Ian Toon // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:36 AM

    Lil- Good morning. Thought it was more interesting than a lot of issues raised on here.

  • 145 Stevenage Magpie // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:39 AM

    Haha exactly Jamsha, most of my mates are Spurs fans and when they were a mid table nothing team none of them really cared much about results etc, they just said they were spurs fans without really supporting them. Now though because Spurs have become one of good teams in the league the ‘fans’ have suddenly woken up and started caring.

  • 146 nut meg // Jul 22, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    Lilo
    Would it not be practical to get the Muslim players to train after sunset.That way there’re not really missing much as they don’t work long hours.Surely we can tailor their preparations without them going without food & water for long periods, unless there’s something I’ve missed. My brain is in melt down with the crap going on at our beloved club & now WW 111 is breaking out with posters at each others throats from what seems like all corners of the globe. lol




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