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Who Was Newcastle’s Best Player At The Etihad?

11:34 pm, Monday, August 19th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 198 Comments

There were not too many good performances from Newcastle players tonight, but let us know who you think played best for Newcastle in the 4-0 defeat at Manchester City.

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198 responses so far ↓

  • 1 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    C’mon Ed your just rubbing it in now!!!

  • 2 Tino asprilla // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    Between krul mbiwa and hba for me

  • 3 Black and White with an army lol // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    Krull by a mile

  • 4 JackButler // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    Without Krul it would have been double figures

  • 5 reccerobbo // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    Not going to entertain that question

  • 6 SeanNufc87 // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    Tds

    Completely different, they had debt up to their eyeballs and needed to cash out, ashley made over 200m extra profit this year.

    Anyway im off ill no doubt speak to you all tomorrow.

  • 7 Sazzer // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    Carroll bid launched on Saturday…

  • 8 Black and White with an army lol // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    hey guys is it true that MA turned down a 350 million bid of some 1 wanting to buy club and when they offered 350 million he said he wanted 400 million?

  • 9 wolfshead@toon // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    zero

    i wonder how many fans would trade a season in the championship to get rid of ashley nice idea

  • 10 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    Sean
    How can fans go and sing, Ashley has broken up all the singing sections and turned SJP into a morgue

  • 11 toonking // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    timkrulfan

    so the whan the new manager gets told he is not allowed to choose his players that is left to joker and aslong as the starting 11 are eperieced enough he has to use youngsters or cheap obatan type players and finally that if cashley wants to sell a player he can the manager will still accept the job.
    your having a laugh we instead will get that boss of Blackburn last year or joke Kinnear.

  • 12 ToonDownSouth // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    Honestly, I never want to see Steven Taylor in a Newcastle shirt again.

    And if we had a different manager, that would probably be the case. No doubt that Pardew will have him back in 3 games.

  • 13 West Lancs Geordie // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    Tim Krul was probably the best player 2nite & he conceded 4 goals but really could & should have been many many more. The rest were gutless, no passion showed. One shot on target all night – Tiote from about 40 yds. Agree with JB need Ince & McCarthy from Cabs money plus maybe Eriksen but just won’t happen. Loan players at best but need extra cover in all areas & players prepared to battle for the cause

  • 14 jimmysmith // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:42 PM

    not collo, jeez the last goal was quite shocking, City are a bought team, its financial doping, great players, great to watch, but quite possibly causing irreparable harm to the game. We have become whipping boys, but Jesus the money being spent is almost morally bankrupt.

  • 15 Black and White with an army lol // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    ToonDownSouth

    honestly mate i think AP will appeal against it

  • 16 Griff-toon // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    Debuchy was absolutely crap!!! And throwing the ball way for his yellow shows what a bad professional he is. Didnt expect a win but every player looked sad and had no joy for starting the premier league again. I was realy looking forward to a positive display but my team has given me a sour taste. Shame on you.

  • 17 ToonDownSouth // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    Sean

    You don’t think Ashley would sell if a good offer came in? Because that’s contrary to the message that he has been putting out for years now. They’ve always said that if a good offer comes in, the club would be sold.

    And Ashley made £200m profit? Eh? I assume you mean from Sports Direct, not Newcastle? :/

  • 18 Thump // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    It was nice to see Dummett getting a run, despite the circumstances. He didn’t do anything particularly amazing but he was very, very tidy.

  • 19 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    TDS
    Completely agree, can’t say it enough, Steven Taylor should be nowhere near our team let alone our starting 11
    The blokes an embarrassment who plays up to the local hero tag

  • 20 West Lancs Geordie // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:44 PM

    The voting seems to say everything. Best get in a bloody good joiner at the weekend to board up the goals

  • 21 JackButler // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    Lads, we all know that Saylor will be straight back into the starting 11 when his ban is up and so will Jonas when he’s fit again

  • 22 Toonacious T // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    Right lads. Had enough of some twats on here who continue to back this regime. They deserve what they are getting if they can’t see a problem with it. not going to read this blog until we sign a player on a permanent deal.

  • 23 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    How long ago that 5th place finish seems now :( .

    And with that I will say goodnight chaps . Maybe I can have a nice dream of supporting NUFC being owned by a mega rich oil sheikh ;) . P.S FCUK Ashley, Kinnear & Pardew .

  • 24 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    Thump
    I genuinely though pards after all his guff this pre season was going to pick players on form, but sadly no, dummett the only positive from pre season was dropped and there was Taylor bang in the middle, again, as always, no matter how sh1te

  • 25 ToonDownSouth // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    Thump

    Agree, hopefully his confidence won’t be absolutely crushed as we flounder around the foot of the table and drop out of the cups to league 2 teams this season.

    Hope he gets adequate game time – LB is actually a position we’re well stocked in, and I thought Haidara looked one of our best players last season.

  • 26 Schwefelberg // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    Ashley is our own Hernan Cortez. Expect the same results!

  • 27 West Lancs Geordie // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Saylor made a bad error of judgement 2nite which I’m sure he now regrets as naive but the lad is NUFC through & through. He always leads the lads to applaud the fans especially at away matches win,draw or lose but very injury prone. Hope this does not signal return of Willo the weak!

  • 28 JackButler // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Ashley will always sell if the money is right, he has no tie’s to this club or the region other than financial one’s, but finding anyone to meet his asking price is like trying to find rocking horse sh*t

  • 29 james589 // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    It’s 1 result, let’s not all jump on the ever-present Ashley out bandwagon just yet.

    His response to Arsenal’s bid was pretty good to be fair: “which part of him do you want?”

    My concern is I think Cabaye is seen not just by fans but also his fellow players as integral to the squad. If he leaves others may be headed for the exit too. We brought good, international standard footballers in on the premise of top 5 challenges and bigger and better things. Those footballers are not currently playing to their potential. Something needs to change but I’m not convinced it needs to be as drastic as ousting the owner, manager etc.

    Retaining Cabaye would send out a real message of intent and have a great effect on the squad. Selling him could be catastrophic in terms of ten ripple effect (and, let’s be honest, in terms of the lack of replacement).

  • 30 Tino asprilla // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    Thought jonas looked good tonight til he pulled up

  • 31 JackButler // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    james589

    A good response from Ashley to Arsenal would have been ‘Keep your money he’s not for sale’ but we all know that Cabaye will be off sooner rather than later, only question now is whether it’s to Arsenal, PSG or Man Utd

  • 32 West Lancs Geordie // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:52 PM

    Same as before Cabs sold for £20M .No immediate replacement. Make do with what we’ve got. Ash pockets £12M maybe spend £8M at Christmas when matters have become desperate.

  • 33 wolfshead@toon // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:52 PM

    james

    cant you see pards is being undermined at every turn if he had any integrity he would quit its becoming embarrasing now

  • 34 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:53 PM

    West lancs
    Leads the lads? How? He constantly puts the team under pressure, made an error? He makes that fcuking error over and over, every game, shirt pulling, handball’s etc, its a joke
    But it’s okay he stays and claps the fans who travel up and down the country to watch the tw@ pretend he’s a footballer

  • 35 toonking // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:53 PM

    TDS
    yet again but this is not pardews problem it is that fat bastard Ashley

    like I said to BPC about forwards in that he has no choice as he only has shola and cisse right now and shola would be bad to get started.

    who else does he have then that can replace saylor.

    we have got debuchy santon colo willo saylor raylor hadaira and mbiwa at the minute but santon injured raloyr injured hadaira I think is on loan willo will be not welcomed as a starter.
    so all we are left with is saylor colo debuchy and mbiwa
    as for dummett well that would have been stupidest o things to get starting him.
    why the f did w sell perch and simmo not replacing them

  • 36 Tino asprilla // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    Wolfshead
    absolutely agree

  • 37 james589 // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    West Lancs Geordie

    That wasn’t an error of judgement. It was downright stupid. And the worst thing is it’s not the first time I’ve seen him do something like that. I know every team has a player like that, close to the wire, but that was sheer lunacy and he made an already impossible task more difficult.

    The most disappointing thing or me tonight was the lack of discipline and the loss of control when the going got tough. Colo was the only one of the back four to keep his cool, Tioté and Sissoko both flew into too many tackles and too many players couldn’t hold their line/stick to their position. This left gaps which City all to easily exploited.

    Whatever happens before a game, it is the manager’s job to galvanise a squad and make necessary changes. Pardew blaming the result on the Cabaye situation is nothing short of cowardice in my view.

  • 38 Slatymag // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    Here’s a good deal – if PSG offer us £12m for Cabaye we’ll chuck in Dubuchy absolutely free.

    Time to try Santon on the right I reckon.

  • 39 stuart no9 // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    you cant just blame pardew for this league 3 side he has put together, Ashley – kinnear- pardew , look at those 3 names, 3 names that wouldnt know class if a big concrete slab fell from the sky with class written all over it, and hit them on the head, the 3 have to go, newcastle will not recover from this ,and if they do , it will be half a dozen games from now but they will be rooted to the bottom of the league and will be too late anyway,
    People who know football will probably know , tonight they have witnessed the worst team the prem has ever seen with the worst perfomance the prem has ever seen, tonight was ashleys night , his 5 year plan starting to take effect, the 5 years he has predicted it will take before nufc are the laughing stock of world football and not give us a sniff of a chance to to rectify it.
    Dont think because 52000 fans turn up at SJP for the next game it will make them play better – it wont, this performance has shaped us for the season- the long miserable season ahead,
    We were lucky tonight – it should have been 8 , if i was the man city manager i would be ripping into my team for wasting so many chances, luckily it wasnt man u or chelsea we were playing .They have to go. we must boycott . demonstrate , anything to get rid of these 3 coz that tonight was just not acceptable. BOYCOTT.

  • 40 Jackel001 // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    I’ve heard from a couple of people that Ashley wants to sell us to some Americans and he wants to buy rangers…Anyone else heard this?

  • 41 toonking // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    TDS
    who else can he play that will make you happy
    santon injured
    willo will not be accepted
    hadaira loaned
    raylor injured
    dummett could damage his confidence big time given the state we are right now.

    so all we have is colo mbiwa saylor and debuchy

  • 42 wynsleap // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    Wolfshead@toon @ – I’d trade in administration if I thought it would get rid of this parasite.
    Quite happy to start again with a decent owner who treats the fans with respect. Even if we are in League 3.
    At least there’d be some hope or light at the end of the tunnel. There is absolutely NO FUTURE with The Tight One.
    On another point – who voted for Debuchy and Saylor in this poll? Medication, nurse please.

  • 43 West Lancs Geordie // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    Cisse, Anita & Sammy nil points (votes) Bit like UK in Eurovision. Although Saylor got 5 votes & only played for 40 mins.

  • 44 JackButler // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    You know what, when Cabaye is sold I honestly hope that Ashley pockets the lot as the sooner he gets his money back to soon we will be to getting rid of him

  • 45 james589 // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    Wolfshead

    I don’t disagree with you. My concern is who is gong to fill his shoes if he were to resign. I don’t want Kinnear anywhere near our club let alone in the manager’s chair.

  • 46 Tino asprilla // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    @39 i hope this but have not heard this

  • 47 Slatymag // Aug 19, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    C’mon ladies and gents get yet french internationals, buy one get one free, take yer pick

  • 48 Zero // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    Jackel

    It was a rumour when he bought the 10% stake, in all fairness he should do it, as the money he spends/is willing to spend on transfers would keep rangers qualifing for Champs league along with Celtic. This would promote his brand more and it would be associated with a successful team.

    Logical but too good to be true lol

  • 49 Billythefish // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    Wasn’t expecting to win tonight, but was expecting a game of high tempo and passion. Pardew is clueless our team have no fight we had players booked and one oaf sent off and not one booking was for a dodgy tackle, all unnecessary. I don’t believe for a second It was Cabayes choice to not play.
    We are being sold short and have been since the Fat man took over. He is the root cause of all our problems.
    Good accounts though. What a shambles of a club we have been turned into and the worrying thing is some fans accept it, and believe the bullshit we are fed.

  • 50 wolfshead@toon // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:01 AM

    wynsleap

    they were probably drunk and clicked the wrong button haha

  • 51 Robby Bobson // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:02 AM

    Just got back from the game.

    Taylor was awful we looked leas vulnerable with mapou and colo, debuchy looked lost but the worst player on the pitch was cisse, he didnt make his runs, didnt challenge for any balls and gave up after 30 mins.

    Also, pardew gets blamed for long balls, but the team set out to play it out from the back with the centre halves pushing wide, the full backs pushing to half way line, but then krul decides to hoof it!

  • 52 West Lancs Geordie // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:02 AM

    So it’s Saylor out then? Colo & Mwanga Bw at CB. No recognised cover because Willo is just so weak for 6ft 5 or whatever. So is CB not a priority recruitment area as it has been for years (Boumsong & Co)?

  • 53 Mister Tuff // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    All this stuff about an inappropriate bid is bollox. Newcastle did not need to tell Cabaye if the bid was unacceptable -then his mind would have been ok -and he could have played. They now clearly intend to flog him -calculators will be out now working it all out. They should demand £35 million -I bet they do not. They want to ensure he is not injured thus the sale will go through. Dark days ahead lads I’m afraid. Cabaye was good pulling power for other players to be attracted to the club with even that going I fear for the future. No intention to progress and those in power are useless. No trophies this year lads.

  • 54 Robby Bobson // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    Positive side, sissoko looked good when he got into defensive positions, better than tiote.

    Dummett didnt let jesus run past him once, ben arfa looked lively as a player could have and krul is fit!

  • 55 Slatymag // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    @ jack butler

    Good point. I think I’d go for that as well to be honest. Strip the main assets to pay the remaining debt, and then flog the club for a reasonable amount. It’s got to be less painful than this!? Even if it means sure relegation, it’s getting to the point where only extreme actions are going to left as viable options.

  • 56 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    Toonking??
    WTF?
    Haidara isn’t on loan, dummett put the rest to shame, colo and MYM should be the first choice pairing Taylor needs selling………….now

  • 57 Robby Bobson // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    Just listenin to pardews interview….he dies realise his team were the ones in black and white.

    I was expecting for sorry, poor performance, we’ll make it up next week, not we played well and showed spirit!!

  • 58 Tino asprilla // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:07 AM

    Knowin our luck ashley will sell to those americans the scousers got rid of ha ha

  • 59 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:07 AM

    West Lancs
    I have said ALL summer we need at least one CB like Alderwield and then a young CB
    Taylor needs replacing as does willo, although truth be told I rate willo higher than Taylor

  • 60 luke.r // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    Was sat with 2 Everton fans watching the game and they said we just didn’t look passionate about the game and they were right. Ever since Barton and Nolan left we’ve missed those big characters in the team to drive us on and scrap when we need to.

  • 61 surrey_toon // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    man city away always going to be a hard game, i don’t think anyone expected a result they are world class, its them or chelsea in my view.
    Steven Taylor just made it without doubt out of our reach if it wasn’t before all the players where on tipping point from there i dont know if it was cabs pulling out that did it but alan made sure his heads been turned.
    if so replace him we look so disjointed its unreal.
    nufc needs some players with a bit of fight dont care where they come from just want them to give it there all, mike ashley seriously has to invest or whats the point of having a team.

  • 62 DENIro // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/alan-pardew-post-match-interview-arsenal-were-disrespectful/

  • 63 james589 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    I’d heard Ashley was looking to increase his investment in Rangers but I doubt it’s with a view to selling us.

    No one will pay the price he wants with the team performing this way and the club being run as it is. And neither of those things look likely to change. I think the club has huge potential given the right level of investment. Ashley has taken us so far in terms of financial stability but his ineptitude in terms of appointments and vice-like grip on the purse strings are holding us back. He’s reluctant to invest any more because he can’t see the return on his investment and it will increase the amount the club owe him. Worse still, he won’t recycle anywhere near 100% of any fee we get for Cabaye (or anyone else) into the transfer fund and everyone knows it.

    It would be good to have someone more ambitious and less risk averse in control but or he time being I think we’re stuck with Ashley.

    I think Pardew’s comments re. transfers in the post-match interview were telling. The way he bigged up Rémy made it sound like no one else would be coming in to me, don’t know what others thought?

  • 64 West Lancs Geordie // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:09 AM

    Cisse completely ineffective in present role but now we’ve got Remy who is injured & didn’t want to play for us & signed for QPR. Still on 70/80K a week though. Perhaps this is pissing off the rest of the squad. Pardew is just a puppet – he does as he is told. Any one of you could do his job. He has no say & will eventually be used as the scapegoat.

  • 65 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:09 AM

    When will that fat waste of space Mashley realise this is da premiership!!!
    Which mean AMBITION OR RELEGATION!!!
    We’ll see how much money he can make from the championship!!!

  • 66 stuart no9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    BOBBY ROBSON @ 50—-Also, pardew gets blamed for long balls, but the team set out to play it out from the back with the centre halves pushing wide, the full backs pushing to half way line, but then krul decides to hoof it
    ————————————-the team dont set out to play long balls , they are under orders from pardew . it is his fault!

  • 67 Zero // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    Assest strip, sell club, buy rangers : the Ashley guide to whats next as a Football club owner.

    In all fairness we wont be relegated unless he flogs half the players. And i think we are forgetting that it was Man City we played, yes we lacked alot of key things like spirit but comeone we never expected to win.

    I think we can only really get mad and panic if we lose our next two games.

    could be worse…we could be the mackems!

  • 68 wynsleap // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    JackButler @ 43
    Yes he may indeed (probably will) pocket the lot but the debt owed to him never goes down each season. Funny that!

  • 69 toonking // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    WEST LANCS
    to tell you the truth this team is miles away from being a decent team
    during june and july I was already saying we are desperate to buy a winger and strikers but now it’s almost everywhere
    the places that I dislike I will just put the positions
    ______krul___
    RB___colo_cb___lb
    HBA__cabaye_cm_LW
    ____cisse_STRIKER

    the capital letters are the position we definitely need better
    LB raylor could be ok their just a shame he is injured for the season
    CM we have got lots of CM and if we didn’t suffer from such a poor back 4 then that would probably not be a worry
    CB- probably is just the cover positions as in subs that are needed their.

  • 70 jimmysmith // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    we could win a cup, but spending the sort of money needed to challenge top 6, absolutely no chance, its a joke, an utterly uneven playing field, I’m not a big Ashley fan, but I wouldn’t throw money at it either, that’s just a mugs game.

  • 71 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    Zero
    Your right, I forgot we were playing city, so therefore should merely turn up lube up and bend over

  • 72 Robby Bobson // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:14 AM

    Stuart09….Im not sure what game you were watching but the set up from goal kicks waa exactly how i described 90% of the time.

  • 73 toonking // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    TADS
    I know dummett put the rest to shame mate but had he being started right away I can tell you now he would have been the player blamed for the defence because again he is not a player found by carr he came up from the youth so that mean poor coaching will have been done to most peoples thinking.
    I myself wouldn’t mind seeing him start next week but I bet once santon comes back as soon as a mistake gets done dummett will be called to be dropped.

  • 74 james589 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:16 AM

    I don’t think we’ll be the only team to lose 4-0 to City this season, in fact I think based on tonight’s performance when they hit top gear they could absolutely spank some teams.

    Within the first 6 minutes of the match they’d have been 3-0 up if it wasn’t for Krul. Not every team have a keeper as good as him.

    They teased us in the second half. We barely got the ball out of our half for the full 45 minutes. Perhaps to be expected with 10 men but even so.

    Like someone said above, I think we only need to worry if West Ham and Fulham go as badly as today, and obviously if Cabaye leaves and isn’t replaced that is a big concern also. Let’s see how things pan out eh? It’s only game 1 of 38!

  • 75 Robby Bobson // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    I wonder who we are lining up to buy in 18 months to buy cabaye then? Or maybe we can recall Richardson back from loan?

  • 76 Zero // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    tads … unfortunately it is the case, if he had put 5 defenders and 3 dcms on we all would have complained at him parking the bus, the side were ‘trying’ to do something but failed, at least he had the commonsense to pull HBA off when all was lost.

  • 77 boater // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    Wow JackButler – do you (and others) just have ‘Jonas Bashing’ on autopilot? His performances have been more inspiring in times gone by, but he shows for the ball, keeps possession and produces steady 6/10 performances. Sissoko would be flattered by a 2/10 since Chelsea. Debuchy,Gouffran and M’biwa have added no perceivable value to the team – and Cisse is anonymous (not entirely his fault).

    Can you not even entertain the possibility that when all the outfield players look rotten, it might not be a case of poor individual performances? Scapegoating is easier than engaging your brain though eh.

  • 78 Robby Bobson // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    *to replace cabaye

  • 79 jimmysmith // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    Wenger doesn’t want to play the game either and its not even his money. Twelve million for Cabs is probably about right, but he’ll probably go for twice that and not to Arsenal, who despite being a sober, thoughtful, model elite club will doubtless miss out on CL next season.

  • 80 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:18 AM

    Bloody frustrating. We plan for several days how to play against probably the strongest team in the league and what happens to our midfield playmaker? Doee he get injured in training? Nooo. Does he get transferred for £30M after 2 weeks of discussions? Nooo. A miserly £10M big comes in and he wasn’t in the right state of mine to play for whatever reason.

    Then Saylor screws up again and Jonas went off injured too…

    I think the team’s confidence must have been shattered going into this game without Cabaye. They must have planned all week how they were going to play with him and it becomes impossible when he is withdrawn with hours to go. Sure, he could have got a late injury but that’s very rare. Everyone would have expected him to play.

    Grrrrr….

  • 81 Robby Bobson // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:18 AM

    Did it show MA or kinnear at the game tonight?

  • 82 Sazzer // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    West Lancs Geordie
    Take off your rose-tinted glasses. It’s time for Steven Taylor to go.

    Injury-prone overpaid clown.

    It’s time for a better generation of local lads to take over.

    Give his wages to Dummet.

  • 83 Jinky Jim // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    Stands out like dogs balls. Fat Ash will sell the frog to the gooners and pay off Pards with part of the sale and make fek’near manager,it’s a no brainer.

  • 84 West Lancs Geordie // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    WE are just going to have to persevere with Saylor & Willo because Douglas wouldn’t come so why would Alderweild.? Joey Barton would give you bite in midfield on the the occasions he was “available” to play.
    Too many primadonnas & not enough pride & passion.
    Need a wealthy Tyneside entrepreneur but sadly don’t appear to be any willing to splash their hard earned cash so left with Ash who just wants to stash the cash.

  • 85 ToonDarnSarf // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    I don’t know why people are blaming it on Wenger, he didn’t exactly choose the timing of the bid! And if he did, why would he choose to help a rival for the top 4?!

    Either some dogsbody decided to make the bid today or perhaps the bid was days ago and it was someone in Cabaye’s team who leaked it because he really didn’t want to play…would be sad if it was the latter…

  • 86 Zero // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    @Rb were they even there? oh wait there wasnt a spurs game on tonight so MA might have been there.

  • 87 stuart no9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:21 AM

    bobby robson – not following you at all – you blame the team for playing hoof ball , not the manager?????????

  • 88 Robby Bobson // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:21 AM

    Zero…i dont no whats what i wanted to know….hope wherever they were they heard the ‘spend some f*****g money’ chants

  • 89 james589 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:23 AM

    I thought Jonas was one of our better players today before his injury. I’ve been skeptical of his performances in the past, particularly back end of last season but he’s been working hard and looking solid pre-season and given that Pardew ain’t gonna play anyone else unless he has to then I figured I’d get over last season.

    Today he and Mapou were not doing a bad job with Zabaletta and Navas down their flank (what a horrendous partnership to be up against!!) and Dummett did great when he came on, talk about baptism of fire. His problem then though was ever-changing personnel in front of him who didn’t offer the same protection as Jonas had been, but luckily he was up to most of what Navas had to offer today. Definitely earned a start in the next game for me.

  • 90 Zero // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    The bid went in today because its a Monday, or is that too obvious that everyone would be back in the club office to make the phone calls etc.?

  • 91 Spuggy // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    No more french players – some have terrible attitudes when things don’t go well, spitting dummies out (Debuchy, Cabaye lots of times, HBA and obertan waltzing back).

    We need a couple of fighters in this team who have courage and leadership. No leaders on the pitch, no one tell everyone where to go what to do.

  • 92 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    What on earth were we doing playin around on the ball just outside our box! We should be playin it more direct at a faster pace, get it away from our box. Clueless pardew didn’t even have a plan!

    How about have guti and goofy play off cisse, both come deep for the ball instead of cisse. Both they hold up, the rest of the teams job is offer support. We’re not da best at crossing but we like cutting ball back 2 cisse from da wings.

    How about playing 5 in defence against top 6 teams to stop embarrassing like 2nite, or 6-0 vs liverpool, 7-3 arsenal

    Pardew must go!! I think I can do a better job!

  • 93 jimmysmith // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    Dummet is not any sort of silver lining, he’s got a million miles to go before he’s a big influence on this side and no disrespect to a lad that’s done great to even get where he is, its unlikely he’ll get halfway.

  • 94 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    What on earth were we doing playin around on the ball just outside our box! We should be playin it more direct at a faster pace, get it away from our box. Clueless pardew didn’t even have a plan!

    How about have guti and goofy play off cisse, both come deep for the ball instead of cisse. Both they hold up, the rest of the teams job is offer support. We’re not da best at crossing but we like cutting ball back 2 cisse from da wings.

    How about playing 5 in defence against top 6 teams to stop embarrassing like 2nite, or 6-0 vs liverpool, 7-3 arsenal, 5-0 spurs

    Pardew must go!! I think I can do a better job!

  • 95 Spuggy // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    Players like Dummet give 100% – we need more of those to balance against french flair.

  • 96 toonking // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:26 AM

    stuart09
    listen here mate you should start o watch ever single Manchester united game this season because they have got moyse and everton had done more long ball last season that stoke so if managers are the reason for this stupid hoofballing then their owners and SAF must be stupider than I thought because they both had good belief in moyse.

  • 97 Zero // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:26 AM

    Spuggy, we got rid of Nolan and Barton for those exact reasons, if one or two players can control players on the pitch they can do it in the dressing room, with weak managers this is seen as a threat and is nipped in the bud.

  • 98 Spuggy // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    Parker would have been a good shout – a fighter!

  • 99 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    We need more players like hba, or scott sinclair, players who have no fear of takin defenders on!

    No wonder cisse was makin excuses not 2 play for us, he refuses 2 wear wonga shirt for religious reasons

  • 100 jimmysmith // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    Complaining about the timing of a bid is pathetic, that’s what clubs do , they bid for players they want, and not playing someone because a low bid comes in is equally pathetic. Cabaye is either an a hole, or Ashley is just gonna sell to the highest bidder.

  • 101 toonking // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    Jimmy
    dummett right now is looking the best on of them all I would have him in that team any day over debuchy .

  • 102 stuart no9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    will people stop saying ‘ but we were playing the best team in the league, and its only 1 game ‘ – how do you know they are the best team in the league? they havnt played anyone yet. – get beat – fair enough , get embarressed and humiliated – never never never acceptable , so stop trying to justify tonight performence, it was a sh/t performence by a sh/t team – get used to it. you make my teeth itch you really do.

  • 103 noladonna // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    We should try swapping cabaye and debuchy for sakho and
    van der Weil

  • 104 james589 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    Sorry I’m not buying this Cabaye situation affecting the whole team’s performance/blaming it on Wenger… Not from our fans and definitely not from our manager.

    Yes, the timing of the bid was bad. Yes, there will have been a detrimental impact on Cabaye’s state of mind and consequently, other team members (best friends with Débuchy). But that can’t excuse some of the individual performances some players put in tonight. Tioté, Débuchy and, obviously, Taylor were all exceptionally poor. In a situation like this, it is the manager’s job to steady the ship, calm everyone down, galvanise the players and make the changes needed. This didn’t happen.

    Either the players value Cabaye more highly than Pardew (and why wouldn’t you?) or Pardew didn’t do his job well enough tonight. Either way these are professional footballers we are talking about, who are paid vast sums to be exactly that- professional. What we saw from Taylor and Débuchy tonight was, in my view, far from professional.

    I have no qualms in admitting City were by far the better side but that doesn’t excuse some of the performances we witnessed this evening.

  • 105 Zero // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    Shadow shearer im not buying the new Wonga top because its fugly, i think he could use that excuse and id still support him in not wearing let alone his religion.

    I could honestly understand if he puts a transfer request in, at the end of the day we have noone to give him support or feed him, at the moment our team is simple not designed for his type of striker… then if he ever reads these kind of blogs and sees people slating him for things that are out of his control..

  • 106 paul24 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:34 AM

    While I think it’s harsh to judge players on the first day of the season, I do think this match highlighted a few problem players. Debuchy was very poor, I’m really starting to wonder if he is up for the Premier League, Tiote was terrible in the first half, he just strolled about ball watching and looked like he couldnt be ar5ed, I do think he picked up a bit second half but it was a poor showing from him. I think they should get till christmas to proove themselves or there out the door. As for Steven Taylor, I’d just release him, he’s not fit to wear a Newcastle shirt.

  • 107 Zero // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    @Stuart no9

    Did you really expect it to be anything else, the amount of money and talent in the MC squad is immense… im pretty sure there will be more embarrassing score lines to come when people play them, for instance could you imagine what they would have done to the new sunderland squad playing the way they did today…. seriously when we play teams that we can hold possession against and actually move forward without the constant threat of an immense counter then we can truely judge our teams performance.

  • 108 West Lancs Geordie // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    Well whatever all you “experts” say the next 12/13 days will map out what happens to this club in the coming season. Can’t see much incoming activity apart from the odd loan deal. Cabaye will certainly be sold. They shot the wrong JFK in 1963! Pards will be sacked & made Ashley’s scapegoat. I’ll be going to Morecambe next Wednesday to watch our reserves get dumped out of the Capital One Cup by the Shrimps so we can concentrate on Prem survival. Let’s hope we have enough to finish above Crystal Palace, Hull, A.n. other (hopefully the Mackems). And MA sells the club to a wealthy Oil Giant!

  • 109 boater // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    Finding consolation in the ‘could have been worse’ scoreline eschews the bigger problems. Only losing 4-0 to ‘the best’ doesn’t mean we will beat West Ham or Norwich – the same problems will be in evidence there – even if the games are tighter. We have no attacking strategy, and worse, no movement in midfield – which led to misplaced passes piling pressure on the defense every 5 minutes.

    Bills Sons theory that we need more central defenders. Hmm we always come back to that old chestnut at NUFC – I thought M’Biwa was going to fix it? Oh no wait, Aulderwield will, oh look – another 5 shipped he’s not good enough now, someone else please. The individuals could be better but, honestly, Vidic and Kompany wouldn’t have done much better tonight. We’d have still been hammered.

  • 110 jimmysmith // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    Actually, I take that back about Cabaye, he may just be feeling trapped at a club well beneath his own capabilities, even so, I hope the decision not to play was in no way his.

  • 111 stuart no9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:40 AM

    toonking @94 — is that the same moyes and man -u that won 4-1 away from home on saturday???

  • 112 daztoon // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:40 AM

    Was just the same performance wise as last season.Pardew doesn’t and never will learn from his mistakes as he never makes any according to him.Its always someone else’s fault.

  • 113 toonking // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:40 AM

    my ratings for the players overall are this
    krul 8/10
    debuchy 1/10
    saylor 0/10
    colo 5/10
    mbiwa 3/10
    tiote 1/10
    Jonas 7/10
    HBA 7/10
    cisse 4/10
    gouffran 2/10
    anita 3/10
    dummett 8/10

  • 114 james589 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    What Zero said. Anyone expecting anything out of today’s game was misguided. We’ve lost 8 league games in a row to them and they are unbeaten in the last 14 against us now.

    Their squad is quality through and through and unlike us, they played as a team and also have strength in depth that we do not have. However, as I said previously, that doesn’t excuse certain individual performances which fell a long way short of the mark.

    I don’t mind if we lose to a better team, so long as the performance is good. Tonight the performance was not good and that has riled me.

  • 115 toonking // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    stuart
    if you are saying then that moyse did good then it proves that the players are the one who choose to do hoofball because it was absolute fact that everton wer the 3rd or 4th worst for hoofballing it last season and certain worst that stoke FACT

  • 116 jimmysmith // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    I think the only thing that will save us is a grossly wealthy gangster tycoon or minted corrupt royal dynasty, even then they’d have to be prepared to be rolled by Ash. It really is a fairly astonishing state of affairs.

  • 117 Zero // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    @ James

    what worries me is the lack of basics we seem to have, pass and move is something that doesnt register then theres the old chestnut of too many players ball watching. I still stand by we carnt judge them untill they play someone more our level…. but i didnt say how we would judge them… tbh unless things shape up we are in for another dross season of wishing it to end.

  • 118 West Lancs Geordie // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:46 AM

    Perhaps to level the playing field in the Premiership it’s time clubs were “franchised” like American Football & big businesses “sponsored” the teams. The proviso being that each club must make a profit. Something has got to change as otherwise there won’t be a Football League in 10 years time.

  • 119 West Lancs Geordie // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:54 AM

    Going to bed now. No one as a solution. The big 5 or 6 are going to get bigger & the alsorans (including NUFC) are going to be left behind with the scragends of the game. Accept it or throw the towel in – it’s reality! Our fan base suggests we should top the rest but the Southerners who run the club are only in it for their own ends!

  • 120 james589 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    @Zero

    I don’t know what you thought but when we kept the ball on the floor and it found its way to Sissoko or Ben Arfa it almost looked like football. Then we’d lose our way and pass it all the way back to Krul or Tioté would attempt a ridiculous long ball towards Cissé, who against Kompany and Lescott, with no one to play it onto, never had a chance.

    City were very robust at the back, and their counter speed was deadly, but what concerned me was our inability to penetrate their penalty area- I don’t think we were in it at all save for set pieces. No creativity, Cissé completely isolated, it was useless. As I said earlier, anyone who thinks another striker will fix the problem needs to look at the service Cissé got tonight.

    We seem to have forgotten how to play football and we can’t play hoofball particularly well either. We will come up against defenses less robust than Man City who will also have less technical ability, but if we play like we did tonight, with no ideas, no passion, no desire, it could go just as wrong.

    Here’s hoping something changes.

  • 121 thegeordieraver // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    We were f(((((g disgusting tonight lads! Benny looked good and had them worried,he has to play cam for
    Me tho, gutti was f*****g shocking and Saylor ain’t
    Good enough to play against the
    Top players fact! I’m so f****g angry to pay 45 quid and our players not even try to get the ball
    Ball

  • 122 stuart no9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:56 AM

    zero —- lets get one thing out the way, we are supposed to be 1 of the richest clubs in the world, why arnt we playing like one?? you say did i expect any thing else? no i didnt , why ? coz we are sh/t. , but at the same time dont forget we are in the SAME league as them , well we are on paper , but not on footballing issues , there should never ever be that much of a gap in quality in this league, Are we going down ? yes we are , why? because there isnt 3 teams worse than us in the prem this season. We were lucky last season , 2 or 3 more games and we were down, we have ALL season to go down now with the same cr’p manager, that is why we will go down , now you tell me why we wont go down,

  • 123 Cisse09 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:07 AM

    No leadership, Can’t pass a ball, Tiote,Cisse and Sissoko cant even control a ball, Benny just plays on his own lmao!, and for the second goal tgey cut us straight down the middle and we had the ball just outside there box! Taylor goes and be’s a c***. .. Whole team lacks confidence, starts with the manager! We have quality in the team real quality f**k ur big spenders! Ye they have quality too … They’ve got capacity! But we av Carr un we have seen when we finished 5th what where capable off! Pardew got to cockey thought he knew it all! You could tell Cabaye wanted go in jan; if you ask me he would be doing the right thing cause wer just going boom :( ( bad time whilst pardew is in place me thinks!

  • 124 stuart no9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:09 AM

    toonking @113 i think if you revisit last years tables you will notice everton finished 6th in the league under moyes, not bad for a hoof ball team with a hoof ball manager, pardew could be the hoofball king if we finished 6th , but the problem is with pardew he tries to play hoofball and cant get that right either , he nearly got us relagated

  • 125 james589 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:12 AM

    @stuart no9

    I think it’s very premature to say there aren’t 3 teams worse than us after one game. You need to acknowledge that whilst we were more than below par tonight, City played very well and have a team of superstars. Even in the season where we finished 5th they beat us both times we played them.

    Yes we’re in the same league but the gulf, both in terms of football and finance, between the big 4/5 teams and everyone else is plain for all to see, and you’re naive if you don’t acknowledge that.

    I can’t honestly say that I feel that the likes of Crystal Palace, Hull, Cardiff, Stoke, etc. are better teams than us and I hope most fans would agree with me on that.

    Despite what you say, we are not a cr@p team. We have the potential to be a good or even a great team, as 2011/12 showed. And we have the same manager now as we had then, so personally I don’t think he’s as cr@p as you and others try to make out either.

    There’s no denying we’ve somehow lost our way and I think multiple people are to blame for that. Given the majority of our starters tonight were international footballers, I think they let themselves down. I’m sure Pardew’s tactics could have been better but I’m sure he’d be motivated to do better if he wasn’t about to lose one of his top players or at least had some say in the matter.

    Some people on this blog, yourself included, seem to love the doom and gloom. I agree that if we play every game how we played tonight then our chances this season are slim to none, but I think Man City deserve more respect than you’re affording them- title contenders for sure whereas we know that we are not. I also think that our squad does have potential, and, on paper at least, is the strongest we’ve had in a number of years.

    Currently, the players aren’t playing to there potential. A few wins could change that. A few more losses could compound that. But either way I will continue to support the club I love and try to be optimistic even though, on the back of a performance and result like tonight’s, it’s difficult.

    These are just my opinions so feel free to disagree with them, but I don’t understand what there is to be gained by continuous negativity.

  • 126 gonufc (Release the Hatem Bomb) // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:16 AM

    I really cannot blame HBA for going into ‘playground’/ roy of the rovers mode- nothing was going to happen if he didn’t do it!

    Similiarly, don’t blame Cisse too much, he’s not good as a target man, his touch is fine, it’s that he kept getting outmuscled every time! Pardew knows this!

    Debuchy- terrible. Has a horrible habit of saying “F8ck this, I’m gonna get myself booked/ sent off”- should’ve been a pen against Toure too.

    STaylor – just poor- like a lower league player in his first top level game.

    Sissoko – passing was terrible.

    Tiote- patches of good and bad.

    Jonas – unlucky to be injured- actually put in a good cross!!!!!!

    M’biwa- showed his frustration with his kick out at Dzeko. Better at CB.

    Gouffran – anonymous.

    Krul – Wonderful. Incredible. Doesn’t deserve to be on the 0 side of that score. All kinds of saves: point blank (with his hands, not just hit him by luck!), rushing out, fingertip low down, smashed at him. Everything.

  • 127 TimKrulFan // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:18 AM

    We have the best GK in the prem and he showed it today I fear we will lose Cabaye and HBA who is irreplaceable with are budget,

  • 128 james589 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:19 AM

    And let’s have another thing straight. We are one of the richest clubs in the world based on revenue. We have loyal fans who fill the stadium week in, week out, buy the shirts, etc. What we don’t have is a rich, oil baron/Sheikh/otherwise obscenely wealthy owner who is willing to throw money at us like his play thing.

    That is why we cannot and will not compete with the likes of Man City. That is why we have Cissé and Ameobi as our permanent first team strikers and not any combination of Jovetic, Dzeko, Negredo, Agüero and I’m sure others who’ve forgotten.

    If you can’t understand why, aside from your personal vendetta against Pardew, any of the above makes a difference, then I can’t explain it any other way.

  • 129 gonufc (Release the Hatem Bomb) // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:25 AM

    @james – could you please explain the 70% increase in TV money and the lack of signings?

    Also, the spending of teams like Swansea, Cardiff, Norwich, Palace, West Brom.

    Even teams like Palace are spending a great deal more than us!

    That is choice rather than capability.

  • 130 lukes26 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:29 AM

    I personally never liked Cabaye. He’s a decent footballer though.

  • 131 stuart no9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:29 AM

    james 589 the negativity comes from within, it is not something some fans have just made up it comes from NUFC itself for the waythey run the club, we just say it as it is and maybe you shoiuld not be so naive to think any thing different . the doom and gloom ? brought on again from within , not the fans . and refering back to 2011-2012 when we had a decent team – newcastle won the cup in 1955 – so what , that was then -this the now pardew got lucky , and if it wasnt luck , then why cant he do it year in year out, ask the west ham fans , the reading fans , the southampton fans, what he was like , they cant all be wrong can they ?and i agree we have the chance of having a good team , i never said we have sh/t players i said we have a sh/t team that is down to pardew and his cronies . try to be optimistic as much as you like, it wont get you anywhere , i,m more realistic and live in the real world

  • 132 thegeordieraver // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:37 AM

    James, if you were there tonite you would have seen how rufined our club is with both parts and ash

  • 133 thegeordieraver // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:37 AM

    Ruined

  • 134 Zero // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:37 AM

    @Stuart so it wasnt the team that got to the fifth place finish??

    im anti-pards but comeon we went up against the better side and lost, we couldnt play football even if we wanted to against them. At the moment we are lacking a crucial second striker and a feeder, either via the wings or a CAM but somehing will have to change.

    As for being one of the richest clubs in the world… yes we made the top 20, however MA runs this as a business and we ‘owe’ him money… which he takes out of our revenue. We have good players in our squad, i worry that Pards (based on last year) doesnt appear to know how to deploy them to be effective.

    I also worry about the seemingly lack of basic skills that should be getting practiced week in week out (they should already have being EPL players)

  • 135 stuart no9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:40 AM

    james 589 it is because of fans like you , we still have this cretin of a owner and in the mess we now find ourself in, you are the reason ashley stays, knowing no matter how bad we are people like you will support the regime , you think you are doing the team a favour by voicing your support , your not, they looked like they didnt want to be there tonight, i dont thinkanyone of those players would mind if ashley was forced out , because we are in for a really tough time if he isnt . Thats something to look forward to isnt it ?

  • 136 micbush // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:42 AM

    James589

    I am shocked.
    That was quite possibly, the most sanest, rational post i have ever seen on this blog. Well said. Too much negative, knee-jerking on here.

    Also with regards to the “hoofball”. It was quite clear that the team was set out to pass it out from the back. Tiote was the only one lumping it forward, how people can blame pardew for that is beyond me.

  • 137 Zero // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:44 AM

    @Stuart how do you intend to force an owner out of ‘HIS’ club…. note this is someone who in the past appears to get a ‘kick’ out of tormenting geordies when we fight against him.

    At the end of the day if he thought the time was up and no other option, he’d sell all our good players, take our parachute payment and sell to anyone who bid for our ramshacked club.(hed probably make the most money that way).

    So i posed this wuestion early, would be better off and would you accept that… championship, no good players but rid of ashley?

  • 138 stuart no9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:50 AM

    zero @ 130— you say we owe him money – WE OWE HIM NONEY ? what the hell are you talking about we owe him money ?????????? do you not think he owes us a decent team for turning up in 100000s every week to watch shite ???? he owes us big time , he has got his money back mate 3 fold , we owe him money ? the most silliest comment i have read on this blog- unbelievable.

  • 139 stuart no9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:51 AM

    zero @ 133 — dont go.

  • 140 james589 // Aug 20, 2013 at 2:00 AM

    Look, the point I was making before was specifically surrounding Newcastle’s inability to compete with Man City financially, and, as a direct consequence, on the football field.

    I, like every other fan, am completely frustrated by the lack of incoming transfers at a time when reinforcements are needed and we know additional funds are available. Here we are only 1 game into the season and we have a CB suspended for 3 games and a LM out for who knows how long? Our lack of strength in depth with doubtlessly be exposed yet again. I thought we may have learned our lessons from last summer but evidently not. Anyone we do bring in now will need time to integrate into the squad. Had the signings been made 2 months ago then they would have had sufficient time prior to the start of the season to integrate.

    You don’t need me to explain the reason behind the lack of signings. It seems pretty clear to me that Mike Ashley a) appointed someone to be in charge of transfer activity who clearly wasn’t up to the job and b) isn’t willing to invest more than the bare minimum in order to try and make the most money possible when he ultimately sells the club.

    Unlike many fans, I admired him and acknowledged the work he did to bring financial stability, balancing the books and putting an end to the non-sensical, unsustainable way of operating we had where we were happy to pay the likes of Mr Owen extortionate weekly salaries to spend the majority of the season on the physio’s table.

    However, every model needs flexibility and needs to adapt and change with the times and that, unfortunately, is where it is all going wrong. Everyone around us is spending their windfall on good, quality signings (Swansea and Norwich’s activity has particularly impressed me). Meanwhile, we’re scraping the bottom of the transfer barrel, quibbling over transfer fees and missing out on key targets as a result.

    After his, in my opinion, mediocre performances last season, people wouldn’t be so opposed to Cabaye going if they knew that the funds would be 100% recycled into the transfer fund, but the almost certain knowledge that they won’t be means that it’s an even bigger deal.

    There is no transparency and the manager has little to no say in what goes on when it comes to transfers. That’s what pushed Keegan out second time round, it’s probably what Hughton was always too polite to say, and it is, in my opinion, what is holding Pardew back now. The guy isn’t an idiot. He knows how to manage. He knows where we need to strengthen to improve the team. He doesn’t need some 66-year-old geezer to help him with that. But he doesn’t have free reign and that is a huge, huge problem in my view.

  • 141 Shadow_Shearer // Aug 20, 2013 at 2:04 AM

    Pardew is gonna have the same excuses for the next two weeks till da window shuts, he’s gonna say I’ve bein sayin all summer we need more firepower upfront, that’s why cisse looks so isolated, nothin wrong with my tactics!

  • 142 james589 // Aug 20, 2013 at 2:09 AM

    @Micbush – thanks, good to know I’m not the only one who thinks I’m sane ;-)

    @Stuart No9 – Ashley issued the club a £100m interest-free loan to wipe off all existing debt when he bought the club, so as horrific as it may seem to you, yes, the club do technically owe him money. What the fans are owed after years of unwavering support and little to nothing to show for it is another conversation entirely!

  • 143 Zero // Aug 20, 2013 at 2:18 AM

    @James

    I dont think people understands= the extent of our debt and the money making mind of our owner, as much as it pains me to say it, if we do anything out of the ordinary it will be down to over preforming not because investment and ambition has been put into the club.

    MA is here to make money not entertain us, but merly keep us interested in the club long enough. There will always be 52K people at the matches wasnt our average in the championship something like 40-45K, just because we dont approve of the owner i dont think the right course is to quit following the club.

  • 144 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 20, 2013 at 2:34 AM

    Well done James. Not to be funny, but a nice piece.

    The problems at this football club run alot deeper than first team coaching.

  • 145 Sydney Toon // Aug 20, 2013 at 2:56 AM

    James
    Thank you for your practical and logical wisdom.

    Stuart – take a load off!

    Everybody else – The result was bad, but at the end of the day we were at Etihad, against a $1B squad, against a supremo coach. No team, even Chelsea or Man U, would have withstood a team like that in that mood.

    Defensively we were stretched, especially with Saylor losing his head again. Once you take out Cabaye from our team, our flow does not click, our right side is not as powerful and Tiote is needed to attack more which is a weakness of his.

    Judge the team and manager after West Ham and Fulham at home. I am expecting 6 points from those games. If not, then we know where we are at.

    I like most would like Ashley to sell, I appreciate the stability he has brought, but I liken him to a conservative politician – will fix our issues but wont move us forward.

    I still have faith in Pards, small but enough to hope he can bring to positive results at home. I was impressed that although we were getting pumped, we kept trying to attack. It was disjointed because last minute we lose our main playmaker in Cabaye, gone were weeks of pre season training and confidence. We underestimate the importance of Cabaye and our reliance on him.

    You will say, well lets go a more team based tactic. We don’t have the quality across the pitch regular enough to do that. Additionaly, when Cabaye is so used to having control of the game, why take it off him. Obviously Anita was shadowing Cabaye during pre season, so if Cabaye is indeed to be sold to Arsenal or PSG, in which I really do not want, we need to either fully back Anita first thing tomorrow morning at training or look at replacements such as McCarthy, Badelj, Poli etc…

  • 146 Car Toon // Aug 20, 2013 at 3:13 AM

    Wenger knows very well that we are not going to accept that bid. What he is trying to do is make Cabaye force the transfer out of Newcastle so that he can get him for cheap. But what he doesn’t know is that Ashley is the master of the trick he is trying to apply. He will better offer Cabaye to PSG that Arsenal who will surely pay larger sum.
    But either way we are destined to loose him.

  • 147 Novocastrian66 // Aug 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM

    Steven Taylor’s challenge was shocking. He is a seasoned pro now and should not lose his discipline in that manner.
    As for Cabaye; his heart is no longer with the club and I don’t blame him. I hope he stays but if he does leave I will wish him well.

  • 148 terencelim // Aug 20, 2013 at 3:42 AM

    Did I just hear someone say the fans OWE Ashley’s money??? So the fat owner basically make the club financial stability by making the club more debt than ever before.

  • 149 jonobbad // Aug 20, 2013 at 3:58 AM

    Cabaye will get no well wishes from me. Fair enough if he wants to go but he should give his all for this club until the day he is gone.
    Pathetic actions from a so called role model.
    f*** off back to france kebab.

  • 150 thai-mag // Aug 20, 2013 at 4:18 AM

    Pardew says we were giving a good account of ourselves before Taylor got sent off, apart from one long range effort from benny, I don’t even think we got anywhere near their penalty area the first half, it could have been 3 0 down after 6 minutes, so I don’t know what game he was watching. Got to look on the bright side but, at least Jonas is injured, hopefully for months and Taylor will be banned for 3 games so he cant play them for a while.

  • 151 stuart no9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 4:27 AM

    james539@136 i agree totally with everything you say in your post you are 99% spot on, however being able to compete financially is something we could do but not prepared to, that is the difference..Look , ash is a billionaire , hes not skint , – no i dont mean spending 35or 40m on 1 player even i think that is stupid, however at least spend enough to avoid humiliation like last night , withdrawing your best player hours before the start of the season was nothing short of cruel, unnacceptable as far as us fans are concerned and dare i say very hard on pardew who had planned his game no doubt around cabs, an evil stroke that only had 1 outcome. While most owners were sitting , excited about how his team would fair in the prem this season , what was ours doing ? working out his sums on how much he was going to get by selling one of our best players, sick , ruthless, perverse example of an owner desperate to finish us, because make no mistake about it , its coming

  • 152 stuart no9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 4:37 AM

    sydney @141 even chelsea or man u couldnt have withstood that you say- how do you know that ? how do you know how good they are, they have only played us haha, In football there is such a thing where , when 1 team is so poor they make the other team look like world beaters, how do you know from the first game that that is not the case ? you dont – so leave your silly remarks untill they have played a few games , then come back to me, untill then learn abit more about the game before you come on here and pretend you know what your talking about.

  • 153 Zero // Aug 20, 2013 at 4:45 AM

    Stuart your right … we should be able to compete not really with the top 5 now but yes we should be able to buy top-ish players, however as you pointed out MA up to this point has made no effort to make funds available to get the slightly better players (in this window and last summer – players at all). Unfortunately he is here to make a profit from the club not run it for the entertainment, excitement and basically have it as abit of a expensive toy. I think i mentioned a while back when we failed to sign PEA, that i was perplected at why the club usually fails to meet the extra 1-2 million on a top player but then goes and wastes 1-2 million on ‘prospect’ players that will not have a chance at breaking into our top 11 unless there is a major injury crisis….

    i very much doubt MA is out to finiish us, i honestly dont think he gives a rats ass about us, and when the gravy train isnt living up to its investment, i.e. we get relegated or dont finish very high then he might see his money is better placed elsewhere and sell up (we can hope).

  • 154 Sydney Toon // Aug 20, 2013 at 4:46 AM

    Stuart

    How do you know that Ashley has not given JK and co a kitty to work to??? It is obviously substantial because we would not have bid $15m+ for PEA would we????

    I don’t like Ashley because of the failures from the past, but I still appreciate the footing he has given us. If he sold the club now, why would he not get $300m, we are not in debt, so it is appealing to say, a consortium or bank roller, looking to get in and make waves.

    Plus I think he sees Rangers as the perfect fit for his current model, unfortunately his model wont work here because of the ambition and the success the fans crave. At Rangers they will see success again without having to spend millions like they used to, look at Celtic, always producing great players and selling them for higher fees. Wanyama a very clear example of that!

    Perhaps, and this is a long shot, Ashley had good intentions on helping the club back to a footing it needed, finds an oil or similar tycoon to bankroll the club and he moves on making a decent profit. Deluded thinking I know but what if he does sell us to a tycoon and we start splashing dollars at players, will we be happy… NO, next in quewe is JK & AP and the rest of the staff except our fitness coach. When a clear out happens, will we be happy NO, the tycoon puts say…McClaren in charge, oh hell no not McClaren!! So we whinge about that, blame the owner blah blah and it keeps going!

    When will ever learn that sometimes in life, football is just a game and Newcastle is not a way of life….NEVER!

    I have signed up for life with Newcastle, through thick and thin, but I will never the club trying to please the unpleasable!

  • 155 Sydney Toon // Aug 20, 2013 at 4:49 AM

    Stuart
    So I know nothing about football hey… I am assuming you feel this way is because I am from Australia and you from England??? Don’t take shots at somebody, claiming that you are better than them with a keyboard, come down here and say it to my face you putz!

  • 156 Zero // Aug 20, 2013 at 4:52 AM

    Sydney i wouldnt bother mate, its the same bloke arguing we are screwed because we played bad against a very good team, but you carnt state a good point that alot of teams would have failed against Man City today, suspect you will be proven right next weekend, i just hope it was them being awesome and not a case of us being completely crap.

  • 157 Zero // Aug 20, 2013 at 4:57 AM

    Look at it this way, at least we played like crap against a side we normally not beat, instead of buggering up a game where we should have taken all 3 points. The board and MA, JK ans Pards now have time to try and put things right before our next match. Have some faith the team will pull together and do something good…. they are ment to be full internationals trying to impress for the world cup squad selections.

  • 158 gonufc (Release the Hatem Bomb) // Aug 20, 2013 at 4:58 AM

    @stuart – just because someone disagrees doesn’t mean you have the right to be so obnoxious and condescending.

    On topic…

    It’s getting to the point now where I feel like the club is literally not even trying any more. Seriously. Not as hyperbole or rhetoric, but they are literally not attempting to make the team better in any way.

    More money than ever and spending less than ever and potentially selling one of our best players.

  • 159 Zero // Aug 20, 2013 at 5:02 AM

    offtopic i carnt seem to say your full name gonufc without trying to do an Arnie impression lol.

  • 160 Sydney Toon // Aug 20, 2013 at 5:05 AM

    Thanks Zero

    I have no issue with Stuart being upset over the loss and honestly a painful transfer window, I hate being criticised for having an opinion when it is obviously because I am from Australia. Little does he know of my footballing history. But honestly we hoped for a good display, we wanted to see changes to the way we played. We tried to attack the game, ball was on the floor most of the time. So we saw some minor positives, defensively we were poor, but Man City made us look poor, all 5 defenders we used are internationals at some level.
    They were awesome, I saw a lot of our players fighting, Taylor took it too literal, but we fought hard defensively, they were simply a class above. We tried to create chances, but without Cabaye, even Hatem looks lost at times, so many times those two would link up we would look great.
    I think against both West Ham and Fulham, they will be close because both teams are very tight units, but I firmly believe we will bounce back and with hopefully a settled Cabaye and a fit Santon, we can take the game to them.
    I saw Chelsea and they had to really fight hard against Hull, it took some magic passing to break them. I then saw destroy Swansea, but Swansea were not themselves and could not hold the ball than what they are used to.
    But Man City proved to me that they are the best of the big 3, Our defence on paper is one of the best in the PL, we had no answer. Add to the fact City’s pre season involved some of the biggest clubs in the world and we played the likes of Rangers, St Mirren etc, pre season matches may also need to include for us higher quality opponents closer tot he start of the season.

  • 161 gonufc (Release the Hatem Bomb) // Aug 20, 2013 at 5:17 AM

    @Zero – haha, nice.

    @Sydney – I’m not so sure I saw all that fight or determination. They just looked frustrated to me. Debuchy threw a bit of a tantrum and got himself stupidly booked.

    It was scary how poor the passing was without Cabaye. No one passed forwards!! Almost every move went up to the half way line and then worked its way back to Krul!

    I was a little annoyed by Pardew’s comments trying to put a positive “We showed great determination and we wouldn’t have come out of that like we did without it” as if we’d gotten a draw!?

    erghh… This summer has been the worst ever I think….Even though we say that every summer at the moment, they just get progressively worse!

  • 162 stuart no9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 5:21 AM

    sydney — have you got a complex or something about coming from australia,? coz i didnt mention it , so we have a bit of a temper have we? in england , we discuss and debate and argue our case , saying comments like ‘ come down here and say it to my face you putz ‘ is not really something said on this blog. If you cant debate and dont like the others opinion without getting violent – dont come on it, coz by getting violent and angry one can only assume you have lost the argument and threatening behaviour is your final straw. very disapointing. i thought you would have lasted longer than that. oh and by the way – you dont know me , you dont know who i am , so please refrain from threatening me.

  • 163 stuart no9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 5:25 AM

    go nufc —– where was i being obnoxious?????

  • 164 gonufc (Release the Hatem Bomb) // Aug 20, 2013 at 5:27 AM

    @stuart – “…then come back to me, untill then learn abit more about the game before you come on here and pretend you know what your talking about.”

    Around there somewhere.

  • 165 Zero // Aug 20, 2013 at 5:32 AM

    Stuart youve been pretty much obnoxious to everyone on this thread so far just read back through your own comments, you have literally doomed and gloomed everyone with inane rantings of the worst display ever and we are sure to get relegated etc.
    For you to try and get on a high horse against Sydney is just stupid, fairenuff you havnt threatened anyone but you have shouted i.e. (CAPS LOCK KINGED) both me and James earilier for not sharing your views of boycoting the club etc. and paranoid delusions of MA only being here to shaft us.

  • 166 jazzyp // Aug 20, 2013 at 5:33 AM

    Morning lads-Have we all calmed down after that debacle last night.
    Im sure it has all been said over the last 6-7 hrs regarding the inept display the toon put on show for all to see and I for one was shocked at how we have not changed from last season in the slightest.
    For those of you who have said there is nothing wrong with our defence even after having one of the worse records last term for goals conceded, And for those who have said that the French players that came in January and will have had a full pre season behind them and will be like new signings…………………….I suggest you pull your head out of your arse and take a step back , gather your thoughts and look how bad things are for nufc.

  • 167 Sydney Toon // Aug 20, 2013 at 5:33 AM

    Stuart
    No temper, just stating my case and you had the first shot, I simply finished it off! That was not a threat, simply telling you where to go to have a face to face discussion about how much I do know about football. I never questioned you, I simply cannot comprehend your attitude towards our club. We lost the game, end of story, another 37 to go and I simply made the point or few of them, that City were by far a class above.
    This result was not because of Ashley.. some responsibility of coach and players, but City were simply far better. I dislike him as well, but try taking a viewpoint that the owner cant run the club and manage the games and squad can he?? If you want to blame somebody, blame Pellegrini and his players, how dare they be so damn good and make us look out of place!

    By the way, I may not know you and you don’t know me, so before you start telling somebody to go and learn more about the game, think twice about the possible reactions you will get!

  • 168 jazzyp // Aug 20, 2013 at 5:42 AM

    Sidneytoon
    Good morning mate
    Man city were far more superior to us granted..But I don’t think we helped our cause in the slightest with that display last night. Debuchy should be dropped for that display as should cisse……………oh wait a minute we ant because we have no back up and there lies the same problem as last season.
    The bench carried nothing of substance to make a game changer-Cisse although isolated did not look like he even wanted to play for this club and any prospective player interested in coming here, Like Gomis ect will no have serious misgivings about that choice !!

  • 169 Zero // Aug 20, 2013 at 5:44 AM

    Anyway im off to bed, have fun guys, hopefully ill wake up to some new threads stating Newcastle have signed Messi, or some BS about us being interested in another french striker.

    And remember it could be worse, could be a mackem.

  • 170 Magpie Myles // Aug 20, 2013 at 5:49 AM

    The main issue we have is with flair and pace.

    HBA is the only plaer we have with flair and goofy is the only one with pace. HBA got isolated and Goffy hardly touched the ball or got a pass worth running on to.

    We could do with wingers more then forwards. Cisse didn’t even have a shot, but could all be different if we had players that coukd run to the by line and get behind the defence. Our players were stagnant as well, need much more movement on the attacking front.

    Dissapointed but only one game against a devastating team.

  • 171 Santon03 // Aug 20, 2013 at 5:51 AM

    All these talks about needing new players are rubbish when all you need to do is to replace pardew then everything will be a lot better. How the fcuk he used Arsenal as an excuse for the defeat? pardew said he prepared for the game 3 days before and arsenal ruin it, what happen if Cabaye got injured within those 3 days? no plan B? If no Cabaye as central playmaker, why didn’t he play Marveaux? This guy is really getting on my nerve, excuses after excuses. he should have spent more time developing new tactics rather than interviews and making excuses.

    regarding the game last night:
    I like Dummet, he did well and he should be in front of Saylor now. Mbiwa as LB not good, but as CB he did much better job. I can’t blame Cisse, he didn’t get any help at all. Saylor was silly, but everyone does that sometime in their career. Tiote needs to keep things simple, his main job is to win the ball and give it to more creative players.

  • 172 Sydney Toon // Aug 20, 2013 at 5:54 AM

    jazzyp
    Good morning over there and afternoon here bud!
    Debuchy confuses me, has all the qualities of a great full back, is he confused with his instructions, is he trying too hard or not enough. He could be placed in the “flop” column soon if he doesn’t start playing the way he can.
    Our bench looked weak because we need reinforcements, correct on that one. But we were missing Remy as well, who may have changed something, but my point earlier of the importance of Cabaye to us. Losing him and not having somebody to come in straight away and put his stamp on the game for us obviously made it difficult. Not selecting Anita, who would be shadow player for Cabaye, straight off also was a mistake.
    I am expecting a much better performance in the next 2 games, games at home and are must win games because of the opposition. But in saying that, it all depends on Cabaye’s availability and what change Pards will make if he is without him. I would like to see Sissokho drop back and bring in Vuckic or Marveaux in the hole. We might get a lot more creativity.

  • 173 jazzyp // Aug 20, 2013 at 6:02 AM

    Afternoon sidney lol
    I think the west ham game has become massive now in respect of not just the win,but the performance as well.
    Imo mate i dont think cabs would have made any differance last night in terms of the result as city were just far to superior and became more like a training session for them.

  • 174 Sydney Toon // Aug 20, 2013 at 6:09 AM

    The hammers game is critical for Pardew and his playing intentions. Agree that Cabaye may not have made a massive difference, but when we had the ball we would have used it better IMO. Perhaps conjured a few more chances, but we ran into a red hot City team.

    But a win against West Ham will bring a few smiles back and if we can repeat it with a win to Fulham, 6 points from 3 games is a great start. Hopefully Remy will be available as well, perhaps moving back to a 442 formation or 433.
    I still think we will bring in 2-3 players, Pards has always tried to lower our expectations, which I think is a harder job than actually managing the club!

  • 175 cyprus // Aug 20, 2013 at 6:14 AM

    On AP: Dignified man, but has run out of ideas. Must go within the next four games, unless there’s a miraculous turnaround.
    On Cabs: Overrated like the rest of them. Bye. (btw, not in the Willshire, Ramsey calibre).
    On Taylor: Silver lining that he’s out for the next three games. The guy has not progressed. Should also apologise publicly. Williamson a better player.
    On the team: Can we beat Hull, Crystal Palace etc.? On the weekend’s showings, maybe yes, maybe no. We were as poor, at least.
    On our performance: Who was our best player Ed? Tough one, that, embarrassing watching that game with NUFC and Chelsea friends. Who had good or ok games? Krul, Dummett (good actually), Tiote, Jonas, even Ameobi. Terrible? Anita, Cisse etc., etc.

  • 176 89Norcal // Aug 20, 2013 at 6:16 AM

    SydneyToon

    afternoon? It’s still 10pm Monday man :)

    I don’t suppose you saw the meltdown on this blog during the match.

  • 177 thai-mag // Aug 20, 2013 at 6:20 AM

    everybody saying City are the top side because they beat us, how do we know that, their pre-season was not that good, Arsenal played them off the park their last game, and look what happened to them at the weekend, it may be that we are really bad making them look so good, we will soon find out on Saturday

  • 178 Santon03 // Aug 20, 2013 at 6:21 AM

    my money is on pardew for 1st manager to be sacked

  • 179 89Norcal // Aug 20, 2013 at 6:23 AM

    TalkSport reckon our club is in no man’s land

  • 180 Sydney Toon // Aug 20, 2013 at 6:23 AM

    89Norcal
    Well it is 3pm Tuesday here… LOL

    I have been around the blog long enough to stay away from the blog during a game we are not winning, just too heated.

    I want success just like the next toon supporter, I just have a very realistic point of view on things, comes with the territory of working in places that are stuck in time 50 years ago and you start to learn and appreciate life a whole lot better.

  • 181 Sydney Toon // Aug 20, 2013 at 6:30 AM

    thai-mag
    That was last season, Mancini had lost the title, job and his players, Arsenal were gunning for a CL spot. City took their foot off the peddle 4 games out of the end.
    It was not just because they beat us and did it so well, but it was the style and the manner of getting players like Nasri, Toure, Aguero to gel even better than before. They were unstoppable. Chelsea & MU were good, but were not as clinical and both player lesser opposition IMO.

    But you are right, and many have said this during the week. Don’t judge the team on this game, but on the next two.

    Pardew is the first favourite because he barely survived end of last season. But I think that Malkay will be first to go, Cardiff’s owner looks tough as guts and with the outlay he provided, he will be looking at other candidates quicker than most, he doesn’t look like he will drag his feet!

  • 182 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 20, 2013 at 6:34 AM

    Pardumbs excuse for sat west ham looked fresh they had more rest than us and that showed today, we were missing key players today and its hard to compete with a strong team like these.

  • 183 ilovetoon8788 // Aug 20, 2013 at 6:37 AM

    Can’t wait for January 2016! To see who is Cabaye’s replacement!

  • 184 Jail for Ashley // Aug 20, 2013 at 6:40 AM

    Well yet another unwanted Mike Ashley statistic,our heaviest opening day defeat since the PL began,can anybody think of any left or have we broken them all now,oh sh!t we play fourth division Morceambe in the league cup next week.
    And for the record TDsarf delete that stupid prediction I made yesterday.

  • 185 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 20, 2013 at 6:47 AM

    Incredibly disappointing performance. The team showed that nothing had improved from last season. Lack of movement, poor marking – what on earth were Sissoko and Tiote doing to let Silva ghost in for the first – unable to keep hold of the ball for more than 5 passes for the entire game.

    Individually, Cisse was starved, but lacked any movement or running in the channels.
    Debuchy was awful, petulant, and lacked any real indication that he had improved for his 4 months last season. It should have been a penalty in the first half when he brought down Dzeko.
    Taylor, well, standard Taylor really. I said to one of the people in the bar next to me after the ball had struck his hand and he mouthed off to Aguero that he would do something stupid. Took him less than 2 minutes to prove me right.
    Sissoko was awful, HBA other than one run was a passenger.

    Goofy was brought off, neither he nor Cisse had done much, but why not take off Cisse for Dummett? At least Goofy has pace and puts in a shift up front.

    Determination? No Alan, that was what Hull had in the second half against Chelsea.

    As for Man City being superior, of course they are, ludicrous to say otherwise. But I bet few teams will come and roll over as much as we did. 1 save from Hart and that was a 40yard shot from Tiote? We were set up for failure again.

    As for blaming Arsenal, give it a rest, I’m sure Cabaye could have played, and managed just as well as the rest did to put in an insipid display. The only reason he didn’t play was to safeguard a saleable assets fitness.We have known a bid was likely, so whose fault is it for not being prepared?

    Out of interest, where do you think the team would have differed? We played 442, as Pardew has said we were likely to this year, so would Sissoko have been dropped? Or Tiote? Would Sissoko have been used as a striker and Goofy dropped? Sissoko Left wing instead of Guti?

  • 186 thai-mag // Aug 20, 2013 at 6:53 AM

    Sydney Toon, it was last week, it was their last pre-season game, they got beat 3 1, it was on TV out here, Asrenal were all over them

  • 187 Toon73 // Aug 20, 2013 at 6:53 AM

    I have etched that 90mins from my brain.

    Next !

  • 188 89Norcal // Aug 20, 2013 at 6:55 AM

    @Sydney Toon
    lol gotta love the time difference.

    It got pretty damn bad, and everyone in the media is horribly pessimistic about us. I would imagine that clubs like WHU or Swans would get an outside chance by pundits vs. City but is was a resounding “no chance” for us.

    Let’s write it off, just this once :)

  • 189 sticklebricks // Aug 20, 2013 at 6:55 AM

    Team for West Ham:

    Krul
    Krul-Krul-Krul-Dummett
    Krul-Krul-Krul-Krul
    Arfa-Krul

  • 190 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 20, 2013 at 6:57 AM

    Sydney,,
    I think most expected us to lose to City. But the fact we still haven’t learnt to pass the ball more than 5 times in a row, still can’t create chances. Play more as individuals when it comes to defending instead of working as a unit. Capitulate so readily without fight. Constant petulance and stupidity from a number of players.

    I expected us to lose, but I wanted to see some fight, a bit of belief. All but 2 players used last night are full internationals, not from poor countries either, France, Holland, Senegal and Ivory Coast, Argentina. If we have a team of full internationals that can’t play football as a unit, then what does that say about the manager.

    As for the upcoming games, both West Ham and Fulham will make it tough for us to create anything. As we know from last year, Pardew doesn’t like playing against teams that don’t let you create chances regularly. We shall see how it goes, but I can’t envisage drastic improvements over 5 days considering there has been none in nearly 3 years.

  • 191 stuart no9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 6:59 AM

    go nufc @164 – so you didnt read his opening line to me @145 on a debate that had nothing at all to do with him .He hadnt posted all night then popped up from nowhere, butting in to someone elses debate and said that. i am never rude to anyoneon this blog . i respect other peoples opinion ( exept when they pop up from nowhere) i sayit as it is without being rude. I can dish the verbal out as much as anyone on this site if i feel someone is bang out of order – sydney was .If he cant take a verbal insult , then dont hand them out, and keep his threatening remarks to himself.

  • 192 Santon03 // Aug 20, 2013 at 7:00 AM

    Lilo

    that’s the problem, we only play to one tactic it’s 4-4-2.
    Even 4-4-2 has many different shape, but so far we only stuck to one shape of 4-4-2.
    3 days preparation is not for the match, it’s for the excuses.
    Other managers used different tactics other than 4-4-2 or change the tactic on 2nd half, different opponent different tactics. pardew is to lazy to try something new, he is sticking to what he know and it’s very limited knowledge.
    I hope JK starts to get involved, I’m getting bored with our playing style.

  • 193 Schwefelberg // Aug 20, 2013 at 7:05 AM

    Ashley perhaps invited Arsenal to bid on Monday to assist cover for very probable defeat. You know that markets are fixed. No surprise then that soccer deals are sealed months in advance.

    We will break more bad records for sure.

    Which club has gone longest in EPL history with no corner goal?

    We already have two worst seasons in our history with Ashley. Who would not say to make three this season?

    Consecutive losses to London clubs.

    Shortest times of opposition first goal.

    I think we’ll break hundreds.

  • 194 stuart no9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 7:12 AM

    sydney @167′ igave the firsxt shot and you finished it off hahaha , you got it upside down mate ( no pun intended) your opening shot to me was @145 ‘take aload off” you can check it if you want, i hadnt heard of you before that. then you finished it off??haha dont flatter yourself

  • 195 nut meg // Aug 20, 2013 at 7:33 AM

    We’ve lost the same as all the other clubs who didn’t win a game this week-end …….3 POINTS. Cabaye & every other player were bought cheap to sell at a big profit………we all KNOW that.We may be a ok team but we’ll never be a great one as long as this club is run by Ashley because we don’t buy the type of players we really need,we buy decent cheap players who we can sell at a good profit.We need this type of player for starters.

    http://www.football-oranje.com/eredivisie-player-of-round-3-dusan-tadic/

  • 196 Dragon64 // Aug 20, 2013 at 8:13 AM

    Who was best play threads come on ed do we really eyed to be asked?
    What we need is a owner who will back his manager, but we don’t if cashley is looking to sell why not just come out and tell us what is going on and the reasons we have no new players. Something is going on. As a business man he will no if we go down again he is screwd big time and if we lose are next game god help him.
    People blame cashley but let’s not forget the hall’s and Shepard who sold the club to him a man who didn’t check all the books to a company will get what he deserves hatred from 50,000 Geordies

  • 197 Sydney Toon // Aug 20, 2013 at 9:20 AM

    Stuart
    Take a load off means to relax down here, not sure what it means up your way. There was no insult intended so I apologise for my reaction.

  • 198 NUFCarter // Aug 20, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gSFEaI4HdA

    This is what we need. someone to stand up to the club on a viral video in the hope it can go straight to Mike Ashleys head.




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