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Kinnear Says Remy Deal Close – We Still Want Bent – Gomis Signing Difficult

5:31 pm, Sunday, August 4th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 302 Comments

There are some reports that Loic Remy is not too keen to come to Newcastle this summer, but according to our guy doing the deals – Joe Kinnear – we are close to signing Remy.

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Joe Kinnear says the Loic Remy deal is close

Joe was asked by Sky Sports if Newcastle were close to signing Remy, and this is what he said:

“Yes I think very much so, I would like to think we are very, very close to agreeing that.” “I would think maybe Monday or Tuesday we will be a position to say yea or nay, but I am very happy about how that deal is going at the moment.”

And Joe has even said that Newcastle are still hopeful of signing Darren Bent, even though the news stories on Thursday morning were that Newcastle had offered only £2M for the England International and the deal was dead, leaving Fulham as the only club left interested in the 29 year-old.

Not according to Joe Kinnear who said this to Sky Sports today:

“We were with Darren’s agent for two or three hours, we thrashed out a deal.” “We are still in negotiations with Aston Villa so there is a really strong possibility there.”

“Again I hear the latest is that somebody else has all of a sudden shown interest in the player so we have competition from various clubs around the country, but I am not letting go.”

“These are players that me and Alan [Pardew] have spoken about. These are players that we’ve all agreed at the club are the type of player we want to bring to Newcastle.”

And finally, what did Joe have to say about the potential Bafe Gomis deal with Lyon, and Joe had this to say:

“The Gomis deal was agreed on numerous occasions, but it’s a very difficult situation because there’s always extra add-ons, extra things, another problem.”

It’s good to hear that we may be close to a deal on Remy, and that we are still after Bent, but we’d prefer our transfer business to be done in a more private way with more stealth, and the first thing we hear is when the player is actually signed, sealed and delivered.

It’s also hard to be successful in the transfer market, when you give your competitors updates on where you stand in the negotiations for a player – that;s exactly what they want to know.

We need to keep quiet about who we are after from now on – well at least next time around.

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302 responses so far ↓

  • 1 ~Joke-innear~ // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    why is this man still employed?

  • 2 Tyldesley Toon // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    Joe shhhh stop telling the world where we are up to with negotiations. No other team in the PL does that

  • 3 firebug666 // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    Kinnear out = Players in.

  • 4 WWYCD // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    Markaccus
    I am disappointed in u mate

    Cisse will not go to Lyon money’s not there for him and no one spends 35 mill on a keeper specially not Arsenal haha

    I am gonna accept uve heard this lark but I would be utterly stunned if it had any truth behind it

  • 5 toon22 // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    The latest meeting at SJP

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rECB4u3VOAs

  • 6 Tyldesley Toon // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    We don’t want him out, he’s head and shoulders above the other DOFs out there.

  • 7 Rotonda heights // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    Why the hell are we still after Bent when no one else has seriously gone in for him? No way would he be a Carr recommendation.

    I think the only way we could get a multi billionaire owner is if someone fronted for them pretending to be a much humbler and more modest organisation because as soon as Ash smells a seriously rich owner, ie like the Mansoors the asking price triples.

  • 8 joeinthecheapseats // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    Rotunda
    If you listen to JFK!s interview it is clear the third striker is for the bench and to cover injuries which is what Bent will be used for.
    I would take him over Shola anytime and as much as Campbell N Vukic maybe good players in years to come they aren’t upto it yet and should be loaned out for the season.
    The interview was quite good and also mentioned another area were we will strengthen once the strikers are in.

  • 9 Markaccus // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    WWYCD

    Like i said mate, could easily be bollox.

    My immediate reaction was scepticism, and i have major doubts over it still. However, if there is any truth in it, You read it here first and i am an ITK. At which point i will take myself outside and shoot myself in the face :D

  • 10 firebug666 // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    Kinnear sitting watching the cricket while working on his excuses for losing Remy to Spurs, Gomis to Marseilles, and Bent to Fulham. He says we are working hard on these deals. mmmmm Looks like it, out at the cricket with his mate.

  • 11 geordie1892 // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    Actually not a bad interview but ultimately he will be judged by the signings he makes.

  • 12 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    Krul for 35 million hmmmmm

    Markaccus I think someone is trying to wind you up mate

  • 13 Pip // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    Take this as you will but it is totally true. Last night I was drinking outside the Diamond in Ponteland at about 7:30 when Demba Ba and a shortish guy who was driving pulled up at the Traffic lights. When they turned green they headed off towards Darras Hall. I have no idea if he still has a house in the area or maybe he was just visiting some of his ex team mates but he has been in the North East this weekend.

    He was in a BMW with a French registration plate personalised “Ba”

  • 14 geordie1892 // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    Trouble is because he made such an fool of himself in his first few days he has made his job so much harder and lost all credibility (not that he had much).

  • 15 clinath@ed // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Mark….ITK? More like HGC ( haven’t gotta clue) or TUB (talking utter bollox)…lol.????

  • 16 niafron // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Bonsoir messieurs.

    Could someone explain to me how work a fantasy football league?

  • 17 Markaccus // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Jack

    The lad who told me is a good mate, so i doubt he is trying to wind me up, however, it entirely possible someone was trying to wind him up. He isn’t daft though, so i do think his informant was at least convincing enough to sell it.

  • 18 Markaccus // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    Clinath

    Very probably :D
    On the other hand i am also a CCL (couldnt care less) and DGAF. (Dont give a F***)!!

  • 19 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    Best equalises for Blackburn 1 – 1 with Derby.

    Real good goal as well

  • 20 geordie1892 // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    niafron – http://fantasy.premierleague.com/rules/

    Basically you pick your team and are awarded points for performance eg. goals, assists that type of thing

  • 21 Noah Another Ameobi // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    i think this team could push for top 8
    —————————krul————————
    Debuchy——Colo—— Mbiwa— Santon
    —————Sissoko—— Cabaye————
    —————————Hba————————
    Remy————— Cisse ————Gouffran

    in a 443 with sissoko and cabaye in cm which means one can go forward and the other stay back, Hba in a number 10 role would be great as he likes to drift inside then with 3 strikers up front we would get about 30 goals a season

  • 22 geordie157 // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    Great finish by Leon Best.

  • 23 djm... // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:55 PM

    What a goal Leon best! Should have never let that lad go! He could have fought for a place in the reserves with shola and xisco last season.

  • 24 clinath@ed // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:55 PM

    Yep, I think I could be a DGAF at this moment in time…

  • 25 Markaccus // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    It is best to be a DGAF where nufc are concerned, otherwise you would go mental!

  • 26 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    Markaccus

    I could see Ashley asking for 35 million for both Cisse and Krul

  • 27 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    Nice finish Besty

  • 28 check the toastie // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    I liked Besty, amazing really how Parsnip always dropped him for Shola as soon as he came back from injury, Besty and Ba were pretty good and Suited Parsnips Hoofball tactics.

  • 29 Markaccus // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    Jack

    That would make more sense. Say 25 for cisse and 10 for krull. Im sure if there is any truth at all in any of it then something will come out before long.

  • 30 niafron // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:07 PM

    @geordie 1892

    So basically,this is about the individuals performances of the choosen players each week?

  • 31 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:07 PM

    @ check

    I agree. Ba & Best were the combo we used early on in the 5th place season and it worked pretty well.

    I just don’t see why so many managers stick with Shola ? . He is a nice guy and I have met him before but he has never been a great footballer. Plus for a Premier league footballer to be fatigued within 20 minutes is disgraceful.

    I have heard managers say he is brilliant in training, maybe I will have to pop down to Benton one day and see what all the fuss is about :)

  • 32 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    Anyone else find it strange that Kinnear only talked about Cisse and a few youngsters at the club who we can use as a striker?

    Maybe he just forgot about Shola or maybe Shola is not in his thinking and is on his way out

  • 33 Jail for Ashley // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:10 PM

    I liked Best but was at the Villa game when he got injured for Cisse to come on although nobody voiced it, you could sense the crowd being pleased with his going off.

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  • 35 Jail for Ashley // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    Reading Ed’s previous post I take it somebody must have complained about the resident troll, why do I sense our newest arrival “pip” might be on the wind up.

  • 36 Markaccus // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    Jack

    Or he is a blithering oaf who doesnt know anything about the club at all :D

  • 37 WWYCD // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    Markaacus
    Just can’t see it being true mate specially not with the teams mentioned sounds like a load of 1+1=15 stuff to me

  • 38 plana // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    Joe has gone up in my estimation. He didn’t dodge any questions and he is addressing the right areas of the pitch.

  • 39 count // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    We should never have let Best go. I thought he was a classy player. Will never understand why we sold him.

    Can’t believe people think that other teams scour the media to try to find out which players other teams are after in the hope of finding how much has been bid for them and stepping in at the last minute. It is just a ridiculous concept. The amount of utter sh!te they would have to sift through would be soul destroying. Much like having to sift through some of the bizarre perceptions on here.
    Please people, try to get back in touch with reality.

    It is agents that are responsible for where a player goes. Not rumours in the media. If someone is snatched from our grasp at the last minute it is because their agent has been in contact with lots of clubs. Not because a manager heard joe Kinnear on talksport or somesuch talking about who he hoped to sign.
    Cloud cuckoo land.

    I know I said I would post once a day, but with such bizarre concepts being thrust in my eyes, I am fit to burst.

  • 40 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    Markaccus

    Been thinking about it and I’ve come to the conclusion that Shola Ameobi is simply too hard for him to say, so he’s decided to not even attempt to pronounce it in public for fear of making a fool of himself (again)

  • 41 bobby mango // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    Now Kinnear has opened his mouth about the deals I doubt any will go through… Although it was actually a pretty sane, sensible statement (for once).

    Gomis signs don’t look good. Worry saying Remy looks likely is tempting fate, after what happen last time I won’t count on it until he’s in the shirt. Bent seems back-up.

    On people’s comments about wishing we’d kept Best… I couldn’t agree more. Was foolish to sell him.

  • 42 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    Made me giggle

    http://www.themag.co.uk/video-replay/video-tribute-to-joe-kinnear-not-to-be-missed-parental-guidance-advised/

  • 43 Quasimodo's tailor // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    I have just listened to Joke’s extended interview, and I have to admit I wasn’t impressed. He was uneasy (the nervous cough grated on me), and he could barely look the interviewer in the eye. Cisse’s only got 4 letters in his surname, yet Joke couldn’t even pronounce that properly.When the subject of Harford’s “appointment” was brought up, he initially called him Mick and then started calling him Mike, presumably confusing him with our chubby owner. No potential new players can possibly be impressed with the blustering bag of wind.

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  • 45 Jail for Ashley // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:26 PM

    I was all for Best going as I thought he was bought for the Championship and although I thought he done a good job it would have been good to see him upgraded, if I’d have known at the time he was sold because Ashley didn’t want to see a 3M striker sat on the bench I would have been livid, although he might have been offered a new contract and not signed it as it wasn’t purple enough.

  • 46 onepeterb // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    Thought joe spoke well. By the way the reason he was at a cricket match was to support research into the cancer that killed his son. Seems fair enough to me

  • 47 Premiership Manager // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    So now we have agreed personal terms with Gomis and Bent – you couldn’t make it up.

    First of all JFK was asked to leave the building when he offered £2m for Bent – He was not allowed to talk to the player and personal terms were not discussed.

    An agent does what the player tells him, it’s as simple as that so the Gomis deal s still a long way from being competed and it is very questionable as to whether Gomis wants to come to SJP.

    Remy – If we had agreed a £2M loan fee with an option to buy the deal should have been signed, sealed and delivered. Despite our dislike for the man, Lambias would have had these deals done before we went public.

    Ashley and Pardew must be pulling their hair out and if the rumours surrounding JFK have any element of truth regarding him getting smashed on the train and then turning up for a meeting he should be shown the door.

    It’s beyond a joke and the question has to be asked why on earth are we pursuing players who nobody really wants?

    Chelsea and MC have an abundance of players who would jump at the chance of first team football. Victor Moses on loan with an option to buy would be good business for both clubs. Santa Cruise was hot property 2 years ago yet he has gone to Reading on a free – where the hell were the board on that one.

    When Norwich, Swansea, Reading, West Ham and West Brom are strengthening their teams throughout we cannot sit on our laurels as the competition have stepped their game up yet we are sitting with our fingers up or backsides hoping it will all work out.

    We need to move quickly and concisely in the transfer market and buy the right players for the right reasons.

    Excuses are not acceptable and it’s about time JFK was given the boot. Pardew deserves a chance however he needs to realise that if JFK fails to sign players and the team do not perform he’ll be next out of the door.

    Sack JFK, bring in the players and return stability to the club because believe me there is a volcano brewing and when it goes off it won’t be pretty

  • 48 stuart no9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:30 PM

    we all know he ( joke) is a born liar. on the previous thread he said – they are trying hard to get the type of player yhe fans want . bo;;ocks, – its anybody on the cheap who they want. he also says ” he would like to think they are very close to signing remy- , hes right , he would like to think that- but thinking and getting is 2 completly different things . If we do get anybody , its going to be very tight . forget about 2 or 3 players , joke cant multi task, 1 player then h’ell need a holiday to give that blubber he has for brains a rest

  • 49 niafron // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    One thing is sure, we will certainly not sign the three of them…

    Maybe two, but only if Cissé is leaving.

  • 50 Jail for Ashley // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    stuart 9,
    He is a professional and works for a billionaire why would he tell lies ?

  • 51 toon22 // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:42 PM

    JFK is a stupid drunken fat c&*nt
    If MA cant see that he either dont care or is the same as.

  • 52 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:42 PM

    niafron

    We have Campbell who’s going out on loan, Shola who’s basically knackered and needs to be moved on so we do need at least two striker in. If we get all three it will be because Pardew see’s Remy as a wide player

  • 53 Pip // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    @ 35

    Seriously, not a wind up – but I do believe the most sensible explantion is that he was just up seeing some of his French speaking mates.

  • 54 stuart no9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    JFA ” hes a professional ” a professional what ?

  • 55 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    @ stuart

    A professional ars*hole :)

  • 56 croftus5678 // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:48 PM

    kinear gave a great interview there and actually gave me some hope ^^

    close to remy gomis all but tied up and still in for bent (wow did not think 3 strikers ^^) then goes on to say once we have 2 strikers we will be looking at the other problem area which he has already said is wingers !!!! omg he could win me over afterall we shall see.

  • 57 niafron // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    Ok for Campbell.

    But we are supposed to play with one single striker ( wich is logic with all the midfielders we have), so without european competition, three striker is largely enoug.

    We have now Cissé, Shola and i also count GOuffy in. So with these three lads, it make 6.

    If Shola leave, it would make 5. This is far too much in our current situation.

    We need 2 of these four: Cissé, Rémy, Bent and Gomis.

    And GOuffy as the third man in case of injury.

  • 58 niafron // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:50 PM

    Someone know if Beny played CAM or on the wing against St Mirren?

  • 59 sparky55 // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    Premiership manager…why the hell does Pardew deserve another chance?…what’s he done in pre-season friendlies to suggest he’ll play a different way and get the best from a squad who deserve so much better.

    JFK is a joke and a complete dinosaur but the squad and the manager are the most important things in the squad.

    We’re getting in able replacements for Cabs and Cisse and a.n.other and once we’ve got them the money we know we’re getting for the three that’s going will be back in the bank and Ashley will have four or five new players in the squad and 10 million more in the bank.

    That’s how good business works and it’s completely as per the purple business plan they set out 3 years ago .

    We’ll have a bigger squad, more money in the bank and some more potential purples whose wages have been paid for by selling three existing purples…all according to plan.

  • 60 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    niafron

    Kinnear said that they need a striker option from the bench which would be Bent with Gomis and Cisse up front and Remy out wide

  • 61 johnboy // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    Premiership manager

    Has Santa Cruz not gone to Malaga not reading?

  • 62 Twatter // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    We won’t be getting all three, that would be far too much expenditure. The way I’ve understood it is that it’s either Bent or Gomis with Remy, wouldn’t be both.

  • 63 croftus5678 // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:55 PM

    @56 naifron

    jk said he needs more goals and someone who can play alongside cisse who can score ! cisse/remy/gomis/bent all main strikers and can score goals goofy can come off bench to score or play as winger when needed and cambell as much as i want him to be our main man is no where near ready yet.

    we are looking at playing 4-4-2 by the sounds of it and imo i think thats a good move.

    arfa/remy/goofy on the wings cutting in and making a 3rd striker ect excites the hell outa me with 2 main strikers to take the brunt of it and add an ince to the wing and mccarthy in tiote’s place :-o

  • 64 niafron // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    Rémy isn’t a winger. He could play on the wing, but as a scorer, moving constantly toward center pitch.

    And with Gomis+Cissé upfront…

    Don’t know what to say about that. Kinnear really said that?

  • 65 stuart no9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    big pappa@54 well , now you mention it !- and thats being very kind .

  • 66 niafron // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    Lads, you could play with 11 strikers, you will not score more goals.

  • 67 croftus5678 // Aug 4, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    @58 sparky

    in all or pre-season games we have looked great buddy a completely different team ! no long balls and loads of passes and very direct

    sorry to upset the pards out crew but unfortunatly i say it as it is and in pre-season pards has done a complete u-turn imo.

  • 68 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    niafron

    no mate I think thats how Pardew will see Remy, as he has real pace.

    He said that the Gomis deal was real hard to do as Lyon keep moving the goal post but we needed someone to play alongside Cisse to help him out

  • 69 croftus5678 // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    @65 naifron

    true but you need forward thinking players with quality to create and take chances which we did not have in abundance last season.

  • 70 Jail for Ashley // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    Stuart,
    I just dont know how you would think that anybody associated with a self made billionare would tell lies ?

  • 71 sparky55 // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    @66…don’t know which games you were watching but nothing I saw suggests he’s all of a sudden grown a brain

  • 72 niafron // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    Gomis and CIssé will just stack on, totaly useless and it will put us in great difficulty middle pitch.

    Rémy+ Gomis would be more itneresting or maybe Gomis+GOuffy, but in this case, you ll need 4 hard working lads behind them, wich will restrain the role of Beny and keep Marv out of the pitch. Same for Sissoko.

  • 73 sparky55 // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    lots of players muted to be coming in and most of you think no-one is leaving…madness!!!…we’re not that type of club any more…this transfer window is the one that Ashley starts selling players so he can buy more cheaper ones and cash in on what he’s got so the cycle starts again.

    Mark my words…three purples out the door before the end of this window

  • 74 clinath@ed // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    He now has the team to play that style of game. Coming together in January, when we in the shit…I don’t think he had the nerve to play “pretty” football, and played a panicky, long ball game.
    Right or wrong?……well see soon enough.

  • 75 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    sparky55

    On what basis are you saying that we will sell our best this season?

  • 76 croftus5678 // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    @70 sparky

    people may see games differently as we all have our own bias’s and perspectives but i’m sure if you re-watch and compare to many games last season you would see improvement.

    i.e. pretty much every game we used to kick the ball from our keeper to our striker atleast 5-6 times a game or from goal to midfield that lost possetion and i dont recall that happening once in pre then theres the playing from the back and always forward passing most of the time when most of last season it was going backwards for a pass unless it was a long ball up ect.

  • 77 sparky55 // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:08 PM

    As per the original business plan backed up by what I’ve heard

  • 78 Belfast // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:08 PM

    Good to see him do an interview without making a fool of himself and us for a change.

  • 79 clinath@ed // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:08 PM

    Which summer did Ashley sell off our “purples”?

  • 80 low fell mag // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    Great news, just been listening to talk sport radio.
    They were talking to a bookmaker on the show , and his words were that the two transfers looking done deals were Remy @ Tarabet.
    Remy going to Newcastle @tarabet going else where .
    Remy has went from 1 to 4 on to the odds of 1 to 10 on.
    Looks like job done !

  • 81 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    The original business plan was to see all our best players?

  • 82 sparky55 // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    the long ball is our default position because everyone plays with 5 in midfield apart from us so we’re always over-ran in midfield and the player on the ball rarely has any options so hoofs it…it’s pathetic but true

  • 83 Belfast // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    I would be quite happy with Remy, Gomis, and Bent tbh

    I’d like to see Tom Ince join aswell, but doubt that’ll happen. We also need cover for right back.

  • 84 low fell mag // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    What cannabis plant has Sparky been smoking.

  • 85 sparky55 // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    ok…check back to three years ago when Lambias launched the purple initiative.

    Have 4/5 purples in the team bought in on the cheap from France…develop them, sell them high, buy in new potential purples to develop whose wages will also be paid for from the outgoing purple transfer fees and cycle starts again…all documented …all presented as the model going forward.

    This started three years ago and this summer is the part of the cycle where we sell three purples and replace with 5 new players who hopefully will turn out to be valuable purples of the future who we will sell and finance the next potential purples.

  • 86 Belfast // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    Think if he does any more interviews he should just stick to the tv interviews. He comes across a lot better.
    Then again he could be talking the biggest load of bollox for all we know lol

  • 87 Markaccus // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:18 PM

    Sorry i went quiet. Been giving my youngest his bath.

    WWYCD

    If you are still around. I totally agree you are right 1+1=15 probably. Ashley has been known to do a couple of silly things though, hasnt he :D

  • 88 croftus5678 // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:19 PM

    @82 belfast

    personaly i would make santon my backup rb after deb’s as we have dummett and hairdyer who are great at lb

  • 89 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:19 PM

    All this chatter of us agreeing X Y & Z means nothing until they are officially introduced to SJP for photos – every year we hear the same nonsense and then we end up with a couple of young uns for the future and perhaps a loanee no ones heard off.
    Pardew has gone from – the squad needs strengthened – to – we let him go as we are a bit ‘thick’ in that area. We tell Gosling he can go and then when it falls through we put him straight into the first team, depriving other players of valuable match time.
    As for strikers – why let out Campbell if there is a change (highly likely with Joke in charge) that there will be no new players.
    Living down south I normally travel to SJP 6-8 times a year – not this year!

  • 90 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    sparky55

    Do you think that anyone will pay big money for any of our so called purples?

  • 91 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    sparky – totally agree re: Pardew.

    I know that the whole Kinnear situation has made some people almost wistful and romantic about Pardew but he still remains incredibly dissappointing.
    In Interviews he keeps trying to say the only time the style of play was poor was at the end of last season when we were fighting relegation: that’s just false.

    It’s been lumped up for the whole time except those brief few games when we bought Cisse and played 4-3-3 where we were exciting.

    I’m not saying sack him now, but I am saying he has to show massive improvement and quickly.

  • 92 kt97toonarmy // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    Evening lads

    This is mad we need strikers yet a former st played yesterday one is goin out to st mirren nd another former striker scored today I may of lost there lol

    How is it that it is gonna take 8 days to sign gomis.really. Why? It can’t seriously take that long from terms agreed to signing its terrible and just slow nd lazy from Ashley nd co

    I usually have a Newcastle 11 to post for the match against man city but really we need much better then what Noah shola ameobi suggested I think we need 442 formation to make our potential team against man city look a bit like this

    ————krul—————
    Debuchy–colo–saylor–mbiwa
    ———cabaye—-sissoko—–
    Ben arfa————————remy
    —————cisse—–gomis——

    Subs
    Zoet
    Willo
    Santon
    Gutierrez
    Tiote
    Gouffran
    Marv

    I think we need another striker nd some1 to replace willo as spare CB so to my mind 5 signings to b the team that will take us to Europe once again and even challage for the fa cup which I’d love us to win

  • 93 Belfast // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    Good point croftus forgot about Dummet.

    Those 3 and a winger would do then. By the looks of it Willamson is sticking around, so I can’t see another centre half coming in.

  • 94 croftus5678 // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    @92 belfast

    ye agree we desp need a cb as tbh i dont rate saylor or williamson as there both far too clumbsy and prone to mistakes but like yourself i cant see us signing one atleast not untill jan window.

  • 95 West Lancs Geordie // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    Same old story at Toon. All talk & no action. Why don’t they just shut up or cough up? In 1963 they definitely shot the wrong JFK! – now they are taking about sending him on a negotiation skills course – How to buy 2/3 strikers for nowt!
    IF they sign two out of Bent, Remy Gomis then Cisse will be sold. Not totally convinced about any of them. Bent is passed it, Remy is just a money grabber & the price is now too high for Gomis who is completely unproven in Premiership. Why are we not looking to strengthen at the back? now Perchino & Simmo have gone. Willo the weak is certainly not good enough so squad at present is weaker than last season as no Harper replacement either. Can’t let Campbell go out on loan if no new recrits up front. Willo, Gosling & Obertan should be offloaded ASAP to reduce wage bill – not good enough.
    We are going to have to wait until there is a problem at Xmas before any action at all . Same old Toon

  • 96 low fell mag // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    It now looks like the Remy deal is done and im over the moon.
    This man is superb and I think he is the best out of Gomis and Bent.
    If Gomis and Bent come in even better.
    I have spoke to a couple of lads who I know who support QPR and the 2 of them ,both say he is a class act and reckon he is good enough to play for a top 4 team.
    So any lads on the border line of renewing their season tickets , Just Do It.
    If its financial reasons , just hit Wonga!

  • 97 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    We cant let Williamson go – who are we going to aim at with all those excellently worked dead ball situations – never failed last year!

  • 98 sparky55 // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:36 PM

    jack butler@89. Of course they will…it’s not so much how much we think they’re worth, it’s how much profit we’ll make.

    cabs cost 4. something million…sell for about 18 so 13 million profit to pay for two new players and their wags

    Cisse…we’ll get what we paid for him only because he wants to go and JFK is currently buying his replacement.

    One of Krul and HBA an Tiote are IMO the best bets to go…all of which will produce a healthy profit and all of which we have players that can fill their boots from within the squad already (except of course no-one can fill HBA ‘s shoes)

  • 99 Belfast // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    Still not convinced we’ll get Remy if i’m honest

  • 100 BDin9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    Markaccus, me to. 18 year olds are scruffy gits hehe

  • 101 ROSHAN MAGPIE // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:42 PM

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  • 102 Premiership Manager // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:43 PM

    Sparky/Gonufc

    We have to stick with pardew and give him a change otherwise the scenario will be Pardew out – Kinnear in

    By the time Kinnear has made a hash of it the team will be alienated, results will suffer and the players will look for every which way to leave the club. Whether you like it or not while JFK is there it is in our and the clubs best interests to support Pardew and the players.

    As for bringing wingers in I can’t see it happening as we are already over loaded in midfield particularly with central midfield players. If Cabaye goes I doubt we’ll replace him.

    jonboy sorry it was Malaga

  • 103 HullMag6 // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    Mark I think your source has got confused.

    Saying Cisse probably meant gomis signing in January’s window as the gomis farce has drawn amazing parallels to the debuchy saga.

    But until the shirt shot nothing is concrete

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  • 105 croftus5678 // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:47 PM

    @97 sparky

    your setting yourself up for a big fall buddy if the end of the window comes and we have not let all these players go you know that ?

    cisse has said he’s commited to the toon and doesnt want to leave btw just yesterday and i’m sure i read cabaye was the same somethime last week.

    dont get me wrong i think your right to a degree that if a big big offer came in for one of our players then we would sell but only if it was a “big” offer ! think its going way too far to say we will lose alot of decent players all in the same window though and not replace them with quality when the quality we have brought in for the dross we have let go is way beyond what we expected !

  • 106 stuart no9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    croftus @66—-“in all or pre-season games we have looked great buddy a completely different team ! no long balls and loads of passes and very direct

    sorry to upset the pards out crew but unfortunatly i say it as it is and in pre-season pards has done a complete u-turn imo.”——- thats coz we havnt played anybody yet. wait till we play the big lads, pards wont have a clue i”m afraid then its back to plan A hoooooooooooooof

  • 107 AmeriToon // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    Just wondering, does anyone else think west brom might be in a lot of trouble this season? They only have 22 squad members and they have lost lukaku who was a big player for them last season. I know they signed Anelka but he is 34 now so i wonder if he will be able to really make a big impact. WB is a well run club i would hate to see then go down

  • 108 croftus5678 // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:52 PM

    @105 stuart

    that could well be the case the prem is a different and harder league and he could fold (but i really hope he doesnt as i would never want my team to do bad)

  • 109 johnboy // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    Premiership manager

    Would have been happy with him at newcastle though!!!

  • 110 croftus5678 // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    @106 ameritoon

    i hope they do struggle and go down tbh it will be 6 more points easily gained for us and 1 spot less to worry about if we do get pulled into relegation battle.

  • 111 croftus5678 // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    i’ll be disapointed if we dont finish above

    scumderland
    wba
    hull
    cp
    cardiff
    southampton

    as it stands atm with no signings

  • 112 niafron // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    Sandro Rossel just valued Messi about 580 millions euros.

    So it mean a little bit more of 10 000 euros per fan in St James.

    Lads, do we really need car, house, holyday and all these sort of things?

  • 113 Hatem's better than Messi // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    I don´t believe a word JFK says.
    If he´s involved in negotiations he could blow it at anytime.

    It´s disgusting that this foul-mouthed man is representing Newcastle´s Football Club in any capacity.

  • 114 stuart no9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    croftus- nobody on this site wants to see our team play badly. however , i cant see a change this coming season , unfortunatly thats how we played last season- come the new season, why will it be any better- nothing has changed.
    Unless pards has had a total rethink on how he is going to approach games and how he is going to set his team out to win games , then i can only see more of the same .

  • 115 niafron // Aug 4, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    I’m off.

    Bonne soirée messieurs.

  • 116 Hatem's better than Messi // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:00 PM

    niafron

    We could all apply to Wonga …

  • 117 AmeriToon // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:00 PM

    @109 croft is
    Haha i never thought of it like that, i guess thats one less spot for kinnear to worry about once he kicks pardew out.

    I imagine even tho the scum have signed 8 players that they will have alot of trouble to cuz the only two of their signings i rate are altidore and that Italian from juve (cant spell his name). Di Casio seemed like a shock and awe manager, he was good to bring in and get their team going to avoid the drop, but now we’ll see if he can truly manage for a whole season

  • 118 Premiership Manager // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    Sparky just read your other posts. Tell me this, if we are going to sell our main players why are we now invest in players either at or past their peak aged between 26 and 29 who will have little re-sale value i.e. Cisse 27, Debuchy 28, Remy 27, Gomis 28, Bent 29.

    Cabaye and HBA are only worth £10M possibly a little more. They won’t improve and unfortunately HBA wont change which is why he can’t get in the France national team. If we sold HBA I wouldn’t loose any sleep as he’s a liability in possession and unbalances the team. Some people will disagree however I think Goufran works harder, tracks back, does the simple things well and will be a better player for us next year.

    If the Remy deal is done I doubt we’ll sign another forward but as everybody knows you never know what will happen next at the club

  • 119 croftus5678 // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:08 PM

    @116 ameritoon

    i try to be level headed and look at bot sides of everything but i must admit where scumderland are concerned i’m just blindly arogant :-)

    altidore was cack at hull and has only done well in america or az so he’s def going to fail very badly :-) “definatly” !!!!!!!
    and ye all there other players will refuse to play for them as they was lead to believe it was us they was signing for !

  • 120 AmeriToon // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    @118 croft us
    Lol of course! Di Canio has been claiming to be joe kinnear to make signings and we can’t make any because kinnear is an idiot

  • 121 mikeashleyisamackem // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    anyone heard that we are scouting in portugal

  • 122 Tinman // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    Best bundles in a last minute equaliser off his shin and some people want him back?
    Suppose you wouldn’t mind Simpson back since he had a decent game for the hoops?

    Fickle bunch ;)

  • 123 stuart no9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:20 PM

    west lancs@94 — coulnt agree more .

  • 124 croftus5678 // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    @120 mike

    yes m8 it came from after one of our friendlys where we said there was a lot of unscouted talent there and we need to look into it.

  • 125 sparky55 // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    croftus @ 104…Aye…I do…and knowing most bloggers on here will tear me to shreds if I was wrong I did think about saying nowt…but hey…I’m big enough and daft enough.

    cisse and cabaye won’t be the first and won’t be the last premiership players to publicly state they were happy and the next minute were gone either.

    I don’t regard it as a bad thing at all because we’ve got a good squad as it is but it needs to move on and that means some have to go as more come in…it’s the natural course of events because the squad will not be allowed to get any bigger because of the impact on wages.

    So long as we keep on recruiting we’ll be ok, and with Carr in charge of that we’ll be fine because JFK ain’t gonna be here much longer for sure.

  • 126 Tinman // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    Prem manager, although i disagree with a lot of the points you make in that post, I whole heartedly agree that our team has little or no balance. Same problem as our national side.

  • 127 Premiership Manager // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:28 PM

    Tinman

    Did you miss Guthries goal and the fact Routledge was outstanding last year?

    On paper Guthrie matched Cabaye on stats and was only just pipped by goal difference however he played half as many games. The difference is Guthrie just got on with it and didn’t get the credit he deserved when covering for Cabaye and Tiote,

    Simpson was for me a better defender than Debuchy however when you have to cover for HBA and a midfield that can’t pass or retain possession you do tend to get over exposed and the defence suffers as a result.

    Unfortunately because the defence concedes the midfield who gave the ball away and failed to support get off scot free. It’s a cruel game.

    It’s a fickle world.

  • 128 sparky55 // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    @117…because after last year the master plan is slightly off keel and we’re chasing forwards who can make an impact in the premiership after losing Ba last year.

    Four of the players you’ve mentioned are forwards and we’re after them because a) we’re desperate, and b) cisse is leaving.

    re debuchy…it was documented at the time he was older than the plan allowed but Pardew wanted a good right back and so it happened…but plans are made to broken I guess.

    In the main we are a club that buys young talent hoping they come good but we’ve certainly bought some duffers in the last three years, but to be fair a few good ones too.

  • 129 Jamesthefirst // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    Remy deal according to QPR blogs and forums:

    1) He has agreed to come to Newcastle on a 1 year loan.
    2) Newcastle are paying his wages in full.
    3) His agent’s are still negotiating a release clause so he is not tied to signing for us next summer. He wants to leave his options open next summer (Us, QPR, someone else).

    Point 3 is the only thing holding the deal up. He is coming to Newcastle according to their fans and their own “sources”

  • 130 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    @ Premiership Manager – Don’t misunderstand me, I’m not saying get rid of Pardew. I’m just saying enough of the excuses. The reasons for the awful performances/ style of play were not the relegation battle- it was like that from the start which was why we ended up in the scrap.

    Maybe, just once this season we could ditch the ‘floated set piece to the back post for a Williamson knock down’ tactic?

  • 131 stuart no9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    sparky @124 if the squad cant get any bigger as it will have an impact on wages, what your basically saying is – we are not going to be allowed to take the team to the next level ie CL or dare i say it , have a pop at trying to win the PL. coz thats how i see it. Look at bale. 90m offer from madrid and they still dont want to sell, that for me is an ambitious club wanting to keep their best players to compete in europe and win the league. Ashley would sell his granny if he could make a few bob out of it

  • 132 Jail for Ashley // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:33 PM

    Hatem,
    I think given that interview that JfK first gave it’s pretty obvious he has some kind of delusional issues it is not him that you should be angry with but the man who re hired him after he contrinbuted to our relegation and gave that foul mouthed interview first time round.

  • 133 sparky55 // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    @130…you sound surprised by that? what on earth makes you think Ashley or Pardew have any ambition..all he’s ever done since we hounded him out the ground is get the club in a good financial position so it can be sold…he has no ambition on the field at all…just an ambition to sell the club for as much money as he can because that’s his drug..doing deals and.making money

  • 134 aidytoon9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    Just hope we bring in left winger, ince or Sinclair would fit the bill.

    When joe said when we sort out forwards we will then look at next positition, where in team do you think he was talking about?

  • 135 Rotonda heights // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    Jail

    If Ash thinks he is really doing his old drinking mate a favour making him D.O.F, then I wonder of the 2, who is the more delusional ?

  • 136 Highland Mag // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    I’ve got a feeling it’s going to be a very positive week. Hopefully the old saying ‘good things come to those who wait’ is true in our case :-)

  • 137 sparky55 // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    @135…yep…it will be a good week this week…but then ready yourself for the bad news of who leaving

  • 138 Twatter // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    @aidytoon9

    Extra GK I think because Alnwick got injured the other night.

  • 139 aidytoon9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    Can anyone remember joe saying when he first came that he could pick up the phone and speak to any manager in the world lol.

    People have been saying for weeks that this will be a positive week then nothing happens.

  • 140 stuart no9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    sparky 55 sorry mate getting a bit mixed up there ,, i read it like you were in favour of selling the better players , making a profit then starting again . read it wrong . ignore whatever i thought hahaha, me heads gone .

  • 141 jazzyp // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:47 PM

    Evening guys
    Jamesthefirst@128-If that is the case mate I would not entertain Remy at all as this is showing that he is not really bothered about NUFC again.
    Remy out of all the forwards we are linked with is the one that excites me the most as he is something we have not got in our armoury .
    However the deal should be on our terms and conditions and not his. All he is going to be doing is using us as a stepping stone and again wishes to show no commitment to the cause-AGAIN !!

  • 142 Belfast // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:47 PM

    Was just about to say that aidytoon. lol

    Every single Sunday, next week will be a positive week apparently. I’m still waiting

  • 143 aidytoon9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    twatter

    Cheers mate was hoping that it was a left winger lol

  • 144 Jail for Ashley // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    Rotonda,
    I’m really not sure what the story is, John Anderson on Total sport or the lads at NUFC.com haven’t got a clue what he’s supposed to be doing, there must have been hundreds of people that are more qualified than him to do the job, we all know that a self made billionaire isn’t that stupid so there’s an underlying plan without a doubt !

  • 145 AlwaysTOON // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:48 PM

    is there a winning award in fantasy? :) anyone?

  • 146 aidytoon9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    Belfast
    Aye mate maybe next week eh lol

  • 147 sparky55 // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    @139…LOL…no worries….never easy being a toon supporter!

  • 148 Belfast // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    To be fair to Joke he did sound quite sensible today. Maybe the bar was shut all day

  • 149 SeanNufc87 // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    If every toon fan in the world took out a wonga loan, think we could buy the club?

  • 150 Ben3arfa // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    According to Sports Direct, Gomis will be in Newcastle by Wednesday. Seems possible. 8 Days is maximum according to Aulas. #NUFC #OL

  • 151 Belfast // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Expecting a breakthrough next week is something else I usually read every Sunday. I’m still waiting lol

    I suppose we just can’t get them “over the line” !

  • 152 croftus5678 // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    i think after a striker it will be a winger tbh based on the fact that it was pinpointed out as jk’s main priority area when he first became dof and that he just said we needed more goals across the park (to me that means midfield aswell as strikers)

    thats if it ever gets to that stage tbh i’m really hoping jk proves us all wrong and makes 3 signing when i personaly though we would only make 1 signing.

  • 153 aidytoon9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    If remy and gomis do come like that’s decent options as remy has had 6 months in prem now.
    Remy has loads of ability it’s just that he clearly more bothered about money going to qpr than playing in front of 50 thou.

  • 154 Tinman // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    Prem Manager,

    I don’t recall mentioning Guthrie or Routledge you absolute tool

  • 155 aidytoon9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    This time next week Rodney lol

  • 156 Jail for Ashley // Aug 4, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    Ben3arfa,
    Is that the same website that said we were in for Rooney and that Mike ‘the brave’ Ashley had the best interests of the club at heart.

  • 157 magpiesi // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    I heard right at the start of the summer we were signing a total of 6 players 3 for development squad and 3 for first team and then replace anyone who leaves after that.

    Ashley wasn’t happy watching a boring Newcastle last season so had them meetings with Pardew wanting a more exciting team and was ment to of discussed signing Bent for 6m on a 3 year contract, Sinclair on an initial loan at first for a season and Remy on a 6 month loan due to his court case. I don’t think Gomis deal is on unless they talked while the Cisse and Wonga story was out just in case. I think Lyon using us to boost his price and get interest as they need to sell some players this window and also helps Newcastle out as Villa think Newcastle are looking at other options.

  • 158 JFK junior // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:05 PM

    James the first – their blogs probably carry about as much truth and information as our blog.

    No way would they, or anybody else know the dealings and information regarding Remys contract, other than his advisors themselves, or either club. QPR arent daft, and neither is MA (despite what many think!)

    If he is loaned, it’s most certainly with an option to buy next summer. If their IS a get out clause, then it will prob be in case we get relegated.

    Wouldn’t worry mate! If THEY read OUR blog, then they will determine that Cabaye, HBA, Cisse etc are all leaving!

    Nobody believes a thing written on this blog, therefore why are WE believing what they write?

  • 159 jazzyp // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    Jfk
    Nicely put pal !!

  • 160 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    Sparky

    It could just be that you’re wrong about players leaving. Just saying.

  • 161 Jail for Ashley // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    Just watched the JfK interview and imo he seemed a nervous wreck obviously without a drink in him he’s not so full of bravado and expletives.

  • 162 Ben3arfa // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    Well here we are again

    Another Sunday night where I sit hoping that the coming week will bring a signing.

    Three LONG weeks since JOKE’s holiday and still nothing.

    Not so hopeful this time round if im honest

  • 163 jazzyp // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    Ben3arfa
    I think after the interview Kinnear gave today it has built a lot of Geordie hopes up.REMY AND GOMIS most definitely. And then move on to acquire additional targets that we may be after.

  • 164 bills-son // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    Sparky55,

    If we sign any two of Gomis, Remy and Bent and dont sell any purples you and JFA among others will have to eat humble pie.

    I still think we’ll two strikers and one or two other players and that the only player who may be sold is Cisse – although I think that will only happen if all three strikers are signed.

  • 165 valle // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    JFK Junior… Regarding our talk about ITK’s on this blog yesterday, I am starting to believe that there is no one, nor have there ever been who know anything really. Only people guessing and then harvesting some attention, or people who have best interrest at heart but who have heard some dodgy stuff from a cousin who heard it form his mechanics sister in law. This include Torque who you mentioned and who has suddenly disapeared after his latest rumours didnt come off.

  • 166 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    ONLINE GUY from a few threads ago:

    I assume you’re on the wind up, whilst it is sad to see the situation Coventry currently find themselves in there is absolutely nothing to suggest that we would have went that direction without Ashley.

  • 167 aidytoon9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    Ashley will pocket a extra 30 mil ish in tv money this eh?
    And has got rid of about 70ish a week off the wage bill by harper,Simpson,perch leaving, not bad business.

  • 168 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    Bills

    Why will they need to eat humble pie? It’s the 4th August, 2 weeks before the start of the season and we’ve signed no one, JFK has been an unmitigated disaster in his brief time as DOF which serves to show that MA either is a) clueless about how to hire staff or b) chose the cheapest option by signing one of his mates regardless of his qualifications (or lack thereof)

    Signing those 3 would be good business, but in the hands of Pardew, yet another one of the cockney comedy club, we will be heading for mid-table, at best, for the foreseeable future in my opinion.

    No pie of the humble variety to be consumed I fear.

  • 169 Jail for Ashley // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:21 PM

    Bills,
    I wil say a thank fusk for that and at last Mashley, but I certainly won’t be eating humble pie due to the circus that has surrounded us so far this summer, surely this is no way to conduct business as no other football club carries on like this, although on the upside for every bit of drama the words SD have had a bit of advertising.

  • 170 aidytoon9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    Thought for once when they said at end of last season we got things wrong that it would be sorted out in the summer in regards to making the squad stronger! But we still waiting.

  • 171 bills-son // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    Ruddy,

    Why dont you just roll over put your legs in the air and give up on NUFC?

    Reading your posts is like reading the Deaths column of the Chronicle.

  • 172 beddersmag // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    WLG

    You said yourself squad is weaker so lets not ship any more out until we get some more in, as this will only compound the problem. Obertan and williamson played many games in our 5th season and Gosling has just started to look decent so keep them in the squad for now i think

  • 173 JFK junior // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    Valle – what was said or promised that never came off?

  • 174 Jail for Ashley // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    Bills,
    The humble pie will also be getting binned due to the fiasco that has seen our star striker play just one game with his new team mates…… Oh hang on there aren’t any new team mates yet so it’s alright !

  • 175 beautifulmind // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:28 PM

    reading between the lines and listening to interviews of jfk and gomis I think we may only get darren bent as he is the only one that seemingly wants to come here. Gomis said on Friday that he will go to either Newcastle or Marseille. That seemed like a come and get me plea to Marseille and the delay may be a ploy by his agent to give Marseille time to come up with a deal. remy also does not appear to want to come to Newcastle on a permanent deal and with other clubs interested his options are still wide open. on a positive note though we havnt sold shola yet!

  • 176 JFK junior // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    Only asking as I must have missed something?

  • 177 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    Bills

    Or how about you actually deal with the facts? You selectively choose a mindset in order to attack those who disagree with you. “…the likes of JfA will have to eat humble pie”

    Why should it not be you who eats humble pie? Given that the facts points towards Ashley being no more than an unambitious penny pincher, it would actually mean that you’ve been wrong all along.

    Remind me why we should eat humble pie?

  • 178 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    I notice I’ve mentioned humble pie a lot in that last post. I think subconsciously I want pie…

  • 179 bills-son // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    Jail,

    The circus you talk and others talk about is 90% myth, shyte and hype.

    We are hard negotiators and the fact that we now have a reputation for getting players who are quickly worth more than we paid is making those negotiations increasingly harder and more protracted.

    The flip side is that we are hard negotiators when we sell – no bargains at NUFC. If we sign even two strilers and don’t Cisse we’ll have four strikers inc Gouffran and two never mind one will be on the bench. Thats why you should be eating humble pie if that happens.

  • 180 Jail for Ashley // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    Bm,
    Sounded very much like to me that they’re using one deal against the other so when he said we’ll be able to give a yay or a nay on Tuesday about Remy, that would suggest it hinged on another deal, I’ll put my neck on the line and say there’s no way on earth all three are coming in .

  • 181 check the toastie // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    Why would anybody believe what came out of Joe Kinnears mouth, most likely outcome is we sign nobody as Joe is way out of his depth, same as Pards. Why cant Ashley appoint anyone who is even a little competent in what they are supposed to be doing.

    Thank God for Graham Carr.

    And is Joe just working part time, he can have a day off when the transfer window shuts for f#ck sake.

  • 182 beddersmag // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:37 PM

    Jail give the guy a break hes at a charity event to raise money for the treatment of what killed his son, as i understand it. I would expect him to be fairly low key. If he was f’in and blinding you would have had a go. Numpty or not the guy simply cant win.

    Im not exactly chuffed with his appointment, but he doesnt hold the purse strings, and can folk please at least wait until the end of the window before we judge how poor hes has been in the role.

  • 183 Rotonda heights // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:38 PM

    bills son

    Bent would hardly be a coup seeing as no other team is seriously in for him.

    Gomis is now 28 and in the last year of his contract and the price has shot up incrementally from a widely reported 4M to the best part of 10M.

    Gomis is good but it’s sounding more and more like becoming a panic buy to vindicate Mashley’s insane appointment of JFK if indeed it does come off.

    Remy is the only one who would really represent a coup
    as we could then go back to a potent 433.

    Even if we belatedly get one of those 3 ” over the line ”
    without any time to bed them in, the fact remains Pardew continues to be employed as does JFK.

  • 184 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    check

    Carr is about as useful and t*ts on a pig for amount of players we bring in and the way they are used

  • 185 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    Bedders

    It’s August and we’ve signed no one. Unless we sign 3/4 players in the next few weeks he has been a failure.

  • 186 papscrunt // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    By all accounts Pardew and Carr don’t get on at all. Kinnear was brought in as a middleman to ease the tensions. DOF can work really well, we’ve just not chosen the right person to do the job. Some of the stuff I read on here often makes me laugh or shake my head at the crazy remarks. But Guthrie is better than Cabeye? I want to live on another planet.

  • 187 bills-son // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    Ruddy,

    As Jail will confirm I saud at the end of last season that I would eat humble pie with clotted cream if we failed to sign quality players without selling quality to pay for it.

    And I will.

    I made a decision many years ago to readily admit whenever I was wrong.

    You want to try making the same decision Ruddy.

  • 188 Bearsize // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    Maybe remy doesnt want to play wing. He seems lazy and full of himself. Maybe one of the reasons he did the u-turn to qpr. But who knows

  • 189 aidytoon9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    Bills-son
    But that still doesn’t show the club going forward as that is not enough. We finished 5th two seasons ago, it doesn’t matter if we are hard negotiators as even with remy and gomis that won’t say we will finish near top 5 . We have took ten steps back last season then brought in joe to sort out transfers. It makes no sense other than Ashley having more money in the bank.

  • 190 beautifulmind // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    jfa – I agree all three wont be coming. I think only one will eventually come in which is most likely to be Bent. imo Gomis will sign for Marseille and Remy to most likely a London club or even Liverpool if they lose suarez. Ashley wont be held to ransom or agents unreasonable demands and will simply walk away from a bad deal.. if however jfk pulls of two of the three then we will have a very good season.

  • 191 bills-son // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:49 PM

    Rotunda,

    Bottom line is Pardew and Ashley will be judged on results this season – not on the speculation, opinions, hype and shyte on this blog.

    Nothing more to say really is there.

  • 192 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:51 PM

    bills

    Why will Ashley and Pardew be judged on this season? Why not last season?

  • 193 bills-son // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:51 PM

    Aidytoon9,

    How do you know we wont finish 5th?

  • 194 bollance // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    Bills

    No bargains – James perch £700k

    Something though does not sit right with that deal! We signed him for more and he is 100x the player that arrived here.

  • 195 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:52 PM

    Bills

    I never said we would not sign any players. Gomis and Bent do not represent real quality, they represent decent signings for a rather small outlay.

    Remy would be a coup but we’re looking into signing him on loan, not actually fork out for him, granted this may be due to the legal case pending, but then again it may not be.

    JFK is a hideous appointment, and it is showing how badly we are suffering on account of him being in charge of transfers.

    Whether these players represent the quality we need will only show in time, not by the end of the window, so I am afraid any admission of being wrong will have to wait.

  • 196 scout // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    You’ll all be eating joes humble pie next week. Deal with it all 3 incoming lol

  • 197 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    Bills

    Pardew and Ashley have already been judged by many. In the eyes of a lot of people they have been adjudged to have failed.

  • 198 bills-son // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    Jack Butler,

    Why not judge them on the 5th finish season?

  • 199 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    I will say this though, I, like JfA, will be surprised if all 3 are signed.

  • 200 aidytoon9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    Bills-son
    Because I think that other teams are stronger than us now and we had decent luck regarding injuries when we finished 5th.

  • 201 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    bills

    We did very well to take 5th place, no argument from me on that, but then last season was a catastrophic failure as we almost penny pinched our way to relegation.

  • 202 bills-son // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    JackButler,

    They will be judged on this season simply because they are still here.

    Last season and all others are history.

  • 203 scout // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    Can’t blame Ashley for wanting to sign all 3, people wanna see goals not the boring pap served up last season.

  • 204 beautifulmind // Aug 4, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    should gomis and remy sign then top 5 finish is more than possible! Pardew will do well this season as a lot of lessons were learnt last season. if bent only signs then we will finish 8 or 9th imo

  • 205 beddersmag // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    Ruddy

    As i said the first opportunity to assess his performance would be at the end of August. However, without knowing the budget constraints he is working under, and whether any of these targets actually want to come to the club, this is pretty subjective.

    For example, he could literally charm the pants off remy but if he doesnt come i would hardly consider that a failure as he chose a small club in London for money once already and might simply not fancy it.

    The same applies to any player we are linked with. Loads of clubs with more money, europe, capital location and better form could easily be preferred options. No amount of negitiation skills would get you someone if they prioritise one of these things so they only way to try and assess it must be over time imo

  • 206 aidytoon9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    Scout
    No hope in hell in signing all 3 IMO.

  • 207 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    Beautifulmind

    Needless to say I think you’re over estimating where we will finish next season. I think you’ll be very disappointed.

  • 208 Jail for Ashley // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    Bills,
    As you know I was almost convinced that Mashleys way was working after that fifth place finish but he proved that he was making it up as he went along with last summers debacle and tge panic buys of January bringing in two strikers to
    replace the ten he has sold in his
    tenureship is a minimum requirement not an ambition.
    Bedders,
    See post 131.

  • 209 scout // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    Personally think we are the biggest certainty since the tortoise beat the hare to finish top 10 and its a good price as well.

  • 210 stopper // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:00 PM

    Well all in all this coming week seems to be the decider with regard potential incoming transfer targets after listening to our esteemed director of football (said with tongue in cheek) on SSN this evening.

    I had thought however that any interest in Bent was dead and buried last week after JFK’S meeting with Bents representative last week.

    However this renewed interest could just be more smoke and mirrors in and attempt to push through the Gomis deal as I’d did look like Kinnear was a little p?ss3d off with the goal posts being continually shifted by other parties.

    Just a thought.

  • 211 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    bills

    they’ve already been judged my most mate and to say that they have failed would be an understatement.

    We have good financal books and a great scout……thats it. Great players being given over to a second rate manager and Joe Kinnear as Director of Football tells you everything you need to know how we operate

  • 212 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:02 PM

    Bedders

    It would be a failure if they only pursued Remy and had no back up plan.

    If you cannot sign a player for whatever reason, you target the next one, if you do not have a next target then you’re not doing your job right.

  • 213 yo-yo // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    Two out of three and Ince would be good business – but only to stand still.

    The additional TV revenue has seen a lot of clubs investing heavily to consolidate their position. We can’t afford to go backward from 16th can we ?

    We’ve been two strikers down for some time – and that includes Strolla who really is a No5 striker and hardly at the peak of his career – then we react to events and it is really poor management all along.

    Our targets are hardly the height of ambition .. nor is the top ten finish already mentioned

  • 214 scout // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:05 PM

    Of course they’ll get the 3 Remy only a loan so in reality 2 signings.
    Krul
    Debs colo Yanga santon
    Anita sissoko cabaye
    Arfa cisse Remy

    This team will do some serious damage

  • 215 low fell mag // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:06 PM

    Instead of eating humble pie ,try supporting your Team.
    SMB !

  • 216 valle // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:06 PM

    JFK Junior… Signings were supposed to be in the bag 2 weeks ago. Also, the “ITK’s” always link us with the same people as the press, and we all know that the press usually get one right now and then and so will they. I have never ever seen us buy someone who an “ITK” had made me aware off before the press.

  • 217 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:07 PM

    Low fell

    Does supporting your team mean swallowing everything this twisted regime throws at us?

  • 218 scout // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    I expect higher than 10th im looking at it purely from a gambling point of view chaps

  • 219 Crow59 // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    Why does it seem to only be us that has these difficulties with getting players over the line?? I understand that financially at times things can be difficult but once deals and contracts are agreed its hardly rocket science.
    Hopefully a breakthrough early this week to get the ball rolling but still feel its to little to late.

  • 220 mikeashleyisamackem // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:09 PM

    abel hanandez is who we should be looking at

  • 221 beautifulmind // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:09 PM

    we may not finish as high as 5th but we certainly have the quality to do so especially if we replace ba’s goals.

  • 222 aidytoon9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:10 PM

    Yo-yo
    Good post, Ashley will receive a extra 30 mil from tv money, so if he spent that he is basically spending nowt!

    Why not use the extra 30 mil and throw 20 in himself and have a real go.

  • 223 Jail for Ashley // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:12 PM

    Low fell mug,
    I know that was directed at me, forgive my dyslexia I hope I didn’t offend you as I would hate to be barred again.

  • 224 check the toastie // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:12 PM

    Bills – you come up with some absolute beauts – I judge Pardew on the Liverpool home game and the fact he nearly got a team full of international footballers relegated. The most pathetic excuse of football over 90 minutes I have ever seen from a Newcastle side, but hey, lets still give the guy time. How much time, just enough to get us relegated eh……….

    And as for Ashley appointing JFK, well he is taking the piss and the appointment of him is a disgrace. The club lost any soul it had when Hughton left.

  • 225 low fell mag // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    Going to bed, but before I go Rml @ Jfa you sour faced people .
    This team next year is going to be as good as the entertainers,but until we win the European cup it will not be good enough for clowns like you .
    Your loss, Goodnight to tweddle dum @tweedle dee

  • 226 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    Low fell

    As good as the Entertainers? Behave.

  • 227 beddersmag // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    Ruddy

    We know they have at least two back up plans as he told us all, so by that rationale jfk is a success. Thank goodness :-)

    Jail,

    yes as the man in charge ultimately all accountability falls on him as with any such role. He puts the money up and chooses his staff.

  • 228 scout // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    I wonder what 1 million pounds means to Mike Ashley. It would completely change my life. I’d literally be squared away with a million. Couldn’t do everything I want to do but would work only part time and enjoy life.

  • 229 low fell mag // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    Jfa @ 222, you guessed right,SMB

  • 230 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    @low fell – best just go to bed because you’ve already started dreaming.

  • 231 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    Between the new TV deal and the Wonga sponsorship we will see an additional £30+ million coming into the club this season.

    Yet we are scraping around for last year of contract signings, loans and knock down valuation players, when club’s like Southampton, Swansea, West Ham, Norwich and the like are leaving us behind as they are showing more ambition than us something is very, very wrong

  • 232 scottoon // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:19 PM

    Been some time since I posted anything. Have to say that this window has been the worst. However, I refuse to balance my support on the nonsense at the top level, and will try and be patient and judge by what I see on the pitch. After all, that is why we love and support the side. It is frustrating ’cause we all want to see ambition, but no use pulling our hair out. I believe we have a solid core….yes we need strikers….and I also believe our core underperformed last year. Might be Pardew’s tactics, might be fitness, might be a paper thin squad, but for all of that, I will forgive if the side gels with our January signings and performs for us this season.

    If not…..well then I will hate the hierarchy!

  • 233 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:20 PM

    Bedders

    Bent and Gomis? Oh goody gumdrops…

  • 234 yo-yo // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:20 PM

    check

    The problem is that MAsh is a business not football man so we can have a great balance sheet but he is always going to be overtaken by events at the club – we are reactive not pro-active and constnantly get overtaken by events – dire fitness and conditioning last year was unforgiveable and might have contributed to the injury total
    Basically our aim of mediocrity says it all. As it us I can’t see us winning anything in my lifetime, unless AP massively overachieves…

  • 235 t00ntime // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:21 PM

    If we get Remy and Gomis why would we want Bent? He isnt as good as remy gomis or cisse. Why would bent come to a club where he will be a benchwarmer on less wages then he is on now?

  • 236 low fell mag // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:21 PM

    rml @ 225 yes I do believe. never mind we can agree to disagree.
    Never mind as you keep telling me there is a very good team in the north east ,they have just signed 9 players.

  • 237 Jail for Ashley // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    Low fell mug,
    Sleep well stool pigeon.

  • 238 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:23 PM

    Low fell

    Never once said Sunderland were a good team, they’ve made 9 signings compared to our 0. Merely an observation.

  • 239 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:23 PM

    nine players that wouldn’t make our bench

  • 240 aidytoon9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:23 PM

    Jack butler
    Very true and Ashley is also saving on wages from harper, perch, Simpson. He is not daft that’s for sure but his lack of ambition is holding us back and we are getting left behind.

  • 241 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:25 PM

    JB

    You’re right, Giaccherini wouldn’t make our bench. He’d make our starting XI

  • 242 stuart no9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:26 PM

    bills @ 178 — regardless of how hard we bargain for good players and how tough we are as negotiators when selling players – the bottom line is – we havnt bought anyone yet ( with 2 weeks to go ) we still have the same team that played shit football under a shit manager that uses shit tactics. right or wrong.????

  • 243 check the toastie // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:27 PM

    Gotta say I reckon Joe isn’t a bad bloke, probably a decent fella to have a pint with, however cant fail to think he is way out of his depth with his current job, you could almost feel sorry for him really.

    Unsure whether he is actually fit for post……could see him having another heart attack, which would be criminal by Ashley to let that happen.

  • 244 scottoon // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:27 PM

    I believe that chasing Bent and Gomis and Remy is a bit of a smoke screen. In reality, there is no way we are after all three unless Cisse is on his way out. But if Cisse is staying, and I believe he is, then the optics must be to make sure we don’t miss out. Surely we can get one of three over the line. None of this eggs in one basket planning like years past. Prefer it to be two out of three.

    Hope it is Remy and Gomis. Then bring on young Ince and job well done.

  • 245 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    Ruddy

    Not for me he wouldn’t mate

  • 246 low fell mag // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    RML 232
    Would you like to see Newcastle fail in getting Gomis in , just to get one over me or anybody else on this site who is pro NUFC.
    PRETTY PATHETIC,WOULD YOU NOT SAY!

  • 247 John Tudor // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    spot on stuart

  • 248 t00ntime // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    Sunderland made 2 good signings thats it. and 1 of which is Altidore who has had 1/2 good seasons in his whole career and only managed 1 goal in 20 bpl games for Hull. So personally would rather have Cisse. So 1signing that would improve our team.

    If we get Remy+Gomis, then we have done good imo. If Remy stays out of jail I’d rather have him than Giaccherini

  • 249 Crow59 // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    Xisco wage along with Harper, Perchy, Simpson plus perchys transfer fee can all be added to the tv and sponsorship deals, so come on mike pull you joker out

  • 250 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    Low Fell

    Of course I want the club to make a signing. Gomis is a decent player, not the 20+ a season striker to replace Ba.

  • 251 Highland Mag // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    Jackbutler

    Agreed! The mackems are doing what a few teams seem to be doing this pre season, liverpool also spring to mind, which is signing in bulk, with the hope that 1 or 2 players come good.

    We on the other hand seem to be the polar opposite…

  • 252 low fell mag // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    RML 240
    You filthy Mackem
    Please leave this blog

  • 253 CullysFinest // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    to start the season:
    Krul
    Debuchy Mapou Colo Santon
    Tiote
    Cabaye Sissoko
    BenArfa Cisse Remy

    Tiote has the presence and intensity to hold together the hole in front of the back four as long as he’s on his game, when he’s off his game, shambolic is an understatement, on his game there is few better, if he’s rocky in the first two games put anita in the whole with added defensive duties from kebab + sissoko , as what anita lacks in physical presence he makes up for in creativity. he was constantly overlooked last season for his creation yet he rocked up with something like 3rd or 2nd for chances created. Can’t help but feel sorry for Gouffran more often than not he’s left out when people list newcastles strikers when he’s got many traits we need in a striker, pace and will run at the defence, unfortunately he slightly lacks a significant end product.

    Subs – Elliot Haidara STaylor Obertan (say what you like) Tiote/Anita Marveaux Gouffran

    no place for jonas, excellent servent, horrendous player.
    Marveaux is far too talented for the bench i wouldnt blame him if he requested a new club, should of played over Jonas every game last season. if gomis was to sign he could replace obertan on the bench and earn his place in the starting XI, gouffran will surely be utilised as a winger this season should both remy and gomis sign on with us,

    Lastly, Mike Williamson 3rd choice goalkeeper, big lad

  • 254 Jail for Ashley // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    Me not being a master tactician cant fathom how Ba and Best can work but Ba and Cisse couldn’t you would have thought that a poacher and chancer like Cisse would thrive off somebody like Ba, which makes me wonder that if he can’t what will Gomis or Bent bring different.

  • 255 scottoon // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:34 PM

    No point in looking at 9 scum signings. Still an average side (at best) with a nutcase manager. They wouldn’t play for Bruce and O’Neill (decent pedigree those two) so it will all come down soon enough. I would take our standing still over any Scum signings….just no comparison of first XI. Still believe we will get some in, but this waiting, and posturing is torture.

  • 256 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    Highland Mag

    to be fair to Ashley and co, when we do sign anyone it’s a good signing, only problem being we don’t sign enough players when they are so obviously needed

  • 257 t00ntime // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    JB your rght about most signings but you know someone will point Obertan out lol

  • 258 beddersmag // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    Ruddy

    Which strikers should we be going for?

    And please be realistic. A french international from a top french side and an english international with a fantastic strike rate in the premier league. Both under 30. These targets are where we are at. We are not able to compete with the top 6 in any way, and top players dont want to come here. We are the next tier and work within a strict budget so i dont understand what type of striker you expect us to target?

  • 259 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    t00ntime

    any coincidence that Obertan was a Pardew signing???

  • 260 NUFC FOR SALE // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    I honestly don’t think we’re going to sign anyone.

    I think this has been the plan all along.

    Kinnear was brought in as DOF and given sole charge of buying players. Anyone with half an ounce of sense can see Kinnear is incompetent so would you expect him to sign anyone? Ashley knows this. We put stories out in the media to make fans think we’re trying to do business (help sells the new shirts and season tickets).

    Role on the start of the season, Pardew complains about no new signings, Kinnear makes a statement that NUFC have a good enough squad for any manager to avoid relegation.

    Pardew walks and Kinnear takes over.

    I always thought that Ashleys long term plan was to change the mind set of Newcastle fans…….make us so mediocre that we’d eventually accept our mid table status……I don’t think this was a bad thing as I honestly believe the ridiculous pressure and expectation our fans put onto players is the reason why we have been so unsuccessful in 60+ years.

    You only need to read this blog for a few days to realise we still have fans who think all it would take would be the signing of 1 or 2 players to be challenging for the top 4 again…madness….and this is exactly the ludicrous thinking of a lot of our fans.

    There have been plenty of ex nufc managers who have more or less said the same thing and the lack of silver wear doesn’t lie.

    Unless we are taken over by someone far richer than Ashley then we are never going to compete again at the top of the league. We need to start accepting the fact that we’re now a mid table club…and this is exactly what Ashley wants…mid table players, mid table wages = lots of profit for him to shovel into his other ventures (Sports Direct, Rangers etc)

  • 261 Twatter // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    Lads I wouldn’t be too worried about what Sunderland are doing – 9 signings yes, but the only one that actually impresses me is Giaccherini. Even if they’ve bought 9 gems (which I highly doubt — I mean, look at some of them – they’ve hardly got games in other inferior leagues as it is) it’s gonna take them a while to settle as a team.

    Get Remy and Gomis in and we’re far more well-equipped for next season, at least on paper anyway.

  • 262 scottoon // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    Cully – I will get railed for this, but I still like what Jonas brings to the side. He sets an example through his graft….never stops running…helping out Santon which allows Santon to bomb forward on overlaps. He is a leader, he wins so many free kicks. Yeah agreed, he doesn’t score, or set many up. But you cannot fault his effort and he is there for 90 minutes. Marveaux on the other hand, while an immense talent, will give you nothing in our end, and ghosts in and out of matches. Maybe if given more of a run he would start to produce but for me (for now) it is Jonas over Sylvain.

  • 263 Jail for Ashley // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:41 PM

    Low fell mug,
    In my entire time using this blog I have never once complained to Ed about the abuse I recieve from people like you, yet despite you calling me all sorts because of my opposing views on Mike Mashley I start calling you Low fell mug a few times and you get me barred, that is a truly cowardly and unwaranted act.

  • 264 t00ntime // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:41 PM

    JB tbh I dont believe it was just a AP signing. Surely we had scouts looking at him too. Same goes for Bent. Surely AP doesnt just randomly pick players and say I want him, to MA.

  • 265 aidytoon9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:41 PM

    By the end of this window we will know in which direction we are heading.
    Lets just hope this window is not wasted.

  • 266 NUFC FOR SALE // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    scottoon you’re right you’ll get railed for saying Jonas should play.

    Jonas 2 years ago..yes without doubt. Jonas now has no legs what so ever.

    His work rate was the only thing keeping him in the team and he doesn’t have the legs for that anymore.

    Jonas should be lucky to make the bench in my book.

  • 267 Lowesy // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    Kinnear doesn’t fill me with any confidence whatsoever!

    This interview, the whole 8 and a 1/2 minutes, was awful. Basically, what he says is that he wants two strikers, one to score about 10+ goals (we should be looking for 20+), the other striker will be on the bench most of the time unless called upon…. Bent won’t do that! Not after doing it at Villa! Gomis and Remy certainly won’t! He then goes on to say that they are his first options and that if he can’t get them he’ll turn to his ‘Second hitlist’. Now, if Newcastle don’t get Remy, Bent or Gomis and they go for someone on their second hitlist, how sh!t are they gonna feel being plan B, eh?
    THEN he goes on to admit that the only reason he was going to hire Mick Harford was because he was mates with him, rather he didn’t really need an assistant, just wanted his buddy around!
    Just his whole language, attitude and knowledge of things baffles me as to how he got this job!

  • 268 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:43 PM

    Bedders

    Gomis has 10 caps for France, but hasn’t featured in the last couple of seasons and Bent has been in international wilderness for a while.

    While these players are decent, maybe even good, they demonstrate that we’re after decent, not excellent players.

    Last season Villa signed Benteke, Swansea signed Michu, West Brom signed Lukaku (on loan), and Fulham signed Berbaton

    This season Norwich signed Van Wolfwinkle, exactly the type of player we should have been after.

    We supposedly pride ourselves on our scouting, so I assume we can pinpoint these players, yet we do not sign them.

    What does that tell you?

  • 269 West Lancs Geordie // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:44 PM

    It’s fine MA running a tight ship wageswise as we were nearly another Leeds the season we went down. But now with JFK no quick decisions will ever be made & we’ll keep losing transfer tagets like Bony (to Swansea) & Wolfswinkel (to Norwich). Are these two clubs bigger than NUFC now?
    Looking like loan deals our best option but no long term plan just papering over the cracks. I like Ince (Blackpool) would fit into the buy young and improve strategy & would give us pace & goals. But need a quality centre back & full back. Can’t understand interest in McCarthy at £10M+. Whelan wouldn’t sell him to us anyway with bd relations with MA

  • 270 lochinvar // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    Just concerned that some say that JFK more than likes a drink which if that was the case would get in the way of doing his job effectively. This is not going to impress or convince anyone about the top class credentials of NUFC. Remember his first radio interview on a Saturday night when he was less that articulate for some reason ? Somewhat coincidental there’s an article in the Sunday Sun today about how some players are on the streets due to drink, drugs and gambling, Kenny Sanson and Lee Hendrie amongst others. The PFA are looking after over 150 ex-pro’s with problems, lets hope they don’t have to extend their remit to DOF’s. Newcastle United is and needs to be seen as a World Class Brand, let it be so !

  • 271 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    *Berbatov

    Berbaton sounds like like a Transformer haha

  • 272 NUFC FOR SALE // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    Lowesy ….he got the job to do one thing and it wasn’t to sign players but to get rig of Pardew.

    We will not sign anyone, mark my words.

  • 273 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    I’ll get my coat…

  • 274 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    t00ntime

    I can’t see Carr recommending Obertan as if you look at all the players we know he’s been responsible for they are all technically solid players, very strong on the ball with a good all round game while Obertan is quick and little else. We may have had another scout look at him but i would be amazed if Carr himself signed off on the lad simply as he’s not good enough

  • 275 Lowesy // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:47 PM

    NUFC For Sale –
    Sh!t job he’s doing of that as well then!

  • 276 beddersmag // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:49 PM

    Jail

    Imo the reason Best worked well with Ba is that he was happy to run channels, come deep, was unselfish, failry strong in the air and mobile. Cisse wants to be on the last man just like Ba does, is not so good with back to goal (although improving) does not want to run channels and is more selfish.

    Basically i think they both want to be on the last man and in the box as much as possible. Ba can play quite well in a deeper role, but he doesnt want to do that really as the line leader tends to score more goals.

    Personally i think cisse would work well with gomis if he is as described ie shola on steroids, although i have not seen much of him aside from youtube

  • 277 CullysFinest // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    scottoon

    he’s past it mate no one in the league runs for their team like he does and you can’t do anything but praise him for it, however his greatest fans can’t dent his performances last season were poor considering both his work rate and assists/goals in our first two seasons back in the top flight, for a winger, in a team aspiring to be in the top 5, 1 goal 0 assists for a whole season is borderline shocking, where as marv brought 2 goals and maybes 4 or 5 assists through all competitions in far fewer performances, work rate means nothing if the teams not scoring goals

  • 278 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    To say anyone should be in the starting 11 because of their work rate is insane imo It should be a prerequisite of any player to work their arses off and those who don’t should not play

  • 279 Twatter // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:51 PM

    @Ruddy

    Benteke and Michu were unknown quantities when they moved to the Premiership, there was no telling how they’d fare when they came here, so that’s a bit of a cheap remark to make. Pardew clearly stated at the end of the season he wanted more experienced players which is why we’re now going after older strikers like Gomis, who by the way, is not simply decent.

    I think you’re just being cynical for the hell of it. You’ve really no clue how any of these new signings will fare if they end up here.

  • 280 t00ntime // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:51 PM

    JB yeah I dont think Carr would have recommended him either. I’m guessing like you said we had other scouts and they looked at him and AP said yeah go for him. I’m guessing our scouts in England arent too good. Though they did get Ba right.

  • 281 t00ntime // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    NUFC FOR SALE. If your wrong and we sign anyone for the senior team, I expect you to admit you were wrong and then stop with your crazy conspiracy theories

  • 282 aidytoon9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    Jones should be ASAP IMO as he is very poor. Yes he works hard but so do players in the northern league.

  • 283 aidytoon9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    Sold

  • 284 JackButler // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    t00ntime

    Ba was a no brainer though as he’s scored goals where ever he’s played and everyone could see that he was a very good player whereas Obertan played under the greatest manager the game has ever seen and did absolutely nothing

  • 285 Jail for Ashley // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    Bedders
    I like the sound of that, so if Gomis was prepared to do that while grabbing 15 a season with Cisse hitting 18/ 25 and (Remy with 13 lol) we should be doing ok.

  • 286 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:56 PM

    Twatter

    Gomis is decent, not a world class player, if he cuts the grade I’ll change my mind on him.

    Villa shelled out the guts on 9m for him, their scouts must clearly have rated him and thought he would do the business, which he clearly did.

    Michu scored 19 goals from midfield for a team that got relegated in one of the best leagues in the world. I’d seen him play a number of times, so the fact you think he was an “unknown quantity” says more about you than him.

    Scouts are paid to do the job of deciding who will or will not make the grade, I have no doubt that Carr has a list of other strikers who are much better than Gomis.

    The facts before me have led me to be cynical, it’s not exactly something I enjoy.

  • 287 scottoon // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:56 PM

    My point is more about preventing goals. As impressed as we all might be with Santon, he can be shocking defensively. Without the cover of an experienced LM he would be exposed all day. Now is we play Haidara, who I give more stock to as a defender, and is willing to run the sidelines all day long, then I agree that Jonas is due for the pasture. I guess it really depends on all of the parts, and how they fit together, but for me if Santon is first choice then Jonas still has a role to play.

  • 288 Mister Tuff // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:56 PM

    t00ntime – ref Obertan – he is definitely a Percy signing -Carr did an interview a long time ago and was a pains to stress to the interviewer that he had nothing to do with the transfer revealing it was Percys’ signing. I’ve posted previously the interview with quotes and cannot be bothered at this time to to track it down again.

  • 289 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    Him in the sense of Villa means Benteke.

  • 290 t00ntime // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    JB true. And now we are chasing Bent :S Would like us to sign english players or bpl proven players but our recent history shows the chance of us getting a good one is pretty small.

  • 291 beddersmag // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    Ruddy

    Agree on wolfwinkle btw.

    It tells us they didnt want to come and/or we wouldnt pay the money (probably the latter).

    On benteke and michu, i think many clubs missed out on scouting those two gems. They dont grow on trees though.

  • 292 scottoon // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    Jack – I think this is my point exactly.

  • 293 stuart no9 // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    NUFC FOR SALE @260 100% right . from being an ambitious club before ash took over, to being happy to be in the prem is all down to ashleys psychology in making the fans believe they are not worth more , by repeatedly giving excuses why signings now are so difficult to get ” over the line” when they are not . buying a player now is like watching coronation st,- always tuning in to see what happens next week – and the next – and the next. BUT his philosophy is working on a number of fans who have been sucked in by his greed and hatred for NUFC

  • 294 t00ntime // Aug 4, 2013 at 10:59 PM

    Mister Tuff. Really? Pards messed up there then :S. Though at the same time why would we sign a player we havent scouted our barely scouted.

  • 295 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    Bedders

    Van Wolfswinkle chose Norwich over us? If that’s the case then that is as sad an indicator of the direction our club is heading as there will ever be.

  • 296 Lowesy // Aug 4, 2013 at 11:04 PM

    Watched the Derby vs Blackburn game today, Will Hughes looked bloody decent, well worth the hype. Thought I’d bring that up. Would be nice to get him and Ince wouldn’t it? Also, always been a fan of Rhodes who just happened to be playing in the same game.

  • 297 prashanth // Aug 4, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    LOL@Kinnear i thought he wanted to address specific areas on the pitch but he is redefining the positions themselves. He says we are looking for a top ‘Scriper’ and ‘a Sister’… man, opposition teams have no clue whats about to hit them this season. (watch interview between 5:10 and 5:40)

  • 298 Twatter // Aug 4, 2013 at 11:06 PM

    @Ruddy

    Gomis has scored 10+ goals consistently for the past seven seasons and he’s only decent? Many strikers would love a record like that.

    Tell me, what do you make of Wilfried Bony?

  • 299 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 4, 2013 at 11:10 PM

    Twatter

    Can he do it in the PL? I don’t class Ligue 1 as a top league. Chamakh scored over 10 goals in the few seasons prior to signing for Arsenal, and he’s terrible.

    Bony looks very powerful, not overly quick but can hold up the ball and is strong in the air. 12m was a bit much for him but physically he might cut it. If Gomis is going to cut it in the PL it will be on the back of his physicality too.

  • 300 Mister Tuff // Aug 4, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    t00ntime – how we ever had an interest in Obertan still mystifies me. I did a post yonks ago plotting his career. Even when at Bordeaux he was not prolific on the goals front. Cannot recall exactly but he has never scored more than 3 or five in a season. Even after his injury at Manu -he never excelled or lived up to earlier expectations. some say he has suffered a lack of confidence -not so -it was just a matter of months ago that he was saying that he believed he should be in the France squad. Red nose sold us a lemon.

  • 301 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 4, 2013 at 11:14 PM

    NUFC at the moment has mediocre printed all over it.

    Mediocre players and targets.
    Medicore wage and transfer budget.
    Mediocre recruitment in staff.
    Mediocre in regards to a lack of planning and structure within the club.
    Mediocre in terms of negotiating skills.

    All suggesting we are just happy to be in the Premier League and float about in mid-table. So long as we are safe, that is OK for Mike Ashsley.

    And the most worrying thing about it is we have just been given millions upon millions to spend and we still tippy tappy about.

    Zero ambition.

  • 302 magpiesi // Aug 4, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    All this negativity about transfers if you look at the squad for the first team once Remy if he signs the first 11 pretty much picks it self with players only needed to compete for a starting place for the bench required.

    Krul,debuchy,colo,mym,santon,tiote,sissoko,Cabaye,Remy,Cisse,HBA you could swap someone for Anita from cm. marveux as cover for Cabaye or play goofy out wide instead. Leaving Taylor,willo,obertan,amoebi’s,Jonas and the remaining kids fighting for a spot on the bench against the new so called players we are trying to get. So not to bad really. I think a big problem over the years has been that players play crap knowing they won’t get dropped next game.




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