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Rangers 1 Newcastle 0 – Full Match Report

10:08 pm, Tuesday, August 6th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 183 Comments

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Here is a full match report of tonight’s 1-1 draw with Rangers at Ibrox, in front of a very decent crowd for pre-season, and Newcastle started for the first time with their new home black and white strips, as Rangers were in their customary famous blue strips.

Newcastle got off to a very bad start at Ibrox and were a goal down after just 6 minutes and it was Hatem Ben Arfa who didn’t challenge for the ball that led to the goal.

The ball was immediately played to Nicky Clark in the penalty box, and he went down when challenged by Newcastle captain Fabricio Coloccini, and referee Steven McLean showed no hesitation in giving the penalty, and the Rangers captain Lee McCulloch put the ball past Tim Krul who dived the right way to his left, but couldn’t get to the ball.

Soccer - Pre Season Friendly - Rangers v Newcastle United - Ibrox Stadium

Lee McCulloch scores from penalty spot after 6 minutes

That’s a fault in Ben Arfa’s play, that he is sometimes sloppy around his own penalty box, and Alan Pardew will not be happy at the way this goal was conceded.

Jonas Gutierrez was starting to show up well and after 7 minutes he got down the left wing well and put in a good cross that was put out for a corner.

Cabaye’s corner kick was met on the volley by Mathieu Debuchy and he hit the ball  brilliantly on the volley, but goalkeeper Bell blocked the shot.

And then Jonas again played well and got in a cross that Papiss Cisse just couldn’t reach, but the ball then went loose to Ben Arfa who hit a decent shot just wide of the target.

More good work by Gutierrez and Santon on the left wing set up a chance for Yohan Cabaye,  who sent in a beautiful shot which was only just off target.

After 26 minutes Newcastle could have had a penalty, as the ball rebounded to Moussa Sissoko, following a Cabaye effort, and Moussa tried to chip the ball in, and it hit a Rangers defender and it looked like a hand ball – but referee McLean waved play on.

Newcastle were dominating this game, but just couldn’t get a goal, and after 29 minutes Ben Arfa set up Davide Santon who unleashed a terrific swerving shot, but keeper Bell saved it – but at the seocnd attempt.

After 34 minutes Rangers almost scored a second goal,  as Wallace beat a couple of Newcastle players before setting up Daly,  but his shot was easily saved by Tim Krul.

Gutierrez was outstanding for Newcastle in the first half, and after 39 minutes the Argentine sent in a good cross that Cisse headed back across goal, but his header was not strong enough and Bell saved again.

Four minutes before the break Sissoko was fouled by Arnold Peralta, and the Frenchman reacted and then had to be dragged away by Jonas, as he confronted the Rangers player.

Two minutes from half time Ben Arfa had a terrific shot which was only inches off target – a good effort from the French International – but Newcastle just couldn’t get the ball into the back of the net.

Half time came and Scottish Second Division Rangers were hanging on to their one goal lead.

Alan Pardew made two changes at the start of the second half,  with Rob Elliot coming on for Tim Krul, and Frenchman Yoan Gouffran was on for Ben Arfa.

Rob Elliot was straight into action and after three minutes of the second half Rob did well to tip the ball over the bar after a good effort from Clark.

Alan Pardew had Dan Gosling, Sammy Ameobi and Paul Dummett warming up for Newcastle, and it looked like they will come on at some point in the second half.

After 64 minutes Paul Dummett replaced Davide Santon, and Sylvain Marveaux came on for Moussa Sissoko, who was booed by Rangers fans after his problems he had with Arnold Peralta in the first half.

Newcastle needed a goal here to get back into this game.

After 68 minutes Marveaux set up Mathieu Debuchy, but the right back was way off target with his shot, and then after  70 minuets Rangers’ Crawford hits a great shot which flew just over the cross-bar – a good effort from the Rangers’ man.

And then on 71 minutes Gutierrez once again left McAusland and Peralta for dead, and Jonas got into the box, but he fell over the ball, and Newcastle were not playing well in the seocnd half.

Two minutes later Fabricio Coloccini, Papiss Cisse and Cheick Tiote were replaced by Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Shola Ameobi and Vurnon Anita, to give the lads a run-out.

On 81 minutes Alan Pardew brought on Dan Gosling for Yohan Cabaye and Sammy Ameobi for Gutierrez, and all the Newcastle subs had been introduced into this game.

With 5 minutes to go Shola Ameobi put Dan Gosling through and the 23 year-old was quickly into the box, and his terrific cross went right across the goal, but no Newcastle player was there to put the ball home.

And then would you believe it but as time ran out, the Ameobi brothers created a late goal for Newcastle.

Young Sammy got to a loose ball and put it inside to his brother Shola, and Shola put in another great finish to equalize – and it was Shola’s fourth goal of pre-season, and every one of them has been an opportunist goal from the 31 year-old.

And the referee blew his whistle and that was it – and it was a decent result for Newcastle, and a good work-out for the side, and all the subs managed to see some action too.

Next up for Newcastle is SC Braga at St. James’ Park next Saturday night – kick-off 6:00 pm in the final pre-season game.

Rangers (4-4-2): Cammy Bell; Richard Foster, Lee McCulloch (Sebastien Faure 46), Belil Mohsni, Lee Wallace (Chris Hegarty 69); Arnold Peralta (Fraser Aird 78), Ian Black (Andy Murdoch 55), Lewis Macleod (Robbie Crawford 46), Nicky Law (Kyle McAusland 63); Nicky Clark, Jon Daly (Andrew Little 58)
Subs not used: Scott Gallacher, Barrie McKay, Luca Gasparotto, Andy Mitchell

Newcastle United (4-2-3-1): Tim Krul (Rob Elliot 46); Mathieu Debuchy, Steven Taylor, Fabricio Coloccini (c) (Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa 73), Davide Santon (Paul Dummett 64); Cheick Tiote (Vurnon Anita 73), Yohan Cabaye (Dan Gosling 80); Hatem Ben Arfa (Yoan Gouffran 46), Moussa Sissoko (Sylvain Marveaux 64), Jonas Gutierrez (Sammy Ameobi 80); Papiss Cisse (Shola Ameobi 73)
Subs not used: n/a

Referee: Steven McLean

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  • 1 jeff // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:10 PM

    MY TEAM FOR CITY

    Krul
    Debuchy Mbiwa Colo Santon
    Anita Cabaye Sissoko
    Marveaux Cisse Remy

    ben arfa is a one-trick pony, mbiwa is ten times better than saylor and theres absolutely no need for me to validate anita > tiote and remy > jonas

    this formation can also play 4-3-1-2 if the opposing fullbacks arent getting up much letting marv drop into the hole

  • 2 beautifulmind // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:11 PM

    Francesco – and what was said?

  • 3 Toonboy_84 // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:13 PM

    Fransesco.

    Are you Jeff?

  • 4 89Norcal // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:13 PM

    jeff
    Please man….Cisse and Remy couldn’t hold a candle to Shola and Jonas.

  • 5 geordie157 // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:14 PM

    starting to think keep Gosling but loan him out, regular games could do him the world of good. I do like his knack of getting in the box

  • 6 TheToonKing // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:14 PM

    It’s safe to say Shola will start against City….that’s 4 goals now in 4 games…. Pardew will go mental..

  • 7 Finnbad The Sailor // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    I don’t understand how Shola keeps doing it…it’s simply mind boggling.

    I was hoping that this match and the Braga would show how Pardew was planning on lining up / tactics.

    It was hard to tell from tweets how the game went. A few people were going to the match that comment on here so hopefully there’ll be a better account of how it went on here tomorrow / tonight.

    Hopefully the Braga game goes a little bit better as I’m looking forward to actually getting my football fix after this summers drought again.

  • 8 Steven // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    I have no doubts in t fact shola will be on t bench king arfa has to start at city

  • 9 aidytoon9 // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:18 PM

    If shola starts against citeh then I have seen it all from pardew.

  • 10 paul24 // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:18 PM

    Heres Shola’s stats from last season, try argueing he isnt s***e now.

    Total Appearances = 34
    Games started = 11
    Games played as a sub = 23
    Goals = 4
    Assists = 2
    Yellow cards = 7
    Red cards = 1
    Shots taken = 45
    Shots on target = 21

  • 11 geordie157 // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:18 PM

    I have a bad feeling that five mins in vs City, Silva will skip past Debuchy and be hacked down for a pen.

    On the plus side, Krul then saves the pen….mis kicks his clearance so its actually accurate and Remy steams through and smashes one in.

    We then lose 4-1. As pards parks the bus and subs remy

  • 12 CullysFinest // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:18 PM

    i have foreseen alan pardews morning statement

    ‘we have good players in remy and cisse, but we have a fantastic player in big shola, he has come up with the goals recently and will start against man city im sure, possibly a lone striker. im confident jonas will start too’

  • 13 FatmanJoe // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:21 PM

    4 goals in 11 starts really isn’t that bad considering Shola is considered our weakest striker.

  • 14 Ben3arfa // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    So Remy will not be fit for the start of the season and Gomis is unlikely to happen.

    Back to square One for us

  • 15 Felipe // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    Think you’ve got the score wrong there Ed!

  • 16 jeff // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:24 PM

    could not care less who we bring in

    we have a good squad, just a terrible and tactically inept manager. starting to think i might prefer jfk

  • 17 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:24 PM

    Did anyone actually see the game tonight?

    …if so how was it?

  • 18 paul24 // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:27 PM

    @fatmanjoe

    Only 1 was scored in Premier League. The other 3 were in the Europa League, a penalty against, Metalist Karkev, and 2 others against some other s**t kickers i’ve forgotten the names of.

  • 19 Ginger // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    Can’t say I’m surprised.

    Sissoko is not a right winger, nor is Ben-Arfa a CAM. Ben-Arfa plays brilliantly on the wing yet absolutely god awful through the middle. Glad to see Guttierez proved me wrong and actually had a good game today.

    4-2-3-1 clearly does not work, not to mention the fact that he is misplaying players out of position. This blog had me convinced that he’s learned from his mistakes, apparently not.

    More then likely the same team will start against City and we will get thwarted, then it’ll be somebody else’s fault. Pardew can’t take the blame for anything.

  • 20 aidytoon9 // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    Pardew needs to wake up quick.
    How can he not see Anita should be playing regular football.
    How can he not see jonas is shocking.
    The club said after last season that they have learned by their mistakes, pardew clearly has not.

  • 21 FatmanJoe // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    How many premier league starts?

  • 22 Ben3arfa // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:30 PM

    whats the point of having a supposedly good squad if the manager is shit though? lol

    May as well throw in the towel

  • 23 scout // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:30 PM

    Absolutely no chance shola will start against city. I would bet anyone that he doesn’t start.

  • 24 Ginger // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    I wonder what goes on in that mans head.

  • 25 89Norcal // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    lol CullysFinest. you guys always get me with the tongue in cheek Pardew quotes

  • 26 scout // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    Well put on a show against city, maybe we will get beat but not stuffed, no way

  • 27 beddersmag // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    Aye joe but the goals probably came in his 23 sub appearances. And 0 in 11 wouldnt look too grand. Great interpretation of the stats though :-)

    The record is 4 in 34, and if he was a better player he would have had more starts.

    Gutted we need to rely on him again as one thing he has done consistently is threaten to be good, and let us down. Cant let myself hope he has turned some kind of corner. Must just be a good run of goals. Hes still slow, lazy and cant direct his headers.

    Ok good servant to the club, dont wish him ill, but its not like he has had many other options and luckiest guy alive i reckon to have the career he has had at the toon.

  • 28 89Norcal // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:34 PM

    Shola actually looked quite promising and had some decent pace and workrate….. back in 2000

  • 29 scout // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    Season kick off practically 2 weeks away and it’s blind panic because we played badly in a pre season game. Come on lads, think about it.

  • 30 bzak12 // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    Massive news on Twitter we’ve had bid of 12Million accepted by Man utd for Hernadez

  • 31 paul24 // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    @FatmanJoe

    4 Premier League starts

  • 32 JackButler // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    scout

    It seems we are playing exactly like we did last season which is a serious worry

  • 33 FatmanJoe // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    Not trying to twist stats, just asking that others don’t do that either.

    Glad someone is willing to do the research I can’t be arsed to do!!!

  • 34 Toonacious T // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    @Ginger…’We’ll get thwarted’…we’ll get twat’d more like!

  • 35 aidytoon9 // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    Scout

    I don’t think it’s blind panic and I know it’s preseason and all that but if that’s the way he will be setting up his team it looks canny worrying to me.

  • 36 potski // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    Of course, Shola won’t start. I don’t believe he will even be at the club if Gomis arrives in the next ten days. Good work during pre-season, but we know he can’t play more than 60 minutes in a game and can’t start two games in a row.

    Steven

    “king arfa has to start at city” he started tonight and hardly got a mention in the twitter feed.

    I’d start:

    Remy – Marv – Gouffran
    Cisse

  • 37 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    Let’s put in this way. We need Shola on the bench to be the last-minute killer. Is that obvious?

    And we gotta have someone to go in front of Pardew’s face criticizing his tactics and come back with some response.

  • 38 FatmanJoe // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    1 premier league goal in 4 premier league starts.

    Pretty good :-)

  • 39 SupaToonKid // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    I’m not too fussed about Tioté (would prefer Anita) against City as his & Sissoko’s strength may be needed to fight off Yaya Touré and Fernandinho. Steven Taylor & Jonas starting ahead of Mbiwa and Gouffran or Marveaux is ridiculous. Watch us create nothing & concede loads with them 2 Pardew puppets/muppets in Jonas & Saylor mucking around.

    My XI would be:

    Krul;
    Debuchy, Coloccini, Mbiwa, Santon;
    Tioté, Sissoko;
    Cabaye;
    Ben Arfa, Cissé, Marveaux;

    Subs: Elliot, S. Taylor, Dummett, Anita, Vuckic, Jonas, Gouffran

    Need Marveaux’s creativity; even though he’s better placed as a CAM. Vuckic on the bench is a must as he offers so much more than the Ameobi duo. If only Remy was fit, I’d have him on the left of the attacking trio with Marv on bench and Jonas nowhere in site. It will be very sad seeing Pardew’s lineup though.

  • 40 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    @bzak12, link please.

  • 41 Ben3arfa // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    Yer WOW Shola scored against a Scottish Second Division team , he will surely score the winner against City now

    lol some people seriously lack common sense

  • 42 beddersmag // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:39 PM

    Bzak12

    Thats just naughty dont get out hopes up.

    Im hoping the fact we are apparently working harder than ever in training is leaving us jaded in matches. Hopefully when we get into the season we will ease off slightly have couple rest days and be fighting fit and fresh for city. I hope……

  • 43 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:39 PM

    Remy, Gomis and Hernandez? That’s totally unreal and wasting money.

  • 44 lesh // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:41 PM

    DokToon…

    Just in case you don’t know, but Shola and Jonas are to be the stars of the coming season!

    Stick with it and go easy on the Broon (aka Dog), it can leave a bit of an overhang next day.

    My old man always drank in moderation and he used to tell me that two or three pints, two or three times a night is quite enough.

    Er?

  • 45 bzak12 // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:41 PM

    Pizzicato TFS Newcastle United have tweeted but it is also trending on twitter.

  • 46 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:41 PM

    There are always players staying on the bench and do something later on. When these players are in the starting 11, they do nada. That fits the scheme and the bill.

  • 47 paul24 // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    @FatmanJoe

    Been looking at Gouffran stats and his are actually worse, might hold off the Shola abuse for a bit :P

    14 Starts
    1 Sub
    3 Goals
    0 Assists

  • 48 yo-yo // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:43 PM

    The Tiote versus Anita argument is basically that Anita is too lightweight for the EPL but the skill versus brawn argument isn’t so clear cut. If it has to be that Tiote starts against ‘heavyweight’ teams and Anita ‘lightweight’ teams then at least that would be progress on automatic selection of Tiote regardless of form .
    Does the Dutch league only have lightweights ? Anita was very successful there and is a much better distributor of the ball than Tiote

  • 49 89Norcal // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:44 PM

    expecting another stat monster season from Jonas again.

    ~30 Appearances
    0 goals
    1 assists

    World class, I’m sure you all would agree.

  • 50 FatmanJoe // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:44 PM

    Tiote and Anita both came from the Dutch league.

    I think they’re completely different players personally.

  • 51 paul24 // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:45 PM

    @yo-yo

    Tiote played there, and i’d hardly call him lightweight.

  • 52 Toonacious T // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    Hernandez is a player I have always wanted at Toon so there is no way it will happen I’m afraid.

  • 53 Rooster // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    We really do need some fresh players in, to many of our first team/ know they are going to start, every game in pre season has followed the same pattern, we still fail to dominate ANY team, all this getting players over the line bollocks has to stop, just get them in asap, ,A get your thick thick cheque book out and don’t loose out on deals for the sake of half a million quid, its the way of the world dealing with agents, we just have to get fresh faces in to this club, the same pattern is emerging, is it going to be the case of individual efforts pulling us out the shite all season I can see it at the moment, our teamwork is awful, we play as individuals totally. SHAKE IT UP PARDEW, I cannot trust this man with quality players at this moment. if MA does then he only wants prem survival, get some bloody players over the frigan line now MA stop fcuking about its annoying as hell.

  • 54 Do the shaka hislop // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:47 PM

    Who let jeff back in? Where’s ruddy to chase him outta town when ya need him.

    on the footballing line, braga should be looking at first game team and tactics, but hell if shola is on the bench least the big turkey has finally found a vein of form. Not saying I want him to start but if weve only got ciss and remy then id rather the lad notched a few to get his confidence up.

    Just imagine strolla making mincemeat of kompany and lescott… shame I feel we are still looking defensively weak… dinna if debs will hack it, would rather do a straight swap for richards if city are interwsted like

  • 55 Jail for Ashley // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:47 PM

    Watching SSN and this Green fellah spouting off, , they’re going to think Mashley is the knight in shining armour mwhahaha

  • 56 yo-yo // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:48 PM

    Ginger

    I don’t like 4-2-3-1 either. The fat waiter had some pretty boring sides out though they were successful – but then he zonal marked as well so the backtracking wasn’t as necessary.

  • 57 89Norcal // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:48 PM

    Not confident in our defense either. Got some good defenders outside of Santon but if we concede early the defeatism will seep in.

  • 58 yo-yo // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    Fatman Paul

    But they seem to be competing for the same starting place at the Toon now we have Sissoko too..

  • 59 Ben3arfa // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    Aulas has come out tonight and pretty much blamed Marseilles for tapping up Gomis and holding up the deal.

    Looks like Gomis and his agent Piere Ferlot want him to move to Marseilles but since they cant afford him unless they sell that fat gypsy Gignac to us, everything is at a standstill

    This is all beyond unprofessional and if our transfer team had a pair of nuts they would walk away from this deal and go after another target.

  • 60 paul24 // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:51 PM

    Wheres this talk of Javier Hernandez coming from, is there any evidence any where or is it just s**t stirring?

  • 61 francesco-hba // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    President Aulas has just said that he was very disappointed on the no-way situation on Gomis, and that he was very pessimistic.
    He said that Gomis contract ends on next summer, and or he signs a lyons contract (but he doesnt want) or he leaves the club. He will be reintegrated on late august if he doesnt leave.
    Aulas say that he talks again with Kinnear few hours ago, and the problem seems exist in the Gomis’agents fee and options. He also says that he has lodged a complaint at the French federation (or uefa..) because others clubs have made dishonest offers so as to going against this transfer.

    So, there are many mysteries about this case, but it seems that Gomis is not very very kind to come at newcastle because the contract’s options are a problem, and Aulas said that in the situation of Gomis (apart of the group) he should have accept to leave, because we are talking about a 300K € 400K € per month so…..

    p.s : i m not jeff, he didnt put my favourite player (hatem!!!) in his XI against City, shame !!

  • 62 paul24 // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    I’d rather see Anita starting more, Tiote’s record for card collecting makes him a liability. Anita seems to be a much ‘cleaner’ player and more skilled aswell.

  • 63 JackButler // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    We can bring in as many players as we like but when the manager employs tactics that and formations that do not suite them it becomes a waste of money.

    Pardew and his staff have already been called out on the training sessions last season by the one player who seems to be impossible to drop

  • 64 FatmanJoe // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    I think Anita was brought in as Cabs replacement, I don’t think Anita and Tiote are fighting for a place at all.

    I wish Anita was given more of a chance, I think Cabaye was missing loads last season.

  • 65 scout // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    Hernandez will be looking for first team action, maybe a year loan like the remy deal but 12 million seems for nowt, the kid is worth 20 million all day long

  • 66 beddersmag // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    Yo-yo. Not lightweights but prem is far more physical and refs tolerate more aggression here which helps tiotes cause.

    Dont forget tiote was instrumental in winning twente a dutch title such was his impact there, which overshadows anitas achievements in a better side.

    However i dont base anything about anita on previous clubs. It just what i have seen of him so far he’s a bit too weak and gets bullied in the middle here in the prem.

    Maybe he will adapt and beef up this year but imo he is cabayes understudy. One or the other for me, with tiote.

  • 67 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    Again, would there be anyone here going in front of Pardew telling him to start Anita more? If I am in Tyne Side, I would love to do so.

  • 68 Offkey // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:59 PM

    bzak12 // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:41 PM – that was started by a scum fan – if you see the original it has a link to their win at ours

  • 69 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:59 PM

    and it happens that I can’t find that twitter thing. Would someone post the words here?

  • 70 scout // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:59 PM

    Arizona Geordie
    I feel your passion but bumping into Pardew in tyne side can prove a difficult task pal

  • 71 paul24 // Aug 6, 2013 at 10:59 PM

    @Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie

    I think most people would take his notepad off him and tell him to find another job to honest.

  • 72 paul24 // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    *to be honest :P

  • 73 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    @Offkey, if it’s a Mackem joke, that’s hurtful…. or not?

  • 74 Offkey // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:01 PM

    Hernandez is a hoax – mick taking

    Steven C.H ?@IPartyWithPaolo 2h
    “BREAKING NEWS: Newcastle have a £12million offer accepted by Man Utd for Hernandez!
    #NUFC #MUFC

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/284903/report …” Good signing
    Retweeted 135 times

  • 75 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:03 PM

    I understand that’s so tough. Man, Anita is wasted here and I don’t want to see that happening anymore!

  • 76 cleggy78 // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:07 PM

    Hope remy loan isnt a wonga loan borrow 2 million for a year then give qpr 23 mill after 12 months and they keep him after scoring 18 league goals to take us to 6th

  • 77 bobby mango // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:08 PM

    Jeff it’s not a bad team at all… But is Marv really better than HBA?? The rest I agree with.

    Doubt Pardew will drop Tiote though.

  • 78 Pokat // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:10 PM

    I would just like to remind you all that Pardew brought us the 3-0 home stuffing by the worst scum side that ever dragged their knuckles over grass. He would have to win the FA cup against them this year to redeem that one. He knows only one thing -when we are in deep curry bring on Shola to scuff an equaliser. After that he is out of ideas.

  • 79 paul24 // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:12 PM

    @Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie

    I agree, he played well at LB when Martin Jol was coach at Ajax. He was first choice as DMF after that, such a waste leaving him on the bench.

  • 80 paul24 // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    @Pokat

    First defeat to the scum on home soil in 12 years if i remember rightly.

  • 81 Pokat // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    We have a squad of very talented players that could be made to play as a formidable team, in Europe, let alone PL. However in Pardew we have given a chimp a box of Rolex watch parts.

  • 82 ballerfan2 // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    Best players in black and white tonight – Shola, Gutierrez and Marveaux. IMO.

    Worst – Sissoko (for a big guy he is knocked off the ball so easily, and could easily have been sent off for needless retaliation).

    Most ineffective – Cabaye, Cisse,

    Also both keepers distribution was very poor.

  • 83 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    @paul24, just for that, Pardew should have been sacked.

  • 84 JAMSHA // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    Poor scums…time for dem to go down this season…. hope we trash them 8-0

  • 85 paul24 // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    @ Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie

    Problem is though they cant sack him without a big pay off, so my guess is Ashley is trying to make what he does look better by buying some new players to get the fans of his back. It’s like the old saying “You cant polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter”.

  • 86 Pokat // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    @80 – its like severe trauma – most fans have blocked it from memory. And then we got humped by the skiprats. Ummm lovely. Pardew is a marginal character now, JFK s waiting in the wings to make us the joke of the 21st Century. This season could well make last season look fantastic.

  • 87 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    I actually want Anita & Marv to leave so they can play under a manager that knows how good they are.

  • 88 paul24 // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:28 PM

    @Big Pappa Cissé

    I want Pardpoo to get rid of Jonas and use Marv instead, cant really see why he keeps using him to be honest.

  • 89 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    @paul24, what BPC is saying is that Anita and Marveaux are so wasted here. We like them, but they wouldn’t be played here.

  • 90 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:32 PM

    Gomis and Remy on the bench! Unthinkable.

  • 91 Bearsize // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:32 PM

    Playing the favourites all the time has a knock on effect with the players, not just us fans. How would u feel carrying tiote, taylor and jonas and your pals are on the bench! (Who are better). There has to be a reason pardew never learns. My guess is that he wants to get sacked for the payoff

  • 92 Ginger // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    Toonacious T

    It’s the same thing really haha, either way we have little to no chance of getting anything.

    yo-yo

    I’d take that fat waiter over our fox any day.

  • 93 paul24 // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    I know what he meant, both are wasted talent here. Its just a shame Pardew wont shift the crap players and use them instead.

  • 94 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    I think ppl r bein hash on hba, he had 1 bad performance. I understand he didn’t look good against a scottish 2nd division team, but this guy can be a genius on his day. He doesn’t deserve 2 be dropped.

  • 95 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    I wonder what the players would say if you asked them :

    Who is the better player, Jonas or Marveaux ? .

    I know who 90% of them would pick. On current form Anita should start over Tiote but no, he is first name on the teamsheet.

    I would love to meet Pardew in real life and tell him what I think of him as a manager. Boils my pi*s just thinking about his tactics and unforgivable defeats.

    The best signing we could have made this summet wasn’t a winger or a striker, it was a new manager.

  • 96 JackButler // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    Pardew will always pick certain players as he’s an old fashioned manager with old fashioned ideals and idea’s. We currently have one of the best squad’s in years and it will be completely wasted. We can spend as much money as we want, bring as much quality that is possible but if the personnel in dug-out remain the same it will achieve nothing

  • 97 paul24 // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    Just thought, if Pardew go’s, Joe will get the nod as manager……..oh god, please no, i take back what i said about Pardew, Pardew’s fine. He’s doing a great job. :p

  • 98 Pokat // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    Lads its not HBA its not Jonas its not even Shola its the fact we have a mismatched squad and a manager who has run out of permutations to play them in. It won’t take much to fix it, all we need is for Ashley to sell to a rich Toon fan, sack the entire coaching staff and bring in anyone and I mean anyone else from the PL who has an idea about football in the modern game. Dont get me wrong, I dont hate Alan, I just think he is woefully inadequate. Apart from that he’s quite a good manager.

  • 99 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    Paredews logic:

    6 game winning streak playing 4-3-3 is never used again, despite Ba leaving

    4-2-3-1 that almost got us relegated and totally iscolates Cisse is being used in pre-season. Madness.

  • 100 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:42 PM

    I think marveux deserves 2 be in the starting line up behind cisse. Still look dangerous with hba cisse and remy
    Also I wish Pardew would have the balls 2 play a 4-3-3, rather than 4-5-1, or whatever u want 2 call it.
    Then again I wish Mashley would have da balls 2 fire AP

  • 101 Ginger // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    We seem to play worse when we have our best players avaible. Maybe we should go for:

    —————–Elliot——————–
    Santon–Collo–Mbiwa—–Dummet
    ———-Anita——-Sissoko———-
    –Ben-Arfa—-Vuckic——-Gouffran
    ——————-Cisse——————-

  • 102 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:44 PM

    Just imagine how Sir Bobby could have had this squad playing ? . I reckon we would be gunning for the Champions League.

  • 103 daztoon // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    Simples Paredw is out of his depth,but knows he will never get this opportunity again and will never resign

  • 104 TimKrulFan // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    If we get Hernandez we will have 4 top strikers only thing is Cisse Gomis and Hernandez are all a but samey good finishers but crap on the ball.

  • 105 JackButler // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Big Pappa Cissé

    there are managers in the game today that love to have this squad available to them, Laudrup, Rodgers, Zola etc, etc

    We simply so not have the ambition to go out and improve on Pardew and thats why we will never reach the next level

  • 106 JP...from The Rock // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    Errm Ed The headline is wrong we DREW 1-1 not lost 1-0! Quite the cock-up there lol

    Anyway it’s good that we have done well this pre-season results wise. That builds confidence and unity that hopefully will be seen at the start of the season. It’s so close to our first match I missed the footie :)

    We need a couple more signings to help us as we’re still light though. Gomis, Sakho and Boudebouz for me :D

  • 107 TimKrulFan // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    I want pardew out but so scared Kinnear will get the job.

  • 108 JackButler // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    No way Kinnear takes over with his history of heart problems

  • 109 paul24 // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    @Big Pappa Cissé

    Your probably right, player for player we would probably rank about 6th in the Premier League.

  • 110 TimKrulFan // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    Get the Gomis and Hernandez deal sorted and buy a winger and Iam satisfied with the sqaud just not the manager.

  • 111 Pokat // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:52 PM

    Unfortunately under Ashley, you know that he would replace Pardew with something worse, as he genuinely despises us.

  • 112 FatmanJoe // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:52 PM

    Hernandez link is a hoax – I thought that was established… why is this still being discussed?

  • 113 paul24 // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:52 PM

    @JackButler

    I think you underestimate Mr. Ashley ;)

  • 114 TimKrulFan // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:53 PM

    All Pardew supports remember 0-3 0-6 3-7 0-4 all within 2 months

  • 115 Pokat // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:53 PM

    The subhumans of the Wear are laughing at you lot thinking Hernandez is in the frame you know.

  • 116 paul24 // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    Hernandez link was a hoax, and even if he did want to leave, i doubt we would get him anyway.

  • 117 FatmanJoe // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    TimKrulFan – I’m sitting on the fence here because that’s where I like it but we were seriously depleted with numbers and quality for the majority of those games.

    That being said Pards is struggling to get the best out of this bunch.

  • 118 TimKrulFan // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    No one worse than pardew.

  • 119 FatmanJoe // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    Agreed – don’t honour the lesser beings by even discussing Hernandez.

  • 120 jimmysmith // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    Starting to get a little concerned about the commitment and performances of our better players, Cabs, Benny, and Colo. I know it’s only pre season, but some distance off the mark so far. Cant wait for the City game, but scared we’ll go there and just go through the motions

  • 121 TimKrulFan // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    Are sqaud was no where near bad enough to get dogged on by Liverpool or Sunderland and against arsenal it was basically first team.

  • 122 JackButler // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    If Hernandez were to become available, he’d cost a hell of a lot more than 12 million and there would be far bigger clubs than us after him…………never gonna happen

  • 123 FatmanJoe // Aug 6, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    me too jimmy but I’m hoping they want to play in the world cup and therefore they’ll try a little bit this season.

    I hate that our top players rate their country over their club but that’s the way it is… Owen all over again.

  • 124 FatmanJoe // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:02 AM

    TKF – agreed, they were freaky results. Players didn’t show up. It’s a shame coz against Arsenal we played well… to a point. But there was god awful defending and arsenal took full advantage.

  • 125 jimmysmith // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    Joe might well be better than Pards and at least you’d know for sure he wasn’t gonna be in the job for 8 freakin years and that he’d put out a side that’d get stuck in, which Pards can’t seem to consistently manage.

  • 126 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    Maybe a more constructive question is… did you guys spot any Rangers’ players that we wanna sign?

  • 127 Brutooon // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    1) firstly, its a PRE SEASON game. Pre season games and real league game are DIFFERENT. scoring 4 goals in 4 games doesnt mean shola will score 38 goals in 38 games.

    Messi will score 0 pre season but will score 50 goals in the REAL league game

    2) We know that Shola Ameobi been Sh*t for the last 13 seasons! He will never be our main striker and we will NEVER win anything as long as he is playing!

    3) Stop saying he is a mackem slayer, he didnt against them the last 2 seasons.

    4) Yup he maybe a geordie but he didnt have the heart and hunger for goal unlike Alan Shearer

    5) Dont get be wrong, Shola Ameobi is an example of a Good BAD EXAMPLE. Coaches will said to a young upcoming strikers that “please dont do a shola ameobi”

  • 128 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    Hernandez for 12 million?? Your having a laugh! How many champion league teams would throw themselfs at that deal?!

    Jfk could never take the job on, not with his heart problems, with all the stress he would be more likey 2 drop dead middle of a game.

    Yes I would worry if MA did fire AP he possibly could replace him with somebody worse.

    Also, didn’t MA and AP have a meeting at the end of last year about APs job, when everybody thought AP was getting fired. Correct me if I’m wrong, I’m sure MA said he was looking for top 10 finish, and he wanted attractive football to boost the value of the club and attract possible buyers. Same reason he game AP was given 8 year contract, to boost the club value??

  • 129 Sazzer // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    Ed, 1-0?

    Black&WhiteBarmy ?@BlackWhiteBarmy 10m
    Pardew said in his NUFCtv interview that he was happy to see Jonas Gutiertez back to something like his best & was very positive.

  • 130 Sazzer // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:12 AM

    Black&WhiteBarmy ?@BlackWhiteBarmy
    Pardew has denied rumours linking #NUFC to Stewart Downing in rangers post match interview.

  • 131 Thump // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    Hernandez came from some Twitter itk and it’s just spiralled since then. No chance of getting him unless Cabaye is going the opposite way.

  • 132 paul24 // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    I’m sick of bloody Shola. Next season i’m gonna sing, He’s old, he’s s***e, he shouldnt be in black and white, AMEOBI, AMEOBI, get yourself down the dole!.

  • 133 Pokat // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    @127 – Ameobi is the cause of all this then? That explains it. Duh.

  • 134 jimmysmith // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:18 AM

    Sure, Joe isn’t likely to get Pards job, although I’m certain he’d fancy it, but attractive football under Pards and his equally rudimentary staff, that’s a long bow. I’d be happy if he could just get his this excellent group of players in the right frame of mind and give them their head, for want of a better phrase, sorry.

  • 135 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:21 AM

    @Sazzer, Pardew does not have a clue of who he’s getting!

  • 136 beddersmag // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:23 AM

    Id swop cabaye for hernandez in an instant. Just goes missing yet somehow avoids the dog abuse given to grafters like tiote and jonas. Let him go to a top club where he can swan about pulling strings and looking fantastic. It worked for carrick and he doesnt seem up for the fight to me

  • 137 keeganjr // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    Olympique Lyonnais president Jean-Michael Aulas has filed an official complaint with the French Professional Football League (LFP) against clubs who “derailed” Bafetimbi Gomis’s move to Newcastle.

    The France international was believed to edging toward a move to the Premier League outfit this summer after both clubs agreed a €10 million fee for the striker.

    However, Aulas revealed the deal could still go “haywire” this week as negotiations continued to stutter, and he has now involved the LFP in an attempt to root out those who he claim have tried to scupper the deal.

    He told L’Equipe: “I am disappointed because the deal was not finalised with Newcastle and I’m pessimistic over the transfer now.

    “I filed a complaint because certain clubs were unsettling certain players. Some offered dishonest proposals to try and derail the deal.

    “I will let the committee settle it.”

    Aulas went on to confirm that the 28-year-old, whose current deal expires next summer, would remain at Stade Gerland if his future is not clarified by the end of the transfer window.

    He added: “Gomis will be reintergrated into the squad if he is not transferred.”

    The Magpies have since secured a deal to sign QPR striker and fellow Frenchman Loic Remy on loan until the end of the season, casting further doubt over a deal for Gomis

  • 138 keeganjr // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:26 AM

    jesus christ.. maybe this Aulas guy should stop opening his mouth then..

  • 139 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:26 AM

    I didn’t really mean attractive football, but more the free flowing 4-3-3 that finished us off in 5th place.

  • 140 Foxworth // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    That Hernandez link was fabricated by a makem.

    Go to post 74 and see for yourself.

    Also, the Aulas lad is one mouthy chairman!

  • 141 paul24 // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    I thought the deal was at a stand still because of agents fee’s. I’m sure i read somewhere NUFC agreed to pay the sell on fee to St Ettiene, just not the Agents fee’s, could be wrong.

  • 142 p // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    was anyone listening to that daft liverpool fan on talksport just then?

    Hilarious

  • 143 Thump // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:33 AM

    @p: You’ll have to narrow that one down, mate – all Scousers are daft.

  • 144 p // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    The one on talksport a few mins ago, was shouting that suarez would not go anywhere

  • 145 paul24 // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    Saurez will be a Real Madrid player next season.

  • 146 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:46 AM

    Was watching best goals of I think 99/00 season (or 00/01 can’t remember) and in one match Shola scored a beauty and with some incredible footwork beat his man out wide completely and whipped in a great ball to set up another goal.

    He had fantastic potential back then.
    Is that what has kept him at the club all these years?

  • 147 djm... // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:51 AM

    Can anyone tell me how 4231 is any different from 433? It’s pretty much exactly the same formation, just last season the personel and tactics where hopeless. Stupidly Sacrificing cisse to keep ba happy, playing jonas on the wing instead of in the middle where he was so effective the season before and not playing a player closer to the main striker.

  • 148 jeff // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:54 AM

    we need to sign at least eight more players.

    5 m downing
    8 m gomis
    0 m bardsley
    8 m sinclair
    10 m boudebouz
    2 m rudd
    10 m mccarthy
    4 m diame

  • 149 paul24 // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:56 AM

    Traditionally 4-2-3-1 uses 2 holding midfielders and is designed for counter attacking football, 4-3-3 usually uses 3 central midfielders, or 2 and an attacking midfielder and is based around possesion football.

  • 150 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:56 AM

    @djm – exactly. People like to go over the top with formation detail.

    Sometimes what’s called 4-2-3-1 is actually just 4-4-2 even, with one striker dropping deeper- man city often did that last season.

    I reckon the reason why it’s so popular is more because it’s flexible: it’s basically versions of 4-4-2 and 4-3-3(4-5-1) rolled into one.

    Damn that’s alot of numbers.

  • 151 paul24 // Aug 7, 2013 at 12:58 AM

    @jeff

    Thats 46 million worth of players, Ashley wont even spend half of that.

  • 152 jeff // Aug 7, 2013 at 1:00 AM

    djm…

    there are a few key differences between 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1

    firstly almost all 4-2-3-1 formations rely on the double pivot in centre midfield who do not have many attacking duties. often 4-3-3 goes with one pivot (so only one DM) and has two advanced CMs.

    secondly 4-3-3 also reduces the defensive burden on the two attacking players on the flanks. in a 4-2-3-1 (at least pardew’s version) ben arfa and gouffran/jonas are playing behind sissoko, and so we are often defending as a 4-4-2.

    4-2-3-1 has a midfielder basically playing (and given the defensive duties) as a second striker. in the 2011-2012 season, cabaye never played as high as sissoko is playing these days. rather ben arfa and ba were playing in front of him where now sissoko is very much level with ben arfa/gouffran and often even more advanced

    basically 4-3-3 is a much more attacking formation which grants a lot more control in the midfield and attacking width while making us susceptible to overlapping runs out wide

  • 153 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Aug 7, 2013 at 1:05 AM

    @paul – I’d be amazed if he spent a quarter of that.

    @Jeff – when has a team ever played 4-3-3 with the midfielders spread across the pitch?

  • 154 jeff // Aug 7, 2013 at 1:09 AM

    http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/637/498/4-3-3_original.jpg?1354709361

    classic 4-3-3 gonufc

    since reading did nothing for u, maybe seeing a picture will help

  • 155 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Aug 7, 2013 at 1:11 AM

    Thanks for that.

    As you see, they are all centralised.

    That is my point.

    They are not simply sitting behind the wingers.

  • 156 Rooster // Aug 7, 2013 at 1:13 AM

    Lads we have spent 2 million so far, im not mentioning wages either no other club does but us, it is not enough pure and simple, another half million quid will get Gomis here, for the love of god just pay it and get this kid through the door, its a complete wind up this agent patter, look MA you love a good deal I know that, but football is a hard old business, you like to get the best deal possible, swallow a touch of pride and pay the bloody agent its getting on me frigan nerves, if not get Cardozo in asap at whatever cost and get ince or wijnaldum or even downing last resort just someone who can cross a bloody ball, obertan needs put on a slow boat to southern india, Sammy is not the answer either nor bloody guttierez. come on wake up and shake up.

  • 157 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Aug 7, 2013 at 1:13 AM

    Ahh, sorry, after re-reading I understand. I thought you were implying this:

    Mid –Mid–Mid
    Fwd–Fwd–Fwd

  • 158 jeff // Aug 7, 2013 at 1:16 AM

    basically the threat of wide forwards making the opposing full backs not wanna push forward and our own wingbacks pushing forward make up for the lack of width from midfield

    often with the ball the formation is like 3-4-3 with the cbs splitting, dm dropping inbetween them and wingbacks pushing forward

    very offensive and what rodgers has been building to. pardew will never play it though

  • 159 Rooster // Aug 7, 2013 at 1:20 AM

    Pardew played one way last season, we were a Hair`s breath from relegation, this season up to now not a thing has changed and still mediocre non exciting football prevails, far to defensive minded ,its bloody awful if we have to put up with this mans negative bollocks for another season.

  • 160 paul24 // Aug 7, 2013 at 1:23 AM

    I havent seen any pre season games, is Pardew still employing his usual 4-4-2 long ball kick the ball into the box and hope one of the strikers pulls a bit of magic out of his arse and scores style of football we’ve all come to hate him for?.

  • 161 Laurent Robert 32 // Aug 7, 2013 at 1:35 AM

    I was at the game tonight. That is more poor football served up. Rangers did well against us for the standard they are and had more chances I think. We had Pardew’s strongest team out.

    Now, remember this, that is the worst Rangers side in their history and are divisions below even in the Scottish leagues, yet we still struggled and made massively hard work of them.

    Awful movement again from the players. Created Cisse next to nothing again. Same as last year. Poor football.

    The goal was gifted to us, but Pardew will talk up Shola’s heroics to disguise more dross which was on display. Heaven help us once the season starts.

  • 162 Toon Tang // Aug 7, 2013 at 1:44 AM

    if the SPL is somewhere around the league 1/2 quality then scottish 3rd tier is defo pub team/sunday league/astro turf 7 aside/kick about with the kids/subbuteo/table football quality surely.

    Cant see it getting any better for us if we struggled with a near full strength team out tonight. Merciless times

  • 163 BandB // Aug 7, 2013 at 1:56 AM

    A lot of talk tonight about Pardew’s tactics. But we only have one tactic.
    “When that whistle blows, backs to the wall lads!”
    His career has been forged in the heat of trying to keep teams from being relegated. It is how he thinks.
    When we finished fifth, he announced: “Chuffed with that…the target was eighth. It still is for next season.”
    In that one hubristic sentence he may have crushed the morale of the players who thought they signed to compete for things. The season that followed was utterly predictable, with confusion replacing confidence and spreading throughout the team.
    It was like saying: “Good effort lads, now lets get back to our trenches.”
    I’m still hopeful for signs of progress after the season starts, and wish him well. But it’s very hard not to see him as the weakest link in this set-up.

  • 164 CruzToonSlug // Aug 7, 2013 at 1:57 AM

    There are a fair number of US toon fans such as myself out there. While I admit I grew up watching American sports and still consider myself a die hard Raiders fan, having played rugby, and cable internet gave us access to other sport cultures. I chose to follow the Toon after a visit to Tyneside in 2009. As with as other fan, I have immersed myself in the history and tradition of the game, english football and the team and still have much to learn. The internet and the globalization of the league allowed me to watch 20 some matches last season in California.

    While I am certainly no Georgie, whos to says where I and my family move too right? A match seen live from GallowsGate is on the bucket list.

    That said, the trolls and elitist self agrandizers on this fine site got nothing on American football blogs..we got some rednecks :) I believe the time difference contributes to the limited posting from my side of the pond.

    Finally (apologies on length) wb Torq stay the course. I wad an ‘insider’ with the Raiders for years keep doing what you do.

    I have concerns of our defensive prowess if we go 4-3-3, seems we will need Tiote to play in DMF slot….last year there were far too many goals allowed and Tiote’s lack of form the cause?

    Thoughts,

  • 165 p // Aug 7, 2013 at 2:05 AM

    B2b according to him he is a “turnaround specialist”

  • 166 daztoon // Aug 7, 2013 at 2:06 AM

    Big raiders fan also going back to the days howie long,plunkett,Jessie Hester.Sad times at the silver and black like the Toon

  • 167 p // Aug 7, 2013 at 2:08 AM

    I think we will be alreet if we get gomis and especially a decent winger

    Those 3 forwards we will have will be a handful and may take a bit of presure of the defence especially if the midfield works this season – last season it did not

  • 168 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 7, 2013 at 2:09 AM

    If we’re gonna look at a different managers, we’re gonna need somebody who can speak english and well and french. Aswell as attack minded

  • 169 potski // Aug 7, 2013 at 2:15 AM

    Fans from US certainly welcome, you don’t have to be a Geordie nor have ever had the good fortune to watch a game from the Gallowgate, to support the Toon.

  • 170 Mister Tuff // Aug 7, 2013 at 2:17 AM

    The euphoria of signing Remy – and the subsequent heightened expectations appear to be short lived.
    1. Familiar lacklustre performance against a poor Rangers side.
    2. No goalscoring threat apart from Shola -who should be playing elsewhere.
    3. No obvious/changes in tactics.
    4. Remy has been injured for 3 weeks and still is.
    5. Gomis deal shenanigans -some extraneous sources meddling in the deal according to Lyon president.
    6.Nothing appears to be developing -tactics/game plan during the pre season friendlies.

    Typical Toon expectations -raised up belatedly and then bump -back down to earth again.

  • 171 p // Aug 7, 2013 at 2:20 AM

    Cheer up mr tuff

    Tomorrow is a other day

  • 172 daztoon // Aug 7, 2013 at 2:22 AM

    Groundhog Day

  • 173 Mister Tuff // Aug 7, 2013 at 2:30 AM

    p – I will try to -a couple of more signings and modern tactics may help.

  • 174 p // Aug 7, 2013 at 2:34 AM

    You may get the former before septwmber but not the latter

  • 175 lesh // Aug 7, 2013 at 2:35 AM

    @172

    Doris Day!

  • 176 Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie // Aug 7, 2013 at 2:35 AM

    I am also from the US and I am calling myself a Geordie just coz of the love of NUFC for 15 years already.

  • 177 p // Aug 7, 2013 at 2:46 AM

    Seriously though lads, if you live in california you need to seriously love the toon to move to the city

  • 178 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Aug 7, 2013 at 4:41 AM

    @BandB – totally agree, it’s infuriating how little variety Pardew has (approximately none). Pardew always seems to have been a ‘cross you fingers’ type manager. All he does is try to stop us conceding goals and then simply hope the forwards produce some magic. Did it with Tevez at West Ham too. There seems to be absolutely no attacking cohesion when passing.

    The set pieces sum it up really: clip to back post for Williamson to knock it back across goal.
    Every. Single. Time.

    @CruzToonSlug – I love the idea that there are fans trying to watch Newcastle games from all over the world, it makes you quite proud really.
    Off topic- how did you start playing rugby in the US? It never appears to be possible apart from the odd Sevens game.

  • 179 gazzaforever // Aug 7, 2013 at 4:42 AM

    Omg I hate Jeff and his stupid lineup with passion, everytime he posts something its useless and clueless, just shut up please. Please?

  • 180 Toon73 // Aug 7, 2013 at 4:53 AM

    We get all EPL live into Oz via Foxtel. It’s great even though most games kick off at midnight or later :)

  • 181 Ashton // Aug 7, 2013 at 4:56 AM

    Pardew after the game “We was tired and we lacked the impetus because my players aren’t used to play on Tuesdays. But Rangers are a great side playing in a very strong league so I’m happy with a draw away from home”.

  • 182 gonufc (not Arf' bad) // Aug 7, 2013 at 5:04 AM

    @Ashton – lol, just imagine what would happen if he really said that. It would probably end with “….But we just couldn’t get them over the line….”

  • 183 CruzToonSlug // Aug 7, 2013 at 5:13 AM

    Raiders fan since 1970…Blanda

    Many colleges play Rugby Union on the west coast and there is a thriving club team system. I started as a hooker :) then got smart and moved first to break then to outside center.

    As for toon talk, thanks jeff for the formation clarification. Seems to me, with the current personnel…4-2-3-1 seems the best balance defensively and fits the skills of our attacking players….am I wrong?




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