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Good Start To Season Absolutely Crucial For Newcastle

11:41 am, Sunday, August 18th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 234 Comments

With Newcastle again not spending big money in this summer’s transfer window, it’s going to be extremely important the lads get off to a good start in the Premier League this season.

Alan Pardew pointing

Alan Pardew - good start is very important for the manager

And that’s what Newcastle legend Alan Shearer has been saying in the Telegraph today, as he also talked about the arrival of Joe Kinnear at the club in mid-June as the new Director of Football:

“I was surprised, like everyone, with the way Joe Kinnear’s appointment was announced and the clock is ticking for transfers, as it is for every club.”

“It has actually seemed to settle down at Newcastle, but if they start badly and there haven’t been any more signings, then people will start to ask questions again.”

“Nobody knows what the relationship is like between Kinnear and the manager Alan Pardew, and what players they have tried to sign and not got, but if they are winning games it will all be forgotten. If they make a difficult start, then it could become an issue again.”

“The appointment took everyone by surprise but if Newcastle win some games, everything gets pushed aside and obviously that’s what every supporter hopes will happen.”

It’s a tough first game at Manchester City, but then we have two successive home game against West Ham and Fulham.

The Hammers game will not be an easy one, and they won 2-0 yesterday at home to newly promoted Cardiff City, with former Newcastle captain Kevin Nolan scoring again, and Joe Cole is back at the club he made his debut for over 14 years ago at age 17, in January 1999, and Joe scored a good goal yesterday.

West Ham have strengthened their squad this summer, although Andy Carroll is still out injured.

And Fulham have also improved their squad in the summer, and they got off to a good 1-0 win at the Stadium of Light yesterday.

We’d be very pleased if we can get 6 points out of those first three games, and that would be a great start for Newcastle.

Our fourth game od the season is at Aston Villa, and they looked a good side yesterday in beating Arsenal 3-1 on their home turf – the first time Arsenal had lost their first home game od the season since 1995, and the fans did not look happy at the end of the game yesterday

But there’s also no doubt that how we do in the early games of the season is very important for this Newcastle side – it’s absolutely crucial

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234 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Slank // Aug 18, 2013 at 11:42 AM



    ‘…we’re just too disjointed… no-one play to their strengths except HBA and sissoko..’

    Like how? Give us some examples.

    Are the defenders playing in midfield or/and attack?
    Does Krul come up to join the attack when we have a corner?
    Is Cisse always back in defence?
    Does Tiote not challenge for the ball?
    Does Cabaye not pass the ball?

    Please explain.

  • 2 JackButler // Aug 18, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    Anything from City will be a bonus, but West Ham and Fulham are both must win games or the natives will get restless and we’ll be on a downward spiral from there.

    As much as I want rid of Pardew I’ll gladly accept him if he’s putting points on the table

  • 3 Slank // Aug 18, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    We will beat West Ham and Fulham.

    If we are lucky we may draw against Man City. They have a new manager and some new players making their Premiership debut. Will this be to their advantage or disadvantage, who knows.

  • 4 numba9 // Aug 18, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    Lets see if we create anything as a forward line we don’t look that fearsome definitely lacking two more quality forwards

  • 5 JackButler // Aug 18, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Playing City on the opening weekend is the best time, it’s when they are fully match fit and settled that we would have problems on our hands

  • 6 Ashton // Aug 18, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    Alderweireld again getting outmaneuvered by an average Eredivisie player. 0-1 to feyenoord.

    Alderweireld was also Belgium’s worst player against France. And everytime I’ve seen him play (+20 games in the last yeat) he has been nothing but an average defender in the Dutch league.

  • 7 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 18, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    We could just as easily get 2 points out of these 3 games or worse 0 points.

    …It is not going to be easy being Pardew the coming weeks!

  • 8 Slatymag // Aug 18, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    Players on their home debuts use play blinders, for this reason, and also because City are stronger all over the field as it is, I’m not holding out any hope for a point. Would be over the moon with a goalless draw.

  • 9 daztoon // Aug 18, 2013 at 11:53 AM


    Can`t see it myself mate they’ve had a far more competitive pre-season than us and looked pretty good,while we well just looked the same as last season

  • 10 JackButler // Aug 18, 2013 at 11:55 AM


    Yes mate they look good but I’d rather play them now than in a month or two, but would prefer to be playing someone else tbh

  • 11 Unbelievable Tekkers // Aug 18, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Can’t see anything other than a comfortable 3 or 4 nil to city

  • 12 ash-out // Aug 18, 2013 at 11:58 AM


    If we have a bad start to the season & Pardew is sacked do you think he will be replaced by a superior manager or do you think we will employ someone on the cheap?

  • 13 JackButler // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:00 PM


    Personally think that if Pardew is sacked he’ll be replaced with Poyet as he’s out of work so wont cost anything in way of compensation. No way would we bring in a big name or someone already proven, so we are looking at Poyet or Curbishley

  • 14 Slank // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:01 PM


    Competitive preseason games aren’t an accurate pointer for what may happen in the league

    Preseason: Man City 1 – Arsenal 3
    League: Arsenal 1 – Villa 3

  • 15 sparky55 // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    slank…your optimism is boundless but I guess you didn’t get to any games last year and haven’t watched what’s happened during pre-season when we took on the giants of european football and showed them a thing or two.

    Do you honestly think we’re playing in such a way we can take anything from the game tomorrow?

    Have you seen any flowing football or signs we’ve turned from a bunch of mis matched misfits into a cohesive unit??

    My only hope is Pardew sends out the lads with the same mentality he did against Man U and Aresenal last year and even if we lose 5-2 or something having a go, it’s a lot better than losing like we did 4-0 last year which was so pathetic I was temporarily embarrassed to be a toon supporter

  • 16 daztoon // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:01 PM


    A hammering on open day is the last thing we need and i think Pards will have that in mind a go the usual defensive mentality.Looking forward to it but but then again i fear for us if he invites pressure on us again like the last two meetings

  • 17 Tommyy // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    I’m going to go for 3 – 1 City. I’m expecting a standard Pardew performance where we hold out for 30 mins or so, creating very little then City score and start to play as we regress to long balls, then another one to finish us off before just before half time. Then in the second half City will sit back a bit as they realise we can’t threaten them and they’ll grab a third on the break and as the games is won they’ll take their foot off the gas and we’ll nick a consolation in the last 15 against the run of play.

  • 18 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:03 PM

  • 19 jimmysmith // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    I love the look of our side when fit and City have a magnificent attacking 11. I’m really looking forward to the match. An away day at City is such a marvelous footballing occasion nowadays. Good, good, stuff.

  • 20 Slank // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    ash-out @ 12

    We are a mid table team who haven’t won anything for 50 years and as such we don’t attract superior managers, unless they are desperate.

  • 21 JackButler // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:07 PM


    A hammering on the opening weekend will set the tone for us, confidence will be damaged and I don’t think Pardew has the ability to deal with that.

    If we do sit back and allow them to come onto us they will tear us apart, but if we go after them and take the game to them and lose I can handle that, a defeat is one thing but accepting defeat without trying to win is not acceptable

  • 22 daztoon // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:07 PM


    Never said they were i said they had a more competitive pre- season than us ie Milan,Arsenal,Bayern Munich as apposed to Motherwell,Blackpool and St. Mirren

  • 23 Tommyy // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    What I’d love to happen is for the lads to just forget about the fact we’re playing City and knock the ball about and not go for the long ball, just keep it and try to pass and move and generally attempt to enjoy their football. Run the channels and make themselves available. I’d take a 2 – 0 loss if it meant we played some good football and created a few chances.

    As long as I enjoy watching us play I’m happy.

  • 24 Slank // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    sparky55 @ 15

    ‘slank…your optimism is boundless’

    That’s nice of you to say so, thanks.

  • 25 Slatymag // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:09 PM


    Good article that.

  • 26 sparky55 // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:10 PM


  • 27 Slank // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:11 PM


    Apologies, it’s the way I read it.

  • 28 daztoon // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:14 PM


    For sure mate last season Pard`s didn`t learn from the home game and set us up exactly the same and they took the piss.

    would be nice see us having a go like the Manure (A) last season.

  • 29 Slank // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    Tommy @ 23

    ‘…As long as I enjoy watching us play I’m happy..’

    Me too.

    I’ve been watching them since the early 60s and over time I find that you build up a type of immunity to the doom and gloom merchants, as I’ve seen it all before umpteen times, and if you let it get to you then what you end up as is a miserable sad old git.

  • 30 Steven // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    Folks u will find we play t ball on t ground and not just lump it up to sisse (cisse)

  • 31 daztoon // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:20 PM


    No worries bud thanks anyway.
    How do you see us lining up at City?.
    Do you think we will sit back like last season or give it a go as imo sitting back and we will be lambs to the slaughter again

  • 32 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    Alderweireld is one of the top defenders in the world. Can’t wait for him to sign for us.

  • 33 nut meg // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Ashton @ 6
    I’m trying to watch the same game but I’v missed the goal & most of the match because my bloody phones never stopped lol. Do you see a lot of Dutch football & if so have you seen much of Dusan Tadic at fc twente & what is your opinion of him if you have ?

  • 34 Slank // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:31 PM


    I think we will line up as:
    Debussy – Saylor – Colo – Mbiwa
    Ben Arfa – Cabaye – Tiote – Sissoko – Jonas

    I think Jonas is fit. If not then Goofy.

    It could be the above 4-5-1 but if Pardew is daring it could be 4-3-3 with the same players.

    I think the problem for Pardew is that this Man City team may be quite different in style of play than in the previous two seasons. In the past it would have been odds on that Man City would win. Their home record was superb. They have added some great players (Navas and Fernandino) to an already great bunch of players. It is no wonder that they are, in many pundits eyes, favourites for the title.

    We will be exceptionally lucky to come away with a draw but I fear a win for them more likely.

  • 35 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Slatymag…I think that article says alot about our predicament and leaves alot of questions!

    …it doesn’t really make sense how we go about our business (something is up or at least not right)

  • 36 yo-yo // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:39 PM


    I rate Toby too but he would be a luxury as we are not thinking of bringing on a replacement for Colo yet. That means we have three decent CBs – not all top quality and a bit slow and get turned yes all that but they will have to rotate anyway – assuming Saylor doesn’t get a long term injury this season so Willo as No4 isn’t too bad an option – and we need the left sided forward and another striker / playmaker more than anything.

  • 37 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Afternoon chaps (and chapettes) how are we all today?

    Was just watching MLS this morning, gulf in class is shocking. Any league that allows Robbie Keane score a hat trick must not be up to scratch haha

    Anyway, on topic, I would say that anything other than an annihilation would be a bonus, if we were beaten 2-0 but put in a good shift I wouldn’t be too downhearted, but the emphasis is on giving it a real go. Last season we went to the Etihad and accepted that we were going to get beat and ended up getting a tanking.

    Obviously, if we managed a point I’d be delighted, but like everyone else, I think our season starts against Fulham and West Ham.

  • 38 WWYCD // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    I recommend that people take an hour out of their lives and listen to the most recent true faith podcast am curious of opinions on it. The editor of the fanzine and two blokes talking NUFC with quite a few interesting points made about apathy towards our problems

    If u don’t agree fair enough everyone’s entitled to their opinions but its something to think about

  • 39 jimmysmith // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    yeah, we’ve got Buckley’s chance probably, but so what, turn up, have a dip, play your part in hopefully a top game, that’ll do for openers.

  • 40 ash-out // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    @JackButler @Slank
    We could attract a manager like Curbishley as hetheuld be happy to manage any club. Poyet’s relationship with Brighton began to fall apart because they would not give him funds to secure promotion last year.
    No way he or any upwardly mobile would come to NUFC under Ashley to be told their is no funds.
    We are a third rate club and as a result and hire accordingly. I believe Pardew is doing the best he can and if the fans turn on him at matches he will be replaced by someone even worse.

  • 41 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    Yo…and the podcast can be found where?

  • 42 WWYCD // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    iTunes mate on the true faith website has links to it under podcast

    On a side note am not trying to advertise the fanzine I don’t read it but I have listened to the podcast since before it became affiliated and its sound imo but then it falls in line with my opinions

  • 43 ash-out // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    The true faith website.

  • 44 jimmysmith // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Good grief, Kevin Phillips is on the Palace bench, is he 40?

  • 45 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:56 PM


    I’ve found it here if you want to listen to it

  • 46 OneAlanShearer // Aug 18, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    #40 agreed – our next manager would be JFK not someone like Curbishley or Poyet.. people are dreaming if they think that.

    When thinking about what Ashley will do you need to remove any prestige or emotion.

    Hence we will only sign what is necessary to stay up …why do i need to sign another centre back.. we have 4. Why do we need an alternate right back we have players who can play there. Why do I need to sign a winger we have wingers.

    If JFK or any DoF is to be a success he needs to make Ashley find some passion rather than business logic for NUFC.

  • 47 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    Ok people…I want predictions and we’ll see who is closest at the end of the season. Repost as much as you like and I’ll record all answers:
    Final position in league
    Number of points in league
    League Cup round
    FA Cup round
    Number of 1st team signings this season (currently 1 – Remy)
    Number of 1st team leaving this season (currently 1 – Perch. Harper and Simpson left when contracts expired)
    Top goal scorer
    Number of goals for top goal scorer
    Month that AP is sacked (or not)
    New manager if AP is sacked

  • 48 JackButler // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:08 PM


    Putting Kinnear into the managers seat would most likely kill him and not even the evil Mr. Ashley is that bloody cruel

  • 49 geordie157 // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    Hope palace stay up this season, but they need at least 3 more decent signings to have a chance.

  • 50 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:15 PM


    Harper Simmo and Perch were all first team players, they were in the first team squad, so that counts as 3 1st team players that have left.

    Why do you insist on twisting facts?

  • 51 Slatymag // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    Someone asked what has happened to Carr recently. Just a thought, but wouldn’t it make a lot more sense for him to meet with agents and chairmen rather than Kinnear. I know the player would be more impressed negotiating with a scout who has watched them for years and has a brilliant track record. Also with all his travelling he must have a grasp of some foreign languages. Add to that he seems more affable and less spiky than old Joe. The fella has been a manager, is clearly intelligent judging from interviews with him, and is in the loop as it were regarding current players.

    Just seems that if JFK’s sole purpose to being here is to try and get players in and speak to Ashley about who’s worth what, he is blatantly less qualified than a fella already at the club which I’m sure potential signings would respect more. That is not to mention the internal network if players phoning each other. Really, what is one of our team going to say to another player about the prospect of meeting with Joe.

    Just a thought.

  • 52 texasgaijin // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    predict one or two points out of the first three games. don’t think we’ll get anything against city, and two things we can count on: porous defense (they always let in goals) and an anemic offense. NUFC only beat a decent fulham side at home last year with an ET goal from cisse, and all of our players were healthy. don’t expect history to repeat itself this year, especially when fulham have improved and NUFC hasn’t. they took one point off west ham last year, losing at home and drawing away. the loss was before the wave of french immigration, which means they might get the benefit of the doubt for a home draw. 2 points max. #glasshalfempty

  • 53 JackButler // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:26 PM

  • 54 Sydney Toon // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    my predictions

    Final position in league = 8th
    Number of points in league = 55
    League Cup round = Winner
    FA Cup round = Semis
    Number of 1st team signings this season = 3 (Remy, Gomis, Sinclair)
    Number of 1st team leaving this season = 2 (Perch Obertan)
    Top goal scorer = Cisse
    Number of goals for top goal scorer = 17
    Month that AP is sacked (or not) = Survives
    New manager if AP is sacked = Poyet

  • 55 dubzy // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    Why Why Why Joe, should u be out buying players an not getting DRUNK U CU*T ! ! ! !

  • 56 MacToon // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:36 PM

    Ruddy, a little while ago you mentioned receiving an e-mail from Ed about certain err irregularities about people’s user names. Were you taking the p or was that the truth?

  • 57 JackButler // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    I’ll have a pint of whatever Sydney Toon is drinking :D

  • 58 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:39 PM


    Seriously mate, get off your high horse. It’s a fun competition. Whether it’s 1 or 3, it’s semantics but the baseline has to be set somewhere. Assuming their contracts ended at 11.59pm on the 31st June (which I stand to be corrected on), they would have officially been released last season. But like I say…semantics. Feel free to reply with 3 as your baseline if you really want to…

  • 59 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:40 PM


    I like! I think we’d all be happy with that!

  • 60 Slatymag // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    Joe was having drinking competition with the Lyon chairman, if he’d won we would’ve got Gomis for £6m. Unfortunately he fired down four cans of Spesh on the bus on the way there and couldn’t last the distance. On to the next target.

  • 61 JackButler // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    Spurs have some serious pace going forward and look good but I’m still not convinced with their back four

  • 62 Rotonda heights // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    Poyet will do for me, at least we’d see good football

  • 63 Honoured2BNUFC // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    We’ve been offered Jefferson Montero according to an article I’ve just read.

  • 64 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    Yep, the strikers and wingers are a priority, but every team needs 4 top class centre backs. Spurs have got that in Dawson, Kaboul, Gallas and Vertonghen. I’d love us to sign Willian though.

  • 65 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    Chelsea will win 6-1. Mata will have a blinder.

  • 66 JackButler // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:49 PM


    Do you know anything about this Toby Alderweireld guy we’ve been linked with???

  • 67 toon kk // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    Any thoughts on the score tomorrow night chaps?

  • 68 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    Yeah, he’s class.

  • 69 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    Forget targeting Spurs or the rest of the top 6 this season. We need to close the gap but we have much less money to play with than them. The target should be every other team and hopefully beating Everton to 7th. Hopefully we can also be there to capitalise if a top 6 team falters. I still think we’ll get 7th or 8th though…

  • 70 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    Not sure about Spurs and Liverpools signings. That Soldado doesn’t look great. That Alpas looks poor as well.

  • 71 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:55 PM


    Yeah it was entirely the truth, now whether the person in question has created a new username and is back to his old tricks remains to be seen, personally I think he has done just that, but yeah I was 100% being honest.


    I’m not on a high horse, and I’m not trying to rile you up, I just don’t understand how you can view the situation that the club has only let 1 first team player leave, they have left 3 players leave yes that will be my baseline.

    But to show you that I’m not trying to p*ss you off, I will offer my opinion and feel free to write it down, and if I am a million miles away I will hold my hands up.

    Final position in league – 11th
    Number of points in league – around the mid 40 mark
    League Cup round – we’ll win our first game, maybe our second but no more than that
    FA Cup round – 4th round
    Number of 1st team signings this season – we’ll sign 1 or 2 in Jan so 3 in total
    Number of 1st team leaving this season – think Cabaye is at risk of leaving, so maybe 4
    Top goal scorer – Cisse
    Number of goals for top goal scorer – predicting a better season for him, so 14/15
    Month that AP is sacked (or not) – he will not be sacked, he’ll manage mid-table in my opinion
    New manager if AP is sacked – See above.

  • 72 JackButler // Aug 18, 2013 at 1:56 PM


    7th or 8th this season would constitute a massive turn around from last season and I just can’t see it happening myself, for me I think we’ll end up in 10th or 11th and go out of the cup whenever we face Brighton ;)

  • 73 JackButler // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    Canal + has revealed that #Lille are prepared to consider an offer from #Newcastle for midfielder Florian Thauvin.

  • 74 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:01 PM


    Was it not reported that they’re looking for something like 15m euros for him? Way more than we’d ever even consider spending on one player.

  • 75 JackButler // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:04 PM


    I’ve read figures everywhere from 7 million euros up to 16 million but it’s well known that Lille are in a financial pickle and need to raise funds asap

  • 76 Tommyy // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    I wish we’d broaden our horizons away from France. In fact I kit want us to be a good side, is that too much to ask!?

  • 77 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:07 PM


    I was just referring to this season, I’m well aware we have lost 3 from the first team squad compared to last season. So far we’ve added Remy and Dummett to that squad. Time will tell who else we bring in and whether the likes of Vuckic and Campbell will be promoted or loaned out.

    I’ll put the on the record too…if your prediction is right, Pardew should go. With our squad, bottom half would be another failure.

  • 78 swisstone // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    Appreciate we’re more likely to sign than Willian, but could there be an element of truth if we are looking at contingency plans should a bid come in for cabaye?

  • 79 toon kk // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    People who think we’ll be 7th or 8th need to give them selves a shake. More like 12th to 15th. We were nearly relegated last season, we’ve hardly strengthened and we play the worst football in the premier league.

  • 80 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:08 PM


    Must admit to not knowing much about him other than that he’s very highly rated by people who follow Ligue 1 and that he has had a pretty good season on loan with Bastia last season. It would still represent a lot of money for a young player, something I don’t think our owner would sanction.

  • 81 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:08 PM


    Bloody Brighton…if we draw them again, I’m going down there to personally supervise the win! Couldn’t make it the other 2 times…

  • 82 MacToon // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Cheers Ruddy. I too faced his wrath when I dared suggest he had made up alternative logins to back up his own opinions so good to know we were correct and just in calling him out. I’d imagine he has more than the 3 login names that were pointed out.
    Good to hear you’ll be back in town soon and expect to see you at some FanUTD meet in the near future. I’ve invited Bills on numerous occasions but he’s obviously not interested in meeting for a pint and debate! Met J4A there briefly at the last meet.

  • 83 JackButler // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:11 PM


    From what I’ve seen of the lad, which isn’t a massive amount I admit, but he reminds me of HBA…………. well a fit HBA not the over weight crock that spends most of his time on the treatment table or back at Clairefontaine ;)

  • 84 swisstone // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Watching MOTD made me more nervous for this season. I think southampton and norwich will hav no probs, swansea and west ham likewise, bin dippers looked good etc

    We’re relying on promoted teams and mackems to keep us in the league i think!

    Every team seems to be playing or attempting to play more attractive football than us :(

  • 85 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:13 PM


    I’m classing Simmo, Perch and Harper as losses from this season, as they are players who finished last season but have not started this season, but as you say that’s being hard and fast with semantics but they should be considered as players we have lost this season.

    Campbell’s been loaned for a month to League 1 Carlisle, so it’s pretty clear he’s not as close to first team action as many might think, although I’d rather sign a senior striker and allow him the freedom to play on loan.

    Dummett counts as being available for the first team this season, but he doesn’t count as an addition, he belonged to the club anyway.

    Bottom half is a failure, I agree, however, I cannot see us finishing top half as the other clubs who were behind us in terms of quality have added much more strength in depth as well as quality and are in better positions than us.

    I think it will be a case of steady as she goes until January, and plug the gaps in that window. Is it any wonder why some people are very frustrated?

  • 86 JackButler // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:13 PM


    Come off it mate, who are you trying to kid???

    I know, you know, everyone knows that we are going to face Brighton in the cup :D

  • 87 boater // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    The true faith podcast is a decent listen for a bit of light banter. The I wish I was a geordie podcast gives a tactical/sports psychology insight which is genuinely fresh. Check it out – if you’re interested in elevating your head slightly above the ‘Williamson/Jonas/Shola are shite & Pardew is tactically inep’t insanity circles – which albeit rules out 85% of the people on here.

  • 88 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:18 PM


    Careful with the HBA abuse, it’s sacrilege don’t you know? :P the little I’ve seen of him he looks neat and tidy with a ball at his feet, if we sign him we’ll have him tracking back in no time ;) haha


    Keep an eye out for him, if you notice new usernames who seem to have an agenda against regular posters, it’s usually a tell tale sign, which is why I think Felipe is another one of his creations.

    I will certainly be making an appearance at a meeting or two or three, especially if there is the promise of debate and pints haha

  • 89 Black and White with an army lol // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    Final position in league = 17th
    Number of points in league = 30-35
    League Cup round = knocked out 1st game
    FA Cup round = as above
    Number of 1st team signings this season = 0
    Number of 1st team leaving this season = 3 ( Cabaye, HBA & Santon )
    Top goal scorer = Sissoko
    Number of goals for top goal scorer = 7
    Month that AP is sacked (or not) December
    New manager if AP is sacked = JFK ( obviously )

  • 90 fatman // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:23 PM

    I think we will get hammered 6-1 or 7-0 and I’m usually spot on or a mile off just hope it the latter as i think we will have a repeat of the last 3 home games, i just see a rabbit in the head lights getting run over again and again and not moving, i think Pardew suffers from stage fright, and cant react, his game plan is always find a place for Jonas and bring on shola, if that don’t work we are screwed. unless we can find something that’s not shown so far we could have an awful time ahead, i just cant see goals in the squad, take away bars goals last season and we would be in the championship now, I’m worried we have a good team without the goals, and cant defend for our lives, we bring in what seems good players and within half a dozen games they become poor, sadly our manager’s fault as i would bet the coaching is done to his instructions, the fact that one of the coaches worked under bobby and we were one of the fittest teams in the league, tells me its down to Pardew.

  • 91 toon kk // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    I have to admit I’m very frustrated by the way things are going at Newcastle. We are a joke, people who are happy can’t want much.
    Mind it’s getting to the stage I couldn’t give a f..k what MA does.

  • 92 Jail for Ashley // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    You ae determined to have us,along with a few others labelled as a mid table club, I have posted some stats that prove very differently,although we aren’t a ‘top’ club we are certainly better than the mid table you have us painted as.

  • 93 Jail for Ashley // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    Ruddy, do you suspect that the new user name has an L in it ?

  • 94 Blofal // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    I just watched the highlights of Bayern Vs Frankfurt and my god Bayern look lethal going forward. Frankfurts keeper Kevin Trapp did an amazing job keeping it 1 – 0.

  • 95 Black and White with an army lol // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:28 PM


    iv’e said 8-0 to City and i’ll stick by it

  • 96 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:29 PM


    Indeed I do, suspect that it begins with F as well.

  • 97 MacToon // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    I did have my suspicions that 1 or 2 were also his but it’s important not to fall into a trap of accusing without too much to go on. Noticed they have all disappeared from the blog now.

    I think Palace have done ok against Spurs.

    Not sure when the next fansutd meet will be but it’ll probably be electing someone to sit on the fans forum at the club. “We” have a few things planned, if you’re on FB and want to join in add Nufc Maoc and don’t be shy lol, introduce yourself ha ha.

  • 98 bills-son // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:33 PM


    Answering your questions might change according to any signings we may make.

    As we stand I don’t see us finishing in the top 8. With 2/3 signings 6-8th might be the best we can achieve.

  • 99 colwell // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    Worldwide Transfers ?@WwTransfers 46m
    Roma’s Pablo Osvaldo could join Southampton very soon. He has agreed personal terms. [@dimarzio] #ASR #SaintsFC

    Wow Saints making big moves this summer.

  • 100 Tommyy // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    We missed a trick in not bringing in Berbatov last year. If
    Fulham got him, we could have.

  • 101 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:38 PM


    Ed’s taken a harder line on anyone using multiple accounts. I know we need to be careful we don’t conduct witch hunts and drive decent people off the blog with false accusations, but the best way is simply asking Ed to check them out, he can check the IP addresses.

    Well I think I’m on the mailing list of NUFCFansUtd because I was e-mailed the minutes from the last meeting. I don’t use FB strangely enough haha

  • 102 Tommyy // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    And Soldado gets his first of the season. Lots of penalties this weekend.

  • 103 Green1607 // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    So it looks like we will win the financial fair play award :P

  • 104 fatman // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    hope you don’t think its me as i changed user name because i don’t want the wife finding out i still read this site as she banned me because some users were winding me up and she was worried what i might do, i,m going into hospital in September for a major op with a 50% chance of survival, so its not wise to get too deep into football, i will still be at the hull game, even though everyone says its not possible.

  • 105 jazzyp // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    Im glad to see you have such high hopes for this year !!

  • 106 Tommyy // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    Crystal Palace are definite for relegation for me. No quality in that team at all. Really struggling.

  • 107 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:44 PM


    Don’t worry lad, I don’t think it’s you, I’m going to drop it now anyway as I think Ed’s weeded out the multiple accounts pretty well.

    Hope all goes well for you by the way, sounds like a pretty big op, there’s nothing more important than you’re health at the end of the day, people may think football is a case of life and death, but it’s really not.

  • 108 keeganjr // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    how mutch will micah ricards cost?? i really like that guy..

  • 109 bobby vee // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    See that the former St James’ Park gates have now been
    installed, unfortunately if you were to open them you would
    walk “Smack Bang” into the perimeter wall on Barrack Road. The powers that be must have been up all night
    thinking of that location. Then again, like the club owner
    and Management they will lead you to nowhere. Keep
    whatever faith you may have left! HTL.

  • 110 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    Right chaps, I’m off for a while, I’m sure you’ll all be glad to hear haha

    All the best!

  • 111 MacToon // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    OK Ruddy, glad Ed has taken it seriously but wish he’d do something about the crass advertising too. It’s a bit russian roulette now refreshing or going onto a new topic incase there’s something trying to download onto the pc!
    Mail when you get to town and we’ll let you know if there’s any other meetings arranged if you’re interested, you too J4A and yes, they all tend to be based around beer for some reason!!! ;-)

  • 112 Jail for Ashley // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    As I raised the point of asking who from the club will be letting us know what is happening as far as progress was concerned,and I was told Lee Charnley would be seen soon in the media,I want to ask whats happening with that,so keep us posted and hopefully I’m home.

  • 113 keeganjr // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    Palace is shite and are going down, easy. Hope youre op goes well ed, love from norway

  • 114 bills-son // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    My team to play City would be (if all fit),

    Santon – Taylor – Colo – Mbiwa
    Tiote – Guti
    Sissoko – Cabaye – HBA

    That 4231 imo is the best way to get our best 11 playing to their strengths.

    For me, some of Guti’s best periods last season were in the DM position where his drop in pace isn’t as important but his workrate and covering more than makes up for it. I also think Tiote needs a defensive partner alongside to help protect the defence.

    RB for me is undoubtedly where Santon should be and I could see him and Sissoko and Mbiwa and HBA working really well together on the flanks. Cabaye in CM and released from defensive duties allows him to get forward more and with HBA and Sissoko + Cisse up front we have good attacking potential.

    I can’t see a 442 or 443 that works as well with the players we have.

  • 115 Tommyy // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    Wish we’d gone for Capoue rather than Sissoko. He’s everything Sissoko isn’t. Calm, collected, smart on the ball, composed running and passing.

  • 116 bills-son // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    On my team above,

    When Remy is fit I’d play him instead of Cisse – he has more pace, can create his own chances and is a better target man.

  • 117 Tommyy // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    Bills – I’d swap Guti and Sissoko and then drop Guti for Gouffran. Gouffran has good workrate but actually has a bit of pace and end product. I’d also like Sissoko to stick to DM and let Cabaye roam. He annoys the hell out of me when he runs forward and loses it.

  • 118 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:58 PM


    In terms of the first team, you’re right, we have lost 3, but that wasn’t the spirit of my question. If you look at transfers alone then we have lost 3 players that really would have been back-up only and we would not have been happy if we had signed those players this summer instead. So no great loss in my opinion. Several clubs have only 2 first team goalies and relying on either a youth team goalie or an emergency loan for the 3rd. We have plenty of cover for Simpson and Perch.

    In terms of the first team, Dummett is an addition. That doesn’t affect judgement if our failure to date to bring in another striker as a transfer, but it is relevant when comparing our first team squads.

    Campbell is only on loan for a month, so he could come back into the squad if we don’t sign that striker. I’d rather he stayed on loan for the season too though, assuming we sign that striker!

  • 119 MacToon // Aug 18, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    No problem jail. I will post on here when I know the next FansUTD meet is and mail us if you want to join in on one of our meetings, I have a feeling things might kick off after the transfer window closes but maybe if we have some valuable wins under our belt everything might calm down again…. who knows!

  • 120 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:00 PM


    That’s the idea of predictions mate! Thought we could get people on record! Huge difference in opinions already!

  • 121 MacToon // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    Forgot to say we’re going to Harper’s testimonial so we will be meeting for a drink before and more than likely afterwards too ha ha ;-)

  • 122 Greebol1892 // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Palace will struggle on this showing. Tottenham overrated – shoddy at the back against a powderpuff attack. Walker’s all over the place and thinks he’s a better player than he actually is…. a liability!

  • 123 fatman // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    on a lighter note Harper’s testimonial is the day after my operation and i will no doubt miss it but i will make a donation to his three chosen charity’s prior to the 10th just in case I’m not able to do it later but i will show my appreciation of him for his 20 years. its easy for anyone not able to go to follow my example.

  • 124 Blofal // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    No use going defensive against City. If you just sit back and let them take shots at you they have the talent to eventually nail a couple. My team would be as below and if we got slaughtered well at least we did it trying to win.

    Debuchy – Saylor – Colo – Mbiwa
    Ben Arfa—–Marveaux——Goofy

  • 125 MacToon // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    Good luck fatman by the way and I agree about harper. It was a fight to get the testimonial sorted and NufcFansUTD had a big part in getting it organised.

  • 126 jazzyp // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    Fatman-well said sir. Hope the op goes well for you mate.

  • 127 keeganjr // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    OMG DEFOE… Should have scored there

  • 128 jazzyp // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    Mactoon-Afternoon bud
    What do you make of takeover rumours floating around mate !!

  • 129 fatman // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    Steve Harper’s testimonial Wednesday 11th September (7pm) with proceeds going to benefit three local charities: The Great North Children’s Hospital, Sir Bobby Robson Foundation and the Newcastle United Foundation. go or give the cash he gave 20 years to the club whats a £10

  • 130 toon kk // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    We’ll be ripped apart by City tomorrow night.
    We should try and sign Defoe quality and pace something we need.

  • 131 gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola) // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    yeah my prediction city 4 nufc 0…

    if its more than that we are going down for sure… our morale will be smashed….I really do hope Ash is selling up….hence not buying any players…another disastrous window for us yet again…

  • 132 Indian Magpie // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    Jonathan Williams of Crystal palace, 19, Looked good. will hughes must be some player, if he is better than him.

  • 133 Indian Magpie // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:30 PM

    My prediction for tommorow

    MCity 3 Nufc 1

  • 134 jazzyp // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    Im gonna throw a curve ball on this blog and show some optimism
    1-2 to the TOON-there said it !!

  • 135 ~Joke-innear~ // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    To those thinking we have had the worst transfer window of all teams this season, I beg to differ.

    Arsenal have done far worse, considering how much they have boasted about having a transfer war chest of 70million and only bringing in a 20 yr old free transfer as well as letting 17 players leave.

    At least we knew before the window started that there was no chance Newcastle would spend 10+million, and with the exception of Perch, we have kept onto our ‘best’ players.

  • 136 mattnufc // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    4-1 not to the Toon.

  • 137 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:35 PM

    Anyone else care to predict:
    Final position in league
    Number of points in league
    League Cup round
    FA Cup round
    Number of 1st team signings this season (currently 1 – Remy)
    Number of 1st team leaving this season (currently 1 – Perch. Harper and Simpson left when contracts expired)
    Top goal scorer
    Number of goals for top goal scorer
    Month that AP is sacked (or not)
    New manager if AP is sacked

  • 138 ilovetoon8788 // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    Man city 3 – 0 Newcastle

  • 139 ~Joke-innear~ // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    I’d put money on this season being Wengers last season in charge of Arsenal.

  • 140 toon kk // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    I reckon its mainly down to MA not JK transfers haven’t come in I bet any good player we want Mashley won’t pay his wage demands then the deal stalls.

  • 141 Indian Magpie // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    Let me try

    Anyone else care to predict:
    Final position in league – 20th (Relegated by week 34)
    Number of points in league – (32)
    League Cup round – Quarters
    FA Cup round – Quarters
    Number of 1st team signings this season (currently 1 – Remy) – Status Quo
    Number of 1st team leaving this season (currently 1 – Perch. Harper and Simpson left when contracts expired) -Cabaye
    Top goal scorer – Cisse
    Number of goals for top goal scorer 9/10
    Month that AP is sacked (or not) – Not Sacked
    New manager if AP is sacked – Poyet likely/JFK possible/An obscure 1 -probable

  • 142 ~Joke-innear~ // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    Newcastle to win 1-nil

    Shola to score within the last 10 minutes from a Yohan Cabaye through ball.

  • 143 JAMSHA // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    10-1 to man city

  • 144 jazzyp // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    Jesus lads are we giving up already-look what villa did yesterday. No body predicted that.

  • 145 MacToon // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    jazzyp, I’d love Ashley to go as it seems clear to me his heart isn’t really in the club or the area but I don’t think these latest reports are true.
    I have heard that there has been some interest but yet again Ashley’s holding out for more money.

  • 146 MrMojoRisin76 // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    I just hope the players come out with the exact opposite attitude of most of the fans on here.

  • 147 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:44 PM


    True, but Villa have been much more active in the transfer window, have had a much more productive pre-season and are going in with high morale.

    None of which could be said for us.

  • 148 jazzyp // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    I just cant let it go that Ashley missed a big opportunity to go somewhere with the club 2 seasons ago.
    That was the time to push the club forward, Instead letting it flounder around the bottom of the PL.

  • 149 Papiss9 // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    Our squad is among the 10 best in the league, no doubt. it’s not small.. My prediction is this season will be a lot better than last, and we will end up at 8th.

    Ok, Pardew is not the best manager in the league, but not the worst either. Give him 10 games. We are practically injuryfree, no EL-games.. There is no excuses.. If we play crap football the first 10 games without showing good attacking football with a plan, he has to go.

    The squad is one of the best in the last 20 years.

  • 150 mattnufc // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    Final position in league: 12
    Number of points in league: 49
    League Cup round: Quarter Final
    FA Cup round: 5th
    Number of 1st team signings this season (currently 1 – Remy): 2
    Number of 1st team leaving this season (currently 1 – Perch. Harper and Simpson left when contracts expired): 1
    Top goal scorer: Cisse
    Number of goals for top goal scorer: 12
    Month that AP is sacked (or not): n/a
    New manager if AP is sacked: n/a
    Title winners: Man City
    Teams Relegated: Cardiff, Hull, Fulham

  • 151 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    Final position in league – 8th
    Number of points in league – 56
    League Cup round – SF
    FA Cup round – 5th rd
    Number of 1st team signings this season (currently 1 – Remy) – 3 (1 more in summer, 1 in Jan)
    Number of 1st team leaving this season (currently 1 – Perch. Harper and Simpson left when contracts expired) – 2 (1 more in Jan)
    Top goal scorer – Cisse
    Number of goals for top goal scorer – 15
    Month that AP is sacked (or not) – not
    New manager if AP is sacked – Clark

  • 152 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:51 PM


    Relegated by game 34? Seriously?!

    All will be recorded and plaudits awarded at the end of the season…

  • 153 mattnufc // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    I think the starting eleven is very strong, but the squad is weak: Very little quality cover for wingers and strikers especially, as well as to some extent the entire defense.

  • 154 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:51 PM


    Can I ask you how you think we will have a good run in the league cup on top of finishing 8th. We’ve shown last season that we cannot cope with added fixtures that additional competitions bring, so where is this optimism coming from?

    Once again, not challenging your opinion, just asking clarification.

  • 155 jazzyp // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    I agree with what you say bud but come on. The season hasn’t even started and we are to some degree giving up already.
    Yeah the Regime disgusts me for how they are running this club. And the less said about Pardew the better, But we have a cracking squad of players who I believe on there day are more than a match for most PL teams.

  • 156 Indian Magpie // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:53 PM


    I am depressed.

  • 157 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:53 PM


    Stop being ridiculous, we will not finish 20th, and even if we were 20th and looking like getting relegated. Pardew would certainly get sacked.

  • 158 MacToon // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Jazz, exactly. Was obviously a time to kick on but I believe last summer Ashley clearly showed his intention, stay in the prem and advertise his main business concern and again January gone when we were in trouble and he reacted as to keep us where the money is…. mid table team with huge TV exposure.
    I just read that last season the game against the Mancs was the 4th biggest viewed game of the season. That unfortunately is where Ashley’s ambitions are.
    Even if we made Champions league the club are then restricted to what is advertised at the club so although Rangers looks like a steal for Ashley, I’m not all that convinced he wants them instead of us. It suits him atm because he has both clubs advertising his tat shop ;-)

  • 159 toon kk // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    We were sh.t last season and haven’t strengthened, not surprising people haven’t much hope. But let’s hope we can play better this season or we’ll be in a dog fight at the wrong end of the table.

  • 160 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:56 PM


    I’m not giving up on our season before it’s begun, but we need to be realistic. We’ve got a good starting XI, one of the best we’ve had in recent years. but our squad as a whole is pretty weak and cannot cope with injuries, our manager misuses the players we do have and we are constantly undermined off the field by our owner and now we’ve the added disaster of JFK.

    I understand why some people are worried about Man City, but do think we will safely see ourselves finish between 10th and 14th, which doesn’t fill me with hope, it’s not me giving up, it’s just realistically looking at what we are probably capable of.

  • 161 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:57 PM


    We have a bigger squad than last season. We were seriously light until Jan when we had a net 4 extra players. Forget Harper for now, we’re at worst 3 up compared to the start of last season (lost Perch and Simpson but gained Remy).

    The Frenchies have 6 months in the PL and a pre-season and some young players look to be breaking into the 1st team.

    Plus, I can’t see us getting as many injuries to key players this season.

  • 162 Papiss9 // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:59 PM


    I agree that we need to strengthen that area, but if we do get in a quality winger we look very dangerous.

    Players in the positions is Cisse, Remy, HBA, Marvaux, Jonas, Shola, Obertan, Sammy. We got the numbers, but for me Cisse, Remy, HBA, gouffran and Marv is the only one whos good enough.. maybe sammy this year (we’ll see)

  • 163 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    Interestingly enough, Kevin de Bruyne starts for Chelsea today. Heard good things about this young man, he’s obviously impressed Mourinho too.

  • 164 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    Off out for a bit…will enjoy reading and recording more answers to those questions…

    Indian – now is the time to change your mind. Can’t do it after tomorrow! :-)

    And Ruddy is right, Pardew would be sacked pretty early on if we were looking like finishing bottom!

  • 165 jazzyp // Aug 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    Toon kk
    We were garbage last year mate. Im ashamed to say I stopped going after the Scumderland game as many fans that I Regular sit with did. But apart from Ba who has proven to be a massive loss it is the same team that came 5th the season before.
    I know most fans are not expecting much this season but I want to give the lads a chance. Hopefully buddy they will Make us proud again.
    Heres hoping !!

  • 166 Blofal // Aug 18, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    What scares me is that last season quite a few of the goals we scored were the result of deflections that caught the keeper out of position.

  • 167 jazzyp // Aug 18, 2013 at 4:10 PM

    I couldn’t agree more with ya pal and my optimism has waivered many times over the last couple of months.
    Why Kinnear has been bought back is anyones guess, And what Ashley’s intentions are is really unknown to a degree. Personally I hope he does sell up and somebody comes in with a bit of ambition to take this club forward, And put us back where we belong mate

  • 168 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    Hull struggling big time here early doors, should be 1-0 down, Chelsea penalty, and must say the AM 3 of Oscar de Bruyne and Hazard looks menacing.

  • 169 MacToon // Aug 18, 2013 at 4:15 PM

    Yeah Hull are struggling but I think a few teams will against Chelsea this season. They (Chelsea) have been the best team I’ve seen this weekend.

  • 170 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 4:16 PM


    The best we can hope for for the future of NUFC is that we see a takeover some time soon, we’d struggle to find an owner as stifling and lacking ambition as Mike Ashley.

    Chelsea playing some blinding stuff, 1-0 up already, could be a massacre here.

  • 171 2_goal_tino // Aug 18, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    De Bruyne’s debut is well overdue. He’s dictating play at the moment. In the space of a year Chelsea have transformed from an ageing team to a very young one. Think van Ginkel will be a revelation this season as well, thought we should’ve gone for him at the start of the window, he will be a top top player.

  • 172 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    Torres playing really well too, hold up play is excellent. He is no longer the 20+ a season striker he once was but he will be key to this Chelsea side this season I feel.

    Lampard scores a cracking free kick, this will be 4/5/6, all depends on Chelsea really.

  • 173 TimKrulFan // Aug 18, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    What will be pardews excuse tomorrow?

  • 174 ochytoon // Aug 18, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    We couldn’t get the ball over the line

  • 175 tomjlaws // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    Where is everyone gettin this takeover rumours from … I haven’t seen anything as for hull Chelsea I can really see hull struggle this season no cutting edge same with palace! As for us I can see man c scorin at least 4 tomorrow just hoping we totally fluke it somehow

    I hope our team tomorrow is
    —-Ben arfa——-cabaye———-santon

  • 176 bills-son // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:08 PM


    If Pardew says City where better than us, what would your opinion be on that ‘excuse’?

  • 177 luke.r // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    Torres hasn’t been that 20+ striker in a long time.

    People say hes gone crap because he hasn’t been scoring but if you watched him last season, you’d know he became a striker that plays the midfield in and lets them score goals. He is still a class striker in my opinion.

  • 178 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:18 PM


    The problem with Pardew is that he very rarely just comes out with the truth that we were poor or the other team was better, there always seems to be an excuse of sorts. Either we were tired, not up to full fitness, young players etc etc

    It would be refreshing if he did in fact come out and say “we weren’t good enough today” or “we were beaten by a better team” but this rarely seems to be the case.

  • 179 kevymartins // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    @Luke r Imo Demba Ba is twice the player as him. Only thing keeping him in that team and Ba on the bench is his big name and of course Mourinho said Ba ain’t his type of player.

  • 180 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:23 PM


    Ba may be a more clinical striker, but Torres is more effective for the operation of the Chelsea team as a whole. Torres’ hold up play is excellent, look at how deep he comes in order to bring others in play, how could he be scoring on a regular basis when he collects the ball outside the box more often than inside it.

  • 181 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:23 PM

    If we are going to be tight, we should sell Willo and use the money to get Rod Fanni on loan as back up. Fanni can fill in at right and centre back.

  • 182 kevymartins // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:23 PM

    I would take Ba back in a heartbeat, he is what you call an all round player. Big guy can hold the ball up or play on the last man can head is strong and quick. If chelsea are getting rid I would hope we were his first choice.

  • 183 toonarmy1985 // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

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  • 184 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    I’d take Demba Ba back. Great player.

  • 185 luke.r // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:28 PM


    as far as goal scoring is concerned, Demba is better. He just knows where the goal is and can put it away.

    But Chelsea have a midfield full of players how can put the ball in the back of the net. What torres does, and does a whole lot better than Ba is bring those players into game. His passing and vision is excellent and he creates a lot for the team.

    He is brilliant and underestimated as far as I can see it.

    Also to whoever said, whats Pardew’s excuse for tomorrow night…. We are playing City… If we lose 1-0 away against a team that has a very real chance of winning the prem, 1-0 isn’t a bad result at all!

  • 186 kevymartins // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    I think it’s down to himself though Jose made it clear he doesn’t wan’t him so he can either rott on there bench collecting his big wage for the rest of his contract his career will near be over at the end of that or he could could back to us take the pay cut and become a hero again.

  • 187 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM

    Ba will take the money and gladly sit on the bench, and I for one think that is befitting of him.

  • 188 kevymartins // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    It’s gona be hard tomorrow night. Man city away with all their new signings. Jesus Navas will tear us a new 1 and if Santon is injured then god help us.

  • 189 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    I think it’s a case of if Santon is playing God help us. He’s an attacking LB, but defensively is dreadful, positioning is very poor etc so I can’t see how Dummett would fare any worse. Navas will be a handful for even the best LB in the league, something neither Santon or Dummett are.

    By the way, why is Haidara below Dummett in the pecking order?

  • 190 noladonna // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    My prediction for tomorrow’s game

    Man city 1-3 Newcastle united

    Negredo Ben arfa

    Get your money on it lads big upset on Monday night football

  • 191 SeanNufc87 // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    I want all nine points from the first three!

    Come on the Toon!

  • 192 kevymartins // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    Lukaku, what a player.

    My prediction 1-1 Jovetic, Cisse.

  • 193 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    Well far be it of me to tell the optimists they’re wrong ;) haha

  • 194 jazzyp // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    now that’s what I like to see mate-Lets get behind the team for tomorrow night lads and forget about all the Negatives that Mashley and co bring to this forum

  • 195 jazzyp // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    For once pal that’s all we ask have a bit of faith !!

  • 196 kevymartins // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    If we sign a player like Gomis it will make some difference to our squad. Look at Bony he’s looking good for Swansea. I reckon he will get 15-20 goals this season.

  • 197 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:46 PM


    Can’t do it lad, I’ll be going in hoping for an upset, but expecting a thrashing. Pessimistic realism is my bread and butter unfortunately.

  • 198 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    Given that Colo has pretty much 1 year left with us as next summer I’m pretty sure he’ll definitely look to move on, does anyone else think that it would have been wise to get his replacement in now rather than when he leaves?

  • 199 stuart no9 // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    We need to get our club back.! Ashley has stormed into the north east , mugged 52000 + people and stole the one thing that Geordies live and work for – that feeling of absolute excitement on a Saturday or any other day the black and white stripes take to the field. Someone mentioned ‘nufc. Are dead , looking BA k to how it was before Ashley arrived – he is not far wrong . Can anyone really say they are excited about the coming season ? I’m not , that spark has gone , Ashley has ripped the soul out of nufc , without sole there is no life . We are Only making up the numbers for top clubs to accumulate points to see who will be crowned champions come may .we need Shley out – we need our club back we need to demonstrate and fight the regime to get back what is morally ours ,

  • 200 stuart no9 // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    * looking back to how it was- not BA k haha

  • 201 ToonDownSouth // Aug 18, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    Anyone else noticed that we always have a hard opening game?

    2008/2009 Manchester United
    2009/2010 West Brom (Favorites for the Championship)
    2010/2011 Manchester United
    2011/2012 Arsenal
    2012/2013 Tottenham

    Of course, these days every game is a hard game for us.

  • 202 Tommyy // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    Ruddy – Depends greatly on whether said replacement would be happy sitting on the bench for a year without the guarantee that Colo will indeed leave. If that were not an issue, I’d say yes we should have. We need all the players we can get.

  • 203 gonufc (Release the Hatem Bomb) // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    @Kets – Did you know Fanni’s full name on his passport is “Rod Dodgi Fanni”?

    I’m not even making it up.

  • 204 jazzyp // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    I genuinely am bud, Call it dumb founded loyalty or whatever people want to call it.
    I agree Mashley has sucked the life out of Nufc and the regime has bought nothing but misery. But what is Newcastle without the fans. I guarantee we will be here when Ashley has long gone and if any thing the players need us more than ever.

  • 205 Tommyy // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    TDS – Exactly, it’s the biggest cliche in the football universe ‘We always knew it was going to be a tough game today’ and words to that effect.

  • 206 Ben3arfa // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    Man city 6 NUFC 0

  • 207 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:10 PM


    Well I’d say that we should be signing a replacement that is potentially better than Colo, someone who would push him for a starting place in the side, and with correct rotation, and good man management we could keep all players happy. After all, even if Colo doesn’t leave next summer, he still is getting on a bit.

    You can never have a shortage of quality players in my opinion.

  • 208 Jail for Ashley // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:12 PM

    jazzyp // Aug 18, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    I just cant let it go that Ashley missed a big opportunity to go somewhere with the club 2 seasons ago.
    That was the time to push the club forward, Instead letting it flounder around the bottom of the PL”
    That’s exactly how I feel.
    I can honestly say that this is the season I have least looked forward to in recent memory,we’re starting with exactly the same team that very,very nearly got relegated with exactly the same manager, ok the French lads have had time together,they’d had three months together 90 minutes before that embarassment by Lpool
    and as for pre season, as the lads at pointed out Pardew has complained that the Portugese teams don’t give you that intensity for pre season games,so we played three of them, luckily second rate SPL teams are renowned for their high tempo and class then.

  • 209 LGFUAD21 // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    Ash out and jackbutler up near the top.

    If pardew gets the chop as much as ‘d love Poyet I can’t see it. He is exactly what we need and he’d almost certainly take the job but Ashley will only hire someone that won’t challenge him on the way he runs us. It’ll be an English ,anger that has been knocking around for years with a mediocre career.

    Poyet is too outspoken he’d get the sack for criticising the board after a week.

    The quid says we’ll end up with McLeish or someone like that.

  • 210 Tommyy // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    Ruddy – No doubt, but we know Pardew likes his undroppables, I couldn’t see a new player ousting Colo unless he was injured or said player was something special. But I agree, I’d have liked to see us bring them in this window.

  • 211 Tommyy // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    God I hate playing on a Monday night. I just pray we put in a good performance seeing as we’re live on air to the entire world.

  • 212 gaz 44 // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    Tuesday we will b bottom of league

  • 213 stuart no9 // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    gaz 44– look on the positive side- on tuesday we will be bottom but safe in the knowledge it cant get worse , and only one way to go from there. there, hows that for positivity ?

  • 214 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    God Barcelona are just a wonderful team to watch. 26mins in and they’re 4-0 up, playing football the right way.

    If only eh? ;)

  • 215 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    So who did we sign while I was gone? ;-)

  • 216 josh // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:45 PM

    Hi, I’m the poster ben3arfa. I’m so negative I found a cure for HIV. I had fun once too, I fkin hated it. True story.

  • 217 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:47 PM

    6-0 up before half time, and this is without Iniesta, without Alba and without Neymar. Frightening.

  • 218 luke.r // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    My friend has a reliable friend..

    He says that united and Chelsea have struck a deal that is 40 mil and Lukaku for Rooney.

    Now I wont believe it til I see it but my friend believes it as everything his friend has said in the past has been true.

    Whos knows!!!

  • 219 scout // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    If we sit back tomorrow well get a right spanking. Please try and keep the ball. Santon, if you see this let that navas know its big school. Also strikers need to help the midfield lads close down as quick as possible.
    No excuses, it’s time to prove ourselves tomorrow.

  • 220 scout // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    Can’t believe that 40 mill and lukaku, it’s like paying 50 odd million for Rooney. You could have Suarez for that

  • 221 luke.r // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    Well thats what I said. With one year left on his contract Rooney isn’t worth 40 mill but thats the rumour I’ve heard anyway and like I said i dont believe it yet.

  • 222 stuart no9 // Aug 18, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    luke — naaa- i think your mate has gone a tad over the top with that one,– far farrrrrrr too much.

  • 223 luke.r // Aug 18, 2013 at 7:01 PM


    Well in the past apparently he’s been reliable and hes got good connections.

    But yeah it sounds far too outlandish for my liking, I’m just saying what I’ve heard.

  • 224 Belfast // Aug 18, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    Think there’s no chance of Rooney going to Chelsea like. Arsenal maybe, but not Chelsea.

  • 225 fatman // Aug 18, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    WE also have that obnoxious pr*k Andre Marriner as ref, so it could be worse than anyone expects.

  • 226 gaz 44 // Aug 18, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    I like your thinking, the only way is up,

  • 227 89Norcal // Aug 18, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    Always figured Chelsea were going to go through with Falcao now that he wants out, why bother with Rooney now.

    In semi-related news; Fabregas is having an impeccable game even if it’s vs. Levante. Doubt he’ll go anywhere now.

  • 228 Ashton // Aug 18, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    nut meg

    He is very good. Today against Utrecht he created a lot of clear cut chances. His passing was superb and could’ve had 5-6 assists if it wasn’t for Castaignos’ awful finishing (he scored twice though). I like him but he is a less talented HBA for me. Everything he does HBA does better (except for set pieces, maybe) and they are very similar in a sense that they are both left footed right wingers. So we don’t really need him as long as we have a fit HBA in our team.

  • 229 Belfast // Aug 18, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    They don’t even need a striker in my opinion. They only play with one up front.

    It’s Man United v Chelsea next Monday night. So if they’re going to sell to Chelsea it will probably be after that game. I’d be shocked if they sold him to Chelsea like.

  • 230 luke.r // Aug 18, 2013 at 7:18 PM


    Jose is a massive fan of Rooney though. If he was to go for anyone, I can see him prefering Rooney.

    As for Cesc, I can see Xachi retiring soon and they’ll need Cesc to replace him. And I cant see Cesc going to anyone but Arsenal in the prem.

  • 231 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 18, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    Hows Raylor getting on? We missed him last season.

  • 232 puretoon // Aug 18, 2013 at 7:40 PM

    Jazzyp@ 204. That’s the trouble with all supporters: keep on going to matches for the sake of the lads! we’ve got to get rid of this blind faith stance and assert ourselves! by simply blindly following the team each home game (and some away) we’re putting money into Ashley pocket-no way. Put blind faith aside for once as the team know we support them and proest.

  • 233 puretoon // Aug 18, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    And for those who are thinking that if Pardew walks Gus Poyet will come in, no he will not. He’ll not work under Cashley. The guy who will jump into the position is already here-Kinnear- and he’s waiting in the wings folks……..

  • 234 TheMags // Aug 18, 2013 at 8:47 PM


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