Joe Kinnear – An Unsettling Influence At Newcastle


With the news today that Joe Kinnear is about to appoint Mick Harford, who is a coach, as his assistant, it’s not clear to us what Joe is doing, when Alan Pardew is in charge of all coaching at the club.

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Joe Kinnear – unsettling influence at Newcastle

We have to remember that when Joe was appointed as the Director of football in early 2001 at Luton Town, when the club were in relegation trouble, he immediately demoted the manager Lil Fuccillo and appointed himself as manager of the team – but Luton were still relegated that May.

One good question to ask at Newcastle now, is who is in charge of the day-to-day operations, since Managing Director Derek LLambias resigned in protest at Kinnear’s appointment.

And the answer from the club will probably be that it’s being shared between Joe and club Secretary Lee Charnley and maybe some others, but shared responsibilities never work well in an organization.

And it’s always good to have clear lines of responsibility and one person in charge – and then if things go wrong you have one neck to wring – as the saying goes. :D.

The news today is unsettling for Newcastle, and it comes at a bad time, and seems to put even more pressure on manager Alan Pardew.

Joe can be successful at Newcastle, but only if he concentrates on the job he was hired for – getting transfer targets into the club and moving players out, and we still haven’t got one senior player through the door this summer, and that’s not good, although there’s still plenty of time left.

The appointment of Joe Kinnear was met with some dismay by Newcastle fans, and the move to appoint his pal Mick Hartford will have fans wondering what he’s up to.

We suppose it could be to have Hartford work with him on transfers and the like, since Mick is a football person, but Joe seems to be an unsettling influence at the Tyneside club – ever since he arrived.

It would also be nice if Hartford is indeed hired, that Newcastle tell the fans how he fits into the organization, and what job he’ll be doing.

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146 comments so far

  • Heslop Toon

    Jul 21, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    Comment #1

    Yet another example of how not to run a football club. What does a director of football’s assistant even do?

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  • james589

    Jul 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    Comment #2

    Why do I increasingly get the feeling this guy is bringing in a backroom team around him before a Pardew ousting?

    He has failed to deliver any first team players as yet and we are less than 4 weeks from the start of the new season. The majority of other clubs have had key signings in for weeks already to allow time to train and gel with the squad around them, but yet again we’re lagging behind.

    What on earth is going on at the club and why is Kinnear being allowed to hire his mates for roles which previously didn’t exist? In any other business you have a clearly defined organisational structure, and everyone knows their responsibilities and roles. At our club it seems like they make it up as they go along. So far as I’m aware, Ashley runs a tight ship within his Sports Direct business, so I’m surprised at these developments.

    Need some players in fast to calm everyone down I think.

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  • toon22

    Jul 21, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    Comment #3

    I would like to hear exactly what MH job actually is.As ive not heard of an assistant DOF.Not anywhere in world football.
    I might be wrong maybe someone could enligten me.

    As for MH exacty how is he sutible whats he ever done apart from say he hates us?
    At millwall and Luton etc exactly what did he do?
    Imho his only asset is he knows JK,so much for JKs epic footballing contacts.
    Will MH help JK find a striker?does MH actually care what we do?

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  • stan anderson

    Jul 21, 2013 at 10:39 PM

    Comment #4

    They would,nt have a clue how to run a football club.they have had a go already and failed.Jobs for the boys at the supporters expense

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  • toon22

    Jul 21, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    Comment #5

    Does MA think the crowd are going to accept JK/MH standing on the touchline?
    They might think they are “tough guys” but do they think either are going to stand infront of 50,000 geordies and everything will be fine?

    They are living in cloud cockoo land

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  • shgrz

    Jul 21, 2013 at 10:41 PM

    Comment #6

    As much as I used to like reading this blog, I get fed up that every article is so negative!!

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  • Toon Avenger

    Jul 21, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    Comment #7

    The sad thing is that most of you will accept it if we have a half decent season.

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  • toon22

    Jul 21, 2013 at 10:43 PM

    Comment #8

    Its a big ground,he has people who have payed to see the match.
    He hasnt seen how bad it used to be up here and im afraid we might see it again.

    Could they actually choose a worse pairing to step in if they decide to sack AP
    A guy thats insulted us,nearly died and got us religated with a mackem as his assistant?

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  • lesh

    Jul 21, 2013 at 10:47 PM

    Comment #9

    By nature I’m a cynic and ordinarily think of conspiracy. But, the appointment of Kinnear and now Harford make me seriously wonder, nay believe that we’re witnessing Ashley letting Kinnear have free rein to do as he likes.

    Given his general demeanour, I wouldn’t trust him to run a raffle let alone jeoparduse my investment as Ashley seems to be doing.

    Kinnear is a danger to himself and should be sent packing!

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  • toon22

    Jul 21, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    Comment #10

    Would you trust JK and MH with 280m ish of your money?

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  • microbar

    Jul 21, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    Comment #11

    Mick Hartford is ashleys doing he is ramping up the pressure on AP

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  • jordijohnty

    Jul 21, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    Comment #12

    club has become a waste of my time. 40 years of emotional involvement for what?

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  • stan anderson

    Jul 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    Comment #13

    So that is our future when Pardew is forced out JFK and a Mackem nobody.What next eh.

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  • toon22

    Jul 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    Comment #14

    So MH is meant to chase AP without MA spending big?

    If he cant see AP aint KK hes utterly blind.AP isnt going to resign ever.

    Im no billionaire but its obvious,if MA cant see that hes a total nutjob.

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  • jordijohnty

    Jul 21, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    Comment #15

    Accept crap Pardew, or face the ashley imposed consequences. How exciting was the tour de france over the last 3 weeks?

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  • toon22

    Jul 21, 2013 at 10:59 PM

    Comment #16

    You can just see it,JK cant stand there on the touchline,so they send out MH to stand as manager at SJP pretending he wants to win games…

    Its not funny is it.

    How far can people throw coins?

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  • shaunmc

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:01 PM

    Comment #17

    It’s all a ploy to try and force pardew out I fear, as much as I love Newcastle I hope he clings on for as long as possible till he’s either sacked or pushed aside just so he can get the large payout and irritate Ashley more, really thought Ashley had learned his lesson on how to run a club but I guess not

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  • spitfire_

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    Comment #18

    Heslop Toon

    Take a coffee for his master… do his laundry… do the master’s mrs when he is on duty… stuff like this I guess.

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  • colwell

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:04 PM

    Comment #19

    At what point do us fans say enough is enough? Is Ash trying to p1ss us off that much to walk away or what?

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  • toon22

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:04 PM

    Comment #20

    This may lead ,for the first time in the history of the club,a mackem standing as manager at SJP

    MA thinks thats goingto be a good thing?

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  • spitfire_

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:04 PM

    Comment #21

    In fact the only way for Pardew to win my approval is to resign… I bet after him will came more mediocre manager than him but AP will show some dignity… at this point he look more spinless than ever… to tolerate all this crap.

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  • Bring Back Laurent Robert

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    Comment #22

    We are through the looking-glass. All the world is a stage and St James’ Park is the nominated location for the football club spoof!

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  • toon22

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    Comment #23

    I wonder if i could interest MA in some timeshares?

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  • santonthenewmaldini

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:07 PM

    Comment #24

    We are getting relegated and probably going to finish about 20 points behind the Mackems get used to the idea now so it wont be such a shock in May

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  • toon22

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:07 PM

    Comment #25

    AP if he quits will wave goodby to millions upon millions.He isnt ever going to earn that somewhere else is he.

    He wont quit,the only way he will is if MA hands him a brown envelope and says pretend you quit.

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  • toon22

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    Comment #26

    Still no striker.Not even close to a striker.
    All we get its this $hit.

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  • Galtierez

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:12 PM

    Comment #27

    PSG to bid for Cabaye this week.

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  • wynsleap

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    Comment #28

    Just what is going to make Toon fans stay away from St. James Park until this regime disappears?
    How much more c**p have we go to put up with before decent fans say enough is enough?
    Or do we have to listen to the likes of Bill-son reminding us of how it is all part of the Master’s strategy or Pawl250 asking us all to ‘calm down’?
    In 55 years of supporting this club I have never been so
    disgusted in how it has been run or by the individuals running it.
    Makes my stomach turn.
    (By the way – the guy is called Mick HARFORD).

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  • luke.r

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    Comment #29

    There has to be something that us fans can do stop this a our club. It is ridiculous that the club we all love gets treated like a game of chess. We should sort of a petition or sort a protest or something!!!

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  • toon22

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    Comment #30

    We have Wonga/JK/MH/MA/AP and a team playing pre historic hoof ball
    Whats the problem?

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  • stan anderson

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    Comment #31

    Fully agree with your comment WYNSLEAPIve had a bellyful of these cretans destroying the club i have loved all my life

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:32 PM

    Comment #32

    Mick Harford was always known as a football hardman -not a newspaper hardman – a proper hardman who could take care of himself easily – in punch ups etc. I suspect that his first job will be to act as JK’s “muscle” if he turn up at the next supporters meeting at the Labour Club in Newcastle.

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    Comment #33

    get a grip ffs

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  • jordijohnty

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    Comment #34

    Get ready for relegation, for I am sure it will come….

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  • TimKrulFan

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    Comment #35

    It’s going to be a dreadful season we will do nothing until fat ash is gone.

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  • ~Joke-innear~

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:44 PM

    Comment #36

    Lads, I don’t know what all this talk about us not signing everyone is about…

    With Kinnear beginning his plot to take over from Pardew, we will end up with a whole new squad before the end of the season.

    I heard we were after some lads called,

    Jim Cruel – Young and upcoming keeper,
    Moustachio Hairdrya – Upcoming left back
    Phantisimo Kooliochini – A CB
    Mah Po Ameoba – Another CB
    Matteo Da-Boushy – RB
    Cheese Toastie – CDM
    Onion A. Knitter – CM

    Can’t really remember who else we have been linked with… but I know its more then enough to replace the whole squad..

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  • paul24

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    Comment #37

    @wynsleap

    Its nice to see some people have the right idea. All these idiots who still go to matches and hold up banners saying ‘support the team, not the regime’ need to get this into there thick skulls, by going to matches you are supporting the regime!.

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  • ~Joke-innear~

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    Comment #38

    Forgot about Yawn GoodFren and Bean Salsa

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  • wynsleap

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:52 PM

    Comment #39

    Too simple for some, Paul.
    Because they need their weekly ‘fix’ they are showing they’re happy with whatever this owner throws at them (usually s**t!). Seeing the bigger picture, ie long term gain, doesn’t seem to register.

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  • jordijohnty

    Jul 21, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    Comment #40

    I would not run Sunnerland the way our club is being run by these knobs. They are an insult to all real football fans

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