92% Of Fans Think Cisse Has Damaged His Wonga Case


Once we saw photos of Papiss Cisse in the Aspers Casino in Newcastle, we thought the case he has against Wonga for not wanting to wear the insignia because of religious reasons related to his Muslim faith – would be badly damaged.

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Papiss Cisse – his case against Wonga undermined by his gambling

And to get the views of Newcastle fans we put up a poll this morning, and at the moment t 92% of fans think he has undermined his case against Wonga.

Here are the poll results so far, and please vote if you haven’t already done so, since we want as wide a cross-section of fans as possible voting – and it’s democratic with one vote per reader.

Does Cisse's Gambling Undermine His Position Against Wonga?

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A spokesman at Aspers has said that Cisse as “an occasional visitor” who was “very well-behaved and very welcome”, but would not confirm whether or not he placed any bets at the casino – but the very fact he frequents the casino undermines his case, whether he bet on the tables or not.

Cisse’s being asked to wear the Wonga shirt – but by wearing the shirt it doesn’t say he agrees with what Wonga are doing with their pay-day loan business.

The other thing we keep bringing up is he wore the Virgin Money sign on his shirt last season, and that company is similar to Wonga in that they gain money (interest) from lending money – and that’s against Sharia law – so why wasn’t that a problem with Virgin Money?

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Cisse seen at the gambling tables

We just hope that some solution can be found to the impasse, and we certainly don’t want to lose the Senegal striker.

What do you think?

Comments welcome, but please keep them civil.

NOTE: We are trying to help Ingo Hagemann who is an International student at Northumbria University studying for an MSc in Sports Marketing, and he’s doing a survey as part of his Masters dissertation. The survey is on the controversial sponsorship between Wonga and Newcastle and it takes only five to ten minutes to complete.

There were some problems earlier today with getting to the site, but all is OK now – please help Info by taking the survey here – many thanks.

And it looks there is some unrest in the Newcastle camp – as depicted by the photo below.

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We’re just kidding – and it was a photo sent in by reader Colin Davidson – looks like Colo is asking Joe to sign some strikers soon – or else. 😀

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111 comments so far

  • richyg01

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    Comment #1

    PFA are involved in this and hopefully they will come to some form of solution, no party involved will want this to roll on for too long.

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  • richyg01

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    Comment #2

    See Cisse, you cant pick and choose.

    Mr Ahad (Newcastle City Councillor) told Press Association Sport: “There are no grey areas in Islam when it comes to interest-based loans and there are no grey areas with regards to gambling.

    “For example, alcohol is forbidden, adultery is forbidden, gambling is forbidden and earning interest is forbidden.

    You can’t pick and choose.”

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #3

    Munster

    We can’t very well look for another manager while Pardew is in the role. That’s destabilising and wouldn’t help anyone.

    The fact is that I’m sure there were some pretty heated meetings at the end of the season to establish what would happen next season and Pardew has clung on to his job by the skin of his teeth. He’ll be under no illusions what he has to do to stay in the job next season.

    Why can’t people just get behind him and we’ll just see how we do? If we finish in 7th or 8th place then he’ll have done a very good job, if we’re looking much lower than that, then he’ll be sacked. People can’t lose…

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #4

    richyg01

    Says who? Says another Muslim…so what? Everyone has different ways to follow their chosen faith. This councillor may decide that you can’t pick and choose, whereas maybe Cisse believes that gambling doesn’t count as a problem if you’re not doing it for material gain.

    We just don’t know.

    It does undermine his position though and I hope things are clarified soon.

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  • Belfast

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #5

    Hypocrite.
    Well and truly scooped !

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  • Shadow_Shearer

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #6

    I have respect for Cisse, for standing up for his beliefs, and against MA decision. But I still don’t see why we won’t swap him for a striker of equal value.

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  • Bring Back Laurent Robert

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #7

    Richyg

    You just don’t get it do you? Me and others explained earlier why anyone elses viewpoint is purely academic. Why are you so vociferously trying to condemn Cisse?

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  • richyg01

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    Comment #8

    @4

    Fine, but in wearing the NUFC shirt, he is not gaining from Wonga.

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  • Goodfella

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    Comment #9

    I’d say just get rid of him but I doubt we will get a replacement and shola will probs end up with a new contract.

    Also class pic of colo 🙂

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  • AaranD

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    Comment #10

    Hooper going QPR pretty much done, Remy on his way out sharpish I think now.

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  • count

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:35 PM

    Comment #11

    Totally sick of all you morons who think you are being insightful and reasoned human beings for picking to bits this so-called argument and siding against Cisse. No wonder the world is in such a mess when you are all so soulless and embroiled in self interest.

    A lot of projection assuming he is just looking for more money. I think you are assuming that because you are that way yourselves.

    Ed if you delete this comment, that will be the final straw. No more hits for you from me.

    I am allowed my opinion and if you choose to censor it that will be the end of any support you have had from me over the years.

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  • JAMSHA

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    Comment #12

    richyg01

    nice,spot… … cisse must be sold.. end of it… a 1 season wonder…

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  • Shadow_Shearer

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    Comment #13

    He wants a move, and we want a quality player in return. Staight swap for De Jong

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  • richyg01

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    Comment #14

    I have nothing against Cisse.

    I have nothing against his religion or beliefs.

    I do not want Cisse to leave NUFC.

    I just don’t think the lad is helping his case, and the longer this gets dragged out for, the less chance there is of him staying with us.

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  • ochytoon

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    Comment #15

    TDS
    Says the moral code by which practicing Muslims are supposed to follow. I understand what you are trying too say, but, the fact of the matter is that Cisse can’t jump to defending his actions with a religious argument when he has completed contradicted the religious principles he is claiming too follow

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  • winnynufc

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    Comment #16

    The article says they dont know if he bet or not? Well i think if you look at the first pic published that is defo Papiss! Tell him to sort his head out get the shirt on & play if not get him transfer listed, stop pissing about NUFC!!! HWTL.

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  • richyg01

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Comment #17

    @16,

    Certainly looks like he has chips in hand.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Comment #18

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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  • veto

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    Comment #19

    really dont want to lose him , think the best is yet to come from the lad

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    Comment #20

    richyg01

    Of course he benefits. Wonga pays the club and the club pays Cisse. Cisse is getting paid to do his job, part of his job is to wear sponsored kit.

    I don’t think any of us should be dictating what he should and shouldn’t do beyond encouraging him, the club, Wonga and the PFA to just decide what is going to happen so we can move on with or without him.

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  • christoon5369

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    Comment #21

    im gunna sit on the fence with this one…can see both sides to the story but i dont know enough about religion and dont know enough about wongas agreement

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  • Bring Back Laurent Robert

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    Comment #22

    Ochytoon

    He hasn’t “defended his actions with a religious argument” and I’ve never heard him define any “religious principles he claims to follow”, that’s pure fabrication. The media have done their job well, it seems.

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  • Phatoon

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Comment #23
  • nufcalex

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    Comment #24

    I have Muslim friends who gamble and drink but they hate loan sharks, despite what you all may think, they clearly do pick and choose.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    Comment #25

    BBLR
    He hasn’t actually said anything had he?
    Think everyone is guessing, did pardew mention anything about cisse on the BBC last night?

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  • ochytoon

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    Comment #26

    Bring Back Laurent Robert
    As far as we are aware, Cisse has claimed that Wonga is against his religious beliefs. The media may be wrong, but Cisse has not come out to say otherwise, so for the moment, this is what I am basing my argument on.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    Comment #27

    ochytoon

    So presumably neither can a Christian who has ever taken God’s name in vain or stolen something or wanted something that someone else has?

    Christians are supposed to follow a moral code too but some follow it more closely than others and in different ways.

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  • christoon5369

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Comment #28

    TADS
    my point exactly

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  • Slank

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    Comment #29

    Shadow @ 6

    ‘..standing up for his beliefs, and against MA ..’

    Do you mean breaking his contract, because that is what he is doing?

    Would you still support him if the Wonga deal was cancelled and the tickets prices were doubled to cover the loss of revenue?

    Would Cisse object if Newcastle Breweries sponsored the club?

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  • Toon_Tom

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    Comment #30

    Chris @21 – best way lad. No matter what we think or believe there is always someone with the opposite view. Let the FA and NuFc sort it with him.

    In other news – last night people spoke of Gomis on route to Newcastle? Any updates anyone or simply made up shnizzle from the twittersphere?

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  • FatmanJoe

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Comment #31

    Richy its a bit rich saying ‘the longer this gets dragged out, the worse it’ll be’ – you’re the one posting links and dragging it out.

    I couldn’t care less if Cisse gambles and refuses to wear the sponsor. Players might occasionally tuck into a happy meal but object to wearing McDonalds on their shirt. It’s not up to me to dictate which aspects of his religion he chooses to follow and it’s not up to anyone else on here. Religion is down to the individual. End of!

    Good on him for having morals on shame on everyone else for telling him what he should and shouldn’t do.

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  • ochytoon

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Comment #32

    TDS
    That’s not what I said. Cisse’s case is different because, as far as we know, he is trying to defend his actions via his religious principles, which he has contradicted by gambling in a casino and by wearing the shirt sponsor last season.

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  • DokToon

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Comment #33

    gmorning all…

    im not a religious one, so this has all been a snoozer for me, but maybe different people have different levels of faith… soem jewish folk may eat pork, some muslims may gamble, some catholics may not go to confession… i dont really care, faith is an indiviual belief imo…

    i love cisse, he brings you to th edge of your seat every time he closes in on the goal, so i do not wish him to leave, nor do i wish him ill…. so lets hope he can focus on the pitch, and hope we move upwards, so we can all be united under the black and white stripes… all i care about is my club… the rest is hearsay, phtotsay, and turns into a soap opera…

    but if he must go, trade him for dempsey 🙂

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  • Bring Back Laurent Robert

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Comment #34

    Ochy

    Ok, let’s take your version on the face of it. Can you tell me what Cisse’s religious beliefs are comprised of, without citing the Muslim fundamentalist hearsay?

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  • count

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #35

    Too right bring back Lauren Robert! People are so quick to hate because of what the media tells them. They never question why that is what the media is choosing to tell them.

    I suspect this is all just designed to get more publicity for wonga. I don’t know for sure, but I am not the one judging and calling him a hypocrite, saying we should just sell him.

    The people coming out with crap like that are obviously harbouring their own prejudices. They can’t be bothered with anything outside “the norm”

    Small minded idiots.

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  • FatmanJoe

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    Comment #36

    Funny how most people on here massively objected to wonga and then when cisse did the same they all started having hissy fits.

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  • Slank

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    Comment #37

    richy @ 14

    Exactly.

    The longer the silence continues the worse his case becomes.

    Why hasn’t he, or/and his agent or/and the club said something? It isn’t good for him or the club.

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  • Bring Back Laurent Robert

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    Comment #38

    tads

    Nope, not a peep and Pardew just said “we have a ‘situation’with Papiss” mid-flow answering a different question, in the interview, if my memory serves me right.

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    Comment #39

    Hows about
    Cisse getting his wish not wearing a Wonga sponsors shirt but wearing a TOON shirt with Sir Booby Robson’s Charity on.

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  • christoon5369

    Jul 24, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    Comment #40

    would just like to add i hate wonga bit i will still buy the shirt and wear it with pride as the badge matters alot more to me that the sponsor does

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