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Joe Kinnear Back In For Bafe Gomis

9:58 am, Thursday, August 8th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 71 Comments

The Evening Chronicle are reporting today that Newcastle United Director of Football Joe Kinnear is not happy, make that furious, with Marseilles after Lyon President Jean-Michel Aulas accused the French club of derailing Newcastle’s move for Bafetimbi Gomis, and you can hardly blame him.

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Joe Kinnear - moving again for Gomis?

The matter is now before the French Professional Football League who have today issued a statement on the claim.

Marseilles approached Gomis and his agents without Lyon’s knowledge, and that is a big no-no with transfers, and Joe Kinnear is said to be considering his next move, after getting more information on what has actually happened.

And the fact that Marseilles signed 26 year-old 6′ tall Tunisia striker Saber Khelifa from Evian yesterday, may mean that Marseilles could end their interest in Gomis, and it may be a great time for Kinnear and Newcastle to move back in and seal the deal.

The hold-up is said to be with the agents’ fees, but a transfer fee and terms have already been agreed by Newcastle with Lyon, and we suspect (this is purely a supposition on our part) that Marseilles may have offered his agents bigger fees than Newcastle, which could have caused the impasse.

But if Marseilles are no longer interested in Gomis, then his agents would be well advised to agree their compensation with Newcastle rather quickly.

Don’t be surprised if Joe now tries to tie up this deal as quickly as possible, in what may be an opportune time for the Tyneside club to complete the deal.

If he can do that it will have been a great week in the transfer market for Newcastle,  and good for Joe Kinnear too.

What do you think?

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71 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Greebol1892 // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    We will get him eventually.

  • 2 Ben3arfa // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    Joe Kinnear for Prime Minister !!!!

  • 3 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    Lewisnufc
    12 mins ago
    toonarmydownsouth

    it worked with demba lw and cisse through the middle so why not remy?

    Because Demba Ba has and had regularly played LW throughout his career, and is left footed
    Remy hasn’t and is right footed

    2 completely different players

  • 4 Jail for Ashley // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    Being covered in Fanta on a wasp colony is too good for Ashley.

  • 5 cyprus // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:03 AM

    Sorry for repeating my point as Ed is on fire, just like the wingers we need: fast and hard to pin down!
    This Gomis guy would be a good bonus, an expensive bench warmer tbh.

  • 6 cyprus // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:05 AM

    Because Cisse and Remy are surely better…

  • 7 Hatem's better than Messi // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    Pardew for England!

  • 8 jasper // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    For those who would like to discomfort MA

    https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/page/contribute/Stand-with-Zahera#petition

  • 9 voice of raisin // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    This transfer will be pushed through in the next day or so.

    OM being reported is purely a “put up or shut up” scenario from lyon. I would imagine they are simply as frustrated as all of the newcastle people and want a deal completed one way or another.

    Notice that it clearly states

    “if the negotiations with Newcastle should collapse, it would be Marseille’s fault.”

    So if it falls apart, OM will be brought up on it, unless of course they make an official offer and then talk to the player.

    Either way it will be resolved by the weekend – OM will today or tomorrow renounce/declare interest and that will be that. I expect it to be the former and a deal rushed through

  • 10 nut meg // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    For all you people who want a LW to be brought in,check this guy out.Before anybody starts yelling,I’v only seen him on you tube but ,check out his stats on transfer market,they are IMHO very impressive & he’s valued on TM @ 10m euro. I’ve already asked a couple of times if anyone has seen him play live but no one responded so far.He can play on either wing or as a AMF scores goals & creates chances for fun. Take a look.He’s just what we need IMHO. Dusan Tadic from FC Twente

  • 11 yo-yo // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    REPOST

    We had a huge debate about the ‘neggers’ on here a year or so ago. Now you can scroll through entire threads without finding any football related comments, just loads of personal insults and the endless anti-Pardew hatefest. Spuggy is right.

    Spuggy // Aug 8, 2013 at 8:11 AM

    This blog used to be a thriving online forum for healthy debate, constructive discussion and most importantly support of a beloved club.

    It is nothing but a den of wolves now, steeped in bias and bitching of everything and anything. Players, managers, owners, each other.

    Having been a once active member of this blog I rarely post here anymore for the aforementioned reasons.

    We have one of the greatest squads we have assembled for years and all people can do is bitch and moan.

    Sorry Ed, but most objective posistive supporters now avoid this blog. Not because of your hard and diligent work to keep it going through adversity (yes people even criticise Ed using his own blog when all he does is report any news good and bad from all sources).

    The are still a few decent posters on here but they are a dwindling breed.

  • 12 daztoon // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    Cyprus

    For me Marveaux is more suited to that position and is more of a team player.Likes to receive the ball but will lay it off quick too,more a give a go type.Benny for me is better suited as a wide man,likes to beat his man and looks far better when he’s running at a player and cutting in or crossing

  • 13 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    When I say I wish people would stop slating Pardew and that just means slating the club, I clearly don’t mean that constructive criticism is out! Debate about JFK’s position, the injuries and level of fitness of our squad, positions of our players, style of play etc. are all fair topics. But demanding Pardew is sacked because he only has one style of play or has lost the dressing room is just getting tired. We’re well into August now and there is no sign that any of our top players are leaving. The closer it gets to the transfer window, the less likely it will be that someone leaves and the more we will be able to demand for them too.

    It’s all shaping up rather well I think…

  • 14 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:10 AM

    We should move on from this lad ASAP it’s becoming ridiculous with all the twists and turns!

    He wants 70k a week
    He also wants to play for OM
    He’s in contact with OM
    We have to pay a ridiculous fee for a player with one year on his contract
    We have to pay his sell on fee
    We have to pay him/his agents €2m in bonuses

    Just get a great prospect in like a Icardi Morata or locadia

  • 15 Generic Commenter // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:10 AM

    Come Joe, get the lad in! Just don’t try and say his name, you could end up insulting the whole of France!

  • 16 bzak12 // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:10 AM

    How can we expect to sign players with JFK in charge of recruitment the bloke has difficulty stringing a sentence together never mind signing foreign players.

  • 17 Transfer Sage // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    tads

    Well for one Ba is right footed…. he has scored 15 with his right and 5 with his left for us. definitely a right footed player

    Also remy has played LW and RW so no issue…it’s the same position basically anyway.

    Henry played well drifting in from the left and using his right foot….much easier to shoot from the left using your right foot, more bigger target to hit when bending the ball.

  • 18 Spreadthetoon // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:12 AM

    I’d be tempted to play 3 at the back and a deep DM ahead of em……how bout something like this…

    ———————-Krul————————-
    Debuchy———–Collo—————-Santon
    ———————MYM/Tiote—————–
    Remy—-HBA——Cabaye—-Sissoko–Gouffy
    ———————Cisse————————-

  • 19 Transfer Sage // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:12 AM

    tads

    on Gomis I agree….give him a deadline to have it sorted by 2 days for what we are willing to pay. If not lets get somebody else….he will soon hurry his agent up if he wants to come and we issue a deadline.

  • 20 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:14 AM

    TADS

    He’s been saying good things on Twitter about wanting to join us. The stupid problem is the contracts that these players have with agents.

  • 21 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:14 AM

    Sage
    Remy has played hardly any of his career at LW, just because he can play there doesn’t mean he should
    How many people spent last season about having players not playing on there natural side so they constantly had to cut in?
    Remy played most his games on the right for QPR and looked deadly why change that?

  • 22 clinath@ed // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    oh TS….LW& RW “basically the same position”???

    Opened yersel up there for some abuse mate. lol

  • 23 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:17 AM

    Both Gomis and his agents are aware that they are not allowed to talk to any club unless Lyon gives them permission!

    …where is the misunderstanding?

  • 24 daztoon // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:17 AM

    If yer gonna use a defensive unit of three they need to be out and out defenders.Debuchy and Santon are wing backs.
    A back three of Mbiwa,Colo and Williams would work for me

  • 25 Transfer Sage // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:18 AM

    Tads

    Because he can play there so it’s not out of position. If he couldn’t play left Side it would be a problem but he can so its ok to use him there. Ben arfa plays right side so by change that?

    For a forward like remy and Ben arfa the modern way coaches favour is to play left footer on right and right on left, so they can cut in an shoot.

    I’d rather the correct/traditional way for wingers who cross but these two are there more for goals than assists I think.

    But either way, as long as the club play them in the way that works best I don’t mind then trying both to see which works better

  • 26 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:19 AM

    TDS
    Ah yes twitter aka gospel
    He’s also stated on numerous occasions he wants to join OM
    How do you know he’s not simply keeping his options open?
    Also agents act under his instruction, if he’s not happy with there behaviour then he can tell them to stop pursuing a certain deal

  • 27 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    TDS,
    I’m not sure I agree that it is all shaping up rather well. I think it isn’t shaping up too badly is a better state. We still need imho 2 more in minimum.

    We badly lack any wingers (okay, Obertan, but I’d rather not think about him(incidentally Obertan had more assists per minute played than anyone else last year)), yet all pre season Pardew has played formations using wingers.

    I haven’t seen any games, so can’t really comment on the style of play, and won’t be taking comments on this blog as a judge of it, would rather wait and see, but that is a crucial part yet to be judged.

    Lack of coaching staff hasn’t been addressed, despite the statements at the start of the summer to say it would be.

    HBA is reportedly still looking like he has been working out with Matt Le Tissier and Micky Quinn.

    On a positive note, hopefully Faye Downey will prove successful. I think Remy is a good signing, will add a different dimension to our play.

    Still to be decided, JK being good at his role, Pards and Ashley proving they have learnt the error of their ways last year.

  • 28 voice of raisin // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    And as I have said above….

    It is ‘probably impossible’ that Marseille will sign Bafetimbi Gomis they believe

    Expect the deal to be pushed through by the weekend

  • 29 Spreadthetoon // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    TADS
    I believe that Siem de Jong was the missing piece this summer of the jigsaw. Sissoko is not a no. 10.

    I do think however we must remember that there is plenty of creativity in our midfield if plyrs are kept fit and free from injury and played in their “natural position”.

    HBA and Marveaux are both very creative players and are better placed in the centre of the park IMO. They are not naturally wide players. Both Gouffran and Remy (both of which players have tremendous pace) are both wide players, though I suspect both would prefer to play more centrally. Coupled with the fact that both Sissoko and Cabaye are play makers and deeper placed midfielders…..I am optimistic about our future….if only AP can read it from the same hymn sheet.

  • 30 Transfer Sage // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    Clinath

    Not really.

    It is the same position. Either in that role to cross an provide goals or there as more of a wide striker to score.

    Either way you job is the same just opposite side of the pitch.

  • 31 nico // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    Spreadthetoon
    Play 3 at the back but have Santon and Debuchy as wing backs not centre halves. I think we’d concede a few goals playing Goufron and Remy as wing backs.

  • 32 cyprus // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    Transfer Sage,
    The way you state it, we are sorted regarding wingers or do I read you wrong: HBA on the right, Remy on the left.
    It’s just that I sense that neither favours those positions…
    Hence the need for ‘real’ wingers

  • 33 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    Sage
    Fair point
    Yes benny does look to cut in and shoot, but he never looks to get into the area looking at the back post for crosses or make breaking runs into the area because he then has to stop and cut in, personally I think it restricts the play massively

  • 34 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    So we have one friendly left to get it all right before the Citeh game :)

  • 35 Transfer Sage // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    Tads

    True agents work for the player but depends what contracts they have with agents depends of they can sack them and move on.

    Also the agent might not be giving the player a full picture, no doubt we will tell him something different as will his club.

  • 36 Sir Erec // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    Toonarmydownsouth-

    I think Ba is also right footed. That being said, his left foot is still decent.

  • 37 Transfer Sage // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:26 AM

    Tads

    It just depends if we want wingers to score or assist more I think. But surely no reason they can’t swap sides mid game, we need to e more fluid instead of this horrid rigid unit we currently have.

    Cyprus

    Well I think remy and Ben arfa are more wide forwards than genuine wingers. I’d still like one or two players brought in who can cross a ball.

  • 38 clinath@ed // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:26 AM

    TS..BUT can a Left Winger play as a Right Winger and vise versa? I think that was the point being made.

  • 39 dan5679 // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    guys move on he is not signing for us

  • 40 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    There is only a need for wingers if Pardew continues to play a formation requiring them. The squad we have is better suited to not playing wingers, and either having support strikers, or having an inside left and inside right just off a central striker.

  • 41 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    TADS

    Sometimes it isn’t as simple as that. Players have contracts with agents same as they do with clubs. I hope it’s resolved soon one way or another anyway.

    Nobody in the know seems to be putting the blame on us or Gomis at least.

  • 42 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:29 AM

    Spread agree and disagree
    I don’t think Ben Arfa is any way suited to play the number 10 role, and has looked overwhelmed every time he has played there, I actually think he is better suited to the wing
    Marveux I agree is much better suited to the CAM role very good range of passing

    The problem, I feel, is pardew has made a rod for his own back with the freedom he gives his players, he has said he wants cabaye in an advanced role, but Marv benny and sissoko have all said they prefer the number 10
    So given our lack of creativity I’d prefer to play 2 advanced midfielders with only one holding midfielder, especially at home, can’t stand to see to CDM’s when were at home

  • 43 Le tooooon // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    I think we are too far down the path to turn our back on this deal now. Gomis is a quality striker and there is no question we are paying well over the odds for him, but we need a another striker in ASAP because if Papiss and Remy (Remy seems to pick up knocks alot!) get injured we are fecked!

  • 44 clinath@ed // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    I like the idea of Remy and HBA changing position throughout a game…but it will change the the dynamic of the team as an attacking force (and defending really!!). A lot of work would have to go on in training to adapt to this methinks!

  • 45 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    TDS
    Lyon have blamed gomis and his agents several times

  • 46 cyprus // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    Lilongwe Geordie,
    I read you but that makes a pretty narrow field which can easily be blocked these days. Even the mighty Barcelona were found out due to their narrow play, even with the best in the business. Ask the Bayern wingers…

  • 47 clinath@ed // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    LIL i agree, the width will come from the fullbacks, that’s why those personnel were bought.

  • 48 WWYCD // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    See Blanc is tapping up Cabaye again and slamming us in the process, what a helmet

  • 49 numba9 // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    Suntan and debauchery need to focus on their delivery in training before we get under way because too often they get forward well only for them to get blocked or cross poorly

  • 50 clinath@ed // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    cyprus….what we got wrong was NOT have a right and left footed player on both sides.

  • 51 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    Lilongwe

    Well, I still think things look better than last summer or the season before. I can’t really think of a single area that we are worse off than then. Maybe not having Harps as a 3rd choice goalie but that’s not a huge deal.

    It’s got to be gradual improvement, a little bit each year. I haven’t seen the pre-season games either but understood that we played with 1 striker and 2 players supporting them who can also get wide. Goofy, Ben Arfa, Marveaux, Obertan and Remy all seem to be suited for this role. I don’t see us signing an out an out winger.

  • 52 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    Does it really matter who is to blame for this Gomis situation? Not to us fans surely, he either signs or doesn’t. Tell the lot of them he has to be signed and sealed by 5pm tomorrow, or we are out. Move on. He isn’t all that anyway, 1 good game, 4 piss poor according to a couple of French blokes out here, and that is the impression I have got watching him as well, inconsistent.

  • 53 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    TADS

    Not in the current situation though. I thought it is all good to go bar OMS and the agents?

  • 54 magpie6699 // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    I’m wondering on the showing so far of HBA whether he should be consigned for the time being to 20 minute cameos at the end – either as a game changer or as a clincher against tired opponents. His energy levels are not good atm – maybe this will change after today and also help Cissse etc – it’s the end of Ramadan.

  • 55 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    I don’t see the fuss about getting wingers either; if Pardew just read up a little bit on 4-3-3 or seak out some help then we should be fine as long as we getting some competition for Cisse and a young RB.

    I would prefer we upgraded our fringe players but that is not going to happen so let just pray we don’t get too many injuries!

  • 56 The puppy formerly known as prince // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    I honestly think we should have walked away from this deal a while ago, OL chairman has made it as public as possible to drum up interest, OM have been underhanded, NUFC have clearly been made to look like a poor second choice club. The sad thing is, its typical of all our recent transfers.

    Our club certainly knows a good price for a player but I’m not sure they always understand the value of a quality higher price signing, I personally believe we should look to bring more British players into the club as long as they’re of a high quality and lets be honest our performances would suggest we’re not exactly buying the best French man more the better priced!

    I also think the club or even the fans should investigate the possibility of getting a gagging order put on Alan Pardew and never let him comment in any interview ever again, or be aloud to comment on any thing club or North East related. I know I’m dreaming.

    I also think as much as I dislike JFK he would actually be no worse a manager than Pardew – I’m not saying he’d be better just no worse.

  • 57 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    Cyprus,
    Barca got found out because most of the teams they play against expect a hiding so sit deep. Plus, let’s face it, they also cleaned up domestically, and have been pretty successful as well.

    However, if Pardew signs Robben and Ribery, then I will accept we can play with wingers. No point though if we don’t have any.

  • 58 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    TDS
    The current situation is one set back of several in a ridiculously protracted transfer
    We need to move on its ridiculous

    Yo
    Have you got a link mate?
    Blanc has already been told to put up or shut up so it’s a bit naughty, tbh wouldn’t be surprised to see cabs go before the end of the window

  • 59 Indian Magpie // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    TADS

    Icardi has left Sampdoria for Inter

  • 60 croftus5678 // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    guti played well on lw against rangers actually having great vision and putting in 4-5 really good crosses from the byline which actually scares the hell outa me that we will not sign a left winger >.<

    our young fergie got 2 assists i his last game also but he still looks well off prem pace.

    for me gomis and a left wing then look at how things go to evalueate in jan.

  • 61 surreytoon // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Most of the French press are saying the signing by the weekend of Khlifa by OM should end their interest in Gomis. In any case from what I have read OM were looking for a January bargain or pre-contract for Gomis which would mean they can have him for “free”. The lack of a transfer fee would be a boon to Gomis and his agents as they could request hefty fees and a golden handshake. No wonder Lyon are annoyed. It could still be the case they want rid of Gignac for a good fee and will take Gomis in Jan or next summer to partner Khlifa.

  • 62 DevonToon // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Who said Ba was left footed?

  • 63 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    TDS,
    Gradual improvement is fine, but I don’t think it necessarily means it’s shaping up well. Goalkeepers are definitely weaker, and probably the weakest we have been in that area since Hooper was back up.

    I’ve heard various reports on the formations, so not really sure what, but Pards did say he was looking to play 2 up front this year.

    Like I said, so much is still up in the air this summer, which, whilst being a worry, means it can also still be resolved so no need to panic just yet.

  • 64 Spreadthetoon // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    TADS
    Some very interesting points of view. If AP does give all the players freedom, then we loose our shape and become congested in the center and woefully vulnerable to the counter attack, which was all too clear last year.

    I prey that AP has learnt from his mistakes. But as far as pre-season preparations have gone……there is little evidence of that. Actions speak louder than words.

    As for Marveaux I believe he is our best CAM option, had the greatest volume of assists last season and could partner up well with Cabaye. Problem with Marv is he does not track back so you would need either Tiote or Sissoko sitting behind.

    Lastly HBA is great, he’s an enigma…..but I’m still not convinced he is best out on the flanks :0)

  • 65 WWYCD // Aug 8, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    toonarmydownsouth
    Ryder just put a link up mate, and that GNFrance account thing said he ruled out PSG making a move but put Spurs name in there instead

  • 66 richyg01 // Aug 8, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    BLOODY AGENTS!!!

  • 67 musomag // Aug 8, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    We are obviously waiting until Gomis is injured then he’ll meet our transfer criteria

  • 68 sirjasontoon // Aug 8, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    Joe Kinnear is F’Kin Douche Bag.

  • 69 toonicle // Aug 8, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    Yo yo @11- Don’t be discouraged, it’s always like this in the summer.

  • 70 isleofmanman // Aug 8, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    The Chronicle used to be a life-line for me in exile. Then it dumbed down to its current standard of banal journalistic clap-trap

    ‘Joe Kinnear’ and ‘The Chronicle’ are made for each other. Attention seeking organs both…

  • 71 coastalboy // Aug 8, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    Give J.F.K. a g.p.s. & a guide dog if he is going to France




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