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New Complications For Newcastle In Gomis Transfer

2:09 pm, Friday, July 26th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 275 Comments

It seems things are getting a little bizarre in the attempt of Lyon President Jean-Michel Aulas to cash in on his star striker Bafetimbi Gomis this summer, before Gomis becomes a free agent next year.

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Bafetimbi Gomis – conflicts with Lyon owner

And the hold-up in his transfer, hopefully to Newcastle, may not be because of Newcastle at all, but because the owner is asking too much for a player who will become a free agent in less than twelve months.

News in L’Equipe today that the relationship between owner and striker have deteriorated – although they were never very good to start with.

Bafetimbi Gomis and Jean-Michel Aulas  were scheduled to meet yesterday to discuss the transfer, but it seems that Gomis didn’t bother turning up.

Here is what L’Equipe has reported Aulas are saying today:

“We gave him a letter by hand but he did not come,”

Gomis and his agents are saying that Lyon are asking €10M (£8.5M) plus a €2 (£1.7M) bonus, which is far too much in their eyes.

On the other hand,  Lyon are accusing Gomis of asking for too large a signing-on bonus, so maybe the problem lies in the greed of both Lyon and the player – and Newcastle seem to be right in the middle of it.

If either of the above two claims are true it makes it much more difficult for the Magpies to sign Gomis.

There’s a circus going on with this transfer, but it could be at Lyon rather than at Newcastle.

But of course there’s always Loic Remy of QPR available, and Darren Bent of Aston Villa too, so we are assuming Newcastle are moving on parallel fronts for all three strikers.

Here’s still hoping for a good outcome on the Gomis potential deal.

Comments welcome.

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275 responses so far ↓

  • 1 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    this sounds more and more like the debuchy saga or douglas one.

  • 2 toonluvva // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    If it’s complex, just wait until JoKe gets involved.

  • 3 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    what I think is happening now is that as the French has now got a billionaire owner at PSG they will be starting to demand massive amounts of money for players.

  • 4 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    by that I mean all teams are going to be charging large amounts.

  • 5 expatmag // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    Dok

    Dempsey is too old even though he cou;ld do a job

    Remy will be to much of a risk for Ashley

    Gomis has gone awol and Lyon want way over his market value which we wont [ay.

    It looks like Bent will probably be the only major signing and that will more than likely be closer to the end of august.

    That is my assessment of the situation

  • 6 luke.r // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    it is never easy is it with us :(

  • 7 croftus5678 // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    we have backed out of plenty of players over bidding wars or players wanting too much and thik we was expecting 4mil seeing as he’s out of contract soon and they want rid of him.

    i cant see this happening now tbh just more wasted transfer time for us and excuses lined up ! remy they will wait till after the decision so i’m thinking that may be too late to tie up also. and bent has refused to drop from 80k pw so thats him outa the window >..<

    just hope we can pull something outa the bag.

  • 8 geordiemark // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    complications is our middle name, thats why its a mess at sjp

  • 9 expatmag // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    If a bidding war for Gomis occurs, we wont get involved and if his salary is too high, then we certainly wouldn’t take him.

    Same goes for Bent and Remy. Neither is worth 70K per week.

    I would rather offer Blackburn 6 million for Rhodes and pay him 30K per week. He will score goals.

  • 10 lesh // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    We can’t even walk away easily – we need a couple of strikers in and most of the quality’s either going nowhere or too expensive – oh nearly forgot the ones we’ve watched go elsewhere.

    Joe’s doing a sterling job for us and I wonder if Ashley’s asking him to explain exactly what he’s done, doing and plans to do? If he’s not, that’s just wilful neglect!

  • 11 JDdubai // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Im more concerned that Carlton Cole is available again….

  • 12 geordiemark // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    like others have said all i can see is maybe bent coming in thats our transfers this summer over with, then come january when were in the bottom 3 ashley will shit big time because he will be missing upto 70 million quid from sky ect ect same old stories same old excuses same old pardews crap

  • 13 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    just gives more reason as to why we have got no hope of a very decent manager coming to Newcastle.

  • 14 2_goal_tino // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    I was watching the sky premier league review from the year we finished 5th last night and it made me think how many clubs have changed manager. So I did some research…

    Did you know that after Wenger, Pardew is the 2nd longest serving premiership manager? That’s absolutely crazy!

  • 15 croftus5678 // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    @11 jd

    rofl just when i was at my worst you put a smile back on my face/

  • 16 DokToon // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    expat,

    dempsey may be 30, but i tend to think you balance youth with experience…. NUFC tends to look for the youngest players, as to not have to shell any cash out.. if thats the case, my son is 7, and a cracking striker/midfielder lol :)

  • 17 geordiemark // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    ahh ive figured it out joe kinnearbasher has forgot his months supply of medication thats why we havent signed anyone, can a very large emmena be added to his perscription :) and shove one up ashleys arse as well and pardew :)

  • 18 expatmag // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    Lesh

    Might be all part of the plan to frustrate Pardew ointo submission and then JFK will ride in on his white charger to guide us to safety after a few astute January signings

  • 19 croftus5678 // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    @16 dok

    no matter how many young talented players we have ! i think many forget how balanced we are in having the totally old/useless/slow/experianced and loyal *cries* shola to completely make our team look under avg.

  • 20 expatmag // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    Dok

    Yes, I agree he would be an asset but because there is no re-sale value, he wont be considered which makes me wonder why we are after Bent

  • 21 geordiemark // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    there is no way pardew is walking away from a 10.5 million quid contract would yous am damn sure I wouldnt and who can blame him, ashley was the nonse that give him the contract in the first place now whos an idiot ashley answers on the back of a postage stamp :)

  • 22 jamesnufc86 // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    best to just try and switch your attention to other activities. Checking Newsnow every 15 minutes bracing myself for a pleasant surprise is getting tiresome. Ive actually managed to mow the lawn, wash the car and even started playing golf again, all little distractions that help.

  • 23 geordiemark // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    jamesnufc86

    you could build a house and they still wouldnt have done any deals no point looking, when does the transfer window close anyone know

  • 24 GeordieAnt // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    @13

    The fact that Lyon want too much, and the player might be being greedy goes to show why we would never get a great manager? Did you just manage to change something that has nothing to do with Pardew into something that still has nothing to do with Pardew? Lol

  • 25 Bring Back Laurent Robert // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    QPRs owner tweeted these a little earlier.

    Tony Fernandes ?@tonyfernandes 2h
    If a player wants to leave and he’s been fair to the club and club are treated well then I will never stop them.

    Tony Fernandes ?@tonyfernandes 2h
    Over the next few days some players you love will go because they want to and some you don’t will also go. And some new blood will come

  • 26 Novocastrian66 // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    I think this will be a loyalty bonus dispute between Lyon and Gomis. His club probably do not want to pay what he believes he is entitled too, Newcastle will not want to fund the loyalty bonus as this is a deal between Gomis and his club.

  • 27 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    Dok
    Thank you!!! Said the other day I’d heard spurs were looking to move Dempsey on, would be a fantastic buy!!!
    Can play LW RW CAM even played CF a few times for Fulham, he has a fantastic range of passing, plenty of experience, great vision, brilliant positioning, can actually take a corner, strong on the ball which allows him to make some great direct driving runs and will bring 10-15 goals a season whether that be through scoring them or setting them up!

  • 28 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    joke announces a signig from hong kong and and china
    fuke cu ni wan will sign.

  • 29 brian kilclines pony tail // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    i bet we try and get gomis on the cheap right at the end of the window, if we dont it’ll be bent on loan with a view to a permanent deal for the season and pay half his wages 40k per week which is around what we would orrer him anyway and villa will accept it just to get half his wages paid for a year, remember how hindering xisco was on our finances.

  • 30 gus3232 // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    what the fcuk is going on,what is kinnear actually doing,he said 5 weeks ago we would have striker by the next friday,can see all our ‘targets’ goin elsewhere.

    Remy has a release clause,activate it for gods sake,not exactly breaking the bank, 6 million and pardew is a joke,he hasnt got a clue and makes it up as he goes along

    he already building up for excuses why we didnt buy strikers…… then the old couldnt get it over the line crap,and ashley just happy keeping all the tv money

  • 31 JP...from The Rock // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    This is going to take forever :(

    Everyday I wake up in anticipation of some good news only to be left wanting AGAIN.

    The only highlight this summer has been Cisse and Colo staying but they shouldn’t have been close to leaving in the first place had we done our transfer business early last summer. And what do we do this summer? -take forever in getting ‘player over the line’!”

  • 32 DokToon // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    croftus, expat…

    let me phrase this is a selfish way MA would understand… he wants NUFC to be global, signing an american player would be huge for sales of the shirts here in the states, and finally supplant all the manure one i see… just an opinion…. and i know id buy all three of them, to go with the 5 i already have :)

  • 33 jamesnufc86 // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Id love to be a fly on the wall when Kinnear, Carr and Pardew have their transfer agenda meetings. Lots of swearing and awkward moments. Kinnear asking Pardew how the training regime got on in Italy

  • 34 Goodfella // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    Ed just noticed the health update glad your doing well bud, and once again thanks for the good work you do running this blog.

  • 35 gus3232 // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    and how did norwich city manage to bid for a player,talk to him then have a medical and he has signed holding up the shirt all in 24 hours

  • 36 brian kilclines pony tail // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    i just hope to god that at the first home game of the season they introduce joe to the fans and a chorus of boo’s starts raining down on him.

    it’s the only thing to look forward too this season.

  • 37 richyg01 // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    OK, so that would excuse the Gomis transfer dragging on, but what about other transfers – Remy, Bent, Zoet

  • 38 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    @23
    where did I say this has anything to do with pardew?
    all I am saying is why would a very good manager want to join a club that has an owner who is so tight with money in what these days is a game dominated by massive amounts of money.
    take a look at the history of Newcastle over the years with cashley as owner rather than just one story.

  • 39 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    correction@24

  • 40 derekm // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    unbelievable that people are having a pop at kinnear for this one – its obviously an impasse at Lyon and we have to wait. Gomis and Remy first choices, Bent if either falls through or can’t be done, simples.

  • 41 croftus5678 // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    pards is in a bad place tbh everything falls on jk for transfers but jk is also pard’s boss so if jk says shut up he has too lol.

    if we dont get anyone in then its jk’s fault but there is no doubt it will all fall on pards shoulders as he will have to say what good players he has atm and that we can cope or he will have no hope in motivating and keeping happy the players that are there atm !untill it’s unbearable and he has no choice to leave.

    if he does leave its no good thing though as ash/jk will understand how far they can push the manager/fans ect and get away with it.

  • 42 Bring Back Laurent Robert // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    People aren’t even talking to each other on here, sat stewing, working themselves up into a tizz asking the same questions and bitching.

    Time for a break from the blog, I’ll be back shortly before our first game.

  • 43 Magpietillidie22 // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    CH over at Norwich obviously took Graham Carrs scouting reports with him then aye? lol Fair play to Norwich, speculating to accumulate whereas Ashley Wants to just trawl through Carrs list to find players with clauses, end of contract or a bad reputation. So demoralized this year :/ first time ever

  • 44 expatmag // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    More like wont be done………………but I am happy to be surprised

  • 45 xx sum ting wong xx // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    Not bothered if we don’t get Gomis. Would rather wait for the right player tbh

  • 46 Magpietillidie22 // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    Haha Gomis goes AWOL… hmm HBA anyone? NUFC and Benny have obviously told him how to get out

  • 47 Magpietillidie22 // Jul 26, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/26/article-2378959-03EF1D00000005DC-325_634x375.jpg

    In this pic… is it me… or does JFK look like he’s a Lord Of The Rings Hobbit that’s escaped?

  • 48 Unbelievable Tekkers // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    Don’t know what the Lyon president is playing at you can’t come out and say a player isn’t wanted when he’s in the last year of his contract and then demand a high fee.

  • 49 AndyMac // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    xx sum ting wong xx says

    “Not bothered if we don’t get Gomis. Would rather wait for the right player tbh”

    Yeah lets wait until we get relegated then we wont need “top notch” strikers just ones who can bully their way out of the Championship :)

  • 50 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Is it safe to come on or could one again be accused of not being a proper fan and should go and support Citeh or Chelsea?

    …what a let down some ppl on this blog can be at times (luckily I don’t really care…it is just a shame)

    So we are between two rocks with regards to the Gomis deal? Maybe we should learn our lesson and move on to thxe next target (if there is another target)

  • 51 Jamseyd24 // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    Nothing is ever simple when Newcastle are involved it seems.

  • 52 Tubai // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    Just can’t sort out what’s happening. Clubs like Norwich has already signed top striker like van wolfswinkel and just heard Gary Hooper has passed a medical ahead of a proposed move to Norwich. Swanse are consolidating on their strong foundation of last season which we didnot do last season. Just so hard to grasp, are we becomin a lesser club compared to these clubs failing to attract our top targets. Being a loyal and lifelong newcastle fan i just hope we show some sort of ambition.

  • 53 ilovetoon8788 // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    Seen that Fulham are soon to complete the signing of Osvaldo from Roma. A very good player. Great capture.

    Sucks to see clubs around us sealing their targets such as top forwards like Osvaldo, while we don’t know what’s going on regarding ours.

  • 54 Jamseyd24 // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    Tubai, Whats happening is no decent players want to come to newcastle anymore for more reasons than 1. It just seams to be a media circus at SJP every few weeks it something else.

  • 55 roe997 // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    We need players now for a decent preseason. All of this nonsense is driving me crazy.nothing is ever simple with us,especialy with MA at the helm

  • 56 nico // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    Apparently we haven’t even bid for Gomis so what is going on?
    With teams like Swansea, Southampton, Norwich bringing in some good players, looks like its going to be a relegation fight again.
    Ashley is not bothered as long as we stay in the Prem, he will make good money.

  • 57 Transfer Sage // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    jesper

    exactly…we need to either pay the fee or move on.

    Carr said he gets a list of 4-8 for each position so surely there are other options for us. There are plenty of good strikers to bid for.

  • 58 ffgibbo // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    How the hell can Norwich, Southampton, Hull and Sunderland all afford these transfers and yet we can’t???? We get thousands more through the gates each week!!!! #fustrated!!!

  • 59 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    57
    that’s the problem these days the stadium capacity counts for pennies the real money is from sponsors and TV

  • 60 cbtoon82 // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:34 PM

    David crossan is saying gomis is reportedly earning £260,000 a month at Lyon, no chance were after him. Unless he takes a paycut.

  • 61 WWYCD // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    So gone from 3 offers on the table for Gomis to none because they are asking too much… Right

  • 62 nico // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    cbtoon82
    That’s 60 Thousand a week. That’s what you pay for a top goal scorer, minimum.
    What’s Cisse on?

  • 63 magicbus // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    We can forget Remy he went to Fulham for the money so he`s not going to accept less wages by coming to us.

  • 64 nico // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    ffgibbo

    Difference them teams to us, is there wage bill won’t be as high yet as there are still quite a few players that were promoted with them. They also have an owner who is willing to spend the Sky TV money as he is interested in how the club progresses.

  • 65 Magpietillidie22 // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    @62

    That Magicbus must be really magic if Remy went to Fulham for the money lol ;P

    Where is all this Remy stuff coming from? I havent seen anything concrete or reliable to say we’re in for Remy?

  • 66 Indian Magpie // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    James tavernier to Shrewsbury town Confirmed

  • 67 Jackel001 // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    Gomis apparently on €300k a month and he wants an improvment and a big sign on fee… If thats the case then on to the next one, we wont pay stupid money for a player imo who is average at best!

    Magicbus

    He went to QPR…

  • 68 Magpietillidie22 // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    @65 Good good, needs to keep getting exp, shame we cant get players into championship sides though

  • 69 STB // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    Article on NUFC women’s team saying how they are scraping around trying to gets sponsors because the club won’t support them financially. Hardly surprising… but you would think that the first team squad almost all on about 20 -70 k per week could sponsor a player or two each or is that too much to ask?

  • 70 WWYCD // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    Deductions in wage are higher in France so a increase in his actual net gain wouldn’t be out of the question probably

    Plus we have clearly talked to his agents if we actually have an interest in him so wages are probably not that much of a stumbling block unless its just tosh to feed us

  • 71 WWYCD // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    STB
    Pretty sure that’s written in Arsenal players contracts

  • 72 Magpietillidie22 // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    @69

    Yeah, like with Benny and Debuchy and Cabaye, I think weve probably been talking to the players agents months before a bid went in and orchestrated his “walk-out” anyway

  • 73 richyg01 // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    Keegans’ Entertainers vs. Pardew XI

  • 74 Magpietillidie22 // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    @72

    Yeah I just finished reading that, what a load of rubbish lol

  • 75 richyg01 // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    @73

    Yeah my opinion also, not sure where they plucked them ratings from.

  • 76 ffgibbo // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    Ashley must be switched on, Sports Direct is raking it in!!
    but even I can see that if you spend 10-15 million and buy decent players, you have more chance of finishing high in the league maybe winning a cup and then attracting better sponsorship and TV money!!
    Am I Wrong??

  • 77 Magpietillidie22 // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    Haha, was strange, mind you there are a lot of strange articles being published atm with all the negative vibes around and not just from the southern rags!

    Its spreading like wildfire!

  • 78 sweendog // Jul 26, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    gomis may be on this wage in france but the tax there is a nightmare .. he’ll be on a pay rise even with a lower wage.

  • 79 roe997 // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    Tavs joins shrewsbury on loan

  • 80 usmagpie // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    Hold on what’s all this then, something new from Newcastle? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
    So hopefully I’m wrong on this one, wait for this speech from our Manager, ” although we tried very very hard, to get the right payers we needed at the club, and maybe we just left it to late to get the players but I can guarantee in January we will be pursuing them again”
    Yes every other club in the prem seems to get the players they are after but not us, and come January when we have a few injuries and are in the relegation fight of our life playing defenders as forwards we will go out and purchase to show we mean business. Isn’t this the same old story every year, well Newcastle here is the challenge, actually get the players you say we are going to get and start the season with a squad that actually has cover all over the park, like all the other clubs in the Prem.

  • 81 Le tooooon // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    No way should we pay 10-12 million for this fella.

    I say get demba back!

  • 82 Magpietillidie22 // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    ffgibbo

    Oh hes switched on lol, he is a terrific businessman, full stop. But, as much as the “business” word gets banded around in football, its not a business and never will be a business. Too much passion (mainly on from fans these days mind) involved that even he, a man that has crushed fellow businessman with little care, is forced into mistakes and even anger.

    I suspect after all his input financially hes done and we have to pay our own way from now on. And I may be wrong but isnt the new money staggered? I mean we didnt just get handed a check for £70mil right now did we?

    I suspect MA’s orders are we only spend whats in the accounts and no more and we have to operate in profit from now on.

  • 83 WWYCD // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    Magpie
    Exactly if we are talking price for him he has in some way agreed to a wage we’d be happy to pay I’d imagine

  • 84 roe997 // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    With tavs leaving as well as fergie on loan.that makes squad even smaller

  • 85 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    @72
    who the hell published that article. what annoys me most is yet again they describe KK as though he is a god yet forget that he twice walked out of Newcastle.
    the manager who should be getting the best respect is SBR.

  • 86 Magpietillidie22 // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    WWYCD

    Yeah, and like others have said, once the french players come over here even on same wage its an increase in “take-home-cash”

    Toonking

    Agreed. Dodgy dodgy article

  • 87 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    if I were pardew I would stop talking to the press all together because he is sandwhiched between fans getting sick of him repeating the samething all the time and a owner and DOF forcing him to say these excuses so they can avoid the blame

  • 88 WWYCD // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    Tavs gone to league 1…shows his level imo kids got no chance in the black and white I’d guess

    Magpie
    Aye exactly mate if we don’t get him I doubt it’ll be because of his wage unless we are completely naive….wait a minute

  • 89 Magpietillidie22 // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    WWYCD

    I was wondering about that, why are we loaning to league one teams, but then as you say I guess they’re not much cop :/ I mean the youngsters that eventually turn good AT LEAST get loaned to Champ sides if not Prem!

    Haha… oh please no more negatives, I cant take it, I like to forget whose in charge of deals now

  • 90 oldbobaycliffe // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    if i was kinnear instead of trying to bring harford to nufc i would be taking gus poyet out for a drink and pick his brains about who in his opinion would make it in the pl.his ex team played good football.poyet would be my choice to take over from pardew,as he is not a manager who likes hoofball.

  • 91 yorkshire_magpie // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    I think its looking more and more likely that we aren’t going to sign anyone and the excuse will oh gouffran can play striker now cisse is back like a new signing and we held to all of our top players!

  • 92 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    well get lost old boy you are not getting what you want i tell you what goes on.

  • 93 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    that is a clue for you

  • 94 WWYCD // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    Magpie
    Tbh I’ve never rated Tav always looked below PL standard to me but am no scout. Not shocked he’s off to league 1 though I was be stunned if he makes our starting 11 again, actually more depressed than stunned tbh

    Haha sorry mate

  • 95 WWYCD // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    Would be my iphone seems to have an issue with tenses

  • 96 Magpietillidie22 // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    WWYCD

    I havent seen enough of him, but I just hate seeing our youngsters – the apparent kids who will save us money and eventually becoming first teamers – going to scotland or league 1& 2… just makes you think may as well scrap em! If Campbell gets loaned to any league outside champ or prem i’ll be very depressed!!

  • 97 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    WWYCD
    I’ve been starting to wonder do summers seem a lot more depressing when their has not been a world or European cup?

  • 98 Jail for Ashley // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    It seems funny that when dealing with us that the said club’s chairman starts getting greedy, yet RVW and Bonys chairman were quite amiacable, seemingly.

  • 99 Jail for Ashley // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    toonking,
    Luckily I got caught up in Ashes fever in 2005 so that’s been a distraction so far.

  • 100 Magpietillidie22 // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/bafetimbi-gomis-cost-newcastle-united-5335562?

    If you believe the Chron…

  • 101 Greebol1892 // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    Once another club comes in for one of our targets then you can forget it.

    There has never been any true intent nor ambition to push the club onward – under current leadership. The January signings LUCKILY saved us from relegation but…..
    A tactically naive manager, an out-of-touch DOF, a successful businessman owner who has not a clue about football & running a club……

    The trials & tribulations of being an NUFC supporter will never change. Just a bit harder to bear when you look at the money involved. Makes it so much easier to slag players off when you think that is all the shirt is worth.

    We are not a big club, nor are we able to attract major signings anymore. We need players who are good enough & want to play for us. The likes of Remy & Bent clearly don’t give a hoot to play for us, otherwise these would be in the bag by now. (If we actually showed our true intent)

  • 102 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    Gomis gone AWOL – maybe he’s on his way TOON
    Check out the Bigg Market tonight

  • 103 WWYCD // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    Magpie
    Completely agree mate am all for setting up feeder clubs sync but in Scotland? What the point? The gulf in standards in huge
    If Campbell goes there its probably not a great sign but he’s younger than the rest who have gone out might propel him further than Tav etc

    Toonking
    Yup nothing to distract from our NUFC problems mate haha

  • 104 DokToon // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    toonking,

    i hear that loud and clear sir… even fifa is annoying me these days, need to get on withthe season ffs…

  • 105 Shadow_Shearer // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:35 PM

    What ever happened to JFK claimin there wasn’t enough goals in the team last season, if I see a player that I think can get us 20 goals a season, I’ll go and get him. Not including Ba, our highest scorer was Cisse with 13 goals, after him was Cabaye with 6 goals. That’s not enough! He said this at the same interview when he said 3 of us will iron it out. (JFK,GC & AP decision on a player) when infact its up to MA who comes in.
    Surely JFK has sat down with MA and explained this lack of goals to MA, and if he hasn’t what’s the point in his job?? Especially if we don’t look like we’re gonna make any signings. Can’t see him working well with youngster, as he can’t work well with adults!
    Which brings me 2 my like point, was he brought in as another Dennis Wise. To get rid of Pardew, when he realised he wasn’t going anywhere, he decided on plan B, bring in big Mick Harford. When he refused us, they told the press they wanted him as a scout for the lower leagues. I could be wrong about MH. But it won’t be the first the NUFC fans have bein lied to!

  • 106 WWYCD // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:35 PM

    Gomis taking the HBA route? Haha cheeky get

  • 107 richyg01 // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:35 PM

    Gomis will cost us £8.6M

  • 108 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    JFA
    i don’t mind a bit of cricket myself either their are a few other thing that i do where the most stress come is because the media can’t use England as their main subject so it always seems to be clubs they aim and for us it means stressful stories.
    has a human always been negative or is it that we are turn negative.
    these days negativity seems to be much more common that positivy and i don’t just mean this blog i mean in general take the news for instance all that seems to have is negative stories

  • 109 remy D // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    Times remy coming spunknuts

  • 110 WWYCD // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Cricket?! Christ lads are times that desperation par with egg chasing!!

  • 111 Joe Blog // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    If Alan Pardew mentions ‘get over the line’ once more, I’m going to tie him to a railway line and sit on the verge near him,supping a broon. as he pleads for his life, telling him to ‘get over it’.

  • 112 nufcursed // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    i thought kinnear promised that we would’ve signed someone a couple of weeks ago..
    guess his word means less than nothing.
    we are a club run by pathetic incompetent business men who make newcastle look ridiculous and it sickens me..

    how is it possible that we still haven’t signed a single soul!!??
    there’s something going on at newcastle and it’s clear the fans do not know what.. i cannot understand this situation at all.
    i hope ashley, kinnear and pardew get out asap

  • 113 nufcursed // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    we are run by 3 liars

  • 114 Mister Tuff // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    KLAXON/HOOTER/ALARM.
    Neanderthal/jackass alert.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gROO7xSTxfY

  • 115 richyg01 // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    Think Sissoko is going to be V. Disappointed.

  • 116 Jail for Ashley // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    WW…,
    I’ve got tickets for the fourth day fourth test just turned down a job so I could make it :0

  • 117 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    NUFCcursed
    don’t you dare say things like that i warn you.

  • 118 WWYCD // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    JfA
    Whatever floats ur boat my friend haha

  • 119 sparky55 // Jul 26, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    Good news… Pappis has come to an agreement to wear the wonga shirt until such time he leaves for pastures greener in Russia..

    Anyway…he’s apologised to the fans for not going to Portugal and for refusing to wear the wonga sponsored shirt and has promised to give 1394% this coming season!

    You’ve gotta laf haven’t you!

  • 120 Joe Blog // Jul 26, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    Hopefully when we play Blackpool on Sunday, Pardew can probe around the possibility of Tom Ince, with his daddy.

  • 121 Tsunki // Jul 26, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    Don’t think its alan doing the probing. Be very surprised if we sign anything of note besides the direct debit for the gas bill.

  • 122 Tsunki // Jul 26, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    If you look back over recent transactions, with few exceptions every player we were ‘on the verge of signing’ turned up one or two transfer windows later. I think Mike has done his big shop for now, he might send one of the minions round for the odd stop-gap item to the corner shop but no big trolley getting wheeled out for a while I think.

  • 123 PennStateToon // Jul 26, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    Never could get into cricket. Enjoy footy and rugby even, but cricket is a mystery to me.

  • 124 Tsunki // Jul 26, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    Crickets only mystery is that it is still around.

  • 125 Sazzer // Jul 26, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    Most teams arounds us now has, at least on paper, one new interesting striker setups.
    Bony Michu
    Osvaldo Berbatov
    Hooper Wolfswinkel
    Helenius Benteke
    Long Anelka
    Altidore Fletcher
    Maybe even:
    Cornelius Campbell
    Murray Gayle

  • 126 Rotonda heights // Jul 26, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    oldbobaycliffe

    That’s how I’d play it too. The mere suggestion of Harford in any capacity was an insult but Poyet temporarily even as a tea boy would place him in situ.

    We know Pardew won’t change from hoofball because frankly it’s all he knows and Simmo and Willo are long departed so can’t blame them any more.

  • 127 plana // Jul 26, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    Reading between the lines Pardew, knows no signings are expected. Maybe if Cabaye or Cisse had skinned out for decent wonga. It may have sparked some activity.

  • 128 Sazzer // Jul 26, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    (Osvaldo – not done yet)

  • 129 jazzyp // Jul 26, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    Afternoon all.
    Sazzer-bony michu looks tasty

  • 130 Sazzer // Jul 26, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    Helenius 1.95m 6 ft 5 in and Benteke 1.90 m 6 ft 3 could become one powerful pair at least in the air. Unless Helenius is worse than E-Bay-Bendtner.

  • 131 plana // Jul 26, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    If the club could sack Pardew, that would be step forward.

  • 132 Sazzer // Jul 26, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    Now Stoke have added to their striker force as well with the loan of Nélson Oliveira. He seem to struggle with the goals so far in his career.

  • 133 jazzyp // Jul 26, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Im getting slightly worried that NUFC are not actively searching for any CF at all now.Percy I see has come out and given gouffran the go get us some goals bs,Which to me speaks volumes in our pursuit of our supposed transfer targets.
    Gouffran although a good player for what we paid for him is definitely not a striker that is going to guarantee you 20 +goals a season which is what we are lacking .

  • 134 jimmytoon // Jul 26, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    Any1 think Gary hooper for 5 mill would have been a good signing him or bent for 5 mill

  • 135 RooneyToons // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    Sazzer

    A classic Stoke CF then

  • 136 JAMSHA // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    hooper anytime

  • 137 RooneyToons // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    Jimmytoon

    Its really hard to tell with Hooper because he’s been playing in a league a lot worse than the Championship…. think Kris Boyd absolutely banged them in for Rangers comes to England and he couldn’t hack it.

    Maybe Hoopers gonna be the exception but theres a reason only QPR and Norwich were in for him.

  • 138 Mister Tuff // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    The quickest way for JK to get Percys’ job is not to get any decent (or any) signings in. The team will struggle without reinforcements -fans will revolt -Percy gets the bullet and JK is ready and waiting in the wings – with his mate Harford on standby. Then JK will get the additional players in during the January window. We survive the drop and JK is the hero.

  • 139 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:11 PM

    @ plana
    which of these would you like then
    gus poyet
    joke
    lee clark
    neil lennon
    or steve mcClaren

  • 140 papscrunt // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:11 PM

    We are going to re-sign Frank Pingel. I can feel it in my bones.

  • 141 Toon1978 // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    Hahahaha, what a surprise. Gomis deal hits a snag. Hahahahahahahaha…..OHH DEAR!!!

  • 142 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    we all want pardew out because joke kinear is now about.
    when joke is in we will win unlike pardew who’ll cause the relegation bin.

  • 143 HullMag6 // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    Getting Cisse sorted is like getting a new player over the line…..

    If we hear that from Joke or Pardumb you have my permission to slap them with a wet cod.

    Gomis will earn more by virtue of lower taxation over here although pay may be similar.

    Are we saving a remy move til deadline day?

    Just a few of todays random thoughts.

  • 144 jimmytoon // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    Rooney toons: good point tht m8 bent is proven
    Goal scorer still hate him tho

  • 145 papscrunt // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    Deadline day always means inflated prices and wages. Players hold all the power and knowing you have to make a deal gives them even more. All the teams around us have done the right thing and got players in early. As for Bent, I see him as one of those players on the decline. Lots of players go through it. They have a lot of money and take the foot off. Bentley, Joe Cole, Vassell etc all spring to mind as players who have done the same.

  • 146 tomellifred360 // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    I would like to take this opportunity to apologise to my son. As a Geordie exile living in the South-East my son has spent aproximatley one month of his 17 years in the North-East and yet he is a massive Toon fan like his old man.
    I was so proud of my son running onto footie practice as a youngster. He would be wearing the only Toon strip surrounded by a plethora of Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs and ManU strips. And what legacy have I given him? A life of misery and angst! Sorry, son!

  • 147 niafron // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    Bonsoir messieurs.

    We just got to be patient about Gomis. He need to leave and Lyon desperatly need cash.

    It will be some delay cause of the awfull relationship between the player and his president, but the price will go down after a while.

  • 148 Joe Blog // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    In reality Gomis ‘only’ earns £19.5k a week in France, due to the heavy hitting 75% tax rate, if his reported salary of £65k a week is correct, even if we offered him parity with Cisse, supposedly £40k pw, after tax he’d still be getting an increase of about £3k here in the Blighty.

  • 149 niafron // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    The 75% tax rate has not been voted yet. And it seem it will never happen.

  • 150 niafron // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    Right now the taxe rate is about 45 or maybe 50%.

  • 151 Rotonda heights // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    joe blog

    good point, well made.

  • 152 Joe Blog // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:48 PM

    That changes a lot then, can’t see us paying Gomis anything like £65k a week and I can’t see why he’d take a wage cut, off the back of one of his best seasons, seemingly coming into his prime – ah well, puts that one to bed, in my mind.

  • 153 Rotonda heights // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    tomellifred360

    Also domiciled in the south east. Apart from KK first time round and SBR it would have been so much easier to support Arsenal, Spurs or Chelsea !! But my dad took me to SJP when I was 8, a 50000 crowd and we beat Liverpool (KK was playing for them) 2-1 and I was hooked. If only I knew then what I know now!!

  • 154 niafron // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    Well, anyway, if Cissé stay at the club now, i don’t see the point to recruit Gomis. Same kind of player. Rémy, Bent or Gignac got the advantage of a different profile.

    Well, sure, Gomis is maybe better quality than Cissé. Maybe, not sure of it.

  • 155 Rotonda heights // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:50 PM

    Joe Blog

    I take it back lol!

  • 156 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    Tuff…Pardew won’t get the bullet for the lack of signings!

    …If he underperforms and is relegation fodder then yes he might the the sack; but if the reason if because of either injuries and lack of signings I don’t it will happen…he is here for 7 years.

    I think Joke will be gone before Pardew and with the current lack of transfer activity it might be sooner rather than later!

  • 157 kevymartins // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    Glad the cisse thing has been put to bed, I could just picture some mackem somewhere started a rumor cisse was trying to get a move out then all naive nufc fans said well i’ll jump on that bandwagon mean while scum fans are laughing there heads off.

  • 158 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    I’d strongly disagree that Gomis is better than Cisse, very strongly indeed.

  • 159 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    Kevy

    Given that some NUFC fans speculated that Cisse was trying to force a move, myself included, I would object to your last statement.

    However, I’ve a feeling you were aware of that.

  • 160 Rotonda heights // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    jazzyp

    TBF Gouffran was the 3rd highest scorer in ligue 1 last season.

  • 161 kevymartins // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    @Ruddy I’m just happy is over and done with,I’m a bit of a cisse fan have him on the back of my tops and think it would have been a shame to see him go.

  • 162 niafron // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    @Rudy

    Said Maybe. It’s the opinion of one of the most famous football analyst in France.

    To be honnest, i don’t know.

  • 163 RooneyToons // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    Yeah I think people are underestimating Gouffy he was being played out of position and when he played up front he looked the part.

    As for Gomis being almost the same as Cisse… Hmmm hardly. Gomis is 10 times better at holding the ball up and playing in other players… He’s also about 3 stone heavier

    Build for the prem

  • 164 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    Kevy

    I agree, he’s a good player, but just be careful who you’re calling a Mackem.

    He’s not immune from criticism, given the whole casino business, so perhaps you should assess all information before claiming that some fans were jumping on any sort of bandwagon.

  • 165 paul24 // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    @toonking

    All teams are charging large amounts for players. Just look at Jovetic and Marquinhos, both good players but neither are worth what they went for. Transfer fees in football are really starting to take the piss, it’s ruining a once beautiful game.

  • 166 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 26, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    Niafron

    It’s an opinion, and in my opinion Cisse is much better. It is not surprising that a French analyst thinks that a French striker, playing in the French league, is better than Cisse.

    Somehow I think he is suffering from some bias, but admittedly so am I.

  • 167 niafron // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    About Sissoko and the last game in Portugal.

    He played the best game of his carreer as a RW. It was with France, during the 1-1 draw in Spain last fall.

    Say that, cause i read many hostile comments about him playing RW.

    Sure, it was only one game. But it was against Spain in Madrid…

  • 168 kevymartins // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    @Ruddy wtf are you talking about haha

    Did I call anybody a mackem? If you read my post it says some mackem started a rumor and the scum are laughting at us. and what you mean just be carefull? even if I did call someone a mackem wtf are they gona do about it? hunt me down with a machete , People don’t own me I can share my nufc opinion anyway I like!

  • 169 niafron // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    Rudy

    Well, for a while, he was a commentator of French second division’s games, so he witnessed Cissé playing for Metz a lot of time.

    So, i guess his judgment come of what he seen at the time.

  • 170 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    Kevy

    You really are a nut case.

  • 171 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    Niafron

    But Cisse has then went on to score 37 goals in 65 Bundesliga games, as well as 21 goals in 50 Premier League games, which are arguably better leagues than Ligue 1, and definitely better leagues than Ligue 2.

    Cisse is a much more clinical striker than Gomis in my opinion.

  • 172 kevymartins // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    @Ruddy Maby, but in the harmless way ;)

  • 173 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    Kevy

    I hope so, I really do.

  • 174 Big Ged // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    I have a strong suspicion that Newcastle United is cursed!!

  • 175 kevymartins // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    @Ruddy lol Come on now me and others on here perhaps are on the mental side but thats it :D

    Btw I had a look at that thing you posted the other day, Good articles, you write them?

  • 176 niafron // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:13 PM

    Statistic are not everything rudy.

    Well, must recognize Cissé got a good ratio when he receive the ball in proper conditions, but he bring almost nothing outside of the pitch.

    So this is why i would prefer an in and out striker.

    Which Gomis is not…

  • 177 ~Joke-innear~ // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:13 PM

    Really wish I could have a high paying job where the requirements are that I do f@ck all… Kinnear you lucky bast@rd..

  • 178 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    Ruddy
    Agree Cisse 21 goals in 50 premiership not bad at all and should have at least 3 more from last year when he was onside and deemed to be offside.
    What Cisse needs is bullets to fire – cos we sadly lack in supply chances for him

  • 179 kevymartins // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    @Joke Come on lad, JK does everything, I bet he is over in Africa building water systems saving lifes as we speak.

  • 180 Ian Toon // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    niafron

    Pardew suggests that this coming season will see Cabaye playing in a more technical passing side . As his passing statistics show,when playing for France, he has the ability to keep possession.
    In France’s 1-1 draw with Spain in Madrid he averaged 94% pass success.

  • 181 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    Didn’t you know, Kinnear delivered the royal baby :) .

    When in reality he is just a fat slob with a bum ticker ;)

  • 182 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    Niafron

    While I agree stats aren’t everything, they do seem to show that Cisse is a better striker than Gomis, but yeah I agree, we need to be targeting a different type of player than Cisse to play along with him, and give us different options.

    Kevy

    Yeah, I’ve a feeling you’re pretty harmless haha Yeah, I did write them, thanks man.

    Charlie

    Cisse is the kind of guy to get on the end of the move rather than create the goal himself, although he can do this from time to time, but he would be a 20+ a season striker if we improved the service to him.

  • 183 niafron // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    @ian toon

    If Cab is still there in September…

  • 184 RooneyToons // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    Why have we sent Tav on loan to Sherewbury??

    He needs to be tested and league one isn’t it…. surely someone in the Championship would of taken him. I’m not saying he’s gonna be a world beater but how’s he gonna get better playing at that standard.

  • 185 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    Cisse is an out and out goal scorer and Gomis is more of a outlet to hold up the ball and interplay with the midfield. The fact Pardew played Papiss right wing tells you everything you need to know about his skills as a football manager.

  • 186 kevymartins // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:27 PM

    I don’t see why they don’t just put up the money for a proper striker, the possibilities would be endless look at shearer he would have turned in a huge profit from what they paid for him. My player of choice would be insigne from napoli or even rooney.

  • 187 Rooster // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    Hello is there any one there! get the frigan cheque book out get layers bedded in, there has been enough spinningof the roulette wheel, action is needed and it isn goofy as centre forward, get some signings in Wyatt Earp! “JK”

  • 188 niafron // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    @Big pappa cissé.

    It’s a bit unfair for Pard. At the time, he faced the will of Ba to leave the club.

    And Ba scored alot in the first half of the season. So the choice was either to put Cissé on the bench, wich would have harmed his confidence in Pard and in the club, or to put him on the RW.

    Wasn’t an easy decision.

  • 189 kevymartins // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    @Rooney toons from experience the main thing you can give a young footballer is confidence and playing in that league he will certainly feel like a world beater.

  • 190 Ian Toon // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:29 PM

    Niafron @ 182 – something I wrote earlier on that very point.127Ian

    Toon // Jul 26, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    If you believe all that you read on football it seems that should Man United fail to secure Fabregas they are coming in for my favourite player Cabaye. Aside from dispensing with my shirt sporting him and not being prepared to buy a new one with a Wonga advertisement ; Cabaye leaving would be a massive loss.

    I find it baffling that many on here dismiss his contribution going forward on the basis of his form last season. Despite an injury ravaged season and a lack of momentum in a sterile midfield he was the main creative outlet. He has a wide passing range and can play long or short to full backs bombing forward or wingers/ wide men but the lack of fluidity and movement offensively made his contribution less than in the previous season.

  • 191 toonie // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    Just in, JFK has just announced that he is close to signing Barfedtimber Gnomes!!! ?

  • 192 remy D // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:33 PM

    Shit club

  • 193 RooneyToons // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:33 PM

    I still fail to see how Gomis is similar to Cisse.. there both strikers yeah.

    Cisse-

    -great finisher
    -unbelievable technique
    -plays on the last line of the defender
    -rarely drops deep
    -poor at holiding the ball up (one thing Ameobi is excellent at)
    -not physical enough
    -Terrible at dribbling past a player

    Gomis-

    -Decent finisher
    -Strong
    -good at holding the ball
    -Drops deep and plays in wingers
    -Fast enough to then get on the end of the wingers cross
    -Tenacious and much more aggressive
    - Can beat his man

    I really think these 2 will work together especially when Gomis is told to drop a bit deeper.

  • 194 kevymartins // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    On the gomis subject I wouldn’t pay more than 5 mil for him with him having 1 year left on his contract and his club are looking like 8.5?? Would rather take our money else wear.

  • 195 ~Joke-innear~ // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    @Toonie

    I heard he was about to Sign

    Obafembini Gomez!

  • 196 RooneyToons // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    Kevy Martins

    Or a false sense of security and a big head haha

  • 197 niafron // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    Iantoon

    Well, Cab said he was “depressed” last season. It say all cause Football players rarely admitt psychologicals problems.

    This one of the many things who make me believe this team mainly need a bit of fun…

    Pleasure is important in Football.

    And it seem Pard and the staff were enlightened by this simple truth, cause it seem things have changed in trainind this summer.

    Less physical and more work with the ball.

  • 198 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    @ Niafron

    Pardew is an overly defensive manager. The kind of guy that plays two DM’s at home against inferior teams. There were times I saw Cisse covering the full backs for Gods sake.

  • 199 toonie // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    @ ~Joke-innear
    I heard the same rumour, but apparently he had tried signing some guy from the Adams family. AP blocked it because of the age policy.

  • 200 Ian Toon // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    niafron – fun! Good idea enjoy your weekend.

  • 201 RooneyToons // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    I don’t want to get rid of Cabaye for the main reason that i don’t think we’d replace him… not to the same standard anyway.

    Although he still has a lot to prove which is why i doubt United are actually interested…. His major downfall being he’s just too damn slow. When he’s on his game though his passing is sublime and he’s a game winner.

    His pace really is David Batty esq though

  • 202 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:40 PM

    And for a defensive manager we get a lot of spankings from teams these days. 6-0 and 7-3 to name a few.

  • 203 niafron // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    Roney toon

    Do not agree. They got in common to be a bit slow and to mainly remain center pitch.

    They rarely went to the wings and they are useless at rushing in the back of the defense.

    So for me, we can’t u se them together cause they will simply pile on each other.

  • 204 niafron // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    @Big pappa cissé.

    Well, said nothing about Pard’s skills. Just made a comment about the particular point of having Cissé as RW.

  • 205 ~Joke-innear~ // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:46 PM

    @Toonie,

    Darn… we could have really used a hand…

  • 206 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    @ Niafron

    Why play Cisse right wing though ? . You can have two strikers on the pitch without one of them having to be on the wing.

    Pardew wants 9 outfield players to defend with one player scoring goals. It doesn’t work like that.

  • 207 toonie // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    @~Joke-innear~

    I agree. JFK said the same, but had to bend to Alan Parsleys wishes.

  • 208 niafron // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    @BPG

    Cause he thougt the team was more balanced like that, i guess…

    Well, wasn’t stupid, don’t think having both Ba and Cissé upfront was a good idea.

  • 209 toon kk // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    There’s one good thing, cisse will be like a new signing!

  • 210 Big Pappa Cissé // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    What do you lads think about Man U ? , My m8 is a United fan and I keep trying to tell him they are not going to do well this season.

    Most people know (including Fergusson) Man U can’t compete with the likes of City & Chelsea anymore. If you actually believe they have the funds to bring in the likes of Bale & Fabregas you should think again.

    They are £600 million in debt and can’t afford to throw money around with their current owners. That is why I think they brought Moyes in, to work on a tight budget. Take Van Persie out of their team and they are average in comparison to City & Chelsea.

    That’s why I have a bet on for them to finish outside the top 3 as well ;)

  • 211 RooneyToons // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    Big Pappa

    It would be amazing if United had a bad season they need to be bought down a peg or 12.
    I live about 10 minutes from Old Trafford and work with so many deluded united fans.

    The closest Rooney to old trafford haha

  • 212 Jail for Ashley // Jul 26, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    Mister Tuff,
    Good evening, that post @ 138 is so close to the truth I got that feeling when reading it that somebody stood on my grave !

  • 213 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    BPC
    I can understand myself why he might be a bit more defensive with our team.
    all you need to do is look at how often HBA looses possession and how poor our midfield is with creativity.
    you said cisse is an out and out goal scorer which I myself would probably agree with.
    the trouble is out and out goal scorers need decent service it is no good for midfielders going into the centre because the defender will be moving up the pitch so theirfore cisse gets offside. what cisse needs is a decent crosser of the ball that way he will struggle less with being offside as the wideman doing the cross is level when he passes it.

  • 214 Jail for Ashley // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:07 PM

    I find it amazingly funny/weird that Llambias and JfK and even Pardew are getting blamed for not getting players over the line, but all the plaudits go out to big Mike when he steps in and gets things done, who signs the fuskin cheque books and why hasn’t he sorted it out already.

  • 215 niafron // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    Got to go lads.

    Bonne soirée messieurs.

  • 216 roe997 // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    Haha of course man u have funds man. Yes they are in debt but they turn over close to 400m a year man. They were in a billon but its reduced to 600m. They can spend and will.

  • 217 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    JFA
    what you said their I agree with most of and it is why I do get so fed up with the amount of blame people put to pardew.
    post 92 and 117 were basically me say something exactly like Ashley or kinear would be saying it to pardew.
    with lambarse atleast he did come out and say stuff but joke I place a lot of blame on him because the longer it takes for something to happen the more I feel that joke is being used to force pardew to walk away.

  • 218 roe997 // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    Just like barca and madrid.they have large turnovers so debt is not the problem.

  • 219 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    BPC
    with regard to manure not being able to compete with the big teams does it have anything to do with them having a new manager

  • 220 Mag.no // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    I’ve been thinking of what went wrong last season, besides Pardew clearly beeing inadequate and that we were a bit unlucky in the injury department…

    I actually believe it has to do with our closing down. Everybody could see we weren’t fit from the start of the season and in every game we were pushed back at some point, even against lesser opponents. Maybe it’s me reaching for straw, but i really need to find some positive about this club now before i go into a deep depression.

    So with our new fitness guru i can see us play higher on the pitch. Also playing 433 makes it a lot easier to close down in defence, midfield AND attack, and get some breaks with our flair players in advanced positions.

    I’m only dreaming of the 433 formation of course(prove me wrong Pardew), but i actually believe we will play better against the bottom 12 this season because of a lot better fitness :)

    Have a great evening lads!

  • 221 toon kk // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    I think there’s something dodgy going on behind the scenes with JFK. Whether it’s too get Pards out or a strict new transfer idea/policy I’m not sure but I think MASHLEY has come up with some brain wave for the club.

  • 222 Sazzer // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:33 PM

    I need to correct my 132 post. Nelson Oliveria ain’t going to Stoke. He’s off to Rennes.

  • 223 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    J4A…with aall due respect we don’t know how transfers really work at Newcastle!

    …in January Mike interfered probably because nothing was happening…and it seems Llambias left because he messed up the transfer window twice.

    Pardew has said before that be doesn’t have much contact with Mike (which is a big problem in my book) and there is no doubt he should be much more involved or sell the club.

    I don’t know how it works but I doubt Mike has be asked everytime they want a player (he knows absolutely nothing about football), but there is a budget not doubt.

    The question is what is the budget and how much convincing does Mike need when Pardew wants to spend big?

  • 224 viv // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    Pardew out! His football is third rate get it from the back to the front as quickly as possible. 500 corners without a goal which is a disgrace. The mackems hammering us at home. Shola still at the club along with Williamson, Colocini, Obertan,Jonas, Elliott all crap. No signings

  • 225 bills-son // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    Mag.no @ 219,

    You are spot on about the closing down.

    However imo it is not about fitness it is about the players and weakness i the squad.

    In the first 12 games of our 5th finish season we were brilliant at closing teams down and had the best defensive record in the four divisions. So what’s changed?

    In those games we had two full backs who stuck to their positions – Simpson and Raylor. We had Guti doubling up as a second LB protecting Raylor and Oba never got the recognition for tracking back. The back four pushed up behind the midfield allowing Cabaye and Tiote to get close the the oppo. Best especially and Ba closed defenders down when they were trying to play the ball out.

    And then…

    HBA replaced Oba, Santon replaced Raylor and Cisse replaced Best.

    Not one of those replacements closed players down and Santon is more a deep lying winger than a defensive left back.

    We won games in the second half of that 5th srason through spectacular Cisse goals even though we were second best in possession in many of them. That luck was never going to last. And last season proved that.

    We are seriously lacking in defensive full backs, height and power in CD and CM and up front. If we don’t sort that out we’ll be rolled over big time in games again this season.

  • 226 lesh // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    Serious question: Is Kinnear still in post?

    Why ask? We’ve not heard a peep from him but ok, he might have been gagged and there’s been no signs of any incoming players – despite our obvious needs;

    If he’s busying himself with an analysis of the footballing side of the business, then surely he should have addressed our glaring player needs and acted accordingly. If he’s still fannying on with his assessment, then he’s clearly out of his depth!

    Or, he could have left us quietly…… If so, please and bring Hiddink in smartish!

  • 227 Jail for Ashley // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    Jesper with double due respect how do we know that Mikey got involved at all but indtead actually sat at the other end of a phone and sanctioned sh!t.

  • 228 Sazzer // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    https://twitter.com/RichySouthern/status/360819256474095616/photo/1

  • 229 yo-yo // Jul 26, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    Agree on the ‘closing down’ discussion that it is a huge gap in our general game we allow the opposition too long on the ball. Some of it is fitness and some stamina – the last 20 mins at Gooners last season comes to mind…
    Trouble is that the entire team can’t have closing down duties -m buit we do need some ball chasers and I’m sure this is why Guti keeps getting on the team sheet despite his other failings. Perchinho was also a decent ball chaser and we may rue selling him as he was a solid squad player

  • 230 Yohan Kebab // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    viv whoa coloccini, gonna draw some stick for that

  • 231 Miguel // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:05 PM

    Did any one just see Tony Fernandes tweet about 10 mins ago, he has just deleted it. Remy left out of squad as deal has been struck!!!!

  • 232 Sazzer // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    Miguel
    I didn’t see it but he made some hinting tweets earlier.

  • 233 jazzyp // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    Rotonda heights@160
    Evening mate-Gouffran had an excellent record in the French lique.
    But we have gone from pea to bony to bent and now percy’s talking as if he has to rely on what players he had to pick from last season.
    Our squad is wafer thin as it is and every NUFC supporter out there can see we need bolstering in certain positions.Why would percy be talking about gouffy stepping up to the plate if we had any intention on signing new forwards.

  • 234 Miguel // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    I went back to snap shot it on my phone but it had gone, i wonder why he took it of! Hope its us whos struck a deal.

  • 235 Joe Blog // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    Remy will be here tomorrow and we can put all this torment behind us.

  • 236 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    J4A…good question!

    …but wouldn’t you then have to agree that all you are saying is your say and based on absolutely nothing concrete?

  • 237 JFK junior // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    Just to lighten the mood….Nile ranger has tweeted a picture of his new tattoo…

    He has has ‘ranger’ tattooed on his temple!

    What an absolute tool…

  • 238 jazzyp // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    I can see us having jack to talk about transfer wise all summer to signing 4-5 players in a week again like January-Or am I being to optimistic again !!

  • 239 Miguel // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    Jfk junior send a pic

  • 240 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    that’s a good way of putting it because when we think back to last year most of our team just stood still but this league is a much faster and physical league where closing players is needed.
    it’s like you said bill when we finished 5th we had 2 FB who made sure they were set ready to close down anyony threats but now we have 2 very aggressive FBs who seem to like getting forward all the time and on top of that we have 1 wideman who seems to not bother trying to retrieve the ball when he has lost it and another wide man who I think is approaching the end.

    last year super mac used to keep saying that the year we finished 5th was truthfully a 4-4-2 formation designed like a 4-3-3 which to me make sense because while it was raylor and obatan who were used.

  • 241 Sazzer // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    jazzyp
    Pardew contradicting himself a lot and to make things worse he’s also quoted without context a lot.

    He’s priority list if I were to guess seem to be:
    1. Striker
    2. Striker
    3. Goalscoring defender
    4. Harper replacement

  • 242 Sazzer // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    It could be that the goalscoring defender were Mbiwa/and Debuchy. And Gouffran one of the strikers.

    That leaves one striker and a goalkeeper.

  • 243 JFK junior // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    I’m not able to copy and send a link. But if somebody else does, search for Suraj182 and it’s on there. He is the guy who posted it.

    Sorry mate. Crap phone. Lol

  • 244 jazzyp // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    Sazzer@227
    That’s a cross Dressing Mackem if I ever saw one lol.

  • 245 YorkshiresFinestGeordie // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    Hey guys, writing from turkey here. Does anyone know what colour the background is on the sponsor, blue or black as I’m looking to get one for my grandad.

  • 246 Uncertain Toon // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    So you’ve got Pardew saying depending on business Gouffy could start games up front with Cisse. I don’t rate Pardew as a manager by any stretch, but he seems a dab hand at club politics.
    I remember him saying that him and Carr put a list to Kinnear, Kinnear and Charnley do tranfers deals and he is solely responsible for squad. Add that gouffy statement to the mix and he appears blameless and rightly so if it’s all true.
    JFK can only counter with good signings to appease fans. I just think it’ll eventually come down to who Mashley likes the most!

  • 247 jazzyp // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    Remy close to signing then eh-where is Toondanno our resident Itk when ya need him.

  • 248 Joe Blog // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    Sazzer

    I didn’t know Deuce Bigalow supported the muckems – you do learn something new every day.

  • 249 jazzyp // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    Uncertain Toon
    Have you noticed how Kinnear came in to the club at the beginning of the transfer window, Guns blazing upsetting everyone.And now he has even disappeared and gone quiet like the rest of the hierarchy.

  • 250 jimmysmith // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    I think Ashley had a falling out with Llambias and turned to the only bloke he knows in football, Joe Kinnear, who has his head so far up his own arse he can’t see himself. Ashley doesn’t have any contacts in the game and doesn’t have time to run the joint himself. If were lucky he’ll recognize when he needs to intervene as he did in January, if not we go with what we’ve got or what Pards and Joe get over the line, which won’t likely wont be anything to write home about. Just a thought.

  • 251 Toon Avenger // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    Yorkshire

    It’s blue

  • 252 Bambams // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:07 PM

    I think i have figured out why Kinnear has not signed any players…….

    The ‘little black book’ he has with A-Z of the Worlds Football managers is full of FAX numbers!

    You would of thought the loud pitch tone would have prompted him to try something up to date, carrier pigeon perhaps…..

  • 253 Bambams // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    @jimmysmith 249.
    Totally agree fella

  • 254 Toon-Prodigy // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:12 PM

    I don’t know why Mike just didn’t ask Joe to ring all his mint contacts and get in a 1st class structure who actually knows about football.. 5 years ago.

    I mean, there the best of pals..

    Hahahahaha.

  • 255 Ian Toon // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:19 PM

    By all accounts the pre-season tour to Portugal seems to have gone well in terms of preparation for the upcoming season. Fitness levels were told are extremely high as a result of long training sessions in the heat. Sunday’s game at Blackpool will be a good test on recovery and improving fitness levels. Also it will give us a chance to see Tom Ince at close quarters.

    I note that a number of posters are looking back at the season before last when we finished fifth, and looking to replicate the tactical plan we had to overcome oppositions. If only it were that simple as tactics and players get found out nothing stands still .

    Last season could not have been any different than our Europa securing season. We were plagued with injuries to key players and looked much of the time listless and quite frankly abysmal. Missing Tiote, Cabaye and HBA we played a long-ball game that bypassed and creativity our midfield did possess.

    Pardew did spend a lot of time meddling with tactics and playing players out of position which mainly just seemed to confuse many of the players. He became too obsessed with combating any threats posed by the opposition rather than create problems for them. We didnt play to our strengths often enough. We played like a team with
    an inferiority complex.

    You will note that i agree with much of bills- son comment for all that
    we got right in the 11/12 season on player employment and tactics we got sadly wrong last season.

    Going forward from recent comments to the media Pardew acknowledges that mistakes were made which goes a long way to getting things right. The arrival of a forward or two will help.

  • 256 Sazzer // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    Bambams
    JKFAX up!

  • 257 Sazzer // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:24 PM

    Joe Blog
    Yeah now we know there is a Deuce “Superfan” Bazza Gigolo.

  • 258 Sazzer // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:24 PM

    or at least a lovechild.

  • 259 Uncertain Toon // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:24 PM

    Jazzy,

    Yeah mate, and if he’d had “got someone over the line” we wouldn’t here the end of it, Pardew would be a bystander!

  • 260 Joe Blog // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:25 PM

    Ian Toon

    Oh.

  • 261 Sazzer // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:27 PM

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11677/8842456/friendly-news-christian-benteke-nets-hat-trick-as-aston-villa-crush-crewe-5-1

  • 262 Billythefish // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    Ben Arfa handed in transfer request, this club just keeps getting better.

  • 263 jimmysmith // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    I think Kinnear is in as as an attempt to get Carr and Pards on the same page as much as anything else. We seem to have a chief scout and a manager with a disconnect on how we should approach the game and the types of players we need, but if Pards thinks Bent is the way forward then God help us if he wins the day.

  • 264 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    @LaughingFooty: IMAGE: Nile Ranger has totally outdone himself this time. Take a look at his new tattoo spread across his face! >>> http://t.co/KwHlDkDGP3

    What a tw@

  • 265 toonarmydownsouth // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:43 PM

    Lol it’s all going on on tw@ter!
    @ITKMysteryAgent: Breaking: Man U have rejected Newcastle’s initital 15m bid for Hernandez. Negotiations ARE still ongoing. Player is keen. #nufc #mufc #itk

    I wish

  • 266 Andymax // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:43 PM

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-transfer-news-newcastle-close-2094222

  • 267 Uncertain Toon // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:44 PM

    Billy,

    Hope that’s a joke pal!

  • 268 Sazzer // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:44 PM

    Billythefish
    Source?

  • 269 HullMag6 // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    Billy source please?

  • 270 ToonDarnSarf // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:48 PM

    I do believe that we’ll sign someone but I’m getting fed up with Pardew saying we’ll have someone by this weekend or that weekend. I’ve no doubt that he’s being told this by JFK and/or others, so he must be getting pretty annoyed at relaying these statements that don’t turn out.

  • 271 Billythefish // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:51 PM

    Just had text of mate so don’t take as gospel, but he gets decent info. He was wrong on AC coming back. Hope he’s got this wrong.

  • 272 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    Hardly worth causing a stir then is it?

  • 273 Sazzer // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    I wouldn’t take his word for it on a Friday night.

  • 274 toonking // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    I can’t find anything on the internet about HBA the stories their seem to date back to the start of the year.

  • 275 Sazzer // Jul 26, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    If it is something in it Liverpool then Suarez is most likely heading over to Arsenal and a lot of money going our way.




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