We’ll Be Looking To Win At Manchester City


Alan Pardew has been interviewed in the Northern Echo today, and says Newcastle will be going into our first game at the Etihad Stadium next Monday evening, looking to win that game against money bags Manchester City.

alan pardew in black wonga

Alan Pardew – we go into win every game

One of the things we like about the Newcastle manager is that he does come up with a game plan to try to win every game, and that’s different from some past managers – and Sam Allardyce immediately comes to mind.

Newcastle will be almost at full strength next Monday night, although Remy will not make the game and it looks like Argentine International Jonas Gutierrez will still be injured.

Here’s what Alan said today:

“Look at Manchester City and their outlay.” “There’s a statistic that they have spent £400M just on strikers over the last six years. It’s phenomenal.”

“But actually, when we get to Monday, August 19, they can only put a couple on.” “They won’t put four on – although they might do over the course of the game – but it’s still 11 versus 11.”

“You must always enter every game in the belief that you can go and win it. I’ve always done that. Even last year when we were really struggling for confidence and even personnel we had to enter the game with a game plan and a belief you can win.”

“Trust me, we will be looking to do that next season too.” “Finishing fifth that year when you look back at it, wow it’s going to be very difficult to replicate but our ambition must be to replicate that.”

We don’t think many Newcastle fans will be expecting too much from our first game next Monday night, but a decent result there would be a great way to start the season.

It reminds us of the start of the 2008-2009 season under Kevin Keegan, when our first game was at Manchester United and we played very well and scored first, before gaining a very creditable 1-1 draw.

Of course disaster happened two weeks later when Kevin left the club, and we finally were relegated the following May.

The same thing will not happen this season, but we’d be happy enough with a point at the Etihad Stadium next Monday.

What do you think?

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397 comments so far

  • pawl250

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #1

    Hope its true (Alderwield), but not likely…. hardly a credible source.

    Of course even it is true does not mean we actually will get him, given his apparent high self esteem.

    I think Gomis deal is gone, unless Lyon drop the fee we are paying to compensate whoever is asking for money. We will see.

    Hoping for a striker though.

    Gouffran, Cisse, Remy, Shola, Campbell looks weak to me.

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  • Belfast

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #2

    Think your mate Mike needs to open his wallet, if we’re going to try and replicate the 5th place finish Alan.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #3

    Belfast…I don’t think money can save us mate! sorry!

    …yes, it wouldn’t hurt, but with Pardew it’s just like pissing your pans; at first it’s warm and kinda nice, but then it gets cold, sticky and uncomfortable! 🙂

    *That money would probably be better spend at charity lol

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  • Rowan Milsted

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #4

    Ibizatoon

    I forget exactly where but you could always ask Kinnear. It’s the bit-of-ground-under-a-rock he vacated when we offered him the DoF job.

    Ha, ‘Ask Kinnear’ … could be like the new ‘Ask Jeeves’ but with less accurate information and a lot more swearing.

    Slank

    I think that it’s going to be incredibly tight this season between about 6th and 12th. A couple of wins could make a huge difference in the final PL standings. Saints need a striker and Swans have Europa to worry about; Everton have a new boss and L’pool might not have Suarez (and if they do he’ll be playing begrudgingly) but I expect them all to be very competitive. West Brom, too.

    I think that Chelsea will win it, City second and then… I’m not sure. Arse need to sign someone; if Spurs keep Bale and Arse donlt make a decent signing I can see Spurs usurping them.

    As for us… I’ll say 9th.

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  • Rowan Milsted

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #5

    And as for the above statement –

    “You must always enter every game in the belief that you can go and win it. I’ve always done that. Even last year when we were really struggling for confidence and even personnel we had to enter the game with a game plan and a belief you can win.”

    – hmmm. I’m not so sure about that.

    Anyway, I’m off for a bit. It’s been another exciting morning on the transfer front…

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    Comment #6

    Save it Pardew . He is one of the most defensive managers I have ever seen and plays two out and out DM’s at home FFS . I think we had 1 shot on target against City away last year and we spent the rest of the game in our own half.

    His comments get me more and more angry . He talks a good game but can’t back it up. Guy is a moron.

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  • Owldman

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #7

    Anyone know why the game with Liverpool was played behind closed doors?

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  • jackostoon

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #8

    Morning all,
    Swore blind I’d never go to a bar again to watch the lads, one gets rather vociferous and emotional after a few beers, but unfortunately I have to go to Gainsborough Monday and Tuesday so he better go out and give it ago or there will be a big bloke sitting in the corner with a toon top on crying in his beer, that’s if they have bars doon there

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  • Slank

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #9

    Repost

    oonarmydownsouth @ Geordiemark

    Reading between the lines from the figures it looks like the club were heading for self financing, helped by having no external interest charges and Ashley not taking out what was due to him, but the recent January transfers (purchase costs and wages) may have made a sizable dent in the balance sheet and took their long term plan off at a tangent. It could be that this as restricted JFK in how much he can spend.

    From the figures, it looks like Ashley will not be putting any more money into the club. Also, it’s not entirely clear that he will sell anytime soon, but of course if the right offer comes in he possible will .

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  • pawl250

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #10

    Rowan

    I say 8th to 10th, so I agree 9th would be realistic.

    I do think West Brom will be in trouble this year.

    If I had to guess roughly….. I would say the following

    1.Chelsea
    2.Manchester City
    3.Manchester United
    4.Arsenal
    5.Tottenham
    6.Liverpool
    7.Everton
    8.West Ham
    9.Newcastle
    10.Swansea
    11.Norwich
    12.Aston Villa
    13.Southamton
    14.Sunderland
    15.Fulham
    16.West Brom
    17.Hull TIGERS! oof, look at that!
    18.Stoke City
    19.Cardiff City
    20.Crytsal Palace

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  • toon kk

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #11

    Time we got a grip and realise we’ll get ripped apart by city. How can a penny pinched badly coached squad compete. We’re in for a hard season with a small squad and a poor manager.

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  • jackostoon

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #12

    toon kk,
    I’ll just stay in the hotel room then lol.

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  • Slank

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #13

    Owldman @ 7

    May be Liverpool were being kind to us as they didn’t want our fans to experience another humiliation?

    Behind closed doors is much cheaper as no police and stewards are required.

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  • Slank

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    Comment #14

    Pawl

    That table looks about right. The top 7 looks bang-on. Not so sure about West Ham though.

    I will be very surprised if Swansea is not affected by the Europa League. I agree about Stoke. They look like they are wedded into a certain way of playing and it could a manager better than Hughes, a few years and different players to change their style.

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  • VanToonMan

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #15

    Anyon else think we should be aiming to get a first-choice Centre-back (Toby A. would be good) and partnr him with Colo….then put Mbiwa as first-choice left-back as I think he showed in those last couple of games in the season that he is better than Santon at Left-back. He can attack and we would be much more solid at the back.

    Obviously when injuries take place he can move into Centre-back and Santon can come in.

    A first choice CB, LW and ST…without selling Cabaye….and our squad is complete for a top 6 push in my opinion.

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  • G.unit

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #16

    Just like we did last year when we played them away, AP!!

    One on the most shocking displays of the season. Hang on……

    Forgot about Sunderland and Liverpool at home. I can distinctly remember us playing with two defensive midfielders against Liverpool at home!!
    Will never forget that game for the lack of effort both on the pitch and the touchline!!
    However, I will still be glued to the tv screen on Monday night. You just never know!

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  • pawl250

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    Comment #17

    Slank

    I think West Ham will improve with the signings made, I mean if Carroll stays fit I am certain under Sams style he would be a massive asset to the club.

    I think they will do well. I mean the bottom line between 8th and 17th I would imagine a 10 point gap? Not much in the grand scheme of challenging top 7, to relegation!

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  • Slank

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Comment #18

    Coming back to the article I find this match really hard to call.

    Ordinarily, Man City should walk it based on their home form over the last two seasons and our away form last season but will Man City be playing differently under Pelegrini?

    Will we play 4-3-3 or 4-5-1? The team almost picks itself apart from the left side because Remy and Jonas are both injured. Will Pardew go with Goofy or be daring and play Dummitt at left back with Santon pushed ahead as an ersatz wingback?

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  • Spartak Miserable

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Comment #19

    @tookk – about time someone speaking sense – top comment

    Sense has been seldomly spoken on these blogs in recent times!

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  • Spartak Miserable

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    Comment #20

    Toon KK ***

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  • Tinman

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #21

    You know what, for once, well said Pardew. Its 11v11, even if they are 50m pound men, they are still just men. We all know its going to be very difficult to win, or even get a draw, but if we work our socks off and play to the best of our abilities we might just pull something off.

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  • numba9

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #22

    Prob bid 5 mil for Toby alderwld knowing Liverpool are going to come in and bid more sure yesterday it was spoken about

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  • mattyNUFC

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    Comment #23

    tinman

    you’re completely right. love the optimisim. something tells me that since the braga game, APs totally changed his methodologies and turned a page. I mean, he had all preseason to do it, I know (or at the least experiment) but he didn’t, but NOW he has! I just know it! working socks off = 3 points!! nevermind the rest….

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  • Slank

    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    Comment #24

    VanToonMan @ 15

    I do think we should be aiming to get a first-choice centre-back and yes Toby A. would be good but I disagree about having Mbiwa at left back.

    At left back we have Santon, Dummitt and Haidara. Even Raylor can play there but we only have four centre backs and Colo may be off at the end of the season and Willo is a player who Pardew only uses when there are no others available.

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  • Belfast

    Aug 14, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    Comment #25

    I think Man City will tank us if I’m honest. New manager looking to impress etc etc

    Apart from the Man City game the fixtures have been very kind to us this season in my opinion.

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  • mattyNUFC

    Aug 14, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    Comment #26

    ok, this is long, but good. taken from NUFC.com after the Braga match….Niall and Biffa’s take. If you guys don’t read their full match reports and the ‘waffle’ section, I highly reccomend it. here’s their take on preseason and the long season ahead:

    So, what we learnt since the side first took to the field at Motherwell in mid-July? Remarkably little.

    The biggest positive in terms of Alan Pardew’s standing with the fans since last season limped to its miserable conclusion is a certain collective sympathy for having been landed with JFK the pantomime villain (or ‘Billy the Fib’, as he’s referred to in some quarters….)

    On reflection, that’s not really much better than crouching in a doorway accompanied by a dog with a bandaged paw. And although Kinnear’s outbursts have been a mild diversion so far this summer, once he gets past oblique references to others failing to get bodies over that mythical line, Pardew will once again have the spotlight all to himself once the transfer window shuts.

    On that basis he’s going to have to buck his ideas up quickly, although this week’s excuses were at least original: the wrong sort of lawnmower at Ibrox and the wrong sort of opposition here today – Portuguese teams lacking the intensity required for Premier League preparation. That’ll be why we’ve played three of them this pre-season and faced Braga in 2012.

    As ever round these parts there are more questions than answers and we’re deluded enough to think that two pages of comments from captain Colo in the match programme would have found space in amongst the meaningless platitudes about great fans supporting the team pre-season in Portugal etc. to mention San Lorenzo and his own personal future.

    The reliance on Shola Ameobi and Jonas Gutierrez in pre-season is as depressing as it is predictable, while the bit-part players such as Marveaux, Obertan and Anita remain enigmatic. However the true folly of this pre-season is perhaps summed up in the positive impression made by the fringe trio of Paul Dummett, Sammy Ameobi and Dan Gosling.

    Although raised by Pardew beyond the realms of reality, Dummy has done absolutely nothing wrong and benefited from his time in Scotland. But like Sammy and his less than sparkling loan spell at the smoggies, it’s all meaningless in terms of the real stuff.

    In normal circumstances they won’t be involved, because they’re not good enough. End of. Go back 12 months and it was James Tavernier, Romain Amalfitano and Mehdi Abeid who ended pre-season with glowing report cards and high hopes.

    The fact there’s absolutely no excuse for not playing full-strength sides in both domestic cup competitions this season means that the fringe lads really shouldn’t get a look in, unless United become active in the transfer market and squad numbers become available.

    Gosling takes the biscuit though – looking among our best performers when getting on the field, despite the still-unexplained breakdown of his move to Crystal Palace. Presumably he’s busting a gut to try and get away, but something of his industry would have been nice to see from a few of his more illustrious colleagues in recent weeks, in particular the liability that is Cheick Tiote.

    The uncomfortable reality is that in the absence of any permanent additions to the squad, toon fans have been left to evaluate the recruitment process that’s gone on at other Premier League clubs.

    Rather than the likes of Spurs and Liverpool though, the focus is on comings and goings at Hull, Palace, Norwich, Cardiff, Stoke and the mackems – looking to make a case for three sides to finish below us. That certainly appears to be the summit of Mike Ashley’s ambition – just to be making the numbers up at the Premier League party, travelling in third class on the gravy train.

    It seems to have been largely forgotten that we finished five points off relegation last season, securing our top-flight status in the 37th game. At this point, nothing has changed since last season. And God knows there was plenty in need of alteration.

    The blip was explainable though (apparently), due to injuries and the Europa League. Our thinking this season is therefore to reduce the squad size by getting rid of regulars like James Perch and Danny Simpson (due to the fact we’ll be playing less games) but keep hold of said injury-prone players. Those who saw the January player influx as August’s business done early were right.

    While there’s much gnashing and grinding of teeth round these parts over the lack of transfer activity though, we remain as concerned by the fact there’s little or no discernible pattern of play throughout the club. A failure to effectively organise and deploy the resources we possess is the real hangover from last season, along with deficiencies in taking and defending set pieces.

    A straw poll of those still actively watching suggests that the club has succeeded in dampening expectations to an alarming degree, with the most optimistic viewpoint suggesting consolidation amid the expected off-field blood-letting.

    PS: after further expressions of respect today, can we now please put away the universal cloak of Sir Bobbyness, curtailing all wistful references from managers and players in interviews to Robson’s time in charge of Newcastle, Barcelona, England and/or the Festival of Britain Electricians XI.

    He was great, it’s all great, the charitable legacy is great. Attempts by his successors to summon up his spirit however are unwelcome, unhelpful and crass. The only sentiment expressed that struck a chord with us was that he would be greatly saddened by this shell of a football club, continuing to reduce the off-field head count despite the apparent financial bonanza.

    If they rename the ground again, we’d be tempted to suggest Bleak House.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 14, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    Comment #27

    I can’t believe people are still trying to justify Mashleys actions, the guy said he was going to put 20M a year in the only thing that he’s got going is that interest free loan which believe me is totally geared toward his favour.

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  • JackButler

    Aug 14, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    Comment #28

    And the prize for stating the fcuking obvious goes to Alan Pardew

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  • Slank

    Aug 14, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #29

    Jail

    Do you know whether the amounts paid out in the January transfer window were part of the £20m per year?

    Were the January purchases (albeit in the 2012/2013 season) part of the 2012 year or the 2013 year?

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  • hungrier than Cisse

    Aug 14, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #30

    @21 & 23

    duluded optimism is fine as long as it is recognised as that

    Pardew has done nothing show we are going to be more attacking, we finished fifth because we had three up top and won 2-0 repeatedly. He subsequently ditched this in favour of playing one up front at home (which should never happen) with Cisse and Shola as wingers (at different times).

    Simply the man is an inept manager, second rate coach and getting off lightly because JFK is even worse

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  • OhSholaAmeobi

    Aug 14, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #31

    i’m actually fairly optimistic. okay pardew’s still in charge, but we have almost no injuries and a stronger squad and we will probably bring in either a striker or a winger (or both, christ!) before the deadline. the main player for me is coloccini.
    forget sunderland, however much they;ve spent or whatever, they have a stupid american in charge who let bruce and o’neill blow £50m each on crap. the only ‘signing’ they’ve made in my book is giaccherini.

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  • Our Toon

    Aug 14, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #32

    Klatoon: You miss my point, we shouldn’t have to accept the better players leaving, the player is under contract and still has a few years to run on it why do we have the need to sell especially when you here rubbish like “we need to balance the books” well books are balanced and we have started to spend less. Some players are just indispensible, Bale, Suarez, Rooney, prime examples of ridiculous bids and their respective clubs rejecting the bids….Why accept he is leaving?

    The reason we advertise our players openly (Pards in almost every interview) is because the board know as fans we are fickle and will never vote with our feet, we condone the boards behaviour by paying for things like season tickets etc (Something I haven’t done this season)!! People on here will say support the team/badge etc, if you really believed that then you would want this mob out and the only way you do that is BOYCOTT, not all will agree but the ones that don’t agree please don’t complain that about decisions made by the board as you are indirectly condoning these decisions by spending your hard earned cash on match days, shirts etc!!

    The interest free loan saves us £20m a year in interest charges, proof is in the pudding, when Ashley said he would spend £20m every season what he probably meant was I’ll save you’s from spending £20m on interest charges, I’d rather pay that £20m on interest and sign players than not spend on players and save

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 14, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #33

    Matty,
    I missed that over @NUFC.com, very good read and fairly summs up the situation, they’re normally fairly impartial but that is our decline, they’re probably two of the loyalist fans out there attending games home and away for years, even low full meg would find it hard to call them two SMB’s for voicing there opinions.

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  • mattyNUFC

    Aug 14, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #34

    30

    yup. pretty much sums it up.

    31 – oh shola

    you’re fickle if you don’t believe PDC is whipping that whole club into shape while we continue to regress on the back of APs ego and MAs lack of ambition

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  • JAMSHA

    Aug 14, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #35

    i say we might finish 11-14th…. but not in top 10

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 14, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #36

    Slank,
    However which way you dress it up the squad isn’t as strong as the 20M investment he promised should have us.

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  • mattyNUFC

    Aug 14, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #37

    JfA

    i was annoyed in the past with their rather lenient views of an increasingly dire situation midway through last year. they’ve never sounded so defeated. how others can be optimistic in our current plight is beyond me. and for the ones who still believe this is part of some five year or longer term plan, give me a break. there is no rhyme or reason to this circus, no method to the madness, simply survival.

    sept1st 2012 i still wanted to believe MA had our interests in mind. above all else, his retention of pardew speaks more to his disregard and negligence for and to this club than any other act or measure

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  • Tinman

    Aug 14, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #38

    Wow, I clearly stated we would be lucky to get a win or even a draw if we played to the best of our ability. Some people on here must lead very boring self limited lives.

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  • numba9

    Aug 14, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #39

    Slank I think what we spent in Jan should in down as what we never spent last summer this summer is a new start but I think jk is not justifying his wages even went on holiday when window opened. Shows lack of ambition or lack of planning prob both

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 14, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #40

    Matty,
    I’ve always thought they’ve been a good read but thought that they had to try and take a neutral stance, or best they could because of their links to the club but I think this is going to far now, if they really surprise us and bring in three more quality players surely the only reason for leaving it so late would be to save on wages or bank on that fabled bid for Cabaye, who is being entrusted with these decisions and who is in on the act.

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