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Newcastle Hopes Fading On Bafetimbi Gomis

7:28 pm, Thursday, July 25th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 386 Comments

The Lyon Chairman and owner Jean-Michel Aulas has today said that the French club have received three offers for their French International striker Bafetimbi Gomis.

batefembi gomis

Bafetimbi Gomis – three bids in for the striker?

And that’s not good news for Newcastle, who for one reason or another seem to have dragged their feet in bidding for the 27 year-old striker, and only yesterday the owner had said while Newcastle were interested they had not received a bid from the Tyneside club.

Football clubs are successful in the transfer market by showing stealth and speed, and unfortunately Newcastle seem to have been moving at a slow pace at best this summer – and that’s being kind.

With Newcastle’s reputation for bidding low for players, we cannot believe that our bid is the best one in there, if indeed three bids have been received by Lyon.

And Aulas confirmed that Newcastle are one of the clubs interested in the forward, but there were rumors that Tottenham Hotspur had also become interested in the striker, who has played 10 times for France.

Aulas posted the message on Twitter today, when he was asked the question – had there been any interest for Gomis – this is what Aulas tweeted:

“Yes at least 3″.

We suppose that could mean clubs just expressing an interest in the striker rather than actual bids, but we just hope that Newcastle have formally put their bid in, because yesterday had told the French channel Canal +:

“There is an interest by Newcastle for Gomis – we wait from them to come to us with an offer.”

We could be wrong, but generally the longer the chase for a good striker goes on, the more clubs will become interested – and that’s what seems to have happened here.

Newcastle must move a lot more quickly in the future, and not tell the world who we are after, if we are to get our targets through the door.

There still has to be a chance we can get Gomis to Newcastle, but the longer it goes the less chance we think Newcastle will have of getting the player. :(

We hope we are wrong on this.

And to end on a more positive note, we’ll have Papiss Cisse at the club next season, as he has now agreed to wear the Wonga emblem on his Newcastle shirt and training gear – that’s some good news today.

So at the moment we have Shola Ameobi and Papiss Cisse as the two recognized strikers, with Yoan Gouffran also able to play up front, and we need two more strikers this summer.

Comments welcome.

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386 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 25, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    Or it could just be a case of them lying about other clubs so we spend more.

  • 2 Levi // Jul 25, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    I think we’ll get him

  • 3 Goodfella // Jul 25, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    From last thread-

    Hahaha it was obvious he would backtrack as soon as those photos were released, I wonder where all the people who were supporting his case are now :)

  • 4 toonking // Jul 25, 2013 at 7:33 PM

    repost
    BPC
    maybe that cisse story could be rigged.
    I play a lot of poker online and their is so much rigging conspiracy
    one guy even said that he had AA flopped quads but the other guy hit the royal flush but what he didn’t do was post that hand which the site I am on can be done.
    that poker forum is as bad with negativity as this forum can be.

  • 5 DokToon // Jul 25, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    walking on a beach in combat boots is faster than JK getting soemone in, i think…

  • 6 JAMSHA // Jul 25, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    “There is an interest of Newcastle for Gomis.
    We wait from them to come to us with an
    offer”.

    says it all.. gomis wants to join us…

  • 7 rainrix // Jul 25, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    Hope fading eh? Is this a recent thing?

  • 8 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 25, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    @ king

    Possibly. I just find the Cisse story very strange. He has never actually been quoted as saying he had a problem with wearing Wonga on his shirt and it was mostly through his agent that we heard of the issue.

    I still possibly think it was an elaborate scheme to get more money out of us but have maybe back tracked because this photo has surfaced ? .

  • 9 DokToon // Jul 25, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    its “rain”ing on the nufc parade… :)

  • 10 low fell mag // Jul 25, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    Come on big Joe,lets get him in now.
    You have done the Talk the Talk,now lets do the Walk the Walk.
    The big man from the Smoke or the little pussycat.
    As Delia once said Lets be having You.

  • 11 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 25, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    @nufcfans: #NUFC can cope easily, says Pardew. Hope it doesn’t mean no signings. http://t.co/THMNY1q7aw

  • 12 lukes26 // Jul 25, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    Isnt this what clubs always say? They’re not going to say there’s only one team interested.

    This is also why Darren Bent stories will keep coming up. There’s no way newcastle is interested in bent, they just want the allusion of it so that they have negotiating power themselves.

  • 13 MrMojoRisin76 // Jul 25, 2013 at 7:40 PM

    The only other person i can imagine backtracking that quickly was Jimmy Savile’s last sexual partner.

  • 14 tekkers2402 // Jul 25, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    Hopes fading? Nobody has bid officially from what I gather. @GFN_France claim Lyon’s president are to have a key meeting with us soon. I never believe anything anymore but we do seem to be in the driving seat.

  • 15 Offkey // Jul 25, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    @3 So he didn’t want to wear it because he wanted a move and now he will wear it because he gambled and pictures have come out…………ok…….its logic of some kind I guess……..

  • 16 rainrix // Jul 25, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    Dok… Happy to keep things light for everyone :)

  • 17 JaxtheMag // Jul 25, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    cisse goffy and super shola that’s it, we wont buy now,pardew wont say anymore about getting any1 over the line now.ash will of told him nomore cuming in.

  • 18 DokToon // Jul 25, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    has anyone looked at the fixture list on nufc.com? im lookin git up and down, trying to plan my days off at work, when i realize all the matches listed, v Everton, v Arsenal… i see only one club we play twice is in all lower case letters… mackems… i got a good laugh from that…

  • 19 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    Why read too much into this? He said 3 clubs are interested. Just because some other cr*ppy site interprets this as 3 bids, doesn’t mean we have to do the same.

    At least 3 interested clubs, we are one of them. Now we wait to see what happens.

    If he doesn’t come, either the finances weren’t right or he just got a better offer.

  • 20 fatash // Jul 25, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    Big Joe can pick up the phone and talk to any manager in the world, if they want to talk to him, the same goes for me, trouble is they don’t seem to want to talk to JFK and I don’t know any managers .
    I don’t think he will get any of our targets as no one takes him seiously.
    Cisse may have a problem with Wonga and his religious beliefs but lets face it we all have problems with our beliefs, catholics have confession for that reason, so if he was gambling that is for his consience and it is not our place to comment. I won’t wear a Wonga shirt either. It is interesting the Archbishop of Canterbury has said that they will try and drive Wonga out of business.

  • 21 brklyngeordie // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:01 PM

    As much as i would welcome any addition to this thin squad and especially one to the strikeforce would not lose much sleep if we missed out on this lad…
    A player i would love to see us go all out for and have mentioned him years ago and would fit our buying young players is XHERDAN SHAQIRI this is exactly the type of player we need and want….
    The lad was the main culprit in Basel knocking MUFC out UCL a few seasons ago got his move to Bayern and has a tough time getting in team due to Ribery…
    Have seen him linked to LVPL and would be gutted if they got him if possible i would rather due some sort of HBA(if rumours are true that LVPL are interested) for Sterling and Borini or Spearing and cash and use it towards SHAQIRI then buy Remy and we will be very entertaining what do u think?

  • 22 Belfast // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    I do admire your faith in the current regime Tds.

    I don’t no where It comes from, but fair play to you.

  • 23 geordie racer // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    Yes theyve had three offers but not one has been accepted. The other two clubs are thought to be Cardiff and a French team, probably marseille.

    To be honest I don’t think we’ll ‘miss out on him’ I think we just won’t make a bid.
    Gomis is a striker, a hold up man and an outlet. Stands to reason he would be our number 9.
    In my opinion we were only looking at him due to the Cisse saga, and now that Cisse has reached an agreement with the club, we’ll more than likely back off.
    I think Remy is the player we’ve always been after since missing out on Aubemeyang, and I’m confident we will get him. He can play wide, and alongside Cisse, not instead of him.
    Bent is a possibility I think, as a back-up striker and someone to push Cisse or come in if someone is injured. That will more than likely see Cambell going on loan, and the future of Ameobi is uncertain.

  • 24 brklyngeordie // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:05 PM

    I know that im living in lala land and that the writing is on wall taht we will bring no one in have a few leave frustrate the hell out of Pardew leave us thin for season get smashed a few times and the morons that be will wait for him to resign. Feel like this season will be one big game of chicken between board and coaching staff.

  • 25 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    Belfast

    My comment doesn’t have anything to do with faith, just common sense.

    3 interested clubs doesn’t equal 3 bids. It’s that simple.

  • 26 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:08 PM

    fading – my backside
    we were never in for him, just another toon story.

    why don’t they just come clean and say we are doing no business
    unless
    we sell one of our purpleeeeeeees

  • 27 Jail for Ashley // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:10 PM

    Goodfella,
    I for one kept impartial on the whole Cisse/w@nga affair as I had never seen a statement to confirm whether it was a religious or moral stance, but those people who did back him will not be going anywhere as they will be on here to share their views as always as they seem to have a lot more intelligence than you LOL.

  • 28 Bring Back Laurent Robert // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    Against Man City I fully expect this to be our line-up, injures permitting:

    _______________Krul_______________
    Debuchy___Mbiwa___Colo___Santoon
    __________Tiote(groan)_Sissoko
    _______________Cabaye
    ___HBA_____________________Remy__
    _______________Cisse

    Subs: Elliot, Saylor, Anita ,Jonas ,Marveaux Gouffran, Shola.

    It’s creeping up on us, just over 3 weeks to go!

  • 29 John Tudor // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    spot on charlie

  • 30 Ben3arfa // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    A faulty pacemaker made in China is too good for Kinnear

    Dirty old cockney filth

  • 31 Rotonda heights // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    geordie racer,

    I think you’re spot on there. Remy in the absence of P.E.A is the closest option to let us play a potent 433 again.

    Krul

    Debs
    Colo
    M’Biwa
    Haidara / Santon

    Sissoko
    Cabaye
    Anita / Tiote

    Benny / Marveaux
    Cisse / Gouffran
    Remy

  • 32 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    Ben3arfa

    You’re getting as bad as Indian with your one track record.

  • 33 Toon1978 // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    Getting pretty peed off now. Seem’s like Ashley is ready to shaft the supporters once again and his puppet Pardew the coward that he is is making excuses already. We need 2 bloody strikers it’s as simple as that. Sick of this club and it’s excuses. Every club has done business yet we stand still and to make matters worse we have a buffoon of a man in JK who is in charge of bringing players in and negotiating with these players. The man has no tact at all. Stop making excuse Mr Pardew and demand reinforcements you pussy. Mr Ashley, please sell up and concentrate on your tatty shops. HWTL!!!!

  • 34 Jail for Ashley // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    Belfast,
    @22 fairplay to you for your fairplayness.

  • 35 lesh // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    Reeeelaaaaaax. Joe’s on the case. Oh well that’s another one bites the dust!

  • 36 Gazza18 // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:20 PM

    May I gain some cultural knowledge? Why do you English refer French players as “Purples”? I have absolutely no problem with it, just curious :)

  • 37 Belfast // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    I was meaning in general Tds.
    You seem to have a lot of faith in Ashley and co.

    Just an observation lol

  • 38 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    Toon1978

    Sell up to who? Don’t be ridiculous. I don’t see many billionaire potential buyers hovering around, do you?

    If you’re sick of the club, do one.

  • 39 WWYCD // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    We need two strikers, Gomis and Remy are available for knock down prices so what’s the hold up? Big turnover boost to the club should free up more capital than we have ever had before and yet here we wait

  • 40 Ben3arfa // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    Yes because Kinnear is a moron who is dragging the club down. He doesnt get critcized enough IMO

    Our failure during this window is down to him and his almighty boss

  • 41 JackButler // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    Cisse is staying so it’ll be like a new signing anyway

  • 42 Toon1978 // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    NO! And i am entitled to an opinion..you do one :)

  • 43 Belfast // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    I’m a reasonable bloke jail lol

  • 44 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    Belfast

    I have faith in MA as a shrewd businessman, but he’s made mistakes as a football club owner
    I have faith in Pardew as a manager, but he’s made mistakes as a tactician
    I have faith in JFK as…er…as…ummm…

  • 45 lesh // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    Gazza18

    All of our purples are referred to as purples because they’re marooned in a footballing desert!

    Think about it……

  • 46 Toon1978 // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    And i didn’t say there was any billionaires hanging around.

  • 47 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    Our failure during this window is Ashley thinking that Kinnear would be anything other than an idiot.

    The problem isn’t Pardew, or Kinnear, or any other staff member.

    The problem is Ashley, so let’s direct the criticism where it should be directed.

  • 48 Jail for Ashley // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    I read a comment on the previous thread about clubs struggling in the EL, well imo mid table clubs who get there by beating second string teams to win or lose a final over seven or eight games probably will, teams that finish fifth and with the right investment not only win the EL but go on to do very well in the CL and win Europe wide acclaim.

  • 49 John Tudor // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    are they purples as they are far from gold

  • 50 Goodfella // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    @ 15
    I don’t think he refused to wear it because he wanted a move away, it’s just strange that its been sorted without giving his real reasons why he didnt want to wear it in the first place and why he now will.

  • 51 Hatem's better than Messi // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:27 PM

    Gazza

    All players that are top quality starting eleven players are called “purples”. Nationality doesn´t matter.

    It´s a bit weird I think it was Llambias that first mentioned “purples”.

  • 52 archaeomag // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:27 PM

    ’78
    put your money where your mouth is . . .
    I would guess he would take £250 -300 mill at a push – I can’t afford it, how about you?

  • 53 wynsleap // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:28 PM

    Forget Shola – his ineffective half a dozen games per season when he is actually fit, does not count in our situation.
    If we go into the season with just Cisse and Gouffran we may as well just pack it in, or as Fraser in Dad’s Army would say, “We’re dooomed I tell ya, doomed”.
    This club management and ownership is just devoid of any common sense whatsoever.

  • 54 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    Toon1978

    We’re all entitled to opinions, but why resort to insults and outlandish demands?

    MA is actually better than Shepherd, you have a short memory.

    We need one striker and one attacking player who can maybe also play striker. That’s not much to have the squad that we deserve.

    How about we give the club a chance to meet our expectations? We should be targeting 7th place.

  • 55 Toon1978 // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    Mag (52)

    Wish i had the money lol. Sorry for an opinion. Must have stepped on a few toes. Not that a give a fly sh1te like :)

  • 56 geordie racer // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    Rotonda – yeah mate, when you look at who we are linked with and where they would play it makes sense.
    Also explains why most reports RE Gomis say that no bid has been accepted, which shows we were looking, not buying.
    Remy would be a great signing, but my only worry is which side would he play?
    Watch any compilation video and he’s very much a right sided player. All his goals are from that side of the pitch.
    Cisse wants to play in the middle, and that works but would Ben Arfa but suited on the left?
    Gouffran can play there and he’s quite a decent little player, but it would mean dropping ben Arfa to the bench when everyone is fully fit.
    Benny could play on the left of a front three but he’s far more dangerous cutting in onto his left and shooting or crossing in.
    I fear Pards will try to accommodate by playing 4-2-3-1 and it could mean Sissokko playing on the left of the formation as he did in the last friendly.
    It would look like this…
    Krul
    Debuchy Collo Mbiwa/Taylor Santon
    Cabaye Tiote
    Remy Ben Arfa Sissokko
    Cisse

    I also fear for Cisse playing up top on his own in that formation. Against the better teams, or any team for that matter, when we are under the cosh and Pards is telling that bank of 3 to defend, Cisse would be alone up front and he’s useless at holding it up. This might work if it was Gomis, but Cisse doesn’t have that ability.

  • 57 Jamesthefirst // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    Don’t understand those naming a first 11 against Man City and not having Jonas in it. Have you learnt nothing from last season??

    Doesn’t matter who we buy, Jonas will start the first game of the season. Pardew ALWAYS plays Jonas. Regardless of form or merit.

    That will not change…unfortunately.

  • 58 archaeomag // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    @Hatem’s better than Messi
    I bet it was a colour coded spreadsheet Llambrini had with their ££ on .

  • 59 scout // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    He obviously doesn’t want to spend any money, what a tool. He’s got a team with the foundations to really push on and he signs no one.
    Crack on with your suitcases……

  • 60 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    Toon1978

    Then he can’t sell up.

    It’s a but like your neighbour not liking you and your family but demanding you sell up despite there being no offers on the table anywhere near the asking price.

  • 61 jonobbad // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    Shepherd is better than ashley. Absolutely nothing to say otherwise.
    less debt
    better football
    more ambition/passion for nufc

  • 62 Toon1978 // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    How long are we gonna wait for the club to meet our expectations? Please remind me the last time our club won a domestic trophy of any true value? I have had a season ticket for close to 35 years and i can remember the good days of KK producing one of the best team i have seen in black n white and i have followed them all over Europe……..still no trophies. If i have offended you then i apologies!

  • 63 Gazza18 // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    I see now, thx for your help! I did not meant to be racist or anything… Starting 11, huh?! Then I almost got it, since our starting 11 consist of mostly French/French-speaking players.

  • 64 JackButler // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    When club’s like Norwich, Swansea and West Ham show more ambition than us we really should pack up and head for home.

    Being run on a shoestring budget will only get us so far as if we fail (again) this summer to get the players we need, ie strikers, we may not be as lucky as we were last season

  • 65 Jail for Ashley // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    TDsarf,
    Before making statements like Mashley is better than Shepherd you should start it with imo Ma…..

  • 66 ~Joke-innear~ // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    Jamesthefirst speaks the truth. Jonas is nailed on to start any game he is fit for. Whether it be at left back, right back, right wing, left wing, central mid or as a gk. He will get a spot in the starting 11…

    Tiote as well is almost always gonna start despite the fact that he was sh1te 90% of last season

  • 67 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    This Gomis carry on has got the Remy saga part two written all over it.

    Too lacklustre in getting in and showing the player we really want him, instead trailing at a snails pace whilst other clubs show an interest at the last minute. No wonder fans think it’s a farce and that it’s only to look as if they are going in for players.

    What is the odds of us being outdone by wages now..

    If we lose this lad, once again, this regime have failed NUFC.

    This window has been open 6 weeks now to move in for our targets.

    If I showed this kind of attidude in my job, If I treated my job in such a manner I’d be sacked.

  • 68 NotEvenGeordie // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    Instead of squabbling like children over inane rubbish, how about some comments about the article? If you want to be childish and argue over the Internet, get on twitter.

    So why exactly are our hopes on gomis fading? Because a bloke whos trying to sell a player says they’ve received 3 bids? Yeah, it’s not like he’s trying to scare us into bidding. We need a striker, they need to sell, our players know him, he knows our players, pardew has admitted we want him. We’ll get him by the end of next week.

  • 69 wolfshead@toon // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    jono

    as much as hate to say it ur right i was never a fan of shepherd but i am starting to get nostalgic about his reign haha

  • 70 ~Joke-innear~ // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    Bryan Ruiz anybody?

  • 71 toon kk // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    TDS
    Just wondering are you happy with MA and the running of the club?

  • 72 Mister Tuff // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    gazza18 the colour purple is a high value casino chip. Derek Llambias ran a casino before he came to SJP. He introduced the term at the club – meaning a high value player.
    I thought we would have dropped the use of this word but it seems not.

  • 73 Toon1978 // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    NotEvenGeordie

    Very true…my apologies :)

  • 74 workyticket // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    “Aulas posted the message on Twitter today, when he was asked the question – had there been any interest for Gomis – this is what Aulas tweeted:

    “Yes at least 3?.

    “We suppose that could mean clubs just expressing an interest in the striker rather than actual bids, but we just hope that Newcastle have formally put their bid in, because yesterday had told the French channel Canal +”

    Ed, you’ve written often enough about your ezperience of working fairly high with a certain major multinational computing company, yet you can’t see through one of the oldest strategies in the book from this wily old French fox?: Really? ;-)

  • 75 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    How about a competition? People can guess:
    – number of first team players signed this summer
    – number of first team players sold this summer
    – number of “purples” sold the summer

  • 76 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    Are we going to do the Ashley vs Shepherd again?

    Arrrggghhh.

    Don’t compare one sh!t owner with another sh!t owner.

  • 77 scout // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    Some purples turned into browns IMO very overated

  • 78 jonobbad // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    Wolf
    I know what you mean.
    Not saying he was a saint and he had plenty of flaws.
    But all my best nufc memories are under him.
    All my worst are under ashley.
    Says it all really.

  • 79 Belfast // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    I think if we fail to sign the players we need in this window, it will just prove once for all they’re only interested in premier league survival/ mid table.

    Basically happy to stay in the top league, while the tv money gets higher and higher every season.

    Ferk this pushing on to the next level malarkey.
    It costs to much lol

  • 80 Hatem's better than Messi // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    I´d be happy with just Remy.
    I´m not sure Gomis is good enough.

    Pardew’s pick is Bent so perhaps he´ll come in?
    He does seem happy to spit the dummy and not perform so I´m apprehensive about the Mackem has been sitting on our bench for four years..

    Cisse, Remy, Gouffran and Shola should see us through to January and hopefully we can scout and add another striker then.

  • 81 geordie racer // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:41 PM

    Incase anyone is interested the two other parties interested in Gomis are Rubin Kazan and Fenerbache.
    His priority is an England move over Russia or Turkey.
    Only problem seems to be whether Newcastle will bid. And now that Cisse is staying i don’t think we will but I hope I’m wrong

  • 82 JackButler // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    While those around us continue to strengthen we continue to dither

    So much for the benefits of having your new players in for pre season

  • 83 Toon1978 // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    One extreme to another. Sheapard bought above his mean, Ashley is just one tight gittt. At least Shepard showed some ambition although it could have ended the club. I dont expect Ashley to spend 20 – 30 million. I expect him to spend around 15 million this summer. Is that to much to ask for a paying customer wanting to see his team succeed??

  • 84 Jail for Ashley // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    Mister Tuff,
    Good evening,
    I have only ever used the purple statement with Irony and sarcasm I hope I never hear it mentioned again.

  • 85 wolfshead@toon // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    hatem

    we wont get remy ashley will piss about trying to get the lowest possible price and either someone else will get him or harry will tell him to shove it the guys thick as shit

  • 86 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    If the powers that be are naive enough to think that because Cisse is staying then we don’t need another striker, then I sincerely hope the likes of Bills and TDS will shut up about how great Ashley is.

  • 87 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    JfA

    Fair point! Although I am amazed that anyone would disagree with me…

  • 88 Belfast // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    What’s the odds on Pardew saying Cisse is just like a new signing ? lol

  • 89 Toon1978 // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    People disagree with me everyday but what makes you so special as to expect people to agree with you lol?

  • 90 Hatem's better than Messi // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    I enjoyed being a supporter more under Shepherd.
    At least we had dreams.
    I´m depressed about the club and really have been since the Keegan fiasco.
    Mid-table is now a success and the target.
    Europe is a problem and disrupts Alan´s Monday to matchday training methods.

    The faster Ashley sells the better.

  • 91 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    toon kk

    Depends what you mean. I think the club is being run in a sensible way from the business and financial side of things.

    I’ve not been to impressed with some of the footballing decisions, but I don’t think he deserves all the flak he gets

  • 92 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    TDS

    Perhaps it’s all the verbal skitter you type.

  • 93 JackButler // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    I’m no fan of Sheppard, but he never oversaw a relegation of this club, something that Ashley’s naivety and stupidity created

  • 94 Bring Back Laurent Robert // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    Anyone who thinks we need 2 STs is just setting themselves up so they can have a grand moan when we don’t get them. Get real, we play 1 central ST and already have Cisse, Gouffran and Shola (whether you like it or not). We’ll sign one, I have no doubt, probably Remy because we know he was a prime target previously and is versatile, so will likely slot straight into LW. Why would a player like Gomis who’s just scored 20 goals last season, come here to kick his heels on the bench? The only chance we’ll get a second is if Shola is shifted on, which all the noises recently indicate he won’t. Even then it would’t be someone in the class of Gomis, probably that’s the scenario Bent is earmarked for, although again, why would he slash his wages to swap one bench for another, unless he’d take not being frozen out like he is at Villa, as reason enough.

  • 95 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    Toon1978

    I expect that too. But it’s not MA’s money, it’s NUFC’s money!

  • 96 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    TDS
    0
    2
    0

    What’s your point?
    That were clearing the decks and reducing the wage bill this summer and that’s it?

  • 97 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    Is there any other club who fart around in there quest to sign players.
    Most other clubs target a player put in a offer do the medical and sign.

    We fart, f**k about, fart, f**k about, deal on, deal off, to much money, to high a wage, got a wart on his nose, ingrowing toe nails, piles and after all that we were not interested really.

  • 98 Toon1978 // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    Hatem’s better than Messi

    Couldn’t agree more.

  • 99 wolfshead@toon // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:47 PM

    tds

    were we ever relagated under shepherd?

  • 100 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    Hatem’s

    Sure, I enjoyed some times under Shepherd, but only really under SBR, the rest was dire with mostly bottom half finishes, have you forgotten???

    And Shepherd was passionate sure…he bought several marquee players and the fans thought it was great. But lots of these players were terrible! And what he didn’t tell us is that the players were signed with money that we hadn’t even received yet!

  • 101 Krul To Be Kind // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    Gazza – It was before the recent French influx… It was a Lambrini quote a while back we had a team full of ‘purple’ = top players

  • 102 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    Cisse is just like a new signing and we couldn’t get the players over the line will probably be the excuses.

  • 103 low fell mag // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    We are not the only supporters in the premier who are going mad
    Arsenal still have not signed
    Moyes cannot attract anybody,@ Rooneys off
    Liverpool are going to loose Suarez
    Spurs are going to loose Bale
    So, we are not the only ones feeling sorry ,just have a little faith .
    Trust big Mike! he will get it right.

  • 104 geordie racer // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    Wolfshead – most reports this afternoon have said we have had a bid accepted by QPR for Remy.
    Odds on him coming to Newcastle are 1/3

    It’s all just talk but I would say if we sign any striker this summer it will be him. I hope that we also get another.

  • 105 Toon1978 // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    Ashley wet his knickers in the winter window as we where doing terrible in the league hence the reason he spent 20 million to get his greedy hands on this big money deal at the end of last season. God, i love MA me hahaha :)

  • 106 Belfast // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    The only thing positive about the Ashley regime for me was the 5th place miracle finish.

    But they even soured that with the sports direct arena rubbish. The rest has just been a car crash to be fair lol

  • 107 WWYCD // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    Remember when all the news was Rafa coming to Newcastle because he’s used to working with a small budget…seen how much he’s spent at Napoli?

  • 108 Szarka // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    Not bids, just interest. No official bids, as I know.

  • 109 Toon1978 // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    Even Blackpool signed Chopra hahaha.

  • 110 JackButler // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    WWYCD

    We all wanted Raffa but ended up with Kinnear…..typical

  • 111 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    TADS

    Just interested to see who gets it right in the end!

    I reckon we’ll sign 2, sell 1 and no purples leaving.

  • 112 wolfshead@toon // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    geordie

    i hope so but if thats true why no news…

  • 113 Mister Tuff // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    jail – evening – I honestly thought the term purple would have died a death after Dastardly left – seems one or two lads still use the term.

  • 114 Jail for Ashley // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    My biggest disappointment with the Hall/ Shepherd regime was that they sacked SBR and slagged of the fans that time through drunken stupidity, a bit disappointing to find out that two multi millionaires felt the need to pocket the cash they did, Mashley on the other hand has publicly tried to humiate us twice defamed two legends and whst he sctually hasn’t pocketed he has reduced our revenues per season by 40 0dd M compared to Spurs to suit his own needs in SD which value has increased 40% , so considering the money JH/FS took out compared to what that fat fusk has cost us , it is actually quite small in comparison.

  • 115 croftus5678 // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    my moral is fading by the day and thats not to be negative !
    our team has got stronger from last year as players have got better but i’m thinking other teams have got stronger than us with there new recruits.

    personally i see my standards dropping by the day as in pea was 1st choice (even though it was far fetched) then bony then ideye now remy/gomis and if we lose them will we settle for even less of a player ?

    few weeks to go i know but atm i’m feeling like we are not going to get anyone of quality as we just dont seem bothered atm (all i hear is this and that person on hols or we’ve enquired but no bids)

  • 116 geordie racer // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    @soccer_sauce: Loic Remy expected in the North East tomorrow to finalise talks over transfer to Newcastle.Fee agreed in region of £6m. #NUFC #QPR

  • 117 WWYCD // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    JB
    Haha bout our luck face it

  • 118 Toon1978 // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    If we bring in one striker and keep our best players then happy days. Just a little worried we are weak down that left hand side also.

  • 119 wolfshead@toon // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    geordie

    chins up then :-)

  • 120 John Tudor // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    name three teams worse than us and give reasons

  • 121 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    JfA

    Sacking SBR was a disgrace! They also slagged off Shearer as “Mary Poppins” if you remember. And took millions out of the club every year.

    MA tried to be popular with the KK choice but it was an awful football choice. If he was such a good manager, then he’d have been in high demand…Shearer was a cock up too. I don’t blame Shearer for taking the job as he bleeds black and white, but he wasn’t the right man for the job. We needed someone experienced to stablise the club.

    Spurs’ revenue has increased due to consistent top 10 finishes and several forays into Europe. That gets them more revenue from the PL, more from UEFA and makes them more marketable for sponsors. Meanwhile, we have had mostly bottom half finishes in the PL.

  • 122 Toon1978 // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    I would be happy with Remy. Would be ecstatic with Remy, Gomis and Sinclair but that is asking to much i suppose.

  • 123 JackButler // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Rooney to Chelsea for 35 million
    Bale to Madrid for 85 million

    The footballing world has officially gone mad

  • 124 Toon73 // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    I’ve got more chance of playing for NUFC than Gomis.

  • 125 WWYCD // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    Whatever happened to the Will Hughes link?

  • 126 geordie racer // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    Croftus – there’s no evidence to suggest we were ever interested in Bony (Especially at £12m), and Ideye Brown was light rumour, nothing more.
    Remy was definitely second choice behind PEA and we all know we wanted him in January.
    We put a bid in for Gomis in 2010 when Keegan was at the club. So he’s always been in our sights. This is not a case of going for 5th, 6th on our short list or of desperation.
    And the reason we are sniffing around Bent is due to Pardews admiration for him.

  • 127 JackButler // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    Get French Football ?@GFN_France 1m
    Rumours regarding a Newcastle approach for Bakary Kone are completely false it has emerged. #OL #NUFC

  • 128 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 25, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    TDS
    I think your probably right but I just don’t think it’s enough
    It’s not just the squad that needed investment this summer
    The coaches needed updating, fair play on the fitness coach but that won’t change the fact that we can’t coach the lads into stringing 2 passes together!

    I know Ashley splits opinions but for me I’ve seen enough to make my own opinion, and that is he simply isn’t right for the club and the club isn’t right for him

    I selling up and increasing his/his business’s share’s in rangers would be the best decision for him, gaurunteed to make money attracting huge crowds in the bottom division!
    The only problem being somebody meeting his valuation of the club

    I think we’re not only stuck with him, but he’s stuck with the club, I don’t think he wants it, he’s tried to sell it and he can’t

  • 129 low fell mag // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    Toon 1978 blog 105 .
    Are you giving Ashley stick for spending money.
    The bloke cannot win, he spends nowt and gets hammered
    He was the biggest spender in Jan earlier in the year and gets hammered.
    The bloke cannot win.

  • 130 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    Apart from Keegan (effectively 4 top 10 finishes) and SBR (3 top 10 finishes), the only other managers to get us into the top 10 have been Roeder and Pardew.

    Otherwise, we have had 10 finishes in the bottom half and one promotion campaign in the last 20 seasons.

    So we’ve only been top half for half of the time! So how would that make us anything other than a mid-table PL team historically???

    Top half is an achievement when you consider that. But we should be getting 7th or 8th every year.

  • 131 Gazza18 // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    @ Mister Tuff @ Krul To Be Kind

    Now I get everything, thank you for making the “purple situation” clear to me! :)

  • 132 Belfast // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    They’ve actually treated every manager that’s worked under them like shite.

    Apart from Kinnear of course lol

  • 133 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:02 PM

    Yo
    Will Hughes was valued at £10 million apparently, no chance !

  • 134 Goodfella // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:02 PM

    http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/417448/Chelsea-boss-Jose-Mourinho-s-regret-over-Newcastle-s-Davide-Santon?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-sport-news+%28Daily+Express+%3A%3A+Sport+Feed%29

    Interesting.

  • 135 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    @ WWYCD

    How many mangers do you know that would turn down funds like :) .

    I really hope Remy is the striker we bring in. Under Pardew the only formation that will get us playing football I really enjoy watching would be 4-3-3 with Remy on the left.

    ——————————-Krul——————————-

    –Debuchy——–M’biwa——–Collocini——–Santon–

    ———-Sissoko——————————-Anita———–
    ——————————Cabaye—————————–

    ——–HBA—————–Cisse—————Remy——–

    It is set up perfectly to play a 4-5-1 away from home like WBA away when we won 3-1 (one of the best NUFC away performances I have ever seen) and we can demolish teams at home with Remy & HBA causing havoc.

    Cabaye a little further forward, Anita to cover Santon as he is defensively week and Sissoko’s speed on the counter attack will be perfect. That is the team and formation I would play as NUFC manager. Thoughts ?

  • 136 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    TADS

    I agree with your last statement. It’s sad because when he first came in, I think he wanted to be one of the lads, but that backfired when he made a decision that he thought the fans would love. It wasn’t the right decision for the football club and when he tried backpedalling he only made it worse. Sad.

    So now he’s running us as a business. We will have a solid club on an excellent footing when he sells up and until then I think we just have to accept that the club is going to be run with less passion than we had beforehand.

    I accept that and hope the next owner doesn’t make the early screw ups that MA did.

  • 137 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    TDS

    You’re giving me diabetes.

    West Brom finished top half last season, as did West Ham, and they’re pretty average. If that’s the standard we’re aiming for then let’s just not bother signing anyone.

  • 138 Toon1978 // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    low fell mag

    He spent money in January for one reason and that was to save the club from relegation. I fear for the club if we make no signings. We have went from 5th top to 16th in one season. That’s one big drop. No one is asking for him to spend bloody mega bucks…..he needs strikers can’t you see that?

  • 139 toon kk // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    I think a striker will come through the door, but remember the club is struggling there’s very little money spare. Also Pardew would like new signings but he thinks we’ll manage! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 140 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:05 PM

    Also on that away day against West Brom we had Gutierrez and Guthrie in the middle with Ba on the left. Our midfield now is stronger and Remy on the left with his pace will work much better than with Ba.

  • 141 WWYCD // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    toonarmydownsouth
    Hmm ah well the kid can rot in the championship then rot on a top 4 teams bench I suppose

    BPC
    None but everyone was convinced he’d be coming to us haha

  • 142 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    Yes, we were 16th last season and only got 41 points. But had we won that last game, we would have finished with more points than 2008/9 (obviously), 2007/8, 2006/7 and equal with 2004/5 and 1997/8.

    That’s 5 seasons about as bad as the one we had last year. 6 seasons with 44 points or less out of 19 seasons in the PL! That’s a third!

    So where do some people get off in thinking that we should be challenging for Europe every season? It takes time to get there and not destabilising the club on a whim.

  • 143 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    I forgot…

    FACT.

  • 144 wolfshead@toon // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    low fell

    he wanted those players in this summer when they would be cheaper/free thats the whole argument he doesnt learn about his penny pinching causing potential disaster

  • 145 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    Anyone else incredibly bored by the book balancer?

  • 146 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    Ruddy

    And we finished above Chelsea and Liverpool the season before, yet they have every right to expect that they would finish above us. They had a higher valued squad, a higher wage bill, bigger revenue etc. They should not have finished below us but they did. That’s what football is all about.

    We were only 8 points behind West Brom, the league was so tight. We shouldn’t have finished below them but we did.

  • 147 Toon1978 // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    TDS

    I dont expect us to be in Europe….i just want a couple of signings to freshen things up lol.

  • 148 geordie racer // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    Big Pappis Cisse – I can’t recall having seen Remy play on the left any point in the last few years. He’s a right sided attacker. All of his goals come from the right hand side.
    He could probably do a job on the left, cutting in, like HBA does on his side, but I wouldnt automatically assume he will be a world beater there. I would have thought it would be more logical to play HBA on the left, considering he is left footed.

  • 149 Jamesthefirst // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    Can’t wait for the JK press conference to announce Remy has joined us:

    “I would like to welcome Lukey Remmeney to Newcastle. He is a player I personally spotted playing on a park when he was five years old. I have followed his career with interest ever since and even spent some time with him in France teaching him how to play football even better. He will be a great signing for me, I mean Alan, *murmurs ‘while he’s still here’* and I am sure the fans will love to see his link up play with Sissy”

  • 150 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    Toon1978

    Me too. And if we don’t have them by 1st Sept then I’ll be p*ssed off. Simple as that. But it’s not 1st Sept yet.

  • 151 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    Conspiracy theory NO.1 :

    Maybe Ashley hopes we get relegated this season so he can get the massive parachute payment of I think £ 60 million. Then he will get another £ 60 million TV money this season and we will have made over £100 million. Then Ashley sells up . You never know :)

  • 152 JackButler // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    Ruddy

    We spend to survive, not to succeed

  • 153 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    TDS

    You do realise that people’s expectations are based upon the infrastructure at the club, the fan base, income etc it is not based on our previous PL finishes.

    You’ve just described how badly run the club has been in the past, and how badly the club is still currently being ran.

    If the club is run properly, i.e with a bit of ambition, this club would absolutely take off.

    Look at what Dortmund have done in Germany and you will see what positive, ambitious ownership (albeit they are owned by the fans) then you will see there is no limit to what can be achieved.

  • 154 toonking // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    JB
    football has been in a mess for years it all started in 1992.
    what I think has already been ruined is international football.

  • 155 wolfshead@toon // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    james

    sounds about right hahaha

  • 156 Jail for Ashley // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    TDsarf,
    Where do you get this Mikey wanted to be popular thing from, we were looking like being relegated and knew KK would save the day but didn’t eant him long term so brought DW to fusk him off, he thought Shearer would have the same effect, do you honestly think Shearer would have stayed if we had of stayed up, he’d of been slagged saying he wanted 50M and Alan Curbishley would have been brought here.

  • 157 JackButler // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    We need any players we sign in asap, preferably as pre season kicks off, especially if these signings are from oversea’s,

  • 158 Toon1978 // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    TDS

    By go i know its September yet. I have kids off on six weeks holiday…you dont need to remind me, head’s battered lol. I am obviously less patient then you. Just feel like we are being led up the garden path so to speak!

  • 159 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    JB

    I agree with you man. At the most we will be mid table for the next 3/4 seasons.

    Can’t say I am looking forward to the next few years.

  • 160 low fell mag // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    John Tudor @120
    I could list more than 3 teams easily worse than us .
    In your opinion and if you are not talking b@llocks,that means you think we are going to be relegated.
    If your a betting man I will have a little flutter with you.
    IFwe get relegated I will give you £300 ,if we stay up you give me £100.
    You will probably decline, as you just talk nonsense .
    But the bets there if you think im talking nonsense.
    Look forward to your reply!

  • 161 Mister Tuff // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    Changing the subject slightly to Davide Santon. I’ve posted abut him a few times in his defence after he gets slagged off by other posters. Whilst there have been a few occasions he has be caught upfield – and out of position after a forward run -and took ages to get back. There are times when nobody has covered his position whilst he started a forward run. He has been slagged off bya lot on here by those who think they can spot a bad player. Well it seems that a bloke called Mourinho has today been praising Santon.
    Eat humble pie you poor assessors of who is a good footballer – to each of you I have pleasure in awarding you my weekly award – the “Ted the Tool” award.

  • 162 JackButler // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    toonking

    It’s no longer a ‘Working man’s sport’ it’s simply a corporate juggernaut for the rich

  • 163 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    @ Racer

    I have seen a lot of him in France and at times he plays like a Winger and has the skills to beat a man or two. Switching flanks is easy enough to do. If it was me I would put HBA on the weakest fullback or Remy on the slowest one.

    I reckon the three pronged attack we will see :

    Cisse – 20 goals
    Remy – 12-15 goals
    Ben Arfa – 8-10 goals
    Cabaye – 5-7 goals
    Sissoko – 3-5 goals

    The rest of the first team and squad chipping in with a few more.

  • 164 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    Mister Tuff

    Mourinho is a great coach, but he is merely sharing his opinion on Santon, his opinion proves nothing.

    Santon is a poor defender, good going forward, but positionally, and defensively, he is not up to scratch.

  • 165 Toon1978 // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    Mister Tuff

    I love Santon mate…..quality player.

  • 166 JackButler // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    Santon is still only 22, so is a long way from being the finished article, when he is the finished article we’ll probably sell him ;)

  • 167 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    Ruddy

    Yes. And if you look at revenue etc. we are 7th or 8th in the PL so that’s what we should be targeting.

    The fanbase…based on what? Our average attendance or our global fanbase? 90% of Newcastle United fans live in Newcastle, whereas the clubs above us have loads of fans all over the country.

    The club cannot take off in the same way as a club in the German league, they’re just run differently. And there are more superrich clubs in the PL so it makes it very tough. We will never be able to compete financially with Man Utd, Chelsea or Citeh while their owners remain unless we get a similar billionaire owner and FFP rules are relaxed. So we’re competing with 2 very run richer clubs in Spurs and Arsenal for that final CL place. We would need that CL place to get the players, the revenue and the exposure (for sponsors) to grow the club.

    So, it’s damn damn hard!

    And I’d rather see us consolidate and grow slowly so we’re pushing for the CL places in 3/4 years, rather than gamble on a 10% chance that we’ll get into the CL and a 90% chance that we’ll totally destabilise the club and get relegated with huge debts again…

  • 168 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    Mister Tuff
    It’s a great article on santoon
    Have said many many times on here that he is hands down our most exciting and promising youngster, think people forget his age and that he’s still learning simply due to the impressive career he has had for a lad if his age

  • 169 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    TDS

    When you come out with a stat “90% of NUFC fans live in Newcastle” you do realise that I know you’ve made that up?

  • 170 check the toastie // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:21 PM

    David Santon is a Rolls Royce of a footballer and anybody with an eye for talent can spot that. People who have a go at the lad fail to appreciate he usually has a total no-mark like Jonas in front of him, so he has to gamble on creating something.

    It was no coincidence that when he was injured back end of last season the whole pace of our attacking moves disappeared. He is a major player for us.

    Also when will the penny drop with people, It doesn’t matter who we sign or which eleven start the game, the whole problem of the club is Pardew, he is dragging the whole town down with his lack of vision and needs to be SACKED as soon as possible.

    PARDEW OUT

  • 171 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:21 PM

    JfA

    The fans hated Big Sam, despite him having a decent record. He wouldn’t have got us relegated. Ashley got rid of him because the fans didn’t like the style of play and he put in KK instead. Then he realised that KK was a loose cannon and he couldn’t work with him on transfers, so he brought someone in as an intermediary.

    Mistake bringing in KK, mistake trying to fix your first mistake by adding a mistake in DW. Mistake trying to cover up your first two mistakes…big mistakes…

  • 172 Jail for Ashley // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    TDsarf,
    You are a misleading fuskin idiot FACT, four of those six seasons we’re under Mike Ashley.

  • 173 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    @ Tuff

    No one has asid he is a bad player. Don’t think I have seen anyone on here want him sold. Attacking wise he is great (although his end product needs to be better) but if you think he is a great defender you are kidding yourself.

    He is young and will probably improve his defending with age but you get massively punished in the PL for bad defending. IMO he needs to work on:

    His left foot
    When to attack
    His heading game
    Positional awareness

    Everything else is money and he has the potential to be one of the best full backs we have ever had.

  • 174 Toon1978 // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    We have a bigger fan base around the world then people realise. Granted nothing compared to other EPL clubs.

  • 175 wolfshead@toon // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    tads

    im just shocked we spotted him at inter and then got him to sign for us it sounds almost like we knew what we were doing lol

  • 176 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    I totally agree. We need some signings. I guess I am just a bit more patient…I’d rather get the right player in rather than players like Austin, Rhodes or Hooper like some people have been saying…

  • 177 ~Joke-innear~ // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    Santon imo has not been as effective as Jose was for us… especially since Jose had that blistering partnership with Jonas down the left,

    However Santon has the ability and the potential to be better then Jose… that is if he focuses on defending and not trying to be a goalkeeper like a certain bull.

  • 178 Toon1978 // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    TBF Ashely struggles to work with any managers when it comes to transfers. It means spending money lol.

  • 179 Mister Tuff // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    Ruddy – my point is that perhaps Mourinho may have a “better eye” as to what constitutes a good player than the rest of us.

  • 180 Toon1978 // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    My patience has worn thin with this club over the years mate lol.

  • 181 geordie racer // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    @Big Pappis Cisse
    Nice one mate. Yeah I like the fact hes got pace and looks quite skilful. It could also be that he and HBA can alternate flanks I guess, as you say.
    Gouffran is there too to come in on the left so we have an option.
    Personally I think it would show progress and ambition if we were to go out and get two players rather than just Remy. And to move Shola on.
    Shola has been a decent ambassador for this club but he is not its future nor has he ever really been good enough.
    An attacking squad of Remy, Gomis, Cisse, Gouffran and HBA would look fantastic on paper and give us countless options on the pitch.

  • 182 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    JfA

    Actually only 3 of the seasons were under Mike Ashley. 1 was the season we got relegated in and the other was his first season in charge when we finished 12th with 43 points under Big Sam and then KK. The previous season we finished 13th with 43 points too but that was under Shepherd.

    You could also include 1998/9 where we finished in 13th with 46 points. Lots of mediocrity there…

  • 183 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    Mister Tuff

    He may do, but even if Mourinho said “Santon defended well last season” I would say “Jose, what the hell are you smoking?”

    He has so many things he needs to work on, he has bags of potential but he isn’t good enough offensively to justify his terrible defending.

    So he needs to improve a lot this season.

  • 184 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    Toon1978

    It’s NUFC’s money though mate, not MA’s. So either the club has got it or it hasn’t. If it hasn’t then it needs to borrow it. And if it borrow it, either MA gives an interest free loan again or we get it from other sources (and pay interest)…

  • 185 toonking // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    mister tuff
    it’s reasons like that “There are times when nobody has covered his position whilst he started a forward run”
    which I keep saying we need a decent winger not a HBA or marvo, we need a winger who will do the crosses santon was representing two position (FB and LW) and when we already have debuchy doing that as HBA is always forward and going into the centre we can’t afford the same trouble on the other side.
    santon I don’t mind but he need a pacy winger who plays like a winger not a forward who can move into the wing or a Jonas.

  • 186 ErnestHemingway // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    What do you base your optimism on? I’m just curious. To me it seems like blind faith rather than anything else. Are you religious by any chance?

  • 187 JackButler // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    ToonDarnSarf

    What people are really worried about is that we did the exact same thing last summer, we dithered and only enquired about this player or that player when we could all see that there were glaring flaws with the squad.

    Fast forward to January and Mike starts throwing money around in a bid to save our place in the league. We always fail to prepare and take our time so much that we have lost out an quite a few players and I would say that it is bordering on the majority that are thinking that the same thing is going to happen this window

  • 188 Mister Tuff // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    ref Santon – to be totally fair – Mourinho said something to the effect that under the right tutelage Santon would be a great player – enter Percy from stage left.

  • 189 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    TDS

    Jail’s point still stands. We’ve experienced more mediocre PL finishes under Mike Ashley than any other owner in the past 20 years.

    Kinda blows your love in out of the water does it not?

  • 190 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    Not bashing women or anything but my God they are leagues behind men’s football in terms of quality. I need my football fix so I will watch anything, yet I really believe I could go on the pitch and score a hat-trick without breaking a sweat.

  • 191 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    I’m outahere.

    Suggest some of you take a history lesson and look at the last 20 years of our club.

    9 top 10 finishes, 10 bottom half finishes and 1 promotion campaign.

    I know we have potential, but we need some consistency to achieve that. No club has suddenly gone from inconsistent to getting in the top 6 every year without spending loads of money.

  • 192 toon kk // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    Lets all face it we All know we have a decent squad But it isn’t good enough. We all want better players to lmprove us. Three or four would make a massive difference.
    But there’s one problem MA doesn’t see it that way. His way forward in his financial eyes is to keep costs down and hopefully we will be a solid premier league club through the kids coming on.
    Due to his lack of football knowledge he’s gambling with our future.

  • 193 Toon_Tom // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    Ruddy @169 – I laughed out loud at your comment there

  • 194 geordie racer // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    So hooper is off to Norwich.
    I was hoping he’d sign for QPR as it may have opened the door, wider, for Remy to sign for us.
    I’m still extremely confident we will sign Remy though.
    Norwich might impress next season. Van Wolfswinkle and Hooper up top. Hats off to Chrissy Hughton, wish him all the best, and I’m pleased he’s proving Ashley wrong.

  • 195 low fell mag // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    I think Santon will really kick on this season especially if Collo stays fit.
    The season before last we finished 5th was down to a steady defence with Collo organising the back line.

  • 196 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:37 PM

    @ Racer

    Don’t forget to add Marveaux to that list as well.

    Also why do people think the Wingers should be covering the full backs forward runs when a lot of times we play with two DM’s ? . Take Hazard for example, the only time I have seen him get stuck in was against a ball boy :) , That’s because Luiz and Mikel cover the flanks.

  • 197 Mister Tuff // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:40 PM

    toonking – ref Santon – I think if we had a winger to play on the same side a Santon it would be immense – the opposition would have a dilemma about who to mark -Santon surging forward -will he cut inside (as anticipated) or pass the ball out wide. It is not just about coaching Santon -other players should be coached with the aim of being able to play alongside Santon. Everybody knows he may cut inside but they cannot stop him.

  • 198 ~Joke-innear~ // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:40 PM

    Not to mention, Haidara will be challenging for the spot and has looked pretty effective down the left as well.

  • 199 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:44 PM

    Any news from the biggest Amateur Club in the North East?

  • 200 geordie racer // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    Toon Kk
    “we have a decent squad But it isn’t good enough…Three or four would make a massive difference…But there’s one problem MA doesn’t see it that way….Due to his lack of football knowledge he’s gambling with our future.”

    - completely agree with that pal. Well said. It’s all about small purchases, very business minded. No gambles. Everything has to be accounted for.
    Many on this forum argue that is a good thing, and sure if you consider football as a business but I’ve always argued that a gamble on 3-4 quality purchases which could push us up the league and increase our reputation would do wonders for our bank balance and we would recoup the outlay on the players.

    Big Pappis – yep, I like Marveaux too, sorry i missed him out. He may be on for a decent season, but I think it will depend on who is injured and when.
    As for the wingers argument, I’d rather see a Ben Arfa or Remy type winger than a head down grafter type winger like Gutierez.
    If we play Tiote, Cabaye and Sissokko in a middle three then yes, they should cover positions and flanks when the full backs bomb on.

  • 201 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:49 PM

    BPC…been asking that same question many times!

    …makes absolutely no sense what so ever!

  • 202 toonking // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:49 PM

    BPC
    their is a bit of a difference between a winger covering for a FB and a DM

    CDM are meant to prevent threats from down the middle if they are goint to cover the width their is now lots of space for the strikers and CAM as they now only have the CB.
    with wingers on the other hand they are already placed on the width so a player running up with the ball has to get past them and then it allows more cover in the centre as the CM can assist the CB.

  • 203 John Tudor // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:50 PM

    no i asked for three worse teams and reasons you answered back with,i’m talking rubbish ,where are the three and reasonable proof they are rubbish finally i never mention once we would be relegated we could finish 13 still have three worse teams than us and others relegated

  • 204 jazzyp // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:50 PM

    Good evening guys.
    90% Of our fans come from Newcastle-what a f@ckin moron.
    There is a massive fan base out of Newcastle that can be simply proven by the uk and global marketing worldwide.
    That’s like saying they only drink fosters in Australia

  • 205 geordie157 // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:51 PM

    Hooper to Norwich and Etienne capoue to Cardiff, impressive signings if they go through. What are playing at, we should be getting players in. such a frustrating window so far, just hope we have some good news soon.

  • 206 whome121212 // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    This Gomis situation does not bother me for a couple of reasons

    1. Pardew told the world he is interested in this guy…so the logic behind this is there must be something already in place for his signing (verbal agreement by Player)

    2. if the above is not true and pardew wanted everybody to think we are in for him then this by logic might be his plan to use Gomis as a smoke screen for the real targets

    Again one of the above 2 will be correct , if we are really in fo him and miss out … then pardew must really be an idiot who might have a bigger mouth then Kinnear

  • 207 Jail for Ashley // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    TDsarf,
    Again you’re being misleading to suit your argument, we were only under Mashley in the three you mentioned but you conveniently left out last season which would have made four out of 19 PL finishes in which hes been in charge of five have been our worst.

  • 208 darrenfletcher88 // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    Poor window so far,hopefully make a breakthrough soon.news on remy true or is it more crap??

  • 209 John Tudor // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    if you provided three with substantial reasons they would be relegated not us think about it matey shoots down your theory of me

  • 210 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    @ King

    I mean when the full back goes forward one of the DM’s drops into the full back position and then the winger and defender can overlap each other if necessary.

    It obviously won’t work when playing 4-4-2 but the majority of times last year we played 4-2-3-1 with two DM’s . 5 players in the middle of the park just causes confusion especially if both full backs go forward. That is why the two defensive midfielders in that formation should protect the flanks.

  • 211 geordie157 // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    8.6 mill for capoue he’s had a lot of hype for a few years so will be interesting to see how good he is in a side that should struggle. Surprised a bigger club hasn’t come in for him.

    Glad Hooper turned down floppy chops and QPR

  • 212 lesh // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    There’s no apparent signings of any quality.

    There’s no indication of any ambition

    Far from being a 21st century club, we’re being run ws though Newcastle United is a third world sweatshop.

    Kinnear? What’s he for?

  • 213 John Tudor // Jul 25, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    as for betting that we would go down you are the one offering odds

  • 214 Ian Toon // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    Tads – something I posted yesterday. I do so like a happy ending.

    Unless i have missed something nobody knows why Cisse is refusing to wear the Wonga shirt. It is generally being assumed that his reluctance is based on religous grounds. Well I am familiar with a number of different religions and many are very much of a pick and choose nature- Catholics eating meat on a Friday is the simplest non offensive example on a football blog with no religion to be discussed.

    But does anything change should Papiss be doing this not because his religion instructs him to but because his conscience tells him. Ones conscience, freedom of belief is surely stronger. Individual personal freedom which is more admirable to me.

    Toon fans don’t have to agree with Cisse about Wonga’s business practices, but I respect his right to act in favor of his conscience. If that is indeed what he is doing. The point many have made that his gambling in a casino undermines his integrity depends on whether he is basing it on religion or his conscience. It’s the pick and choose variety of religion.

    In any event the club need to address the matter rather than hope the problem will go away. Hopefully this will be without publicly alienating our best striker. I personally feel that matters will be resolved by August 9th at the end of Ramadan.

  • 215 geordie157 // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:02 PM

    Cardiff, palace, hull, stoke and Sunderland are still worse than us Norwich, Southampton and Swansea have spent well and I don’t think there’s much between our squads. Just think we need to show a little bit of ambition even just signing Remy and bent could make a massive difference to us.

  • 216 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:03 PM

    toonking…not meaning any disrespect cause we all see things differently, but have you played football yourself at any fair level?

    …just read your answer to BPC about DM covering for FBs. That is actually what you do when you play 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1 cause you want to have as many players in and around the opossisions defense at all time.

    The DM does not add much going forward hence the reason why the safeguard the defense. It makes it easier to switch quickly between the offense and the defense.

    It is modern football mate ;-)

  • 217 jazzyp // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    NPutting JFK in charge of negotiations would make about as much sense as putting Pete Doherty in charge of the drugs cabinet, or giving Granddad the remote for the SkyBox, or putting Sports Direct on the roof of a football stadium, or Wonga on your shirt.

  • 218 John Tudor // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:05 PM

    well geordie those are the teams but i would need a tad more on reasons why they are worse

  • 219 james589 // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:05 PM

    Don’t forget guys, settling the Cissé dispute is like a new signing…

    Seriously WTF are we playing at? If Llambias was still here we’d understand and expect this slow movement, but Kimnear was brought in to do one specific job after Llambias’ previous failings and he is failing to deliver big time. Unless we have 2 signings wrapped up by the beginning of next week (3 weeks before the start of the new season), he needs to go because he is not delivering on his key objectives and surely in football more than in any other business that spells the writing on the wall.

    If we don’t act soon, it’ll be another summer like last where we brought one senior player in (if we’re lucky), still hopelessly vulnerable to injuries due to our lack of strength in depth, 2 strikers short of an average first team squad, and we are doomed to have another season like last year.

    Norwich has snapped up Wolfswinkel and it looks like Hooper this window, two great strikers, proven goalscorers and will have paid less than £14m for the pair. They’re hardly known for their vast financial resources so the question needs to be asked why aren’t we showing as much savvy in our signings? It’s embarrassing that we’re falling behind the likes of Norwich are showing more determination than us, we wouldn’t even class them as at our level until this season just gone but looks like they might be set to move past us. And look who their manager is…

  • 220 toonking // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:07 PM

    BPC
    the point I am making about FB and wingers or wide men in formations like 4-2-3-1 is they should be working together you are right that the CDM can cover.
    but if the CDM is going to mark the widemen while our FB is forward we can’t afford to have players like HBA running into the centre and loosing the ball but not trying to get it back

    the midfield last year was an absolute shambles

  • 221 Alaricha // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:07 PM

    Ed, I have been involved in professional sport all my life and a fervent if not armchair supporter of NUFC. I am utterly dismayed at the appointment of JFK as Director of Football, he is a talker, a legend in his own mind and economical with the truth. Empty vessels make the most sound they say and he is definitely EMPTY full of his own self importance. What has he achieved in 7 weeks? Zero! We do need to strengthen the squad but is he helping AP or trying to undermine him and take over, God help us if that happens. It is a sad sad state of affairs at SJP.

  • 222 Ian Toon // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:07 PM

    Mr Tuff – I am pleased their is someone else who recognises the talent that is Davide Santon.

    I am not free to discuss further right now but the failure of others to cover his forward runs is the issue for me. He should have a good season i saw him recently in Eldon Square with his wife/ partner and daughter. Mourinho mentioned Santon to refute the claim that he is not interested in developing the talents of young players. But for serious knee injuries we would not have got a look in signing him.
    I will catch you after your holiday- enjoy France.

  • 223 geordie racer // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    Y’all know me. Know how I earn a livin’. I’ll catch this bird for you, but it ain’t gonna be easy. Bad fish. Not like going down the pond chasin’ bluegills and tommycods. This shark, swallow you whole. Little shakin’, little tenderizin’, an’ down you go. And we gotta do it quick, that’ll bring back your tourists, put all your businesses on a payin’ basis. But it’s not gonna be pleasant. I value my neck a lot more than three thousand bucks, chief. I’ll find him for three, but I’ll catch him, and kill him, for ten. But you’ve gotta make up your minds. If you want to stay alive, then ante up. If you want to play it cheap, be on welfare the whole winter. I don’t want no volunteers, I don’t want no mates, there’s just too many captains on this island. $10,000 for me by myself. For that you get the head, the tail, the whole damn thing.

  • 224 John Tudor // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:09 PM

    Jaws

  • 225 jazzyp // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:10 PM

    Going through the posts I have noticed comments on Remy signing tomorrow-Is there any truth in this or just more hearsay !!

  • 226 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:12 PM

    JfA

    AGAIN

    No. 3 of those finishes were under Ashley; his first, the season we got relegated and last season. The other 3 were Shepherd’s last, the season SBR got sacked and the season Dogleash sold Ginola and Ferdinand.

  • 227 geordie157 // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:13 PM

    Palace, weak at the back and can’t see where the goals will come from. Similar with hull but they do have a bit more prem experience in their squad. Stoke aside from shawcross and begovic lack real quality, their striking options don’t exactly put fear into the opposition but they will be well organised and hard to break down.

  • 228 JFK junior // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    Does anybody actually know much about capoue other than YouTube?!

    All I know is we got the better one in sissoko! And for a fraction of the price!

  • 229 geordie157 // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    Cardiff closing on derbys brayford for two mill, best right back in the championship. Looks like they pushing on with their transfers. But the two centre backs will struggle and they’ll concede a lot of goals.

  • 230 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    There are NUFC fans all over the world, that is true but the numbers are small relatively. I bet some of our fans abroad have deserted us for Chelski and Citeh sadly. Shocking how many Chelski ans there are!

    Pretty much every Newcastle fan is a Geordie, come on…

  • 231 Ian Toon // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    Jesper – Did you see my post on 4-3-3

  • 232 John Tudor // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    really i was looking for the reasons to put my mind at ease over the lack of movement to date
    a perfectly legitimate footballing debate

  • 233 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:20 PM

    Hi Ian…I think I missed that one mate ;-)

    …I’ll go back and have alook. Is it on this thread?

  • 234 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    When I’m talking about fans, I’m talking about those who actually properly support the club in terms of attending matches or buying merchandise.

    I wonder how many strips we sell outside of the UK or even the north east…

  • 235 Jail for Ashley // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    TDsarf,
    My apologies that 2006/7 season was bad and apologize for calling you an idiot but still my point stands that his short six years have been a disaster.

  • 236 toon kk // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:23 PM

    One big let down in our current squad is its terrible lack of pace, so imo it encourages hoofball which needs sorting. Trouble is its Pardews method.

  • 237 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:23 PM

    TDS

    So because I cannot attend matches I am not a fan who “properly” supports the club?

    Well aren’t you a delight.

  • 238 JAMSHA // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:25 PM

    19.26 – Reports in France say Lyon striker
    Bafetimbi Gomis will play in England next
    season. Lyon are said to have received three
    bids for the forward, with Tottenham Hotspur
    and Newcastle United among those to have
    made offers.

    so we may nt get him if spurs are in for him

  • 239 croftus5678 // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:26 PM

    cardiff /palace/hull def weaker than us in allmost all area’s stoke and sunderland i’m not too sure tbh as they have fighting spirit and something extra to prove which may give them the boost they need !

    i do think the league is harder this year but dont think we will be in relegation fight ! more like mid table.
    fingers crossed if we get remy/gomis it will transform our team onto another lvl though (i prey for a left winger also)

    and from my post before i know we was not truely after bony/ideye i was just getting at the expected quality of striker we was expected to get to what we would actually accept if we didnt get remy/gomis.

  • 240 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:26 PM

    Ruddy

    Nah. If you can’t tell, I rarely get to attend matches either. Do you own a Toon top? I bet you do..,ever attended matches? I bet you have.

    The topic was about revenue from a global fan base. That’s seriously down as we haven’t had the glamorous Euripean matches in recent years.

  • 241 John Tudor // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:27 PM

    i still stand by my call no one in, till big movers are sold on
    there’s a lot going on and i for one don’t like it

  • 242 Newcastle for alltid // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    Thinking that some bad fortunes is enough to convert us foreign Newcastle-fans into City or Chelsea-supporters is just utterly ridiculous.

  • 243 toon22 // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    We wont sign people till the end of the window for 2 reasons.

    1 the seller becomes desperate (bent)
    2 we have the cash to buy as we sold someone who we have dragged our feet over (its the way we do things now)

    This closed seasons the same as the last.
    MA isnt interested in us as a club,never has been.

  • 244 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    Well we can hardly call someone from Africa, or Asia, or America not a proper fan?

    That would be very arrogant would it not? Support is not quantified in pounds and pennies, nor is the success of a football club.

    Take your accountants hat off for one second and think about the football. It comes from living and breathing NUFC in whatever way you choose, even if it is not financial.

  • 245 John Tudor // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:30 PM

    yes croftus we need reinforcements desperately in many areas, but the chances are slim its not doom and gloom, its fact. we have less players now and its getting close to the start of formulating tactics thinking of starting 11s

  • 246 John Tudor // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    thank you and goodnite

  • 247 toonking // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    toonKK
    how does this sould to you then
    Manchester united will become a very boring team to watch.

  • 248 croftus5678 // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    if things go pear shaped this transfer window i will personally have my finger pointed at joe and ashley for the fact that joe’s supposed to be the man in charge of transfers now and had blatant dis-reguard to clear off on hols and ashley for actually letting him >.<

    but…it will make no difference what so ever lol i have no power at all as far as the club goes.

  • 249 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    JfA

    They haven’t been great…

    But had we won that last game, we would have stayed up and it could have been very different.

    The squad and the structure was a mess when MA took over. Rather than new ownership providing a steady hand on the tiller, he just steered us into murkier waters with some poor appointments (KK, DW, JFK, Shearer)

    Other than the recent JFK decision, I think every decision since we were relegated has made sense to me. I’m not saying right because it was a mistake to only sign Anita last summer, but I understand why they did it at least.

  • 250 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    TDS…since I am one of those fans outside of Newcastle and the UK for that matter one could also ask himself what does Newcastle the football club do for its fans abroad?

    What does it do to get new fans abroad and those of you who are broad up in Newcastle have no other choice than to support Newcastle; either because of tradition of because Newcastle is a one team city.

    Us abroad have chosen to support Newcastle of all teams mate!

  • 251 Ian Toon // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:34 PM

    Jesper

    I recently concluded a post by saying that it is players and not systems or formations that win football matches. But hey even the best teams like a tactical approach to the game.

    Its frequently argued by toon fans on here that we were at our best in the season before last when playing 4-3-3.

    Like all the formations that Pardew uses this formation has 4 defenders in a backline. In front of the backline there are 3 central midfielders which provides an advantage over the 2 central midfielders that occupy the same position in 4-4-2. Those that saw the
    Newcastle v Man U game last season at SJP will recall how the toon playing 4-4-2 were caught out by SAF deploying 3 in midfield – albeit 2 early goals came from crosses into box. The game was lost before Pardew reinforced the midfield.

    Returning to the 3 central midfielders, they each have a different function; with the deepest midfielder typically being a holding midfielder, whose main role/ responsibility is to shield the back four and to win the ball thereby breaking up the opponent’s attack . In Pardew’s thinking I suspect Tiote is envisaged in this role. It does require discipline. Another of the midfielders – (Sissoko ) is a rampaging box to box midfielder, who is needed to attack as well as defend , needs to be a good athlete. This midfielder needs to be both physical as well as a good reader of the game. Knowing when he is required to break up an opponent’s attack and when to venture forward to counter attack. Timing of runs are essential in order not to isolate the transmission from defence to attack.

    The third midfielder ( Cabaye) is the most constructive, influentially attacking of the three. This midfielder does assist the defence/ back four, but his main task is to assist the three forward attackers. He has a wide passing range , able to change the focus of play by astutely moving the ball around the field to probe for openings to attack.
    This midfielder or Sissoko should also be capable to make late runs into the box, linking up with the central striker ( Cisse) to create scoring opportunities. This also takes the attention of the opposition away from the primary attacker as they have something else to worry about.

    Up front, are 3 forwards playing in front of the midfield 3 with the intent of attacking the oppositions back defensive line.
    There are several configurations that the front 3 attack can employ. The most basic is to play with a central striker, supported on either side by wide men/wingers . This allows the team to attack quickly, with the wingers playing higher up the pitch than they would in a 4-4-2. Further, with 2 wingers the attack provides plenty of width to stretch the opposition back line . The downside however is that this
    formation leaves the central striker potentially being marked by the opposition 2 center-backs . It is essential therefore that the forward 3 present a mobile fluid presence and are aided by a positive midfield looking to assist.

  • 252 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    Ian

    You’re boring at the best of times, but even more so when you go over 1000 words.

  • 253 geordie racer // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    Jamsha – I’ve heard the 3 interested parties for Gomis our ourselves, Rubin Kazan and Fennebache. No mention of Spurs, apparently just paper talk.

  • 254 jimmysmith // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    So Ashley and Wonga win their murky dispute with Cisse, and we continue to drag our feet on transfers, lubly, jubly, Charlie !!!!

  • 255 JAMSHA // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    Get French Football
    @ GFN_France
    12m
    Confirmed: Etienne Capoue has refused
    to partake in contract discussions with
    Cardiff. No interest.

    wish we could,get him… M.A OUT

  • 256 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    Ruddy

    Ok. I should rephrase. I’d bet that 90% of merchandising and match day revenue comes from Geordies.

    And sadly, I don’t think our global fan base will be growing much at the moment…except for maybe in France… :-)

  • 257 toonking // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    although I can’t find the stat anywhere I dout super mac would ever lie about this.
    what he said was that everton were the 3rd worst for long balls and hoofball is just slang for long ball.
    I know for sure it is true that he said it because I listen to the show myself
    http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?p=15565543

  • 258 JAMSHA // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    geordie racer

    it was on skysports transfer window section

  • 259 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:39 PM

    TDS

    Don’t you think it says a lot about your ideas of what constitutes a “fan” when you equate it to merchandising and match day revenue?

  • 260 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:39 PM

    Jesper

    I should point out that I made the same choice mate. So tell me, what made you choose Newcastle? Sadly, I don’t think the club has den anything to attract more fans globally since SBR’s day.

  • 261 JAMSHA // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    Get French Football
    @ GFN_France
    27m
    Kevin Gameiro: ‘I came here to Sevilla
    to help score goals. I have a good
    feeling already. Lovely town and I hope
    my family settles.

    Lets c if remy takes a pay cut

  • 262 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    Ruddy

    No. Not when you take the comment in the context it was made.

  • 263 terencelim // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:44 PM

    @TDS You really need to open your eyes and see the real world. There are A LOT of toon fans all over the world and I’ve seen lots of them, a lots, know and support the club throughout their life. They can’t attend the matches because of geographical reason and some of them are from poor countries but because of this it makes them even more special as a fan to support the club.

    Global brand recognition is undoubted important for any successful football club that’s why you see those clubs are having pre-season in Asia since ages ago.

    Your wild guess and assumption are ridiculous and blindly supporting Ashley doesn’t mean you should twist things around.

  • 264 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    Well given the content of your other comments about Mike Ashley, it would appear that you do rate financial growth and sustainability very highly, so with that in mind, along with your comments about “90% of fans…” etc I don’t think it is incorrect to think that you view being a fan in financial terms

  • 265 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    Interesting topic about are worldwide fanbase.

    One has to think they must be dwindling by the constant laughing stock we have become.

    Why support Newcastle United when it shows zero ambition, poor consideration and constantly makes poor decisions on the footballing side of the club?

    Basically, why care and support a club who seemingly shows no care or consideration for it’s fan base and passes them nothing but embarrassment with any given opportunity?

    I used to be so proud to wear my top abroad, im not sure about anyone else but that pride is nothing like it used to be for me now.

    Just take Man City’s owners for instance or Chelsea’s, what did they know about football? Take away the fact they have bought trophys for the clubs for a second and you will see how a professionally run club operates.

    They hire the right staff for the job in hand, if they fail, they are moved on. It’s a club run properly on every level.

    They are a perfect example, regardless if they have bought success or not. Im damn sure if they hadn’t of ploughed that much money into the clubs they would still be doing a hell of a lot better than us.

    They operate the clubs with respect, consideration and empathy. Even Man City are out to advertise their real passions but they still respect and operate the club to succeed. They are professional people and hire the right people for the jobs at all levels.

    Mike Ashley does not give a toss about NUFC.

    The last 5-6 years tell that story a good 10-20 times over.

    His lack of consideration is startling on every level concerned with the club.

  • 266 croftus5678 // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    @254 tdsarf

    those margins are some way off imo 90% in the uk them maybe.
    i agree on fans abroad though as many fans will support for a team high up the table or there fave international player who’s playing for us ect ect is how it all starts and with whats happening atm not many “new supporters” will be outside of newcastle area or france atm while this lot is ongoing.

    apart from french lads we have krull who will get us fans and cisse imo from outside of france and nufc oh and santon (esp if he gets full caps) but i am disapointed we dont even have a full england international for our own country “yet” COMON BIGI

  • 267 HullMag6 // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    Gomis has effectively said where he wants to go – Joe call the meeting and get it done man.

  • 268 geordie racer // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:47 PM

    Personally, I put a lot of faith in motivational speeches.
    Pardew is pretty much as dull as dishwater, but I’ve got some pretty decent ideas if he wants to consult me…

    For this one he needs to be wearing a pair of knee length waders…

    Japanese submarine slammed two torpedoes into our side, lads. We was comin’ back from the island of Tinian to Leyte… just delivered the bomb. The Hiroshima bomb. Eleven hundred men went into the water. Vessel went down in 12 minutes. Didn’t see the first shark for about a half an hour. Tiger. 13-footer. You know how you know that when you’re in the water, lads? You tell by looking from the dorsal to the tail fin. What we didn’t know, was our bomb mission had been so secret, no distress signal had been sent. They didn’t even list us overdue for a week. Very first light, lads, sharks come cruisin’, so we formed ourselves into tight groups. You know, it was kinda like old squares in the battle like you see in the calendar named “The Battle of Waterloo” and the idea was: shark comes to the nearest man, that man he starts poundin’ and hollerin’ and screamin’ and sometimes the shark will go away… but sometimes he wouldn’t go away. Sometimes that shark he looks right into ya. Right into your eyes. And, you know, the thing about a shark… he’s got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at ya, doesn’t seem to be living… until he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then… ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin’. The ocean turns red, and despite all the poundin’ and the hollerin’, they all come in and they… rip you to pieces. You know by the end of that first dawn, lost a hundred men. I don’t know how many sharks, maybe a thousand. I know how many men, they averaged six an hour. On Thursday morning, lads, I bumped into a friend of mine, Herbie Robinson from Cleveland. Baseball player. Boatswain’s mate. I thought he was asleep. I reached over to wake him up. He bobbed up, down in the water just like a kinda top. Upended. Well, he’d been bitten in half below the waist. Noon, the fifth day, Mr. Tiote, a Lockheed Ventura saw us. He swung in low and he saw us… he was a young pilot, a lot younger than Mr. Tiote. Anyway, he saw us and he come in low and three hours later a big fat PBY comes down and starts to pick us up. You know that was the time I was most frightened… waitin’ for my turn. I’ll never put on a lifejacket again. So, eleven hundred men went in the water; 316 men come out and the sharks took the rest, June the 29th, 1945. Anyway, we delivered the bomb. NOW GO OUT THERE AND KNOCK EM DEAD!”

  • 269 jimmysmith // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:48 PM

    We have fans from within the UK and without ties to the region who support the Toon. They must surely be of a naturally melancholic disposition then, like the French for example.

  • 270 Bearsize // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:49 PM

    Santon and ba were our best players up until xmas. Would love santon to play LWF with HBA RWF can keep swapping also. if santon can get into good areas without having to run 70 yards he could be lethal. Cracking shot on him too and good in the air. We need a manager with a brain cell though. Nice for morinho to turn his head like that. Planting seeds jose?

  • 271 Jail for Ashley // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    TDsarf,
    There comes a ponit where you can’t actually debate anymore, although you think it was wrong to not strengthen in the summer but understand why they didn’t please tell why that is when we were able to have a net spend of 11M in January.

  • 272 toonking // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    TDS and ruddy
    here is a good way to think of Newcastle in terms of big.
    ruddy is right newcastle are a big club in terms of fan base but where TDS is right is that 90% of the fans in newcastle or maybe a 60% of them are from the north east.
    why? the answer is because the north east of England has got very few big teams overall infact we have only got 4 teams in the 4 leagues. compare that to the west where you only need Manchester and their are two teams from 1 city.

    fans these days don’t make a big team anymore the thing that makes a big team now is money.

  • 273 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    Ruddy

    We need financial growth and stability, but I’d rather talk about the football to be honest. However, I end up talking about these things because of ludicrous demands on MA and comments about him being tight (with NUFC’s money).

    For the record, I expect us to spend £10-15M net this summer on at least 1 striker and I will not be happy if that doesn’t happen.

  • 274 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    Has Santon ever consistently shown that his crossing ability is good enough to be played on the wing?

  • 275 PennStateToon // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    Ruddy,
    As a fan from across the pond, I have to say TDS has a point. I’ve traveled extensively over here and have bumped into maybe one or two toon fans ever? While man u, chelsea, arsenal, etc are ever present (bandwagoners) over here, you never ever see the smaller clubs supported. Hell when i wear a kit out most people mistake it for a NFL referee shirt or they think it is juventus. Not saying there aren’t any of us over here but it is few and far between.

  • 276 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    TDS

    When we talk about the football, I’ll still be critical.

    So if he spends less than 15m will you be happy? Look at the money other clubs are spending, we don’t want silly money spent, merely to keep up with the chasing pack, which in my view has surpassed us in some sense.

  • 277 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    TDS…I played football myself and was always more interested in an underdog and exciting football than the sure thing!

    I followed Shearer from SOTON to Blackburn and was actually a Rovers fan, but was very impressed by a wee club from North playing the best football I had seen in England ever.

    So when Shearer moved back home I followed and have been a NUFC fan ever since.

    Ian…I don’t think systems or formations win you games or titles alone, but neither do players.

    It is a question about the right match. The system you choose and the manager you have has to be a match.

    And you either need to have the right players for that system or buy them.

    Everything about this seems to be news to the current top at Newcastle and that means both Pardew, Ashley and Carr.

  • 278 Toon73 // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    I’m from Sydney and support the toon. Don’t forget the guy who wore his nufc kit to the friendly in Melbourne the other night.

    So there’s 2

  • 279 croftus5678 // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    @272 ruddy

    thats something i was just thinking myself tbh as he’s not that great at crossing imo personally i think he’s way to right footed to be on the left and should be rb.

  • 280 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    JfA

    Simply that they didn’t manage to negotiate any really good deals in summer and overestimated the quality of certain youngsters. I’m all for giving youngsters a chance but Tav, Fergie, Sammy and Campbell were not good enough.

  • 281 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    PennState

    I’m not talking about the sheer numbers of NUFC fans, my point is that regardless of where in the world a NUFC fan resides, he/she is as much of a NUFC fan as a Geordie.

    Great to hear of NUFC fans state side. You, DokToon and a few others are flying the flag in the US, keep it up.

  • 282 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    Croftus

    For me, Santon is one of the most frustrating, puzzling, yet potentially exciting players in our squad. I really would want to see a lot of improvement in his defending next season though.

  • 283 jimmysmith // Jul 25, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    Yeah, that would be good, Santon is a creative attacking player and has shortcomings at fullback. Jonas did create little playing in that role last season, so you’d think that between them HBA and Santon might set up a few more for Cisse, but really it hardly would solve our main problem of having only one player who can score with anything like any consistency. We are woefully short of goal threat apart from Cisse. Worst Toon side I’ve ever seen by a mile in this regard.

  • 284 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    Ruddy

    If we don’t have it then we don’t have it!

    I’d rather we get those 2 attacking players in and maybe some youngsters and assess the squad come January. I don’t want us to spend loads this summer only to find out Santon demands to leave in Jan and Haidara has an ACL injury.

    IMO those squads needs to try and catch us up, we have a good enough squad that we just need to make tweaks, albeit top quality tweaks.

  • 285 Bearsize // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    Like i said its different crossing a ball when you have ran 70 yards to maybe 30 yards. Plus if you can get him cutting inside on edge of the box rather than the half way line he could surprise us. Its definitely worth a pop as its a problem position for us.

  • 286 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:03 PM

    TDS

    We have it! My god man we have it!

    We’re not having this discussion again. Yes our wages represent 67% of revenue, but this will decrease with the extra TV income, the money is there to spend.

  • 287 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:03 PM

    Jesper

    That’s a good reason. I reckon if we’d have capitalised on 5th, then more people would have a story like that. We’ll only get international fans in countries where we have players from those countries I think. And even then, not any until we’re doing better.

  • 288 croftus5678 // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:04 PM

    guti in that free cm role in the last friendly was great in fairness would not even mind him in tiote’s place even though i thought tiote played well also.

    @ruddy ye agree on santon there ! watched him when he had no option but to use his left and he did cross good with it ! he just refuses to use it until its the very last resort.

    marv is another like that ! has everything to set the world alight but really doesnt care if he doesnt have the ball (think thats down to man management tbh)

  • 289 jimmysmith // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:04 PM

    When was the last time Joe even bought a player and has he ever paid over a million quid for one. He’s got about as much chance in a game of brinkmanship as Dr Evil, as far as I can tell.

  • 290 daztoon // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    Be interesting to see figures on Toon supporters abroad pre Keegan 90′s and after.I know from working abroad many Toon fans I bumped into we’re all brought on board with the brand of football Keegan had us playing

  • 291 nufc786 // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:07 PM

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-transfer-news-newcastle-look-2090395?

    Newcastle set to complete £2.25m deal for Dutch ‘keeper Jeroen Zoet

  • 292 Novocastrian66 // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:08 PM

    Geordie racer: err how is that an inspirational team talk? It’s a well documented and moving account of the sinking of USS Idianapolis and the battle the survivors had to live, spending upwards of 110 hours in the water. Not sure how it will motivate young men to play football.
    Might make them realise how lucky they are, but I suspect many of them already know this.

  • 293 croftus5678 // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    @289 nufc

    yeah just read that ! on the basis of the friendly’s i’ve watched so far i think it would be a good move.

    the same as getting a cb in and shipping saylor and williamson out would be a good move ^^

  • 294 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    Croftus

    The sooner we rid ourselves of the delusion that Saylor is a good CB, the healthier we will be in the CB department.

  • 295 stuart no9 // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    shola told hes not leaving , cisse decides hes not a devout muslim – there is our strike force next season chaps , forget signings , as far as nufc are concerned , shola scored , why waste money on a decent striker – what a load of pathetic tossers .

  • 296 jimmysmith // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    Can Benny play on the left and why does Santon play there when he struggles both defensively and in attack on his left peg. Why not play him on the right? Or is it just we needed a left back and he was our best bet at the time.

  • 297 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:17 PM

    TDS…for me and many others it is not about Trophies or titles, but love of the game and entertainment value.

    I want to be entertained and I want Newcastle to rise to what it can be and should be and I want Newcastle to be more visable and to play more games in Europe.

    Of course I would love to be able to watch Newcastle to play in Denmark since that would make them more accessble to me and I want Newcastle to be run sustainable cause anything else would just be insane.

    You know most of us get to see only CL unless we have we have foreign tv so if Newcastle wants more fans then they know what to do ;-)

  • 298 woolerbill // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:21 PM

    STUART9

    You are so right, we tell the world we are after good players in the hope they are shaped up. Then they can say we tried but were out bit. We will try again in January. Our club is in the hands of trash with money, that will not be spent on our club.

  • 299 Uncertain Toon // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    How long does Mashley leave it before he gets personally involved in transfers again like January? I’m not a fan of him by any stretch, but it cannot be argued he delivered when he got involved. Before any retorts about him flapping about relegation and safeguarding tv revenue, i know which league i’d rather be in.
    It must piss Graham Carr off when he builds a file over years on a potential and the deal gets scuppered cos we won’t go the extra yard money wise. They seem do operate in the transfer market like the team play football of late or is that the other way round!

  • 300 daztoon // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    @jesper
    So did you just support the Toon once Shearer signed or was there any interest before, with the brand of football being played with the likes of Ginola,Beardsley etc and them playing in Europe.Or was it mainly yer Liverpools etc being shown over there

  • 301 kt97toonarmy // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    Evening all

    Looks that we are geting our first signing at last. And u will b suprised who it is

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-transfer-news-newcastle-look-2090395

  • 302 jimmysmith // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    That’s it, Carr identifies them, while Pards and Kinnear settle on who they actually want. Kinnear gets the deal on the table and Ashley comes in and closes it, at least that’s how it probably should be.

  • 303 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:34 PM

    daztoon…Newcastle wasn’t very visable here in Denmark; you had to play football yourself to really know who they were.

    Back in the ’90s it was all about Man Utd and Liverpool over here unless you had an opinion of yourself ;-)

    I was a Rovers fan as I explained earlier, but the brand of football Newcastle were playing caught my eyes and I was very impressed.

    Shearer was the turning point for me. I was a huge Shearer fan from his early days at SOTON. To tell you the truth Newcastle was everyone’s second fav team from ’95 to 04. Even for United and Pool fans.

    It seems today that’s not important to those who run the club.

  • 304 daztoon // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    @jesper
    Cheers for that mate interesting.What were your feelings on Tomasson at the Toon.I felt the lad got unlucky with the timing of Shearer’s injury and the pressure was to much for him to be the main striker being so young and new to the team

  • 305 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    daztoon…on Tomasson that is exactly my view as well!

    …he was the right buy at the wrong time :-(

  • 306 stuart no9 // Jul 25, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    jesper — i have said for years , there are a load of posters on here who dont really care about NUFC judging by their comments that they dont get angry about how our club is being run.
    I have also said that some people are happy just to go and watch a game of football on a saturday or sunday win lose or draw , who cares as long as they have a good day out . Your comments @297 have proved me right . Most bloggers on here are passionate about our club , some are just selfish and all ” me me me : first you say “TDS…for me and many others it is not about Trophies or titles, but love of the game and entertainment value.—wrong! its all about winning titles and trophys, why play the game otherwise.? then you say —–I want to be entertained and I want Newcastle to rise to what it can be and should be and I want Newcastle to be more visable and to play more games in Europe.–notice ” i want to be entertained – that is the most important issue with you , not thriving to win anything. then you say—–Of course I would love to be able to watch Newcastle to play in Denmark since that would make them more accessble to me and I want Newcastle to be run sustainable cause anything else would just be insane. — note the words ” more accessible to “ME”– without realising it , you have portrayed yourself as a very selfish person – one NUFC can clearly do without . you support the wrong team , you should be a chelsea or a man u fan , what you doing here?

  • 307 manni // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    GFN aulus confirmed reports that lyon and newcastle are negotiating fee for gomis…key meeting to take place to speed up things up for gomis..and that he has no idea if gomis is actually interested in signing for newcastle

    Fcuk sake get him signed up already

  • 308 remy D // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    Mugs still think remy is coming hahaha this is keeping me entertained no end.al check in tomorrow see what else you fall for

  • 309 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    Stuart…you just find what works for you but please refrain from using the word WRONG when there is something you don’t understand or agree with.

    …beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Football for me has absolutely nothing to do with winning trophies is is about the beauty of the game and would not change side for a trophy! Would you?

    I may have said alot of things mate, but I think you will find I am not the only one disagreeing with you!

  • 310 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:07 AM

    *should have read you in that last part!

  • 311 Mister Tuff // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    duuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh ugg, ugg, duuuuuuuhhhhhh
    ugg, ugg.
    neanderthal/jackass alert.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gROO7xSTxfY

  • 312 croftus5678 // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:18 AM

    @306 stuart

    not everyone thinks alike and many have different opinions and the fact is there is no true right or wrong its all guess work and if it works it works there is nothing concrete or every club would be doing it !
    you see things as passionate with your negative comments and some others see it as de-moralising to other fans and players at our club when others are trying to see the bright side of things through our dark times !
    we won nothing in kk’s 1st reign yet 95% of fans was happy inc myself and the reason for that was that liverpool/manu ect ect could brag to there mates about trophy’s ect but i got a different angle to boast about and thats that win or lose i hardly ever paid to see a boring match.
    its a question of pride and loyalty with me and nothing to do with winning or losing as even in vauxhall conference i would still support them and not abandon them (as the saying goes i’ve made my bed now i’ll lay in it)
    most on here have a p*&s and moan to get it out of our system but we realise we can not change what goes on without making things worse for the team we love. but by all means if you think you can change what ashley is doing by posting on this blog then fair play to you.

  • 313 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:19 AM

    jesper foreigners like yourself might want fancy football but you don’t have a decent league so you just want to watch decent football.

    i live in the north east of England and have been a supporter all my life i might be still in my 20s but i followed on from my dad and have seen pictures of how newcastle were back in the 1900s

    i don’t care how we play what i want is for newcastle to win a trophy.
    we locals are loyal to our clubs we don’t care about the chance to see the best players or getting lots of money all we want is a trophy and that is where the FA cup is our chance.

    global coverage and the amount of money being poured into football is causing it to get worse every year.
    if it keeps going i can see their soon being a European league designed like the premier league and that is where the entertainment will be as for teams like newcastle well we will be stuck in a boring premier league that will be like the champions ship is .

  • 314 stuart no9 // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:22 AM

    jesper — i dont care who agrees or disagrees with me – what i do care about is the passion that goes with supporting NUFC. Try telling those 11 players in a black and white shirt when they walk on the pitch that its not about ” winning trophys or titles as long as they entertain you ,that is all your worried about, forget if, you want a set of fans with no passion , go to stamford bridge

  • 315 Bring Back Laurent Robert // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    Stuartno9

    You’ve got to be the most sulky, depressing poster on here. Congratulations, quite a feat.

  • 316 Uncertain Toon // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    If Pardew whinges on about not having the distraction of the europa league again i’ll bust a blood vessel! What a defeatist Tw*t he is. If he doesn’t want to manage a team in europe he needs to retire from football altogether! And playing up the performance the other night is unforgiveable. “That was a terrific performance to get a draw against a Champions League side who, let’s not forget, finished just behind Benfica last season.”
    Mmmm, They’ve never played in champions league ever and they have to qualify! And they were 23 points behind Benfica!
    Does he really think we are that daft!

  • 317 croftus5678 // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    @tk & stuart

    in other words you would have been happy with pards defend defend defend and long ball game as long as we won ?

    personally i would prefere a beardsley/gazza/ginola/robert/shearer/albert/asprilla than a kitson/carrick/molby

  • 318 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:34 AM

    tk & stuart…I honestly don’t have any more to add to this subject!

    …you just find what works for you guys!

  • 319 Uncertain Toon // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:34 AM

    Croftus,

    I’d take Molby mate, just to see if he had a geordie accent after a week! He sounded like a proper scouser when he was at Liverpool!

  • 320 croftus5678 // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    @319 unertain

    hehe ye thats a good theory i wouldnt mind seeing that myself.

  • 321 stuart no9 // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    croftus@312 —- you say- i see things passionate with my negative comments ! ok then , nows the time to convince me i.m wrong – tell me all the positive things coming out of the club at the moment.!!

  • 322 daztoon // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    Stuart the books are getting balanced what more do you want.
    I saw all the passion drain out of St James after the 0-6 thrashing by Liverfool.

  • 323 croftus5678 // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    @321 stuart

    i dont prove anyone they are right or wrong like i said before there is no right or wrong only opinions and not everyone thinks the same things but it doesnt make them any less of a fan ! the only ones i cant tolerate on a personal lvl is those that want our team to do badly.

    and if you want to mull over a few positive comments that have been posted on here there was:
    jan transfers getting better.
    pards notplaying long balls in friendlies
    players played in proper position
    goofy doing well as a striker
    cisse now happy to play for us
    cabaye commited to us
    bigi in u21 squad
    jk keeping his mouth shut
    tiote getting back into some sort of form
    vukic fit and looking good
    cambell looking like he could do something
    free-loaders in squad being offloaded.

  • 324 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    @coftus uncertaintoon and all these other entertainment demanders
    forget blog troll what i would call you is a blog homosapians

    this is 2013 not 1996
    players don’t care about fans or the club all they want is money so what does that mean owners want lots of money so theirfore a club like newcastle is just another wee team.

    it’s no wonder the FA cup has dropped it’s moral.

  • 325 Toon73 // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:49 AM

    There probably is a NUFC fans group here in Sydney but I don’t know about it. Would be great to watch a game with a bunch of toon frothers :) I’ve never been to the UK but planning on doing so and catching a game or two at sjp..

  • 326 croftus5678 // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:50 AM

    @324 tk
    i agree players and owners want money ! i dont get why that makes me wanting to spend my money on watching my team play good football makes me any worse than you paying money to watch your team playing badly but winning ! ofc i want them to win but i aint gonna pay for them to sit back for 85mins every game then win 1-0 from a corner every game.

  • 327 stuart no9 // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    croftus @ 317 in other words you would have been happy with pards defend defend defend and long ball game as long as we won ?——– what on earth are are you muttering on about ? who said that , and when did they say it???

  • 328 Uncertain Toon // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    toonking,

    I see you’ve labelled me as an entertainment demander, a blog troll and blog homosapian all in sentence! Nice.
    An explanation for that would be greatly appreciated, but before you do, read all my posts(ever) on this blog before you do!

  • 329 daztoon // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:56 AM

    @Toon73
    Pretty sure there is mate I worked a bit in kiwi land and there was a supporters group in Auckland.There was an Aussie from Cowra I think who was a member of the Sydney group.

  • 330 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 1:02 AM

    well get lost go and watch Barcelona or real Madrid because them European teams are just cowards the premier league is a fast physical league we play football as it should be played not like the foreign leagues where you fall over after every touch. Manchester united are the best English team for one reason they have always built their team around the defence did you notice how many times they were getting late goals that won them the game.
    kevin keegan and his stupid attacking style was the very reason we lost the chance of winning the title

  • 331 croftus5678 // Jul 26, 2013 at 1:03 AM

    @327 stuart re-@306

    the way it reads is that certain people only want to be entertained and do not care if win or lose but you only care if we win and not the entertainment side of things !
    i opologise if i read it wrong and if i did then the reverse is also said for those who want entertainment first as nothing was said about not wanting the team to lose as obviously entertainment and winning goes together.

  • 332 stuart no9 // Jul 26, 2013 at 1:04 AM

    daz @ 322 maybe the real fans have stopped going now in protest at the way our beloved club is being torn apart , perhaps we are seeing more and more people from outside the area turn up for games , that could be another reason why the passion and atmosphere is gone , Ash must think hes died and gone to heaven – delivering rubbish and no one moans – as long as they see a game of football , a pie at half time and a pint before they go home – win lose or draw , a good day out.

  • 333 stuart no9 // Jul 26, 2013 at 1:13 AM

    croftus —— and they are your list of positives?? players committed to us – players looking good – pards not playing hoofball ???? looks like were going to have a cracking season in that case then – teams will be soiling themselves now knowing that . Tel me , how will all those positives inprove the one thing we couldnt do last season ? score goals??

  • 334 daztoon // Jul 26, 2013 at 1:17 AM

    @stuart
    For sure mate what ever Ashley does people have a little moan then forget about it.I know when I was a kid going to stand in the gallowgate you could feel the passion but not anymore.
    We moved down to Sheffield early eighties and I got up when I could for games.remember missing the last train and having to sleep in the railway station after keegan’s testimonial. got back home for 6 and had to start work at 7 but I wouldn’t have missed it for the world

  • 335 Uncertain Toon // Jul 26, 2013 at 1:19 AM

    toonking @324

    Still trying to get a handle on what you’re accusing me of mate? You’re entitled to your opinion, however I don’t think you should of included me in ya rant!
    An apology is always accepted or are you not even man enough to issue that?

  • 336 stuart no9 // Jul 26, 2013 at 1:28 AM

    daz yeah i was there .

    croftus – i think you read it wrong. yeah first and formost is a win . however, ive been around long enough to know , no one knows which newcastle is going to turn up for games, but if we lose , at least go down with a fight , i am just as proud of that as seeing us twank man u 5-0. but with pards it is us getting twonked every week and going down with not as much as a wimper to show for it . that , is what is getting peoples back up.

  • 337 RonVanDam // Jul 26, 2013 at 1:28 AM

    Insomia wants to move away from AV. Hope JK still remembers him

  • 338 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 1:29 AM

    uncertaintoon what i don’t get with you was post316 is that a quote pardew sain before the season had even finished because right now pardew is probably in the same stress as the fans and he will hardly ever mean what he says now.
    as for managing a European team well newcastle are not a European team now anyway that stopped once robson left.
    it is what your saying about pardew that i can’t get.

  • 339 RonVanDam // Jul 26, 2013 at 1:29 AM

    rench winger Charles N’Zogbia, 27, could be set to leave Aston Villa with Hull and Crystal Palace both considering bids.

    Full story: Metro

  • 340 RonVanDam // Jul 26, 2013 at 1:30 AM

    Hughton is building a solid team at Norwich.

    Celtic striker Gary Hooper, 25, has passed a medical ahead of a £5m move to Norwich.

    Full story: Sky Sports

  • 341 RonVanDam // Jul 26, 2013 at 1:32 AM

    Salomon Kalou is available for 4m at Lille. Has scored 14 goals in 28 games. Worth a gamble?

  • 342 daztoon // Jul 26, 2013 at 1:32 AM

    toonking you really are clueless,Keegans stupid attacking style that only conceded 2 more goals than manure that season.For all the attacking the team did the defence was far better than they got credit for and far better than our current one or anyone since.

  • 343 RonVanDam // Jul 26, 2013 at 1:43 AM

    Has anyone seen Real Madrids new kit? So Chelsea

    http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2013/07/25/4143261/ozil-reveals-new-madrid-tactics?ICID=OP

  • 344 Uncertain Toon // Jul 26, 2013 at 1:45 AM

    toonking,

    Let me see if I can elaborate a bit.
    Yeah, Pardew came out with the europe comment before the seasons end and is still coming out with it now(after last friendly). I think it’s wearing a bit thin now!
    As for being under stress, that’s his job mate. He gets very well paid for what he does! He’s
    never meant what he’s said since he got here and before that at West Ham, Charlton and Southampton. Would you trust a guy who you know talks bollox to you all the time?
    As far not being a European team you sound like you’ve less ambition than the club mate!
    That is exactly the point, should Europe not be what everyone is driving for? If not we might as well rap it in right now! However I appreciate we are stuck with Pardew for the foreseeable and am prepared to give him a chance albeit till End of October! If we are languishing at bottom of table then he has to go mate, Agree?

  • 345 Uncertain Toon // Jul 26, 2013 at 1:49 AM

    RVD,

    Kudos to Hughton mate, he deserves to do something good with Norwich and get the recognition he’s earned.
    If we don’t get some players in, the new Norwich team would probably batter us mate!
    And i reckon Hughton wouldn’t take any enjoyment from it, true gent and let down badly by the powers that b at the toon.

  • 346 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 1:50 AM

    daztoon
    i didn’t say our defence was awful what i said was KK preferred aggressive play

    two seasons ago we finished 5th but if you had a brain you would notice a lot of that was down to the fact we we set up very well from the defence but last year we had FB who were going right up the field wide men running into the middle forwards offside CM that were trying to be to fancy and CD not marking their men.

  • 347 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:01 AM

    maybe you should have a look at this which i posted in the last page
    these all managers are in the very spot that our 1 manager is in right now

    1. moyse Manchester united have now lost what people would describe as one of the best managers ever. SAF said himself that fans need to give moyse time and not be over expected of him

    2.morineo. during his first spell as manager he was very good and abramovich does not give managers too long to prove they are good enough so he can’t afford a bad spell especially not at the start

    3. wenger. this manager was doing so well at arsenal during the beginning of this century but now the best we expect from them is a top 4 finish and every year they bring very few players in mostly they are from abroad and they have sold a lot of decent players.

    4. pulis. stoke fans were complaining everywhere that they were fed up of stoke and thought they were so boring even though they did manage to get into the Europa league one year and apart from that year when they were in Europae they have not really had much relegation battles. so stoke decided to sack pulis but who did they bring in hughs.

    5. laudrup. last season Swansea looked like a very decent team, the same sort of team everyone was describing Newcastle as the season before last. this season is the season which Swansea have got Europa league.

    6. pellegrini. man city decided to sack mancini but the city fans were not happy about the decision and so pellegrini now has the job of getting the fans back on his side.

    it is hard enough for a manager to have a problem similar to two clubs but for it to be like 6 well 5 as this year we not in Europe but last year he had the same chaos as the club of these 6 manages face

  • 348 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:02 AM

    with number 2 it is not so much the owner who does not give a manager enough time it is fans.

  • 349 stuart no9 // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:05 AM

    croftus—- you read it wrong – i love winning but at the moment it dosnt happen very often – however if we get tonked but go down fighting , i am just as proud of that as beating man u 5-0, but with pards , we are getting a hiding every week and go down with not as much as a wimper- that is what is getting peoples back up.

  • 350 Laurent Robert 32 // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:06 AM

    JFK, fax through those offers now.

    You are making a mockery of even signing players. The whole thing is a grand mess.

  • 351 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:16 AM

    before i head up to bed i will make it easy what i mean with each and every one

    1 moyse replacing SAF it’s like when we lost chris hughton although he was sack but as soon as we saw who was brought in we would start blaming him for bad result which i can see happening to moyse

    2 Chelsea managers have so much pressure to get the results very quickly because they know that if they fail they are sacked. newcastle fans are like that with our managers

    3. wenger now seems to hardly ever bring in much talent before he was able to go on mega unbeaten runs now their defense is awful and the front is not good the same problems are suffered by pardew with our owner.

    4. if we sack a manager why would a decent manager want to come to us while this owner is still here

    5. last season Swansea had no Europe this season they do so this will prove how good he really is and if injuries and or lack of investment are at fault then what is so different with our team.

    6.obvious why i put that one.

    as for me i will always stand by pardew as a decent manager of newcastle the only way i will go anti pardew is if cashley once and for all got some proven decent players by decent i mean players who also get linked to teams like spurs Liverpool and everton not them who go to a relegation team or us.

    the only truly decent players in our team right now are cabaye and krul you also have colo too but he is getting on now the ones that get over rate are HBA and tioe why the hell do france not even have him in their team and he is so selfish.

  • 352 Uncertain Toon // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:20 AM

    toonking,
    Do you think any of them managers would rather not be in europe?
    And if they even had that fleeting thought of unambitious negativity they’d spout it every week to any reporter who’d listen?
    The only manager on that list you could compare Pardew to is Pulis mate. Like peas in a pod, play gash unattractive football with anyone in any position and then blame everyone and everything but themselves when the wheels come off!
    If you can tell me/anyone Pardews value to our/any Premiership club i’m all ears pal.
    Although I do think he’s being mistreated by upstairs so do feel a slight bit of ‘sorry’ for him.
    However the only reason he is hanging around is because he knows in his heart of hearts that he will never get a job as big as this one!

  • 353 RonVanDam // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:36 AM

    Uncertain Toon

    I hope hughton shows MA why he got it wrong by sacking him 2 years ago. I rate him higher than any British manager in the league and that includes Moyes.

  • 354 RonVanDam // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:48 AM

    I wouldn’t be surprised if JK doesn’t sign any first team players in this window

  • 355 Uncertain Toon // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:51 AM

    RVD,

    I here ya, he just goes about his business with his unassuming,confident manner and looks like he’s building a decent side down there. I notice he got shot of Holt as he knows that brand of football only works in the championship. And we’re reading that Shola ain’t goin anywhere, I despair!

  • 356 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:30 AM

    @RVD – totally agree. Looks like Kinnear has come in just to take the flak for spending nothing despite it being blatantly needed.

    As that is his ONLY remit he would deserve a huge amount of criticism for failing miserably.

    Though, I still don’t want Gomis. He is clumsy and more importantly we need a fast forward to play on the left not a target man to lump it up even more to!

    If Pardew wants people and Kinnear doesn’t then we have a massive problem.

  • 357 Chris // Jul 26, 2013 at 5:00 AM

    @ Toon73
    Yes, there is a fans group in Sydney and you can find them on facebook (facebook.com/pages/Newcastle-United-Supporters-Sydney/203635423028204)

    If you’re looking for a decent pub to watch the games, the Royal Exhibition Hotel in Surry Hills seems to be the place to go -
    http://aussiemags.tumblr.com/sydneypub

    HWTL

  • 358 nut meg // Jul 26, 2013 at 5:47 AM

    Great news Ed,delighted for you & your family.

  • 359 Santon03 // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:18 AM

    I thought MA deals with negotiation and JK is the one who identify the targets?
    Judging by january transfers, it would have been quick negotiations unless we have 2nd thought about Gomis or Lyon lies and try to open bidding war.
    It could be we have 3 or 4 targets for striker and still weighing who will be the most suitable ones.

  • 360 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:21 AM

    Good to hear of your good health Ed.

    Now regarding Pardew. It’s all very well blaming the man at the helm, but in this case, when you have an owner as Mike Ashley it’s simply not the case.

    We all know Pardew has his faults, plenty managers do. But when your set-up for failure from upstairs then you really should not expect anything else.

    Blaming Pardew for all the misfortune is ridiculous.

    As for his comment about Europe, too right I don’t want to be in Europe, do I want another season like last when we were ill equipped and got slaughtered in the league? No thanks. Not Pardews fault he was set-up for failure. The same would happen all over again and we would go down this time, teams have strengthened even more than last! Have we?

    As soon as we got hit by numerous injuries to 3-4 key players we were done for. That squad is still the same. We are still lacking all over the park. Blame Ashley not Pardew. He is doing his best under a shocking regime and very little backing unless it suits Mike Ashley. Like staying in the league!

    Everyone from the top to the players is to blame for last season and the board takes the brunt of it. It dosn’t take a genius to work that out.

    Using Pardew as the scapegoat is cowardly and pathetic.

    In this scenario, when we are so badly and shockingly run, the buck stops with the owner. Simple as that for me.

    Even if Pardew was removed and another manager was brought in it would be exactly the same. Same lack of ambition, same poor appointments, same lack of investment on the football squad. Who on earth do people think is going to work for such a regime?

    Right now, Pardew is about the only thing that’s stable right now at NUFC and he atleast behaves with a certain dignity. Unlike the rest of them who is high up at NUFC.

    Ashley needs to invest and hire the right professional people or be on his way. Until then know manager will make a damn bit of difference to the turmoil this club is suffering.

  • 361 HullMag6 // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:36 AM

    Amen, Prodigy.

    Fantastic Ed. Let’s hope for more good news today.

  • 362 Toon73 // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:39 AM

    @Chris

    cheers mate I looked em up. The REH is a quality establishment too :)

  • 363 cyprus // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:49 AM

    So,
    Pardew yes- pardew out
    religious squabbles
    Wonga good-bad
    boring winning football – exciting losing football
    foreign fans- local fans etc. etc.
    plus your polls Ed! e.g. has Cisse damaged his case? Well, tough one, let me think ;)

    Thought I hadn’t missed any action, I was wrong. Before the PL starts we’ll be subdivided into divisions of factions. e.g. the ‘employable boring-football foreigners anti-Pardew pro-hoofball’ clique vs the…

  • 364 Santon03 // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:10 AM

    Toon Prodigy

    Ok, let’s leave pardew out from the blame game and it was not entirely his fault and if he is equiped with better squad he will be great manager for us for the next 7 years.
    You are saying that MA need to invest more and hire the right professionals. Invest more money, how much more you reckon? like Chelsea/PSG/Monaco/Mcity?
    Hiring the right professionals, that could be difficult since MA is not really footballing man, he doesn’t know that many foreign professionals. Usually DOF are former players or managers at the club, he’s definitely not going to appoint Shearer or KK as DOF, since he knows only handful of people JK probably the only on he knew for the job. He is following the patern of ex manager or player to be DOF unfortunately JK is his only option, if he has so many options he wouldn’t hire elderly with heart condition and foul mouth. As for the right professionals, probably more than just DOF, I think we need more or better coaches to support pardew.
    We sometimes think everything is so easy like 1+1=2, but reality is not that easy especially for MA. I believe he is trying to make this club better, nobody in his right mind spending hundreds of million to fail, but he just don’t have that many channels abroad and limited resources unlike Chelsea or PSG or Mcity.
    From top to bottom all English, not one foreign staff and we have more foreign players than English.
    I just hope that JK will succeed for our sake, I couldn’t care less if he takes all the credits.

  • 365 Toon73 // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:12 AM

    Good news on the health front, Ed ! :)

  • 366 headtheball // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:22 AM

    No news. No signings. No hope. Is there anyone at the helm or is this the Mary Celeste?

  • 367 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:35 AM

    Santon,

    Don’t have any sympathy for the man, he has none for you, thats’s for sure.

    All it would of took is to hire a football man with a good pedigree and contacts in the game to set up his personnel structure for the past 5 years. Do the interviewing, hiring and firing. You don’t need to have trust and you do not need to know them personally.

    They are professional people in this game, if they have a good reputation and have a good track record in the game then they are upto the job. It could of all been done for him if he hired the correct person.

    Instead, we have a load of third rate managers who have been out of work for a long time. People put into job positions they have never had an ounce of experience at and resignations on top of it.

    He advertises Sports Direct and reaps in record profits year after year with them as we supply the free advertising for it. But yet, he will not treat us with the same respect?

    Personally, I think it’s a complete disgrace the way he runs this club in comparison with Sports Direct.

    I don’t want millions upon millions ploughed in, I want us set-up the best with whatever we can afford to give the league are best shot.

    Forward planning, professionally run, suitable recruitment in all levels aswell as the squad.

    Not the circus that I’v witnessed this past 5 years.

    Leaving work, this is your wack out of me for today haha.

    Catch you in a bit mate.

  • 368 xx sum ting wong xx // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:37 AM

    Bollocks to this pardew love in. The guy hasn’t been given the best chance of success. I’ll agree with that but come off it. Pards tactics are crap. Substitutions?? I won’t even bother. Then the prat opens his mouth lol

  • 369 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:57 AM

    Charlie,
    Have you seen the news today? The Church of England holds an investment in one of Wonga’s biggest investors! And here was me thinking that NUFC was run in a farcical fashion!

  • 370 jeff // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:59 AM

    GK: Krul
    RB: Debuchy
    CB: Santon (tall and speed)
    CB: Colo
    LB: Mbiwa (better LB then CB)
    RW: Sissoko
    CM: Cabaye
    LM: Ben Arfa
    ST: Cisse
    ST: Gomis
    ST: Bent

    top 6 team easily.would compete for cl

  • 371 jeff // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:02 AM

    Sub in Jonas for Ben Arfa if we are up against a top top side.

  • 372 Santon03 // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:03 AM

    Toon Prodigy

    It’s not about sympathy, I don’t know the guy personally, just trying to see things differently or understand the problem.
    It’s not like there is a job center where professionals leave their resume and contact number. It’s also about the availability of those prof. Even if hire that kind of prof and more investment is not guarantee success or what we want to see.
    Why can’t he advertise his own company? It doesn’t really effect how we play. Even Wonga is just advertisement not really effecting how we play. He was trying to get more money for the club or for himself by selling the naming right and ads. I don’t quite understand the logic here, I mean when we invest in something we put money in and expect benefits or profits, we will be p!ssed if our investment fail and losing money, why can’t MA do the same thing? Why he has to pour more and more money and crucified if he received some of the profits?

    Btw he has fired many people, Llambias, Houghton, Wise, etc. and during Llambias we were 5th, it doesn’t always worked brilliantly.

    Catch you later, have a good day mate.

  • 373 Ian Toon // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:04 AM

    Jesper – Good morning. Reading back your last posts it would appear that Shearer was the key to us both being toon fans. You don’t have to be a Geordie. For me I had no choice though but to sign up with the toon because my grandfather and father indoctrinated me from an early age.

    Irrespective of club ownership or previous season disappointments I always view the prospect of being present at SJP for the first home game with a feeling of long awaited pleasure and joy. Owners come and go but you remain loyal to the toon.

    The halcyon days were the Keegan era, he was a wonderful communicator to the fans and you felt part of the whole consuming experience. Attractive brilliant football where going to away games meant you were as much a part of a street party as when you were at SJP. Where we took games to the opposition, the whole experience of that time lives in the memory.

    Maybe the blog reflects just how far we have fallen and you should live in the here and now. For me the blog nowdays has the same old same old endless chat and far too many spats on lame issues which are plain tedious and boring. I did learn something yesterday, the reason for Llambias using the reference to purple. It apparently is a high value chip in a casino.

    The Hall v Ashley relative merit debate is not an upgrade on what constitutes a big club. it has been flogged to death on countless phone ins over the years.

    To me the sequence of events far too often suggests a poster who may have been looking for a casus belli, not forced unwillingly into a fight.

    I had a working holiday in June but am looking forward to a full
    break before the WHU game.

  • 374 Lilongwe Geordie // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:08 AM

    It looks like we are getting increasingly close to sealing our first transfer. That keeper from PSV. Don’t understand that move at all. I’m not of the thought that it means Krul is away – although it may mean his injury is a lot more of an issue then we are led to believe.

    We have Krul, Elliot, Alnwick, Woodman, Mitchell. Probably in that order of ability at the minute. Alnwick and Woodman have the potential to be very good keepers, great in Woodman’s case. I’m not sure what Mitchell got a new contract for, considering his loan spell last year was at Workington Reds, not exactly top drawer.

    Other positions are more essential, and as far as back up to a keeper is concerned experience is vital if you have to come off the bench in a big Prem match – Schwarzer going to Chelsea is a great example of a back up keeper. Alnwick should be loaned out this year as well, like we did with both Krul and Forster.

    Goalkeeper is the one position you can bring players in outside of the window with an ‘emergency loan’. So even if we were down to Krul and Elliot, and 1 or both were injured we are able to bring in short term cover, so why does this seem to be our first call for transfers!!!

  • 375 xx sum ting wong xx // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:14 AM

    I get the feeling Ashley and the gang have something up their sleeve with a striker. So blatant we need one, yet no movement. Probably Remy but could be someone we have never been linked with.

  • 376 Jail for Ashley // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:15 AM

    Santon,
    Why when defending Mashley do people constantly refer to Man City, PSG, etc none of us are asking for that type of investment just investment when it is clearly needed, you make out that Mashley is a hapless victim in this sorry affair, if so why doesn’t he cut his losseds and sell up, I’ll tell you why because as we wallow in this stability SD is making an absolute fortune and while he’s got SD plastered everywhere his revenue just keeps on increasing while clubs like Spurs leave us further behind.

  • 377 Toon_Tom // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:22 AM

    jeff – give over

    you post a different line up each day – ALL terrible

    Santon at CB – Jonas for Benny – Sissoko on the wing – Bent included in a top6 team???

    Back to school Jeff

  • 378 gazza85 // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:26 AM

    Got to say I’m impressed with Houghton’s dealings with Norwich this summer. Some potentially class signings (including, soon to, be 3 strikers who as we all know are extremely difficult to get signed) and I could see them being dark horses (like us 2 yrs ago).

    Does make you wonder even more how we can’t get signings sorted quickly and efficiently.

  • 379 toon kk // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:29 AM

    Nearly every person I’ve talked to about NUFC thinks we’re a joke! Many of those people support Newcastle quite a few didn’t.
    MA brought a mix up to the club.

  • 380 gar69 // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:32 AM

    We have an owner with very little ambition a director of football who is Ashley’s puppet and a manager who refuses to play a decent brand of football. Top 6!! I don’t think so. More like bottom 6.

  • 381 Jail for Ashley // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:32 AM

    Lil,
    I must say I’m impressed with your knowledge on our keepers and their whereabouts.

  • 382 Jail for Ashley // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:35 AM

    Well the CoE have declared war on w@nga, more publicity for SD more negative press for us.
    SLIMY TOAD OUT.

  • 383 Toon73 // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:37 AM

    Too many dodgy vindaloos for Jeff

  • 384 Assam Toon // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:37 AM

    In absence of any new signings, we could instead discuss about players who will be “like new signings”. I know cisse will be like a new signing, vukcic too. Ben arfa is like a new signing before the start of every season anyways, as he misses most of the previous…

  • 385 Ian Toon // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:44 AM

    Lil – I suspect it ticks a number of Ashley boxes whilst being a good idea because of fitness level of Tim. He reportedly is an excellent prospect, viewed as being a top draw future goalkeeper who would appreciate in value. Word on Tim varies between fit to start the season and the fact that he’s being nursed along in training.

    Are you on here at any other times than earlyish morning?

  • 386 Santon03 // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:03 AM

    JFA

    I may sound like defending MA, I don’t. I’m just being neutral, I’m not joining any bandwagon. I don’t even know the guy, it’s just sometimes people saying everything is his fault like your car broke down, it’s MA’s fault. If it’s that easy to be successful, we would have won a lot of trophies by now .SD is not selling only NUFC stuffs, even if he doesn’t own NUFC, he is still going to put ads everywhere.

    He will invest, just for the right player and price. You wouldn’t want us to buy unproven for 10 to 15 mil, would you?




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