If Only Newcastle Would Be A Bit More Ambitious


Newcastle have not been successful yet in the transfer market this summer, but after bringing in five good Frenchmen in January we didn’t expect to get too many new players through the door this summer, but we do need two good strikers brought in.

mike ashley smiling

Mike Ashley – can be too thrifty in the transfer market

But Newcastle are again playing the game of being miserly and too thrifty in the transfer market, and it seems that Newcastle will not bid any more than what owner Mike Ashley thinks a player is worth, and we’ve missed out on a number of players over the years because of that.

A good case of this thrift taken to an extreme was last summer, when we haggled for months over the fee for Mathieu Debuchy from Lille, and then in November we agreed a deal so that Debuchy could come in during the January window, and we bet that deal was much closer to what Lille were asking for in the summer.

And the season before the same thing happened with Turkish International Mevlut Erdinc who at the time was at PSG, and after months of negotiating we didn’t get him, because we wouldn’t pay the fee that PSG wanted.

And there was even news a couple of days ago Newcastle may be after him again this summer – and the 26 year-old striker is now at Rennes.

We are not against Newcastle trying to get some good deals in the market, not at all, and to be fair we’ve made some fantastic deals in the past on players like Cheick Tiote, Ben Arfa, Yohan Cabaye, Moussa Sissoko, Yoan Gouffran and others, and each one of those players is worth a lot more now than we signed them for – and that’s some very good business.

But you can also overdo the thrift part of it, and it’s been tedious these last two summers when Newcastle have tried to get their top transfer targets through the door, and have not been too successful.

But it’s not all bad news, the squad we have at the moment is very good, apart from being weak up front, where we basically have Papiss Cisse, Shola Ameobi and Yoan Gouffran, who is probably a better winger than a striker.

And if Newcastle can get both Loic Remy and Bafetimbi Gomis through the door this summer, we’ll have our strongest squad since the Bobby Robson days.

And it’s even better than the squad we put together two years ago when we brought in players like Demba Ba, Yohan Cabaye and Sylvain Marveaux, and subsequently finished 5th top of the Premier League.

Yoan and Sylvain are still here and both have improved as players since we signed them and since last summer we have the five Frenchmen we brought in during January.

So why wouldn’t Newcastle go all out to sign our two top targets Gomis and Remy in the next couple of weeks, and forget that we may have missed out on Darren Bent – the two Frenchmen are better players than Darren – and younger too.

If we can get Remy and Gomis through the door, we could have a very strong squad for next season – and could get back to challenging again for a top six place and maybe even a top four place, although that will be very difficult.

In short – in the overall scheme of things we are really not too badly off at all – because all we only need those two strikers – the rest of the squad is very strong and even has some depth to it.

We’d love to see Newcastle get those two French strikers into the fold, so that they can be ready for the start of the Premier League which starts for Newcastle two weeks on Monday night at Manchester City.

Let’s go for it.

What do you think?

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162 comments so far

  • Belfast

    Aug 1, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #1

    Anybody know what happened to Catchy ?
    Has he got a new name or what ? He just seemed to disappear lol

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  • Sir Braveheart

    Aug 1, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #2

    My concern is if we’re made to pay the 8m for Remy we wont even bother going for Gomis. If we get Remy on loan we’ll stick to our guns and not bid any more for Gomis.

    The true test is if we get to the last week of the window and we’ve got no one, will they offer more to get one of those two in?

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  • JaxtheMag

    Aug 1, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    Comment #3

    8mill for remy , cross another 1 of the list.

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  • DontSellKebab

    Aug 1, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    Comment #4

    It’s exactly that… “If only”!!

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  • DokToon

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    Comment #5

    belfast, if memory serves me, he was quite irate at the keeping of pards and said hed be back by the opener…

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  • jimmysmith

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    Comment #6

    What do birds say when they fly over Mikes house?

    “cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap”

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  • Belfast

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #7

    The five players signed in January should of been bought last summer. They had to panic buy In January because of the ferk up they made last summer.

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  • Belfast

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    Comment #8

    Doktoon

    Aye I just wondered where he went, haven’t seen him comment in a while. Thought I’d maybe missed his latest leaving speech lol

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  • sks_toon

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    Comment #9

    We also need a defender instead of Williamson really badly I don’t know why people are forgetting this, we need a defender as much as a striker especially with S Taylor always getting injured as well

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  • croftus5678

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    Comment #10

    we “will” pay 8mil for remy if it came to it !but we will not pay his 75k a week wage so i can see him going to the hammers tbh.

    theres no way we will get bent either as fulham are paying 6mil and we only value him at 4mil + he will not drop his 80k wage

    gomis has agreed personal terms though and can see his club folding on his value (which they should tbh as they want him off there books and he’s in the last year or his contract)

    to me gomis is the best option anyways as its cover for cisse when out and can also play alongside him! but i dont expect us getting another striker in after him ! tbh i cant see us signing anyone else after him.

    great news on st miran wanting cambell though as they do a great job with our youngsters.

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  • viv

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    Comment #11

    Rents joining big Sam

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  • Sir Braveheart

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    Comment #12

    This is what I dont get, we made an error last summer in not strengthening the squad, which cost us dearly. The club acknowledged we didnt get the bodies in we needed and made up for that in January. So why would we now make the same mistake this summer?

    Im confident we’ll get a striker in, I’m confident it’ll be before the season opener and I just hope it’s someone with the ability to replace Demba Ba’s goals.

    15 from Cisse, 15 from a new striker and we’ll do well.

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  • barkel

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #13

    QPR signed Charlie Austin so I assume there’ll be news one way or another on Remy very soon

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  • blew

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #14

    Harry has stated today there is no way
    Remy will be loaned out.
    I feel we will be lucky to get one player
    and one only. IMO Ashley sees the 5
    acquired in January as ample to bring in
    for a year.
    Despite not having a competent defence
    which is lacking in height, shortage of strikers
    and a playmaker, Ashley is obviously not
    totally committed to the cause, he feels he has
    bought enough for this year.

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  • DokToon

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    Comment #15

    belfast,

    lots of frustration all around i think at the handing of our club that drives one mad… or drives one to drink really…

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  • jimmysmith

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #16

    How does the team shape up if we sign only Gomis. 442 with Gutierrez tucked in again. I honestly don’t think I could take it. We need a Frank Ribery or Arjen Robben type winger if we sign Gomis. Pace, work rate, delivery and goals and they’re harder to come by than genuine central strikers. Gomis on his own Isnt solving anything as far as I can tell.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #17

    blew – despite what Dirty Harry says -there is no way anybody can get Remys’ services other than a well worded loan deal. (Bearing in mind he has world cup aspirations and needs to be in the PL to show his form). The problem is that if we get him and he is charged and goes to jail -we still have a vacant striker spot – that is where I thought Bent could play a part.- as back up.

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  • Sir Braveheart

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #18

    Harry can say what he likes about a loan but the reality is it’s probably all he’s likely to get.

    If Remy is found guilty of rape whatever club he’s with will have to fire him. No club would spent millions on a player who they may have to release a month or so later.

    The loan gets Remy off the wage bill, and it means if they manage to get back into the premier league next season then they’ve got a star striker coming back. It suits QPR, it suits Remys chances with France in an important international year.

    I’m guessing they’ll deny the chance of a loan until the 11th hour. Remy will go out on deadline day Im betting.

    What about Samba? Wonder if he’d be available and would we want him? Looked slow and out of place at QPR at times, but maybe thats what playing next to Bosingwa does to you?

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  • croftus5678

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #19

    @11 sir

    the logical reason will be that in jan they can talk to the players who’s contracts are ending that season so they either get really cheap bargains or freebies i.e. sissoko/goofy ect ect.

    this time of year teams (sensibly) want new players in to gel ect for a new season but i tend to think we do our “shopping” in jan because its cheaper !

    can look at it 2 ways really we either get players 6 month’s earlier than normal so they can gel or we get them 6 month’s too late ! personally i dont think we are on the ball enough for the former.

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  • Belfast

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #20

    They’d probably use the same excuse if they signed those players last summer tbh

    Oh we signed 5 last summer so we don’t need any players this summer lol

    Wouldn’t put it past them

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  • geordiemark

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #21

    ashley ambition doesnt mix he has none well for the toon he doesnt that is well documented by transfer windows like now and of old ones

    remy is a problem I reckon because if hes found guilty then its jail for him loan is best solution really, I wouldnt take much notice of what floppy chops at qpr is saying its down to the owner what happens and yep we do need another defender as well

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  • Dannyo

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    Comment #22

    @blew
    The quote is not from today, it’s several weeks old.

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  • Geordie1

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    Comment #23

    M.A. is as tight as knats arse we missed out on signing PIP because Ashley would not pay the going rate for a striker with his pedigree now we are left to scrape the barrel for players nobody else wants’. You are right ED when you thought that we would not be doing much business this Summer due to the panic buying in January however we have got rid of 5 players so far this summer and not replaced them strength and depth your having a larf. It has been wildly publicised that we are in need of a striker or two yet the tight fisted scroat will not pay the going rate he is treating the TOON and its supporters with the upmost contempt that had this been in a far eastern country he would of been stoned.

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  • remy D

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    Comment #24

    Who cares man clubs gone to shit.i for one have had it being mugd off by these pricks finished with this club till the three mugs are long gone

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  • G

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    Comment #25

    @17, Samba has re-signed for the club that QPR bought him off in Russia hasn’t he?

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  • toon kk

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #26

    I really really can’t understand MA and the tight arsed running of our club, what a joke. No one is expecting to splash out silly money but if MA won’t pay around the 10 mil area now it may cost him much more in the future. Everyone knows we desperately need a couple of striker’s.
    We will end up with a couple of kids in after all we don’t want Mike going bankrupt, things are very tight just like his a hole.

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  • woolerbill

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #27

    Problem
    We have a manager who can’t coach a attacking team, so there is no point in getting forward. We will still be playing, let’s just try and keep a point. We need to defend better and the way to do that, is to attack.

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  • reccerobbo

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    Comment #28

    @sir braveheart
    Samba has been sold back to the Russian club he came from

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  • JaxtheMag

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #29

    samba has left qpr, he went back to Russia.

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  • Rowan Milsted

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    Comment #30

    I think floppy chops is trying to play hardball but has no leverage here whatsoever. Realistically a loan is all he’ll get for Remy and we’re (hopefully) one of the better clubs going after him. He’ll want to stay in the EPL and he knows he’ll get game time as we’re so short on strikers.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if something materialised with Gomis; again I think it’s a case of a manager/owner playing hardball with no leverage. the fee they’re asking is too high and Gomis has made his position quite clear. No manager would want a player in the team who had made his desire to leave so clear and forthright.

    I think we’re actually in a good position in both these deals – Gomis to sign, Remy on loan. However, this is NUFC and Kinnear we’re talking about, so I’d also expect nothing to happen at all. As Croftus says, we like to buy players in Jan (if at all) and as Belfast point out MA may reason that the 5 he bought in Jan are sufficient to take us though til the new year.

    With NUFC you just never know… Hopefully Pardew will force the issue that we’re desperate for strikers and it’s already getting late.

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  • Roy Morten

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #31

    Those who say we don’t have to worry because its 1 more month of the the transfer window must have knocked their head or something. Signing players late happens in the january transfer window. Buying players early in the summer is to get pre season games. If we buy players now then they will need to play 6 months to get used to league(team). Risly to do that when your fighting for points and not just a friendly game.. Sick of having MA as owner.

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  • KensingToon

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #32

    The problem with Remy is this rape case, it will then involve people like Kinnear having to go on and meet with the lawyers, who will give an assesment of a conviction likelihood – not only QPR and the agent to decide if a loan deal or a permanent transfer is the best option (loan for rape, permo for not). As Kinnear is obviously a slow worker, he’s probably scheduled this meeting in for tea time the day the transfer window shuts.

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  • Sir Braveheart

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    Comment #34

    Didnt realise Samba had moved on, cheers for the update

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  • Tubai

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    Comment #35

    I wonder what Mike Ashley would do with all the revenues he will get this season with the new T.V deal sponsorship. A bit more genorosity in the transfer market would be appreciated at least two more strikers. Just can’t fathom does Ashley really want us to compete for a top four finish. The way he is haggling over transfer fees only justifies the notion. I think its high time we fans raise our voice. We deserve something like the Mancity fans have got. Probably we deserve more with the amount of passionate supporters we have.

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  • croftus5678

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    Comment #36

    @32 roshan

    theres no substance in anything that has “set to” in its title imo as they would just accept it !
    personally i think this will happen but i dont believe it has happened as of yet.

    and on remy west ham are in for him so they do have someting to bargain with ! and the fact they will pay higher wages.

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  • ~Joke-innear~

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    Comment #37

    If Ashley has no intention of bringing in anyone this season he should just come out and say so.

    Not appointment some fat turd with barely an iota of talent as a manager nor half a brain cell as our DoF. Either way we would be pi$$ed, but at least we would know the truth… would much rather that, then having to endure this pathetic game of ‘pretend’, where this useless t!t pi$$es about all day and only makes a joke of the club, by not only getting our players names wrong, but by tabling offers that could only be described as pathetic to bottom of the barrel players who are either a judge ruling away from jail time, or passed their prime.

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  • Bearsize

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:35 PM

    Comment #38

    Gomis and remy will do. Shola in the reserves as he is poo!

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  • croftus5678

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    Comment #39

    i might put a bet on us to sign gomis and only gomis this window then in jan signing 3 or so players ! wonder what odd’s i’d get ?

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  • DokToon

    Aug 1, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    Comment #40

    ed, thanks for the email regarding viv.. much appreciated sir…

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