Strange News About Joe Kinnear Assistant – What Will He Do?


There is some strange news today that Sunderland-born Mick Harford will be appointed by Newcastle United as Joe Kinnear’s assistant.

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Mick Harford – being appointed by Joe Kinnear?

The former striker, who was at Newcastle from 1980 until 1981, has apparently been in talks about linking up with Joe Kinnear again, according to reports today.

Harford was appointed as the first team coach at Milwall earlier this year, and knows Joe Kinnear well because he played under Joe at Wimbledon from 1994 through 1998 – so if this is all true the question has to be – what is the role that Mick Hartford will take up at Newcastle?

It must have to do with transfers and scouting, because that’s what Joe’s job is, and we wonder how this new position intersects with the job Graham Carr does as the Chief Scout at Newcastle.

And also how it interfaces with Alan Pardew’s role as the manager (coach) of the club.

The appointment of Joe Kinnear as the Director of Football at Newcastle was a complete disaster, according to most fans, and here’s the poll we took related to his appointment at the time.

Do You Want Joe Kinnear As Newcastle's Director Of Football?

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You could logically conclude from the above poll that Joe Kinnear’s appointment at Newcastle was not popular among the fans. 😀

And most fans had hoped that Joe foot-print would remain small at Newcastle, but it looks like he is building up the group that works for him – and if Mick Harford works directly for Joe – he will be at the same level as Alan Pardew – which seems very strange to say the least.

And usually when you employ somebody at an organization, there is a job description that goes with the new job, what the job is, how it intersects and interfaces with other existing positions, and why it’s needed – that’s how it’s usually done in normal organizations.

What we do need is a top executive (where is Chris Mort these days?) to replace the departed Derek LLambias, because obviously Joe Kinnear has no experience in an executive position, and to have him as the only executive currently at Newcastle is just a little scary.

To put it rather succinctly – we have no idea what’s going on with this potential appointment at Newcastle.

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361 comments so far

  • John Tudor

    Jul 21, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    Comment #1

    body bathes and a55 wiping

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  • cyprus

    Jul 21, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Comment #2

    Weren’t we looking for a 6’4″ guy? Isn’t he 6’4″? Alrighty!

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  • John Tudor

    Jul 21, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    Comment #3

    mike, freddie starr can do a job here
    a ffcukin comedian sign him on

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  • NufcVasteras

    Jul 21, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    Comment #4

    this fuuking joke is getting bigger and bigger … but nobody laughs …. go to hell MA.JFK.HRF.AP.. leave our beloved club to someone who knows what football and fans are .. I am so tired of it .. I do not think I can cope more … please please god help us ……

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  • Levi

    Jul 21, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    Comment #5

    I think it is a strange decision but… Can you have to many players, yes, can you have to many coaches, yes, but you can always have more and more scouts. As long as it is made clear graham carr is chief scout.

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Jul 21, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    Comment #6

    Why are people assuming that Harford is coming in in the capacity as scout? Have I missed something?

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jul 21, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Comment #7

    I know opinion is all about personal choice and that but there are 1129 idiots floating about somewhere

    Ffs kinnear and harford wow talk about a dream team

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  • Spellcheck

    Jul 21, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #8

    Freddie starr,a comedian, since when?? Tudor you spout utter drivvle!!!!!!

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jul 21, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #9

    Levi,
    I really don’t think he’s been brought in as a scout, , he’s head coach at Millwall and fancies himself as a manager, I don’t know what his official title will be but he is here to take over as manager when Pards walks or is pushed, and it comes on the say so of JfK.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jul 21, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    Comment #10

    Levi
    This bloke has no scouting experience, he’s on the coaching staff at milwall ffs
    IF he was being bought in as a scout he wouldn’t be JFK’s assistant
    Have no doubt JFK is lining up his back room staff
    Absolute joke
    Mike Ashley just f ck off now you poisonous troll

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  • NufcVasteras

    Jul 21, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    Comment #11

    I want to have my tea without sugar, you idiot Hartfool..

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  • Levi

    Jul 21, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    Comment #12

    Jail

    ahh i just assumed from the headline it was scout.

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Jul 21, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    Comment #13

    He’s here to annoy us … appoint a Mackem … what else can we do to annoy the fans… change the first team shirts to pink is all that’s left for the regime to complete the insults they’ve poured on us since Ashley took over.

    Out with the lot of them.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    Comment #14

    Tads

    No idea why we got this guy in…..so much for progressin the coaching to develop the players.

    I give up. Will watch TV games but have no interest in going tote ground or buying any merchandise until Ashley is gone. Staying away to cost him money is the only thing that will hurt him. Got to hit him in his wallet.

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  • nufc_eire

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    Comment #15

    If we get the players in we need, I dont care how may JKs or MHs we hire.

    In JKs defense, the only good thing he has done is begin to trim the squad of some of the lesser squad players (Gosling, Perch – even tho he did very well last season).

    If we can move on Williamson, Obertan, Shola and Gutierrez in the same fashion, we will free up around £8m. If a decent offer comes in for Cisse (£10-15m), we should definitely take it. Add in the extra TV money then we should have around 40m to spend + plenty of wage money.

    We buy Alderweireld (7m), Remy (6m), Hoilett (5m) and Sinclair (5m). The spend the Cisse money on Lukaku (£15m). Total = £38m.

    That gives us 2 senior players per position + at least 1 up and coming youth player to cover as well. Also we have proper height in defense and attack, as well as pace everywhere on the pitch and plenty of extra creativity

    GK: Krul————-Elliot———-Alnwick
    RB: Debuchy——-Raylor——–Tavernier
    CB: MYM———–Coloccini—–Good
    CB: Alderweireld–Saylor———Streete
    LB: Santon———-Haidara——-Dummett
    CM: Tiote————Bigi————Inman
    CM: Sissoko——–Anita———-Newton
    AM: Cabaye——–Marveaux—-Vuckic
    RW: Remy———–Sinclair——-Sammy A
    LW: Ben Arfa——-Hoilett——–Ferguson
    ST: Lukaku———Gouffran—–Campbell

    Everyone one of those transfers is realistic and dare I say it, that’s a top six squad right there 😀

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  • lesh

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    Comment #16

    Scout is what the Chron suggested and there’s no doubt, he’s empire building!

    He’s talked himself into the DoF role and now he’s saying he’s not up to it without help and Ashley swallows it – unless he’s party to the politics.

    What a shambles!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    Comment #17

    Eire

    Doubt we’d get alderwield or lukaku, bigger clubs after them than us

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  • Levi

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    Comment #18

    Tads

    im in favour of another coach i just dont like the fact that its kinears man.

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    Comment #19

    nufc_eire

    Which planet are you on lad? ffs this is Ashley get real we’ll be lucky to get Bent and some cheap French striker.

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  • Indian Magpie

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    Comment #20

    TS

    You are right,

    Norwich are bigger as well as West Ham

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  • colwell

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    Comment #21

    Has Kets changed his name to nufc_eire, spouting the same Football manager shite???

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  • Levi

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    Comment #22

    15
    spend 38m… Is that all hah

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  • JAMSHA

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    Comment #23

    hope the media fks up more news on mikes personal life

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    Comment #24

    Indian

    Alderwield turned down Norwich for the exact same reason that he claimed he’d never come to us. He wants to play at a higher level than mid table and why wouldn’t he?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    Comment #25

    Levi,
    Btw that is just my opinion.

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  • Novocastrian66

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    Comment #26

    Sunday is becoming a bad news day.

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  • Geordiedoonsooth

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #27

    Ashley is not only turning us into a joke he’s turning us into a smaller club than the likes of West Ham, Norwich, Southampton, fulham, Swansea and dare I say it S*nderland

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  • Geordiedoonsooth

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    Comment #28

    I give up gone until Ashley is gone.

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  • one Tony Green

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    Comment #29

    Love the Toon pure comedy gold

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  • AndyNUFC

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    Comment #30

    After reading Vincent Tan, owner of Cardiff, comments I’m interested in what people here would think:

    Would you rather have all of what Ashley has put us through, IF, say it meant he never changed our strip?

    Imagine we got told for marketing reach in Asia we had an all red strip, would it be a step too far or would you rather have us change and gain the extra shirt sales and buy a top player worth £15-20M?

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    Comment #31

    Andy

    Step too far every time. We’re black and white, we’ve been black and white for the majority of the time we’ve existed, so I would never want to see that change.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    Comment #32

    OTG,
    If Mickee ‘arford becomes manager how will you defend Mashley on that one.

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  • Bambams

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    Comment #33

    We are currently negotiating with Blyth Spartans for a ground share next season……Planning has already been approved for a new Sports Direct Mega store to be opened on our hallowed turf….

    You read it here first ……

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  • Novocastrian66

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    Comment #34

    Has anyone seen Trading Places? Perhaps Ash has had a bet he can make a football club successful even by appointing the least qualified people possible to run the club.

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  • blew

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    Comment #35

    R.I.P. NUFC
    And goodbye.
    We may meet again, only when
    Ashley sells up.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #36

    @34 ,
    I’ve seen the film and the thought has crossed my mind.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    Comment #37

    Bambams,
    You would have the usual suspects saying well at least we’re not Leeds or Portsmouth.

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  • nufc_eire

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    Comment #38

    I dont see how people think signing 5 players is unrealistic. Everton, West Ham and Liverpool have signed 4 already. Norwich, Sunderland, Hull, Villa and Swansea have already signed 6+ players. And these are our most of our main rivals this season. Also lots of clubs are clearing their dead wood out.

    http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2013-14/jun/summer-transfers-2013-ins-and-outs.html

    As with spending 38m, if you generate 20m through player sales + extra tv money, its not a massive outlay.

    I know Alderweireld and Lukaku are looking for bigger clubs but if we persuade either one to sign, signing the other shouldn’t be that hard. If we sign Remy, Sinclair and Hoilett beforehand, it should make it that much easier as well. £50,000 quid a week would help as well 😀

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:23 PM

    Comment #39

    nufc_eire

    Of course it’s unrealistic. Unless you’ve been living under the rock for the past 5 years you’d have known that we are currently owned by Mike Ashley.

    If you think he would sanction a 38m spend then you are delusional beyond belief.

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  • Novocastrian66

    Jul 21, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    Comment #40

    Eire; it’s unrealistic because we’re talking about Newcastle United and Mike Ashley. He has no interest in spending more than he has to.

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