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QPR Block Loic Remy Loan Move To Newcastle

6:59 pm, Thursday, August 1st, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 439 Comments

There is news coming in that QPR manager Harry Redknapp has said that Newcastle United target Loic Remy will not be loaned out by Queens Park Rangers for next season.

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Loic Remy – Newcastle will have to buy him

QPR manager Harry Redknapp has told the Independent there is now way he will be loaning out the French International for next season.

“I don’t think he will go on loan,” “I can’t see any sense in it. I don’t know why we’d pay £8M and then loan him out.”

“If he was to go, someone will have to pay for him. He has a buy-out clause, and we want our money back.”

It seems that QPR will only let Remy go on a permanent basis, but of course there is that small matter of his rape trial still to come up, and at the moment he is out on bail for the alleged offense.

This is at odds a little with QPR owner Tony Fernandes, who had said that two QPR players could go out on loan for next season, and we suppose that could still be consistent with what Harry says – if one of them isn’t Loic Remy.

The release clause in his contract is probably the £8M QPR paid for him and Newcastle agreed to pay for him in January, before he opted out of the Newcastle transfer at the very last moment.

But some reports are saying the release clause in his contract is £6.8M – and that’s interesting because that’s €8M – so there could be some confusion there.

This has put a bit of a spanner in the works for Newcastle’s pursuit of Remy, but of course there is no way Remy wants to play in England’s second tier next season – with the World Cup coming up next summer in Brazil, and he wants to make the French squad.

It’s risk we know because of his pending rape trial – but life’s a risk – and we think Newcastle should sign Remy up.

What do you think?

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439 responses so far ↓

  • 1 The Arizona Geordie Pizzicato // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    Well, no news?

  • 2 ENNYOUEFFSEE // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    Expected

  • 3 Goodfella // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    Repost;

    Hopefully we get a signing in tomorrow and he can be unveiled in the new strip :)

  • 4 ENNYOUEFFSEE // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    Goodfella I like an optimist.

  • 5 John Tudor // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    the dole gets less signings than us

  • 6 ~Joke-innear~ // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    Oh how it sucks to be us. Even when we scrape the bottom of the barrel, we can’t get what we want…..

    How our club is being ruined… i’d prefer having a monkey as our DoF, would be far more productive then this useless turd currently at the club.

  • 7 lesh // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    Tine to get Joe on the case?

    Oh, he was said to be at their ground the other day and probably made an offer and was then.escorted off the premises, into the care of his social worker!

  • 8 John Tudor // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    more more

  • 9 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    Ed man that Redknapp interview was at the start of the window wasn’t it?!?!

  • 10 Ben3arfa // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    At this rate we wont be signing anyone this window

    Maybe when Kinnear’s grandchild inherits his role as DoF

  • 11 lesh // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    Joke-innear, the monkey turned the job Joe got, down.

  • 12 Dannyo // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    No no no no no no no.
    The interview is ooooold! From the start of July ffs.

  • 13 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:08 PM

    Wouldn’t trust JFK to get a round in down the pub let alone a top CF

  • 14 Mac // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    This is an old old interview. He was talking about Samba an Adel Taarbt when he said it

  • 15 John Tudor // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    bad day @black n white rock

  • 16 Jarra // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    I obviously have far too much time on my hands, so I read this blog around every two hours.
    Like many of you I am waiting for good news, in fact if truth be known praying for it.
    Some of you are braver than I and I understand your frustration as at this very time I do worry what next season will bring.
    I think we have a good set of players but lack the obvious striker, will he or they come in before the season starts, I honestly have no idea.
    If not I can only hope Mr Pardew tries a more positive approach and does not fall into the mould of trying to hang on to what we have got.
    Football for me is Newcastle United as for most of you I imagine.
    One thing for sure these next three weeks could be interesting and here are my simple predictions.
    1. No transfers in and see how we go.
    2. The strikers in and hopes again for a much improved season.
    3. Out of the blue he sells the club and has used all the off the field issues as a distraction, but sells during the last few days of the transfer window in a hope to see us struggle.
    Only one man knows which option he will take and even though he owns the club, I somehow do not think he bleeds it like we do. But then again does any owner.

  • 17 viv // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    Harry hadn’t even been on his holiday when that interview was done.

  • 18 JackButler // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:13 PM

    This was first said by ‘Arry when there were stories going around that Ceasar was going out on loan and Old ‘Arry also talked about the fact he didn’t want Remy going out on loan either.

    But with that rape case hanging over his head there’s little to no chance that nayone would be willing to buy him outright at this point in time

  • 19 Belfast // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:13 PM

    It’s new.
    The last interview he done, he was talking about Cesar and Tarrabat. He didn’t mention anything about Remy

  • 20 low fell mag // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    That contradicts what their chairman had to say a couple of days ago.
    Im sure he said he was letting a few players out on loan as he wants them back if Qpr are promoted next year

  • 21 tekkers2402 // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    Even if its a new interview, it’s Tony Fernandes’ call. If he wants to slash the wage bill by loaning players out (which he has said) then it’s not exactly old ‘Arry’s call is it.

  • 22 Goodfella // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    Enn you eff see

    Lol it’s the only thing keeping me going at the minute ;)

  • 23 toon22 // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    Nobodys going to buy Remy outright,he is up for rape and could end up in prison.
    Which means they inted to keep him,which im sure Remy isnt going to go along with.
    If QPR insist on a sale only im happy for them to keep him.They are trying to force the sale as they dont want the risk of losing there money to prison.

  • 24 ENNYOUEFFSEE // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    Why would QPR go out and sign another striker today if they are not willing to loan out Remy.

  • 25 Belfast // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    Or maybe i’m wrong ? The championship starts on saturday like. So he’s probably had a press conference today.

  • 26 toon22 // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    We need a striker but we dont need a one which would drag our name through the mud(if thats possible anymore)

  • 27 Mister Tuff // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    ed clearly does not read the blog – there is NO RAPE TRIAL. -but there might be if he is charged.
    Dirty Harry will want to keep Remy -obviously, but does Remy really want a chance atthe world cup. He will have to play in the PL to display his wares. It is now or never for Remy -next world cup he may be too old. If Remy says he wants to go I think QPR will accommodate him. Heard Dirty Harry say on loads of occasions that if players do not want to play for him/QPR they are no use to him. Lets just wait and see what transpires.

  • 28 ENNYOUEFFSEE // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    Toon22 JFK is capable of doing that himself

  • 29 The Arizona Geordie Pizzicato // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    viv, what is going on @ Benton?

  • 30 HullMag6 // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    Buy him anyway -

    worst case scenario: there’s a case to answer, court date set, bailed hands over passport, reports to a nominated police station before training everyday so he can train/play as much as possible then think about what ifs – if found guilty.

    Best case scenario – no case to answer – crack on mon ami

    And anything on between – is it worth the risk?
    Now I’d say yes a month or so ago I wouldn’t be sure.

    There may be someone with greater legal knowledge than me that might correct some of the above but thats where I think we’re at with this deal.

  • 31 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    It would be just or luck that we would sign Remy and as soon as the ink dry’s on the contract the police turn up at Benton and lock him up for 20 years :)

  • 32 JackButler // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    No way that Remy stays at QPR going into a world cup year

  • 33 toon kk // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    If MA ever sells the club he’ll probably leave a bronze statue of himself to haunt us.

  • 34 The Arizona Geordie Pizzicato // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    Someone never learns… I have found this on wiki:

    “On the 1st of August 2013, It was confirmed on fellow Newcastle United player Moussa Sissoko Twitter account that he would be joining Newcastle. Yet to be confirmed by either club.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baf%C3%A9timbi_Gomis

  • 35 Mag.no // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    I’m also starting to believe Newcastle is set up for a sale. Ashley spent money in january, and even he knows how close we are from a pretty good squad.
    A couple of pacey players upfront and we have a good attacking side, so why does he not do it?

    Ashley selling the club will happen, no doubt about it. If it’s now or a few years down the line i’m not sure, but there are signs that Ashley are starting to prepare for a imminent sale. I cross my fingers for a dedicated and ambitious buyer.

  • 36 HullMag6 // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:27 PM

    Not so cut and dried, it’s only an allegation, no case to answer yet.

  • 37 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    What is Pep Guardiola doing at Bayern ? . No strikers on the pitch and playing the best Right back in the world at centre mid field. Plus he has chosen to get rid of Mario Gomez and keep Mandzukic . What exactly were Bayern doing wrong like ? .

  • 38 ~Joke-innear~ // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:32 PM

    Why would MA appoint a new DoF if he was preparing for a sale? Its just more wages he has to pay out.

  • 39 toon kk // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    Swansea kick off in 15 mins on itv4, it will show us what Bony and mit play like together.

  • 40 johnboy // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    This can’t be true because Colin said days ago that he was signed! And I believe every word he tweets *cough*

  • 41 The Arizona Geordie Pizzicato // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    Suddenly the blog is quiet. Where y’all at?

  • 42 stretchintoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    On a different note i see that tedious little turd michelle owens horse won today (really done my head in)i was hoping that when he went to stroke it it kicked him straight in the baby making department……that didnt happen which also done my head in….god i hate that little sh*te!

  • 43 one Tony Green // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    He has not even been charged with anything so how can he have a trial pending. The CPS it would seem do not have enough evidence to proceed.

  • 44 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    @32,
    On my previous thread I said imo Mashley isvhere until Rangers are back in Europe a much cheaper investment to advertise his wares.

  • 45 HullMag6 // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    Pep turning Bayern into another Barca?
    Who needs strikers lol.

  • 46 northernirishtoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    Thank god!

    Remy on a one year loan wasn’t a great deal for us

  • 47 Whos_SuperMac // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    Why would we want to sign a suspected rapists anyway?
    Would you invite Remy to your daughters 18th birthday party??? Stay well clear I say, at least till the truth comes out

  • 48 Mister Tuff // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    toon kk did not realise it was on the telly – just switched it on -is Bony playing. I predict Bony/Michu will be the strike partnership of the season.

  • 49 viv // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:43 PM

    @29 its gone as flat as a witches tit.

  • 50 HullMag6 // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    Otg

    Exactly why I changed my tune

  • 51 HullMag6 // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    Harry wants to spend money, hence needs to sell remy.

  • 52 The Arizona Geordie Pizzicato // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:52 PM

    no one is talking about Gomis anymire.

  • 53 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    I hope we get Gomis over the line.

  • 54 kevymartins // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    It’s a 100% cert we will have a striker in by the time the season starts.

  • 55 Ted Bundy // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    First televised match that actually means anything, involving a Prem club, over on ITV4 now. Check out how hard Bony is going to bomb :lol:

  • 56 NotEvenGeordie // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    Loan deal with an option to buy is the best deal for us, set a price that we can pay in January or next summer, once we know the outcome of his case.

    On another note, I really like the new kit, they’ve managed to produce a modern looking kit that is pretty individual.

  • 57 wynsleap // Aug 1, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    2nd August tomorrow.
    I think we are all entitled to ask what Carr and Joe Kinnear are getting paid for at the moment.
    If we’re never going to buy players we may as well save their wages to go into Ashley’s pot.
    It’s a b****y joke and no mistake.

  • 58 oldbobaycliffe // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:01 PM

    joke-innear surely the buying club would have to pay off pardew and kinnear if they wanted rid could be that ashley wanted to give kinnear a bonus 3yrs money as a pay off isn,t to be taken lightly.all he has to do for the money is nothing which he seems to do well

  • 59 gaz 44 // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    Rather have gomis

  • 60 Ted Bundy // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    Might want to cut your ears off if watching though, the ‘raconteur’ Clark Carlisle is commentating; could press the mute button instead, I guess.

  • 61 Ben3arfa // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:05 PM

    I think Man. City are gonna rip us a new A-hole on the first day of the season

    thanks kinnear you lazy pathetic old geezer

  • 62 Toon_Tom // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    We offered 8M prior to him signing for QPR – forget about the court case and sign him up. Use the 2M we were willing to spend on Bent and add some to the Gomis deal (even tho we weren’t expecting them to accept)

    Sky92 was a joke for me – building it up and then show us ALL the brand new strip that none of us have ever seen, accept the few who bought it in the US, or the thousands that saw it on here, or the millions on social network!!!

    It’s a farce – Darren Bent and Villa were said to be disgusted by Kinnear.

  • 63 Uncertain Toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    Jail,

    Good to see you back in the room mate, even though i’ve just cottoned on i was talking to you anyway. Ha, anagrams not my forte mate, however easy you make them!
    I thought i recognised the constructive posts ref. the squad though and really should of twigged!
    As far as this blog goes I wouldn’t give half the people on here the time of day. For people to think opinions damage the club is pretty incredulous to say the least.
    As for the people that want filters in place, stop patronising Ed and create your own blog!
    Some people just aren’t happy. I’m sure there’s a down arrow/sroll/page down available!
    I’m digressing again! soz.
    Back to the whole point of this here conversation medium, I think the defence is ok, save for somebody giving Debs competition at RB. The midfielders need to slot in when Debs or Santon attack and Anita seems to see that, probably due to Dutch coaching.

  • 64 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    Ben arfa,
    As much as he is dislikable I think your venting your anger at the wrong person.

  • 65 Uncertain Toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    Ben3,

    I think you’re right! Unhappy days!

  • 66 Ted Bundy // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    Imagine this blog if City thump us 5-0 :lol:

  • 67 gazza85 // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    Tbf I think an away game against Citeh is far from the best game to judge us on for next season.

    They are on a different planet financially to all but 3 or 4 in the prem and have amassed a squad that most would be envious of (though they’ve paid through the nose for it).

    Our 1st 5 or 6 games as a whole will be better used to judge ourselves because we’d probably lose at Citeh whether we spend £0 or £30million the gap is that big.

    Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like it but I’m just being realistic.

  • 68 nico // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    This interview is from a few days ago. Harry said they won’t loan Remy, only let him go for money.
    I think we’ll get Gomis still.

  • 69 Ben3arfa // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    Kinnear was appointed by the club to handle incoming players ie. improve quality of the playing staff

    All indications are showing that he is set to fail and in turn the whole club will decline because of his cancerous influence

  • 70 toon kk // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:20 PM

    I think JFK will be a stumbling block for any potential new signings coming in and with MA tight ways spells trouble to me.

    Swansea are playing well, some nice passing.

  • 71 isleofmanman // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:20 PM

    Another management failure

    Why did no one talk to Harry weeks ago??

    He’s a wily old fox and could be blagging but surely his chairman wants his brass back but Harry doesn’t want a demotivated player

    A loan deal is the only sensible way to go for the Toon

    I’d stand firm and not buy Remy except via a loan with a lock-out option agreement. It may be that if he scores 20 goals during the loan we pay QPR £10m

  • 72 Ted Bundy // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    Ben3arfa

    Go listen to Gloom Sunday, you mope.

  • 73 SeanNufc87 // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    Anyone else think bony looks lost?

  • 74 scout // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    Why do people say Kinnear is so useless with transfers. You could send anyone in, it’s not his money at the end of the day. He’s just doing the donkey work.

  • 75 Whos_SuperMac // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    If we’ve £2m to spend on Bent I’d rather it was spent on Wells from Bradford City, the kid chases everything & is fast. Leave Cisse in the box & let the kid do the chasing down.

  • 76 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    Just been looking for Willie McFaul’s managerial record at Newcastle when I stumbled on
    http://www.toon1892.co.uk/list_managers.php
    makes interesting reading.

  • 77 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    UT,
    On paper we have a great defence but statistically one of the worst in the division, defo need competition for Debuchy and to be fair it was pretty much just thrown together when Collo and Santon got injuries so hopefully the defence will be a lot more solid.
    Not sure who complained yesterday but we have to remember that jeff probably hasn’t gone away and has probably been on the blog today.

  • 78 Ben3arfa // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    Bundy?

    Seems like you have of faith in Kinnear you moron .

  • 79 pottsclock // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    Let’s just buy him and be done.

    Bony looking poor for Swansea on ITV4. Early days maybe but I’m glad we didn’t get him.

  • 80 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    Obnoxious little turd @77!

  • 81 Ted Bundy // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    As Kevy said, we’ll have a ST by the time City comes around. How do people think our transfer model is structured, Kinnear isn’t given a budget to go and spend, all his job is to do is twist MAs arm and advise him, MA is still the one ratifying deals, just like he always has. If Kinnear really has attended any negotiations, it’ll only be with MAs blessing of a set amount to not budge beyond.

  • 82 Ted Bundy // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    So, Ben3arfa, pick your pet lip up.

  • 83 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    Potts,
    Doesn’t look like he’s had many chances ?

  • 84 yo-yo // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    jeff was banned for the white supremacy cr*p

  • 85 Toon_Tom // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    Hi Ted, love your work!

  • 86 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    Bundy
    Then where’s the point in kinnear?

  • 87 Belfast // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    I wouldn’t hold my breath on signing a striker before the Man City game tbh Ted Bundy

  • 88 toon kk // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    Pottsclock
    Yep agree Bony looks a bit lost, early to judge him though. Michu looking good.

  • 89 Ted Bundy // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:41 PM

    tads

    He’s a pinata? Knock a few back with Mash?

    Beats me. I don’t see why Pardew can’t do the persuasive thing, maybe he was just sick of hearing Pardew’s nagging voice? :lol: Just clarifying what actually happens, as described when he joined, as some seem to think we have the traditional, here’s your budget, go and spend it as you please set-up, with JFK heading it. Everyone knows Mash wouldn’t be that hands-off with his money.

  • 90 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:41 PM

    There will be some incomings. Kinnear, is here to wind Pardew, up so he will walk but he’s to thick to take the hint.

  • 91 Ted Bundy // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    Toon_Tom

    Thanks, man! Which was your favourite?

  • 92 cisse-god // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    hey guys new to the blog, think im just like every other Newcastle fan on here, mad and angry that its so hard for us to bring in a single player, if we want Remy or gomis then why cant we just splash out the cash, if don’t bring anyone in its going to be a long season for us

  • 93 Ted Bundy // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    Yup, for the grand conspiracists among us, there is the JFK to upset and ultimately usurp Pardew theory.

  • 94 Toon_Tom // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    Plana – always same old $hite with you.

    Haven’t you learned that Ashley is a ruthless business man who doesn’t give a toss who he winds up – meaning, if he wanted Pardew gone he would get rid straight away.

  • 95 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    Ted
    The main problem being JFK wouldn’t be the man you chose to go and haggle
    The stick he gets, imo anyway, is simply because he hasn’t the skills to negotiate a deal, I know Ashley has hold of the purse strings but its joes job to convince him to loosen them
    So far he’s failing miserably!

  • 96 Mister Tuff // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    seanNufc – I’m watching the game Bony does seem absolutely lost – not in the game at all. Swansea are playing some decent possession stuff but it seems, as last season, their final ball is not quality. I anticipate Bony will get better as time goes on – he better had improve or he will flop.
    As a comparison with the Toon – I am extremely nervous -they could certainly outplay us -no doubt about it -everybody is mobile, looking for the pass, making space, no panic, playing out from the back, good possession. Just the final ball is faulty. To the clots who doubted Laudrup – he has a good side and they are obviously coached in the correct way. And our lot just started the basics of pass and move.

  • 97 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    Yo yo,
    Wasn’t that somebody else, jeff just left when he got caught out with that summit wong idiot sh!t, I’m sure plan a has something to do with the whole billy, bob ted , eric and plan b, seriously just best ignored.

  • 98 ENNYOUEFFSEE // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    JFA agreed we need competition for our right back slot. Left we are covered. One cb would not go a miss though. Douglas would have been good.

  • 99 Uncertain Toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    Jail,

    Just read the list Charlie put up and it shows Pardew -19 goals over his tenure, makes for poor reading and you wonder what effect the ’4 days defensive training per week gets us’. It’s as if he got bogged down with the defence and didn’t put any focus on the other 6 players defending responsibilties.
    Aah, young jeff, the blog needs him mate.
    Like a hole in the head!!!!

    Charlie,

    Great find that list, makes the cogs turn a bit!

  • 100 Toon_Tom // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    Ted – I admired the fact you impersonated Authoriy figures to lure in your victims.

    Do me a favour – impersonate a DOF and lure in some CFs please!

  • 101 Ben3arfa // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:47 PM

    Bundy

    you sir are a Kinnear apologist of the highest magnitude

    Are you trying to tell me Kinnear hasnt been a negative influence on the club? … Come on

  • 102 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    Toon time Ashley won’t pay up Pardews contract. Now go away and recite it until it registers in your nappa!

  • 103 toon kk // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    Tads@94
    Agree JFK will struggle.

  • 104 bollance // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    For anyone wanting to see the next generation in the Milk Cup,

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23529309

  • 105 Belfast // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    Is Ted Bundy another one of these wind up accounts ?

    I have my suspicions

  • 106 manni // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2013/loic-remy-talks-enter-final-stage/

    Who are we meant to believe ppl in france or mr potatoe head
    Harry Sedcrap lol

  • 107 Toon_Tom // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    Plana – He wouldn’t have to pay 7yrs to get rid of him. You honestly think he is that daft?

    Pardew is on an 8year contract, but Ashley can get rid at any point with only 12months compensation

  • 108 Robleespecial // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    Wow negrado thats what i call a striker! What a player what a goal!!

  • 109 Yohan Kebab // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    bollance

    some very very good goals there

    as expected the attackers mature before defenders/goalkeepers

  • 110 Ted Bundy // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:55 PM

    I’m not apologising for Kinnear, the guy’s off his rocker and would be best placed on one, inside an old folks home, the only real use in my eyes for him, would be to use him as a battering ram to break into Mash’s office, after Mash has locked himself inside on deadline day.

    I don’t know why him and his tempura heart are really here, just reiterating the supposed rationale behind his presence.

  • 111 Belfast // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    I thought that as well Toon Tom but surely he would of got rid of him in the summer if that was the case.

    Spent that money in January and we only stayed up because the teams below us were shit

  • 112 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    Toon tom 10 million to sack Pardew, so he is that daft.

  • 113 Ted Bundy // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    Toon_Tom

    I’ll teach you how, then you can do it. I’m busy lanning something else.

    Belfast

    Lay off, just because I’ve got more charm than the whole of Ireland.

  • 114 Uncertain Toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    So Routledge supplies the cross for Bony to score! mmmm…..

  • 115 Ted Bundy // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    *planning.

  • 116 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Dodged a bullet there like !

  • 117 HullMag6 // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Dummett can play at either fb position so why not try him there as competition for debs.

  • 118 SeanNufc87 // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    I still can’t and wont believe that Ashley didn’t know or didn’t need to sign off on pardew getting an 8 year deal, in which case there would be a clause in his contract that states should he not perform up to a standard, he will be fired and receive only a year of salary.

    Say what you like about Ashley, you dont become the richest man in the north east by making stupid moves in business.

  • 119 toon kk // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    I can’t see MA getting rid of Pards any time soon, he doesn’t ask for much and goes along with everything MA says.

  • 120 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    Obnoxious little turd@115!

  • 121 kevymartins // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    Bony again.

  • 122 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    The 12 months only applies if Pardew walks, hence Kinnear.

  • 123 manni // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    Bony just scored crap lol

  • 124 geordie157 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    Bony and michu clicking already, Swansea playing some great football. Routledge looks good, selling him looks to have been a bad decision.

  • 125 Uncertain Toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:02 PM

    Good player that Bony, but he’s no Shola!!!

  • 126 colwell // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    Bony looks shite glad we never tried to sign him.

    He’s just a sh1t Ameobi, sh1t Ameobi!

  • 127 John Tudor // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    ashley
    where is your ambition
    oh yer its sh1t3 direct
    up yours mate

  • 128 Toon_Tom // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:05 PM

    Planna @111 – where did you pluck that £10M from?

  • 129 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:05 PM

    Uncertain Toon
    I made my cogs engage to! – hows about the TOON managing by committee’sor secretary/acting manager – not bad records
    Boardroom Committee played 73 won 34 = 47% win record
    or Club secretary/acting manager – Frank Watt under him won numerous titles played 1,273 games winning 585 = 46% win record

    Not bad eh!

  • 130 Toon_Tom // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    Pardew won’t be on any more that £2M

  • 131 SeanNufc87 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    Come on lads, I have no doubt bony will come good but hes looked crap all game, and don’t bring up his goals, his first granted was a great header but a tap in hardly requires talent.

  • 132 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    Jesus,
    If he’d done that for us against Blackpool Pards would have him in the shop window.

  • 133 geordie157 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    Swansea now play a much better passing game, its possession football but they have more attacking flair now. Would love it if we played like them instead of hoof ball. Takes years to integrate that style into in a side.

  • 134 Ben3arfa // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    I cant believe its been almost 3 weeks since Kinnear has returned from his pathetic holiday and he is yet to sign a player ..

    WTF IS GOING ON

  • 135 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    8 years wages try using simple mathematics. Are you pretending to be thick?

  • 136 Toon Avenger // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    Newcastle get into Europa – don’t do anything to prepare

    Swansea get into Europa – Spend £20 million to prepare

  • 137 colwell // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    SeanNufc87

    Lol don’t count Bony’s goals? thats his job if he plays shite and scores a hat trick sounds like a good day at the office to me.

  • 138 SeanNufc87 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    Swansea fans are cnuts

  • 139 Toon_Tom // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    Planna – read my other post – he does not have to pay each year if he sacked Pardew. He pays 12months!!!

  • 140 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    Sean tbf he hardly saw the ball and didn’tdo much wrong and as a striker can you do a whole lot more than two goals with twenty odd minutes to go.

  • 141 Uncertain Toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    Surely if there was a clause in Pardews contract he’d be gone on. I would think if he resigns he gets diddly. Is Pardew not on a gash wage in comparison to other managers in the league? If true seems Llamsarse looked after him there especially if the Llamsarse/Ashley was relationship was souring at that time.

  • 142 toon kk // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    Bony lacks pace in a quick Swansea side. I still think he’ll get goals for them though.

  • 143 NUFC 1892 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    If we don’t buy or sell anyone here is my1st team, subs, and reserves (number next to player is how many appearances in pre-season) Let me know your thoughts please

    Krul 0
    Santon 4
    Yanga-Mbiwa 5
    Coloccini 2
    Debuchy 3
    Tiote 3
    Sissoko 4
    Cabaye 3
    Gouffran 5
    Ben Arfa 2
    Cisse 1

    Elliot 5
    S.Taylor 4
    Haidara 0
    Anita 3
    Vuckic 5
    Marveaux 4
    Gutierrez 3

    Alnwick 2
    Williamson 5
    Streete 2
    R.Taylor 0
    Dummett 5
    Tavernier 1
    Gosling 1
    Newton 1
    Bigirimana 0
    Sammy Ameobi 4
    Obertan 2
    Amalfitano 1
    Shola Ameobi 3
    Campbell 5

  • 144 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    Only if he walks out then he gets 12 months toon tom repeat after me.

  • 145 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    Colwell,
    We didn’t just actually not spend, we actually weakened the team.

  • 146 SeanNufc87 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    Colwel

    I knew that was coming, as I said he scored a good goal, looked dire the rest of the game and a brick wall in his place would have got his second goal, more of a deflection than anything else. Theres more to a striker than being in the right place every now and then.

  • 147 colwell // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    Bony is a stronger version of Cisse. Their first touches are poor, no pace but although don’t bring a whole lot they do their jobs and bang goals in.

  • 148 davis_toons // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    “Newcastle get into Europa – don’t do anything to prepare
    Swansea get into Europa – Spend £20 million to prepare”

    - Thats because they build from the back
    -And for us, we need to clear the debtsss.

  • 149 davis_toons // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    …and start from scratch.

  • 150 Macas // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    Bony doesn’t look like the striker we needed, rather slow and doesn’t look like he holds the ball up that well either. We have got a much better poacher in Cisse.

  • 151 colwell // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    SeanNufc87

    Mate strikers are there to score end of, if they score then they are doing what they are paid for. Swansea is perfect for Bony they play the ball well set him up and goal.

  • 152 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    Not even Toon tom would sign a contract for 8 years that pays you one years salary if we sack you. Pardew could do a Keegan and take Ashley to court he has a written contract of employment for 8 years.

  • 153 SeanNufc87 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    Jfa

    Welcome back, first time our paths have crossed since you were rightly banned from the blog for… I still don’t know.

    He looks lost mate! He keeps losing the ball, and why on earth does he fall over when ever anyone is near!? Now I understand the Drogba comparison.

  • 154 colwell // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    I see all the extra money Stoke have received this season is not only available to sign players but also to fund all coaches for the away games for their fans. Nice touch.

  • 155 daztoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    Williams is a rock at the back

  • 156 SeanNufc87 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:21 PM

    Plana

    Thats just daft mate, its the same in any standard work contract, I have a clause in mine that states if my gaffer doesnt think im working as well as I should on a consistent basis he can get shot with small severance.

  • 157 Bearsize // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:21 PM

    Harry knows he is guilty thats why he needs to sell. Conspiracy anyone?

  • 158 Belfast // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    Sill can’t believe you got banned

    Dark forces at work !! lol

  • 159 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    Ok sean are you on 2 million a year?

  • 160 Toon1978 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    Watching Swansea and I must admit I quite jealous. I am sick to the back teeth with our owners. I must also admit I am resigned to the fact that we will sign nobody.

  • 161 Belfast // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    Nah I would say Arry has been told he needs to sell before he can buy. We’ll give you a number 9, but after that you need to bring in your own funds.

  • 162 daztoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    I would have forsaken any new signings just to have Laudrup instead of Pardumb.
    Then again were gonna be stuck with Pardumb with no signings,happy days

  • 163 Uncertain Toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    Is Pardew on 2 million a year? That is the question!

  • 164 SeanNufc87 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    Plana

    What has that got to do with anything? My boss isnt a multi billionaire either.

  • 165 geordie157 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    Bony assist, pozuelo is another good signing for them.

  • 166 Belfast // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    I think he’s on a bonus related contract. So last season he was probably on about 50 quid a week.

  • 167 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    Sean,
    I got an e mail from Ed saying a few people has mailed him to explain that I shouldn’t be banned and that hiccups happen, tbh I think he will review the way he moderates posters, when you can have a situation when somebody like plan a and one of his alias could complain about me and have me banned because he recieved two complaints.

  • 168 croftus5678 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    well thats 2 goals for bony in his first game with 60mins gone >.< sigh.

  • 169 Rainrix // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    Swansea look terrific like, that 4th was really nice. Its a bit of a gutshot seeing swansea going so far in the right direction and us going so far back :(

  • 170 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    Exactly! Big sam got all his contract paid up off Ashley.

  • 171 Uncertain Toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    Football managers in general do very nicely when they get the boot, certainly a lot more than us mere mortals, in relative terms that is. And the majority of it is to keep their gobs shut!

  • 172 SeanNufc87 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    And you think pardews on more than most the players? Id have to doubt that personally.

  • 173 toon kk // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    Pardew would have Swansea playing hoofball if he managed them and they would not be 4-0 up.

  • 174 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    Obnoxious little turd@166

  • 175 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    If Swansea do well this year Pardew will look like a right cnut !

  • 176 Bearsize // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    I hope and pray for anyone, even a rapist, thats how desperate am getting lol

  • 177 kilcline // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    Being stuck in traffic missing his kids graduation is too good for Ashley.

  • 178 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    Toon Tom is right if Pardew is sacked he does not get the remainder of his contract only a year.

    It would also be worthy to note Pardew could be, as I don’t know what the newer promoted teams managers are on, the lowest paid manager in the league.

    His actual money worthy of note comes from a bonus depending on his league position.

    I know this is true, choose to accept it or not your choice.

    Pardew is also due bonuses from the selling of players. When Andy Carrolll left he forfeited the bonus and asked for it to be invested into the squad.

    People slate him but he isn’t greedy from what I have heard and know about him.

  • 179 roe997 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    Qpr have bought charlue austin is that correct?

  • 180 SeanNufc87 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    Jfa

    Surprised you dont get banned every day what with viv, plana, jeff, sum ting, et cetera.

    Saying that you have the power now too raj.

  • 181 martoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:34 PM

    Rainrix – Swansea do look good and nice to watch – all their new signings look pretty good as well unlike our non-existent ones.

  • 182 james589 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:34 PM

    Simple solution here surely would be to agree to a contingent deal- loan initially then as and when he is cleared of the charges hanging over him the deal crystallises and becomes permanent. QPR can make the option to sign permanently irrevocable and then we or any other club would be bound if he is cleared. But no one is going to risk £8m on a potential jail sentence.

    Slightly unorthodox but I don’t see how it would be a problem so long as the small print was all ok.

    We were willing to pay the money in January and nothing has changed since then except this rape case so it seems to me to be a sensible solution. Unless the clubs know more about the case than we do, I can’t see anyone wanting to gamble on a permanent deal.

  • 183 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    Phewww,
    How did he miss that, if Cisse missed a chance like that we’d have been relegated !

  • 184 Blofal // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    I still would really like Nwofor. Looks good that kid. Anyone have any news on where Curtis Good will be loaned out to?

  • 185 Uncertain Toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    Belfast,

    50 quid, think you’re exaggerating a bit there mate!!!

  • 186 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:37 PM

    I also know the club pays STaylor 250k a year as a loyalty bonus (obviously providing he stays), do what you want with this information. He is not on a massive salary.

    Infact the highest paid player is Colo right now, I believe him and Jonas re negotiated their deals and despite being on less than the original 70k they are our highest paid players.

    Although I am not sure what the new Frenchies got in Jan. Yet I would imagine they are not too high as even paying the same wage they were getting the UK pay less tax therefore that’s an automatic increase, I would guess no more than 30k a week for Sissoko, Debuchy and Mbiwa although I do not know for sure.

  • 187 SeanNufc87 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:37 PM

    Plana

    Shut it now lad, if we did a poll on who we would prefer, jail or you, your onlu votes would probably come from your aliases.

    Stop winding people up n drop the hate campaign on jfa

  • 188 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    Sean they probably banned you for talking bollocks!

  • 189 croftus5678 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    i’m sorry guys but i’m afraid i can see even in this 1 game that swansea are out of our league >.<

    another place dropped ! we really ought to realistically admit now that we are only a mid table team and surely can not break into top 6 or even top 8 tbh.

  • 190 SeanNufc87 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    Plana

    Iv never been banned, as I try to remain amicable to all parties and rarely let kretins rile me up. We have nowt left to say to each other.

  • 191 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    @ croftus

    Shame like because I believe on paper our team is better. Just shows how much a good manager can bring out the best in players.

  • 192 Ben3arfa // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:44 PM

    We are a pathetic club run by pathetic people

    goodnight

  • 193 SeanNufc87 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:44 PM

    Jfa

    That wasn’t a dig at you btw mate lol

  • 194 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:44 PM

    Ok sean its cretin not kretin.

  • 195 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    Well after reading the amount of shite spuds fans are spouting at people like Gary lineker, Andy Goldstien or any other journo’s/pundit/general football fan about those big bad bullies Real Madrid saying bale wouldn’t want to go there as there’s no appeal for him, can Madrid even afford him blah blah blah ……I can officially state we are no longer the most deluded fans on the planet!!!!!;)

  • 196 Belfast // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    Uncertain Toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    plus a £25 win bonus

  • 197 toon kk // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    I know Pardews tactics are shit but it can’t be easy for him or any manager working for MA, you’ll have to be prepared to say yes if you want your job. Imo Pards should grow a pair.

  • 198 SeanNufc87 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    Cant wait to see if bony can replicate in the prem when he will be given little to no space, they had 6 men in the box and they were all ball watching, not one looked at or for bony.

  • 199 yo-yo // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    plana/viv …….. wee man syndrome

  • 200 croftus5678 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    @190 big

    i’ll not get involved with what or who’s to blame ect as i’m a toon fan and think all true toon fans are biased to a degree ! but they have something extra in everything they do atm bony/michu are going to be deadly and the rest just believe.

  • 201 SeanNufc87 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    Plana

    Lol couldn’t give a toss.

  • 202 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:47 PM

    Croftus,
    That’s the trouble, there are far too many people that are convincing themselves and others that we are a mid table club, take away the fact we have 52K supporters to rely on and that we have the third best stadium in the country, we are the 20th richest club in the world and that has nothing to do with Mike Ashleys billions, that doesn’t sound like a club that can be out spent by Norwich and Swansea.

  • 203 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:49 PM

    Lol love the love for Swansea ….

    Remind me who are they playing again? ….. Ah that’s right.

    Sorry who?

    Oh aye THEM! The team no one of this blog has ever heard of in their entire life!

    Aye defo CL quality beating them like.

    Swansea are a top 10 side, they will drop out of it when they play in the EL this season.

    The difference between 8th and 18th will be 9-12 points, that’s competing EL possibly to relegation…. 3-4 wins ….. The margins are minimal.

    It goes top 7 then the rest, then a couple of stragglers from the pack. Crystal Palace? And I feel West Brom this season maybe in trouble.

    The difference is marginal, a couple of injuries to key players could see u were we ended up last year. A season with less injuries could see u competing the EL spots, and now and again you may see a team breach the top 7!

    Chelsea
    Man Utd
    Man City
    Arsenal
    Spurs? (Without bale? Could drop out)
    Liverpool
    Everton

    They are in no order the top 7 on a regular basis.

  • 204 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:49 PM

    Yoyo i hear your a dwarf

  • 205 Belfast // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:50 PM

    Nobody really knows how much he’s on year tbh
    I wouldn’t expect it to be that much.

    If it is bonus related he was probably the lowest paid manager in the league last season.

  • 206 croftus5678 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:50 PM

    @197 sean

    did we lend them our defence ?

    i hope he doesnt hit it off either but i dont think we have a prayer tbh.

    just bloody annoyed >.< 12mil ffs

  • 207 Uncertain Toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:51 PM

    Belfast,

    And he blew the lot down Pink Lane!!!

  • 208 John Tudor // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:51 PM

    i see you have us no-where near

  • 209 goalseeker // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    We have had a striker in how did you miss it lads – it was Cisse but he has now called off his strike so there is no need for any more :-)

  • 210 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    Sean,
    I can see why you want Bony to fail but we had that guy on the radar for two years if reports are to be believed, you have to take chances now and then, what would of happened if Cisse started with us like he was last season.

  • 211 daztoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    Just goes to show what a good manager Laudrup is and that’s how football should be played total professional outfit.
    Pardew will never get us even close to that standard

  • 212 Belfast // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    Uncertain Toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:51 PM

    Maybe his 8 year contract is actually an 8 year apprenticeship and he’s only on £1 a hour. :)

  • 213 John Tudor // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    no ambition=no hope sorry

  • 214 microbar // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    No Remy
    No Gomis
    No f!!!ng idea
    Ashley will have us back in the champinship

  • 215 John Tudor // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    daz spot on there with that

  • 216 Mister Tuff // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    plana @173 – what is the point in that post. You must be a right thicko. I sure there is a video of you- aha found it.
    http://s.tf1.fr/mmdia/i/01/1/image-jackass-deux-le-film-de-jeff-tremaine-10335011zhfrk.jpg?v=1

    I do not like your red hat but your friend seems excited to see you.

  • 217 welshgeordie9 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    137SeanNufc87 // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    Swansea fans are cnuts

    yeah right if you say so

  • 218 Uncertain Toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    I heard he was actually employed by SportsDirect on that zero hour thingy!!!

  • 219 knvbmick // Aug 1, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    Get Loic in January – sorry we got rid of these kind of losers before, such as bramble, dyer, ranger – when he is a free man – then get him- our club has been through too much sh1t!

  • 220 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    Mister tuff the geek that ferrets around for little tit bits on youtube.

  • 221 Bearsize // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:02 PM

    Poo list

    Shola
    Pardew
    Gosling
    Sammy
    Tiote
    Jonas
    Saylor
    Elliot
    Prob keep willo as half decent 4th choice

    Players who will progress this season

    Anita
    Marvaux
    Santon
    Debuchy
    Sissoko

    Think moussa will shake off the tag of poor mans yaya toure and become big mousse all by himself. Just need pards to play him in the middle.
    Santon left wing will work, have a feeling we will see it soon.
    Anita has to play, this lad has intelligence, something our team lacks. Our balance is always better when he is in there.
    Debuchy just needs to relax a touch and will have a great season.
    Marvaux needs more time, everyone can see it. Could do very well.
    Finally pardew needs to rotate players, all the managers do it. Has to be ruthless we cant have cabaye nearly collapsing after 50 mins again. Please percy have faith in your squad you play the same team with the same plan, we have been worked out, mix it up man. Morale, fitness and results will follow

  • 222 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:02 PM

    Microbar

    We only need 2-3 signings in my opinion to be confident of a top 10 place.

    I don’t really care much for Gomis never have, even if he signed tomorrow I would be like Meh atleast its a signing.

    Remy is quality, he is a player we could use but it goes with a risk.

    Bent is past his best, he scored goals in the past but so did Kluivert before joining us and at that point he was past it. Bent has lost his pace and Cisse is a better fox in the box. 6m no thank you.

    Right now I would take

    Remy
    Wjnadlum

    And would be pretty happy with that.

    I would cream my pants if we managed Remy, Wjnadlum, and De Jong but De Jong already stated he is staying in Ajax, although that means exactly zero these days.

    Just wave an extra 20k a week his way and he will soon reiterate his status!

  • 223 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:02 PM

    Pawl,
    Pretty much either shows your twisting of facts or ignorance, although definitely not a powerhouse of European football they managed to get to a Euro final where they lost to Forest, so a few bloggers will have heatd of them.

  • 224 Elmanio // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:02 PM

    Althoug AP does have a contract with many provisions in it to sack him with 12 months salary so far non of them can be activated.

    MA knows this and is very annoyed so brought in JK to be his eyes and ears and potentially unsettle AP.

    On the sale issue he has turned down three offers in the last 12 months the last of which was declined in early July. He will sell when the offer meets his valuation – last offer was 350 million.

    Through various company routes MA make a substantial income from NUFC & will continue to do so. He is more than willing to invest in transfers but there is a policy in place which will be followed.

    I guess many of you may doubt the above comments – fair enough but if you check my occasional posts you will see I do have contacts

    Do not forget he is a double billionaire and counting

  • 225 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:02 PM

    @ Pawl

    Beats getting played off the park twice by Brighton . Is it any coincidence Laudrupp won a trophy within a year playing that style of football ? .

  • 226 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:03 PM

    In regards to the defence, It will be alot better next season so long as it is consistent. We are still a little short at right back but Anita can slot in there if needed. I’d prefer a right back to come in if needed but the way things are going in the transfer window, say no more.

    We fielded 7-8 centre back partnerships last season aswell as multiple full backs through injuries. This is never good and was our major problem on the field.

    The season we finished 5th shows what can be accomplished and how important that factor of consistency is.

  • 227 NUFC FOR SALE // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:03 PM

    Liverpool bid 21 million for costa
    Spurs 26 million for selgardo

    Nufc penny pinching to get strikers for less than 10 million

    I’ve tried to kiss myself that Ashley is doing the right thing… spending correct money but enough is enough

    He’s clearly not interested in this club doing anything.

    It really is time for the fat cockney w@nker to f##k off out of our club….. is so sad to see spurs get so far away from where we are right now. :(

  • 228 yo-yo // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    Prodigy

    We still shipped loads of goals finishing fifth

  • 229 colwell // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    pawl250

    I think you’ll find most people on here will know who Malmo are, football snobbery at its best.

  • 230 daztoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:05 PM

    Pawl your pretty sad if you didn’t enjoy the football Laudrup had Swansea playing tonight against a team that once reached a euro final

  • 231 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:05 PM

    JFA

    I bet 80-90% did not even know that!

    Its not bending the truth or plain ignorance, you need only look where Nottingham Forest are these days and compare how much times have changed.

    It would be like stating Derby are amazing under Clough so they are now.

    Twist it how you will never heard of them. Probably will not see their name again after next weeks 2nd leg.

    Just my two cents.

  • 232 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:05 PM

    Yo Yo,

    We also kept 15 clean sheets, you don’t finish 5th in the league with a poor defence.

  • 233 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:07 PM

    Mike Ashley responding to Lyon asking £10 million for Gomis :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ

  • 234 croftus5678 // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:07 PM

    can someone explain to me why its so funny to wind up fans of your own team and upset them ?

    you would have thought that with all the talk about jk demoralising players by calling them names and ashley dont give a t*&s about fans ect that the wind up merchants was just the same as those !

  • 235 yo-yo // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:09 PM

    The clean sheets are great for sure – but spuds / norwich and fulham away sort of showed we are totally inconsistent and lose concentration. Those three games were 13 goals against. Three games conceding four or more in a season is not quality defending

  • 236 Mister Tuff // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:12 PM

    I’ve certainly known about Malmo for years – pawl slightly elitist type comment if you don’t mind me saying.

  • 237 Ted Bundy // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:13 PM

    Pawl

    Speak for yourself, you dilettante.

  • 238 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:13 PM

    Pawl
    Of course most know who Malmo are don’t De ridiculous
    It’s also a Europa qualifier, seem to remember us struggling against atromitos

  • 239 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:14 PM

    Pawl,
    There you go with the assumptions again a lot of football fans study facts and as there are a lot of football fans on here I think you might be way out with that statistic.

  • 240 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:14 PM

    On the contrary if you believe Swansea will dominate teams like that in the PL good for you.

    I feel they won’t, they may dominate possession because most teams let them play it amongst their back 4.

    Best way to play Swansea is play high up the field pressurising the defence who are not comfortable under pressure. Forcing the long ball game. Martin ONeil showed this when playing Swansea he basically nailed the tactics.

    As for Malmo, sorry but I was not alive when they played in the Euopean Cup final, and call it ignorance but I do not care about the past. Its in the past, all that matters is when I have been alive and what I experienced. I never seen Newcastle win a trophy, I don’t celebrate something that happeneded before my time.

    It adds history to a club but its history, not soemthing I was part of.

    It is ignorance I admit, but its how I feel. I don’t get family trees, or Liverpool thinking they deserve to win the PL cos they were dominant in the past, why? Because they are not now and the people are dead in the family tree. Simple.

    I don’t live in the past, I live in the present and get excited about the future. Although admittedly in NUFC case nowt to get excited about right now as we are a mid table club.

  • 241 croftus5678 // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    @pawl

    ye..i..er…also know and was aware of them :-)

    not gonna get on your case though as imo even though it was a very hopeful and positive comment ! there is a hell of a lot of negative (inc myself atm) that it needs to be balanced just a little lol.

  • 242 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    Yo Yo,

    Every defence will ship goals now and again. Man U and Arsenal shipped 3 each against us on their own turf.

    15 clean sheets for us was excellent.

    If your looking for a flawless defence, you will be looking for a while mate.

    Over the course of the season we were brilliant when finishing 5th.

    Colo got Football Writers’ north-east Player of the Year for 2011 and got into the Premier League team of the season.

  • 243 ginola_tonic // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    Wilfred bony just scored two goals for Swansea. How much did he cost them btw?

    Really is depressing :( scraping the bottom of the barrell with reject strikers. Just hoping cisse shows his old form this season.

  • 244 Uncertain Toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    Was Roy Hodgson not Malmo manager a while back and i’m sure Zlatan played for them early doors in his career.
    Aye, never heard of them!!!

  • 245 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:18 PM

    Yo yo

    We had the best defence in the league up to early December when we played Chelsea and Colo and STaylor got injured.

    Then we played Norwich with the likes of Simpson at centre back against Holt and Morrsions and conceded 3 headers…. Or Fulham conceding 5 in 1 game…. Or Spurs were we didn’t even start playing until we were 3-4 down.

    Again it all started when Williamson came on the pitch. He’s a standard back up but hardly a rock.

    I believe consistency was the key in the early stages of the 5th finish season. We got alot of points early doors, Ba was on form and our defence and keeper were solid.

    Its important to get a good start, like Swansea and West Brom did last year it stopped them
    Slipping into the relegation battle despite both dropping for 2nd half of the season.

  • 246 Uncertain Toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    Why does Stefan Schwartz and Martin Dahlin spring to mind?

  • 247 daztoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:23 PM

    Why are people still harping on about finishing 5th.We never built on it and paid the price last season and Pardumb was found out big style as he was like a rabbit in headlights most of the games

  • 248 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:23 PM

    Did I really just call a defence of

    Simpson – STaylor – Colo – RTaylor

    Solid?

    Although we did work hard as a unit, Jonas, Tiote and Cabaye worked extremely hard.

    Obertan on the other hand …… I mean he even kept Ben Arfa out of the team cos he did not work for the team… Not that Obertan did!!

    Never got that like.

  • 249 croftus5678 // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:23 PM

    come jan transfer window we need to be signing players for next season imo i.e. a decent cb or 2 and a few wingers and a keeper !

    it may seem over the top but if we refuse to sign players for their full value at the start of the season we must be on the ball in the middle of it so they can gel.

  • 250 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:24 PM

    Pawl,
    It is people like you that are trying to convince yourself and others that we are “just” a mid table club.

  • 251 Thump // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:26 PM

    I’ve heard from pretty much everywhere that we’ve agreed terms with Remy… so not entirely sure what to think of this.

  • 252 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:27 PM

    Obnoxious turd we are a lower table club. Were you looking at last seasons table upside down?

  • 253 valle // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:27 PM

    Where did all the ITK’s go? Starved to death?

  • 254 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:27 PM

    Daztoon

    Why are people harping on about Malmo in the 70′s or early 80′s comparing them to now …..

    Lol

    Atleast 5th was 2 years ago!

    Have Malmo made the group stages anytime in RECENT history? …. Just curious?

    Yet I am the ignorant one for not hearing about them (or caring) ….

  • 255 Sazzer // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    I think not getting 2 m Michu last summer was a bigger mistake then not getting 12 m Bony this summer.

  • 256 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    Some one suggested earlier that Pawl was not liked due to the length of his posts
    I think there dead wrong, pretty sure it’s do with the shamefully condescending attitude and the assumption that 90% of the blog seem to be some kind of bumpkins who have never heard of teams who play outside the premier league

  • 257 manxpie // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    why do people give credit to laudropp for swanseas playing style its been like that for years there only ever problem that has been constant is they never could get or afford top strikers!

  • 258 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    Pawl,
    Nobody but nobody is comparing Swedens biggest club with the team that got to a European cup final thirty years ago that is not the point, you said 80/90% of the people who use this blog have not heard of them.

  • 259 daztoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    Pawl
    If you knew anything about football you would have heard of Malmo in Europe more than we are.Far better opposition than we played in the qualifying round and we struggled.

  • 260 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    Consistency is a factor massively under used on this blog, last season it played a big part in our under achievements. People tend to look at Pardew and tactics but it goes far beyond that.

    That goes for the midfield aswell, not just the defence.

    There is no doubt we will do better next season with a consistent starting eleven playing an ample amount of games together. Last season was a one off where injuries are concerned and we also have players ready to step in unlike the first part of last season up until Christmas.

    Without two strikers brought in through this window though, the five signings from January may aswell be rendered useless.

    It’s no good being ok in midfield without the quality in depth upfront. Couple of injuries in that department and we will see a run like we did last year over Christmas.

    We lacked goals from January through until the summer because of Ba’s departure and it put us under huge pressure.

    An injury to Cisse would of seen us relegated.

    Silly gamble buy the board room which nearly seen us relegated.

  • 261 manxpie // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:34 PM

    tads to be fair there still shit wether you’ve heard of them or not

  • 262 Toon73 // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    There are no ITK’s, only JFK who’s at the bakery woofing scones and jam.

  • 263 Uncertain Toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    Pawl,

    You’re not ignorant for not knowing Malmo,
    you are arrogant and condescending for presuming these fine bloggers do not! Might want to read ya own stories pal!

  • 264 manxpie // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    we did play our reserves in the 1st leg if i remember rightly

  • 265 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    Manxpie
    That’s not really the point he was making though was it
    And there a damn sight better than atromitos, who we stuttered past

  • 266 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    JFA

    Convince myself?

    2012/13 – 16th

    2011/12 – 5th

    2010/11 – 11th

    2009/10 – 1st CHAMPIONSHIP DIVISION

    2008/09 – 18th

    2007/08 – 12th

    2006/07 – 13th

    2005/06 – 7th

    2004/05 – 14th

    2003/04 – 5th

    2002/03 – 3rd

    2001/02 – 4th

    2000/01 – 11th

    1999/00 – 11th

    1998/99 – 13th

    Aye cos our history shows we are a TOP TOP club mate?!

    And people call us deluded for a reason man…. look at our club, look at the past finishes in RECENT TIME, look at the amount of trophies we have won in my life time (BIG FAT ZERO) and ultimately it means we are a mid table side. WHY? because according to the above apart from about 5 seasons (1 as recent as 2 years ago that people like to dis acknowledge, but love to remember finishing in similar positions under Sir Bobby) we have been a MID TABLE club.

    FACT!

  • 267 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:39 PM

    Uncertain Toon

    Fair play, I have already said I am ignorant.

    I have no quarrel admitting it. I am honest in what I think, and what I say thats all. Its how I feel, or think and if people dont like it meh dont care…..

    Ignorance….. again!

  • 268 Tommyy // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    Watching Swansea had depressed me greatly. We will never play like that under Pardew – ever. Also those saying Malmo aren’t a strong side/it’s no indication of actual skill level bla bla bla. Well we struggle to get the ball moving slickly against scot teams the equivalent of league 1 at best! Malmo are a far stronger side than any we’ve played in pre – seasons and we looked nowhere near as good as Swansea in any of them.

    Who do you guys’ think is the worst manager in the Premier Legue now? I reckon Holloway shortly followed by Pardew/Bruce and possibly Mackay?

  • 269 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    Pawl,
    As you probably know I am more than aware of those stats we are one of only six teams currently in the PL that have played in the CL twice and are currently the 20th richest in the world, despite having a history of choosing the wrong managers we are a big club.

  • 270 manxpie // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:43 PM

    i know tads but there’s been some wanking over swansea tonite and they had there full team out against a shit swedish side

  • 271 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:43 PM

    Daztoon

    As someone who grew up on Fifa, and FM during my teen, like literally battering them.

    I have not heard of Malmo, and will be shocked to actually hear of them again after the 2nd leg.

    Just saying mate, didnt even know the exist. Atleast am honest.

    Anyone can type the club into google these days and behold they are an expert….. me well I do not.

    I mean Atromitis last year …. I was like WHO THE …?! I am not ashamed to not know Swedish, Greek teams, I know what I need to know, and I would say am pretty knowledgeable on current football.

    Maybe not as much as I should be in comparison to some fountains of knowledges (*cough* wiki *cough*) on here.

  • 272 WWYCD // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:43 PM

    What?! QPR want money for easily their best striker?!?! What has the world come too!

    Depressingly naive is how I’d describe our transfer business thus far

  • 273 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    Deluded little turd @266! Who are Kinnear?

  • 274 manxpie // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    i know tads but theres been some w anking off over swansea tonight playing there full strength team against a shit team from sweden lol

  • 275 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    JFA -

    We are a rich club? and we have played in the CL? thats your foundation LMAO!

    I also never said we weren’t a BIG club, I said we are a mid table club!

    Because that is were we will finish this year, and have finished the majority of the last 20 years …..

    Keep twisting things to your own imagination pal.

  • 276 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:48 PM

    Yo…did you ever think Joke would know what he was doing let alone Mike? :-D lol

  • 277 daztoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:48 PM

    Pawl yeah I agree your knowledge is limited and you should probably stick to playing FIFA and stop putting up endless lists of drivel that we already know

  • 278 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:49 PM

    Kinnear and obnoxious little turd are both the same Nutters.

  • 279 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:49 PM

    Manx
    Still playing better than us against shite teams from Portugal/Scotland
    Of course people are annoyed, you really think we’re going to be anywhere that level of fitness, match sharpness? Playing with chemistry and rhythm anywhere near that level?

  • 280 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    i think we wont sign any of them now ti be honest…. problem is no backup targets….

    i swear feel like supporting another club sometimes… :-/

    so sickening…. feels like we are frozen in time….hope somebody comes buys us and awakens us…

  • 281 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    Well Pawl,
    I didn’t grow up on Fifa, but with an interest in the game both playing and watching, I too had never heard of Atromotis but can guarantee you that although only 41 years of age I would have known if they had of been European finalists in 1958 without using Google.

  • 282 north_country_boy // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:51 PM

    Heard rumours of Adam Campbell going out on loan, which is what he needs – hope this means someone is lined up as a replacement in the squad (not holding my breath mind – would be dangerous where Ashley is concerned!)

  • 283 jimmysmith // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:51 PM

    Malmo are a famous European name because of those heroics way back when, but I’d have them backed to be down before Christmas in the EPL, none of which matters as we already know from the past two seasons that Swansea are a much better passing side than us and we need a Rodgers or a Laudrup at St James, but we ain’t gonna get one.

  • 284 daztoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:51 PM

    Maybe it’s people just appreciate good football when it’s played as apposed to our hoof ball

  • 285 manxpie // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:51 PM

    wwycd yeah but a certain police matter puts the shit in the fan on any full transfer and rightly so imo
    its not our fault he’s got into that situation and we’d be stupid to make it our problem with a full transfer

  • 286 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    Daztoon -

    Thank you for your sound advice….

    BUT my reply is simply …. MAKE ME STOP COMMENTING!

    I have just as much right as you to post on this blog, now who is being ignorant?!

    Step of your high horse mate, I bet I know more about current football than you can ever dream of. I probably know of players you can’t even pronounce.

    I knew about Mbiwa YEARS ago, he is one of the players I followed for years. I bet you googled him upon a link on this site.

    As stated step off your high horse mate….. you do not know EVERY club in Europe…. FACT!

  • 287 Uncertain Toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    Pawl,

    I must admit, i didn’t have a scoobie who Atromitis were and probably still don’t!

  • 288 Tommyy // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    Be interesting to see how we play against Braga at home. They’re better than Malmo (Not a massive amount in it) and we should be playing our full strength team.

    My prediction is a win but a horrible hard fought one with no real quality on offer from us.

  • 289 stuart no9 // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    on the remy front — it serves ashley right for being such a tight ba”’d !

  • 290 WWYCD // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    jesper
    Honestly yeah ur right
    Planted all our eggs in the PEA basket knowing full well out chances were extremely slim
    Ignored Lyons consistent price tag for Gomis and moaned when they didn’t drop it
    Expected QPR to loan us their best player cos well I have no idea why we think that will work
    And then there’s the Bent embarrassment which is to cringe worthy to even mention…the summer of JFK everyone (I’ve left out the various holidays out of kindness)

  • 291 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    JFA

    You avoid the mid table response…. probably because you know you were incorrect in saying something I didnt say.

    Also I played on Fifa in my TEENS! That was 5-6 year ago (nearly 26…. I do not proclaim to know every final in EL history…. nor do I care simply because I never supported Notts Forrest… or any other team beside Newcastle…..

    I do not care who gets to the final on a yearly basis if it is not my team. Simple….

    Most recent history I do normally, just as its in the news etc…. but before I was born I am somewhat clueless about such things simply because its irrelevant and I do not care.

  • 292 WWYCD // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:56 PM

    manxpie
    Don’t disagree but expecting them to loan us him isn’t exactly smart thinking imo I don’t think our management team know how to deal with more than one deal at a time or in a time effective manner

  • 293 daztoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:56 PM

    Pawl you can do what you want I don’t really give a shit to be honest and you didn’t even know who Malmo were so pretty much proves already I know more than you lol

  • 294 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    Manx,
    Where do you get that people were bigging up Swansea to the extent you say, they put in a good solid performance their two main men scored three between them and debutant AM scored a pearler and had a good chance, pretty much dominated the game, not they spent 20M in preperation of this campaign, , it’s not difficult to make comparisons against the team that spent fusk all and stuttered through against Greek giants Atromotis.

  • 295 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    Pawl
    Club history is irrelevant?

    Just wow

  • 296 manxpie // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    tads yeah i do when it becomes competative! we’ve played lots of players in PRE-SEASON games!
    we’ve got a good set of players ya know??
    but this doom and gloom is actually funny now!
    swansea play there full team against a very poor team and now there ahead of us and we’ve at least lost 1 place to them because we didn’t beat our shit opposition 4-0 LAST season?
    lets see how they do against man u thats wat matters really

  • 297 plana // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    Obnoxious little turd@294!

  • 298 WWYCD // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:01 PM

    JfA
    I think u have a fan

  • 299 Uncertain Toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    WWYCD,

    The Remy thing is quite bizarre, we want a loan with an option to buy to safeguard ourselves against him doin bird and QPR want to sell even though he could do bird! Has to be a compromise somewhere, paying all his wages maybe if on loan, weird situation.
    One thing i do know though floppy chops is full of it if he thinks a club is goin to stump up whatever amount for someone who could do bird!

  • 300 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:06 PM

    Daztoon -

    As ever you are correct you know sooooo much more (sarcasm) than me.

    You know about things that happened over 26 years ago…. and if you do fair play anything before then your knowledge is better than mine as mine is as stated limited.

    I do not care about the past before I was born, I know snippets, I know Notts Forrest won the Cup, BUT I hand on heart did not know Malmo was the opposition, atleast I can admit it.

    You on the other hand proclaim to know more about me in recent times and present football and players….. I highly doubt it. That is not big headed, I have followed the likes of Cisse, and Mbiwa, Sissoko for years I live and breathe MODERN football, I watch most of the foreign games, any that I can record anyway.

    I pretty much know who I would like to buy if it were me in charge, players I feel would improve the team.

    BUT its not me buying or choosing who to buy.

    I have seen enough of Gomis to not really be excited about buying him, and enough to say he is not worth 10m, even without a year remaining on his contract!

    He may thrive in the PL he is in many ways a poor mans Drogba, but he is lazy, he is not even half the player Drogba is. That is my opinion, and opinion people can choose to accept or not, but on the basis I have watched games, seen him play on several occasions, and yet I bet others (possibly even you) have not seen much of him.

    Therefore it gives me every right, if not more so the right to comment on what I think of Gomis simply because I didnt youtube him.

    As stated past football… before my team hats off to you, you know more than me for sure. Enjoy the past. I live in the now though, I do not go searching small clubs when they play Swansea in the EL to see their history, simply because…. they do not interest me.

    Swansea won 4-0 tonight whoooop de dooo…. Where will Malmo finish in the PL? …… probably relegation …. that is all.

  • 301 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:07 PM

    Manx
    You think that we have somehow overtaken them since last season

  • 302 geordie157 // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:08 PM

    Never seen so much use of the word turd on the blog, bring back the itk’s

  • 303 WWYCD // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:08 PM

    Uncertain Toon
    All fair points but the club know full well this is a huge issue why don’t they go for a different player?

  • 304 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:10 PM

    Pawl,
    I pretty much laid out my reasons as to why I think we’re more than a mid table club despite league standings so not avoiding your question, and your football knowledge is great because you knew who Mbwia was, no doubt to playing FM,I once knew who Dexter Blacklock and Like Varney were when scouting for Hartlepool

  • 305 BandB // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:10 PM

    My dear fellow bloggists.

    This site is clearly infested right now with people who are filling in their time pulling your plonkers.
    Most of them have emerged from nowhere.
    Do they sound like the usual newbies, hopeful they can put their point across without being ignored or shouted down?
    They have the advantage of being anonymous. And because we are also anomymous, they can indulge in flat-out abuse without any consequences.
    It’s absolutely their right to get off in this way. But why are dozens of bloggers I respect and enjoy reading pandering to them?

  • 306 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    WWYCD,

    Steady on mate, that would require some initiative and planning for that to happen ;)

  • 307 browny // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    Oh my god what a surprise even i new they were only willing to sell this player this club is a joke blood out of a stone all the time he can score goals pay the money Ashley sick sick sick

  • 308 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    TADS

    Too me as arrogant as it is…. yes.

    Does it matter Sunderland won a trophy in 1973, or we won the Fairs cup in 1969 ….

    NOPE….. because its the past and well I did not come of age look on the internet or be told and then go on a celebration spree because we won a cup in 1969 …. It was like… ah thats cool …. where and what is my team doing now…..

    Its all about now….

    Would you have taken winning the PL once in the last 20 years and be in the Championship, or worse (Leeds) instead of being constantly in the PL today?

    I wonder if you Leeds fans if they would prefer to be in the PL in trade of a cup of the past if they would take it?

    I do not know …. i would imagine some would.

    If I offered you now… PL football next season like 2014/15 or FA Cup and relegation what would you choose?

    Not a bad question…. I would choose PL though… why? Because the gap in the next 4-5 years between the PL and Champtionship will only grow and then you are really not around to see your team play the best on a weekly basis.

    Thats me though.

  • 309 daztoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:12 PM

    Pawl I’m 45 so i was following the Toon before you we’re even born.I didn’t spend my youth playing FIFA or Football Manager so I don’t know every player and get my info from there.
    I don’t brag I know everything about football but then again I don’t make stupid comments like 90% of people won’t know who Malmo are so wind yer neck in.

  • 310 WWYCD // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    Toon-Prodigy
    I know I always expect too much don’t I

  • 311 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    WW…,
    I think he is a mega fan !

  • 312 daztoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    @jail
    At least he keeps it short but sweet lol

  • 313 manxpie // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    jail they did play well against a shit team and i don’t disagree at all about the way they invested and we didn’t
    but the facts are we played a reserve team in our 1st euro game so then ya can’t say there doin much better because they’ve battered them
    you could just say the same about motherwell we smashed them 4-2 away there in europe ya know?
    it’s rubbish but i suppose it carries on the doom n gloom on here doesn’t it?

  • 314 WWYCD // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:17 PM

    JfA
    Haha well enjoy it mate it may only be a fleeting phase he’ll probably start throwing his knickers at another poster soon ;)

  • 315 Uncertain Toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:17 PM

    WWYCD,

    I here you mate, maybe that list of targets wasn’t/isn’t as extensive as we were led to believe. Aye, where is plan B? seems like disorganised chaos!

  • 316 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:17 PM

    WWYCD,

    It’s a dangerous game expecting common sence with this regime.

    On a brighter note. Top Gun has just started :)

  • 317 geordie157 // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:18 PM

    Any strikers out there that haven’t been linked that we could realistically sign?

  • 318 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:18 PM

    JFA

    We are not a mid table club despite finishing mid table on a consistent basis?

    Because we are rich, 20th as of last season probably not anymore and we have played in the CL twice….. LOL

    O.K

    Mbiwa was one of many I could use as an example…. I watched him play from being a teenager for Montpellier…. not FM…. again assumptions and twisting words.

    I seen Kompany in the for Belgium, he was pretty unknown at the time and I made sure I watched as many Anderlecht and Hamburg games as I could as the quality oozed from him…. I remember talking to people in SJP stands telling them we should buy him now as he will be one of the best centre backs in the world…. I was told I was being optimistic and unrealistic…. 6m Man City paid for him…. and he is one of the best, if not arguably thee best in the world.

    Another example.

    I could name thousands of names, I have spouted over the years, only for them to go on and be massive for mere buttons.

  • 319 manxpie // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:20 PM

    soz wwycd just seen ya reply i agree but i think it really is the only way to go on a situation like this the coppers really need to pull there finger out really i mean there’s football involved here :)

  • 320 WWYCD // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:20 PM

    Uncertain Toon
    Seems our huge list comprises of 4 names and none of them we are trying our hardest to get…scouting team have let us down on that side if thats right and management team well less said about them the better

    Really sick tbh maybe time for my customary transfer window hiatus

  • 321 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:21 PM

    Band B,
    I think I have seen through most of them, do you think pawl can be added to the list ?

  • 322 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    Ok not thousands, thats exaggerated, but quite a few….

  • 323 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:23 PM

    Pawl
    That’s your choice, personally think its very very sad that you can’t be arsed or interested to immerse your self in your clubs history

    Can’t understand your disinterest in the fantastic history of NUFC

    You seem to also forget that tradition is a massive part of football and the evolution of the game

    Scouting players on sky+ and FM doesn’t mean you know more about the modern game though

  • 324 WWYCD // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    Toon-Prodigy
    Haha top gun

    manxpie
    No worries mate. Again I don’t disagree but why aren’t we after other targets until we know what’s going on with Remy (I personally highly doubt much will come of his case but who knows) its why other teams aren’t touching him but we are openly courting him…time wasting perhaps?

  • 325 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    TADS

    I know about future players, I watch the modern game. More so than most on this blog.

    I stream some games I cannot watch in an attempt to watch football. I live and breathe it.

    Some people cherish the past, I cherish what I have lived through and what I do presently or the future.

    Some people find history fascinating, I do simply see it for what it is. The past. You cannot re live or change it so why be engrossed in it.

    The players of the modern game, are the modern game. It would be naive to think otherwise.

    You watch the game for the players playing on the pitch, the clubs pay millions for players and fans demands like we are now players.

    The modern game is all about players. If you do not know the modern upcoming and current players, then you cannot say you know about the modern game.

    My opinion. I am pretty confident I know more about modern players and the game than most on this blog.

    Some of you remind me of my dad. He is a lovely man I greatly cherish and respect, but he is clueless about players. I would get excited over a player we are linked to and he would be like who?!

    Most people in my dads generation simply know players when they come in the PL…. and then think they know everything about football.

  • 326 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    Manx,
    You may well call that a reserve team against Atromotis but that was basically the team that Pardew got told he would have to mix up the EL and PL, can you imagine the difference Remy, even Gouffran, Debuchy and Douglas would have made to a team full of confidence !

  • 327 daztoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:31 PM

    The main thing about the Swansea game is the professional manner they showed and the respect they gave to the competition.
    I wouldn’t expect anything less from Laudrup

  • 328 BandB // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:31 PM

    Jail.

    Both Pawl and TDS both frequently use the phrase LOL to get across their contempt for you or anyone else that hopes we haven’t actually become a small, mid-table club.
    They seem to find the very notion that some of us dare to consider our club one with a proud history and a future, offensive.
    LOL means Laugh out Loud, I believe. I’m not laughing out loud at the current situation. Are you?

  • 329 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:31 PM

    Does anyone know if their is a limit on the Newcastle website to how many tickets one person can buy?!

  • 330 manxpie // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:32 PM

    yeah wwycd (i still have to say it all to spell it lol!) its the same for me would love him here though would really give us some much needed options upfront
    but the same as the kinnear thing surely he should have been brought in well before the transfer window to actually do his job shambles comes to mind

  • 331 JackButler // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    Nice to see we are all getting along and are loved up to the max :D

  • 332 yo-yo // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    Our defence has performed pretty badly over the last ten years – even in the fifth finish in 2012 when we finished fifth with a GD of only +5 about 10 goals adrift in GD from the teams directly above AND below us.

    Our away goals against have traditionally been pretty poor most seasons. Our weak defence is a longstanding problem. I don’t care whether people blame Willo, Simmo, or anyone else – we don’t have enough strength in depth, discipline or concentration – and it still needs improving on the 2012 season.

    TOON GOALS AGAINST – EPL average is usually about 50

    2013 – 68
    2012 – 51 GD +5
    2011 – 57
    2010 – xx
    2009 – 59
    2008 – 65
    2007 – 47
    2006 – 42
    2005 – 57
    2003 – 48

    We have only had three years in ten with a better goals against than the league average.

  • 333 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:34 PM

    Pawl,
    I bet he’s gutted about you !

  • 334 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:34 PM

    Ahh, being a 80s and 90s kid, I couldn’t miss out on an old classic such as Top Gun.

  • 335 Uncertain Toon // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:35 PM

    WWYCD,

    Aye, would be interesting to know who exactly was/is on that list! If all the players we’ve been linked with are genuine(wouldn’t like to guess) then Carr must think how many potential players do they want and why can’t they sign one! Having said that it looks like he’s blowing cobwebs of old files with that Erdinc bloke!

  • 336 Crow59 // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:35 PM

    I heard Joe Mceldrey is our only likely target :(

  • 337 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:35 PM

    Band B,
    I thought it meant that you loved me lots
    :(

  • 338 manxpie // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    jail ya got the wrong end of the stick mate last summer turned me from a fan who was still excited with wat ashley was gonna do esp after our 5th finish to the polar opposite i wished n wished all summer that we were gonna strengthen but nothing
    my argument tonight is that people are using 1 game (swansea) to say how shit we are lol

  • 339 yo-yo // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    pawl

    There is a theory about holes which you ought to know and understand.

    When you are in one – as you are now on this blog through your displays of rank arrogance, know-it-all petulance and demeaning other bloggers.

    STOP DIGGING.

  • 340 WWYCD // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    manxpie
    Haha it has to get into ur head somehow

    Yeah mate it just depresses me atm and I see no light at the end of this tunnel even if we get Remy and Gomis imo it’s not enough to get us competitive for top 6 or even 8 which I hate thinking. And on that note am off have a good one fellow mags

  • 341 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    BandB

    We are not laughing at the club….

    We are laughing like the majority of the nation laughs when we are labelled “deluded” fans and yet the likes of you and JFA get offended for the label.

    Yet do not realise my merely not accepting the club has in recent times finished mid table consistently across nearly 20 years with the exception of a handful of seasons…. and then our “deluded” fans state we are a top club…..

    3 years ago we were in the Championship …. that is not a top club…. that is a club progressing from turmoil. Mid table is acceptable right now… I want and hope we eventually improve further in the upcoming years (say 6 years) into a CL competing side….

    Its not out the realms of possibility buts its a gradual step of improvement…. or atleast I hope it is.

    Without any improvement (i.e. now) we are a mid table side, mid table is generally 6th to 14th I would say.

    The likelyhood is we will finish between 8th and 14th this season. Thats mid table.

    We then laugh (at likes of you) because you argue that we are a top side, or deserve to be top side (you deserve to be top side when you are and finish as one) when we finish mid table.

  • 342 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    Yo yo

    O.K …. Whatever you said *nods*

  • 343 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    Band B,
    On a serious note, when a poster is saying if Mashley pockets the extra TV money then fair play to him he needs to pay off the debt,you have to ask yourself, is he/she on a wind up ?

  • 344 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    Pawl
    No offence but that post is the biggest load of bull ever to be written on here

    You know about players? Aye right you are, you mean if they play in the top 3 of the main leagues in Europe!!!
    All about players, how about up and coming managers? No? Is that because you can’t scout managers on FM?

    I’m sorry but you absolutely NO idea what others on this blog know all you have is your opinion, that doesn’t give you more of a right to comment as previously stated

  • 345 manxpie // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    btw i still believe we’ve got a great team but we do need at least a striker n a lw
    so not all doom n gloom is it?

  • 346 BandB // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    Pawl,

    Spurs fan..

  • 347 daztoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    Pawl your in the know you should know how many tickets you can get shouldn’t you

  • 348 BandB // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:42 PM

    Pawl,

    And you can laugh at “the likes of me as much as you like.
    You are a creep.

  • 349 yo-yo // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:42 PM

    pawl @ 432

    Pity about the attitude problem – some of your posts were reasonably well put – if a bit wordy.

  • 350 WWYCD // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:42 PM

    Uncertain Toon
    Fells rude leaving without replying

    I doubt we will ever know what our scouting network passes on to Kinnear but I’d imagine its a lot more than 4 names but that could just be blind faith in Carr who knows. Haha Erdinc it did raise a smile when I saw that link again haha I still know sod all about him :D

    Have a good one lad

  • 351 Jail for Ashley // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    Pawl,
    And who are “we” exactly, would that be the rest of wearside by any chance ?

  • 352 daztoon // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    @BandB
    No he’s just a boy who needs to grow up

  • 353 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    The fact is Lauddrup has the likes of Routledge & Dyer playing good football on the floor and how it should be played. I remember watching them play numerous teams off the park including Arsenal.

    And we have genuine top players (many of them quality internationals) but get outplayed by reading at home. Imagine what Lauddrup could do with HBA, Sissoko & Cabaye

  • 354 yo-yo // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    or even 342 …. time for bed said zebeedee

  • 355 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    JFA

    He is very proud of me thanks for asking…….

    Can you not tell that people like you cannot bully me, or phase me. This is because I am a confident person, honest and doing well in life without going into detail you mean nothing to me. You are merely a random on a blog, no offence intended as I am the same to you.

    Why should he not be proud of me though? ….. you will most likely attempt answer of sarcasm but it only shows what kind of a person you really are at attempting lame, and pathetic jokes for your age.

    Perhaps for a 25 year old, its acceptable to be arrogant, ignorant I am living, and learning my way through life right now. As is every other young adult.

  • 356 paul24 // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    I dont know why i bother with hoping any more. It’s easier to just expect them to do f**k all then when the season starts it’s not a shock when we’ve signed no one.

  • 357 yo-yo // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    BPC

    More worrying is that Swansea have listened to their manager and strengthened, as have Southampton and even Norwich. None of these are wealthy clubs.

    As the man said – if you stand still in the EPL you go backward…

  • 358 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    JFA

    Look at BandB post… read it. THEN read my response…

    You will see he mentions me and TDS…. hence we.

    As usual your delusions, imagination and assumptions create something you only wish is the case….

  • 359 Thump // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    yo-yo @ 332 pretty much shot you down, pawl. I respect your opinion and will defend your right to express it to the death… but in this instance, knowledge is power and, truthfully, you don’t have a whole lot of it in this situation.

  • 360 BandB // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:53 PM

    Sorry, Pawl

    I apologize.
    I meant to say you are a verbose, ignorant, charmless, adolescent, thin-skinned, bleating to Ed, Spurs-supporting, fraud.
    Hope that clears things up.

  • 361 pawl250 // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    TADS

    Its assumption granted….

    I do not own or owned FM since 2006 maybe… possibly 2007.

    I watch as much football as possible, granted in the top leagues but I stay away from the big boys, simply because they have already got players discovered and cost millions.

    I look for young prospects that excite me as a football fan.

    Mbiwa I have watched for many years, he is not in a top club, granted a couple years ago they won the French League, but for the first time ever I believe it was.

    Toulouse I mean they have some cracking players…. Capoue has recently been linked to Cardiff…. 8m is a bargain for him.

    Sissoko, I have watched him for years. He is in my opinion a better player in his more natural box to box position.

    WHICH is why I suggested signing Siem De Jong as I feel he is creative, good in the air. I have watched him many times for Ajax and believe he would suit the PL.

    Bony tonight, I think will score goals, but he like Cisse requires those around them to do all the work. Swansea would suit his style of play, we would not …. simple.

    I do not proclaim to know everything, just I watch alot of football, and sometimes I pick out players and keep a very close eye on them.

    Its interesting to see them grow as a player. This is one of my interests, but by doing so I have a valid opinion on alot of unknown players that people youtube, when I have watched them for many years.

  • 362 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 1, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    Im wrapping in for tonight and going to get some work done.

    MENTAL on here tonight lads.

    Enjoy,

  • 363 pawl250 // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:01 AM

    BandB

    Yes I am a Spurs fan sitting and consistently chatting about Newcastle and their team for about 2 years now….. :S

    Seriously where do you dream this stuff up?!

    Just bemuses me. Is this ALS now where everyone who has a different opinion is a Mag?

    BandB sorry but your opinion of me, means nothing to me. Thanks for the description though, I’ll add it to my CV for future reference ;)

  • 364 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:02 AM

    @ pawl

    I don’t see any problem feeling disheartened watching Swansea play good football no matter who the opposition are.

    I think there are only a few occasions under Pardew when we have played the other team off the park yet Swansea do it regularly with worse players.

    How many of their players would get in our team ? , I would probably say Michu & Williams. I long for the day to go to St. James’ and see slick one two’s between Cabaye, HBA & Sissoko with passing moves that last more than 10 seconds before being lumped up field.

    We are so much better than that.

  • 365 BandB // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    Pawlie…

    Excellent.
    Yay!
    I hope your improved CV helps you gain meaningful employment. You sound incredibly bored.

  • 366 pawl250 // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    Thump

    And what knowledge is that in this case?

    Me merely thinking and knowing because of facts that we are a mid table side?

    Or I watch more football (assumption incoming) than most of this blog? Especially foreign football, whether it be streamed or Sky.

    Its a bold assumption, but probably a correct one.

    Is it therefore safe to say I have more knowledge of potentially unknown players in other leagues, or at least unknown to the majority on this blog.

    Knowledge is power no? Do I not hold more about modern day football than a blogger who hears a linked name and simply googles/youtubes him for his “best bits” highlight reel?

    I am unsure to what you refer to?

  • 367 Sazzer // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:07 AM

    Geordie187
    The market have dried up quite a bit with out opening up that many opportunities but Guidetti, Giovinco, Matri, Defoe, Schieber, Elmander might be available now that they are behind in the pecking order.

  • 368 pawl250 // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    BandB

    On the contrary I am fully employed, and have been since leaving school.

    I did day release at job and have a professional qualification.

    ….. But you assumption again is astonishing.

    Although I am bored, and to your delight am going to bed. I have work tomorrow at 9am ….

    I may get on throughout for the odd cheeky post.

    Good night all.

    Hope all is well. Take care.

  • 369 Ted Bundy // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:09 AM

    I see Pawl is the prey for the night……

  • 370 Jamiemac // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    Embarrassed to call myself a NUFC fan after reading these comments

  • 371 DG MAGPIE // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    I wish we were ran more like spurs :(

  • 372 MacToon // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    Jail, good to see you comments are back to normal and disappointed in the system that censored you. Maybe calling someone mug had something to do with it maybe, can’t really think of anything else other than the usual suspects, Jeff and his mates.
    You question about if JFK had been gagged was answered unofficially by a smile and a nod from Wendy T.

    Thump, some “radge” gave the new fans liason guy Lee a hard time last night who I thought came across quite well overall but it’s a thankless job, oh aye, the “radge” was your dad mate ;-)

  • 373 pawl250 // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:12 AM

    Big Pappa Cisse

    I think Swansea have a more technically gifted team, and as stated on numerous occasions a better suited manager.

    Of course the playing style could work in our team with the players we have. BUT will all our players stay fit, Swansea did not have the injuries we had last year to be fair to Pardew.

    Still they outplayed an opposition tonight, Sunderland outplayed Spurs in Asia, does that mean they are better than Spurs, or merely that on any given night anything can happen?

    7 times out of 10 Spurs would win the Mackems. My argument is 4-0 against an unknown team can easily be 1 or 2 nil next week in the 2nd leg.

    We will have to see.

  • 374 Pokat // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:14 AM

    Wow. There goes an ego that could do with a blog all its own. Plus he managed to get a professional qualification while at the same time watching the worlds football matches. I don’t think he ever sleeps.

  • 375 Sazzer // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    I prefer Gomis and Remy over them.

  • 376 p // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    Aye people need to cool out, no need for such abrasiveness

  • 377 BandB // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    Pawl

    I used to total straw man arguments.
    Horrible, when someone does that to you.
    Isn’t it?
    Good night. Hope to talk to you properly again.

  • 378 manxpie // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    bpc were you saying the same when swansea were playing that way but couldn’t put the ball in the net or last year when wigan were relegated?
    at the end of the day since pardews been here he’s inherited a team, sold some of them got good replacements finished 5th then got shafted last summer then after massive headaches over the prem, euro n injuries got the players he,the fans n the players deserved in january which scraped over the line
    now is a new season with the new players bedded in and with pre season behind them i feel as a fan we will have a good season and actually this season will be one of the greatest ever prem seasons we defo need a couple of attackers but my point is pardew hasn’t exactly had it as easy as laudrop has he esp since swansea have had that playing style since martinez
    and then sousa and rodgers so imo it really isn’t laudrops brand of football!

  • 379 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    @ pawl

    Yes but Swansea do it regularly not every now and then. They don’t always win but have only had the likes of Danny Graham up front. Now with Michu and Bony they will win more gamea for sure.

  • 380 manxpie // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    by greatest ever prem seasons i mean as a whole btw lol

  • 381 headtheball // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    Mister Tuff @ 216
    Thanks for the photo of viv/plana at 216. It is always nice to put a face to the name. He sure looks a badass cowboy and the red hat? If it wasn’t for the humour I don’t think I would bother.
    You wouldn’t have a photo of pawl would you?
    Keep up the good work.
    Cowboys with red hats…….OUT!

  • 382 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    I don’t like to use the word cretin often, but in this case I think it is applicable.

    Pawl, you sir, are a cretin. That is all.

  • 383 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    @ manx

    You are missing the point. Yes Swansea & Wigan don’t get many results but that is because they lack in quality. You can’t compare Leon Britton or Gary Caldwell to the Internationals we have man

    We should be doing what they do and so much more.

  • 384 Mister Tuff // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    god he must have worn his fingers out with all that typing -has he gone yet.

  • 385 OhSholaAmeobi // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    Anyone else noticed the stream of utterly ridiculous, damaging and misleading articles on newcastle united printed by the daily mail since their falling out with newcastle?
    For example recently:

    Pressures mounts on newcastle and kinnear
    Trabzonspor after troubled cisse (utter s***!)
    Sunderland 9 newcastle 0: free spending di canio leaves toon fans feeling like poor relations

    Someone get this noticed because people actually believe the crap they come up with.

  • 386 Mister Tuff // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    headthe ball – glad you appreciated the humour – the extra laugh was that some other bloggers were accusing him of probably not being very tall or words to that effect. The image still is making me laugh. I think it’s hilarious.

  • 387 manxpie // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:45 AM

    bpc but my point is it takes time mate from top to bottom
    swansea didn’t over night become a europa team it’s taken them 10 years on the same path we however have a path that tries to take stupid short cuts n silly decisions n have chopped n changed for the last 10 years and btw fans have been a big part of that!
    as i said before i believe our 1st team is a very good 1 we need a few good back ups as i’ve already stated but lets see how both us n swansea do against the mancs before everyone says how much better they are hey??

  • 388 Uncertain Toon // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:45 AM

    Aye the daily fail is full of it, mind you there all as bad as each other, even the reputable brands are consistently way off. And when they get something right, they’re behind the curve as the info has already been disseminated by other means!
    I miss the ITK’s on here, even just for that little glimmer of hope!

  • 389 manxpie // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:50 AM

    ohshola its the same with all the press how much stick did we get last year for buying french but i heard tonight that swansea had 9 spaniards n how many italians have the scum bought??
    it seems that nufc fans are still box office for the press

  • 390 Thump // Aug 2, 2013 at 12:53 AM

    Whoops, forgot to reply.

    @Pawl: My comments were in regards to your “midtable club” which I won’t address too much because yo-yo did that brilliantly. It was yo-yo’s reply to you that also spawned my “knowledge is power” comment. You admitted you were largely ignorant of the better part of our history and that’s a vital part of the club and an important part of any debate regarding where we “should” be positioned in the table.

    Regarding “we are a midtable club”… are we? Right now, we probably are, yes. Should we expect to live in midtable? Of course not – that’s not what any competitive sport is about. We should be aiming significantly higher and with some of the talent we already have, it’s definitely within our reach. All we’re asking for is a bit of ambition shown by the club for once.

    THAT is what everybody is getting onto you about.

  • 391 Novocastrian66 // Aug 2, 2013 at 1:03 AM

    This club has only once shown real ambition in my life. Even then John

  • 392 Ashton // Aug 2, 2013 at 1:03 AM

    Big Pappa Cissé 353

    I agree. Most of our fans just don’t realize how good some of our players are. We have a very good squad with some quality quality players, but last season we got dominated by everyone. Even the games in which we won we were getting outplayed.

    The right manager can take this club to new heights. We are a starting LW and a backup striker away from having an amazing squad. Alas with Pardew in charge we will never see how good our players are which bothers me to no end. It’s killing my soul.

  • 393 headtheball // Aug 2, 2013 at 1:07 AM

    Mr
    Can’t get the image to move and it is causing me some grief. Whenever viv/plana posts I will see the same image but also think of the song ” Put on your red dress baby ” but change the lyrics to red hat.

  • 394 Novocastrian66 // Aug 2, 2013 at 1:07 AM

    Hall pulled the plug. This club is a mid table club. We are the biggest of the small clubs. We have the potential to be the biggest club in the country and therefore the world however nobody is prepared to make that investment. We are where we are until someone is prepared to push on. There isn’t anyone queing up.

  • 395 Thump // Aug 2, 2013 at 1:10 AM

    @Ashton: In all honesty, and this is a poor opinion for this blog, I still reckon Pardew can be that manager. He seems almost too soft in his approach to dealing with the players. Jonas complained about not being pushed hard enough in training so I think a lot of the injuries and crap results last season can be chalked up to that. If he screws his head on and says “Right. This is how we’re doing things.” he could be a brilliant manager. He just needs to trust his gut a bit more… and I don’t think he’s got the balls to do that, sadly.

  • 396 manxpie // Aug 2, 2013 at 1:12 AM

    ashton so name this manager then mate i mean it served us so well over the years hasn’t it?
    dalglish a prem league winner , ghullit an f.a cup winner or sir bobby who won many trophies all around europe (that got sacked from supporter unrest but lets not mention that hey!!?)
    so go on give us your manager that is gonna change this club around from top to bottom in 1 season???

  • 397 p // Aug 2, 2013 at 1:15 AM

    Ashton, i agree that we have some decent players and the right manager would get more out of them.

    However, i also feel we lackedscoring options. It was hard to see where goals were going to come from apart from a few cisse goals and the odd one from goufran etc

    As well as an alternative way of play to long lofted balls, we needed some different ideas about how to open up oppositions defences whether that be set play or whatever

  • 398 Mister Tuff // Aug 2, 2013 at 1:19 AM

    headtheball – there seems to have been an influx of nutters on here recently – whilst it is tempting to engage in order to put them straight – in reality as others on here suggest – it’s probably best to ignore them totally and they won’t have the fuel to keep going.

  • 399 Ashton // Aug 2, 2013 at 1:28 AM

    Thump

    You are right in saying that Pardew has no balls. I’ve been saying that since the beginning of last season. His decision to switch to 442 just because Ba wasn’t happy not playing in a central role showed what a loser and coward Pardew is.

    I will never forget him for abandoning the 433 in favor of 442. This decision cost us so much and he is the only person to blame for all of this.

  • 400 manxpie // Aug 2, 2013 at 1:37 AM

    so ashton ya got no replacement for pardew then!!?
    and as for your blaming game how about the owner?
    just a hint like!?

  • 401 Ashton // Aug 2, 2013 at 1:39 AM

    manxpie

    Valverde was available in the summer. He would’ve been perfect for us. He is young and he knows how to speak English and tactically he is one of the best managers in the business in my opinion, very underrated.

    Murat Yakin or Lucien Favre can take us to the next level. I would also take Poyet right now. He is tactically sound. And he outclassed us two times with inferior players.

  • 402 Ashton // Aug 2, 2013 at 1:48 AM

    p

    I think having an alternative way of playing is the duty of the manager and not the players. We have the players to play different styles (No long balls because we don’t have the players for this particular style to work yet ironically it’s the only style we play!)

    I think we can play more of passing and slow build up game with our players. A different style that I think we can pull of very well is; counter attacking. We did that with the 433 especially against WBA away and we destroyed them. We could’ve scored 6 or 7 goals in that game playing with quick counter attacks. We haven’t tried that style for ages though and it doesn’t seem like we are playing it anytime soon.

  • 403 manxpie // Aug 2, 2013 at 1:51 AM

    ashton well done for pulling names out of a hat but would that be managers that would change the club from top to bottom?

    would they work under an owner like ashley?
    i.e not invest when needed?

    so would they really do any better than pardew esp in 1 season b4 they were torn apart n then wanted replaced!!?

  • 404 p // Aug 2, 2013 at 1:57 AM

    Ashton, i get what you are saying but still do not see where the goals are coming from – i do see this changing with gomis and/or remi. I think those guts will give us a didifferent dynamic that will lead to more goals, regardless of pardews ineptitude

  • 405 Kazzy // Aug 2, 2013 at 2:01 AM

    Bony scoring twice for Swansea
    I rekon we missed out on 1 there :(

  • 406 p // Aug 2, 2013 at 2:09 AM

    Kazzy tempting to think that, time will tell.

    He was 12 mill though wasn’t he? Too much for mash

  • 407 Kazzy // Aug 2, 2013 at 2:13 AM

    haha true!
    we can have gomis and remy around about that figure if reported fees are true hopefully 1 of them through the door early next week fingers crossed

  • 408 Ashton // Aug 2, 2013 at 2:14 AM

    manxpie

    Who said the club needs to changed from top to bottom? And those manager would work for Ashley because the managerial system in most of Europe is similar to ours. And with the players we have and our fans and league, we are a very attractive project to those managers.

    And I don’t need to pull name out of the hat. The managers I mentioned are quite well known and if you watch an entry level of European football the chances of you hearing about them will be quite high, but I guess you don’t do that, and when someone does, you get perplexed knowing that there are people who know more about football than you.

    That’s very weak and in my experience only pathetic people behave like that.

  • 409 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Aug 2, 2013 at 2:24 AM

    @Kazzy – did you see the match? He didn’t look that impressive to be honest, but I think that was mainly because he looked like he hasn’t gelled with his teammates yet- kept making the wrong runs/ passes.

    Swansea however looked really impressive. I think if Bony can score some goals to help Michu and not make him the sole goalscorer for them then they’re gonna be a serious team this year. Shelvey looks like he fits in perfectly.

  • 410 Thump // Aug 2, 2013 at 2:43 AM

    @Pawl: Look at what Ashton is doing. This is how you present your argument.

    @Ashton: Though it probably means nothing to you – keep up the good work.

  • 411 Kc-Toon // Aug 2, 2013 at 3:23 AM

    @Gonufc
    I honestly believe Bony wont be too impressive when the season kicks off. I cant see him having the kind of movement that a striker would thrive from in Swansea’s team. Shelvey though, look to be a great signing, i still cant believe Liverpool let him leave for so little.

  • 412 p // Aug 2, 2013 at 3:48 AM

    See moussa tweeted to gomis that he is welcome at the too

  • 413 p // Aug 2, 2013 at 3:49 AM

    At the toon as well

  • 414 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 2, 2013 at 3:58 AM

    Pardew has no balls?

    Pardew is the one who has stood infront of the camera’s and fans time and time again while he has been shit on from a great height, lied to, humiliated and been undermined by this regime.

    It does make me laugh, with this whole mess right now, people look at the bottom of the food chain to set blame of our short comings.

    He is the most professional person at the club right now and about the only stability that we have.

    It takes balls to work under those circumstances.

    It also takes balls to give a young 17 yr old Adam Campbell game time in the Premier League while we are having a disastrous season because the regime has failed to deliver once again.

    It “dosn’t” take balls to scapegoat a manager for our under achievements, who is working under probably the most inept structure that has been witnessed in the whole life and glory of the Premier League.

    I’v said it before and I’ll say it again, while Pardew may have his short comings, you could bring Jose Mourinho in and it wouldn’t make a blind bit of difference to where we finish in the league.

    The reason for that is because we have no ambition as a football club. There is no thorough forward planning, initiative or game plan.

    We are set-up to struggle season after season through a lack of planning and sufficient building to the squad. We are always caught short in positions. Every season. This has nothing to do with Pardew.

    Every manager would face the same problems and we would still be finishing mid-table season after season.

    This squad as a whole is still not good enough for anything other than mid-table, with two quality strikers added we could make a push for top 7-8.

    If it wasn’t for the serious and long term injuries last season we would of comfortably finished between 8th and 10th. Exactly where we should of.

  • 415 p // Aug 2, 2013 at 4:05 AM

    I disagree, wenger has all his best players sold, always seems not to get the signings inpeople think he needs and he still gets in thchampions league

  • 416 p // Aug 2, 2013 at 4:08 AM

    I do agree pardew has been on the whole professional and dignified (but i still think he is mediocre)

    Also, i think he knew the deal with the club and how mash wanted to do things on a shoe string

  • 417 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 2, 2013 at 4:17 AM

    At the end of the day people can shout for a change in manager until the cows come home.

    But the reality is, until the major problems at this football club are addressed, don’t expect any changes in fortunes on the pitch either.

    With or without a different manager.

    That’s the reality of NUFC.

    We are exactly where MA want’s us to be and it’s what are ambition and investment status suggests. Safe, and that’s all he wants.

    Mid-table.

    Alan Pardew is capable of that.

    Until a top 6 assault under a different regime, hopefully in my lifetime, this is the score for now. Then we can get a better manager in.

  • 418 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 2, 2013 at 4:30 AM

    P,

    We brought in a mediocre manager because it’s all we aspire to be as a football club. Mike Ashley got the right man in for the job, he hasn’t made a mistake here.

    It’s no co-incidence a mediocre manager has been given an 8 year deal. It’s because we are planning on staying a mediocre football team for the next 7 years.

    If we win anything under Mike Ashley there will have to be a huge amount of luck involved and he wouldn’t deserve any credit for it.

    Mike Ashley does not care about trophies, he cares about advertising his major passion.

    Sports Direct.

  • 419 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 2, 2013 at 4:47 AM

    P,

    Wenger has had 16 seasons at Arsenal in which he has been well backed by a good board room who know how to go on in the football world. He has implemented an excellent structure during stable times. He has also overseen an excellent academy.

    It’s a far cry from the world of NUFC.

    During the last 5-6 seasons we have had a handful of managers, resignations, relegations, court cases & turmoil.

    Basically, a whole load of embarrassments.

  • 420 Klatoon // Aug 2, 2013 at 5:13 AM

    Could this be the day? Here’s hoping!

  • 421 Indian Magpie // Aug 2, 2013 at 6:21 AM

    Sometimes i Feel a Surprise is in the offing with Joe Kinnear with gomis bent and remy all smoke screens for better players but then reality bites in.

  • 422 Indian Magpie // Aug 2, 2013 at 6:26 AM

    Bent
    Gomis and
    Remy

    The limit of aspirations at NUFC.

    It is beyond Sad

  • 423 Toon73 // Aug 2, 2013 at 6:26 AM

    @Klatoon

    It’s Ground Hog day that’s about it.

  • 424 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 2, 2013 at 6:34 AM

    Are people staying up this late just in case Ed post some good news?

    …or is it just a serious case of insomnia ;-) lol

    People you new rest, nothing is going to happen (Joke is sound asleep as well)

  • 425 magicbus // Aug 2, 2013 at 7:12 AM

    Spurs sell Bale and buy Remy for squad building. We hum and hah penny pinching on deals and lose out on more strikers that we BADLY need. I can see this happening.
    Another crap season to look forward to.

  • 426 89Norcal // Aug 2, 2013 at 7:29 AM

    you can all whine as much as you want about the piss-poor quality of our football…

    At least it’s AFFORDABLE football :)

  • 427 scout // Aug 2, 2013 at 7:37 AM

    Good morning chaps, hopefully well wrestle someone over the line today.

  • 428 Toon73 // Aug 2, 2013 at 7:41 AM

    @423

    Jesper, it’s 4.40pm here ;)

  • 429 89Norcal // Aug 2, 2013 at 7:46 AM

    Daily Mail just released that story on Cisse being targeted by Trabzonespor.

    If it has any weight then surely we’ll step up our efforts to replace our 1st striker. Kind of like a penny-pinching circus version of the Spurs/Bale, Ronaldo/Madrid fiasco

  • 430 ~Joke-innear~ // Aug 2, 2013 at 7:51 AM

    Bring back dennis wise or derek llambias… Bring in a monkey for christ sakes… Any of the three are better DOF’s then this pile of smoldering turd currently at the club.

  • 431 Santon03 // Aug 2, 2013 at 8:00 AM

    “If he was to go, someone will have to pay for him. He has a buy-out clause, and we want our money back.”

    It sounds like Remy is a bad investment and QPR is trying to get rid of him, they don’t want him temporarily gone, they want him gone permanently. If we sign him, we will be the joke of nation, we will be the fool. We will be getting a rapist and giving QPR 8mil back, the same money that used to hijack us, not to mention his wage must be higher than our budget since he went to QPR for bigger wage.

  • 432 gazza85 // Aug 2, 2013 at 8:04 AM

    @Santon

    I feel we’re already the joke of the nation. I know fine well the Scum at least are p**sing their pants laughing at us.
    Lets just hope PDC falls flat on his fascist face and they finish well below us.

  • 433 scout // Aug 2, 2013 at 8:19 AM

    I don’t live in the north east anymore so I don’t get to hear the daft Mackems predictions for the season. It did make me laugh mind, I wouldn’t be bothered what they think. Proper clubs don’t buy 10 players in a couple of weeks and proper chairmen don’t sanction such reckless management.
    I’m trying to stay positive by thinking we ain’t in bad shape because none of the so called stars have departed.
    We need a striker though badly, I believe he will sign today. No insider knowledge just good old fashioned intuition.
    I feel it in this mornings thunder

  • 434 Santon03 // Aug 2, 2013 at 8:27 AM

    @gazza

    Yes JK first few days back we were joke of the nation, but other than that we haven’t done anything stupid imo.
    Only lack of movement in transfer, but in truth we haven’t heard anything maybe just being cautious.

    @Scout
    I hope your feeling in this morning thunder is right LOL

  • 435 Klatoon // Aug 2, 2013 at 8:32 AM

    Think of it this way lads,

    1. we’ve got the most settled squad, our players know each other quite well.

    2.They all know they let the club and themselves down last season.

    3. We are NUFC, we surprise, when expectations are high (last season) we under achieve, when they are low ( couple seasons ago) we almost get into the CL!

    4. We are bloody Newcastle United!!!

    That worked? Nah…didnt think so, we need to sign strikers ASAP

  • 436 scout // Aug 2, 2013 at 8:37 AM

    Who was that Nunez bloke couldn’t we resign him? Oh hang on

  • 437 gazza85 // Aug 2, 2013 at 8:43 AM

    Tbh we only really need 1 Remyesque striker for our first 11 to be very competative and play a nice 433 (Remy-Cisse-Arfa front line), however we’d then be living in the hope that we got very few injuries as we’d still have limited striker cover especially although the strength in depth in general looks better after January.

    An ambitious owner would see us signing 3-5 this window…. we’ll get 1-2.

  • 438 Santon03 // Aug 2, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    I don’t know how many players has been sold or let go by the Scums, I haven’t followed any news about them (actually I don’t really care).
    But if they buy more than they sold, that means they have too many players and huge wage bill, they could be the next Leeds or Portsmouth

  • 439 tomellifred360 // Aug 2, 2013 at 9:06 AM

    “Some players want to play in the premier league due to world cup. Loans are a good option. As we hope to come back to the premier league”

    Tony Fernandes tweeted this 7 hours ago!




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