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Magpies Expand Scouting Network – Home Based Players Important

11:50 am, Tuesday, August 13th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 55 Comments

An interview published in the Journal today with Alan Pardew as the Newcastle manager saying that Newcastle want to broaden their scouting activities to take in English based players, but that’s not the first time we’ve heard that from Pardew this summer.

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Alan Pardew – must keep out eye on English based players

This is what the Newcastle manager said in the Journal today:

“What is important is that we keep a very, very close eye on English-based players and Joe Kinnear, Graham and myself are very aware that although the French market has been massively successful for us we can’t take our eye off that.”

“We’re in the fabric of the scouting network there. We’re as good as Lyon, Paris Saint-Germain, St Etienne – our network is as good as theirs and because we’ve got Premier League finance and French players have been successful here their agents want to bring their players here and the players want to come here.”

“We have a massive advantage there but we can’t constantly take that advantage and not take our eye off other parts of the world, and also the English market because we’re getting very close to the UEFA limit on foreign players.”

“We’ve lost Perchy, we almost lost Dan Gosling so it’s something we do need to focus on.” “Joe is very much aware that he does need to co-ordinate that and we need to make our search bigger.”
“Graham can’t be everywhere – he can’t be all over England, all over Holland and France.”

“That’s impossible. Our scouts can be and then Graham comes in near the end and I come in right near the end.”

We suppose Joe Kinnear will cover the games in England next season as part of his new job on Tyneside, and Graham Carr will continue to scout players in countries like France, Holland, Belgium and maybe even Portugal.

But we have already lost three English players this summer in Danny Simpson, Steve Harper and James Perch, and both Dan Gosling and Mike Williamson could also leave the club before September rolls around.

That’s one reason we should be after Blackpool’s Tom, Ince or Scott Sinclair of Manchester City – two English players.

What do you think?

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55 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Edd Case // Aug 13, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Wish we’d buy Ince.

    Happy to let Cabaye go as Anita is a better passer of the ball and HBA can take free kicks better.
    We should cash in on Cabaye and spend the money on Ince and some real talent from Holland too.

  • 2 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 13, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    All this talk from Pardew. Can he just put us out of our misery and say no one else is coming in. Instead of this issue dodging politician shite.

  • 3 JackButler // Aug 13, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    We’ve done the French market to death, time we moved on to Germany, Czech Republic, Holland, Belgium and Portugal

  • 4 dantoon85 // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    It’s time pardew JFK and Ashley were shipped out or assassinated!!

  • 5 Edd Case // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    Never mind all the other Euro markets, we should look at what there is in England.

    Bigi, for example. Ince another. Hughes at Derby is another.

    There’s talent there, we should snap some of these kids up and bring the likes of Campbell through more often.

  • 6 JackButler // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    Is it just me or does anyone else think that we should already have this country covered?

  • 7 roy // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Lifelong fan Ed i am from Goathland Avenue Longbenton so publish the piggin comments man.

  • 8 dantoon85 // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    That’s just wishful thinking JB. Where probably scratching around in the bargain bins at sports direct cos Ashley is that tight

  • 9 Wowhatawhopper // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    Edd case
    Name suits after that ludicrous comment!

  • 10 JackButler // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    dantoon85

    It’s worrying for me, because everytime someone at the clubs comes out and speaks to the press we find out just how poorly we are being run.

    The home market has to be the priority for finding young players

  • 11 toonhunter // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    Hey guys long time reader first post, never
    In my life have I seen a backroom team as inept a
    As this, but gotta stay behind the team. I personally
    Think we should try obertan as a striker a la Henry
    Could be worth a shot anyone agree

  • 12 JackButler // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    Arsenal, West Brom and Newcastle are yet to spend anything during this window

    Downing has completed his move to West Ham

  • 13 blew // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    ‘We have been very successful in the French market’
    says Pardew, I agree. Then I look at last seasons league table.

  • 14 Yohan Kebab // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    for anyone thinking that we can just get rid of cabs

    When @YCabayeofficiel played in the PL last season, NUFC earned 1.3 pts per game on average. Without him, it was just 0.6! #nufc

  • 15 lesh // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    ‘Joe is very much aware that he does need to co-ordinate that and we need to make our search bigger.’ says Pardew.

    Good grief, does he not know Joe’s got enough to do getting his back off his bed in the mornings without piling more responsibilities on him!

    We need to recruit a Director of Football to take responsibility for all this development work that needs to be done!

  • 16 dantoon85 // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Gerard houllier For DOF

  • 17 lesh // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    • We need to recruit a Director of Football …….. Yes I know!

  • 18 lesh // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    dantoon85….. Is Houllier a wish or informed speculation?

    I’d rather have Hiddinck who’s doing nowt at the mo. He could act as Joe’s assistant and learn from the great man.

  • 19 dantoon85 // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    @lesh

    Just wishful thinking mate, although hiddinck is a good shout too

  • 20 JackButler // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Why the hell would anyone want Houllier or Hiddinck as Director of Football???

    Either of them would be a better bet as manager

  • 21 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Lesh…I bet he was ;)

    Does anybody know who else does the scouting for us?

    Would love for us to sign more English and English based players 17 and under…better develop good young players us self.

    …a really good idea would be to link up with a League 1. team who are very good at developing talent – maybe even a Champ. side.

  • 22 cheick n bake // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Sell cabaye?!?!? Wtf are people smoking

  • 23 lesh // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    What an opportunity for Hiddinck though. Learning from Joe’d be a bit like Mourinho and AVB learning from Bobby Robson.

    There aren’t many true masters left in British football and Joe is a legend in his own lunchtime

  • 24 richyg01 // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    SSN WebChat:

    Q: Is there anything in jelle vossen to newcastle? Or are these just rumours?

    A: I have been told there is no truth in that, from Newcastle and the player’s end.

  • 25 dantoon85 // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    I’d rather tiote was sold and Anita given a run out

  • 26 richyg01 // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    @19

    Leeds?

  • 27 JackButler // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    cheick

    Don’t worry mate, if we sell Cabaye I’m sure we will replace him in time for the 2016/17 season

  • 28 richyg01 // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    Anyone think there is any truth in Liverpoo clearing out Downing to make way for HBA?

  • 29 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    richyg01…Leeds would be a good call (that is not too far from Newcastle anyway)

    …Crewe is a team I really like (but something tells me they already have such a deal in place with another team)

  • 30 JackButler // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Toontrader ?@toontrader 2h
    Lots of redundencys at #nufc behind the scenes. Guess cost cutting going on right throughout the club

  • 31 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    richyg01…they can clear way all they want ;)

    …last time I checked Benny is under contract here (we can do like do with Suarez ;) stand firm)

  • 32 dantoon85 // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    @richyg

    Think that’s just a load of bull mate but if it was to happen then I think we should replace HBA with Ince :)

  • 33 dantoon85 // Aug 13, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    @JB

    Yeah that’s so we have more money to spend on transfers mate. Lmao who am I kiddin :0

  • 34 Rooster // Aug 13, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    Just bring a couple of players in for fcuk sake, jesus.

  • 35 JackButler // Aug 13, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    Not spending anything on players, driving down running cost of the club by redundancies to office staff !!!

    Could we be about to see the sale of the club???

  • 36 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 13, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    JB…are you trying to make me smile ;-)

  • 37 ilovetoon8788 // Aug 13, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    Just after the window started in July, i believed like what others were saying on here that the window just opened and all and we got to be patient. And that we’ll get a few signings in by end of the month.

    I can’t believed that the season is few days away and we just got 1 player in, and that too a loan. With a rape charge and injured for our first game.

    what a window.. and we were skirting relegation the whole of last season.

  • 38 toon22 // Aug 13, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    With JFK as DOF we will never attract a top manager,nobody would want to stand in the shadow of such a colossus of the footballing world.
    The only reason JFK went on that train was for another monumental piss up.He probably wont remember where he was once he returns.

  • 39 JackButler // Aug 13, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    jesper

    Something just doesn’t add up. Club revenue has risen by around £36 million a year through the new TV deal and Wonga, and yet we are cutting cost’s???

  • 40 toon22 // Aug 13, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    Imo MA would have our players on a 0 hour contract if he could.
    Greedy fat ba2tard .

  • 41 Carl92 // Aug 13, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Few rumours knocking about we are in talks with Manuel Fernandes. Looks a good player but the Turkish league is nowt special.

  • 42 cjtoon // Aug 13, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    JB @ 6

    Exactly what i was thinking mate.

    its almost unbelieveable that somebody has actually said what Pardew has there “what is important is that we keep a very very close eye on english based players”

    I genuinely dont think we are scouting within England, which is beyond comprehension. I feel like swearing loudly.

  • 43 Rowan Milsted // Aug 13, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    We should be scouting in England, Germany, Czech Republic, Holland, Belgium, Portugal and France.

    Then there would be at least 6 countries we’re not buying any players from ;)

  • 44 JackButler // Aug 13, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    cjtoon

    Just goes to show that we are a two bit operation under this lot

  • 45 cjtoon // Aug 13, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    I think we are all just going to have to run with it and see where we end up. Its not pretty but you never know what may happen i suppose.

    For all of it i still think Ashley has done a reasonable job although he regularly shoots himself in the foot.

    I dont believe he is tight enough or naive enough to let us go to ruin. If we have to get used to mid table/bottom half unambitious football which is what Pardew serves us then so be it. I hope he can prove doubters wrong this year but im not too optimistic.

    I was saying yesterday that all we really need is steady year on year progress with real accountability for underperformance but it didnt seem to go down well.

    We have got a really good squad its just about getting the most out of what weve got. At least whatever happens this season somebody is accountable we have a new staff structure so Ashley will be able to assess where any problems arise from

  • 46 SeanNufc87 // Aug 13, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    I think if the club was about to be sold we would know, its not often its hush hush like Fulham, plus prospective buyers tend to do so in the off months before a window to put their stamp on the club.

    If it were true though, dependant on how ambitious said prospective owner was, I think a lot of you would get your wish of seeing the back of pardew.

    Finally, has anyone else heard we are paying nile ranger 30 quid a day as part of his release?

  • 47 paul24 // Aug 13, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    Am i the only one that thinks English players are over rated and over payed?.

  • 48 jackostoon // Aug 13, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    One of the dogs has tramadol twice daily, I think after the man city game, it may be time to join him

  • 49 Rooster // Aug 13, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    the season before last wee played some good football, we battled cisse Ba scored wonder goals, great stuff, last season was my least fav in living memory, we carried massive amounts of luck 2011/2012, we did not get much last season

    AP is not a top manager by any stretch of the imagination, he is playing football just to make sure we stay in the prem and it sucks, coaching staff are crap as well, if MA is happy with them all then the plan has to be prem survival to promote his other businesses and eventually sell up and buy Rangers, I have stuck up for the fell hundreds of times, but action is needed and needed now. I just don’t trust our imo very good on the whole squad being coached with what we have at the moment. I think it will stagnate, it needs a few shots in the arm to say the very least.

  • 50 SeanNufc87 // Aug 13, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    Paul

    No, its why we haven’t won anything since the 60s, how many players have ended up at a barca or a real type that are English in the recent past? Last one was probably becks.

  • 51 count // Aug 13, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    The club is always for sale.

  • 52 sa80teur // Aug 13, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    SeanNUFC87 – David Beckham, Michael Owen, Jonathan Woodgate, Gary Lineker, Mark Hughes (Wales), Mark Hateley, Ray Wilkins, Paul Gascoigne, Kevin Campbell.

    British players, as well as being inflated in price, are not considered to be ‘good travellers’ on the continent, struggling with the culture, the language etc.

    Giggs, Lampard, Scholes, Cole, Shearer and many many others could all have gone abroad in their careers but, well, we like Britain, don’t we ;-)

  • 53 tooned in // Aug 13, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    Rooster @34 – he’s already signed for Man City !!! but apparently the Holy Ghost is available on a Bosman!

  • 54 lesh // Aug 13, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    JackButler

    Where’s this story about redundancies come from? Christ, they can’t have many staff anyway unless Ashley’s made some outsourcing arrangement. But for what areas, ticketing, club shop for example. In which case, those affected could transfer to a new employer under whatever arrangement’s set up. Can’t see though unless he’s trying to reduce staff overheads which could mean….. a sale on the horizon?

    Probably just scurrelous rumours in the press.

  • 55 Oleg G // Aug 13, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    What about Germany and Holland?
    What about Poland? Russia?
    What about Belgium, Denmark etc.

    England and France are not the only countries in Europe?

    What about South America???




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