This Could Be The Hold-Up With Newcastle’s Gomis Deal


Newcastle Director of Football Joe Kinnear told us yesterday that the Gomis deal was a problem, because of add-ons that kept coming up …. and other problems.

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Bafe Gomis – personal disagreement with Lyon

This is specifically what Kinnear said to Sky Sports yesterday:

“The Gomis deal was agreed on numerous occasions, but it’s a very difficult situation because there’s always extra add-ons, extra things, another problem.”

That’s a strange way to talk about a transfer – extra things, another problem.

The reporting in France was that there were two things holding up the deal to get Gomis to Newcastle.

  • Newcastle were negotiating what to pay the many Gomis representatives
  • Who would pay the 5% sell=on fee to his previous club St. Etienne?

However there was a report published in The Times on Monday afternoon, which suggests the hold-up is a personal one between Gomis and Lyon.

The Frenchman is apparently due 5% of any transfer fee (about £340K), but the report is that Lyon think that payment is null and void, because Gomis was involved in a sex scandal while at Lyon.

The alleged offense happened in January of 2012, when the Lyon striker was implicated in the (alleged) sexual assault of a 38-year-old woman, but just like Loic Remy in May of this year, Gomis said he was innocent of the charge.

But as so often happens in these cases, the player was never charged for the offense, so legally he did nothing wrong, but his club are claiming that Gomis arrest on suspicion of being involved in the gang rape, brought damage to the brand and image of Olympique Lyonnais.

That seems a difficult charge to make stand legally, since Gomis was never charged with any crime, and it seems that Lyon are jumping through hoops in order to save money.

Joe Kinnear hinted yesterday that Lyon had raised their price several times, after Newcastle thought they had an agreement, and Joe did say there were problems with the deal.

So Joe was savvy enough not to mention this alleged rape case.

And of course, it’s not surprising that Gomis’ agents do not agree with Lyon on this matter, but maybe this is why Lyon President Jean-Michel Aulas said that it could take up to eight days to sort this out.

So it could well be that this is what is really holding up the deal, and once again it’s nothing to do with Newcastle

Joe Kinnear is having a baptism of fire in his new job, but Newcastle did have a massive breakthrough yesterday, when Joe was able to sign Loic Remy on a season long loan deal, even though other clubs wanted the 18 times capped French International.

And that deal will give Joe and Newcastle some breathing space, and we can wait a little bit until Lyon sort out this thing with their player, always assuming the report is accurate.

But to end on a good note – Remy is a massively important signing this summer for Newcastle United.

What do you think?

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177 comments so far

  • Sazzer

    Aug 6, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    Comment #1

    JP…from The Rock
    Mertens have joined Napoli. I agree, all quality players,

    In terms of price I think it’s like this:
    1. Boudebouz (one year left of contract)
    2. Sinclair (on high wages)
    3. Wijnaldum
    4. Ince
    5. Menez (high wages)

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  • CruzToonSlug

    Aug 6, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    Comment #2

    Sounds likely its a combination of both.

    As for the Remy signage, as noted, seems to set the starting 11 nicely.

    I would assume Gomis is cover for Cisse and when its 4-4-2. Goofy gives nice depth behind Remy and Marv can cover for Ben10.

    With Gomis might be the deepest toon team in a decade….thoughts?

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  • CullysFinest

    Aug 6, 2013 at 12:46 AM

    Comment #3

    I don’t see why a player as talented as Marveaux is not being solidified as first choice left winger by many Newcastle fans…

    Incredibly contradictory – We need a left winger, either to replace Jonas as a back up winger (pray to lord he is not first choice left sided player come Aug 19th) or too heavily compete with Marveaux for the left wing spot

    -Ince available for £8m, i think blackpool could be tempted by £7m
    -Sinclair who is currently defining the term available at the moment should be snapped up for anything between £5m and £6.5m
    -Mentioned has been Downing, past it IMO £3m tops and a squad player at best

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Aug 6, 2013 at 12:48 AM

    Comment #4

    Great to see Remy signed up. Just hope he’s not employed to chase balls knocked long and aimlessly all game. That can get very frustrating as a player.

    Good signing nevertheless. Couple more now please.

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  • Robby Bobson

    Aug 6, 2013 at 12:52 AM

    Comment #5

    CullysFinest – i rate marveaux so highly, would love to see him in the hole though not LM and drop Sissoko back into DM.

    I think his ball control and vision is so underrated. Remember cisses last minute goal vs Stoke, if Juan Mata had played that ball to Cisse if would have been talked about for months.

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  • manxpie

    Aug 6, 2013 at 12:53 AM

    Comment #6

    cruz i feel marv might be sold don’t ask me why lol i just have a feeling
    and i agree gomis will be cover but i feel with the squad we might have there’ll be many different combos which is never a bad thing?

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  • FatmanJoe

    Aug 6, 2013 at 12:54 AM

    Comment #7

    Can’t see how this is the case. Yesterday the Lyon president was saying that he had absolutely nothing against Gomis’ character and instead the move was motivated by money.

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  • jimmysmith

    Aug 6, 2013 at 12:54 AM

    Comment #8

    I think wages are an issue at almost all clubs and certainly at Newcastle. I was surprised at the signing of Remy because of the money he was on at QPR and wonder how much room we have in our wage structure for another high earner. Gomis I think could come in but beyond that we’d be shelling out more than I would ever have expected under Ash.

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  • manxpie

    Aug 6, 2013 at 12:56 AM

    Comment #9

    cully because every game he’s played lw he’s been shocking infact looked totally lost lol
    up the middle he’s looked great but again its been stop n start for him

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  • ramajama

    Aug 6, 2013 at 12:56 AM

    Comment #10

    Any news on whether we have a view to permanent deal with Remy or any similar clauses?

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  • FatmanJoe

    Aug 6, 2013 at 12:56 AM

    Comment #11

    I think that having Simpson, Harper, Perch and probably Gosling, Romain and Shola off the wage list will mean that NUFC can afford to pay slightly higher wages but I was also surprised we brought in Remy – he originally chose QPR over us because of the wages being offered so how are we suddenly able to pay that kind of money?

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  • james589

    Aug 6, 2013 at 12:59 AM

    Comment #12

    Great to see Rémy sign and hopefully we can also get Gomis over the line to really bolster our attacking options.

    On the Downing front, personally I’ve never rated him; so one footed it’s untrue (more than once I’ve seen him turn 90° left 3 times instead of turning right), and he’s getting on. If we’re willing to spend £5m on him, we should add an extra £2-3m to get Ince who is undoubtedly a future star and who would probably also command a lower wage.

    In any case, 2 strikers and a winger in would be amazing. At least Kinnear’s has shown he’s not completely incompetent by getting the Rémy deal wrapped up.

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  • Scouse_geordie

    Aug 6, 2013 at 12:59 AM

    Comment #13

    I think marv actually wants to play Central. I think he said that’s his best position.

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  • Ashton

    Aug 6, 2013 at 12:59 AM

    Comment #14

    We don’t need Gomis. We have two strikers who are better and the same age as him. He will want a regular place in our team because he is in his prime and it’s a world cup year, but we can’t do that because we already have Cisse and Remy.

    He is not the type of striker we need. Cisse is a better finisher and he is also better at linking up the play. Remy is better in the air and a lot faster than Gomis.

    Signing Gomis will disrupt the team moral because he won’t be happy being our 3rd choice striker perhaps even 4th after Gouffran.

    For ~8m we can do a lot better. We should look for a promising young striker who can add something different to our team.

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  • FatmanJoe

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:01 AM

    Comment #15

    I’ve never rated Downing. A few moments of pure class in a career of what, ten plus seasons!? Not good enough really. He wouldn’t start for us which means he would be limited to sub appearances – would he really leave the bench in liverpool for the bench in newcastle?

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  • manxpie

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:03 AM

    Comment #16

    jimmy i’m shocked with the remy deal too because we must be paying the large % of his wages plus 2mill!!!
    but a player like ince can’t be on much at blackpool i know its a high price at 8 mill but if we send ober n gos the other way could settle it can ya tell i’m hoping here!? 🙂

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  • lukes26

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:03 AM

    Comment #17

    Good article.

    Carr and Kinnear must really like Gomis since he’s 28 and we’ll end up paying much much more to sign him than Bent.

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  • CullysFinest

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:04 AM

    Comment #18

    i agree marveaux’s best position is attacking midfield but he will struggle to get a game there, too much competition, where he is a natural left midfielder, the only in the team by my reckoning?

    with pardew in charge, we will see obertan playing attacking midfield before marveaux this season

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  • manxpie

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:08 AM

    Comment #19

    has anyone actually seen the interview wit remy?

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  • Sazzer

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:11 AM

    Comment #20

    Feel free to transcribe the best or the worst parts.

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  • luke.r

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:13 AM

    Comment #21

    We’ve got Gouffy that id rather play on the left than Marv. would prefer Marv as a number 10. We’ve got so man attacking options it is hard to pick a team now.

    I’d like to see a 433, having Cisse in the middle with Remy and Ben Arfa on the wings.

    This would sadly mean that both Gouffy and Marv would be on the bench.

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:15 AM

    Comment #22

    Pleasantly surprised with the Remy deal, though someone tried to claim that I said we would sign no one, I have to clarify that I never said that.

    I said that a) the signings are too late and b) it wouldn’t really matter who we sign as Pards will c*ck it up anyway.

    Never mind that though, Remy is a very good player.

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:15 AM

    Comment #23

    Luke

    Sadly? It would finally mean a little bit of competition for attacking places, something we’ve not had for a long long time.

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  • the velvet fiddler

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:16 AM

    Comment #24

    wanked over remy

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  • FatmanJoe

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:16 AM

    Comment #25

    It’s weird how one signing can really change the mood on here. I personally think we’re still missing at least one attack minded player but I was over the moon with Remy. Should be perfect for us.

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  • manxpie

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:19 AM

    Comment #26

    sazzer it was a genuine question i’m afraid lol i was just hoping someone could shed some light
    pissed me of that nufc site said keep tuned for continued updates through the nite then showed that the video was up but press play and low n behold you have to pay for it!!
    shouldn’t have been surprised really lol

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  • luke.r

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:23 AM

    Comment #27

    Ruddy

    A strange choice of words i know..

    Competition is always good, as a left back myself I’ve never really found it at clubs I’ve been at which is a shame and Newcastle has certainly missed it where a couple of excellent players are fighting for the same position.

    I’m just big fans of both and I hope they don’t get too sick of being on the bench as i’d hate to see them leave the club.

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  • manxpie

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:25 AM

    Comment #28

    ruddy your 1st post of the nite is picking a fight with someone!
    the same today you were on and arguments ensued just leave it like! no one really gives a shite about wat was said here or there!
    we’ve signed a top player who excites me and many others for the new season!!

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  • Carl92

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:28 AM

    Comment #29

    The thing is we have been crying out for a player like Gomis for ages. Cisse cant hold the ball up nor is he a good football player, hes a goal scorer. Whereas Gomis can do both and score goals. I think Remy, Gomis and Cisse is such a good group of strikers, they all have there own traits to complement each other.

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  • manxpie

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:30 AM

    Comment #30

    the most annoying thing is the squad we assembled since january really should have been last summer wat a season we could’ve had especially in europe n the cups but hey new start now lets see wat we can do?

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:32 AM

    Comment #31

    Manx

    Picking a fight with someone? I think you have a warped perception when you read my posts. Go to bed little boy.

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  • luke.r

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:32 AM

    Comment #32

    Carl

    I would have agreed with you at the start of last season, but watching him as the season went on, he progressed really well and became much better at holding the ball up. A lot of the problem was that he’d get passed the ball, hold it up and find that none of the midfield were bothering to move and help him up.

    He was on his own up top, receiving the ball and had no options to pass to.

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:34 AM

    Comment #33

    Luke

    If Pardew employs a sensible rotation policy hopefully they all get plenty of playing time and are able to keep each other on their toes, something we’ve been sorely lacking in previous seasons.

    I must admit that even though I am critical of the owner, DOF and manager, I still want to see our club succeed.

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  • DevonToon

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:35 AM

    Comment #34

    I hope we sign remy the second he is officially cleared of rape, a loans better than nothing like. Remy’s a top player when he puts his mind to it. OM wanted 20mil a few years ago for him. Just that one signing gives us so many options if everyones fit, id like….
    Gk Krul
    Rb debs
    Cb maps
    Cb colo
    Lb stoon
    Dlp cabs
    Dm socks
    Cam marv
    Rw beny
    St cisse
    Rw remy
    Elliot, taylor, haidara, tiote, anita, guti, goofy,

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  • luke.r

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:38 AM

    Comment #35

    Ruddy

    Yeah well hopefully he can get that right, I think that will be one of the hardest things for him this season.

    I just wish we had this problem last season with all the extra matches we had.

    I am optimistic for the coming season and though I’m against MA and JFK, I do have some faith left in Pards, though that is limited for this season. He’s really got to kick himself and team right up the arse

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  • Carl92

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:42 AM

    Comment #36

    Luke r

    I have to agree last season no player got beyond the ball other than Cisse, it was difficult for him. But I just think it would be a pleasant change having 3 top strikers at the club. Nothing better than proper competition for places.

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:43 AM

    Comment #37

    Luke

    Well MA clearly made a massive mistake and by doing so he set the club back a number of years in our pursuit of being a top 6 club regularly.

    Until MA sells up and takes Pardew with him we’ll never consistently see the football we want. We’ve just got to hope that Pards lets go of the reigns every now and then and lets this fine collection of footballers play every now and then instead of grinding a 1-0 or clinging to a draw.

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  • manxpie

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:44 AM

    Comment #38

    ruddy

    “though someone tried to claim that I said we would sign no one, I have to clarify that I never said that.”

    thats an invitation fella and ya dragging up something that has been cleared ages ago!
    and again you call me a “little boy” but surely thats an insult isn’t it ruddy??
    but you don’t do that do ya ruddy?
    ya a walking contradiction ruddy simple as really and every day you prove it! (imo)

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  • manxpie

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:45 AM

    Comment #39

    oh i forgot “behave”!! 🙂

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  • luke.r

    Aug 6, 2013 at 1:46 AM

    Comment #40

    Carl

    Oh no definatly, and theres certainly better players then cisse at holding the ball up, he needs to be in the box with wingers creating chances for him. I was just very pleasently suprised at how well he’d developed as a footballer and not just a goal scorer.

    And we need another striker like Gomis, who is similar to Cisse who will fight for that place

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