The Newcastle United Blog

News and Commentary On Newcastle United Football Club By Ed Harrison, A Proud Exiled Geordie And Lifelong Fan

The Newcastle United Blog header image 2
Howay The Lads!!



Newcastle Pull Out Of Gomis Deal

12:00 pm, Sunday, August 11th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 290 Comments

There’s a very short report in the Sunday Express today that Newcastle have pulled out of signing French International striker, Lyon’s Bafetimbi Gomis, but we wonder if there’s any truth to that.

bafetimbi gomis - pink

Bafe Gomis – deal dead?

Newcastle have agreed a fee up to €10M for the striker and wages have also been agreed, but the fees being asked by his agents are exorbitant, and Newcastle are balking at paying them – and you cannot blame them for that.

They also report that Marseilles have come back n and met the asking price of the striker, but that specific French Club is currently being investigated for improper dealings with the striker and his agents by the French Professional Football League (LFP), so we’d be a little surprised if that is true.

We’ve also trolled the French press this morning and there’s nothing at all we can find to corroborate this news, so it may be just a guess at what may happen.

We still think as time goes by towards September,  it puts Gomis’ agents under more pressure to accept lower fees, unless Marseilles meets the asking price ofor Gomis, and that doesn’t seem to be the case at the moment.

And Gomis has made it clear to everyone that his first choice is Newcastle – pity he cannot control his agents a little better – they work for him don’t forget.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.

Follow us on Twitter, like us on Facebook and +1 us on Google+:

You can also reach Ed at admin@nufcblog.com



Tags: Newcastle News · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target



<


290 responses so far ↓

  • 1 t00ntime // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    this is why agents are ruining football

  • 2 thebionicMAG // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    I hope so I’m bored of this story.

  • 3 mattyNUFC // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    indian, few threads back

    thanks for clearing that up for me. I’d no idea france and belgium were in europe

  • 4 numba9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    He doesn’t want to sign any 1 the tight ass going down this year again

  • 5 Graeme // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    Its time the clowns at EUFA and FIFA made it very clear that the Agent works for and is engaged by the Player.

    It is therefore the resposibility of the PLAYER to sort out the remuneration he agreed to pay his Agent to represent him!! It is a simple thing really.

  • 6 corkypants85 // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    Does anyone have a link for that fantasy football league for folkes on the blog?

  • 7 count // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

  • 8 PrinceMonkey // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    Just realised that wongo sponsor hearts. Hearts who are in administration. Hearts who couldn’t pay their players on time. Probably not the ideal partner for a pay day loan company!

  • 9 thebionicMAG // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    If he really wanted to come he’s be here. Agents represent footballers they don’t control them – unless of course the player allows them too.
    The bottom line is agents work for the footballers who ultimately have the final say in any of their moves. He could fire his agent at the drop of a hat and come to Newcastle if he really wanted.

  • 10 Indian Magpie // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    This story has had more twists than a pretzel

  • 11 Heslop Toon // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    @6
    It should be down the right hand side of the blog page if you look.

  • 12 Graeme // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    Corkypants – the info is on the right hand side of this page mate.

  • 13 stuart no9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    “newcastle have pulled out of the deal” my betting is he’ll be a toon player by wednesday .

  • 14 Jail for Ashley // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    I wonder why Bonys, Carrolls or RDV’s agents never asked for exorbitant fees !

  • 15 veto // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    what would they know ?
    JFK is on the eurostar on his way to talk to them now

  • 16 Rooster // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Who knows, its all one big frigan circus, so looks like everything agreed apart from gent fees, oh dear, if MA was an Agent he would be trying to get the bst deal all round, surely we all know that, it is really starting to stink the place out.

    Are we going on to JK`s second list then OMG.

    Watched that so called friendly yesterday and did not move a muscle for virtually 90 mins not even when we scored from a corner as I was frozen in disbelief.

    Too many of our players still imo showing very little passion for this football club, ive got to say I love Ben Arfa but he just floats about the pitch good ball bad ball good dribble bad dribble, Sissoko I don’t know what contribution he gave apart from one good run in to the box, Cabaye did not produce anything, marv came on and looked like he dosnt want to be here.

    Totally mind numbing game friendly or not, young Dummet is the bright spark, and will only get better as the lad has a big heart as well.

    Get the cheque book out, get a few more in no excuses, nothing changing from last season from what I can see so far this season.

    Alan Pardew, John Carver Steve Stone, not enspiring at all is it and the fact that our training sessions were little more than a joke last season should have bared down on Carver as he organized them, he really should have been taken to task for our total lack of fitness.

    At this moment in time I am dreading this season, because if the football is of the same standard as last it is just not by any stretch of the imagination good enough.

    FED UP READING MAYBE COULD BE SHOULD BE DAY AFTER DAY. ADIOS!

  • 17 alext109 // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    Repost:

    Anyone know how to find the strip from yesterdays game? I can’t find it on the website, or have they not released it yet?

    Link??

  • 18 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    Graeme

    Couldn’t agree more.

    If a player employs an agent he should pay that agent. If a buying club employs an agent it should pay that agent. Simple and straightforward.

  • 19 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    Were we ever really in it? Once remy was done there is was no need to get another. At least we have cambell coming through. Doh

  • 20 toon kk // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    When it comes to spending its such a major issue at Newcastle, thats why we keep losing our targets. Its all about money with Mashley not ambition.

  • 21 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    Alex. Just get a blacburn top and a pot of black dye…. Dont pay money to feed the beast

  • 22 yo-yo // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    Pardew is doing his very best to lower expectations about any more incoming players. Even though we know he wanted 2-3 guys in from earlier comments.

    He is also softening fans up by talking about how good the pre-season has been – dressing room atmosphere, fitness and training etc.,

    The club are also making aggressive comments about the selling prices for our better players. We have not really been associated with any replacement players for – say Cabs other than Martin. So if we do sell late we will not be able to replace.

    Does this all sound horribly familiar ?
    And we all know where we ended up last year.
    The only difference is that this season AP will be the stooge and JFK will be at the helm come May 2014 ….. and this blog will be full of the usual comments raving about the manager.

  • 23 Jail for Ashley // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    You have to ask the question, is all this penny pinching worth it in the end ?

  • 24 stuart no9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    rooster @ 16 — missed the game yesterday , Was it that bad ????

  • 25 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    toon kk

    Would you be happy to accept higher gate charges (say an extra 25%) to fund purchases?

    The club has said often enough that isn’t going to get itself into financial difficulty by reckless spending.

  • 26 mattyNUFC // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    so boring. this guys is hardly work it

    8mil fee and 70k wages? on him? I’d rather have modibo maiga over this guy, and I hardly wanted the latter

  • 27 Jail for Ashley // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    @19,
    I wonder that myself.

  • 28 Indian Magpie // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    Slank

    How much do Norwich?swansea/Cardiff charge. Is it higher or lower than NUFC

  • 29 Graeme // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    Jail – I guess it depends on who you ask the question!!

  • 30 numba9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    The last two or three summers clot of players have left not to be replaced how can we compete in this league ? We will lack goals again that’s for sure

  • 31 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Slank. Gates dont really generate huge amounts. Its all sponsorhip and tv money. – and in our case profits from player sales. However, sponsorship would not be so big if we didnt have a full stadium as sponsors want to be associated with success. A few empty stadiums would make the likes of cashley start to take notice………. And then 52000 turn up for the 1st stuffing of the season.

  • 32 Tommyy // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    I don’t know why or how it can be so hard to just get a good manager in to suit the players and get deals sorted! No other clubs have these issues so far into negotiations unless its for massive money signings. I just hate everything Newcastle at the moment.

  • 33 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    tads…I am more concerned about how we are going to negotiate Remy’s wages down when we are going to sign him permanently? :)

    …I don’t think we can I cannot see us either paying him £80k a week or Gomis for that matter £70k a week :)

  • 34 Jail for Ashley // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    Slank,
    I’d be happy to pay the same as Swansea fans, and btw were only a fiver cheaper than Spurs on cat A, B and C games almost the price of a plastic bottle of Carling

  • 35 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    Jail @ 23

    I believe that we offered the highest amount / package from all those clubs that bid for PEA. However, he decided that money wasn’t everything.

    We aren’t in the same league as Arsenal, ManU, Man City and Chelsea in the amount they are prepared to pay but then again the players they are after wouldn’t want to come us. They want success and trophies, something we cannot provide them based on our history in the last 50 years.

  • 36 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Take the emotional attachment of the toon away and think of the toon as a cinema.
    The movie been shown has no stars, lousy plot, you have been told the ending and the reviews slate it. Would u still go?

    The old adage of putting 11 dustbins on the pitch with blk n white shirts on and the ground will be full is still true and thats why cashley gets away with doing what he likes

  • 37 Wiz // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    It is possible, I suppose, that Ashley is staring out the agents and wants to push through a better deal as the end of the window approaches. It’s much more likely that the panicky splurge in January is the end of our investment for the calendar year, and was simply brought forward from the planned spending this summer in any case. It is also possible that players like Gouffran and Bigirimana and Anita are getting to grips with the Premiership, but this is unlikely to my mind, as they have not been given serious run-outs in the friendlies. Kinnear has derailed Pardew’s efforts to strengthen the defence, and declared attack is a priority. He might be right about that, and our failure to stump up for Gomis may turn out to be a terrible mistake, but we are shipping fifty-plus goals a season, and have done for three seasons, and there is no effort at all to change that. That has to be a mistake, doesn’t it?

  • 38 geordiemark // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    if its the owner of lyon or the player and agents who cares but like hell would I pay 7m for a player I can get a year later for nothing doesnt make any sence at all, find another striker am sure theres a few very good quality ones out there but then again MA has got a loan player in mr remy on 80 grand a week maybe thats all were going to get and in that case god help us with pardew turnip at the helm

  • 39 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    Anyone who thinks that we outbid, or offered more money than Dortmund for PEA needs their head checked.

  • 40 guvnor // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    NUFC have put a £12 million bid in for Javier Hernandez and are close to signing Tom Ince, Joe Kinnear said last night at the match!

  • 41 stuart no9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    i really struggle to understand how some people think, coz we got one player on loan , evrything is sorted, We are no diferent now to what we were against QPR West Ham and Arsenal at the end of last season. We knew then we had to spend money- we havnt , so how or why are we going to be any better? Is pards going to do what he has never done before and play attacking football??? doubt it, so where is the change. i have never been so dissapointed as i am now at being a fan of this club .It will never change as long as ash is in charge – thats a fact,

  • 42 wolfshead@toon // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    @36

    theres no bigger optimist than a toon fan

  • 43 geordiemark // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    BlacknWhiteBarmy

    ashley will only go so far and then all hell will break loose and you wont see him for dust then out of nowhere mr ashley puts the club up for sale because hes took a paddy when hes been insulted left right and centre the man deserves everything he gets

  • 44 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Stu. Dont think any fans are thinking 1 loanee is sufficient. It just seems that the urgency has gone after we got remy.

    Really not looking forward to this season.

  • 45 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Tommy @ 32

    ‘..get a good manager..’

    How many times have we heard this from our fans and how many managers have we had in recent years and how much success has each achieved?

    I’m assuming that ‘Good Managers’ are already employed by clubs. As a curiosity can you name a few ‘Good Managers’ who are currently not employed?

  • 46 Rooster // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Stuart, AP will come out and say it was a good workout, it was just a nonentity imo, you pay to watch a game, we all want to get up of our seats at anytime at SJP, sat twiddling my thumbs for the vast majotity of it, as I mentioned far too many of our players do not look up for it.

    Jonas was maybe our best player until he went off, now that is the first time I have said anything positive about the lad for maybe a year and a half, so that shows the quality getting served up, Sissoko looks like his heads up his backside, and as I mentioned Benny floating around with the odd bit of flash but that was it he just dosnt impose himself on games enough, and the fact that he has been in Greggs most of the summer dosnt help, Marv just looks plain unhappy as does Anita.

    Negative posts at this moment in time, I just feel like a lot of others nothing so far learned from last season, and the disgraceful bollocks up of our training program last season our coaches should be hanging from the Tyne Bridge right now, they should have been sacked manager coaches end of story, they have got another chance incredibly, but I for one aint putting up watching the dross of last season AGAIN.

  • 47 geordiemark // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    I dont think really we were in with a chance of signing the lad really ashley is just far to tight to release the money, the defence and creative players are concerning me more id personally drop taylor into the tyne hes a terrible defender id be after that belguim player and a winger like sinclair plus a striker and if ameobi takes the huff let him go

  • 48 Yohan Kebab // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    i ordered my first tickets off the nufc website last saturday for the charity match, surely they should be here by now?

  • 49 BlacknWhiteBarmy // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    Geordiemark. Newcastle supporters have got the driest powder in all the world. A few misspelt signs wont change him and insults wont hurt the man who is been taken to court over zero hour contracts.

  • 50 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Ruddy

    It was quoted by his French club. They said they would honour an agreement with him that he could choose his next club irrespective of which buying club had the best offer / package on the table.

  • 51 OhSholaAmeobi // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Can’t help but feel it’s a blessing in disguise, shelling out £10m for a 28 year old in the last year of their contract from a lower league is never good for any team unless they’re a Van Persie.

  • 52 Jail for Ashley // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Slank,
    I wonder if PEA was aware we’d still be haggling over agents fees.

  • 53 mattyNUFC // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    ruddy

    we all know that. but we should’ve had him wrapped up earlier if he was our number one target. it was his own dad that said he and his son both hoped anything would be wrapped up early. better yet, we should have fronted the money in january

    couldashouldawoulda i guess. but again, 8mil for gomis and 70k a week? our board and scouting staff need THEIR heads checked for that, man

  • 54 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    Jail

    We will never know !!

  • 55 Wiz // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Slank @44 … Glenn Hoddle and George Graham off the top of my head …

  • 56 geordiemark // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    after watching last seasons rubbish we were handed out not just by the manager but the coaches and players maybe these lot should go out around the outskirts of newcastle and watch school boys play football because they play with more pride then the bunch of over priced over rated bunch of crap thats being paid thousands a week, maybe the players ect ect should go to estates and see people scrimp and save so they can go and watch these lot week in week out, all of our players should take responsibility on what happened last season and put it right this season and also the owner needs to either spend money or just sell up and get miles away from us

  • 57 toon kk // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    Slank
    Who’s saying we should get ourselves in major debt? We never go for mega money signings like top clubs anyway, but the players we often miss out on is probably over the sake of 1mil in alot of cases. MA has very little ambition have you?

  • 58 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    Jesper
    Very true mate, that’s assuming he wants to sign at the end because if we go into the season with him as our only signing I can’t see it going to well!!

  • 59 wolfshead@toon // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    slank

    redknapp cant be that far out of ashes social circle and it wouldnt take that much to prise him away from qpr apart from the geographical location haha

  • 60 geordiemark // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    BlacknWhiteBarmy

    aye your right there, 52,000 hurling abuse at him at the match and he will soon stand up and run to the airport though

  • 61 pawl250 // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    This is not bad news, for the standard of player Gomis is, his age and the length remaining on his contract we could buy two much better players for the roughly the same price and reported wages we offered him.

    Hope its true and we focus our efforts elsewhere, he is an average player!

    Remy was my number 1 target. Got him.

    Would like to see a cheap decent back up striker (Shane Long would be a decent shout) and Wjnaldum come through the door personally.

    At the start of the window I merely wanted Siem De Jong and Remy …..

    Aim to get Siem De Jong in January instead and we are laughing. Possibly a new centre back and right back in mold of Haidara.

  • 62 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    Alderweireld, Eriksson, Gomis and Mcmanaman would tranform us to that next level. Didn’t think much to spurs yesterday. That Chadli isn’t great.

  • 63 stuart no9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    yo-yo @ 22 – agree with everything there mate – its all going to end in tears – again.

  • 64 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    tads…so true!

  • 65 Graeme // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Wolfshead – floppychops would never work up in the North, it’s too far from his base at Sandbanks, near Bournemouth. He can commute to London from there, quite comfortably.

  • 66 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Geordie @ 53

    Ashley should sell out to billionaire Suleyman Kerimov of Anzhi Makhachkala.

    He knows what to do with nonperforming players and coaching staff. Have a fire sale of the players and sack the manager and his staff. No pussyfooting around and bugger what the fans think.

  • 67 wolfshead@toon // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    @57

    more like run to his ivory tower

  • 68 Spotlight Kid // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    Slank (@25) and others of the Bills-son pro-Ashley variety,

    For the umpteenth time, the club has financial problems BECAUSE of Ashley. He did not save the club, he overpaid for it and then burdened the club with over £100m of HIS ERROR.

    Ashley now runs NUFC to recoup the money he stupidly overpaid: by concentrating on easy income streams like buying low and selling high (not so easy now), selling naming rights to loan sharks, sticking his company’s name all over and treading water in the Prem until a naive buyer is found. There is no will to go beyond this model, nor is there the wit to do it of he wished to.

    NUFC will never compete again until Ashley and muppet staff are long gone. Just reminding you to avoid you raising your hopes, again….

  • 69 pawl250 // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    Kets this is not football manager, we will not buy Mcmanaman, Eriksson and most likely will not bid for Alderwield.

    Gomis is average aswell.

    Cannot see why you want those players! Especially for the price it would take to get them here!

  • 70 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    Ketsbaia9

    ‘…would tranform us to that next level..’

    What mid table?

  • 71 bills-son // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    My understanding is that the sticking point is not agents fees but the pay off from Lyon that is due to Gomis.

    Lyon are claiming his unsubstantiated press report of sexual ‘misconduct’ when no charges were brought damaged the club and therefore they say his sell on fee won’t be paid. Bo11ox of course but Gomis won’t move until Lyon agree to pay him.

    Those fans saying we are better off without Gomis need to get real. If Cisse or Remy are injured we are down to one main striker and in any event neither are the target man we desperately need.

  • 72 wolfshead@toon // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    @graeme

    i didnt know he lives in bournemouth! tynemouth is the bournemouth of the north tho isnt it? haha

  • 73 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    Alderweireld is available for £5m which is peanuts. Eriksson is available for £10m, Gomis is £8m and Mcmanaman is £5m so they’re realistic targets. They’re all fantastic players.

  • 74 pawl250 // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    Slank

    Its my understanding he is reducing the budget to finance a club with more realistic ambitions.

    He sounds like he is not punishing the team but merely changed his mind about having it!

    Wouldn’t want a billionaire owner who could do that, what will City, or Chelsea or QPR do when and its only a matter of time their owners turn their back on the club. Not many people can afford to buy them out, nevermind fund the club!

  • 75 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    Pawl
    There’s reports spurs are or have put a combined bid of £15 million for Alderweireld and Eriksen

    That’s hardly living in football manager land, where exactly would the harm be in at least matching that bid?

  • 76 kilcline // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    @Ketsbaia

    You my man are spot on!

    We should flog Cabaye for £25m and do the following:

    Sign Eriksson and Alderweireld for £15m
    Sign Mcmanaman for £5m
    Sign Ince or Sinclair
    Sign a striker maybe Guidetti

  • 77 pawl250 // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    Eriksson was last reported available for 18m

    Alderwield will not come to us…. Why? Because he wants guaranteed 1st team football to play at the World Cup.

    Mcmanaman is average, would unsettle some of the squad AND had half a season ….. Remember James McLean and his first half season …. Now where is he?

    Gomis is a realistic target, but I hope we do not pay £8m for him he is a very average player.

    Infact I think your choices except Erkisson would merely warm the bench! That says something!

  • 78 bills-son // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    Spotlight Kid,

    Ashley buying low and selling high – nonsense.

    Name one player he has bought low and sold high.

    There isn’t one.

    PS. Don’t say Carroll because he wasn’t bought + getting £35M for him was the best bit of business ever done in the history of world football.

  • 79 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    Exactly, we can afford to pay out £10m for Eriksson. Eriksson could be Cabaye’s replacement. Just imagine selling Cabaye for £25m and signing Alderweireld, Siem De Jong and Eriksson all for just £24m.

  • 80 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    Think spotlight kid has it bang on there tbh

  • 81 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    Spotlight

    The club does not have financial problems.

    It doesn’t owe money to any third parties, unlike so many other clubs. It doesn’t incur interest charges on the loan.

  • 82 AndyNUFC // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    Princemonkey @ 8, do some research into how much Wonga have done for Hearts with their financial difficulty.

  • 83 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    I quick crash course in Scandinavian names:

    Danish: Surnames end with “sen” (ex. Andersen, Jensen & Eriksen)

    Swedish: Surnames end with “son” (ex. Anderson, Jönsson & Erikson

    Norwegian: Because of its close bond to Denamrk surnames often ends with “sen”.

  • 84 pawl250 // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    TADS

    Reports that even report the bid is “audacious” lol coming from a paper I doubt they will sell them both for 15m, that’s saying Erkisson is worth 8-9m when he had a bid rejected last summer for 14m!

    You lot live in cloud cuckoo land!

    Never in a million years! You want players to improve are starting 11 and then current starters are back up.

    Not the other way round!

  • 85 kilcline // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    Mcmanaman would walk into our team, he is quick, strong and skillful. Much better than what we got, got end product too.

  • 86 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    Alderweireld would go straight into the first team mate. He’ll replace Coloccini. Eriksson will replace Cabaye. Gomis will be used as a squad player. Mcmanaman will challenge for a starting spot. We do need a right winger who can cross the ball.

  • 87 pawl250 // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    Kets

    Siem has already said he is staying with Ajax this window. Source = Siem De Jong himself.

  • 88 kt97toonarmy // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    I went to the match last night. The first half was awful everything went through santon. He can’t defend. Never have I seen worse. And the penalty decision was soo biest against us it made me laugh.

    Second half cabaye nd dummett came on I thought dummett would b worse then santon but dummett really impressed me I think he shud get 1st team football next season to get a better chance cause he’s better than santon at defending. Much better.

    Oh nd 1 last thing we scored from a corner!

  • 89 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    wolfshead @ 69

    He doesn’t live in Bournemouth. He lives in Sandbanks which is part of Pool and very nice it is too albeit extremely expensive.

  • 90 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    Pawl
    Alderweireld and Eriksen are out of contract next summer
    No way would Eriksen fetch £18mil and they already accepted a £5-6 mil bid for Alderwield

  • 91 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    There is no chance we’re paying the best part of 10 million and 70k a week for someone who is effectively a worse version of Cisse, it’s simply not going to happen.

    Gomis is a contingency plan in case Cisse ups and leaves, which I doubt he will do so I would be amazed if Gomis was signed.

    As for PEA? We should have signed him in January, but the lad himself said he wanted to stay in order have a decent cup run with St Etienne I think so it wasn’t really an option and we knew we were never going to sign PEA when CL clubs were interested, so we could have offered him the moon and the stars, it wouldn’t have mattered, if we offered a big deal it was purely a token gesture for Pardew to come out and wield his excuses

    “Make no mistake about it, to be honest we offered him a very good deal…” blah blah nonsense.

  • 92 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    I can see Kets continue to ignore my post ;) lol

  • 93 kilcline // Aug 11, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    I would sign Vydra as well, pace and movement, something we have severely lacked since Bellamy left.

    I should be in charge.

  • 94 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    Ruddy
    The thing is Dortmund didn’t show an interest until late, if we had done are ground work properly we could of had him tied up in January ready to join on July 1st
    But no we fcuked around as we always do and now the clocks ticking and we are well and truly up sh1t creek

  • 95 wolfshead@toon // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    id love to see wigan beat manure :-)

  • 96 pawl250 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    Spotlight

    Just because someone overpays for soemthing does not mean the thing he pays for is in debt….

    It means he has over paid, the club does not inherit the difference as debt.

    Clearly do not understand what you are talking about.

    Say club was worth 200m, MA pays 300m it does not mean the club inherits 100m debt because it is worth less than what he paid. If anything the difference is MA loss, and he cannot make it the clubs loss.

    The reason he overpaid was because the club already had a debt of 100+ million and that’s why it was valued at 200m, which is say what MA did pay, but he should have paid 100m cos the debt was their. Again that difference is not put ontop of the existing debt it is MA loss not the clubs.

    Some people need to understand accounts before opening their mouthes with totally incorrect statements!

  • 97 roy // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    Five new signings soon

  • 98 AndyNUFC // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    Wish people would give it a rest with McManaman. Bet you would take McLean as well – winger who beat a handful of average full backs for half a season?

    Oh and how they will laugh over his enthusiasm in tackling Haidara in training.

  • 99 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    Wolfshead
    With a perchinio 20 yard volley!!!

  • 100 yo-yo // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    I’m all for showing a bit of ambition and Toby would be pretty high up my list – BUT it ain’t going to happen. If you asked Pards if he’d take Alderwereild and Erikkson he’d bite yer hand off – so it isn’t down to him – just remember the guy who is pulling the strings.

    And in a strictly business sense – whoever buys Toby for say £8m including add-ons is going to at least double their money immediately he signs a new five year contract. The very fact our beloved owner – who has speculated to accumulate all his career and done quite nicely out of it thank you – ought to send us all the message – Mike Ashley is doing an asset value holding operation on the Toon – he really doesn’t give a flying f**k about our success.

  • 101 kilcline // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    Shut up Andynufc

    You probably rate Santon at full back rather than playing him as a winger.

  • 102 pawl250 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    Tads – if Eriksson is THAT good, why is not already at the big boys?

    Think about it…. Anyone worthy of having would have left the club by now.

    As for Alderwield, he will not come. Mbiwa is a BETTER player, and Colo will not be dropped hence back up on a World Cup year.

    He would refuse to join like he did Norwich.

  • 103 wolfshead@toon // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    tads

    forgot about perchy!

  • 104 joeinthecheapseats // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    Bills son post at 68 is on the money any injuries and it would take till January again to rectify
    See Stan the man is tipping us to finish 9th this season which won’t be far off the mark with another 2/3 players in

  • 105 stuart no9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    rooster@ 44 – i stopped going about the end of feb. i felt like i was being mugged every game i went to . 50 quid a time is all well and good if you can see things are on the up – however my problem was , not the players, but the overall running of the club . As you say , the club needed a clear out from top to bottom. As for not looking up for it, they have 2 choices . get up for it , or take a right tonking next monday night . worrying times.

  • 106 AndyNUFC // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    Nah Kilcline he should be our left winger with Dummett or Haidara left back.

  • 107 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    Pawl
    Seeing as we can’t compete with the big boys as were told every fcuking day is Eriksen not the calibre of player we should be looking at? Young exciting with bags of potential?

  • 108 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    Tads

    Well supposedly we drive a hard bargain, but in driving a hard bargain we miss out on quality players. It’s the way we operate and will continue to do so.

    Prepare for us missing out on our No 1 targets for years to come.

  • 109 kilcline // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    AndyNufc

    You’re alright lad, you’re alright.

  • 110 Graeme // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Joe – and if we dont get another 2/3 players in – where does that leave us??

  • 111 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Yo Yo
    Just can’t see the harm in bidding, even if they said they didn’t want to come at least it would show we were trying to move forwards instead of once again standing around all summer with our thumb up our ars3 whilst everyone around us adds to there squads and goes into the season with optimism!

  • 112 Spotlight Kid // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Bills-son@75

    Ashley’s stated scheme was to buy younger players low and sell on at a higher price. This has been oft stated on this blog. HBA & Cabaye are already in the shop window.

    Slank@78

    The club owes Ashley a stated £100m, that is a huge and completely unnecessary financial burden. It doesn’t matter that he is not taking interest, the club simply should not owe it. When the club is put up for sale this £100m burden will weigh it down, as it does in all day to day dealings. Check out McNally’s debt free system at NCFC which does allow for player acquisitions!

  • 113 pawl250 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    My point TADS if you read my last comment…..

    I feel Eriksson has talent but would fail to adapt to the PL. Hence no big boys entering the race to sign him.

    Much rather focus on a striker than a defender who would sit on a bench, yes it would be nice to have him as back up but the real world does not work that way. And a winger who in my opinion is not good enough for the PL, why else would he still not even had a bid for him…… And before people say he has it is REPORTED by a paper (reliable source LOL) that they have! We were REPORTED to have bid for Bardsley a week or so ago, and Downing but oh wait Pardew said that’s rubbish!

    Gullible? I think so!

  • 114 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    pawl250 @ 71

    Slank

    ‘..He sounds like he is not punishing the team but merely changed his mind about having it!..’

    I wonder whether the players see the subtle difference, I bet not !

    I agree about City, Chelsea and QPR. I wonder what the Glazers might do this season if ManU fail to qualify for the Champions League and the subsequent loss of Premiership and Champions League revenue.

  • 115 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    Ruddy
    Great isn’t it!!!

  • 116 yo-yo // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    Pawl

    You are technically correct but also wrong about the overpayment thing simply because Ashley treats the £100m he lost through lack of due diligence as a sum that has to be recovered when he sells. Whether you call it a ‘debt’ or a ‘loss’ is immaterial. The book-keeping exercise is in Ashley’s head and may not conform to standard accountancy but he does seem to count it as a debt to be repaid when he sells – whether or not it appears on the books. Rumour is he was offered just under £300m fairly recently but turned it down for the very reason above – it didn’t cover his expectations to at least break even.

    And when you get into the value of writeoffs against tax it gets really complicated.

  • 117 Sazzer // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    What is our best guess on who this 6,2 Belgian 21 year old is?

  • 118 joeinthecheapseats // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    Graeme
    Without 2/3 more players bottom half of the league as we don’t create enough chances in a lot of games.

  • 119 yo-yo // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    TADS

    I agree but we don’t have an owner who will do that

  • 120 alreetlike // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    Who is this Eriksson you are talking about?

  • 121 pawl250 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    Love how spotlight has just totally missed my comment that rubbished his tripe about debt!

    People need to understand things before making incorrect statements!!

    MA did not put the club in debt, simple! He has stopped it going further into debt.

    That is not a Pro Ashely argument its just a fact. He just refused to clear the exisitng debt upon buying the club with his own money and write it off in the process, instead he cleared the debt with an intersest free loan which he wants back long term.

    Nothing wrong with that…. As for his regime I would argue this is the best NUFC team we have had since Bobby Robsons team, possibly potential wise better.

    Shame we don’t have a manager like Mourinho to show it.

  • 122 Tommyy // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    I can’t wait for the day he leaves. Just take Rangers and be done with it. Worst owner we’ve had in my opinion.

  • 123 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    Spotlight @ 108

    If I take £100 from my bank account leaving nothing in it and put it into my piggy bank under the bed it doesn’t mean I have a financial problem.

    The club is Ashley. The club’s account is his account. He has taken £100m from one of his accounts and loaned it to another of his accounts.

  • 124 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    Pawl
    Umm Eriksen a winger?? No lad he’s a CAM, which we desperately need
    As for Alderwield as a bench warmer, please, how long do you think colo will be here for seeing as he spent most of last season trying to force a move?
    You say it doesn’t work like that in the real world, what doesn’t? Bringing in class replacements BEFORE a player leaves? Because that does happen just not here

    And it was never reported we’d bid for bardsley or downing, it said we were looking at bardsley and had been offered downing
    Big big difference

  • 125 yo-yo // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    The problem with Santon as LW is he’d cut in all the time and wouldn’t be going to the by-line to cross – Predictable and easy to defend

  • 126 jasper // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    For all those who want to sell one player and sign four high quality ones- what about the wages? One out, four in, each on circa 40k pw, four year contracts, extra commitment £24m and then there’s the agents fees……
    I suspect that very few of you have actually had to manage eight figure budgets…..

  • 127 yo-yo // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    Pawl

    Technically Ashley has capitalised the ‘debts’ outstanding from his lack of due diligence.

  • 128 pawl250 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    Yoyo as an accoutant I am correct.

    Mike Ashley just wants what he paid for it back.

    He paid 200m, club had 100m debt, he should have paid 120m maybe less to make it acceptable for Shepard and co.

    Then he paid 100m loan, therefore his selling price is 300m,

    His 200m the club is valued (with no debt now) plus his 100m loan.

    This is not debt added on, the debt merely is still their, he just cleared it. He doesn’t want 200m plus 100m for a club in 100m debt.

    Understand?

  • 129 corkypants85 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    think we may miss james perch more than we think he was a good player for us last season just hope anita gets more of a chance this year think he could eventually be a perfect replacement for yohan cabaye if he has a good run of games . He was immense for Ajax like

  • 130 TimKrulFan // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Not massively bothered if we don’t get Gomis but we need a St and a Winger.

  • 131 joeinthecheapseats // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    SWANSEA City have seen a bid for Belgian striker Michy Batshuayi turned down.

    Swansea are thought to have tabled an offer of 3 million euros – just over £2.5 million – for the 19-year-old Standard Liege frontman.
    Perhaps this is the player JFK is looking at

  • 132 yo-yo // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    Pawl

    Actually I do understand and have managed seven figure budgets but unlike you I can actually explain to others how it works without rubbishing their opinions and trying to show how clever I am.

  • 133 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    Perch at CB for Wigan?

  • 134 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    yo-yo /@ 112

    You don’t lose £100m through a lack of due diligence.

    Due diligence is a process that a prospective buyer of an entity can do before buying in order to determine all the liabilities.

    Ashley decided not to do it, like he decided not to it when he bought Littlewoods the department store in London.

    If he had done it or any other buyer had done it the £100m would still be there.

  • 135 roy // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    Kinnear says 4 new players will come in before the window shuts

  • 136 aussiemag1987 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    Ah when are these stories about gomis gonna stop!! Anyways im liking that new kit we were sporting against braga. Anyone else like it?

  • 137 pawl250 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    Put it this way he will sell it for 200m, if he makes the club 100m in debt basically same position he bought it.

    Tads

    We reported to offer 5m, and reported again today mate. Read up!

    Also Eriksson is not the player we need. No way! He is too lightweight, he also played out wide for Denmark mate, is he not their best player? Oh wait players are not versatile these days …..

    Also its acceptable to bring a player in to replace a player in a year, but the player coming in wants first team football, espeically ona. World Cup year he will not come if you say oh wait a year then u will play. Mbiwa and colo are the best pairing we have, even if we bought Alderwield! He will not sit on the bench, have no issue getting him if he is happy doing so but its not going to happen – hence that’s not how the world works statement.

  • 138 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    Sorry pal. Yeah it’s Eriksen. My friend is Danish. I know quite a few girls from Norway and Sweden. I love scandinavians.

  • 139 Sazzer // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    I can’t come up with one that fit the profile so probably BS.

    Michy Batshuayi is smaller and younger than the profile but he plays for the U-21.

  • 140 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    yo-yo @ 128

    You don’t read as if you have actually understand and have managed seven figure budgets.

  • 141 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:25 PM

    My friends from Lynby near Copenhagen.

  • 142 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    Got a feeling Wigan will sneak it today. 2-0. Cabaye is so overrated. I think Pardew wants to receive a big offer for him. If it means selling Cabaye and replacing him with Eriksen, Alderweireld, Mcmanaman and Gomis, then so be it.

  • 143 Iwantcurlyhair2 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    I read this blog everyday. I don’t post usually but felt i needed to now.
    We are some of the most passionate fans in the world but also the most fickle I have ever come across.
    Most on here have written the season off already due to a per season friendly because the players didn’t give their all.
    FFS do you ppl watch football, teams with much greater players than ours have looked crap in pre season – should they therefore write off their league / CL hopes….. Get a grip will you’s.
    I totally agree the squad needs strengthening but we know MA is a tight fat cockney caant.
    And all u pardew haters…. All I can say is sad. How many managers have we gone thru in the last 20 years, replacing them at a rate akin to Real Madrid who rightly demand success due to the money they spend.
    So we get rid of pardew and bring in who? We will be having the same arguments 18 months down the line.
    The bloke is tactically inept that much is true…. Didn’t stop us finishing 5th tho did it.
    We all pay our hard earned money to merit our say but Christ some of u… I wonder why you’s support the toon

  • 144 pawl250 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    Also anyone saying Alderwield will offer height he is 1 inch bigger than Mbiwa and Colo, hardly towering lol

  • 145 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    Kets

    You do make me laugh.

  • 146 bills-son // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    Spotlight Kid // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Bills-son@75

    Ashley’s stated scheme was to buy younger players low and sell on at a higher price. This has been oft stated on this blog. HBA & Cabaye are already in the shop window.

    _________________________________________

    Ahhh…

    So this blog is the official NUFC mouthpiece then??

    Spotlight, Ashley has NEVER yet bought a player cheap and sold him high. So what you are saying is myth, pure and simple.

    What has been said by Llambias and Pardew is that it will take a ridiculous ‘more than they are worth bid’ before the club even consider selling a top player. Note: not definitely sell, consider selling.

    If Ashley was a selling owner, Krul, Colo, Cabaye, Tiote and HBA would all have gone by now.

    They are all still here.

  • 147 Wandering Geordie // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    So we have another ” Friendly” on Wednesday at Anfield behind closed doors.Obviously not a strong team due to Internationals.Reason? Was for Suarez but he too has jetted off back home

  • 148 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    Iwantcurlyhair2

    Everyone’s entitled to their opinion. If you don’t like it, engage and disagree.

    Braga, Pacos de Fereira, Rangers, Rio Ave do not have better players than us, yet we failed to beat these teams.

    I’m not putting much stock in pre-season friendlies, but if you’re going to make a point, stick to the facts.

  • 149 JAMSHA // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    its lukaku we are intrested in i guess…. on loan

  • 150 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    Iwantcurlyhair2 @ 138

    I agree with you about all these fans wanting to get rid of Pardew as they believe the next manager will bring success. But we have tried this for years and none of the previous managers have brought any success to the club even the great Sir Bobby.

    Also, the fans who want to get rid of Pardew rarely come up with an acceptable alternative. Funny that.

  • 151 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    Jam @ 144

    I thought Lukaku and Remy were the best two forwards last year. To think that Lukaku could be on the bench at Chelsea is a crime.

  • 152 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Once more, the facts get in the way of a good story.

    Rudi Garcia was available in the summer, he has managed both Debuchy and Cabaye, and would have worked well with the French players we already have, and was reportedly offered only on 1.8m Euros a year by Roma.

    He is one of many many managers who would have been a better option than Pardew.

    That, however, would mean Ashley showing some ambition. Never going to happen.

  • 153 Iwantcurlyhair2 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    Ruddy
    I don’t recall saying those teams had better players than us – fact… Please stick to yours also.
    Fact – pre- season friendlies are purely arranged to bring the players fitness levels up, should managers start getting sacked for poor pre- seasons?
    Fact we are not a big team… Under Ashley we will never win anything. Why do ppl like u think we should be world beaters? Fact.

  • 154 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    I think 186cm is an ok height. Not too tall. Think Alderweireld is tall enough for a centre back. He’s got a good leap. We can’t miss out on these players.

  • 155 terencelim // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    With Ashley the club is only going to aim for top 10.

    With Shepherd the club aimed for top 4.

    No Math, no myth, no assumption. It happened. Pure fact.

  • 156 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:40 PM

    Wandering Geordie @ 142

    Are you sure it isn’t Annfield Plain and not Anfield behind closed doors?!!

  • 157 AndyNUFC // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    If Perch plays today I can easily see us regretting him going. Plays with bigger heart than many better technical players, great at tackling.

    However I do hope Anita shows his worth in his CDM place. Dummett will cover the LB, maybe Tavernier can step up for RB cover. Streete could maybe start featuring on the bench.

  • 158 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    Big fat yes to Lukaju, even if its on loan.

    See Kagawa is on the bench again for Man U . Their squad is so poor, no way they will win the league. Hope Perch scores the winner.

  • 159 Yohan Kebab // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    pardew just called yohan one of the best players in the world

    dear me

  • 160 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    Wigan’s got an awesome bench. I take it Bearsejour is leaving?

  • 161 pawl250 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    Kets Mbiwa and Colo are better players.

    Cannot stress enough he will not come to sit on a bench.

    And he is inch taller than both of them, who arguably both a decent leap also.

  • 162 toon kk // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    JFK seems to be bypassing any of Carr’s targets and taking over the job himself. There’s changes to transfer policy going on as in age of players coming in. But our budgets are still kept to a tight budget.

  • 163 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    Iwantcurlyhair2

    We are a big club. Much smaller clubs than ours have won silverware so why should we not expect that from our club?

    No one is asking for Pardew to be sacked on the basis of pre-season, I would have thought that they are more annoyed over one of our worst PL finishes in our history wouldn’t you?

  • 164 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    Ruddy

    You have mentioned Rudi Garcia.

    Any others?

  • 165 expatmag // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    G/Day all

    So, no more signings and yet another inept performance apparently.

    Who here feels Ashley is about to sell the club?

  • 166 JAMSHA // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    Slank

    if we get him… all sorted

  • 167 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    Bearsejour has won two trophies with Wigan and Birmingham. I think it’d be a good idea to sign him. He’s got a good 5 years left in him. Look at Giggs. He’s nearly 40 and still playing.

  • 168 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    I actually feel that Wigan have the better team out today. Boyce and Maloney are dangerous. Man Utd’s side looks so weak.

  • 169 Yohan Kebab // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    i think we should attack one of the cups

  • 170 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    We should’ve signed Fortune 4 years ago.

  • 171 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    An inch is a big difference. Trust me. Alderweireld is one of the best defenders in the world. Watch out for Belgium at the world cup.

  • 172 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    We won’t go anywhere unless we get the 4 players in we need.

  • 173 Iwantcurlyhair2 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Why are we a big club tho ruddy? Because of our gates or our flourish in the 90′s? We have won jack in years so although I consider us to have some of the most passionate fans around, sorry we are not a big club in regards to being able to compete with Man U/C, barca, bayern etc.
    Anything can happen in cups, bradford got to final of league cup last year, they don’t have a better manager or players than us, they just had a bit of luck.
    I wish we were up there fighting for leagues and cups but unless we have a huge slice of luck it’s not going to happen. If we finish in the top 10 then it’s a good season. Some might not think that’s good enough but until MA starts treating transfer windows seriously, then that’s all we can aspire for realistically

  • 174 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    1 more striker would be enough to make us a top 10 team. Alderweireld, Gomis, Eriksen and Mcmanaman would transform us into a top 4 team.

  • 175 Iwantcurlyhair2 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    Man utd side looks so weak rofl omg

  • 176 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    We’ve been in the champions league a few times and was particularly good during the early 2000′s and mid 90′s. We are about as big as spurs in my opinion.

  • 177 count // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    Spotlight kid. Your perception is incorrect.

    Where exactly should Newcastle united’s debt have gone when it was sold. ie. were the people that loaned them money before the club was sold just have said “ah, I see that football club that we lent £100,000,000 to has been sold. Shame that. I guess we’ll just have to write that loan off.”

    Do you understand?

  • 178 Iwantcurlyhair2 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    Kets are u serious? A top 4 side?

  • 179 low fell mag // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    Amazing how people hammer Ashley for not spending.
    1.The transfer window is still open till the end of August, @ how daft you are going to look if we do buy.
    2 We have actually signed 7 players this year,
    3 More importantly the so called fans wanting Mike to spend millions don’t contribute a button ,not a sausage to the club, some have never been to St James Park.
    Have a good look in the mirror at yourselves ,Plastic supporters !

  • 180 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    Ketsbaia9 @ 167

    These four players. Who would they replace in our possible lineup:

    Krul
    Debuchy – Mbiwa – Colo – Santon
    Cabaye – Tiote – Sissoko
    Ben Arfa – Cisse – Remy

  • 181 count // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    Awful grammar in my last comment

  • 182 lesh // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    mattyNUFC

    Indian, few threads back that France and Belgium are in Europe.

    I wonder if anybody could explain why Israel is considered to be in football’s Europe when it isn’t on that continent?

  • 183 Tinman // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    We should offer United 15m plus Cabaye for Rooney, then match his united wage of 140k per week. He’s worth it! Allow Anita to fill Cabayes boots. Simples ;)

  • 184 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    Slank

    Benitez was available and said he wanted to stay in the league. Rene Girard said he wanted to manage in the PL. Frank de Boer is an up and coming manager, Solskjaer is making waves with Molde.

    There are many more, you’ve mentioned that Pardew critics don’t provide alternatives. There are your alternatives.

  • 185 Iwantcurlyhair2 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    So kets, if alderweireld had a choice between spurs and toon, same contract, who would he sign for in ur opinion?

  • 186 toon kk // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    Yohan……..@164
    I think we often have a good go at the cups but for what ever reason we usually get out played and look lackluster.

  • 187 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    Ruddy

    Thanks but are any of them currently unemployed?

  • 188 Hatem's better than Messi // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    Huge if your dick’s 2 inches long.

  • 189 expatmag // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    At the start of last season, Ashley sold Best, Lovenkrands, Forster, Smith and raked in over 5 million pounds. He brought in Anita, Bigi, Amalifitano, Abeid and Good for 8 million pounds. He probably made a few thousand in salary savings.

    In January, he sold Ba for 7.5 million but spent 18 million on Haidara, MYM, Debuchy, Sissoko and Gouffran.

    That little lot probably would probably see a net spend of about 13 million pounds plus an additional estimate of 7 million a year in salary divided by 2 (half a season = 3.5 million)

    This season, he has released Harper, Perch and Simpson and got less than a million in return but he has saved and if the rumours or true regarding Remy”s 80K per week salary and 2 million loan fee, then to date this pre=season, he has a net spend of about 1 million so far.

    With the wonga deal estimated at 8 million per year plus additional sponsorship as well as the additional sky money, Ashley is coining it in.

    The Gomis/Bent/PEA affairts seems to follow the well worn path of under bidding to show the fans a smokescreen pof interest with little or no intention to buy.

    Te fact he has taken on a 10% share in Rangers shows to me that is where his interest lies and of he sells the likes of Cabaye on the way, it is more money in his [pocket as he negotiates a sale.

    I wish he would hurry up and get it done

  • 190 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    toon kk @ 181

    ‘….we usually get out played and look lackluster..’

    You failed to add ‘almost every season’ !!

  • 191 Tinman // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    Iwantcurlyhair, obviously spurs to be teamed up with his good mate Jan…

  • 192 Iwantcurlyhair2 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    Ruddy, there is possibly hundreds of managers better than pardew, I think ur forgetting the underlining matter that MA either lacks the ambition or spending power to entice these managers to come here.
    Benitez btw wud never have came here in a million years

  • 193 Sazzer // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    Niklas Moisander first game:
    150 passes
    98%
    15 accurate long balls.
    4 interceptions

  • 194 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    Curlyhair

    Big clubs are defined by infrastructure as well as what they’ve won.

    Swansea are smaller than us, Wigan are smaller than us, Birmingham even won the League Cup. It’s not just about luck, it’s about ambition.

    I’m not even demanding we win trophies though, because with AP and MA that will never happen. The very least we can ask for is better football, and trying to push the top 6, but apparently even that is being too ambitious.

  • 195 pawl250 // Aug 11, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    Slank

    Thank you!! Someone who understand kets and his top 4 ambitions won’t improve our starting 11, we should be looking for players that can!

    A striker is first and foremost needed!

    Hopefully we can get the Benteke of this season, not too expensive but bags of potential and a real handful.

    Personally would like too see a striker and Wjnaldum! Who in my opinion is better than Erkisen!

    Wjnaldum and Siem De Jong would be my choice but as Siem does not wish to leave I would go for Shane long and pursue De Jong in Jan!

  • 196 Bambams // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    @expatmag
    Well said.
    Totally agree

  • 197 MacToon // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    I thought we bought Bassong “cheap” and sold him for a huge profit?

  • 198 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    Slank

    Do they have to be unemployed?

    Curlyhair

    I’m certainly not forgetting it, I’m well aware of MA’s lack of ambition.

  • 199 isleofmanman // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    We should have played hard ball a fortnight ago

    It seems to me that by not having the savvy to recognise we were being worked over we’ve been nibbled at time and again by the seller and agents

    This could be the overdue wake up call these people need

  • 200 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    Anyway, off to watch the football. Arrivederci.

  • 201 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    Hair @ 187

    ‘ Benitez btw wud never have came here in a million years..’

    Any reason why?

  • 202 Sazzer // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Williamson
    29 passes
    77.9 % accuracy
    2.5 accurate long balls
    0.8 interceptions

  • 203 expatmag // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    MACTOON

    We did. Bought him for half a million and sold him to Spurs for 8 million

  • 204 Hatem's better than Messi // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    It´s pretty clear Ashley isn´t properly funding a competitive EPL squad.

    Players aren´t replaced like for like and we´ve had midfield utility men at FB and CB far too often.
    We´ve been short strikers when Carroll left and Ba left.
    Best and Lovenkrands weren’t replaced.

    Gambling to do it cheaper … and he doesn´t care about the dross the season ticket holders are watching week in week out.

  • 205 expatmag // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    HATEM

    Agreed. So, as supporters of the lifeblood of the town, what do we do?

  • 206 Hatem's better than Messi // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    Milner? N’Zog?

  • 207 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    If V Persie gets injured Man U are screwed

  • 208 expatmag // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    United 1-0 up, Van Persie header

  • 209 Iwantcurlyhair2 // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    Slank
    Because he specifically has said on many occasions he will only manage teams in CL who can win trophies

  • 210 Szarka // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    No problem, dont loan out Campbell, Gomis can come in winter, or next year for free. We have Remy, if we buy a left winger, Goufran can play striker too, and we could keep Adam at least till january, so we have cover then.

  • 211 Hatem's better than Messi // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    Protest campsite on the front lawn of his mansion.

  • 212 Slank // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Ruddy

    No they don’t have to be unemployed.

    But I wonder how much would a really good manager cost in compensation to his former employer. I guess it could be as much if not more than a top player as a top class manager with a track record of success has possibly a better chance of winning us a trophy than anything else.

    That’s all for now. Signing off.

  • 213 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Zaha being started ove Kagawa just because he is English. Madness. Not impressef by him at all.

  • 214 fatman // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    pawl250
    @117 Ashley paid £134m for the club the debts were £50m for stadium expansion, £10m overdraft £37m owed for player’s most had left the club. Ashley had full knowledge of the debts what he did not know was it was secured against hall land, making the debt repayable on any sale. Ashley went on to loose £86m by his direct mistakes, or do you blame his un-wise move on his predecessors, was the likes of Xisco not on a par with the worst of the shepherd deals. its like crashing your car into a wall and expecting the wall to pay for the repair.

  • 215 JackButler // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    We missed the boat earlier in the summer when Rudi Garcia left Lille for Roma

  • 216 JAMSHA // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 17m
    Merseyside sources saying that #nufc
    will play #lfc in a private behind closed
    doors game this week.

    reserve team?

  • 217 expatmag // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    FATMAN

    According to some sources recently, he is asking 350m for the club and apparently, there have supposed to have been 3 interested parties, but not at that price.

  • 218 count // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Pawl

    Glad to see some other readers understand the basic principle that we are better off not paying interest on our debt.
    Why do some people find it so hard to understand?
    I guess that is why we are fu< ked financially as a nation/planet the majority just accepts debt and inflation and interest as things that just exist without really nderstanding what they are and why we have them. As long as everyone else is doing it they just accept it as "normal".

  • 219 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    Could these commentators be any further up Zaha’s ar*e ?

  • 220 Yohan Kebab // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    zaha simply put, is not good enough for man u

  • 221 scout // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    I’d cash in on cabaye and sign modric as replacement if we can’t get him the loose cannon at qpr

  • 222 JackButler // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    expatmag

    If that price of 350 million includes the debt then it could happen as we will pick up around 80 million a year from the TV deal and Wonga alone

  • 223 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    People saying Martinez is a poor manager. Wigan look a shadow of themselves under Coyle.

  • 224 scout // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Count
    I’ve the big boys are paying 8% on the debt it’s madness

  • 225 expatmag // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    JACK

    It does include the debt but from what I have been told, offers have only been around the 200m mark

  • 226 Spotlight Kid // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    count@172

    No my ‘perception’ is absolutely accurate. The ‘deal’ that saw Ashley acquire the club required a clever sleight of hand, then a lot of Ashley-propaganda which most fans have by and large bought into.

    In simple terms Ashley bought at way above market value for a club that was harbouring a £100m black hole. His explanation is he failed to do due diligence which is unforgivable as well as unbelievable as he would surely have sued someone? Now even if I buy that (I don’t) he has paid £100m over the market value of the club – his fault and not the club’s fault. However he has burdened the club with his mistake by attaching that debt to the club.

    The £100m should have vanished a lower sale price, and the debtors paid. However skulduggery dictated it didn’t so FS & Co walked off with a scammed profit and the fans are left with the burden.

    Get it?

  • 227 toon kk // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    If cabaye is sold he won’t be replaced with a like for like. I think MA wants to sell, its all about making money as far as he’s concerned.

  • 228 JackButler // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    expatmag

    350 million for a debt free club that has a 100+ million a year turn over now with the new TV deal set to bring in 80 million +, and Wonga reported to be worth 6 million a year.

    Accounts for the year to 30 June 2012

    Ownership: Mike Ashley owns Newcastle United via his company, MASH Holdings Limited

    Turnover: 7th in league, £93m (up from £89m in 2011)

    Gate and matchday: £24m

    TV and broadcasting: £56m

    Commercial activities: £14m

  • 229 scout // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    We need a Russian and we need him quick

  • 230 Spuggy // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    Why did we sell perch?

  • 231 expatmag // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    TOON

    That goes for any player at the club.

    I fully expect Cabaye to be sold in the ;last week of the deadline and no replacement bought.

    I also expect the club to be sold within the next 12 months.

    I only hope it is not too late

  • 232 scout // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    Did you see them figures on average wage? We were about 35 grand, less than the Mackems. No wonder we are struggling. Get some top boys in just 2 will do.

  • 233 expatmag // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    JACK

    Good figures and I know he has done well financially but I can tell you now, no one s going tobuy the club for anywhere near what he is asking. Try 250m and that is closer to the mark

  • 234 pawl250 // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Spotlight

    It is still Shepard and cos debt not MA, yes it was his mistake but would Shepard and Co accept 200m if the debt had been cleared using that money? Probably not therefore your point is moot it simply does not always work that way.

    MA bid 200m for the club, inherited the debt.

    200m was the value of the club, the asking price so to speak. If he offered 100m to clear the debt with the difference Shepard would not have sold and our club may have not existed anymore …. It was clear it was badly run.

    MA did not cause the debt, he merely should have done due diligence and reduced his offer in accordance.

    The way you attempt to twist it does not exist, MA is buying club which has the debt, he offered 200m for that included. He did not offer 200m and should have 100m of that paid to clear the debt, he bought the company or club at its financial standing at the time.

    He should have offered less, but as stated Shepard would have not accepted.

    MA since has reduced the debt despite being relegated and has the best Newcastle team since Bobby, possibly even Keegan era as Bobbys team was well managed, player for player we arguably have a better team now. Or atleast equally as good.

    MA has done this whilst reducing debts, with Shepard we were a sinking ship, and could have ended up alot worse, perhaps the fact MA did no due diligence has benefited the club more than you think!!

  • 235 Sazzer // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    We replaced Perch with Mbiwa in January.

  • 236 pawl250 // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    Expat

    He paid 200m, cleared 100m debt so arguably 300m and has improved the club and team to make with potential, players worth 10m plus, and on a decent wage structure!

    250m could be a snip, I doubt he would sell for that. Possibly 300m plus …..

    He wants his money back ultimately, but the shape of our financial structure and team is much more sound these days is that not worth more moeny? Arguably so! I mean Cabaye 20m+, Ben Arfa 10m+, Sissoko 10m+, Krul 10m+ you get my point

  • 237 Patoon // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    it wont matter who we sign, ther is a real weak link at the club, its the manager and after 10 games and Newcastle United at the foot of the table Ashley will hav no other option than 2 sack Pardew, its who comes in 2 take over that worries me

  • 238 JackButler // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    Anyone else think that Man UTD will struggle to make top 4 this season under Moyes?

  • 239 JAMSHA // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukesh_Ambani

    just mail him an he shall buy us…

    or his brother who is worth 5bill now poor felo

  • 240 expatmag // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    PAWL

    The value of the club decreased rapidly when we got relegated so much so he couldn’t even flog it for 80 million.

    Also, we came within a bees dick of repeating that disaster last season and to date, we have weakened the squad of players rather than strengthening.

    Whilst the value of players you mention maybe true to us as fans, in reality, when you consider amortisation on contracts, there value is far less than what you have quoted,

    We might like to get 20 million for Cabaye but I doubt anyone will bid it.

  • 241 potski // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    expatmag

    But Bassong was sold when we were relegated, and I assume he wanted to leave to play in EPL, and had his head turned by Spurs.

    He wasn’t sold as part of a buy cheap, sell high profit making scheme on player transfers. Not one single player has been sold that way during MA’s time in charge.

    Personally I think such a scheme can’t work. By their nature players are a depreciating asset. For every one that increases in transfervalue there will be 3-4 that will lose value. And if you figure in their wages and other fees, then there is nearly always a net spend.

    Take Ba, we got him on a “free” but there will have been agents fees and probably a signing in fee for him. We sold him because he wanted to join Chelsea and increase his wages, not to make a profit on the transfer fee. This was probably considerably less than £5m. Wages at just say £50k (maybe it was less but its a nice round number:D). That’s £2.5m per year. We had him less than 18 months so say £3.5m in wages paid to him. As his employer the club would have paid NI, insurance (if they could get it in that knee) etc and other overheads. I don’t see any profit in the deal. If he had been here until now (as the club hoped) then the overall spending on him would have been higher than the income from the transfer fee.

    I like the American reporting of player deals in their sports, where they quote the overall cost to the club So not such and such cost £5m transfer fee, but such and such costing £20m in total, taking into consideration say a 5 year deal and all of the add-ons.

  • 242 daztoon // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    Ashley paid 135 million for the Toon not 200 million.The debt inherited was around 84 million now increased even with an interest free loan

  • 243 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    Southgate comparing Zaha to a young Ronaldo :)

  • 244 Felipe // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    @Jamsha 211

    Probably all part of the Downing deal ;-)

  • 245 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    Anyone else think that all this accountancy talk is getting out of hand? Ashley is as tight as a duck’s @ss, the finances are getting better, but the on field product is dreadful, and in the game of football, you get nowt for a healthy balance sheet.

  • 246 Barras // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    Prediction. Top 7 for the 2013/14 season:

    1. Chelsea
    2. Manchester City
    3. Tottenham
    4. Manchester Utd
    5. Arsenal
    6. Swansea
    7. Liverpool

  • 247 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    Now that we have sorted out Eriksen and that he is not a Winger, but a ACM maybe we should sort out Fischer :D lol

    PS: Pawl, I see you still refuse to spell his name Christian Erisken (but prefer the Swedish version of the name ;))

  • 248 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 11, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    *Eriksen

  • 249 JAMSHA // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    Felipe

    hope not … could be part of a saurez deal ;-)

  • 250 toon kk // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    Pawl250@231
    Your right he has helped putting the club on a more sure footing financially, but he’s gambling by penny pinching a few mil here and there could transform this club. How much would the club be worth if we’d been relegated? Which we nearly were last season. Remy on loan won’t stop us getting in a dangerous situation again.

  • 251 Tommyy // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Ruddy – Yes absolutely. I’m sick of what I witness on the field on a regular basis, and I want it improved, simple as that.

  • 252 JAMSHA // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Barras

    liverfool 7th?????? no ways… they played some crap teams abroad an won, played celtic an lost.. with saurez moveng or not i can see them 11-14th

  • 253 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Cristain Eriksen needs to sign for us. Alderweireld will replace Coloccini. Eriksen will replace Cabaye. Gomis will challenge Cisse. Mcmanaman will replace Gutierrez.

  • 254 expatmag // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    KETS

    Wake up, mate. You are dreaming

  • 255 Sazzer // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    Not that many teams that make money on transfers but Porto make heck of lot on it.
    +39.776.000 £
    +65.727.200 £
    +10.683.200 £
    -3.741.760 £
    +36.220.800 £
    +7.348.000 £
    +47.282.400 £
    +2.574.000 £
    +26.840.000 £
    +43.472.000 £
    -2.552.000 £
    +7.744.000 £
    -7.128.000 £
    +10.648.000 £
    +6.072.000 £
    +1.049.840 £
    +9.856.000 £
    +3.080.000 £

  • 256 Sazzer // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    Ajax in trouble against AZ now and 3 goal against and reduced to 10 men.

  • 257 Charlie in the Gallowgate // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    Gomis deal – TOON will be calling the agents bluff. If the agent can’t sell Gomis then he won’t get his cut – so looses out – No deal, No spondoolies.

  • 258 scout // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    Man U 4th???
    You belong in a rubber room
    Ffs

  • 259 JackButler // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    The Gomis deal has become a joke now and we need to simply walk away and leave them to it.

    I’d rather see us sign a replacement for Jonas

  • 260 bri h // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/331841/Steve-Clarke-hopeful-Manchester-City-s-Scott-Sinclair-will-join-West-Brom

    come on jfk pull ya finger out

  • 261 JackButler // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    Deflection of Perch makes it 2-0

  • 262 jammylambo // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    perchino just scored in the community shield.

    shouldnt have let him go..

  • 263 Sazzer // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM

    Arsenal impressed against City yesterday with 3-1 win.

  • 264 scout // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    I reckon they’ll get ince in personally.
    How can anyone think man.u will finish outside the top 4 the bookies must love you lot. They walked the league and took the foot off at the end, settled squad and will probably add players.
    No chance in a million years will they finish outside the top 4, and Swansea 6th REALLY haha

  • 265 oldbobaycliffe // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    slank -the manager i would like would be gus poyet.last season brighton played good football and had the second best defence in the championship plus he is unemployed

  • 266 JackButler // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    scout

    The main reason that Man UTD walked the league has left the club. Moyes is no Fergie and will never get out of these players what Fergie did, personally think that 3rd is the best they can hope for this season

  • 267 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    Scout

    The question remains over Moyes’ ability to win a title. Man City showed that it doesn’t matter how good your players are, if the manager isn’t right, or loses the faith of some key players, you won’t win a league.

    I’d be gobsmacked if United win the title this season.

  • 268 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    Yeah we really miss a player of Perch’s caliber ;)

  • 269 JackButler // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    Get French Football ?@GFN_France 2m
    Confirmed: Aston Villa scouts watched Sochaux’s Ryad Boudebouz last night. Club would need €5m to sell the player. #AVFC #FCSM

  • 270 expatmag // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    JACK

    Yeah, they will sell us Bent to pay for him….LOL

  • 271 Sazzer // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    Top five teams is rather easy to predict. But in what order is going to be extremly hard. Injuries and other small margins will determined that.

  • 272 JackButler // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    If Villa sign Ryad Boudebouz for 5 million euro’s I will personally find Kinnear and p**s in his tea

  • 273 expatmag // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    JACK

    You will have to find which holiday destination he is at first

  • 274 JackButler // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    expatmag

    No problem there as he’ll be at Belview House daycare centre

  • 275 Tommyy // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    Don’t particularly rate Boudebouz, had a good season a couple of years ago but has gone off the boil lately.

  • 276 Sazzer // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    JackButler
    That’s not good news unless it trigger us to get there first or them to withdrawn.

    Carr should know all about this guy and his contract is running out next summer and he want to leave.

  • 277 colwell // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    Jamsha

    The same Liverpool team that without Suarez, ruined us 6-0?
    To say they will finish 11th – 14th is ridiculous. You must think we’ll end up 20th.

  • 278 scout // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:34 PM

    Ruddy
    They walked it last year, why look beyond the obvious. It’s 90% about having the players. Fergie will be pulling the strings make no bones about it.
    City won a title on the last day, in a lucky fashion. Man.u walked it. Chelsea have a new manager and players might not like the Jose style. City have lost tevez although navas looks a great signing, I’m sure time will be a factor.
    Man.u players know how to win a title, you can’t buy that

  • 279 scout // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    Man.u
    Chelsea
    City
    Arsenal
    Spurs
    Liverpool

  • 280 roy // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    12 million on the table for Hernandez and ince and sinclair according to kinnear at last nights game. Perch playing his usual game i see.

  • 281 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    Well I’d be of the opinion that they’ll be 3rd at best, but of course that’s a prediction based on the start of the season. It’s hard to know whether Moyes will suit United or not but time will tell.

  • 282 scout // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    I think villa will improve significantly and finish top 10. Mackems will start badly.
    Everton will possibly find some form also fancy Swansea to struggle

  • 283 Bambams // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    The more you think about the Gomis saga the more you wonder if we are being used.

    Marseille will be telling him to stall as long as he can, keep saying he wants Toon move, blame agents and all the way to the end of the window.

    In Jan they will offer 2/3 million hence saving them 5/6 million which they will offer him a good wage.

    If Gomis wants to come he would of told his agents to accept what they were offered or he could of threatened to sign a new contract at his current club and they got nothing.

    Remy ruled out of opener according to FTB Pro, calf strain.

  • 284 scout // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    He’s a chancer is tell them to stick it, get someone in who wants to play ie BENT

  • 285 nut meg // Aug 11, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    sazzer
    maybe this is the one.

    THE PROFILE FOR DJORDJE DESPOTOVIC
    Djordje Despotovic
    © unbekannt
    Name in native country: ????? ??????????
    Date of birth: 04.03.1992
    Place of birth: Loznica
    Age: 21
    Height: 1,87
    Nationality: Serbia
    Position: Striker – Centre Forward
    Market value: 650.000 £
    750.000 € Market value – development: Djordje Despotovic

  • 286 Sazzer // Aug 11, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    Tommyy
    He had better players around him then when they finished 5 th. Marvin Martin, Brown Ideye, Maurice-Belay and Maiga all have left since then.

    Still got 7 assist last season in relegation struggling team, and he got them against teams like Lyon and PSG.

  • 287 Spotlight Kid // Aug 11, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    Pawl@234

    This is a complex topic in which issues have been conflated and received wisdoms bought into. It is also dredging very, VERY murky waters.

    The simple version I have already stated, in summary MA made an error and overpaid by £100m. FS & pals ran away giggling because they had run the club into the ground but still made a profit out of MA’s profligacy. Easy to explain but hard to believe given NUFC was a quoted company on the Stock Exchange at the time.

    Problem is with this cautionary tale, Ashley didn’t simply buy it one day, he gradually took the club over via gradual acquisition of shares to establish a dominant majority shareholder. The price of these shares was based on the published accounts and statutory declarations to the SE about the state of the business.

    Had the SE been made aware of this £100m black hole in the accounts the price of shares (including Ashley’s) would surely have tumbled, and with them the open market value of the club. It could also have placed the previous owners under investigation.

    This scenario would have left NUFC wide open to a takeover by a 3rd party for relative peanuts (ie NUFC’s true market value at the time). It is therefore a reasonable supposition that the £100m was possibly hidden with the full knowledge of both Ashley and FS to keep the share price up until the deal was done, and the subsequent cock and bull story about due diligence dreamed up.

    Remember, once Ashley acquired a majority holding he IMMEDIATELY (next day) de-listed NUFC as a company so it was no longer answerable to SE rules. Either way the whole thing niffs, and any artificial overvaluing of the club and hiding of debt that might have occurred then will never be cleared until it passes to a new owner.

    The only question is, what level of loss would Ashley accept – because somewhere along the line any artificially inflated price has to re-adjust? Or is his ego not up to admitting this possible error? Or is he afraid of another buyer uncovering possible skulduggery? We can but postulate…. and that is all I am doing here, for I do not have the full facts in front of me. I could be 100% wrong, of course I could.

    Meanwhile let’s all believe instead he is the benevolent benefactor who saved the club from extinction – hoorah!!

  • 288 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 11, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Gomis will be our first signing of the january transfer window!

  • 289 Rooster // Aug 11, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    JK come on, you are a fella who likes to argue your own corner, that’s fair enough, you have made quite a few boasts over the last months or so, Remy is a start, but we are in to the 41st day of the window, most have got their backs up including myself, deliver the goods, back up your statements, and everything is rosy!!1

    If you start banging out excuses ie Agents fees etc then that is not going to hold any water with just about all of us and it will prove you are a Billy Bullshi.ter just like our manager.

    Its up to you fella.

  • 290 Owldman // Aug 12, 2013 at 7:52 AM

    About time FIFA told players that they employ the agent and that the player should pay any fees involved, but sadly too many clubs have been so keen to get the players they were after that they gave agents what ever the asked.I sincerely hope that Toon do not give in to this agents demands, we have agreed the fee & wages.However I think the player is also stalling as his first preference appears to be Marseilles, no one can blame Ashley for that.




previous post: It Was A Huge Shock For Geordie Fans

next post: Newcastle French Target Will Request A Transfer