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If Only Newcastle Would Be A Bit More Ambitious

3:52 pm, Thursday, August 1st, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 162 Comments

Newcastle have not been successful yet in the transfer market this summer, but after bringing in five good Frenchmen in January we didn’t expect to get too many new players through the door this summer, but we do need two good strikers brought in.

mike ashley smiling

Mike Ashley - can be too thrifty in the transfer market

But Newcastle are again playing the game of being miserly and too thrifty in the transfer market, and it seems that Newcastle will not bid any more than what owner Mike Ashley thinks a player is worth, and we’ve missed out on a number of players over the years because of that.

A good case of this thrift taken to an extreme was last summer, when we haggled for months over the fee for Mathieu Debuchy from Lille, and then in November we agreed a deal so that Debuchy could come in during the January window, and we bet that deal was much closer to what Lille were asking for in the summer.

And the season before the same thing happened with Turkish International Mevlut Erdinc who at the time was at PSG, and after months of negotiating we didn’t get him, because we wouldn’t pay the fee that PSG wanted.

And there was even news a couple of days ago Newcastle may be after him again this summer – and the 26 year-old striker is now at Rennes.

We are not against Newcastle trying to get some good deals in the market, not at all, and to be fair we’ve made some fantastic deals in the past on players like Cheick Tiote, Ben Arfa, Yohan Cabaye, Moussa Sissoko, Yoan Gouffran and others, and each one of those players is worth a lot more now than we signed them for – and that’s some very good business.

But you can also overdo the thrift part of it, and it’s been tedious these last two summers when Newcastle have tried to get their top transfer targets through the door, and have not been too successful.

But it’s not all bad news, the squad we have at the moment is very good, apart from being weak up front, where we basically have Papiss Cisse, Shola Ameobi and Yoan Gouffran, who is probably a better winger than a striker.

And if Newcastle can get both Loic Remy and Bafetimbi Gomis through the door this summer, we’ll have our strongest squad since the Bobby Robson days.

And it’s even better than the squad we put together two years ago when we brought in players like Demba Ba, Yohan Cabaye and Sylvain Marveaux, and subsequently finished 5th top of the Premier League.

Yoan and Sylvain are still here and both have improved as players since we signed them and since last summer we have the five Frenchmen we brought in during January.

So why wouldn’t Newcastle go all out to sign our two top targets Gomis and Remy in the next couple of weeks, and forget that we may have missed out on Darren Bent – the two Frenchmen are better players than Darren – and younger too.

If we can get Remy and Gomis through the door, we could have a very strong squad for next season – and could get back to challenging again for a top six place and maybe even a top four place, although that will be very difficult.

In short – in the overall scheme of things we are really not too badly off at all – because all we only need those two strikers – the rest of the squad is very strong and even has some depth to it.

We’d love to see Newcastle get those two French strikers into the fold, so that they can be ready for the start of the Premier League which starts for Newcastle two weeks on Monday night at Manchester City.

Let’s go for it.

What do you think?

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162 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Belfast // Aug 1, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    Anybody know what happened to Catchy ?
    Has he got a new name or what ? He just seemed to disappear lol

  • 2 Sir Braveheart // Aug 1, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    My concern is if we’re made to pay the 8m for Remy we wont even bother going for Gomis. If we get Remy on loan we’ll stick to our guns and not bid any more for Gomis.

    The true test is if we get to the last week of the window and we’ve got no one, will they offer more to get one of those two in?

  • 3 JaxtheMag // Aug 1, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    8mill for remy , cross another 1 of the list.

  • 4 DontSellKebab // Aug 1, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    It’s exactly that… “If only”!!

  • 5 DokToon // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    belfast, if memory serves me, he was quite irate at the keeping of pards and said hed be back by the opener…

  • 6 jimmysmith // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    What do birds say when they fly over Mikes house?

    “cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap”

  • 7 Belfast // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    The five players signed in January should of been bought last summer. They had to panic buy In January because of the ferk up they made last summer.

  • 8 Belfast // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:04 PM

    Doktoon

    Aye I just wondered where he went, haven’t seen him comment in a while. Thought I’d maybe missed his latest leaving speech lol

  • 9 sks_toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    We also need a defender instead of Williamson really badly I don’t know why people are forgetting this, we need a defender as much as a striker especially with S Taylor always getting injured as well

  • 10 croftus5678 // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    we “will” pay 8mil for remy if it came to it !but we will not pay his 75k a week wage so i can see him going to the hammers tbh.

    theres no way we will get bent either as fulham are paying 6mil and we only value him at 4mil + he will not drop his 80k wage

    gomis has agreed personal terms though and can see his club folding on his value (which they should tbh as they want him off there books and he’s in the last year or his contract)

    to me gomis is the best option anyways as its cover for cisse when out and can also play alongside him! but i dont expect us getting another striker in after him ! tbh i cant see us signing anyone else after him.

    great news on st miran wanting cambell though as they do a great job with our youngsters.

  • 11 viv // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    Rents joining big Sam

  • 12 Sir Braveheart // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    This is what I dont get, we made an error last summer in not strengthening the squad, which cost us dearly. The club acknowledged we didnt get the bodies in we needed and made up for that in January. So why would we now make the same mistake this summer?

    Im confident we’ll get a striker in, I’m confident it’ll be before the season opener and I just hope it’s someone with the ability to replace Demba Ba’s goals.

    15 from Cisse, 15 from a new striker and we’ll do well.

  • 13 barkel // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    QPR signed Charlie Austin so I assume there’ll be news one way or another on Remy very soon

  • 14 blew // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    Harry has stated today there is no way
    Remy will be loaned out.
    I feel we will be lucky to get one player
    and one only. IMO Ashley sees the 5
    acquired in January as ample to bring in
    for a year.
    Despite not having a competent defence
    which is lacking in height, shortage of strikers
    and a playmaker, Ashley is obviously not
    totally committed to the cause, he feels he has
    bought enough for this year.

  • 15 DokToon // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    belfast,

    lots of frustration all around i think at the handing of our club that drives one mad… or drives one to drink really…

  • 16 jimmysmith // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    How does the team shape up if we sign only Gomis. 442 with Gutierrez tucked in again. I honestly don’t think I could take it. We need a Frank Ribery or Arjen Robben type winger if we sign Gomis. Pace, work rate, delivery and goals and they’re harder to come by than genuine central strikers. Gomis on his own Isnt solving anything as far as I can tell.

  • 17 Mister Tuff // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    blew – despite what Dirty Harry says -there is no way anybody can get Remys’ services other than a well worded loan deal. (Bearing in mind he has world cup aspirations and needs to be in the PL to show his form). The problem is that if we get him and he is charged and goes to jail -we still have a vacant striker spot – that is where I thought Bent could play a part.- as back up.

  • 18 Sir Braveheart // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    Harry can say what he likes about a loan but the reality is it’s probably all he’s likely to get.

    If Remy is found guilty of rape whatever club he’s with will have to fire him. No club would spent millions on a player who they may have to release a month or so later.

    The loan gets Remy off the wage bill, and it means if they manage to get back into the premier league next season then they’ve got a star striker coming back. It suits QPR, it suits Remys chances with France in an important international year.

    I’m guessing they’ll deny the chance of a loan until the 11th hour. Remy will go out on deadline day Im betting.

    What about Samba? Wonder if he’d be available and would we want him? Looked slow and out of place at QPR at times, but maybe thats what playing next to Bosingwa does to you?

  • 19 croftus5678 // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    @11 sir

    the logical reason will be that in jan they can talk to the players who’s contracts are ending that season so they either get really cheap bargains or freebies i.e. sissoko/goofy ect ect.

    this time of year teams (sensibly) want new players in to gel ect for a new season but i tend to think we do our “shopping” in jan because its cheaper !

    can look at it 2 ways really we either get players 6 month’s earlier than normal so they can gel or we get them 6 month’s too late ! personally i dont think we are on the ball enough for the former.

  • 20 Belfast // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    They’d probably use the same excuse if they signed those players last summer tbh

    Oh we signed 5 last summer so we don’t need any players this summer lol

    Wouldn’t put it past them

  • 21 geordiemark // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    ashley ambition doesnt mix he has none well for the toon he doesnt that is well documented by transfer windows like now and of old ones

    remy is a problem I reckon because if hes found guilty then its jail for him loan is best solution really, I wouldnt take much notice of what floppy chops at qpr is saying its down to the owner what happens and yep we do need another defender as well

  • 22 Dannyo // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    @blew
    The quote is not from today, it’s several weeks old.

  • 23 Geordie1 // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    M.A. is as tight as knats arse we missed out on signing PIP because Ashley would not pay the going rate for a striker with his pedigree now we are left to scrape the barrel for players nobody else wants’. You are right ED when you thought that we would not be doing much business this Summer due to the panic buying in January however we have got rid of 5 players so far this summer and not replaced them strength and depth your having a larf. It has been wildly publicised that we are in need of a striker or two yet the tight fisted scroat will not pay the going rate he is treating the TOON and its supporters with the upmost contempt that had this been in a far eastern country he would of been stoned.

  • 24 remy D // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    Who cares man clubs gone to shit.i for one have had it being mugd off by these pricks finished with this club till the three mugs are long gone

  • 25 G // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    @17, Samba has re-signed for the club that QPR bought him off in Russia hasn’t he?

  • 26 toon kk // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    I really really can’t understand MA and the tight arsed running of our club, what a joke. No one is expecting to splash out silly money but if MA won’t pay around the 10 mil area now it may cost him much more in the future. Everyone knows we desperately need a couple of striker’s.
    We will end up with a couple of kids in after all we don’t want Mike going bankrupt, things are very tight just like his a hole.

  • 27 woolerbill // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    Problem
    We have a manager who can’t coach a attacking team, so there is no point in getting forward. We will still be playing, let’s just try and keep a point. We need to defend better and the way to do that, is to attack.

  • 28 reccerobbo // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    @sir braveheart
    Samba has been sold back to the Russian club he came from

  • 29 JaxtheMag // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    samba has left qpr, he went back to Russia.

  • 30 Rowan Milsted // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    I think floppy chops is trying to play hardball but has no leverage here whatsoever. Realistically a loan is all he’ll get for Remy and we’re (hopefully) one of the better clubs going after him. He’ll want to stay in the EPL and he knows he’ll get game time as we’re so short on strikers.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if something materialised with Gomis; again I think it’s a case of a manager/owner playing hardball with no leverage. the fee they’re asking is too high and Gomis has made his position quite clear. No manager would want a player in the team who had made his desire to leave so clear and forthright.

    I think we’re actually in a good position in both these deals – Gomis to sign, Remy on loan. However, this is NUFC and Kinnear we’re talking about, so I’d also expect nothing to happen at all. As Croftus says, we like to buy players in Jan (if at all) and as Belfast point out MA may reason that the 5 he bought in Jan are sufficient to take us though til the new year.

    With NUFC you just never know… Hopefully Pardew will force the issue that we’re desperate for strikers and it’s already getting late.

  • 31 Roy Morten // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Those who say we don’t have to worry because its 1 more month of the the transfer window must have knocked their head or something. Signing players late happens in the january transfer window. Buying players early in the summer is to get pre season games. If we buy players now then they will need to play 6 months to get used to league(team). Risly to do that when your fighting for points and not just a friendly game.. Sick of having MA as owner.

  • 32 KensingToon // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    The problem with Remy is this rape case, it will then involve people like Kinnear having to go on and meet with the lawyers, who will give an assesment of a conviction likelihood – not only QPR and the agent to decide if a loan deal or a permanent transfer is the best option (loan for rape, permo for not). As Kinnear is obviously a slow worker, he’s probably scheduled this meeting in for tea time the day the transfer window shuts.

  • 33 ROSHAN MAGPIE // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    http://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/08/01/lyon-set-to-accept-newcastle-united-bid-for-forward-bafetimbi-gomis/
    so now what

  • 34 Sir Braveheart // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    Didnt realise Samba had moved on, cheers for the update

  • 35 Tubai // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    I wonder what Mike Ashley would do with all the revenues he will get this season with the new T.V deal sponsorship. A bit more genorosity in the transfer market would be appreciated at least two more strikers. Just can’t fathom does Ashley really want us to compete for a top four finish. The way he is haggling over transfer fees only justifies the notion. I think its high time we fans raise our voice. We deserve something like the Mancity fans have got. Probably we deserve more with the amount of passionate supporters we have.

  • 36 croftus5678 // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    @32 roshan

    theres no substance in anything that has “set to” in its title imo as they would just accept it !
    personally i think this will happen but i dont believe it has happened as of yet.

    and on remy west ham are in for him so they do have someting to bargain with ! and the fact they will pay higher wages.

  • 37 ~Joke-innear~ // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    If Ashley has no intention of bringing in anyone this season he should just come out and say so.

    Not appointment some fat turd with barely an iota of talent as a manager nor half a brain cell as our DoF. Either way we would be pi$$ed, but at least we would know the truth… would much rather that, then having to endure this pathetic game of ‘pretend’, where this useless t!t pi$$es about all day and only makes a joke of the club, by not only getting our players names wrong, but by tabling offers that could only be described as pathetic to bottom of the barrel players who are either a judge ruling away from jail time, or passed their prime.

  • 38 Bearsize // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:35 PM

    Gomis and remy will do. Shola in the reserves as he is poo!

  • 39 croftus5678 // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    i might put a bet on us to sign gomis and only gomis this window then in jan signing 3 or so players ! wonder what odd’s i’d get ?

  • 40 DokToon // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    ed, thanks for the email regarding viv.. much appreciated sir…

  • 41 Rowan Milsted // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    Roshan

    Caughtoffside and The Mail are hardly the most reliable of sources but the article sounds valid enough and, as I just stated, I expected this to happen (kinda). If personal terms really have already been agreed the I guess we get him over the infamous line and concentrate on getting Remy on loan. According to many on the blog he could make a good partner for Cisse and will add some muscle to our attck. We still need some pace methinks…

  • 42 ~Joke-innear~ // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    We won’t bring in anyone. Not with a man that literally defines the word ‘useless’ as our DoF.

  • 43 Rowan Milsted // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    Gomis, that is

  • 44 Bryan // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    Why is everyone saying we only need strikers this window, AP included. Has everyone forgotten last season we conceded the most goals since we have been in the PL, won the least amount of games away from home in our time in the PL and finished 5th bottom for gods sake. This wasn’t down to a lack of goals in the team, it was because of our terrible defensive duties as a team (+ AP brainwave team selections and tactics, or lack of them). If we do not strengthen our defence as well as our attack we will be in big trouble next season. Joke’s handling of our transfer dealings this summer have just proved what every NUFC fan thought about him when he arrived, that he is out of touch with todays football along with our illustrious owner. Get ready for a very long season friends.

  • 45 DokToon // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    i agree defense is needed, but wouldnt an actual attacking offense help to alleviate the pressure of the defense?

    plus it would help if, when we score, we dotn turtle up either….

  • 46 Mister Tuff // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    KensingToon – if you do not mind me saying and no offence intended but you are talking a load of tosh about JK meeting with lawyers etc.
    1. upon his responding to bail in September the CPS will hopefully have made a decision as to whether he is charged or not. (Only lawyers from the CPS are involved -no other lawyers even defence lawyers can access the case papers at this stage).
    2. If he is charged and the defence lawyers then get the case papers through the Disclosure procedures – no defence lawyer is going to hazard a guess as to what his chances are, lawyers for NUFC will have no legal rights to access the case papers. It would be a foolish lawyer to predict the outcome of a case – that responsibility is for the judge and jury.

  • 47 ~Joke-innear~ // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    JFK makes Dennis Wise look like a world class DoF.

  • 48 Rooster // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    Day 32, we are still diggin our heels in, its dog eat dog, as usual with pur bogger signings its going down to the wire, sometimes we get them, sometimes, we wait till the winter window, sometimes we get gazumped, we have something like 16 days to get players in b4 the start of the season, its yet another gamble, its a very risky one after last seasons summer efforts, thing is if MA was in the shoes of the people hes dealing with concerning signings he would be no doubt, pkay the same hardball, compromises have to be reached and reached asap, as for JK his diplomacy skills may have to be thought out a bit more, agents will push as much as they can, if JK gets his back up and tells them were to get off, no one will be signed, we need players in NOW!

  • 49 John Tudor // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    betty says and i quote “if i have to deal with joe the deals is off”

  • 50 croftus5678 // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    @44 bryan

    we talk about a striker as we have no chance our team will sign a second player in the form of a defender lol.

    our priority’s are striker them winger then cb.

    cambell if he goes to st miran and gets playing time will hopefully be ready by next season (fingers crossed) so maybe we dont need 2 strikers ! and samyobi is pretty much our only winger imo (on the left side anyways) not that impressed with fergies development tbh.

  • 51 magicbus // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Without extra fire power up front we are fighting relegation again I dont care how good a midfield or defence we have end of

  • 52 ENNYOUEFFSEE // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    We definately need cover at right back with the loss of Simpson. Centre half Williamson not good enough. Left back were covered. The main priority and rightly so is the center forward position.

  • 53 Rowan Milsted // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Bryan

    I totally agree that we need a CB. We also need 1, if not 2 wingers in my opinion. I think most people have resigned themselves to the fact that we won’t sign more than 1 or 2 strikers (which we’re in desperate need of) so talking about CBs and wingers is kinda pointless. I think the only time we’ll make multiple signings is in January if we’re up a proverbial creek. I do agree with you, though.

  • 54 KensingToon // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    MisterTuff

    Not at all, i didn’t mean to say that he will be meeting CPS or looking over any case papers whatsoever, however they will have some vague idea of whether their client committed any crime of any kind of which they will give an indication to the player and therefore by proxy his agent. It was a bit of an exeggeration so say that JK will be meeting lawyers, but it is not outside the realms of possibility by any stretch knowing a) how lawyer/agent/player/club relationships in football have worked in the past including the Redknapp case and the John Terry case.

    This is not just some average bloke off the street asking the Crown Prosection Service what their plans are, we’re talking about the machine of football and it’s usual filandering with the laws of this country through the medium of defense lawyers who are extremely well paid and usually comfotrably tucked up with the agents.

    Essentially, if Remy did do it NUFC will make it their business to know before he even gets anywhere near a trial, and signing him on loan would be a viable option then because they take the gamble that his lawyers will win the case. If he did not do it, then they have a greater likelihood that he will win and would be more comfortable sigining a permanent deal.

  • 55 Rowan Milsted // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    Also swisstone made a very good point a few days ago that if we get a CF who can hold up the ball and change our style of play (such as it is) it will take pressure off our defence as we will be able to keep possession of the ball and we should subsequently concede fewer goals.

  • 56 ~Joke-innear~ // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    Ennyoueffsee

    RB- Debuchy, Santon, Tavernier, Anita, Saylor and god forbid Gutti.

    LB – Santon, Haidara, Mbiwa, Dummett, Gutti =.=

  • 57 ~Joke-innear~ // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    oh and Ferguson can be recalled for LB

  • 58 croftus5678 // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    @52 enny

    we have deb’s/santon/raylor for rb then theres anita/tav who can also play there.

  • 59 ~Joke-innear~ // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    Oh yeah… we still have Ryan Taylor… he can play at LB and RB… forgot about him… how long till his injury is expected to clear up?

  • 60 JAMSHA // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    shola can play cb aswell

  • 61 toon kk // Aug 1, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    Imo most people are eblivious to the fact our squad needs strengthening in every area, especially up front but if we get two striker’s in it will make a big difference.
    Trouble is Mashley and his new side kick like the hard ball tactic. Pardew knows we need players in but he would be sacked if he didn’t agree with them. Then he gets the job of explaining we can manage without new signings knowing we need them. (Yes man)!

  • 62 Novocastrian66 // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    Our transfer business is a complete joke. It’s the only area that the club has any credibility and we are failing miserably.

  • 63 hadthetshirt // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    Just give harry the spiv a brown envelope,making sure it’s made out to his dog.Sorted
    How I detest that man

  • 64 John Tudor // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    and who is to blame
    i wonder

  • 65 89Norcal // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    So officially August and no new players yet.

    Unfortunately I think I have to concede the fact that last January was a fluke (and an insurance policy) and MA really hasn’t learned; nor does he wish to learn.

    But a loan move for Remy seems very smart.

  • 66 geordiemark // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    well pardew should grow a pair of balls and give big mike the ayatollah it straight but we wont see nowt like that the gutless git

  • 67 Jackel001 // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    Sissoko just tweeted to gomis welcoming him to Newcastle?

  • 68 geordiemark // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    hadthetshirt

    excellent am still sure the tax office is investigating him like hes as currupt as any mps are :)

  • 69 colwell // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    Get French Football ?@GFN_France 2m
    Moussa Sissoko has told Bafetimbi Gomis via Twitter he is welcome at Newcastle. #NUFC #OL
    Expand

  • 70 geordiemark // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    Jackel001

    ill believe it when i see him in his toon top

  • 71 daztoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    Anything to do with spending money takes an age but when its money coming we are quick to do business it seems.

  • 72 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    Sissoko has just started following Gomis on Twitter. So he’s coming considering the only other people he is following are all NUFC players.

  • 73 89Norcal // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    MA in that pic: “Oh so THESE are what everyone keeps telling to open!”

  • 74 Mister Tuff // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    KensingToon – thanks for the reply. The point about this whole affair is that we think that the bail response date is AFTER the transfer window closes. If he is charged then the papers can be accessed – but its too late as the window has closed 2.9.13. I have no doubt that Remy will be saying “not me gov”. So nobody in the world, not even God knows the outcome. So anybody wanting to do business will have to decide before the window closes. It may be that Dirty Harry wants to keep him -or that Remy wants PL games – is the fabled release clause true. It would seem like an initial loan deal is the only viable option.

  • 75 IITianToon // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    Un grand soutien à mon frère @BafGomis pour cette période difficile accroche toi !!! Tu est le bienvenu à Newcastle

    Accurate translation required.. Niafron where are you!
    Is it:
    1. You are welcome at Newcastle.
    2. Welcome to Newcastle

    If 1 then nothing new, if 2, then we are talking!

  • 76 hadthetshirt // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    It’s like having the chuckle brother’s in charge.”To me to you”
    come to think of it there’s a resemblance with jfk and pardew
    “to you to me”

  • 77 paul24 // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    @ toon kk

    The funny thing is they keep trying the hard ball tactic and other clubs keep telling them to f**k off. A monkey would have realised there was pattern by now.

  • 78 John Tudor // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    the chuckles incorporating their lobotomies

  • 79 gus3232 // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    waited all day for that club 92 thing on sky sports to go to newcastle,thinking their would be good transfer news but they just unveiled new home kit

  • 80 cyprus // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    Good points as usual Ed. Only I’m not sure I agree on Gouffran being a better winger than a striker. It would be nice to have a couple REAL wingers, playing in their position, rather than playing Gouffran, Ba, Cisse in such positions.

    A big club like NUFC should have at least a couple of good wingers, don’t you think? And a couple more forwards, yes.

  • 81 viv // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    Loads of activity @Benton.

  • 82 toon kk // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    Paul24
    Exactly.
    Just watched 92 live on sky sports most clubs talking about new signings. Newcastle talked to players about how they liked the new Wonga strip.

  • 83 The Arizona Geordie Pizzicato // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    Direct Google Translate:

    “Great support to my brother @ BafGomis for this difficult time you hang! You are welcome to Newcastle”

  • 84 HullMag6 // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    I take it viv crossed the line then. Oh for some positive squad news.

    Have we had yet – “Since Faye’s joined us its like we got a completely new and fresh squad” lol :-D

  • 85 viv // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    Hull the X5 cruises well over the dotted line.

  • 86 cyprus // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:28 PM

    Welcome Gomis!?

  • 87 Wayayman // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    Man, i wish they’d hurry up and sign someone. Geordie work-rate has gone through the floor since the transfer window opened!

    I didn’t (and still don’t) rate Gomis last time we were after him but now I’d just welcome almost anyone. Time might not be running out for the window, but it’s vital that any new blood gets training time with his new team, especially if they need to up their fitness/sharpness as Remy & Gomis havn’t been getting any game time in pre season friendlies.

  • 88 HullMag6 // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:32 PM

    Now boys (& girls- I believe there may be some on the blog) remember its hot out there keep it cool keep it calm and we’ll all be happy campers.

    Omg did I just read Socks let slip Gomis is virtually a done deal or as good as? – awaiting shirt shot then.

    Is the leviathan about to spring into life?

  • 89 The Arizona Geordie Pizzicato // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    Now you guys know why JFK is part of the Bent negotiation – We don’t want Bent.

  • 90 The Arizona Geordie Pizzicato // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    and we need some sounding news to cover what we are actually doing.

  • 91 ~Joke-innear~ // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    So… Gomis isnt’t coming. There has been a mix up in translation and JFK has been after some lad called Gomez.

  • 92 JAMSHA // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/football-manager-2013-manager-stories/284069d1353519386-newcastles-eight-year-plan-28hevsy.png

    our 3rd kit?????? would love it…. looks sexy an best..

  • 93 DokToon // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    the x5 cruises over any line as you bring it around for a good washing…

  • 94 ~Joke-innear~ // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    Get French Football ?@GFN_France 42s
    Agreement regarding wages for Remy have not been agreed between Newcastle and QPR: http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2013/loic-remy-talks-enter-final-stage/#.UfqQqUKIFUI.twitter … #NUFC #QPR
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  • 95 viv // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    Aye OK shammy but your area is a rough hole it might get car jacked

  • 96 ~Joke-innear~ // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    Get French Football ?@GFN_France 2m
    West Ham United have contacted QPR for Loic Remy: http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2013/loic-remy-talks-enter-final-stage/#.UfqQqUKIFUI.twitter … #QPR #WHUFC #NUFC
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  • 97 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    What a cheesy cheesy way to unveil your new home kit
    Or is that just me that thought that

  • 98 ~Joke-innear~ // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    NUFCnewsnow.com ?@NUFCnewsnow 1m
    Newcastle and QPR have entered into the final stage of negotiations for the season long loan of Loic Remy. (@GFN_France) #NUFC

  • 99 naptoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    is pawl on

  • 100 viv // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    Doktoon its getting a oil service @ Stratstones silver link on the 15th come down and get your photo took with it.

  • 101 Offkey // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    When did Michael Richardson join Accrington Stanley on a months loan

  • 102 Offkey // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:55 PM

    Ok, it was today

  • 103 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    So west ham are jacking the remy ” move”
    There probably doing something dirty and underhanded like paying his asking price and wages
    Grrrrrrrrrrr it’s okay we’ll all just say good didn’t want him anyway!

  • 104 The Arizona Geordie Pizzicato // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    ~Joke-innear~

    That’s Mario Brothers Gomez?

  • 105 toon kk // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    Harry said he wanted to sell Remy not loan him out. MA wanted him on loan and QPR pay half of his wages, so talks have stalled.

  • 106 investinyouthtoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    A proven striker should have been bought to replace Ba who left some 8 months ago, and we miss out on strikers such as Gameiro (who went for less than 9m to Sevilla), Bony, Ricky van Wolfswinkel….

    At this rate, we’ll end up with Carlton Cole and Heskey

    Also a earlier note, I think I would be more comfortable with a wide man such as Dušan Tadi?, Ola John or Scott Sinclair

  • 107 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    Be know good trying to get Kinnear to negotiate for Remy after mistaking Darren Bent for David Brent bound to get his mucking words Fuddled by calling him Remy Martin

  • 108 magpie6699 // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    Harry Redknapp says no loan deal. I think we’d be stupid to pay £8 million for someone who could be in jail. Maybe Remy’s got Harry’s lawyer on the case?

  • 109 kevymartins // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    We should be going after players like mariodinho from the corinthians, aww being a nufc sucks somethimes/most times/all times.

  • 110 JAMSHA // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    he wont go to west ham

  • 111 magpie6699 // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    invest….Sorry to disappoint you but I think Carlton Cole joined a club the other week.

  • 112 DokToon // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    whyd i want a picture with a pimpmobile? unlike you, ive never seen the inside of a cell, …

  • 113 PennStateToon // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    Could we maybe start up a fan based transfer fund? Get so many people to invest and then we’ll invest that money and hopefully get a decent return and we could have enough money for a striker in about 20 years?

  • 114 viv // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    I thought you were on death row Dok

  • 115 naptoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    Anyway pawl a response to your earlier post.
    I posted FACTS.
    I despicable and proven and the 4th person released was Inman … Granted prob not good enuff for us but never the less …
    Perch for me was a good squad player and I think we will miss his versatility this year.
    You speculate that we would have been relegated under last regime but that’s all it is … Speculation.
    I don’t have blind hatred for ash I look at the facts available and form an opinion based on those facts and my opinion can change … I was praising Ashley during the winter window.
    The difference is pro Ashley supporters/fans … And we all are shout about facts and how he saved the club etc and ignore the bad times we are suffering under him … Somebody posted earlier that Ashley is running the club like a short term firefighter … I agree with that sentiment all we anti ash or non pro ash are asking for is for you’s to stop ramming down our throat how great he is and times are … Cos he ain’t and they’re not.

  • 116 naptoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:07 PM

    Indisputable

  • 117 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    Best thing newcastle could do right now with this talented squad is terminate Pardews contract by mutual consent, pay him off a couple million pounds, rather than him bein compensated 10million for unfairly dismissal. Bring in a good manager, and newcastle can be top 5 again.

    Like Ed says, if only newcastle would be bit more ambitious!

  • 118 investinyouthtoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    Magpie6699, sorry my mistake.

    Looks like we’ve lost out on the players nobody else wants, and ends up signing them as a very very last resort. Kinda like filling round holes with square pegs….

  • 119 The Arizona Geordie Pizzicato // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    I thought Carlton Cole is in France now.

  • 120 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:10 PM

    Still no players in :( . Well time to fire up BT sport, Bayern vs Man City should be worth a watch

  • 121 DokToon // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:12 PM

    nice one little man, best you can come up with?

    im done with you, say whatever you want, im sure youll be getting an email from the boss soon enough….

  • 122 viv // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    OK shmuck see ya!

  • 123 Santon03 // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    Gomis, Lyon asking for 10+2mil and I don’t really know about his ability, but most people said he’s not that good for 12mil.
    Remy, we all know what happened in January.
    Tbh I don’t like both especially Remy, I really don’t want him after he ditched us at last second and went for more money, signing him permanent or loan will give him easy way and make us look really stupid. If he is that good, why other teams hasn’t tried signing him?

    I would prefer Niang or other strikers with more reasonable value and less drama.

  • 124 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    So sounds like Gomis wants to come, will come but probably not till January, even the three games he might miss if he comes on deadline day could end up costing us four points which would more than likely be worth a lot more than 900K.

  • 125 toonfan76 // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    I personally don’t think anyone is gonna buy Remy outright with this rape allegation hanging over him. Floppy chops is just trying to play hard ball. West Ham interest is probably just a rumour to try and force our hand. Redknapp will cave in eventually or QPR’s Top brass will tell him to get Remy’s wages off their wage bill, forcing him to take the loan deal. All we have to be carefull of is if West Ham are after a similar deal to us but are offering to pay more of Remy’s wages in a loan deal.

  • 126 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    Dok,
    I’m not sure if him and the other numb nut are the same poster but they are best off ignored although it is tempting to fire back.

  • 127 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    Obnoxious turd @126

  • 128 DokToon // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    10-4 JfA, i apologize to the blog for getting reallly close to stooping to that P.O.S’ level… my bad…

  • 129 DokToon // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    and that P>O>S>@ 127 as well…

  • 130 Thump // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    IITianToon // Aug 1, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    Un grand soutien à mon frère @BafGomis pour cette période difficile accroche toi !!! Tu est le bienvenu à Newcastle

    Accurate translation required.. Niafron where are you!
    Is it:
    1. You are welcome at Newcastle.
    2. Welcome to Newcastle

    If 1 then nothing new, if 2, then we are talking!

    “You are welcome at Newcastle.”

    Basically the tweet is just offering Gomis support.

  • 131 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    Dont Dont spit your dummy out.

  • 132 DokToon // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    viva le nuefchateau!

  • 133 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    JFA
    You mean like last jan when even though they signed players it was after 2 very winnable games when the squad needed a boost?

  • 134 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    Thump,
    I got to that meeting quite late last night, so only caught 40 minutex.

  • 135 Thump // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    @Jamsha: Nah, that’s just a fan kit, mate. Our third kit is luminous.

    http://soccerlens.com/files/2013/05/Newcastle-2013-14-kits.jpg

  • 136 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:31 PM

    Doktoon the short trousers are straight on you seem to have skin as thick as a rizla paper. You don’t mind back biting but when anyone retaliates the crying starts pathetic.

  • 137 Thump // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:31 PM

    @JfA: Was there anything new at the meeting? I heard it was the same old spiel.

  • 138 Mister Tuff // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    The item posted earlier as below:-
    “Un grand soutien à mon frère @BafGomis pour cette période difficile accroche toi !!! Tu est le bienvenu à Newcastle”

    We should be wary about this -even taking into account an error or people who do not know French making a mistake but there is a serious but yet simple grammatical error which a six year old French kid would know how to write correctly. ie ” tu est”. The word “tu” is another word for “you” and would be used instead of “vous” to a child,family member or person you knew well. The word “est” is from the verb etre – etre means “to be”. The verb etre would be conjugated in the present tense as – je suis (I am), tu es (you are), il est (he is) etc etc. You will note that the author has mixed up the correct conjugation in that the correct words should be “tu es” and not “tu est”. Therefore I say it is a message written by a non French speaker – and of no significance – just seen somebody has previously translated.

  • 139 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    tads,
    Had we have beaten Reading and Norwich I think only Gouffran would have been signed.

  • 140 OhSholaAmeobi // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    £30m double bid for Antoine Griezmann and Carlos Vela and Sakho for £9m. Then i woke up.

  • 141 Rotonda heights // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    shadow shearer

    I wish. Pardew stinks as a manager and has killed the joy in football for me

  • 142 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:34 PM

    Thump,
    First one I’ve been to, but from what I can see Ashleys here until he voluntarily sells up when he’s good and ready.

  • 143 Yohan Kebab // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    is it taboo to say i actually love the new home kit?

  • 144 DokToon // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    JfA, if we had beaten reading and norwich, we wouldnt have been close to relegation either ….

    if it wasnt for the skipper and his fearless crew, the minnow wouldve been lost as well :)

  • 145 Rotonda heights // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    it really starts to look like a sale may be on. Clearing the decks, no incoming investment, ridiculous appointment of JFK who couldn’t negotiate buying a newspaper and the continued employment of Pardew. Maybe 2+ 2 = 5 but may be just may be.

  • 146 The Arizona Geordie Pizzicato // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:39 PM

    Mister Tuff, could that be a typo? don’t think too complicated esp it may be typed from a cellphone.

  • 147 toon kk // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    The sad thing is MA and JK will probably put some players off coming.
    I bet some of our squad arnt happy with certain things going on within the club.

  • 148 DokToon // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    plana, got tired of the viv name, so switched over? maybe go back to jeff then, havent seen that POS in awhile….

    im done acknowledging you now… see a dr about the multiple personality disorder… pills for that…best of luck to the three of you

  • 149 mikeashleyisamackem // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    we will sign no one again and 52000 muppets will turn up week in week out no wonder geordies are made out to be pig thick on tv am starting to see why

  • 150 mikeashleyisamackem // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:48 PM

    we are after no one the club is just going through the motions we had our signings in january mike ashley is in his element watching us hurt everyone should wipe the smile of his face with an empty st james

  • 151 ENNYOUEFFSEE // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    Joke as I agree that most of the players you mentioned long time back (sorry travelling home from work) could cover the right and left back positions, you are playing most of them out of position. Out and out rb is debs. Trav not good enough. Not saying that defence us a priority god forbid. But our defence is weak. Too many goals conceded last year must be a key indication that we need to strengthen.

  • 152 mikeashleyisamackem // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    no one will ever buy newcastle at the price ashley wants so might as well get use to the K*** H***

  • 153 mikeashleyisamackem // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    enny who cares we will bring in zero defenders ,douglass deal was cancelled remember ,we have been after a decent strike force for 5 yrs and we are still no closer to that

  • 154 mikeashleyisamackem // Aug 1, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    the only hope we have is ben arfa becomes another messi and if he does we will be ok till january

  • 155 ENNYOUEFFSEE // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    I totally agree. Cant see any defenders coming in myself. Douglas would be ideal but jfk stopped that and a cf is definitely priority

  • 156 mikeashleyisamackem // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    if i was a newcastle player i would be going beserk and demanding a transfer we will never win nothing under the ashley regime after all he is a hotspur fan he probs bought us because at the time we where better than them

  • 157 mikeashleyisamackem // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    i am finished with newcastle untill the fatman is gone i will always want them to win and support them but never will i set foot in st james

  • 158 mikeashleyisamackem // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    i honestly hope we are relagated if we fail to show any ambition because then ashley would lose money

  • 159 mikeashleyisamackem // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    its like talking to your self on here ,what happend to this blog its all clicky some people only talk to certain people utter garbage

  • 160 AmericanGeordie // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    “More ambitious”??

    Ambitious like QPR paying 8mil plus 75k/week for Remy?
    Ambitious like Aston Villa paying 18mil plus 80k/week for Bent?
    Ambitious like Liverpool paying 35mil plus 75k/week for Andy Carroll?

    Watch what you wish for: getting good deals not only frees up money to acquire and pay other players, it also prevents us from getting stuck with deadwood contracts (Alan Smith anyone?)

    And, once these guys are on these wages, they generally resist giving them up. Can you blame them?

    So once a player is on these big wages, their transfer fees are less. Is Remy worth 8mil? Sure, if we can get him on 45k/week like we offered in January; but at 75k/week maybe he’s not worth 8mil. So either Remy or QPR needs to take a loss on the above market contract, and it’s not surprising that neither one of them wants to. They are banking on NUFC to succumb to the pressure to buy someone now.

    Say what you will about the missteps of the Ashley regime (because they’ve been ENORMOUS!) But, their work in the transfer market is NOT one of them.

  • 161 NUFC 1892 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    If we don’t buy or sell anyone here is my1st team, subs, and reserves (number next to player is how many appearances in pre-season) Let me know your thoughts please

    Krul 0
    Santon 4
    Yanga-Mbiwa 5
    Coloccini 2
    Debuchy 3
    Tiote 3
    Sissoko 4
    Cabaye 3
    Gouffran 5
    Ben Arfa 2
    Cisse 1

    Elliot 5
    S.Taylor 4
    Haidara 0
    Anita 3
    Vuckic 5
    Marveaux 4
    Gutierrez 3

    Alnwick 2
    Williamson 5
    Streete 2
    R.Taylor 0
    Dummett 5
    Tavernier 1
    Gosling 1
    Newton 1
    Bigirimana 0
    Sammy Ameobi 4
    Obertan 2
    Amalfitano 1
    Shola Ameobi 3
    Campbell 5

  • 162 knvbmick // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:06 PM

    Ambitious – but not broke – all the big clubs are carrying massive amounts of debt – even I am overdrawn!
    Silly season is upon us – 100M for Bale lol – really need to sit back – get some talent from france – forget Loic and support Pardew boys!
    We will rise again – we as fans will be rewarded and so deserve this!




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