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Strange News About Joe Kinnear Assistant – What Will He Do?

4:42 pm, Sunday, July 21st, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 361 Comments

There is some strange news today that Sunderland-born Mick Harford will be appointed by Newcastle United as Joe Kinnear’s assistant.

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Mick Harford - being appointed by Joe Kinnear?

The former striker, who was at Newcastle from 1980 until 1981, has apparently been in talks about linking up with Joe Kinnear again, according to reports today.

Harford was appointed as the first team coach at Milwall earlier this year, and knows Joe Kinnear well because he played under Joe at Wimbledon from 1994 through 1998 – so if this is all true the question has to be – what is the role that Mick Hartford will take up at Newcastle?

It must have to do with transfers and scouting, because that’s what Joe’s job is, and we wonder how this new position intersects with the job Graham Carr does as the Chief Scout at Newcastle.

And also how it interfaces with Alan Pardew’s role as the manager (coach) of the club.

The appointment of Joe Kinnear as the Director of Football at Newcastle was a complete disaster, according to most fans, and here’s the poll we took related to his appointment at the time.

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You could logically conclude from the above poll that Joe Kinnear’s appointment at Newcastle was not popular among the fans. :D

And most fans had hoped that Joe foot-print would remain small at Newcastle, but it looks like he is building up the group that works for him – and if Mick Harford works directly for Joe – he will be at the same level as Alan Pardew – which seems very strange to say the least.

And usually when you employ somebody at an organization, there is a job description that goes with the new job, what the job is, how it intersects and interfaces with other existing positions, and why it’s needed – that’s how it’s usually done in normal organizations.

What we do need is a top executive (where is Chris Mort these days?) to replace the departed Derek LLambias, because obviously Joe Kinnear has no experience in an executive position, and to have him as the only executive currently at Newcastle is just a little scary.

To put it rather succinctly – we have no idea what’s going on with this potential appointment at Newcastle.

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361 responses so far ↓

  • 1 John Tudor // Jul 21, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    body bathes and a55 wiping

  • 2 cyprus // Jul 21, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Weren’t we looking for a 6’4″ guy? Isn’t he 6’4″? Alrighty!

  • 3 John Tudor // Jul 21, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    mike, freddie starr can do a job here
    a ffcukin comedian sign him on

  • 4 NufcVasteras // Jul 21, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    this fuuking joke is getting bigger and bigger … but nobody laughs …. go to hell MA.JFK.HRF.AP.. leave our beloved club to someone who knows what football and fans are .. I am so tired of it .. I do not think I can cope more … please please god help us ……

  • 5 Levi // Jul 21, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    I think it is a strange decision but… Can you have to many players, yes, can you have to many coaches, yes, but you can always have more and more scouts. As long as it is made clear graham carr is chief scout.

  • 6 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    Why are people assuming that Harford is coming in in the capacity as scout? Have I missed something?

  • 7 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 21, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    I know opinion is all about personal choice and that but there are 1129 idiots floating about somewhere

    Ffs kinnear and harford wow talk about a dream team

  • 8 Spellcheck // Jul 21, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    Freddie starr,a comedian, since when?? Tudor you spout utter drivvle!!!!!!

  • 9 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    I really don’t think he’s been brought in as a scout, , he’s head coach at Millwall and fancies himself as a manager, I don’t know what his official title will be but he is here to take over as manager when Pards walks or is pushed, and it comes on the say so of JfK.

  • 10 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 21, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    This bloke has no scouting experience, he’s on the coaching staff at milwall ffs
    IF he was being bought in as a scout he wouldn’t be JFK’s assistant
    Have no doubt JFK is lining up his back room staff
    Absolute joke
    Mike Ashley just f ck off now you poisonous troll

  • 11 NufcVasteras // Jul 21, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    I want to have my tea without sugar, you idiot Hartfool..

  • 12 Levi // Jul 21, 2013 at 4:54 PM


    ahh i just assumed from the headline it was scout.

  • 13 Hatem's better than Messi // Jul 21, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    He’s here to annoy us … appoint a Mackem … what else can we do to annoy the fans… change the first team shirts to pink is all that’s left for the regime to complete the insults they’ve poured on us since Ashley took over.

    Out with the lot of them.

  • 14 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:01 PM


    No idea why we got this guy in… much for progressin the coaching to develop the players.

    I give up. Will watch TV games but have no interest in going tote ground or buying any merchandise until Ashley is gone. Staying away to cost him money is the only thing that will hurt him. Got to hit him in his wallet.

  • 15 nufc_eire // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    If we get the players in we need, I dont care how may JKs or MHs we hire.

    In JKs defense, the only good thing he has done is begin to trim the squad of some of the lesser squad players (Gosling, Perch – even tho he did very well last season).

    If we can move on Williamson, Obertan, Shola and Gutierrez in the same fashion, we will free up around £8m. If a decent offer comes in for Cisse (£10-15m), we should definitely take it. Add in the extra TV money then we should have around 40m to spend + plenty of wage money.

    We buy Alderweireld (7m), Remy (6m), Hoilett (5m) and Sinclair (5m). The spend the Cisse money on Lukaku (£15m). Total = £38m.

    That gives us 2 senior players per position + at least 1 up and coming youth player to cover as well. Also we have proper height in defense and attack, as well as pace everywhere on the pitch and plenty of extra creativity

    GK: Krul————-Elliot———-Alnwick
    RB: Debuchy——-Raylor——–Tavernier
    CB: MYM———–Coloccini—–Good
    CB: Alderweireld–Saylor———Streete
    LB: Santon———-Haidara——-Dummett
    CM: Tiote————Bigi————Inman
    CM: Sissoko——–Anita———-Newton
    AM: Cabaye——–Marveaux—-Vuckic
    RW: Remy———–Sinclair——-Sammy A
    LW: Ben Arfa——-Hoilett——–Ferguson
    ST: Lukaku———Gouffran—–Campbell

    Everyone one of those transfers is realistic and dare I say it, that’s a top six squad right there :D

  • 16 lesh // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    Scout is what the Chron suggested and there’s no doubt, he’s empire building!

    He’s talked himself into the DoF role and now he’s saying he’s not up to it without help and Ashley swallows it – unless he’s party to the politics.

    What a shambles!

  • 17 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM


    Doubt we’d get alderwield or lukaku, bigger clubs after them than us

  • 18 Levi // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM


    im in favour of another coach i just dont like the fact that its kinears man.

  • 19 Hatem's better than Messi // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:05 PM


    Which planet are you on lad? ffs this is Ashley get real we’ll be lucky to get Bent and some cheap French striker.

  • 20 Indian Magpie // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:07 PM


    You are right,

    Norwich are bigger as well as West Ham

  • 21 colwell // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    Has Kets changed his name to nufc_eire, spouting the same Football manager shite???

  • 22 Levi // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    spend 38m… Is that all hah

  • 23 JAMSHA // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    hope the media fks up more news on mikes personal life

  • 24 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:09 PM


    Alderwield turned down Norwich for the exact same reason that he claimed he’d never come to us. He wants to play at a higher level than mid table and why wouldn’t he?

  • 25 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    Btw that is just my opinion.

  • 26 Novocastrian66 // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    Sunday is becoming a bad news day.

  • 27 Geordiedoonsooth // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    Ashley is not only turning us into a joke he’s turning us into a smaller club than the likes of West Ham, Norwich, Southampton, fulham, Swansea and dare I say it S*nderland

  • 28 Geordiedoonsooth // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    I give up gone until Ashley is gone.

  • 29 one Tony Green // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    Love the Toon pure comedy gold

  • 30 AndyNUFC // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    After reading Vincent Tan, owner of Cardiff, comments I’m interested in what people here would think:

    Would you rather have all of what Ashley has put us through, IF, say it meant he never changed our strip?

    Imagine we got told for marketing reach in Asia we had an all red strip, would it be a step too far or would you rather have us change and gain the extra shirt sales and buy a top player worth £15-20M?

  • 31 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:17 PM


    Step too far every time. We’re black and white, we’ve been black and white for the majority of the time we’ve existed, so I would never want to see that change.

  • 32 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    If Mickee ‘arford becomes manager how will you defend Mashley on that one.

  • 33 Bambams // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    We are currently negotiating with Blyth Spartans for a ground share next season……Planning has already been approved for a new Sports Direct Mega store to be opened on our hallowed turf….

    You read it here first ……

  • 34 Novocastrian66 // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    Has anyone seen Trading Places? Perhaps Ash has had a bet he can make a football club successful even by appointing the least qualified people possible to run the club.

  • 35 blew // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    R.I.P. NUFC
    And goodbye.
    We may meet again, only when
    Ashley sells up.

  • 36 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    @34 ,
    I’ve seen the film and the thought has crossed my mind.

  • 37 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    You would have the usual suspects saying well at least we’re not Leeds or Portsmouth.

  • 38 nufc_eire // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    I dont see how people think signing 5 players is unrealistic. Everton, West Ham and Liverpool have signed 4 already. Norwich, Sunderland, Hull, Villa and Swansea have already signed 6+ players. And these are our most of our main rivals this season. Also lots of clubs are clearing their dead wood out.

    As with spending 38m, if you generate 20m through player sales + extra tv money, its not a massive outlay.

    I know Alderweireld and Lukaku are looking for bigger clubs but if we persuade either one to sign, signing the other shouldn’t be that hard. If we sign Remy, Sinclair and Hoilett beforehand, it should make it that much easier as well. £50,000 quid a week would help as well :D

  • 39 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:23 PM


    Of course it’s unrealistic. Unless you’ve been living under the rock for the past 5 years you’d have known that we are currently owned by Mike Ashley.

    If you think he would sanction a 38m spend then you are delusional beyond belief.

  • 40 Novocastrian66 // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    Eire; it’s unrealistic because we’re talking about Newcastle United and Mike Ashley. He has no interest in spending more than he has to.

  • 41 kt97toonarmy // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    Look lads it aint the end of the road at newcastle. Just when u think it is over it takes another turn so dont worry we will have a couple signed by man city game just b a little more patient evan tho its hard as we r the only prem team not to have signed any1. But dont sweat

  • 42 Indian Magpie // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:32 PM

    Next Kinnear will want Kevin Philips from CPFC for Dan Gosling

  • 43 kt97toonarmy // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:32 PM


    Ur righting off newcastle b4 season even starts. Honestly get a grip

  • 44 bills-son // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:33 PM


    Two faced Ruddy strikes again.

    Calling nufc-eire delusional beyond belief.

    We’ve got our very own Joker on the blog.

  • 45 geordie157 // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    With spurs signing chadli, can we go and sign Townsend.

  • 46 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:34 PM


    Do I remember that not too long ago you wanted Kinnear, Ashley and Pardew dead?

    Strange that you’re telling people to get a grip.

  • 47 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:36 PM


    And how might I be delusional? So I am now two faced? Any more churlish insults you wish to hurl? You’re not doing your credibility any favours you know?

  • 48 Ben3arfa // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    I hope you die Kinnear you crooked cockney scum

  • 49 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM


    Mainly I think it’s unrealistic as those two can and will go to champions league clubs, they are already at champs league clubs and will probably want to stay at that level.

    Bigger and more ambitious clubs than ours will Want them and pay them more than we do.

    A club like ours has shown in the past we can get big names if we pay a bit and get a few to show ambition, but with Ashley I’m yet to see anything but unknowns and bargains

  • 50 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    As much as we dislike the man don’t you think that’s a bit over the top.

  • 51 John Tudor // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    some tripe about today
    ill have 2 bobs worth

  • 52 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:46 PM


    You’re being the archetypal hypocrite.

    You call me delusional, despite the fact that your defences of Ashley are characterised by a series of delusions. You expect him to invest, to be ambitious, to help develop the club and see properly challenge for honours again, when in reality there is nothing to substantiate your claims.

    I on the other hand, can point to the fact that he has a mediocre manager in charge on a long term deal, he has appointed one of his old buddies as Director of Football instead of a forward thinking, well connected, continental director who would improve our standing in world football.

    He sells our heritage to open revenue streams, he associates us with pay day lenders as sponsors, something that Bolton fans wouldn’t stand for, yet the wants, wishes and desires of NUFC fans mean absolutely nothing to him.

    He’s run roughshod over two club legends, and leaves the squad in dire need when it comes to negotiations, we needed a new CB for 3 seasons before we got one, we needed a replacement RB immediately when Simmo wasn’t signing a new deal yet he penny pinched on Debuchy, an international full back, he’s still not replaced Ba, we have no wingers of note, and no new strikers through the door despite the fact that we’re near the end of July.

    Yet I am delusional? Behave.

  • 53 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    Word of advice Bills. State your opinion, it is your right, but don’t try and call me delusional, two faced, hypocritical, or lacking in knowledge about football just because my brother didn’t play pro-football (still laughing at that one by the way)

    I’ve not insulted you, merely challenged your opinions, it is you who has continually debased yourself by lowering yourself to childish insults, which usually characterises someone who has no leg to stand on in an debate.

    So keep the insults out of discussion, stick to the facts, and you and I will continue with coldly detached, but not oft mentioned disdain.

    You continue to attempt to insult me, I will keep showing how truly pathetic your attempts to defend Ashley really are.

  • 54 geordiemark // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    well hartford can join the rest of the joker clan can only lead to ruin, if we dont sign any good players from now till the start of the season get ready for the bottom 3, even if hardford gets the job as manager I will never be satisfied until ashley sells up takes his band of no hopers, geriatrics and so called football manager with him

  • 55 nufc_eire // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    Ashley would pay a decent amount for a player if he thought he would make a profit in the long run. Each of those players could be sold for more than we would pay for them. Simple business. Thats why he paid 7m for Yanga-Mbiwa. He can sell him for at least 15m in the future. You can say the same for Remy, Alderweireld and Lukaku. With a good season behind them, you could make a few million on Hoilett and Sinclair.

    Lukaku would be a higher risk purchase at 15m but he is a potentially 30m quality striker. Cisse is a good example. We spend 9m and now people are already talking around the 10-15m mark for him

    I do hear what people are saying about the two champions league quality players. But if chelsea sign someone like rooney then lukaku will look to move on. Liverpool are the main people linked with Alderweireld but he seems to be 2nd or 3rd on their list. Norwich obviously thought they had a realistic chance of landing Alderweireld so we would be in with at least a decent shot – at least the same chance we had of landing PEA

  • 56 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    The next guy “over the line” will be Niall Quinn.

  • 57 geordiemark // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:57 PM–gomis–cardozo-could-follow-mick-harford/29085

  • 58 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    Without wanting to take sides as me and Bills get on fine now, that was a very good post @52

  • 59 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:00 PM

  • 60 Indian Magpie // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    The Spectator’s View ?@thespectoview 1m
    Oscar Cardozo has just signed a three year deal with Fenerbahce. As expected, an #nufc move was probably never on the cards

  • 61 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    Maybe we could nick Kevin Philips?

  • 62 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    Do we know for sure this Harford fella is here to assist the “Fisher King” keeper of the Holy Grail?

    …or could he just be a new coach at the club? Seems I have missed alot today :-)

  • 63 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:07 PM


    Much appreciated. As you yourself said the other day, those who criticise Ashley have factual evidence to point towards, yet those who defend him are using blind speculation, and in Bills’ case, blaming others such as G. Carr when the reality is that the blame falls squarely in the place he refuses to accept.

    I just don’t understand it. I used to hold a “wait and see” mentality, and I waited, and I saw, and as such have very firmly come to a conclusion.

    I can understand if people wish to wait a while longer, but to blindly defend the man is indefensible in my view.

  • 64 fatman // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:07 PM


    I hear your an escapee from a Wearside mental institution and that’s why you hero worship fat ash as hes the only one that’s more tacky than you Wearside lot. Who’s ya daddy bills.

  • 65 GeordieoftheSouth // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:09 PM


    Fair play for the optimism there lad…I can tell your one of those “glass half full” kind of guys!

    I personally can’t wait for the annoucement of the new physio…Vinne Jones.

  • 66 paul24 // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    I used to be so proud of being an NUFC supporter, now i darnt where a toon top for fear of being laughed at.

  • 67 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    Well another week down and no signings. What the hell are we doing ? .

    On another not there has been a Superman/Batman movie announced for 2015 :) .

  • 68 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:24 PM


    I get the buy young and either have a good 7-10 years or sell for a profit, it’s just sensible.

    But lukaku will be more than 15mil I think, cost Chelsea 22 with ad ons.

    Alderwield turned down Norwich flat out and reportedly dismissed us out of hand months ago. Only thing we could offer is money or trophies…can’t offer trophies so have to be money. Won’t happen with Ashley, doesn’t pay big wages to compete with teams who do.

  • 69 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    note rather

  • 70 bills-son // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:25 PM


    Our previous owners the Halls and Shepherd milked millions out of the club, spent millions in fees and wages on the likes of Guivarch, Maric, Luque, Boumsong, Marcellio and Owen to name but six, hocked our sponsorship money years in advance to pay for it, landed the club with a huge overdraft when it started to go t1ts up financially, called us fans mugs for buying shirts, called our women s1ags and sacked the best manager we ever had the great Sir Bobby in a humiliating way after he had got us into the top four and replaced him Graeme Souness ffs.

    And Ashley is the devil in disguise?

    Get a life.

  • 71 kt97toonarmy // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    Yeah ruddy but never have i gav up on newcastle towards the start of the season

  • 72 Lowesy // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    Eire – We won’t sign Lukaku, Alderweireld, probably not Remy, Sinclair is a slight maybe (should Man City lower the asking price) and I don’t know where Hoilett’s name is coming from because I haven’t read anything on him and us. Asking prices are too high, our position is too low and our transfer staff seem to be occupied with signing assistants and 16 year olds.

    Like many of you, I’ve been a ‘wait-and-see’ kind of guy with the small (very small) glimmer of hope that somehow, someday, we’ll pull off another 5th position and have the sense to improve our squad and running of the club. But the way Ashley runs this club is an absolute joke! He’s more concerned about signing mates who want to sign their mates than building a quality squad. Already, with the players we’ve been linked with, our decent football (playing it along the deck, quick passing and decent movement) is slowly turning into Stoke under Pulis (only he had the players to play that kind of football, not saying we should promote it). Boring, head-tennis.

    Every time I see a transfer rumour involving us, I’m first slightly disappointed with the player (hardly ever get the feeling I did with Cabaye, Sissoko was the only one that’s comes close recently), then I dismiss the rumour because it’s likely we’ll never sign them anyway due to the player not being interested, the asking price is too high (even when others would consider it a steal) or the transfer staff are just not doing their job properly. I mean, I hope they’re doing extensive scouting to make sure the player is right for us but somehow I don’t think so. We’re only in for Gomis because his club offered him to us.

    For f**k’s sake!

    Rant over.

  • 73 bills-son // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:27 PM


    I hear you got your name because you are right fat cnut.

  • 74 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    You really can’t go around saying Pol Pot was ok just because Hitler was worse.

  • 75 stuart no9 // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    all the idiots who thought ashley was doing things his way for the good of the club have all been proved wrong. The independent interview states that ashley bought the club with a view to sell the club straight away for a huge profit , to a ready in waiting buyer who decided to pull out of the deal and leave ashley with a club- investment he didnt want. needless to, say , no interest at all in the football club and will sell only when he has got his money back with profit. I hope that puts an end to all the deluded comments on here about ashleys motive to buy the club.

  • 76 bills-son // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:30 PM


    Corka :-)

  • 77 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:31 PM


    I think Ashley is ok financially but nobody is asking for crazy money being spent.

    A lot just wonder how come so many sides like Norwich, Sunderland, Swansea, etc can be spending more than us. Are they all risking the clubs future or are we being overly cautious with money?

  • 78 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    Stuart no 9
    It won’t there are people who are glad we aren’t Leeds and think entirely different to you no matter how many facts are presented to them.

  • 79 Toon Avenger // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    What I don’t understand is why nufc fans just don’t do something about it?

    If this was any other club they’d be going fcuking nuts and showing fan power.

    We call ourselves the best and most passionate fans in the world. What a load of shit.

    We are the most complacent, short sighted and ignorant fans in the world.

  • 80 Lowesy // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    Everybody wait….. Toon Avenger has the solution to get through to Ashley…..

  • 81 bills-son // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    Stuart 09,

    If Ashley had no interest in the club he would have sold all of the high wage earners like Barton, Nolan, Guti, Smith and Enrique when we got relegated. He only sold the dross and the faint hearts who wanted to leave.

    Any fan who thinks a businesman who puts £270M into a club and then deliberately manages it as if he couldn’t give a fcuk and in a way that deliberately pi$$es of the fans should be in the same institution that fatman says I apparently come from.

    The rantings and ravings about Ashley on here not to mention the wish he would die comments are the intellectual equivalent of those blogs that claim the moon landings where shot in a Hollywood studio.

  • 82 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    @Transfer Sage
    I think that’s just the type of owner Ashley is; he’s a little obsessed with keeping wages and overall spending lower. But we did spend a fair amount during that 5th place season, and of course he brought in 5 in January.

    To me I get the impression he does just enough to stave off serious pressure from the fans. But on the other hand he seems to be very responsible and cautious financially.

  • 83 Galtierez // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:42 PM

    Mick Harford, now the mackems have their agent at SJP. After our agents McMenemy and Bruce did fantastic jobs-now it is our turn to suffer.
    JK obviously can’t manage job, constant holidays etc so he gets a buddy to help. Why would he leave a coaching job to come scouting, thats a backward step career wise. We should be afraid, very very afraid!

  • 84 Rotonda heights // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:42 PM


    the point is we could have messi but he would be overseen by Pardew, JFK and Harford, 3 more largely unsuccessful, mediocre and out of touch dark age jurassic journeymen you couldn’t find.


    why us, why always us????????

  • 85 fatman // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:42 PM


    No named after the atomic bomb dropped on japan, as i hate whaling, and over fishing that’s having a disastrous effect on wildlife. and lastly the wife hates me going on football related websites, as people wind me up, and i suffer from heart & kidney failure, shes never cottons on that i change the name i use.

  • 86 nufc_eire // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:43 PM


    Hoilett has been linked with us recently. I just think he’d be a good signing. Good quick player, can play on the wing or a striker, should be cheaper due to QPR being relegated and counts as a homegrown player too

  • 87 nufc_eire // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    * sorry meant to say hasnt been linked with us recently!!!

  • 88 Toon Avenger // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    Well if it were up to me we’d boycott and target sports direct shops with fan blockades.

    I mean “support the team, not the regime” is the worst fcuking thing I’ve ever seen.

    So yeah we’ll just turn up week after week and support the team and remain silent whilst the regime ruins the club from the inside because we don’t support the board, no we support the players.

    Bull shit. I reckon Ashley came up with that slogan himself.

    The fans are as much to blame for this mess as Ashley is.

    I hate to draw any similarities to the nufc mess with nazi Germany and the holocaust but when the nazis came to power a lot of people supported Germany but not the nazis and remained silent when the should have screamed and fought and said no, not here, not now, not today. Too many people turn a blind eye and don’t fight for what matters.

    I bet someone will comment and say ‘footballs not that important’, and maybe it isn’t important enough to fight for, but meek people like those that think this doesn’t matter are the same people that wouldn’t stop a mugging because its none of their business.

  • 89 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    we’re already well covered in the winger and striker department man, we got Jonas and Shola.

  • 90 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    I’m scared of next season. We are being left behind by teams like Southampton. Yes, we bought a few players in Jan but didn’t spend much. Were them players any good. Well, I think they were okay.
    Looks like Cisse and Cabs will be leaving and with JFK in charge of bringing in new players I’m very doubtful. If we wanted bent we would have got him by now.
    At this moment in time I’m pleased I never renewed my season ticket.

  • 91 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    We play boring football, with average fit players. Our good players are all injured. Anyone else think we’ll do well to stay up?

  • 92 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    To quote a song , do you believe they put a man on the moon.
    We really are going over old ground here bills, the only reason the said players weren’t sold is that they more than likely refused to take pay cuts else where, why do you think Xisco hung about, and of course Mashley cares about his investement when it is about to lose money but he has got no interest in making it a success.

  • 93 Toon Avenger // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    Since Ashley took over we have spent a total of -£8 million on players.

    He’s here for the money and advertising not the football.

  • 94 Rotonda heights // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    bills son

    Those are the good practices Ash brings, ie a salary cap, no trophy signings and no over age players, plus a great scout in Carr and why I gave him the benefit of the doubt for so long.

    But no one and I mean no one employs Pardew, JFK and Harford and engages the tackiest of all sponsors if they really want the best for the club and it’s image. Nobody.

    The indy report said no decent investment, no decent managers and no decent class. I would dispute the investment but the other 2 charges are indefensible.

  • 95 John Tudor // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    jail are we in desperation states yet.
    do the other lot think there is light at the end of a tunnel
    will we struggle

  • 96 jonobbad // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    Id love to see a poll of which owners fans prefer, new or the old.

    Id take the halls / shepherds every day of the week over ashley.
    For me those were the best times of my life as a nufc fan.
    Those days filled me with pride and passion whereas now its embarressment and all the excitement is being drained out.

  • 97 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    If that’s the case then we will need some solid home form, and I can’t imagine SJP having a great atmosphere if this continues.

    Toon Avenger
    Don’t forget that inflated AC sum though.

  • 98 Rotonda heights // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:52 PM


    only half empty grounds will make ash think twice about the ride he’s got us on now. He could have sold to the mansoors but was too greedy.

  • 99 Toon Avenger // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    The salary cap is there to cut cost and to ensure decent players can be easily moved on.

    The age limit is there to ensure every player has a resale value.

  • 100 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:53 PM


    That tired old adage that Ashley is good because the Halls and Shepherd were worse just does not ring true.

    Have you ever heard of Stockholm Syndrome? You’re suffering from a severe case of it my friend.

  • 101 Toon Avenger // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:54 PM


    If we hadn’t have got that inflated Carroll sum we wouldn’t have spent as much so we’d still be at -£8 million.

  • 102 leavemyarselona // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    Lowesy I have to agree with everything you said there apart from the “rant over” at the end .. Does my head in when people share their view then at the end state RANT OVER ,, sure people must use it because they see it on other people comments ,, mainstream

  • 103 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:55 PM

    Toon Avenger
    lol maybe you have a point.

  • 104 jonobbad // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    Actually the moon landings were shot in a studio..

  • 105 JP...from The Rock // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    I have come to the conclusion that being a fan of this once great club is doing me no favours whatsoever. It depresses me further with even more negative news on a daily basis. It makes feel so sick to my stomach that it affects my general well being. I take this club to heart very seriously and I keep thinking to myself-WHY!?

    We will NEVER be a smooth sailing club with the odd bit of rare news to keep us excited, we will never be as big as we once were with this regime. We may have a better squad but we have worse of everything else so really we’re going backwards.

    This latest joke appointment ( more chiefs than indians!) is fcuking ridiculous and as if having that deluded tool in Kinnear wasn’t bad enough now we’re going to get his best Wimbledon pals running delicate matters within our club!!???

    Seriously if we don’t do well this season I am only going to watch on from the distance and sadly cut a huge chunk of my devotion to the team.

    It’s a fcuking joke and it only gets worse!!

    Ever since I fell in love with the team it’s been heartache way back in the early 90′s. These days it’s just not even fun to watch anymore. I am depressed I honestly am. I feel sorry for all those devoted fans that go to every away game because sooner or later they’ll come to this conclusion also and wonder, is it all worth it?

  • 106 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    MA has shit for brains,the proof is for all to see with his management of the club.He may think its other people who have lead him here but it was all his doing.He chose the people,he had the final say so.
    Greed and self delusion has left him looking a fool.

    Hope he makes a loss on us,yes it will be bad but it will be short term.

  • 107 John Tudor // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    things can only get better

    rant beginning hahah

  • 108 Lowesy // Jul 21, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    Eire – He was a decent player. He seems to have a bit of an attitude now though and I don’t see why we should be linked with players of a team who were notorious for their lack of passion for their club. Its the same with Remy, he didn’t want to sign for us the first time around, why is the second time any more likely? Because he wants money but doesn’t want to be playing in the Championship. Understandable but I’d rather sign players who WANT to play for Newcastle, not just players we can get for the sake of filling up our squad.

  • 109 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    Heights and Norcal.

    It’s a day. Looks like Ashley is now just trying to get his money back. An extra 20 mil with sky deal and now with lower wages the Toon should make a fair profit next year. I’ve been to pretty much every home game for the last 5 years when I stopped playing myself on a Sat. When JFK and then staff like Harford are coming in, what does this say. I’ve worked with people like this. They don’t have a clue.

  • 110 wolfshead@toon // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    mockery and insults aside maybe joe had a look at the fitness/coaching side and wasnt impressed – something discussed about on here many times so he brought in harford more as likely as a coach and why wouldnt he they have had a working relationship before and harford cant be a bad coach as a small club like millwall got to the semis of the f a cup to be beaten by the eventual winners and he is an ex player!

  • 111 Bring Back Laurent Robert // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    There is a light at the end of the tunnel, it’s a freight train with Sports Direct slapped on the side of it, heading straight for us!


  • 112 John Tudor // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    jp been like that for me since the 60s

  • 113 stuart no9 // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    bills – if you bought a club knowing you could knock it out a few months later for a vast profit, then it all goes tits up and muggins is left with an investment you didnt want , would you have any feelings at all for the club? bearing in mind he didnt buy it coz he adores geordies, of course you wouldnt, you would feel anger and hate towards every yhing nufc stands for , coz someone has made you look a right tw.t. hence the reason – no signings , everything he does is to get back at us fans coz most of us know he is just a complete waster and wont be happy untill he destroys everything this football club stands for. he is 1 nasty bas//rd.

  • 114 Toon Avenger // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    So the scum are in for Lorenzo Insigne and we have signed Mick Halford.

    “Support the team once we have removed the regime”

  • 115 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    I don’t know why any of us even talk about how good our potential new signings might be. There probably won’t be any of note.
    Also I’m sick of all the French players coming in. I want to see some British players playing at the Toon, instead of average French players.

  • 116 peaco1980 // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    A purge of the disease that is Ashley and his brigade of intellectually challenged turds is required.

  • 117 Lowesy // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    leavemyarselona – Fair enough, as my rants are always far from over anyway. I’ve been swayed by mass-consumerism to speak this way.

  • 118 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    We are all equal in the sense that we support Newcastle United, yet some of are only able to support the club from a distance, like myself, whereas others are able to go to a lot of games, some get to SJP week in and week out, and I am keen to hear the thoughts of those who are frequent visitors to SJP and those who even go to away games on a regular basis.

    What do you think of Mike Ashley’s running of the club? And will you continue to support the club by going to SJP and to away games?

  • 119 Toon Avenger // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    Only in my desperation did I create the following idea:

    Maybe Ashley is giving job to the boys because when a new owner buys us out they’ll all get a big pay off when sacked.

    In what cruel twist of fate did god decide to put a Newcastle United supporting Russian multi billionaire on Earth only for him to not want to own a club?

  • 120 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    I tend to side with the theory that it’s a ploy to push out Pardew. Not sure MA would have any problem sacking him if not for the termination fees involved. At 1st it seemed a high price to pay, not to mention the opportunity costs involved with basically sabotaging your own manager, but chances are MA lost faith after this last abysmal season.

    I agree about getting some talented English players in too.

  • 121 Lowesy // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    Toon Avenger – I say we all compose one letter each and send this letter to some wealthy people asking if they would be so kind as to take over our club, please.

  • 122 John Tudor // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    i’ve already asked ant and dek they said on yer bike

  • 123 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    Because God is cruel Toon Avenger

    That or him and MA are trolling us.

  • 124 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    What happened to the talk about Will Hughes. He looks a great English prospect. These French players are cheap for a reason. They not that good and have a small heart. Just look at their National side.

  • 125 John Tudor // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    bill gates too he politely said nope

  • 126 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:08 PM


    Have you ever watched the England national side play?

  • 127 Toon Avenger // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:08 PM


    It’s be easy to write a letter and add a petition signed by fans all over the world but Ashley would ask for more money as usual.

  • 128 Bring Back Laurent Robert // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    Comsotim of Ant, Dec, Shearer, Keegan, Jimmy Nail, Robson Green and Cheryl Cole are clubbing together, so I’ve heard.

  • 129 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    I’m not Pardew’s biggest fan, his tactics and subs are sometimes strange. What I do like about him is his passion. I feel sorry for him if he’s being pushed out. Especially if JFK is the one to do it. Can’t stand that bloke, he’s a complete idiot.

  • 130 Bring Back Laurent Robert // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:10 PM


    Quick hands! Or so they tell me.

  • 131 kevymartins // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    Same bloody crap on here every day, One dictator throwing out words like delusional and starting arguments with every single thing someone has to say, as if it makes him feel good about him self, It’s like in the real world that annoying fly buzzing around your face that gets squashed. Anyway keep it real, just stopped by to say that, where to next oh yea facebook ;)

  • 132 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    Dear me, it just gets worse.

    I keep telling myself it can’t get any worse, this bloke never ceases to amaze.

    Are they forcing Pardew out here or what?

  • 133 John Tudor // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    randolf and mortimer duke were truly interested they too thought of making a fast buck ,but then went for frozen orange juice

  • 134 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous
    Yes, and we have potential. If only the countries 18-20 year olds were given chance to play and develop. Look at Germnany and Spain. England is full of average foreign players. Really annoys me.

  • 135 Bring Back Laurent Robert // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    Care to name names, Kevy? I have a hunch.

  • 136 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:11 PM


    God you are boring. Who is this mysterious dictator?

  • 137 toon kk // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    To be honest what is the enjoyment of being a Newcastle fan these days? I’ve been a fan all my life and we’ve become a joke. This whole MA era will go down in history for all the wrong reasons.

  • 138 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:12 PM


    England have potential? As demonstrated by the excellent performances in the u21 and u20 international tournaments…

  • 139 Belfast // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:13 PM

    I agree it’s all a ploy to push Pardew out the door.
    What else could it be ??

    All because Ashley was stupid enough to give a manager an 8 year contract, and now doesn’t want to pay him off.

  • 140 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    Bills and others

    I genuinely think Ashley does the bare minimum to keep us a safe prem league club…mid table is target in my eyes, 10-12tj. Safe from relegation, anything else is a bonus.

    The reason he kept those big earners in championship is he knew it was worth it to get right back in the prem and make massive amounts more money so he doesn’t have to put his own in again.

    Also we are much easier to advertise sports direct and ultimately easier to sell if a stable prem league club

  • 141 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    I tried to be as neutral as possible with Pardew, seeing the positives while considering other factors that some of the fans seem to write off in an effort to belittle him.

    But his desperation really was really showed by his reliance on Shola and predictable/direct football in the 2nd half of the season. Have to admit the case has gotten strong against him.

    I guess as another human being I can be sympathetic to his situation. Being undermined by your own boss and co-workers can’t be a good feeling.

  • 142 leavemyarselona // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    It wouldn’t suprise me if mike Ashley looks to get vinnie jones in as goalkeeper coach if somebody shows him clips of some of the saves he made against us back in the day haha although he conceded a few I wouldn’t be suprised at this rate ,, we are laughable

  • 143 Belfast // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    Think the plan is doomed anyway, because Pardew won’t walk away.
    I’d probably sit tight hoping for a pay off as well.

  • 144 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    If you look at the players ages you will understand my point. England had players 19 years old playing in Under 21s. Spain, Germany etc had full internationals between 21-23 years old.
    There are simply not enough players to go round U19s, 20s and 21s.
    Our development has been hindered as young English players don’t get a chance to play.
    I actually thought England’s U20s were unlucky, just conceded a few sloppy goals.

  • 145 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    Transfer Sage
    That was my thoughts as well, but he’s passing up alot of money by not aiming higher. I think he’s more self serving; buying players/spending when he becomes cornered by fans and that’s it.

    “Delusional” has to be the most overused word on this blog, in addition to “out”.

  • 146 Rotonda heights // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    the tragedy is we were a P.E.A / Remy and a decent manager short of being a really useful team


    Santon / Haidara

    Anita / Tiote

    Ben Arfa
    Cisse / Goofy
    Remy / Marveaux

  • 147 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    toon kk
    The enjoyment is that you are living in the info. age and can watch our glory day matches on YouTube :D

  • 148 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    Yes, I must admit last season I wanted Pardew to leave. I was thinking of replacing him with someone like Martenez or something. He’d at least get us playing entertaining football.
    Instead we got JFK arriving at the club. Makes me laugh.

  • 149 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:20 PM


    I think that the problem stems from the bigger clubs recruiting young foreign players instead of developing the players they already have.

    It’s not the signing of adult foreign players, rather the failure to develop young English talent that is the problem.

    Grass roots needs to be addressed and soon.

  • 150 Bring Back Laurent Robert // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    I remember when the word ‘smokescreen’ was in vogue. ‘Delusional’ is a good one though, I know where to send someone if they need therapy – who knew so many NUFC were practicing psychologists!?

  • 151 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    Completely agree
    He does the complete bare minimum, hence why we had to originally appeal the youth academy category, he thought he could scrape it through

    And lets not forget he sold all those high earners at the first available chance

    The bloke has no interest in this football club, god knows why he even bought it
    The lack of investment, joke appointment after joke appointment, selling or releasing any player who criticise’s his clown operation, his tacky SD logo plastered over every square inch of SJP, re naming SJP whilst paying no naming rights to use it as an “example” (free advertising) and then wonga
    The bloke is a cancer killing this club

  • 152 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous
    Agreed, it’s a combination of both.
    My mate works at Man City with the Under14s and 15s. He says there’s some excellent English players coming through, also some good Dutch players.

  • 153 stuart no9 // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    the best thing that could happen at this club now is a boycott of all games untill our owner is gone , and for all of you who say – a boycott wont help the team, remember , weve hardly got a team to worry about. If we had boycotted when we should have , we wouldnt be in this mess now. so, short term gain for long term gain – as they say

  • 154 Belfast // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    Why would Harford want to leave coaching and go into a directors assistant role ? It doesn’t make any sense.

    Unless he’s been told he’ll be assistant manager to Kinnear, if Pardew quits or gets sacked.

  • 155 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    Bring Back Laurent Robert
    :lol: and they can provide medical diagnosis over the blog without even seeing me. This is the future.

    I was behind him till he refused to remove Jonas from the XI earlier this year. He’s under so much pressure and criticism, he would be better off leaving.

  • 156 Lowesy // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    Ruddy – If Newcastle had any sense they would capitalise on this situation and sign young English players to develop. When young English players then see Newcastle are doing this, they’ll come to us.
    Obviously this isn’t going to happen, although we did get a fresh batch of youngsters in last week, perhaps there’s a future star in there somewhere… waiting to be stifled out by the sheer amount of French players we sign.

  • 157 Rotonda heights // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:24 PM


    what a very racist remark. France were joint European and World cup winners not that long ago.

    Saylor may supposedly have heart but it can’t mask him being a very poor footballer.

    French players are cheaper because there is 75% tax in France.

  • 158 Toon Avenger // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    Even if Remy and/or Gomis signs I’ll still be deflated.

    We could have a truly impressive first team but with Pardew in charge we mights as well have a side of nobodies.

  • 159 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    Ashley bought players in Jan to ensure he wouldn’t lose out on 60 mil from Sky Prem league. He will think he’s got enough players to stay in the league now, maybe a new forward (not sure though). If we struggling in Jan Ashley will buy then. It makes sound business sense to him I’m sure. As a fan it makes no sense.

  • 160 Rotonda heights // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:26 PM


    when have our coaches developed anyone english or otherwise?

  • 161 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    The only possible way this can go positively for us is if the players are 100% behind pardew and the squad and manager come out fighting tooth and nail from the word go this season and give the fat fcuk at the top no reason to appoint his cronies

  • 162 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    Rotonda heights

    How is that remark in any way racist? Your an idiot for even suggesting it. Simply want to see more British players in our British team.

  • 163 Lowesy // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:27 PM

    Rotonda – …………………..Hang on……. I’ll think of someone

  • 164 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:27 PM


    That’s an area I’d like to see developed, and it’s strange why Ashley hasn’t capitalised on it. For a little bit of investment he could improve young players, develop them into PL quality and sell them on for a big profit if he chose to do that.

    He really has no ambition for this club.

  • 165 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:27 PM

    Does it matter? If pardew goes then we will have JFK in charge
    How is that any better?

  • 166 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    Rotonda heights

    The French players who won the World Cup have all retired. I might as well counter that by saying England players are the best in the world because they won the world cup in 66.

  • 167 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:29 PM


    A boycott might hurt the team short term but if it gets Ashley to sell up its good long term. It’s being cruel to be kind.


    I think champs league money isn’t worth it for Ashley. We can’t guarantee being in it every year. Got 5/6 clubs already above us in fighting for it. The 2 Manchester clubs and arsenal are always in it now and Chelsea have only missed it once in last ten years or so.

    Would be a huge gamble of money needed to get into it an even then no way guarantees we would get in. And when you think we’d get around 20mil for the group stages but we wouldn’t get much further really so have to be spending 20mil extra a year just to make 20mil more….not financially worth it so doubt he’s bothered.

  • 168 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    To be fair to the Joker, if we can sign someone as influential as Nolan I would be happy. Wasn’t he signed under Kinnear’s tenure?

  • 169 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    I see Kevy has gone very quiet, what an invaluable contributor to the blog he is…

  • 170 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    Lowesy / Ruddy
    I’d love to see us bring young English players through. We haven’t even got Grade 1 status for youth football yet though. Something both Boro and Sunderland have.

  • 171 Laurent Robert 32 // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:31 PM

    The news just gets worse and worse…

  • 172 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:31 PM

    He’s been here 6 weeks and hasn’t signed anyone what makes you think he’s going to pull out such as signing?

  • 173 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:31 PM


    French players love because of 75% tax but that doesn’t make them cheaper…clubs still want fair money.

    Basically France aren’t good anymore, over the last 4 years England have been better or at least equal really.

    I’d say that they may have a bit of technique but they don’t seem to put it to much good in games.

  • 174 Lowesy // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    Ruddy – I think that was the idea at some point, but when Ashley saw that he could sign decent players from abroad under Carr’s guidance he abandoned the idea because he saw immediate achievements with Carr’s method.
    Although I do think this season could be Campbell and Vuckic’s breakthrough season… if Pardew does it right.

  • 175 Laurent Robert 32 // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    It’s all very deflating.

  • 176 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:34 PM


    Apparently the Premier League website had announced that we’ve got Cat 1, but as usual, the club haven’t released a statement.


    I’d be happy if Vuckic could just stay fit for an entire season, I think Campbell needs a loan before he is ready

  • 177 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    Transfer Sage
    Yeah I don’t think we have the capability of challenging for the CL, but the EPL table is a different story. The info I’m seeing suggests we missed out on over 10m for finishing 16th instead of 5th this season.

    I understand 5th is a high target and was somewhat fortunate but even 6th or 7th would have been nice.

    But in the end I feel Ashley splurged in Jan just to hold on to the PL in general.

  • 178 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    Transfer Sage
    I agree. I watched England play in Brazil, we were excellent in the second half and were unlucky not to win.
    I then watched France play Brazil and they rubbish.

  • 179 Lowesy // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:36 PM

    Ruddy – He may need a loan season, you’re right, but it won’t happen, he’ll be kept and seen as back-up (which will be used as an excuse when we don’t sign any strikers). Capital One Cup though.

  • 180 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:36 PM

    I dont know, I must be clinically delusional :)

  • 181 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    See spuds have signed chadli

  • 182 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    I did hear that but apparently we haven’t got it yet. At least there’s no official publicity of it. We still ranked 2. Might just not be published yet though. Hopefully we are Cat 1. Then we can bring in youth players from further a field.

  • 183 Rotonda heights // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:38 PM


    Welcome to my world buddy. Hate how NUFC affects my life so much and all negatively.

  • 184 John Tudor // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    tads we looking at anyone

  • 185 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    Is that the same as mentally optimistic! :)

  • 186 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:39 PM


    I don’t think England or France are amazing but neither are terrible either.

    It’s just Germany and Spain are miles ahead of any other nation in terms of talent and depth of talent.

    But the beauty of sport is that even a much worse team can win on the day, especially in knock out cups. Ian league the cream rises to the top but a cup anything can happen, just need one or two players to have a bad day and even the best can be beaten

  • 187 AaranD // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    Just seen the friendly game, what a shambles!! The defending was diablical for every goal. Was a shameful performance.

    I know its pre-season and other top teams have lost but after last season a good pre-season for us would help boost fans confidence, but no and now im dreading playing City as it could be an ugly game.

    Worst thing is it seems we have stayed with the isolated striker tactic Pardew loves so much and just hit and hope and we ended up getting a 25 minute hiding off a second rate Portugal team.
    I’m going to the Rangers game so I hope to god we put on a better showing there.

    As for this Kinnear assistant carry on, why does he need an assistant!? If he isn’t up to the job, which he bloody well isn’t, why did he get it in the first place? Really starting to look like Pardew is getting pushed out the door now…
    The fans need some answers!!!

  • 188 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:40 PM

    Apparently were only looking at second rate coaches who are kinnears only contacts left in football

  • 189 jazzyp // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    will hughes was valued ar around the 10 mill mark by derby county. And that’s where the problem lies for homegrown talent as they are way over priced.
    how can you justify paying 10 mill for an unproven English youngster when the likes of tevez goes for the exact same price to juve. there is just no comparison for what you can get abroad for what you pay for an English player

  • 190 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    Both are interchangeable on this blog lol

  • 191 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    Completely agree if he needs an assistant in such a cushy role he should never of hot the job in first place

  • 192 Rotonda heights // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:43 PM


    but the English players are hardly better are they and also they’re stupidly expensive?

    Ok they’ve just retired / retiring but the likes of Makelele, Desailly, Viera, Petit, Henry and Evra etc had plenty of heart.

  • 193 kirkyman // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:43 PM

    I remember when it used to fill me with pride and joy to support this club, now it is just embarrassing!!

  • 194 John Tudor // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:43 PM

    pmsl there seems to be some outspoken peeps today
    will some ever learn i cant see nothing but trouble ahead

  • 195 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:43 PM

    Transfer Sage
    There’s no reason why we couldn’t be as good as Germany and Spain or at least close. They have more players coming through because they get chance to play in the first team. The Prem league has to many average foreign players taking their place.
    The English national team has potentially a very good team, lacks depth though.

  • 196 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:43 PM


    Worked ok for bale and Walcott. Sometimes you just have to take a big gamble if you want big rewards.

  • 197 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:43 PM

    AaranD // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:39 PM
    The fans need some answers!!!

    What ever came of those conferences the fans held with the club? Were they worthless or what.

  • 198 Belfast // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    We’ll be fine keep the faith.

    Joe Kinnear he’s the man if he cant do it no one can.

  • 199 Ibizatoon // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    “People, we should be struggling together.”
    [in a headlock] “We are.”
    “No, we should be rising up against the common enemy.”
    “The Judean People’s Front?”

    Just like a month python sketch this blog. I’m starting to doubt whether Ed actually supports the toon and just runs this site for a laugh.

    Only playing Ed.

    So, things are looking up then lads?

  • 200 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    I actually think any chance we had of making signings took a major hit with
    A) Ashley’s lack of ambition last season, he’s made it clear he has no interest in competing in Europe or even trying
    B) Appointing JFK, the amount of negative press must of immediately put off any potential signings, even before his incoherent ramblings

  • 201 toon kk // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    When MA first bought the club he was probably full of ideas of all the money he was going to make. BUT because he hasn’t a clue he’s putting it in the hands of others to run, NOT getting proper advice and thinking he knows better he’s relying on his mates to run things, but with his stupid decisions and penny pinching things are going pear shaped.

  • 202 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:46 PM


    You could say that of any country, it’s just a cycle. Brazil dominated, France have….it’s just turns really.

    As for top many Foreign players stopping your lads…that’s rubbish in my eyes. England were very average in the 70s and 80s when there weren’t many foreign players in the league too

  • 203 AaranD // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:46 PM


    And those were weeks ago…
    What’s going on at NUFC right now is a farce!

  • 204 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:46 PM

    Ibizatoon // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    So, things are looking up then lads?

    If you mean us looking up at the Premiership in a years time then yes Ibiza :)

  • 205 Ibizatoon // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:46 PM

    or a monty python…whichever you prefer really…

  • 206 Rotonda heights // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:46 PM

    If Pardew walks great, but if JFK and Harford really are the replacements it’ll be the saddest day in our history since the last time JFK was in charge.

    There has to be a NUFC supporting billionaire out there somewhere!!

  • 207 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:46 PM

    Rotonda heights

    Yes but they only became great players because they grew and developed in France before moving here. Henry wasn’t that good in his teens. No end product. Early 20s he started to become a player. Mid 20s he was brilliant. Hopefully our system can develop good English players. If it doesn’t what will the Prem league become?

  • 208 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    Well that’s too bad, I was sincerely curious though, thought the face-to-face would garner some answers from the board.

  • 209 Bring Back Laurent Robert // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    I feel like all the clubs are on the last chopper out of Saigon, whilst we’re having it up the aris with Ho Chi Minh.

  • 210 jazzyp // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    transfer sage
    I agree what your saying but if you had to choose between tevez or hughes for the same price I know 100% or i’d choose.
    if you had to choose saurez for 23 mill or carrol for 35 mill again It would be 100% saurez.
    English players are just to overpriced. and when you can bring all these cheap foreign imports in to your club that’s whats effecting the development of the English youth policy

  • 211 Ibizatoon // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    Norcal…So there is some reason to be optimistic then? :)

    As for your comment about people of the blog all being psychologists, I think it comes from years of trying to self diagnose why we would put ourselves through the torment of NUFC. We all try and justify things in life….best justification for supporting NUFC has to be delusion, no?

  • 212 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    Transfer Sage

    I think our quality of player has improved in the last 5/6 years, maybe because of the foreign influence, but as I say, there’s to many average foreigners playing and stopping potential good young players coming through.
    England’s team in 1986 and 1990 World Cups and During 1996 was pretty good though. You can’t argue with that.

  • 213 Rotonda heights // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM


    so I’m an idiot for suggesting your comment ” the french have no heart ” is racist.

    hello what am i missing??? I’m the idiot????

  • 214 Ketsbaia9 // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:52 PM

    We’ll probably sign Darren Bent, Ricky Lambert, James Tomkins and Jordan Henderson. We’ll get rid of Cabaye, Marveaux, Anita, Santon and Cisse.

  • 215 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    You just triggered an epiphany. MA and Pards must be sending us down so we have the PL to aim for.

    Oh and don’t forget the physical strain this club puts on us. It was Gary Weaver after all who said you need a health warning if you want to follow this club!

  • 216 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    Finally Kets! The voice of reason!

  • 217 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    It’s heartbreaking to see all these ex Wimbledon people coming into the club. Complete joke.

    I feel like my identity is being stolen from me.

    Nee where near good enough. We deserve alot better.

  • 218 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:56 PM


    They were ok then but England have only ever made one final in 66….hardly a good record at any stage. I really think if English coaches picked kids at 9/10/11 on talent not size we’d have a lot more talent coming through, there would be more good English kids and therefore as there is more choice the price would be lower as there would be more of them.

    English lads cost more as not many so that drives the price up

  • 219 yo-yo // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:56 PM


    So even you think the lunatics have taken over the asylum ?

  • 220 Rotonda heights // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    Ruddy @ 52

    so spot on

  • 221 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    Can ppl see my posts today? I feel slightly ignored :-(

  • 222 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    Rotonda heights
    “These French players are cheap for a reason. They not that good and have a small heart. Just look at their National side.”
    That’s what I actually said. I’ve watched the last few French national games and in my opinion they never battled as hard as they should have. Rolled over V Brazil and in the World Cup in South Africa they were a disgrace.

  • 223 jazzyp // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    ya not feeling the love on here today pal !!

  • 224 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    You say something? :)

    It could easily be lost in this doom and gloom.

  • 225 Ibizatoon // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    Norcal…I would go along with that if it wasn’t for the difference of money available in the two leagues.

    I suppose if we went down, we could do the whole winning something again…that was fun for a season.*

    *Don’t shoot me, said completely tongue in cheek, in case that wasn’t clear.

  • 226 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    Rotonda heights
    Next time you quote someone, make sure you actually get it right. Idiot.

  • 227 JackButler // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:01 PM


    Tell everyone that you used to play for Wimbledon and they’ll be scrambling to speak to you

  • 228 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:01 PM


    That’s fair really. I think in the last two major tournaments they have exited early and once went on strike and after each tournament have had people banned.

  • 229 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    Transfer Sage
    I think they are getting better at picking up good young players so hopefully we should have more coming through in the next 6 years or so.

    So if all these young English players are so expensive, why is Ashley trying to produce them so he can sell them?

  • 230 bills-son // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    Can anyone tell me why – if Ashley is unambitious and is purely interested in making money from us – he signs players on long contracts and makes it known that no top player will be sold unless Carrollesque type money is paid?

    I have absolutely no doubt that enquiries have been made for Cabaye, Krul and HBA but the fees quoted will have ranged from prob £15M for Krul to £30M for Cabaye.

    Even if its PSG or ManU those clubs know Ashley is serious and they will have to pay way over the top to get who they want. And they aren’t worth. If they are daft enough to pay it as LPool were only then will Ashley take the money. And the thing is most fans know that is the case.

    Sounds to me like the actions of someone who is trying to build a top team not trouser cash at the drop of a hat.

  • 231 Ibizatoon // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    Who invited the old man?

    Hi Jesper, how’s things mate?

    yo-yo….I didn’t think that was ever really in doubt.

  • 232 tarie4 // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    i am sorry mate.but the cream always rises to the top..if the british players are any good..they will always rise to the occasion.. remember the so called Golden Generation?? what did they achieve?? end off..
    u say the pl is filled with average foriegners..i disagree its filled witg average british players too..look at the best players in the league..its the foriegners.. rvp suarez name a few…
    also look at the prices for these players 35 mill for carroll also 15 mill.. 8 odd mill the scum paid for that kidd from ipswich town..and we got cisse for 9 mill.. im sorry but theres a reason most clubs in the pl are buying foriegn is because..ENGLISH PLAYERS ARENT JUST GOOD ENOUGH… and we shud just admit that.. just admit it..

  • 233 AaranD // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:04 PM

    We buy cheap in order to make a profit if that player turns out to be a hit. Everything else is a screen to make the fans happy. We can’t make any step forwards till that changes.

    Mid table finishes with some decent players and our best being sold is all we will be unless real ambition is shown right throughout the club!!

    I wouldn’t blame Cabs or anyone if they leave, we show zero ambition to win anything or even just to improve. Last summer was a big chance for us to take a step forward and try to push but we blew it and signed one player…

    I want to be wrong but when you look at the big picture it doesn’t look good.

  • 234 Krul To Be Kind // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:05 PM


    when you have to explain a satirical joke before hitting submit… it says a lot about the audience!

    *just being observant before I too get shot :-)

  • 235 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    Nice catch. Got a new brigade out targeting anyone comfortable with our state of affairs atm. lol

  • 236 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    He might just get a call from JFK himself

  • 237 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:07 PM


    I think the reason he gets long contracts is so that players have to stay once they sign, and they stay on the same basic wage they signed on, stops them leaving on a free.

    Also if he does get a player in high demand he can sell for a high few.

    I don’t think he is out to sell players, he just will of he gets a massive offer. He doesn’t need to sell as we barely spend on in comings.

  • 238 41 years of pain // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:07 PM

    Harfords record as a manager (all lower divsion) is 25/% win rate and a 45% lose rate, worrying times if he is being placed in a position to take over when Pardew fails – as I expect him to.

  • 239 yo-yo // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:08 PM


    NO. He really is not trying to build us as a top team – he’d need to invest much more to do that. MA took a hit when he bought the club without due diligence in the hope of a quick sell on – and he’s been looking for a way out ever since.
    But nothing has workled so he’s simply trying to minimise his losses yet maintain a saleable asset. Ambition doesn’t come into it.

  • 240 JackButler // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:08 PM


    You’re missing the point – Why are we signing all these great players only for them to be handed over to a second rate manager?

    Pardew never has and never will achieve anything in the game and yet he gets an 8 year deal. Ashely doesn’t have the first idea of what the hell he is doing at this club proven by said 8 year contract and the appointment of Mr. Kinnear and now Harford

  • 241 Ibizatoon // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:09 PM

    bills…As you know, I am well and truly split on most things NUFC and whilst I can see the possibility of that scenario, players would also be put on long term contracts as that drives the selling price up.

    On the not selling of Krul and Cabaye, are they the actual offered figures or assumptions? If that’s real, then fair play, decent money.

    I think the best argument that it’s not all just about financial gain is that the only real player sold worth discussing was AC and it was a deal that was truly too good to turn down. However, that isn’t conclusive and time is ticking.

    I said before this summer that for me, this summer was the biggie as far as how I judged Ashley, have to say, so far I am not impressed. I as always, will reserve judgement until September, but can honestly understand why many fans are struggling to find hope. There’s no need for the circus.

  • 242 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:10 PM

    The domestic league of any major country is supposed to have average players of their own country, then the best foreigners to add something to the league. Yes, of course there are a lot of very good foreign players in the Prem League, but there are also to many average ones. This is because they are cheap. You can’t say English players aren’t good. Wilshere, Walcott, Sturridge, Barkley etc. Just there could be more but their progress is hampered as they can’t get a chance to play because there is an average 25 year old foreign player ahead of them.

  • 243 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:10 PM


    Exactly. English players are useless and have been as coaches only pick big and tall players to get short term results. This is because during early years of football technique isn’t developed so size nearly always wins.

    Means when we get to 15/16 we have a lot of big oafs but not many good technical players.

    Size is not important for every position…good if we have some tall and technical but technical skill is the major issue with us.

  • 244 toon kk // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:10 PM

    A big problem in our squad apart from Pards and his sh.t tactics is we lack pace and tire.
    Everyone knows we need strengthening, but I’m sure MA is wanting to sell one or two better players to fund others. (Credit crunch and being careful)!!!!!!!!!!

  • 245 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    If I was Pardew right now i’d be seriously p’d off.

    Have I got this right here that Harford is a scout?

    Kinnear’s assistant?

  • 246 viv // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    Kinsnear, has brought Hartford, to be his enforcer.

  • 247 Mister Tuff // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    Poor old Percy -away in a foreign land – grazing like a sheep in the pasture thinking his friend JK is here to help him -when in truth JK is the wolf in sheeps’ clothing. JK is now circling getting ready for the “coup de grace” by hiring fellow assassin Harford to join the pack of baying wolves.Meanwhile Percy is oblivious to what is happening and continues chomping at the sweet grass in the pasture -meanwhile the wolves are circling readying themselves to pounce.

  • 248 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:13 PM


    Clubs would use English players if they had any…the simple things is out academies aren’t good enough on average. If we had 100 talented kids and not just 10 then the price would drop.

    Also it would be cheaper for clubs to use their academy players instead of buying even cheap foreign players.

  • 249 Krul To Be Kind // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    I’m starting to think he is here for the long haul (Ashley). No way would a man depreciate the value of a club so much with his staff incomings unless he was trying to make a buck longer term ie. sponsorship, TV rights, stadium naming rights, free SD publicity and player sales (huge profits if the purchases are right) at the end of the day, if he sells any of the players he has brought in at even the bottom current market price he is still up a few quid. we are currently just a vehicle for SD advertising and in a few years a merry-go-round of player sales.

  • 250 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    Transfer Sage
    We have some very good English players. As I said before, we are getting better at developing players based on the Spanish and German models e.g. not just picking tall players. These players are coming though now and need a chance to flourish.

  • 251 yo-yo // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    Rotonda and Anti Pardewists

    Be careful what you wish for regarding the manager – especially if Mick Hardup is being lined up as the regime change candidate.
    The problem is that we all know AP is mediocre but we could very easily end up with comeone even more mediocre when he goes.

  • 252 Ibizatoon // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    Krul…It has seemed a little tense on here of late, disclaimers will be in force this summer :)

    Norcal…It’s expected really and for the first time, I don’t have the energy or desire to try and fight it. As I just said to Bills, I don’t understand why them make it all so difficult if the intentions are good (okay, not exactly what I said, I’m expanding the thought ;) ). Pardews first summer at the club, they were prepared and honestly impressive. Granted Pardews appointment was never an overly inspiring one, they actually showed they can run a club fairly well. There was still a lot to do, but it was a fantastic first step. I just don’t think there have been that many positive steps since besides Cisse that January. Possibly a little unfair, I did say that I felt they had been naive last summer, when they rectified their mistakes in January, sort of, but so far they don’t appear to have learnt from their mistakes…but boy do I hope they prove everyone wrong.

    Only another 5 weeks or so…

  • 253 bills-son // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    If Pardew doesn’t produce quickly next season he’ll be sacked irrespective of his eight year contract.

    If Ashley appoints Kinnear or Harford I’ll lead the protest march to get Ashley out.

  • 254 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:16 PM


    Haha, love it.

    Court case pending maybe..

  • 255 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:17 PM


    I agree. It’s something that’s changed over the past few years so will take time to see the changes come through.

    But still at school and grassroots with kids too many are picked for size or all the coaches friends kids get a game etc. can’t change that really, never will at that level.

    Just need clubs to continue to look out for the right characteristics in kids.

  • 256 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    Transfer Sage

    The problem is, teams are to scared to use them as they are inexperienced. Because Prem league gets so much money, to get relegated would be a massive blow. Instead teams gamble on bringing more experienced players in to play. The very good English players generally make it, but sometimes the late developers never make it. Why there aren’t as many. Hopefully over the next few years we will see more Englsig players of quality given a chance. Love to see it at the Toon. Hopefully Dummet will prove a success.

  • 257 Ibizatoon // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    toon kk…On fitness and tiring, that seems to be one of the little bits of good news this summer in that we have got in a new fitness coach to work with the team. It was really needed and hopefully improves things.

  • 258 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    Yo yo

    We shouldn’t live in fear though. We should expect positive changes and if positive changes aren’t made people should protest or boycott the regime

  • 259 JackButler // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:19 PM


    And thats the massive worry, if/when Pardew is sacked it’s anyone’s guess who we’ll end up with.

    Pardew isn’t the problem, its the buffoon that employed him

  • 260 Belfast // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    I can’t believe Bill-son is still defending him lol

    I suppose I’ll just have to admire your loyalty to a complete asshole.

  • 261 Krul To Be Kind // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:19 PM


    I found myself defending a very innocuous comment late Friday evening to the point that I just went to bed.

    *Disclaimers at the ready ;-)

  • 262 viv // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    Hartford, sounds like a MENSA genius. He turned Man Utd, down to join Luton.

  • 263 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:20 PM


    Well I think the loyalty line has been crossed long long ago. It’s now bordering on the insane.

  • 264 Krul To Be Kind // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:21 PM


    Is that another JFK fairy tale? Sounds very like it!

  • 265 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    Transfer Sage
    I totally know what you mean at school and county level. I really do think scouts now look for technical ability etc more now. Then these players get put into community systems and then on to representing the teams e.g. Under 13s at Toon etc.

  • 266 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:21 PM


    That’s why the loan system should be encoureged…possibly even part funded by the FACT to give kids a chance to go to lesser clubs even if the lesser clubs can’t afford the wages.

    Also we need to massively improve the reserve set up…Spain let reserve teams compete on proper domestic leagues so that they youngsters get good, competitive experience.

  • 267 Belfast // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    Aye it seems percy is running out of mates fast.

  • 268 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    Many of the issues you mention just push me towards the belief that MA is indeed more self serving. I’m sure he sees club success as a bonus, but is more concerned with his own affairs. He doesn’t strike me at all as a man who is passionate about the club.

    I also believe his moves are calculated and aren’t a display of ineptitude in the scope of football club management.

    Would like to think otherwise but it’s tough.

  • 269 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    Funded by FA not by FACT haha

  • 270 Ibizatoon // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    To mix things up a bit, can I propose an idea?

    I think we should look at revamping the blogs buzzwords, to ensure a smooth transition we could start this new system August 1st.

    First order of business…”Regime” – Any ideas?

    Start thinking about ones for “Ambition” and “F*UK”

  • 271 yo-yo // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:23 PM


    Agree but I don’t think its fear we live in – it’s more either sad or angry resignation how our club is being run.
    Me it’s more sadness. For a lot on here it’s real anger – I just can’t let the eregime get to me that way it’s too destructive.

    I think Ibiza is right – we can’t keep making excuses every window. This one is very very important but has been dire so far and judgement day is only a few short weeks away

  • 272 Belfast // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    I often wondered was bill-son a sports direct employee who had just received a massive bonus.

    I still hold those suspicions.

  • 273 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:25 PM


    I accept most teams go through good and bad times, very few stay consistent over a persons life time.

    I just think that we need a much better person running the club, somebody who truly cares about football.

  • 274 yo-yo // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:25 PM


    For ‘regime’ substitute tyranny
    For ‘ambition’ substitute compass
    For F**k substitute oh poo

  • 275 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    Transfer Sage

    Agreed, there’s a lot of things that can be done for young players to get more experience. Needs to be looked at definitely. I def think Newcastle should look at this more though. Be great to get more British players through our ranks.

  • 276 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:26 PM


    Would go a long way to explaining it wouldn’t it? I’ve run out of ideas as to why else he would defend Ashley so staunchly.

  • 277 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:28 PM


    Even if it means signing them cheap but when they are 13/14 and its a bit more of a risk. They need to address the problem really.

    We also need to stop buying only from outside the league. We need players who have experience in England…whether they are English or foreign, it’s better if they have league experience.

  • 278 Belfast // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:28 PM

    Bill- Son drinks out of a sports direct mug.
    It’s a well know fact in the blog world.

  • 279 Ibizatoon // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    Belfast….Much like we all admire your loyalty to being a complete *sshole? ;)

    Krul…That’s odd…I don’t remember being on here late Friday….

    Ruddy…Hell mate, how’s things? How’s the dark side treating you?

    Norcal…It’s a silly move on his part really. Give the Geordies some passion and they’ll back you to the end. I can understand how and why we’ve got here, with the distance between Ashley and the fans, it’s a shame as it could have been so much better. At the end of the day, I do agree with the blueprint and that it can work. It’s not a one year plan and then suck it and see though, which sadly, seems to be the current plan.

  • 280 viv // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    Krul, its completely bona fide.

  • 281 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:31 PM


    My parents have 3 of the damn things! Copious amounts of tea are drank in my house haha

    Before you all label me an Ashley lover, I’ve tried to get rid of said mugs haha

    I wonder what his stance will be if/when we have a disappointing window.

  • 282 Transfer Sage // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:33 PM


    In fairness to bills he said that he would slate Ashley if he doesn’t deliver in this window.

    Got to take his word for it.

  • 283 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:34 PM


    I’ve made an entirely new set of enemies! haha

    Not too bad lad, how’s your sabbatical been treating you? I’ve taken to writing about the shambles that currently is our football club, I’ve found it cathartic haha

    Well, at least we have the weather :D

  • 284 lesh // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    Big Pappa Cissé @67….. The new Superman-Batman movie’s based on a caper about an evil plot to steal a football club.

    It’ll have Shearer as Batman, Keegan as Superman, Ashley as Lex Luther, Pardew as the Penguin and Joe Kinnear playing himself.

    Any suggestions for other villains?

  • 285 ErnestHemingway // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    I can remember a late night TV programme that was hosted by Danny Kelly (former editor of NME and now to be found on talkSPORT). There was a question that was put to a footballer each week which was;

    “Who is the hardest player you’ve ever played with or against?”

    The answer every single week was Mick Harford, so the question was changed to;

    “Other than Mick Harford, who is the hardest player you’ve ever played with or against?”

    The programme was aired on Channel 4 fairly late at night a good few years ago.

    Make no mistake about it, Mick Harford is one hard bastard. He was the only player Vinny Jones wouldn’t mix it with.

    Even though he is f****g nails, I don’t think this is a wise move. On the face of it, this does seem to be a move by Kinnear to bring in an ally. I fear for Pardew and the future of our club because – contrary to many – I firmly believe and have believed all along that Pardew does indeed have the clubs best interests at heart and knows what it takes to succeed at the club. It’s a shame that Mike Ashley doesn’t share his views.

    Not even Mick Harford coming from the same estate in Sunderland as the wife (Plains Farm) can make him more any attractive a proposition to me!

  • 286 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM


    I’ll take his word for it when it happens, and not a second before. I can’t trust a man who still defends this regime.

  • 287 Ibizatoon // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    Are there people that don’t drink from a Sports Direct mug then?

    yo-yo…All very good suggestions :)

    I agree with you on the anger / sadness point. Maybe for me it’s easier, being away and all, but I just can’t let it get to me in that way. I would question what sort of fan that makes me, but it’s more a general lifestyle choice so football shouldn’t be any different, for me anyway.

  • 288 JackButler // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    To be fair to Pardew he really is an impossible position now, whether or not thats of is own making is open to debate but who in their right mind would now openly walk into this club and take over the managers position

  • 289 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    I think at first he saw the potential of NUFC (for himself) with it’s history and fans and was likely optimistic.

    But when his overreach caused backlash from the fans, he reacted by disregarding them rather than listen. In relation to other EPL owners MA is a little more reclusive. Doesn’t seem like the social/emotive/empathetic type who would listen to fans and admit he’s wrong.

    So in other words he doesn’t care much for our opinion.

  • 290 i // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    Here is my take on the situation.

    Last summer MA was as enthused about nufc as he had been for a very long time. He made a ‘lot’ of money available because he had genuine Champions League aspirations. Mainly because it would have allowed sports direct to be advertised on a larger stage. Would have earned nufc more money and ultimately help him to achieve a selling price for the club, which he would deem acceptable if it could be maintained long term.
    However it was DL’s sole decision not to spend, believing he could hold out to get the players at a cheaper price at Xmas or next summer and he gambled he would be as lucky as he had the previous season. Obviously we all know what happened. DL also championed the 8 year deals for AP etc.
    During the course of the season MA became more annoyed at the team’s performance and also nufc’s lack of financial growth in the international marketplace, which had also been a key remit of DL’s job.
    Finally he lost all patience when the Remy deal was messed up and that is why he personally got involved with the rest of the transfers and signed 5 players. DL’s days were numbered from then.
    At the end of the season the meetings with AP were to see if he was prepared to resign – AP point blank refused, as he had an 8 year contract in his back pocket. MA did not want to pay another large payoff again.
    So MA had a bright idea, he would split DL’s job in two. He would hire a ‘football man’ he trusted to be DOF and hire somebody else to take the club forward financially – so far yet to be appointed.
    In MA’s mind JFK was perfect because if AP failed to deliver he could be sacked and he already had a new manager ready and waiting, somebody he felt could do a better job.
    JFK has came in though with only one agenda remove AP and complete his ‘unfinished business’. We all know the one thing he possess is self-confidence and he honestly believes if it was not for the heart attack he would still be manager.
    He know feels his health problems are now behind him and he has today started recruiting his own coaching team for when he ultimately takes over.

  • 291 89Norcal // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    maybe not overreach so much as poor judgement possibly with Hughton, actually

  • 292 Ibizatoon // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:41 PM

    The problem with disposing of anything Sports Direct is it’s so cheap to replace. If the end of the world comes there will be two things remaining. Cockroaches and Sports Direct merchandise…oh, maybe rats too…so yeah, three things.

    Ruddy…You must never get a rest on here now then? :) Ruddy against the world!

    All good here, been working loads, which has helped with the sabbatical somewhat…there are even days where I haven’t even read the articles and daily news. Quite depressing to then go back and see there has been no real daily news…got to love the excitement of the transfer window!

    So, back to better things, the weather, glorious, I don’t even mind sharing it with you fine folk for a little while.

  • 293 nico // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    Transfer Sage
    Yes, get them in young and look to develop. I do also agree with bringing in players who have had experience in England.
    It seems the natural thing to do for a club like ours. Develop our own players then no need to buy anyone. Get some Spanish youth coaches in, that should work ha.

  • 294 viv // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    If Kinnear, has another Heart attack will there be a round of applause?

  • 295 yo-yo // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    i @ 289

    What a counsel of despair but Machiavellian enough to have more than a grain of truth

  • 296 Dragon64 // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    How come a self made billionaire is totally clueless on the workings of a football club. Buys a football club for what ever reason. Still trying to get my head round that even more so when he’s not even from this area. People to blame you can go on all night,you all can moan and groan like I’ve been reading but at the end of the day if you still buy the season tickets and the tops.He will still be laughing all the way to his next billion. The people I blame are the hall’s for being a bunch of greedy —–. Got us into that much dept and won fxck all. So when some cockney bloke with more money than brains come in without checking books they sold us out. well pxssed off.

  • 297 Ibizatoon // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    Norcal…Are you seriously saying you don’t thing Ashley cares about fan opinion? I might need a while to take that on board :)

    I’ve always hoped, that for the same(ish) sort of effort, just better planning, that it would be beneficial for him to do it properly, why not? I still don’t have a very good reason.

    JB…Is that a genuine question? I’ll give you a clue. He’s responsible for everything ever and if you don’t believe him you’re a c*n*!

  • 298 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:47 PM


    Well I like to think I’m not nearly as obnoxious as I once was, so not getting jarred as often as I used to haha

    I’m not even on this as regularly any more, used to be a daily thing, still on pretty often but it get’s too depressing at times.

    Maybe we’ll have a better August, transfer wise, than we’ve had in July but I doubt it.

    Glad things are all good your end, if you want to give a read over some of my musings please do, some feedback would be much appreciated :D

  • 299 JackButler // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:48 PM


    Not a question at all mate…………….no manager with half a brain cell would take over from Pardew…………So that leave’s Kinnear and/or Harford

  • 300 JFK junior // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    Could be worse lads!

    Bournemouth are 3-0 down at half time on their own patch!

    Awful showing!!

    Bournemouth 0 – 3 Real Madrid
    Ronaldo (2)

  • 301 Belfast // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    Ibiza stop these sly digs at me you fat Spanish waiter

  • 302 Jinky Jim // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    were starting to look like the Aussie cricket team.

  • 303 JackButler // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:51 PM


    And Pardew is not the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy

  • 304 Belfast // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    I pissed in the last sports direct mug when I was really drunk one night. It got binned by my angry other half.

    Shame on me for pissing in a cup I know

  • 305 welshgeordie9 // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    Can someone tell me if we are in talks with gomis this weekend

  • 306 Foxworth // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    @GFN_France 46m

    Estadio Deportivo: Kevin Gameiro will play for Sevilla next season they claim. We reported earlier this week a €8m bid was made. #PSG

    Not signing him either then.

  • 307 Ibizatoon // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    JB…So we can relax then? :)

    Ruddy…Obnoxious? When was that brought into question? :)

    You have a new medium for people to abuse you! Wonderful. I will take a look mate, for now though, I head to the beach. There is a DJ set with one of the guys from massive attack and one from nightmares on wax….should be a good way to end this pig of a week :)

    Take it easy lads, tomorrow potentially could be better :)

  • 308 Ibizatoon // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    Belfast…I’m just trying to make you proud. Have a pleasant evening pissing in cups x

  • 309 JackButler // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:53 PM


    Where about’s in Wales are you from???

  • 310 NUFCarter // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:54 PM

  • 311 welshgeordie9 // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Swansea why do you ask

  • 312 JackButler // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Welshman myself :D

  • 313 Belfast // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    Just couldn’t be arsed going up the stairs would you rather I pissed in the garden and get scooped by the neighbours ? :)

  • 314 Belfast // Jul 21, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    Oh no they’re going to start talking about sheep aren’t they ?

    I’m off lads.

    Over and out !!

  • 315 JackButler // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:00 PM


  • 316 welshgeordie9 // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    JackButler where are you from

  • 317 JackButler // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM


  • 318 yo-yo // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM

    Another Welshman though born a Geordie (Welsh parents)

    Try this piece of wisdom

  • 319 yo-yo // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM


  • 320 JackButler // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    The Taff’s are slowly taking over :D

  • 321 yo-yo // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:04 PM


    No need for jealousy – there’s more sheep than people in your neck of the woods too – so enough for everyone

  • 322 welshgeordie9 // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    There’s nothing wrong with sheep thank you very much just add plenty of mint sauce and then happy days.

  • 323 yo-yo // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:05 PM

    Who would you pick as a Welsh Manager for the TOON then ?

  • 324 Tinman // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    Ruddy, your a good writer. I enjoyed your article, will continue reading whenever I have the time. Keep at it. It shouldnt take too long for you to build up a lot of regular readers!

    Did notice a couple of typos though ;)

  • 325 Tinman // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    How do the Welsh find sheep in long grass?

    Very satisfying!

    Hehe Haha Hoho. I am a hoot.

  • 326 welshgeordie9 // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    I don’t think there’s nobody out there at the moment who could do the job.

  • 327 bills-son // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:10 PM


    I’ve always thought you were an ar$ehole.

  • 328 viv // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    Wow! Ameobi is injured the goal must have proved too much.

  • 329 kevymartins // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    Geordie blood over here :) From norther ireland but great granny was a geordie, That one make me proud :D

  • 330 welshgeordie9 // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    TinMan you are a funny guy


  • 331 Tinman // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    viv, bad news it probably means we wont be able to get rid of him

  • 332 Tinman // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:15 PM

    welsh, lighten up man you huffy bugger!

  • 333 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    looks like Pardew is being stitched up by Kinnear and Ashley and with all this f88cking about the transfer window will slip by without any signings.
    God am I looking forward to next season – like a whole in the head.

  • 334 viv // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    Even better he won’t play Tinman.

  • 335 Yorkgeordie // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    Wolfshead @110
    Have you seen the state of Harford in recent photos, makes you feel like tossing him a coin never mind getting everybody else in order

  • 336 welshgeordie9 // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    Don’t worry tinman I forgive you

  • 337 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    That article in the independent was far to complimentary to be believed, I don’t think for one minute Mashley thought aboout making a quick buck, he, as an anylitical business man realised the benefits owning a football club would bring to his main passion, he was not wrong, I think we underestimate the fat fusk when we say he is clueless in running our club, looking how much SD has prospered I think he knows exactly what he’s doing.

  • 338 welshgeordie9 // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    Sorry Tinman

  • 339 yo-yo // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:28 PM


    Irony transplant on its way

  • 340 yo-yo // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:31 PM


    d’you get a Big Issue of him ?

  • 341 remy D // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    God man this blogs gone down the pan

  • 342 kt97toonarmy // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    Evening lads

    Well another day of the tranfer window nearly gone and still we have nowt to show for it but the tranfers will b here………one day

  • 343 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    Yo yo,
    Perdona mi amigo no comprehendo !

  • 344 Jail for Ashley // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:36 PM

    Remy D,
    Since when ???

  • 345 kt97toonarmy // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:38 PM

    Remy D

    The blog is going down cause theres nowt to report on. If ed didnt come up with half of these reports we wud still b commenting on the arsenal game. :)

  • 346 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    Is it me, or does it seem like they are over crowding people above Pardews head here?

    This is not the way to run a football club man, howay.

  • 347 Rotonda heights // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:43 PM


    You do seem to have a really bad anti social habit of calling people idiots.

  • 348 kt97toonarmy // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    However i do admit if it wernt for the likes of jail for ashley, ibizatoon and many other regular readers and bloggers then the blog wud b goin down but we are far from that. At least i hope so :) LOL

  • 349 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:53 PM


    Mike Ashley is all about advertising his main passion.

    He needs to go. And im sure he knows it.

    On a whole, this last 5-6 years has been a disgrace.

    We all deserve better.

  • 350 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    Go back and read JKs interviews.
    Are we to beleve MH is one of his world wide contacts,his ace up his sleeve?
    Do you think SAF recommended him,was he snatched from under the nose of AV?
    Its hard to beleve they have managed to find a bigger dinosaur than JK.

    We need a striker and they find a fookin mackem thats about as usefull as a fookin chocolate fireguard to help our DOF a world first it must be,assistant DOF.

    Religated is what this brings.

  • 351 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    Go back and read JKs interviews.
    Are we to beleve MH is one of his world wide contacts,his ace up his sleeve?
    Do you think SAF recommended him,was he snatched from under the nose of AV?
    Its hard to beleve they have managed to find a bigger dinosaur than JK.

    We need a striker and they find a f00kin mackem thats about as usefull as a f00kin chocolate fireguard to help our DOF a world first it must be,assistant DOF.

    Religated is what this brings.

  • 352 Mister Tuff // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:03 PM

    Remy d ial – if the blog has gone down it is because of peanut brained numbskulls like you. No good comments just slagging of others. However, all is not lost, – I have the pleasure of awarding you the new monicker of “Ted the Tool”.

  • 353 OhSholaAmeobi // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:06 PM

    Why do people assume that Kinnear and Harford’s appointments have anything to do with Pardew?

    And…people were calling for Pardew’s head 2 months ago! Me included! He should have went after the Reading fiasco! Christ sake people.

  • 354 kt97toonarmy // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:11 PM


    It seems to all of us that ashley is planting the seeds to make kinnear manager nd this mackam tosser director of football

  • 355 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    Im sure Millwall are crying into there beer,having to face loseing such a tallent.
    He has achived so much for them .

    Utter disgrace an utter utter disgrace.

    Whats his job?

  • 356 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:19 PM

    If MA thinks the fans are goingto accept MH he is even more deluded than i thought.
    JK has already claimed nobody in the north east is as clever as him,and he has decided to employ a mackem as an assistant who has previously claimed he hates geordies.

    Cant wait to see the interview to explain this….

  • 357 stan anderson // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:20 PM

    Cocney Maffia with a Mackem to assist is a nightmare.When are you going to taste the coffee and do something about it,oh sorry you have all bought your seats now so are bound to put up with this crap.Weare not going to sign anyone of any quality thats for sure.They laugh in there Champers at you people who keep turning up and pay them money to be shafted season after season.See the light people.

  • 358 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:24 PM

    Its been years since there been open hostility inside the ground.
    Really hope not to see it in my lifetime but this seasons going to be utter toilet.

    We have a striker who wont play becasuse of his beleifs.Shola has got a head start on his usual injury.Goffy who they refuse to play as a striker.And a bunch of kids thats not ready.

    What do they do?

    Sign a mackem as an assistant DOF or is he meant to carry JK difribulator?

  • 359 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:25 PM

    So is everything back to it’s normal self yet?

    …been having connection problems all evening and before that I was being ignored :-(

  • 360 toon22 // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:26 PM

    If we go on a bad rum these people will find it hard to actually visit the ground on match days.
    They cant land in a helicopter can they.

  • 361 sparky55 // Jul 21, 2013 at 10:30 PM

    yep…some of you are feeling sorry for Pardew but he’s now getting what his woeful performance last year deserves.

    …only downside is looks like JFK getting the hot seat but would like to think even Ashley wouldn’t do that!

    …but then again we must learn never to be surprised at this club should we?!

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