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Newcastle In For Top England U21 Winger

11:38 pm, Tuesday, August 20th, 2013 by Ed Harrison · 178 Comments

It seems that Newcastle are now willing to meet Blackpool’s price of £8M for highly rated Blackpool winger Tom Ince.

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Tom Ince – Newcastle target

But the news in the Mirror is that Newcastle will only bid for Ince, if they sell Yohan Cabaye, and of course Tom is not a like for like replacement for Yohan Cabaye

If Newcastle do sell the Frenchman, they must, with the emphasis on must, replace him with a top central midfielder.

The bad news is that Tottenham are now interested in the England U21 International, and that’s what happens when you delay moving in for a target, other clubs will become interested.

And the Mirror is reporting that Paul Ince, Tom’s famous father and former Manchester United and England midfielder, wants his son to move to a club where he will get regular playing time.

That gives Newcastle an advantage, because it’s more likely he will get more playing time at Newcastle, because our squad is not as strong as the Tottenham squad.

It seems that Newcastle are willing to sell Yohan Cabaye, but only at the right price, and that’s at least £20M.

But it looks like the Tyneside club may be planning on how to use the money they will get for Cabaye,  and we could be in for multiple players.

But if the last nine weeks is anything to go by, and the snail’s pace at which Joe Kinnear appears to have carried out Newcastle’s transfer business, we’ll be lucky to sign one player never mind multiple players, and that’s whether we sell Yohan Cabaye or not.

We’d like to be proved wrong on that.

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178 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    Ed you’re killing me here, every time I post an passionate comment you make a new thread! haha

    Beattie

    I don’t see myself as enlightened, I don’t see myself as having an opinion that is superior to anyone else’s, I know there will be Newcastle fans the world over, Geordies and Gentiles alike who feel exactly the same way I do.

    I will have no problem standing in a room full of Geordies, with my staunch Irish accent, and telling people how disgusted I am with the disintegration of our great football club, but that they, the blinded sheep who trudge into SJP to “support” the team are part of the problem!

    Every time you buy a piece of club merchandise, every time you buy a ticket for a match, every time you renew a season ticket, you are not supporting this football club, you are feeding the very life form that is killing it.

    Until Jabba the Hut is starved of his financial sustenance, he will continue to consume this club whole, and have the blinkered masses under his wing, laughing all the way to the bank while he does it.

    Time to wake up, take action and reclaim our bloody club back.

    I may be ranting but I am seething and hurt right now.

  • 2 MacToon // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    To be honest Ruddy, this “supporting the team, fighting the regime” phrase, I’ve been trying to get them to change it to “Support the team by fighting the regime”
    Going to matches is not helping NUFC but I do understand why people are still going.

  • 3 Rooster // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:44 PM

    It would be a start, but if Cabaye goes money has to be spent in a hurry, Gomis then Ince, then Micah Richards as USAGEORDIE pointed out, then a real top quality centre midfield man to replace YOHAN.

    Yea I know “not a prayer” im like Augustus Gloop out of WILLY WONKA, ha ha.

  • 4 nufc786 // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2398494/Newcastle-consider-bids-Bafetimbi-Gomis-Yoann-Gourcuff.html

    Pardew, who is desperate to add a striker, is also weighing up a move for Blackpool’s Tom Ince while club scouts also went to the Czech Republic to watch Maribor winger Agim Ibraimi against Viktoria Plezen. Ibriami, a 24-year-old Macedonia international, is available for around £3million.

  • 5 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    As for 3 in by Saturday, does it really matter? By the looks of it we will be minus another with the sale of Cabaye, one of those 3 will likely be Gomis who is not exactly what we need, and the other two, even if they are excellent forward thinking signings, will inevitably regress under Pardew’s inept management which is a symptom of an insidious ownership.

    See, good news is never good news in Newcastle United.

  • 6 Beattie25 // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    http://twitter.com/wackojacko_d/status/369938995113103360/photo/1

  • 7 Beattie25 // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    Lets look at some evidence and try and grasp why Pards and co. are in France.

    A plane left Manchester airport at 8:05 this morning to Nice. I presume that’s what Pardew was on.

    It arrives in France at 11:15 am their time and he then has the option to either speak to Nice or Monaco.

    He flies back to Newcastle at half 10ish their time which is durning the latter stages of the Lyon game. A second plane flying to London is due to take off 30 minutes later.

    There were 4 men photographed together. Pardew, Kinnear, Carr and a bald bloke. Pardew and the bold bloke (whom I think is an interpreter) leave for Newcastle and Carr/Kinnear stay behind in the departure lounge to most likely fly to London.

    What could this all mean? I deduce we’ve been in discsussions with either Nice or Monaco (most likely Monaco) to try and sign a player or to get a player as part exchange for Cabaye.

    Kinnear is there as DoF, Carr is there as chief scout and Pardew is there as manager to try and sell the club to this player.

    Detective Beattie25 reporting for duty.

  • 8 MacToon // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    He means 3 rounds in by Saturday, Dr’s orders, he has to take it easy.

  • 9 Shearer.Milburn // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    Finally being linked with talent… would have been better bidding for these players before we had our trousers pulled down and spanked by city.

  • 10 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    MacToon

    Exactly, the regime are the ones killing the team, by financially supporting the regime through going to matches, they are ensuring that the team will suffer.

    Going to matches does more for their own conscience than it does for the team. 52,000 Geordie support on a weekly basis didn’t keep us from getting stuffed by Liverpool 6-0 did it? Or Sunderland 3-0?

    Going to the match does NOT make the team perform better. Going to the match only lines the pockets of the regime and makes the supporter feel good about him or herself.

    Time to get over ourselves and truly take action to get our club out of the shit people

  • 11 wolfshead@toon // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2398544/PSG-ready-thwart-Arsene-Wenger-offering-20m-Arsenal-target-Yohan-Cabaye.html

  • 12 Beattie25 // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    Mactoon

    100% correct.

    It’s the worst tagline in all of history.

    “Support the team, not the regime”.

    It’s like people saying “support British Farmers by shopping at Tesco, but don’t support the massive corporations”.

    It’s like eh? It doesn’t make sense.

  • 13 soundoid // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    This club has been hijacked by Idiots and until the ransom is paid we’ll never be well.

  • 14 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:53 PM

    Soundoid from previous thread,

    Thanks for the kind words, but don’t discount the Stewie Griffin voice just yet, after all, victory will be mine!

    SlatyMag

    Bold proposal, logistically could be insanely difficult to pull off, but even if we did it once, had an empty SJP and had the crowd watching the match in a neutral venue as a sign of protest it would be mammoth, but the effect wouldn’t be long lasting until we have attendances averaging lower than 40,000 on a weekly basis.

  • 15 Beattie25 // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:53 PM

    Ruddy

    I agree with every word but it needs to go further.

    We need to boycott all Mike Ashley money making schemes and also target Wonga.

    I’d love to be a member of Anonymous (the Internet hackers for those who don’t know) and take down the system.

    We need wiki leaks on this mo fo.

  • 16 lesh // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    The club’s so-called /mangement are planning on how to use the money they will get for Cabaye,

    Surely we’re not so skintc?

  • 17 Black and White with an army lol // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    is Cabaye on Ebay i’m thinking about joining the bidding war

  • 18 Beattie25 // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    The club needs to have empty stadiums for home games and massive numbers for away games.

    Imagine 10 000 at home and then 20 000 turning up away.

    That would show the players we support them but not the regime.

  • 19 soundoid // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    Ruddy are you on twitter?

  • 20 MacToon // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    Already said it’ll be interesting to meet you Ruddy and think you might enjoy what we’ve done and doing in our capacity, Fansutd has been a good forum for us to date but things are moving at a rapid rate atm.
    Thing I’ve found though is “it” can’t be done well or successfully over night and this can frustrate people.

  • 21 beddersmag // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    Ruddy

    Home support improves your chances of winning which is why every year most teams have far better home records. More fans the better too. If people stop going it will hinder the team. In terms of taking money from the club, and that aspect alone, i suspect ashley is not one of our worst owners e.g. he is only taking back what is his. Someone posted earlier that shephard, hall etc took over 40m. This is life rich people make money. Not saying his other actions have not been terrible btw but starving him out is detimental as his fortunes and the clubs are intertwined now unfortunately.

  • 22 Black and White with an army lol // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    guys i think we will also need some help as well, and i’m thinking about going over Thai land to those poor ppl working for MA for pennies and convince them into a revolt lol surely his business will go bust ;)

  • 23 Beattie25 // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:59 PM

    Mactoon

    I bet opposition from our own fans sets us back also?

  • 24 soundoid // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:01 AM

    beddersmag,

    I agree to an extent but protracted long term waining of interest is more damaging. What we need is a short sharp shock.

  • 25 MacToon // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:02 AM

    That list of Ashley’s chaotic history I posted last thread, it reached 2,500 people in last 2 hours. Internet’s such a powerful tool in the correct hands.

  • 26 Sazzer // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:02 AM

    It looks likes Carr is doing some airport “scouting” as well:
    https://twitter.com/Sewellyy/status/369902438545129472/photo/1

  • 27 Slatymag // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    Got to make NOT going to the match a social event, not just staying at home and watching on telly.

    Hoying it up again

    Total boycott for a match. Rent giant screens and show the match on the town moor. I’m sure with plenty of notice the council would sanction this and help with organising/policing as long as they could remain “neutral”. Views of a completely empty SJP with thousands adjacent would be such a sight that I imagine it would make the news almost everywhere they report football.

    I fully understand this is a grand proposal and would take some pulling off but it would serve the dual purpose of media friendly protest and satisfy the social event of a match day.

    Thinking big. Too big?

    Obviously everyone would have to put their hand in their pocket

  • 28 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    For every Newcastle fan out there intending on going to the home match against West Ham this weekend I implore you to think again.

    You may think you are supporting the team but you are not. Your voice did not prevent the disastrous home defeats to Reading, Swansea, West Ham, Sunderland, Liverpool, or the umpteen other mediocre displays we rolled out onto our hallowed turf last season and your voice will not count this weekend either.

    As long as your voice is inside St James’ Park “supporting” the team, then Newcastle United will remain as it is, a crushed, shattered, pathetic version of its former self. Bring your voice where it matters, to the street, advocating boycotts, encouraging NUFC fans that the only way forward for the club is to take a step backwards from it.

    The players are paid professionals, they will understand if we refuse to turn up, they will understand that this regime has not been good enough, they understand that this management is poor.

    In your heart of hearts, you know it’s the right thing to do for the sake of our club.

  • 29 Beattie25 // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    MacToon

    Why not organise an online flash mob targeting the twitter accounts of nufc, sports direct and wonga.

    Thousands of people all tweeting at once would trend worldwide and garner lots of attention.

    I agree that the Internet is a magnificent tool and should be utilised.

  • 30 Mancgeordie // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    Ok 20m for cabaye and Gomis, Ince Thauvin in yeah I would settle for that. Oh and Pardew out and Poyet in

  • 31 numba9 // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    Go to his big depot near Mansfield and tell all the eastern Europeans to boycott work more like. He promised the jobs there to English workers but it ended up like doing the cheaper option and got poles etc in . He helps the country too lol

  • 32 MacToon // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    Beattie, you are not wrong and I still respect people who still go to the match, even if they don’t buy the beer, burgers, programmes etc. it all counts to a degree but ideally I think you are right…. boycott!
    TV money is really effecting the strength of the fan base. I posted the other day that our game v Man U last season was the 4th most viewed premiership game of the season. That’s why Ashley’s here imho, £££’s.

  • 33 Beattie25 // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    Nufcstats on twitter just posted this:

    @NUFC_Stats: Since NUFC have returned to the Premier League (2010), they have had a total of 28 incoming and 67 outgoing transfers (Via @OBB_9) #nufc

  • 34 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    MacToon

    This season, I feel, will see the grumbling voice of dissent turn into a giant roar, and as long as we’re mobilised in the sense that we can give these dissenting voices of malcontent a vehicle to turn their angst into action, then we will be more than ready to take on this regime and take back our club.

  • 35 MacToon // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:07 AM

    Slatymag, it all costs money. You wouldn’t believe the logistics on planning a march let alone the cost but great idea by the way.

  • 36 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    Soundoid

    Literally just joined Twitter today, and have posted 2 tweets, but it will get much more active in the days and weeks ahead.

    It’s @CiaranDonaghy2

  • 37 soundoid // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    Slatymag,

    That is not a bad idea I work in the events industry and nothing is happening this time of year so video walls are cheap. Find a northeast company with NUFC leanings and you could get them for free. Try R&B I think??? I

  • 38 beddersmag // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:09 AM

    Guys on boycotting games. My numbers might be way off here, sure someone will correct me, but we are apparently geting an extra £30-35m from sky this year. Im told we make around £1m from a 50,000 attendance home game. We could literally have no crowd at any home games and under the new sky payments we would still be far better off than last year surely?

  • 39 kevymartins // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:09 AM

    @7 Beattie, as soon as MA get’s a sniff of the big money for Cabs the private planes and helicopters are out.

  • 40 Beattie25 // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    Ruddy

    I’m not going on another match or buying new merchandise until he is gone.

    Something grander needs to happen and happen soon.

    A minutes silence throughout the stadium in the 9th minute to mourn nufc perhaps?

  • 41 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    Beddersmag

    I know that a boycott will financially harm Newcastle United, which is now essentially Mike Ashley. By letting Mike know that he cannot benefit financially from Newcastle United without providing us with a proper management structure willing to drastically improve our on field performances we can send an incredibly strong message.

    As it stands, Mike Ashley is content to see us do poorly in the PL, he doesn’t need us to be pushing top 6, or even top 10. As long as we are in the league he will make a bloody fortune and we’re contributing!

    If we hit him (and inevitably the club) in the pocket, we can force him to either sell up, or to change his whole approach to owning this football club. Either way, something has got to give, we cannot accept this any longer!

  • 42 ONLINE GUY // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    Looks like we are about to add to our French contingent

    Joe K has flew out to France this evening, sent by Pardew, to tie up the signing of
    Maurice Chevalier.

    His position is upper tenor/mid ..s’cuse my Latin … Check him out on utube, u-tube.

  • 43 Blackley and Brownlie // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    Mike has kept match days affordable unlike some of the big billionaire owners.

  • 44 Tinman // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    Let’s not get too carried away folks, I have nothing against protesting and demonstrations, just make sure you do it all safely and legally.

  • 45 beddersmag // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    Numba9

    You need to pay poles as much as british mate. National minimum wage

  • 46 MacToon // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:12 AM

    Ruddy, I’ve been going to the fansutd meeting from the start, about 2 years now and some of the die hard-always go to every game fans at these meets have changed their tune and I am shocked and surprised at some of their reactions.. Still time in this window to slow the discontent but it’s growing by the minute.

  • 47 Beattie25 // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:12 AM

    Bedders

    Every little helps.

    Ashley and his accountants will have accounted for that money. Boycotting will scupper his financial plans.

    It may only be a drop in the ocean but it still creates a ripple.

  • 48 Beattie25 // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:14 AM

    Blackley

    He is credited for that but it is the only way to ensure packed stadiums.

    It’s based more on the economic climate of the region more than any charity on his part.

    If we were a London club they’d be excessive.

  • 49 kevymartins // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:14 AM

    @Beattie just seen the pic mate. Something must be going down. Someone must be coming our way for Pards to be over. Javier Pastore or someone in a part exchange maby?

  • 50 wolfshead@toon // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    ashleys buying new players to placate the fans he obv senses trouble brewing hes pretty smart in one way i spose

  • 51 Slatymag // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    As much as a cliche it is unity really is the key. Even if the idea, whatever it is, does not appeal to everyone it has got to be agreed upon by all Ashley Out sympathisers therefore I reckon it has got to be something enjoyable. My take on it anyway. Something that everyone can partake in therefore the message EVERYONE wants Ashley out!

  • 52 MacToon // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:16 AM

    Hope you’ve followed Mike_Ashley_Out on twitter. Was speaking to the lad who helps run the twitter account and sounds like he’s got a local paper on side. Small things like that can make big differences.

  • 53 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    MacToon

    What do you think this trip to France has been about? Had we performed well last night, or even nabbed a draw, they wouldn’t be signing anyone.

    By signing one or maybe even two players, they are trying to create a diversionary tactic to appease the masses and keep them on board, and more importantly, keep them going to matches.

    We need to call this coward out for what he is and do so on a consistent basis.

  • 54 Schwefelberg // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    Good work Mactoon

    Don’t forget Ashley’s low blow about it wasn’t safe to take his child to match because of fear of attacks.

    Also they have attached us to another gambling parasite 138? I can’t remember the name — thankfully.

  • 55 numba9 // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:18 AM

    Min hour contracts no sick or holiday pay the guy does it all wrong or should I say sh1t on what ever he considers below him sure he would get around paying them less than minimum wage also. My ex girlfriend worked at sd going back a good ten years or so and had to buy the uniform out her first wage off him also nought hour contracts and poor pay he wreeeeeks

  • 56 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:21 AM

    @Mike_Ashley_Out is the address lads and lasses, if you want to make a difference, let’s get behind the appropriate vehicles for change, one person by himself is an island, but together we’re an Empire!

  • 57 MacToon // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:21 AM

    Ashley always seems to do just enough to keep enough fans onside so I think this trip is to do just that. I hear we’re after loans only which might mean there’s an offer on the table, might not too though.

  • 58 Schwefelberg // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:21 AM

    Also never accomodate a parasite by using their terms and names. Its WRONGA.

  • 59 Slatymag // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:22 AM

    I agree that my idea would not be cheap, far from it, but the dual enjoyment of a protest and carnival type atmosphere could be something that people wouldn’t mind paying for. Marches have been done. Lets think big, we are trying to unseat a billionaire. Think massive. We are NUFC!

  • 60 MacToon // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:22 AM

    Think you have a new follower Ruddy, told you this twitter lad is sharp ;-)

  • 61 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:23 AM

    Lads,

    Whilst I admire the will to do good, The love for the Toon will always outgrow any hatred towards a certain regime.

    We will never see an empty St James Park I believe.

    I think we are stuck with Mike until he is good and ready.

    I do think he realises he is on should we say borrowed time now and can’t really keep this circus ongoing making error after error. He is well aware he’s upsetting a city here and a hell of alot of people.

    Rangers is his next port of call. As soon as a buyer is found for us.

    Hopefully this will not take too long.

  • 62 Beattie25 // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:23 AM

    Apparently (according to the same lad that said Kinnear said “3 in by Saturday”) there was a board meeting with Mike Ashley on Ashley’s boat in St. Tropez.

  • 63 MacToon // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    Slaty, I totally agree, think big and go for the jugular.

  • 64 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    Prodigy

    Love for the club means going to the game and supporting the regime that is killing it?

    That’s as poor as the excuse of the beaten up girlfriend who always threatens to leave her partner because of how badly he treats her but never does because she feels that no one loves her like he does and that he’s just misunderstood.

    How can you claim to love the club yet financially contribute to the man making a mockery of it?

  • 65 stu mel // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    I’m as unsettle as everybody else but come on is Ashley killing people no he making a mockery of a football club, you all sound nuts like your going to fight this injustice god it’s mad the passion on here could start a revolution against I football club, please bigger picture and all that I new flash everybody get screwed daily one way or another but we get stirred to the point of reaction only by a bad owner of a club,
    This world doesn’t work

  • 66 AaranD // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    With Sky i think its £30 million now and another £30 million at the end of the season.

    That’s how smaller teams have been able to splash a bit. Where as ours has more than likely gone into repaying Ashley back.

  • 67 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    MacToon

    I noticed that, these lads are on the ball. Anyone else who wants to follow me/give me twitter abuse it’s CiaranDonaghy2 ;)

    I do like plugging myself haha

  • 68 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:29 AM

    Stu Mel

    Some people care about this football club, about its short term and long term future, it’s a matter of pride, of seeing something that once made you beam with joy, suddenly, through the machinations of a money hungry locust, turn it into something to be ashamed of, to feel apathetic towards, something that we no longer seem to care about.

    Passion is good, passion shows that there is still some fight left to turn this around.

  • 69 USAGEORDIE // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    Jordy Clasie would be a good replacement CM. Cheap, creative, and only 22.

  • 70 MacToon // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    I know for a fact ( ha ha hate using that word) but during the keegan protests Llambias was livid about talk of boycott. He and Ashley disbanded the singing section because of the anti -regime chanting and the following season fans were ejected from the stadium for voicing their discontent with the owner.
    Every little thing does have an effect and don’t think it doesn’t matter.

    The game on Monday, we didn’t take up the full allocation of seats, rare occurance and there were chanting of discontent too. It’s building up but Ashley will try to estinguish it by doing just enough this window I think, nothing more. We’ve become premiership survivors under Ashley, nothing more and he’s even failed at this task already.

  • 71 Black and White with an army lol // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    like iv’e said many times guys we are UNITED for a reason.

  • 72 musomag // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    We should offer a double deal for Thomas AND his dad, we could do with a boss in midfield

  • 73 Beattie25 // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:33 AM

    If Spurs get Lamela I’m going to be sick.

    We were equal to them when Ashley took over. They finished one place above us and we used to spank them regular.

    I think they’ll be title contenders soon if they get Willian and Coaentrao too.

    God damn you Ashley straight to hell.

  • 74 Jackel001 // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:34 AM

    Prodigy

    Agree 100% there mate.

    Beattie
    Were they all p!ssed on champaz and laughing their t!ts off at the result last night too?

  • 75 Slatymag // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:34 AM

    I wonder if good old Ed could put up a link on his site so visitors don’t have to rely on people posting links. The same goes with Newcastle online, NUFC.com etc ?

    The website for Ashley Out, maybe not twitter as a large portion of fans may not tweet, could be solely for debate and votes while all other websites can continue with their news, match reviews…

  • 76 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    B and W with an army

    Unite for the right reason, don’t just unite with fans by going to football matches because you think it is beneficial for the team. What if, in fact, it is more beneficial for the club for you to unite with fans outside SJP, protest and boycott with us.

    MacToon

    Let’s turn the screw, and push a boycott. Let’s be standing by the box office during the week, warning people off buying tickets, let’s be standing there on match day telling people not to be going to the match. Let’s light a fuse that cannot be put out until the fat man implodes upon his own sense of invincibility and f*cks off out of our club.

  • 77 MacToon // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    I noticed an extra 45 likes on the Mike Ashley Out Campaign facebook page since I posted the link here so I assume some here are interested and good on you.

  • 78 wolfshead@toon // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    if we win the next 2 games it will all melt away

  • 79 Schwefelberg // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    Quintus Fabius Maximus!!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_strategy

  • 80 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    Ruddy,

    Thats NUFC.

    Even when we went down to the Championship we were amassing 40,000 people at home games and filling out our away seats.

    We live for football in this city, Its an addiction people will not give up.

    Everyone is well aware we are on the road to nowhere under Ashley but still we turn up in droves because we are NUFC.

  • 81 Black and White with an army lol // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    MacToon

    i have over 300+ friends on FB who are all NUFC supporters so expect a lot of likes mate

  • 82 jimmysmith // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:40 AM

    I wouldn’t object to getting Ince and Gomis in as exchange for Cabs because I think we do have pretty good cover in the middle of the park with Anita, Sissoko, Tiote, Gutierrez and Marv and the addition of those two players would give us a more balanced look.

    By the way, Spurs are in for Willian at 30 mill which would bring their spending to over 90 mill for the summer, just as a point of perspective.

  • 83 Beattie25 // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    Jacke

    Wouldn’t be surprised.

  • 84 NUFC STEVE // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    Cabaye plus 10 mil = 30 mil WHO WOULD U BUY?
    Gomis- 8mil
    Ince-8mil
    Thauvin-10mil (loan deal would suit better)
    Alderweireld- 5mil
    Top business although a centre mid wud be nice!!

  • 85 MacToon // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    Black and White, good on ya mate. I know there are plans but wolfshead is right, a few wins and it settles down, a purchase or two and it’ll settle down but there will be people in the background constantly working away fighting to help improve the state of our club.

    The club’s fansforum is the next new addition, will be interesting to see how it will be implemented and if the club try to stop some people from attending even though they may have a legitimate reason for being there.

  • 86 Rooster // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    Ukn hell there was a Blue Moon last night at 9.45, maybe we did tie up the transfers of Gomis n Ince n wijnaldum n Richards n gourcouff n Alderwiereld.

    This is Augustus Gloop reporting again from the Moon, which by the by as we all know is made of cheese!!!

  • 87 Shearer.Milburn // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    Jimmysmith

    all spurs have to do is sell bale and they get 100m back

  • 88 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    Prodigy

    That is no longer something to be proud of.

    It is Stockholm Syndrome, these fans are not benefiting the club, they are indulging their own habit/need/desire/agenda/sense of self importance/duty insert whatever you wish to describe it.

    If you willingly go to SJP, pay money to a regime that is killing this club then, in my opinion, you’re, in a small way, part responsible for this club’s demise. It is only by refusing to stump up the cash, by refusing to accept this abuse any more will we ever hope to change, grow and re-develop.

    It starts with the fans, if the fans won’t help to save the club, then the club is destined for mediocrity, and as such have no right to complain simply because they pay their money, in fact they have no right to complain as a result of paying their money!

  • 89 toonicle // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    If we were to bring him in then I don’t think a striker is top priority anymore, spend 15mil or so on a Cabaye replacement.

  • 90 NUFC STEVE // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:52 AM

    2nd question who could replace Cabaye???
    Halilovic, seb Rudy, Maher, Mc Carthy, chantome,
    Gonna be tough??
    If no thauvin or ince for the wings Juan Bernat or Wijnaldum would be excellent.

  • 91 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:52 AM

    I think that’ll do it for tonight folks. Only came on to share an opinion or two and ended up a bit William Wallace in places…

    Support the club whichever way you see fit, but financially contributing to this regime, in any capacity, is only damaging the long term security of Newcastle United.

  • 92 Slatymag // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:52 AM

    Well I’ve had enough for one night. If someone comes up with a good idea then I hope it catches on.

    I still think television views over SJP showing it completely empty while thousands are enjoying themselves watching the match almost right outside would be awesome. Difficult to organise but would make for some iconic images of protest.

  • 93 Beattie25 // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:53 AM

    Steve

    Diego Capel – £6 million
    Jeffren – £5 million
    Lacine Traore – £8 million

    2 wingers who can cross and a big CF.

    Sorted

  • 94 MacToon // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:58 AM

    I’ll certainly put your idea forward Slaty but honestly some task to empty the stadium and get permission from the council, police coverage etc. but great idea.

  • 95 NUFC STEVE // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:59 AM

    Good shout on Traore but I think we all want to see better football not worse? Who to replace Cab?

  • 96 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 21, 2013 at 12:59 AM

    Ruddy,

    Im just trying to be realistic.

    It’s not just a case of “not turning up to watch a game”.

    This is a life long passion. It’s a part of peoples daily lives, It’s a built in mechanism.

    It may well do good if he up and left, but stopping Geordies watching the Toon at St James park is going to be extremely difficult.

    Think heroin and a smackhead. We will turn a blindeye to any regime so long as we get our fix.

  • 97 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 21, 2013 at 1:05 AM

    And like I’ve no sympathy for a smackhead, I’ve no sympathy for any Newcastle United fan who goes to SJP.

    The next time I hear someone complain about Ashley or Pardew I will ask “do you go to SJP?” and if he responds “Yes” my answer will be “then don’t!”

    If you don’t like it, you’ve the power to change, stop feeling sorry for yourself and do something about it would be my message, for crying out loud.

    Why are people so ready to take systematic abuse simply because it’s a habit. That’s what victims of domestic abuse do, are we akin to those thought processes?

  • 98 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 21, 2013 at 1:06 AM

    Prodigy

    Anyway, I’m knackered and off to bed. Night lad.

  • 99 Slatymag // Aug 21, 2013 at 1:06 AM

    No need to empty the stadium as no one enters in the first place was my idea. Council already have an agenda against Ashley after all his cockups. Could feasibly have a lot more than 50,000 attend spread safely out over the moor.

    Like you say – some task but hopefully peaceful and a massive statement which would garner sympathy and support worldwide.

    Right, I’m really off now. I’ll check in tomorrow to see if anyone’s booked the pre match entertainment.

  • 100 stavros // Aug 21, 2013 at 1:08 AM

    I’d like to thank the people who go to the matches week in week out. I don’t understand those who judge them while typing with the wit such certainty that they know better.

    Last season we won 2 games away from home. It’s all well and good saying the fans didn’t help them when we got stuffed off Sunderland and Liverpool but the point becomes invalid when you bother to look at the 9 games we won.

    It will hurt him when we get relegated and he puts us into administration but while he is watching his new team and enjoying his billions, the fans that you judge will have too turn out to watch Blyth Spartans.

    How do you think we’ll interest a new chairman, director of football, manager and quality players with an empty stadium?

  • 101 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 21, 2013 at 1:09 AM

    Goodnite Ruddy.

  • 102 AaranD // Aug 21, 2013 at 1:12 AM

    Anita can replace Cabs, in my opinion same type of player.
    Wingers, striker, some defensive cover and an attacking midfielder are what we need right now.
    Also thought we’d have dipped in for some younger talent this summer.

  • 103 stu mel // Aug 21, 2013 at 1:13 AM

    I like the fight mate, I just feel it would be better aimed at let say actual domestic abbuse
    Night Rudy
    It is actual inspiring in a wired way thu keep it up

  • 104 stu mel // Aug 21, 2013 at 1:18 AM

    By that I ment fight for people who live in hell each day. Not suggesting that you and your over half had a fight or anything lol

  • 105 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 21, 2013 at 1:19 AM

    On the subject of Tom Ince, I think I’d pass and get Scott Sinclair in for a couple of million less.

    In an ideal world I’d have both, but I know Im getting ahead of myself.

    There is just something about this Scott Sinclair, I really think he will do OK at NUFC.

  • 106 ronjohno // Aug 21, 2013 at 1:24 AM

    I would be amazed if Ince joins Toon.

    Cannot imagine his dad Paul giving him any encouragement to join our unsavoury set-up.

  • 107 2_goal_tino // Aug 21, 2013 at 1:34 AM

    I love the way that the vast majority of people who support a complete boycott of games are the people who live miles away from the city and don’t go to games week in week out. They say ‘we need to hit MA where it hurts, and stop going’ when in reality it means nothing changes for them. They continue to watch the games in their homes on tv or the internet.

    Ruddy- you say you’re moving to Newcastle in the coming weeks. Presumably, part of the attraction was Newcastle United. If in 6 months time, when you’ve been in the city for a while and you’re still promoting a boycott, then I may listen to you. Until that point I don’t believe you actually have a true understanding of just how important football is to Geordies and just how significant the ritual of a matchday is.

  • 108 toonfogg // Aug 21, 2013 at 1:43 AM

    Evening folks my first ever post on here so here goes.hopefully I won’t upset any one but it has to said. people posting”we get rid of pardew and then get someone like Hiddink or DiMateo” sorry it ain’t gonna happen.just after JFK took the job Talksport played an interview from last summer. In the interview JFK spoke about getting back into football management and that he would take a DOF role then when he felt the manager wasn’t doing his job he would move them on and move into the position himself. Have to be careful what you wish for. Am not a Pardew fan but am definitely against JFK taking the job. Ashley OUT.

  • 109 Tommyy // Aug 21, 2013 at 2:08 AM

    Guys, I’m loving this! This is exactly what we need, the passion and will to change things! I’ve followed all the groups and added my number. But as a fan from afar (I only make 5 – 10 games a season, mostly away games) what more can I do? I’m willing and keen to join the ranks. Lets get this rolling.

  • 110 Zebras4Life // Aug 21, 2013 at 2:36 AM

    Oh boy!!! Love to see him get over the line

  • 111 Novocastrian66 // Aug 21, 2013 at 2:59 AM

    Ruddy; how can you actively support a boycott when you don’t attend regularly anyway? What sacrifice are you going to make to change the regime?
    Don’t come on here preaching the gospel according to saint Ruddy when you’re not do anything yourself to demonstrate your dislike of the current ownership. Shit stirring and hypocrisy I think.

  • 112 AmericanGeordie // Aug 21, 2013 at 3:33 AM

    Even if we sell Cabaye, I agree with many posters here that we need a striker and some attacking, speedy wingers? If we are to play with the ball on the floor in AP’s 4-2-3-1, then these positions need reinforced. In fact, I’m certain that Jonas & Marveuax are best suited as central mids, and that might be Ben Arfa’s best spot, too.

    Here we are 3 deep with central midfielders in a 4-2-3-1:

    AM: Ben Arfa
    HM: Sissoko
    HM: Anita

    AM: Marveaux
    HM: Gosling
    HM: Tiote

    AM: Vukic
    HM: Bigi
    HM: Jonas

  • 113 Toon-Prodigy // Aug 21, 2013 at 3:44 AM

    I’v expected Cabaye to be away all window if im honest. I’v said simce the start of the window about how we are waiting for a bid for Cabaye to kickstart our spending.

    We all need to remember under this regime we are a stepping stone club for ambitious players.

    We have a two year lifeline with all players that come through the door and do well at NUFC.

    If Ben Arfa had did just aswell he would be gone also. He is here only because of the injuries he has suffered. Everyone we buy, we are looking to sell within 2-3 years at a maximum, they all get five year deals. That is great financially but it is no basis for footballing ambition. Which we are all beginning to realise now.

    Until Mike swaps the Toon for Rangers to advertise Sports Direct we are doomed for all things football.

    It’s all filtering right through the club down to the players on the park.

    Who wants to be at a club with no anbition?

    This is all disastrous and far from healthy.

  • 114 Sav // Aug 21, 2013 at 3:54 AM

    Before they blow whatever Cabaye cash Mashley leaves in small change on dodgy forwards we need to talk about a good, big aggressive centreback with a brain to complement Colo. Taylor is just not good enoughand terriofied of haviong the ball at his feet and Yanga isn’t big enough although he may eventually be Colo’s replacement. For now, he needs to be our full-back. I’m also fed up with the bad positions and rash decisions of Debuchy. He can follow Cabs oot the door.
    It’ll be Cabaye from him and ‘bye from him too.

  • 115 fancysoccer // Aug 21, 2013 at 4:18 AM

    That gives Newcastle an advantage, because it’s more likely he will get more playing time at Newcastle, because our squad is not as strong as the Tottenham squad.

    Tottenham will sell Bale,that’s a big deal,and the money will help Tottenham to a higher place.

  • 116 p // Aug 21, 2013 at 4:31 AM

    Anyone have any ideas who we might be in for other than gomis in light of jfk, pardew and co being spotted at nice airport?

  • 117 p // Aug 21, 2013 at 4:37 AM

    Btw, happy to see cabaye go, did not step up when collo was out and clearly has mental issues.

    I think arsenal would make a mistake signing him, could be wrong but he would probably be better off at psg

  • 118 alienhunter // Aug 21, 2013 at 4:39 AM

    Gomis and Thauvin apparently. I imagine all french agents are based in Monaco due to tax reasons, and this is why they are in that neck of the woods.

  • 119 p // Aug 21, 2013 at 5:18 AM

    They would be good signings in isolation but i do think we have too many frenchies

  • 120 jazzyp // Aug 21, 2013 at 5:30 AM

    Morning guys any news on prospective transfer targets ???.
    Personally as probably already stated, I don’t think 2-3 players will make that much difference for what is happening at Nufc at the moment. You could clearly see half the squad did not even want to play against city. would any other top club in the PL accept performances from there players like that without them being dropped to the bench………but then again we have no choice as we have no depth in the team.

  • 121 Santon03 // Aug 21, 2013 at 5:53 AM

    Gourcuff, yes please!!

    I rather have Gourcuff than Gomis, he couldn’t live up to his tag “new Zidane” while he was at Milan.
    Hopefully if we do get him, he can be great again like HBA after moving to NUFC.

  • 122 Santon03 // Aug 21, 2013 at 5:59 AM

    I do think we need player(s) like Gattuso or Barton character on the field not off the field. They play with their hearts and they can inspire others and inject their fighting spirits to the rest of the team like 4-4 against arsenal.

  • 123 stu mel // Aug 21, 2013 at 6:08 AM

    True we need a Nolan and a Barton some grit

  • 124 toonbrother // Aug 21, 2013 at 6:17 AM

    WE need a central defender to replace coloshitty \and a midfielder to replace yohan kebab not another winger

  • 125 Santon03 // Aug 21, 2013 at 6:18 AM

    Definitely need this kind of player

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSJmMc1cvac

  • 126 Toon_Tom // Aug 21, 2013 at 6:45 AM

    Is Jonas definitely out this weekend?

  • 127 cyprus // Aug 21, 2013 at 6:55 AM

    Wow, easy to get into arguments these days, we all have the solution.
    My two bits: As most sports experts had said, the fifth position was a fluke (we got thrashed a few times then as well, most of our games were poor then too), the team is unwatchable despite being full of internationals, we are a slow team, we can’t pass the ball, etc. The cold hard fact: despite what we think, this is a poor team, miles away from the Citys of this world. That’s a pathetic predicament.

    I like the guy but in terms of football, it’s time for AP to go. I can’t take another year of mediocrity, even against the likes of Hull. All teams know that we are there for the taking. As for JFK, well I hope he was hired on probation. Productivity zero, probation’s up.

    Cabaye? Well, he’s been poor for a whole season. It could also be AP’s fault, but the bottom line is he has failed. Bye.

  • 128 Klatoon // Aug 21, 2013 at 7:05 AM

    Would take Uche Nwofor over Gomis, dont care about his age he’s what we need, runs down channels, hustles CB’s and can make things happen on his own unlike Gomis who, like Cisse is dependant on the quality of the supply from midfield!

  • 129 Santon03 // Aug 21, 2013 at 7:19 AM

    How many wingers do we have? Marveaux, Obertan, HBA, Santon (if pardew has a brain). Yet pardew choose Jonas over Marv or Obertan. I feel sorry for both Marv and Ober, they have more speed and skill but pardew choose to play slower and less skill player. Even if we buy Thauvin or any wingers, pardew will choose Jonas. so.. what’s the point buying new wingers? pardew might be asked by JK, do you need wingers beside tall striker? pardew answer : No, I have Jonas.

  • 130 jazzyp // Aug 21, 2013 at 7:31 AM

    Santon
    I think its the way we give up way to easy as soon as we go a goal down. Look at the way we came back against arsenal.i cant see that happening the way we playing at moment

  • 131 stan anderson // Aug 21, 2013 at 7:38 AM

    Here we go again more rumours of players coming.
    If they have any sense they will stay well away while these clowns are messing around with our once well respected club.
    No way we,ll get the class we deserve at this time.

  • 132 Santon03 // Aug 21, 2013 at 7:39 AM

    jazzyp

    We have no character, no real leader, no fighting spirit.
    Is it because too many french players? or is it their fighting spirit already broken by pardew? Even when the game is lost, pardew choose Sammy over Marv and Obertan, they probably think what do we have to do to play?
    they probably need to show the video 4-4 against Arsenal to the players to lift their fighting spirits.

  • 133 Santon03 // Aug 21, 2013 at 7:42 AM

    Toon Tom @123

    even if jonas has broken leg, pardew will still play him.

  • 134 bills-son // Aug 21, 2013 at 7:43 AM

    Stan anderson,

    You say if players have any sense they’ll stay away from us.

    Now that’s a recipe for success – not.

    What on earth is the point of wishing that?

  • 135 saxonfenken // Aug 21, 2013 at 7:47 AM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous
    Just shut up will you,

  • 136 Jarra // Aug 21, 2013 at 7:51 AM

    I still will hang on until the transfer window is closed then I will add my opinion on Mike Ashley.
    So far most things panning out like I and many others perceived, but very uncomfortable to witness like on Monday night.
    Normal to have reaction after such a poor performance but the result was one most of us expected, why because same team manager coaches as finished the previous season.
    One thing I have recently heard which to me shows that Pardew is just a puppet at the club and has no power is hearing how trapped he is at the club due to his financial situation.
    The only one thing he can say in public if he gets that desperate is to say to Ashley back me or sack me, but he also knows what that sacking will mean to his personal life.
    He got the 8 year contract for none footballing matters through his friend Mr Llambias, to assist with security on a loan.
    If he is sacked he knows the full implications of that, therefore he has no power to voice his frustration and can be used in any manner his owner wishes.
    As for the anger frustration on here, of course I am in that corner, but until the transfer window is closed it would be silly to start protesting.
    Though saying that I can not imagine us going a goal behind to West Ham on Saturday without a vocal reaction.
    LET US PRAY.

  • 137 bills-son // Aug 21, 2013 at 7:52 AM

    I’m as brassed off as any fan at the lack of signings and the City defeat, but. …

    I’ll reserve my final judgement until the window closes. Signings are better late than never and imo we are three players away from addressing our weaknesses and maximising the strengths of the players we already have. If we make signings I’ll judge us after ten games if not I’ll be hammering Ashley and Kinnear like the rest of us.

    As for Cabaye, he has flattered to deceive for most of his time here and if Arsenal or PSG are willing to go to £20M then bring it on imo. Having said that we desperately need a midfield general who can dictate the play more consistently than Cabaye ever has. I just hope that is a priority for Pardew and JK together with a holding forward and a commanding CB.

  • 138 geordie157 // Aug 21, 2013 at 7:53 AM

    If cabaye goes for 20 mill I’d like to think we’d spend 25-30 mill to strengthen.

    Something like
    Alderweireld 5 mill
    Sinclair 5
    Thauvin 10
    Plus a young quick striker maybe

    I’d get shot of debuchy and tiote for trippier and bridcutt too.

  • 139 TorqToon // Aug 21, 2013 at 7:59 AM

    Morning gents!

    Has our illustrious steamboat jumped ship yet? Assume he hasn’t made a statement or anything?!

  • 140 Santon03 // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:05 AM

    geordie 157

    I think they will cost much more than that. They still have signing fee and agents fee other than transfer fee to their club.

  • 141 Jail for Ashley // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:07 AM

    Morning bills,
    I really don’t know wht’a going on here,especially with Cabaye. Rooney,Felani and Baines who are under transfer speculation all helped their respective teams out on Saturday, did Cabaye refuse to play or was he left out to protect his ankles, and can we assume that if he does get sold and players come in that had he have stayed we would have had an injured Loic Remy as our only new signing.

  • 142 sparky55 // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:07 AM

    can’t see gomis coming in without cisse going out…which other clubs in the premiership have three strikers of the classs of cisse, remy and Gomis. Not many for sure.

    I think he’s off back to Germany or off to Russia

  • 143 Santon03 // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:10 AM

    A lot of people want to get rid of Debuchy and Taylor, it’s only one game. Debuchy had one bad game and Taylor had momment of madness, even if we have 11 players on the pitch and Debuchy had ok game, we still lose. We were set up not to win that game but not to get thrashed, we were set up to lose small margin with hope to get a draw.

  • 144 sparky55 // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:13 AM

    tom ince is not right for us and we’re not right for him at this moment in time either.

    gourcoff/sinclair and thauvin and Gomis coming in

    cisse and Cabs out

  • 145 Santon03 // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:16 AM

    sparky

    I still think we need player like Barton or Gattuso attitude on the pitch who will scream at their teamates to lift their fighting spirits.

  • 146 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:16 AM

    Jail,
    Pardew has basically said that the club chose to leave Cabaye out. Saying his head wasn’t right to play. At no point has there been any indication from anyone that he refused. I’d say the order came from boardroom level as they wanted to protect there most saleable asset.

    As for replacing him, I’d be happy if we bought Ince, and Matri/Cardozo. I’d also get Hughes from Derby, but allow them to keep him, at least until January, with an option to the end of the season depending on our requirements. Maybe a bid for Powell from Man U as with Moyes after more midfielders he will get less and less game time slowing his progression.

  • 147 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:18 AM

    Sparky,
    Ince isn’t right for us or us for him, but Thauvin is? Explain please mate. Plus, Thauvin wants to stay in France.

    Is Gourcuff fit now?

  • 148 sparky55 // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:21 AM

    santon @ 142 agreed

  • 149 archaeomag // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:26 AM

    @Lilongwe
    Agree
    Club were protecting their asset – not players decision.

  • 150 sparky55 // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:26 AM

    if thauvin wants to stay in France then that’s fine but he’s a much better player than Ince with much more experience and much better equipped to join a club as big as newcastle…IMO

  • 151 sparky55 // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:30 AM

    Dont know anything about gourcoffs fitness but i do know he’s a damn good player and could make a real difference to our squad

  • 152 JAMSHA // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:31 AM

    Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 3m
    Time to deliver: Hatem Ben Arfa
    pledges to repay Newcastle United fans
    faith bit.ly/14VibWz #NUFC

  • 153 bills-son // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:33 AM

    Jail,

    You’ve probably picked up I’m not a happy chappy on the lack of signings but as I say, I’ll reserve judgement until Sept 2nd.

    On Cabaye not playing, I’ve heard that the club had an ‘understanding’ with Cabaye that if an offer matching our valuation from a Champs Lge club came in he would be allowed to leave. £12M is a mile away and I reckon Cabaye and his agent kicked off because we didn’t roll over. If the club know he is off I don’t see the point in playing him for 2/3 games and protrcting against an injury is just common sense – I bet Bale doesn’t play for Spurs again. As I”ve said Cabaye hasn’t done enough imo to justify a £20M fee and on last seasons form he isnt a big loss.

    I’m hoping the club surprise us all with 2/3 cracking signings but I’m a mile less confident than I was back in May. Nothing surprises me either way with Ashley though so a big signing could still be on the cards.

  • 154 He cannit see man // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM

    As much as I think Newcastle are desperate for a good winger, at the minute its pointless….as long as cisse plays up front on his own every ball that goes into the box is wasted. He isn’t strong enough to hold the ball up and isn’t technical enough to take on defenders, I think he needs someone alongside him to at least distract opposition defence and give him more room to play in. He always has at least 2 defenders if not 3 around him all the time, we’re making it too easy to defend our goal threat as our midfield don’t go forward enough.

    Still, hope we sign him and with the arrival of another striker and Remy getting fit he would help the team out massively.

  • 155 JAMSHA // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM

    good words from arfa

    “My personal message to the supporters is to
    support us like they do, and I will do
    everything for the team to repeat maybe what
    we did two years ago.
    “I hope so. Hopefully, we can repay them.”

  • 156 sparky55 // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:37 AM

    just read through this whole thread from the beginning and it got a bit drug rehab at the top, morphed into a citizen smith ‘power to the people’ rant and then went downhill from there.

    Ruddy for Irish prime minister is what I say

    Power to the puddled!

  • 157 cyprus // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:42 AM

    Initially it would seem that we are two three players away from being a good team but now I’m thinking an overhaul is needed. And I’m not talking about the last game.
    Even HBA is beginning to look pedestrian. A player of Cisse’s calibre appears a ghost of a player. Anita looks like a conference player. Jonas, a top Argentina international is denigrated by casual bloggers. Cabaye, a French playmaker alongside Nasri, cannot dominate a QPR. Debuchy, a dream player for fans, is having stinkers. Taylor is worse than he was five years ago. Tiote, a stalwart and true lion in his national team, is looking depressed. Obertan STILL hasn’t dribbled past a single defender…. I had been hoping against all hope that there would have been an improvement on last year, but that didn’t happen, we are still a shambles as a unit. This may be good as individuals but, as a team, is very poor.

    Unless there’s a miraculous turnaround in the next three games, we must change our manager.

  • 158 sparky55 // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:43 AM

    Latest from Pards

    Big signing would be huge for Newcastle, admits Alan Pardew

    We’ve obviously done a deal and he’s letting us know before we all get on his back on saturday

  • 159 Santon03 // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:44 AM

    Lilo

    Gourcuff is fit.
    Someone attached a link, it said Gourcuff played full 90 mins and Gomis didn’t play.
    I hope we only sign Gourcuff and for striker we sign Matri.

  • 160 lesh // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:45 AM

    @ 153….. Sparky or is it Foxy Smiff
    :-)

  • 161 musomag // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:49 AM

    Dear dear, everyone wants Ashley out but then some people are bitching that you must live in Newcastle and attend all home games to be allowed to support or promote a boycott? Seriously wtf?
    Ruddy is talking a lot of sense here. I’ve been suggesting for months that we all need to find a way to physically do something about the situation at the club we love and support, at last people are actively taking positive steps. Complaining on here or slagging each other off does no good whatsoever.
    I don’t care where you live let’s start being united, get behind these campaigns and fight to get a new owner who cares enough to want to make NUFC great again. One thing is for certain, if we do nothing then nothing will change. Good work lads

  • 162 Santon03 // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:54 AM

    musomag

    rather than doing that, the more effective way is to make professional representative for fans and then lobbying someone rich to buy the club.
    Protesting and rallying does nothing if you don’t have someone with the money to buy the club.

  • 163 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:55 AM

    Sparky,
    If gourcuff is fit and can stay fit then he would be a great buy, huge question marks on fitness though for me.

    Thauvin has played half the number of first team games as Ince, so I’d hardly say he is more experienced. In terms of quality, I haven’t seen much of Thauvin but I was more querying why you don’t think Ince is right for us/we aren’t right for Ince when neither of the 2 have proved themselves at the top level, and neither have played for a top club regularly. Ince has the added bonus of knowing the English game and mentality as well.

  • 164 aidytoon9 // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:55 AM

    Don’t forget if we get around 20 million does cabs and then buy a couple of players that still means that Ashley is spending nothing.This is still not acceptable imo.

    Ruddy.

    Your previous points make a lot of sense imo.

  • 165 Rake // Aug 21, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    If your lucky enough to go to matches and you have an opinion on the current lack of signings or the way ashely runs the club why not create a sizeable banner?. Not just Ashely out! or pardew out! Personally I would make one saying where’s that pacey winger you spoke about joe?

  • 166 Santon03 // Aug 21, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    tips if you want to find someone rich other than Arab oil tycoon, go to Singapore or Brunei.

  • 167 Santon03 // Aug 21, 2013 at 9:07 AM

    Inter Milan new owner is Indonesian guy.

  • 168 Ibizatoon // Aug 21, 2013 at 9:07 AM

    Some interesting stuff to read on here this morning…

    Mac…Can I ask why these groups don’t target the blogs, like this one? I appreciate you have a link from your name on here, is it a case of not wanting to force the issue on people?

    On the Cabaye sale. It is looking more and more likely that he is going and that has been on the cards for a while (Morning Sparky, yes I see you, yes it seems you were right :) Who else was going to be leaving again?).

    I imagine Pardew knew this early in the window, hence the weekly sales pitch in his interviews….he just wanted it done and dusted sooner rather than later, I presume as he is at least under the impression he will get some money spent on new players then?

    This season is going to be a bumpy one and that is not a prediction on our league performance. Truth is, I think the club have pushed one too many fans over the edge and I’m not sure how they quite turn it around at this stage. There is a lack of belief and spirit from management, to the players and then the fans…something does need to happen and I will always encourage healthy debate and ideas of what to do.

  • 169 sparky55 // Aug 21, 2013 at 9:07 AM

    lilongwe

    thauvin has played all his games in the premier division of France…Ince hasn’t played one premiership game yet apart from fleeting 5 min cameos for Liverpool.

    I just think it’s too big a move and will prove difficult for him. Cardiff would have been a perfect club to go to first but he didn’t fancy it.

    IMO Southampton, Norwich or any of the promoted teams would be good..but newcastle at this point in time would not be good place for him. IMO

  • 170 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 21, 2013 at 9:11 AM

    Sparky,
    Fair enough. I don’t particularly rate the top flight in France too highly other than 1 or 2 exceptions though.

    At the minute, I don’t think we can really be looking down our nose at the clubs you mention either. If he did go to one of them and was successful, then he certainly wouldn’t be likely to come here during his career as he would be looking higher up than us. Sometimes you just have to take a chance.

    Personally, I would have preferred Redmond to both as he is less of a gamble financially, as well as being a bit younger with more progression to him.

  • 171 sparky55 // Aug 21, 2013 at 9:13 AM

    Ibiza…I’m saying nowt…causes to much friction…and besides…you know who I said!!!

  • 172 sparky55 // Aug 21, 2013 at 9:14 AM

    lilongwe…8 million is taking a big chance…but hey…who knows! :-)

  • 173 Greebol1892 // Aug 21, 2013 at 9:22 AM

    IMO Ince would be the most likely of our linked players to sign for us (young, English, great potential, affordable wages) so fingers crossed.
    Regardless of who is linked with us, we are always susceptible to being gazumped by Liverpool or Spurs because we are too slow in our dealings!

    Saxonfenken @132
    Hear-hear bonny lad! Ruddy (AKA Mr. Logic from Viz) does go on a bit, doesn’t he? Red lorry, yellow lorry, etc.

  • 174 stan anderson // Aug 21, 2013 at 9:26 AM

    Billson@134 previous thread,if you were a player with no Toon connection,would you choose to play for us over the vast majority of P L teams.We are.nt about winning trophies as you should be aware of by now.
    We are a j oke club under this regime are we not ?
    I believe most players with ambition would choose the unwased before us nowadays,sorry to say that mind.

  • 175 stuart no9 // Aug 21, 2013 at 9:32 AM

    fans who still go to games ‘home and away’ IMO dont have the right to moan when the team suffer ‘cronic ‘ defeats like they did on monday night.

    That has not always been thre case. Ever since the early sisties when i first started going, weve gone through patches where we’d have a decent side – agreat side- a calamity of a side, no matter whar side turned out on a saturday i would be there with my mates watching from the leazes and later from the gallowgate.

    I remember when , during a really bad spell , the attendence dropped to about 15’000 at best, team wernt great, no big names, bottom of league- everything about the club was at an all time low, but me and me mates would still turn up- get soaked in the gallowgate, whatch a sh/t team get hammered week in week out, why? because that was our saturday- thats what we done.

    At the time , i could see the crowds getting less, i was aware the team were rubbish, mainly because our owners were greedy so and so’s who were creaming the club dry.with not 1 glimmer of hope of a win never mind success, that didnt matter to me, i would turn up week in week out like a stupid idiot pay my money on the door for 90 mins of torture.i enjoyed it at the time.

    My dad , from where i caught the bug- thanks dad you bast..d, pulled me over after 1 disasterous showing and explained to me, why after all these years he stood in the same stands as me watching the likes of jackie milburn-the robledo bros. charle crow, all these lads who were greats at the time, why he stopped going , he explained how the fans were gettingrobbed of a decent side by greedy owners, he explained what was happening, he explained why thre big lads were big and we wernt.

    I kept going to games , but started to realise this big change in team success i was hoping for wasnt going to happen, there would be no succes no cups no titles . why had all the fans stopped going- the reason was becaust they didnt want to line our greedy owners pockets for nothing in return, and that the ‘ nothing in return’ to me was the problem- i was being fleeced week in week out.

    After 1 game i went home and started moaning to me dad how bad it was , he started laughing, which got my back up a bit coz weve just been stuffed 4- nowt at home
    ‘are you still going up there’ he said laughing- youll never learn son , youl never learn, i turned to my mum who was whistling while baking a cake and said ‘ will you tell him to stop laughing, seeing how upset i was , she went in the room and said to dad ‘ john stop winding him up’ dad came in and explained to me how and why newcastle would never have a good team as long as idiots like me turned up week in week out lining the directors pockets’ keep going if you want BUT dont come crying to me everytime they get beat ‘dont go’ he shouted trying to get it into my thick head that i was the reason why nothing was changing at the club.

    Bearing in mind crowds were down to about 14000 i did stop going . it wasnt easy , i had this urge to jump on abus every saturday and head to town but i didnt , instead i would be glued to the radio listen to csores coming in. I realised i didnt have a right to moan after gamesas it was my fault for going in the first place and was not listening to advice from my dad before me.Hes 93 now still sits in front of telly with sky sports , watching newcastle with his shirt on.

    Go to the games if you want , but dont moan , you havnt got the right to moan about something you have been warned about and know, as long as you attend the games you are lining the owners pockets. YOU are to blame.

  • 176 Greebol1892 // Aug 21, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    Stuart no9

    Probably the best post I’ve ever read on here. Thanks mate.

  • 177 stuart no9 // Aug 21, 2013 at 10:18 AM

    greebol1982——– thanks for that mate. it sounds like you can relate to that story a little ????

  • 178 geordiemark // Aug 21, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    stuart no9

    aye spot on there




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