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Pardew On Transfers – There’s Nothing Imminent

10:24 am, Tuesday, August 20th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 83 Comments

After last night’s demolition job by Manchester City on what looked to be a frail Newcastle United side, we have to lower our expectations of how well we can do this season.

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Alan Pardew on transfers – nothing for me to add

We were shocked Newcastle looked so poor, because on paper there were some good players in the black and white shirts, but of course the withdrawal of maybe our best player Yohan Cabaye, just before the game, was hardly the perfect preparation for what was always going to be a tough game.

Most fans after the game were furious, and when I went downstairs and told my wife Madeleine that we were torn apart and we could face another relegation fight this season she said – “don’t be daft – it’s only the first game.”

Words of wisdom from the spouse. :D

And of course that’s true, and even if we had played near to our best form last night, the likelihood was that we couldn’t take anything out of this game.

So there is no real need to panic and talk about demonstrations so early in this season, and that will not be a positive thing for the club, the players our the coaching staff.

Let’s keep supporting our players.

Of course we were all less than happy before the game because we are one of the few Premier League clubs who have not strengthened the squad this summer, and to think Newcastle still haven’t replaced Demba Ba, and there’s only 13 days to go in the transfer market is very worrisome, to say the least.

And Alan Pardew didn’t have any good news on the transfer front after the game last night, when he was asked about transfers:

“There is nothing for me to immediately add,” “But it is a situation we need to look at very closely.

“It’s fair to say that any team that comes to Man City isn’t going to look great. I include all the top teams in that.”

“City have some top talent. We had some real blows before the game before it even kicked off.”

Things were buzzing an hour before the game last night when the squad was announced, and there no Yohan Cabaye, and of course with Arsenal making a bid for the player – the two things had to be linked.

But we suppose if Cabaye’s head has been turned we should sell him – but only if Newcastle can get the right price for him.

But whether he will play on Saturday is an open question – but Pardew will probably prepare the side assuming he doesn’t have Cabaye available – so he doesn’t withdraw again at the last minute.

Joe Kinnear and Mike Ashley needs to get going in this transfer market while we still have the chance to straighten the squad -0 so far this summer we’ve looked a little pathetic.

And it’s a good question as to what Joe Kinnear has been doing in the nine weeks he has been Newcastle’s new transfer supremo – because he has precious little to show for his efforts.

Get gong Joe – please - even if you have to wrestle Mike Ashley to the floor to get some money out of him.

Now there’s a thought. :D

What do you think?

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83 responses so far ↓

  • 1 NUFCarter // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:25 AM

    Geordiemark

    he wont spend. If we get relegated he will pocket the 60+mil and F off but if we do manage to stay up then its a bonus and he will stay until it no longer interests him or we get relegated the following season due to lack of signings and poor management etc (the same mistakes as before and before that)

  • 2 NUFCarter // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    well sort it out then Pardew. standup to big Mike and JFK

  • 3 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    There’s a surprise, we are in for nobody.

    WHAT A F*****G JOKE!!!

    The one good thing I thought that might come out of a drumbing like that last night was that it might prick Ashley or JFK’s conciounce and make them think, “hey, we cannot go through a season with these players and playing so bad, lets change things”, but oh no, lets just continue to stand still.

    WE ARE SCREWED!

    Gonna be a long old season, and we will probably end up in a similar league position to where we sit right now.

  • 4 Ben3arfa // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    Newcaslte utd. management should all burn in hell. cockney crooks

  • 5 Tommyy // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Fergies left foot – And then when we put in another pitiful display at home to West Ham next week? What then? just forget it and move on?

    For me there were no positives last night at all! It was a damn shambles and I’m sick of it. We’ve been pushed so far down by this parasite of a regime that we are still looking to defend this absolutely monstrosity of a performance. I’m sorry but it is indefensible. There was no organisation, discipline or any sign at all of the basics.

  • 6 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:31 AM

    Sigh
    Shut the hell up pardew
    Stop talking BS man up and TELL JK and cashley you need to spend some money and get some bloody players in
    Ffs

  • 7 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:32 AM

    We will NOT spend.

    We will NOT have a good season.

    Come January the likes of HBA, Krul, Mbiwa, Sissoko, Cisse etc will be gone and we will limp through to relegation with a thread bare squad lacking in any talent whatsover.

    Its Game over time lads, the future is very bleak.

  • 8 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    Relegation is a very realistic possibility, every other club around us has expanded and improved their squads.

    We on the other hand have continued to stand still, and inevitably getting left behind.

    Sure, it was the opening weekend, but I couldn’t pick 3 teams worse than us, I couldn’t pick one team worse than us (hence why we are rock bottom of the table), and that has been our reliance for the last two seasons, that there are teams who will be worse than us, so they will keep us up.

  • 9 Slank // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    Repost

    richyg01@ 42

    Thanks for the link. It sounds like a comment Ashley would make. Arsenal have so many good midfield players I wonder whether Cabaye thinks he will spend a lot of time on their bench. Not so good for his world cup preparation.

  • 10 jimmysmith // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    Debuchey was terrible, but he is very much an attacking fullback up against perhaps the best group of attacking players ever assembled by an English side. I think you judge Debuchey after 10 or so games, ideally ones where we are not under the cosh. Perhaps he should have been left out of this one in hindsight, but really who else did we have to play there, that would have been expected to do better.

  • 11 DevonToon // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    I see everyone’s still seething… I see two positives from last nite, no taylor for 3 games, so hopefully mapou can nail down that cb spot next to colo. Also even when we where getting hammered we did attempt to play a bit… so there has been a clear attempt to change the way we play. Id rather it all went wrong against a city/utd/chelsea than a team we should be beating. Panic next week when we lose at home :-/

  • 12 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    Florian Thauvin was valued at £6M yesterday.

    With Arsenal and Us meant to be interested in him, they have obviously thought well Arsenal have the cash coz they have bid on Cabaye, and Newcastle could have the cash if they sell Cabaye.

    So today, Thauvin is valued at £13M

  • 13 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    @10

    We will loose next week.

    We have never beaten Big Sam since he was sacked.

    Not to mention, West Ham are much more organised than we are, they looked good at the weekend.

  • 14 Tommyy // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    Richyg – I fully expect us to get relegated on performances like that. And we’ve been playing like that since December. Even with the influx of players.

  • 15 Toon1978 // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    Pardew yes sir no sir there bags full. YA PATHETIC PARDEW. Grow some balls you excuse of a man. Never known so much cowardice from a manager. No balls, no back bone no nothing. NUFC do not deserve the support it gets. This club is rotten to the core. To hell with the lot of them.

  • 16 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    @13

    There is no confidence, no passion, no drive to win.

    HBA played last night as though he was putting himself in the shop window, very much a diamond in the rough.

    Dummett looked like a lad who wants to play and wear the shirt, not many others on that pitch you could say that about.

    We have lost that never say die attitude that got us back up into the EPL and then got us up to 5th place.

  • 17 keeganjr // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    its very clear: the bord and owner really dont care. do not know what matches parwho and co are watching but we are the weakest link of the PL. we are complete shite and NO heart what so ever.. if nothing happening, we could go down very easily.. WAKE UP FOR FCUK SAKE!!!!!!!!!!

  • 18 Bambams // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    I have said it before and i will repeat….

    Ashley is using this club to promote his SD, he is a car boot salesman who buys cheap and sells at a profit, this is our club but to him it is nothing more than a vessel to make him money.

    Yes he has sorted out the debt, but to what damage to the club ? His fault for not checking the figures, but he is punishing us now.

    He will only use ‘sales’ money to buy…. Not his and history shows this.

    Pardew will not stand up to this man because he is in a job ! He will not get another like this one.

    IMO

  • 19 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    Ed, I agree we do look little pathetic, but that’s not just on the transfer front. It’s just basically in the sense of the word!

    …and yes Citeh is a tough team, but lesser teams than us have gotten a result at the Etihad and at the same time looking good!

    We have a great set of players, they just don’t play as a team and our manager don’t know how to utilize them to their strength. What good is a manager with a philosophy, and what good is it having some great modern players if your manager don’t know how to play that game?

  • 20 Toon1978 // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    We need width. Don’t need university degree to know that.

  • 21 numba9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    Joke was brought in by the fat man to buy nobody in transfer windows and keep mikes pockets fat joke is just a cheap wage to keep the heat off himself . Can’t you all see that ?

  • 22 marc // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    gosh that was hard to watch!
    we have a shocking team there are only three players from the game that can hold there head high and say they tried they are- BENNY -why take him off after all pardew said before the game he is at full fitness
    KRUL- thank god he played and not elliott
    DUMMETT- was very surprised how good he was and stopped navas getting his cross in a few times
    other than that we were very rubbish and im looking forward to reading post tryin to defened last night x

  • 23 bobby mango // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    Not saying we should stop supporting the team or players but I think something has to change.

    True demonstrations don’t help team morale but Ashley has been treating everyone disgracefully for too long. People keep turning up and not complaining (except silently on forums like this) so Ashley keeps up the same old antics.

    He has done some useful things for the club but he’s so short-sighted. Penny pinching like he does is a false economy. If he was to spend just a bit more on enhancing the squad, getting a better manager and coaching team he would make far more money from competitions, tv, gates, merchandise.

  • 24 fergies left foot // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    tommyy, just saying it’s a bit early to judge the whole team after one game! 2008-2009 we took a point at old trafford in the first game and were relegated, last year we beat tottenham in the first game and finished 16th. two years earlier we lost to united away in the first game in similar fashion to yesterday and went on to beat villa 6-0 next week and have a solid first season back in the pl.

    im not saying we look fantastic nor will challenge for champions league but to say were going to get relegated and have the worst team in the league is just plain stupid.

  • 25 kevymartins // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    People talking about relegation are just not all there in the end. If you watched football you would have some sense. Jesus man did you not watch Crystal Palace/Hull City/Cardiff? They will go down 100% there really really bad…We lost 4-0 to City played with 10 men and bearly had any possession and still put in a better performance than what Palace did vs spurs.

    It’s the first game against one of the hardest teams in the league for christ sake give over. They will hammer half the league like that this year.

  • 26 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    *without a philosophy

  • 27 Slatymag // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Even if we do get rid of Ashley I think he’d like to leave us with a parting shot. No money spent, dire coach and DOF ( the F stands for fu**knows ), and relegation with a tidy sum in his wallet. This may be the light at the end of the tunnel, as strange as that seems. I think the next time we go down he’ll be off. Oh joy!

  • 28 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    @19

    We need:

    The ability to pass
    The ability to defend
    The ability to tackle
    The ability to create chances
    The ability to score goals
    The ability to keep 11 men on the pitch

    We are just crap in EVERY area of the game, even the basics.

  • 29 cyprus // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Which was the worst team this weekend? I think it was us. Embarrassing to watch, really. We sure have a habit of making City look like a Barca… Arsenal, so maligned, easily beat them in pre-season…

    Now everyone is focusing on their own little pet hate and going for it, but surely a team of internationals should be able to give a better account of themselves. Surely, coach, you must shoulder the blame. Surely these people know how to control the ball, pass it and find open spaces?
    Still, hats off to the optimist bloggers. Of course calling themselves ‘sane’ (ie. implying the critics are insane) is not exactly objective. Something dramatic must happen soon as we have not improved at all since last season. Unwatchable.

  • 30 JaxtheMag // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    I predicted last week on here. city 0 4 w.ham 0 2 and Fulham 0 0. then pardew sacked and then 2days left in the window for the new manager. maybe POYETT.

  • 31 Jan Stavik // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Come on guys, it was a Newcastle side up against the very best in Europe. No doubt players like Debuchy and Cisse have had better games, but writing them off after one game vs superior oppsition is just stupid.

    Get behind the team, look at the ones we should compete with (7-12 spot) and we are no worse – probably one of the better sides in that pool.

    Cisse will get goals if given service, Yanga Mbiwa will become a regular in the heart of defence, Santon is coming back and we have Remy coming in soon. The future is not too bad, after all – who really thought we would get something from last nights game…

  • 32 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    @24

    You can only live in denial for so long mate.

    We just do not look capable of beating anyone.

    We cannot even get the basics right.

    We struggled since December to create chances and score goals, and it looks very much like we will continue down that road.

    Also, once again, you highlight our need to rely on there being 3 teams worse than us to guarantee our survival.

    Why can our destiny not be in our own hands?

  • 33 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    @29

    Pardew will not be sacked.

    Even if he was sacked, I cannot see any decent manager being willing or daft enough to want to come and be ring master at our circus.

  • 34 Beardsleys Love Child // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    I have absolutely had it with this Newcastle United. in this day and age what professional sports team does not strengthen there squad. Its total and utter suicide. just being a premier league team in 2013 is a license to print cash. Look at swansea, southampton, cardiff. Even Hull to an extent have strengthened because they have a sound management team that prepares for injuries suspensions etc. it is now 100% clear that ashley has given up on his playboy hobby and is taking the money until by some miracle a new investor takes us off his hands. This will only happen through relegation or blind luck. Im prety sure he knows he will make a loss on his investment so im sure Cabaye is just the tip of the iceberg. Its laughable, Pardew comments like ‘WE CANT COMPETE WITH SOUTHAMPTON FINANCIALLY’ why not? the whole Ashley regime stinks and has stank since the very day he took over….strap yourselves in, things can only get worse..its an embarassment to the club, fans, area and people of tyneside. I have never been as angry or frustrated in my life. Gordon mckeag now seems like father xmas in comparison.

  • 35 archaeomag // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    Last night did I hear
    “We’re not for Kinnear
    We’re not for Kinnear”
    ?

  • 36 catchy in norway // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    if im honest, we are under cooking it a bit, just a bit,

    our biggest transfer we need

    NOT a forward

    NOT a defender

    NOT a goalie

    NOT even a midfielder

    it has to be our manager, square pegs round holes and he carnt see it

  • 37 Transfer Sage // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    Well I managed to find a place to see the game last night.

    I was impressed until Taylor’s red card. We looked to zip the ball around and get a couple more men forward compared to last year and pre season, we looked much better. Sure city carved us apart at times but they will do that to better teams than us this year.

    Once Taylor got himself sent off it was difficult and we seemed to give up a bit, not nice to see but understandable.

    Not sure why cabaye couldn’t play just because a bid was made. Only two reasons

    1. He refused
    2. Ashley doesn’t want to risk an injury when he can make some money

    Both reasons are terrible and he should have played.

  • 38 fergies left foot // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    tommyy, of course there werent many positives yesterday, and my post was not dead serious, but let’s wait til saturday. if we lose to west ham the alarm bells will ring but until then i think we should be just a bit sensitive about it. the performance was lacking guts but when city have one of them days no team in the premier league will beat them or even snatch a point

    knowing this blog a new striker and a good win on saturday and the place will be rocking again. i just wont look to much into last night. i’ll give it two more games. call me deluded or naive but thats me.

  • 39 Slatymag // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    Here’s the plan. Sell Cabaye. Pocket the cash. Sell HBA. Pocket the cash. January, sell Krul. Pocket the cash. Sell Tiote/Sissoko/ insert name. Pocket the cash. Sky money. Pocket. Relegation parachute money. You guessed it – pocket. Then club for sale and off!

  • 40 Sir Braveheart // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    Seriously? Relegation? Let’s take a look shall we…

    Crystal Palace – pinning there hopes on a £4.5m kid who went AWOL at the weekend

    Hull City – Danny Graham leading the line and a team that are nowhere near Premiership quality

    Sunderland – Have a shoot on sight policy it seems – but only when you’re at least 30 yards out. if they play like they played against Fulham they’re going to be in the mire come the end

    Cardiff – Not a Swansea City – they will be the plucky battlers this season, a decent start but ultimately a lack of quality.

    West Brom – No Lukaku, relying on Shane Long and Anelka for goals, one of which lacks the clinical finishing needed and the other one lacks the effort

    Stoke City – Will be hard to break down but unlikely to score many either. If you see a Stoke player about to shoot in the box the best thing you can do is foul them, they’re less likely to score from the spot than anywhere else on the pitch.

    I predict these teams at least will be below us. Do any of them have a Ben Arfa who can create something out of nothing? A Tim Krul in goal?

    It’ll be a long hard season and we’ll get thrashed on more than a couple of occasions, but I don’t believe for a second we’ll be relegated.

    And those calling for Pardew out, do you really think Ashley wont put Joe Kinnear in charge as a “temporary” measure and then just stick with him? You should all know thats what will happen, so think long and hard before you call for his head. We’d all love a world class manager, but lets face reality.

  • 41 Finnbad The Sailor // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    Sweet Jesus.

    HBA plays well and he’s obviously just doing it to put himself in the shop window.

    another ludicrous statement… will they ever cease?

  • 42 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    @30

    I dont think anyone expected anything from last nights game.

    But I also dont think anyone expected us to be so poor.
    We looked off the pace.
    We could not string passes together,
    We could not hold the ball up.
    Numerous times we hoofed the ball forward to no-one, only for it to come straight back at us.
    Our midfield had no clue and our defence was terrible.

  • 43 kevymartins // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    @Cyprus That was near 1 billion vs about 45-65 million so yea I think we were always gona get hammered against a City team at home 1st game of the season trying to send a message to Man U with 2 new wonderful players in their team possibly the player of the season in Navas…They would have beat anyone on that night trust me.

  • 44 Neil // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    What worried me about last night was his interview after the game whereby he tried to convince us that we were “in the game up until the sending off”. We were never in that game Alan and at times it was embarrassing.
    Sky had us down for 1 shot on target (The Tiote shot) but that was going well wide anyway. I thought Dummett handled Navas well when he came on but dare I say if we had Simpson and Perch starting that game last night I feel we would’ve performed better.
    I was a big fan of Debuchy when he arrived but his defensive capabilities, as well as his attitude are very questionable.
    The club does seem rotten from the top downwards and I’m not exactly jumping from the rooftops about owning a season ticket this year.

  • 45 toonaids // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    4-0 wasnt so bad it was just the performance and the serious lack of attacking flare and massive defensive frailties.
    arsenal got beat at home 3-1 with a betterteam than us so i dont really blame us for losing like.
    just terrible performances from majority of the team.
    1. steven taylor should be dropped
    2. cisse should be dropped
    3. debuchy should be dropped
    4. guitierrez should never start against such a good team

    signings or no signings we should start filtering in our younger english talent as it is the ENGLISH plremier league. dummet looked fast and sharp, sameobi played alright, and i think sissoko isnt getting enough recognitiion, he played the ball well and tried to link up play but no one looked arsed. arfa had some good runs but too much at times.

    we dont need any massive signings just some young english players who are hungry and and will be all over the pitch to prove a point.

    predictions, no one will sign, pardew will be sacked and gus poyet will come in. lose next three games on the trot!

  • 46 dan5679 // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    i had a chat to my source who works at newcastle ….he’s been very good .. i passed on to u guys that

    the gomis deal was off
    that cabaye wanted to go and could miss the city game ( and newcastle will sell for around 20 million )

    he has told me that nobody is inline to come in he has told me newcastle are contacting all the major european clubs trying to get players that they dont need in on loan …there will be no players signed for money and if cabaye leaves (which he will ) there will be no replacement

    sorry to tell u all this

  • 47 Transfer Sage // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    As for Parsees excuse of losing cabaye costing us

    Well obviously it doesn’t help but I remember lampard saying that mourinho would have then going into games with 4/5 systems to use so if anything went wrong things could be changed pretty quickly, we should have more than one plan

  • 48 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    @39

    Again, relying on other teams to guarantee our survival.
    That is not a great philosophy is it mate?

  • 49 kevymartins // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    And the positives where. City away is over and done with for the season :) and Tim Krul is back at his best was a complete animal in nets also Paul dummett looked good. And benny seems to be getting back to his best City defense looked scared when he ran at them. Remy will fit right in.

  • 50 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    @45

    Sad thing is Dan, you are not telling us anything we do not already know!

  • 51 wolfshead@toon // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    demba ba where are you we need you big time :-(

  • 52 Slank // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    Beardsleys Love Child @ 33

    We can’t compete financially with Southampton because their owners are richer than ours.

  • 53 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    After the first £10million bid for French international midfielder Yohan Cabaye was rejected, Arsene Wenger is reportedly preparing an improved offer of around £15 million.

    Cabaye has impressed in his spell at Newcastle United, with the North East winning 44.1% of their Premier League games with Cabaye starting, compared to just 23.6% without him.

    However reports that the Magpies will not sell for anything under £30million could quash any deal happening all together.

    Source

  • 54 joekinnear46 // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    I will tell you what everyone needs, everyone needs to seriously take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror, no matter how many times you complain on a blog about we need this we need that, do you really think anyone is ever going to listen to you. I mean this in no offense but we are the guys who run Newcastle United, I know what money is and is not available, we are not just going to go out and buy a striker just because we need one or two he has to fit the wage bill, he has to be the right player for the club, the right age but most importantly someone who wants to join us. Clubs change valuations of the players we are after as they know we are actively in the market so its about trying to get the right deal as we do have a budget. Now, I suggest for the good of the club you show support at ou first home game against the hammers on Saturday and get behind the players as we are going to need it. Losing 4-0 with one shot is a real depressing stat.
    But mark my words, I’m trying my best for this club, whether you like me or not It does not affect me, I will produce in this window.

  • 55 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 10:58 AM

    @51

    Money doesn’t come into it really though, maybe its just that Southampton’s owners have more ambition than ours do.

    That wouldn’t take much, Hartlepool’s owners have more ambition than ours do.

  • 56 Rooster // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    My God, he is blaming anything but himself yet again, Cabaye should have played simple as, NUFC would still have been stuffed last night by a far superior Man City even if Cabaye had played it would still have been a walk over, im worried, no cohesion no teamwork, no passion for the badge and, mistakes from last summer not rectified, only themselves to blame, pre season showed no change, in fact worse than last season, last 5 games 14 against one lucky one scored, JUST NOWHERE NEAR GOOD ENOUGH.

  • 57 toonaids // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    could some body please tell me if we were put up for sale today how much would we be worth

    100 million for the club
    150 milliion of ashleys debt
    50 million squad

    £300 million about right?

  • 58 Transfer Sage // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Whether we can compete with city, Chelsea or even Swansea and Southampton financially is irrelevant.

    There is no eeason we can only get a single player in on loan. Surely we can do better? We must be able to afford a couple of decent players.

  • 59 Tommyy // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Kevy – I watched all of those teams play, and they were all better than us by far. Yes they lacked quality but they had organisation and hunger 100 fold over us. Just stop with the blind defense.

    Fergie – it’s not just one game though is it? As I said we’ve played like that since December and each week there are no improvements, not even any basic ones.

  • 60 jimmysmith // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    Wouldn’t mind Rosicky in part exchange for Cabs, if he has to go.

  • 61 Slatymag // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    If Ashley is as intent on seeing us flounder as it seems then I’m afraid I’m going to have to mention the b word. No investment in playing staff and no interest in manager, DOF, cutting jobs at SJP all points to his exit strategy. If he wants us to go down why don’t we yes… Boycott? Don’t line his pockets while he’s screwing us!

  • 62 nut meg // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    The very least we should have seen last night was a organised defense.It’s shameful that we were so disjointed,it was pitiful to see. I like most people on here used to have kickabouts when we were younger,sometimes 15/18 a side.Well I can honestly say,them teams defenses were generally better organised than our side last night.It has to be the lack of coaching ability.If teams like Bolton & Stoke etc who had/have what are no better than journeyman footballers over the years can be coached into a tight defensive unit than we can.Is it the coaches can’t get their message over to the players clearly enough or is it the players not clever enough? We have international players FFS. Double training sessions should be on the menu from now until either Pardew sorts it out or falls on his sword !!

  • 63 Rowan Milsted // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    I didn’t expect us to win last night but the performance was shocking and that’s what hurts.

    That game highlights three things for me – how good Man City are, how bad we can be and the fact that the super-rich clubs are becoming just too damn superior for 15 of the 20 PL clubs to compete with. It’s detrimental to football.

    However, I expected better than that. The tactics and formation were both wrong. Cisse can’t hold up the ball and we all know that; he was completetly ostrisised all game. Taylor let us down badly. Debuchy needs a bollocking and a lesson is positioning. Since we have no decent wingers (bar HBA) we should play to our FBs strengths and perhaps play a 5 man defence, particularly away to City, and play our midfielders narrow. That suits them. Sissoko shouldn’t be played wide. Krul was immense; good to have him back.

    So disappointing to be so utterly out-played and to make the same old managerial mistakes again but it was the first game and it was City. Roll on Saturday when we can put things right.

  • 64 Transfer Sage // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    Rooster

    I thought we looked ok til the sending off. Sure we were cut open but city are a class act and will do that to better sides than us this year.

    I think our passing looked much better than pre season although we did struggle in the final third to do anything meaningful…but they have a world class defence.

  • 65 Beattie25 // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    Are people insane?

    You can’t just draw a line through this and move on. You can’t just roll over and take such a defeat.

    Nobody expected us to win but the very least we demand is spirited performances, never say die attitudes and a fight until the end.

    Under Pardew all of those traits have dissipated. We get hammered all the time. 5-0 away to Tottenham, 4-0 away to Wigan, 7-3 away to Arsenal, 6-0 at home to Tottenham, 4-0 away to City and many other examples.

    For me it’s never been about losing, it’s always been about playing to win, fighting in the face of adversity and losing with pride, honesty and dignity. How the hell can you move on after that performance? It wasn’t a one off. It is a continuation of the worst nufc displays I’ve seen in its PL history.

    If this is what the first game of the new season has served up I dread to think what’s to come. Mistakes have not been learnt from, errors have not been corrected and the situation at the club has only gotten worse.

    We have a shit manager under pressure, a clueless director of football and a team weakened, despondent and in need or direction and investment.

    How can you say just move on? Why let 11 men cowar away and let a puppet find recycled excuses and accept it? The least we deserve is a fighting spirit born out of respect for the badge but we can’t even get that.

    Whether its morcambe or man city there should always be a battle to win but the attitude of some of ou fans can be attributed to our sad decline. If the manager cannot get the players to fight for this club then it is up to us to make them do so and that doesn’t involve accepting these continuous displays and moving onl

  • 66 kevymartins // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    @Tommy stop with the blind defense? Your coming onto the blog and throwing words about like relegation after we lost the first game of the season. Get a grip mate. That City team would have beat our team that finished 5th that score. And the other teams looked organized? yeah right they all looked like advarge championship sides. Don’t under estimate us because we lost 4-0 against one of the best teams in the world sending a message to there rivals.

  • 67 Beardsleys Love Child // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    Slank

    I understand that the Southampton owners are richer than Ashley but on a simple level, maybe not financially. Swansea, Cardiff are spending money, they are investing in the team. Every place in the premier league is worth big money. Surely these mid table teams arnt all owned by a multi trillionaire Sheik. Even season ticket money must bring in at least 10m…there is no reason whatsoever that cannot be invested into the team….NONE….if we are happy to sit , cross our fingers and hope for the best why are we not scouting the championship for young, talented hungry english players. i just cannot believe a professional team that played in the Europa league last year, that doesnt appear to be in dire financial meltdown is not investing in the team…..its sickening

  • 68 Tommyy // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    Fergie the issue for me is that, City have one of those days every single game against us, coincidence? I think not.

  • 69 jimmysmith // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    No Remy or Cabaye, and Down to ten men for half the match agagainst that side, to be honest it’s hard to imagine anything less than what happened. F@ck it, it happened, its over, we move on and get stuck in to West Ham.

  • 70 Transfer Sage // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    Slatymag

    Yeh I would agree. I have given Ashley until the end of this window to show me he means business, if he can’t then I will boycott

    I urge all those who still go to take banners and sing to show your lack of support of him. At the very least it gives him some bad press and people start talking about getting him out.

  • 71 Beattie25 // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    * Liverpool

    Although I reckon it could be 6-0 this season against Tottenham

  • 72 Tommyy // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    It’s not one game though is it Kevy – it’s been this way for 8 months! it’s just a continuation of the crap from last season.

    Well those ‘average championship sides’ looked a hell of a lot better than us and were playing good opposition too Cardiff aside.

  • 73 kevymartins // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    @Beattie 2 seasons ago Arsenal lost 8-2 to Man utd did they sit and cry about it? Did they curl up in a ball and wine? No they went out and finished 4th that season. there will always be heavy defeats in football. It’s the way the world works. And the best thing to do is put it behind you and move on otherwise it’s gona be 10x more painful on yourself.

  • 74 lesh // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    So, according to Pardew, there’s no sign of any movement on incoming players and ‘we need to look at very closely.’

    Sorry to labour it guys, but what has Kinnear been doing since he landed?

    If Ashley hasn’t been monitoring the performance of a senior member of the club’s staff, then that’s wilful neglect.

    If he has been having regular updates and reviews with Kinnear and is satisfied, then that indicates either naivety or agreement with what Kinnear’s not been doing – working for the successful development of Newcastle United, then that is disgraceful and affront to both Tyneside and professional football in general.

  • 75 lochinvar // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    It’s a merry go round. Wenger doesn’t want to loose his job and let Pardew become the longest serving Premiership Manager ? So he desperately tries to win favour at Arsenal by trying ( but failing ) to bid successfully for Cabs. Now Wenger looks sad and Pardew better because he told Wenger to naff off. Result, Pardew secure, Wenger vunerable. “Nice one Arsene, nice one son” ( oh sorry that was a Spurs song ). Pathetic the lot of them.

  • 76 Slank // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    toonaids

    Like houses, we are worth whatever someone is prepared to pay.

    £300 million is not a lot to many of the families that rule any of the states in the Middle East. Also, there are meg rich people elsewhere who could easily afford that amount. However, I doubt there is anyone in the North East with that disposable cash.

    The question to ask is why would someone want to buy the club. It wouldn’t be to make money. It would probably be for vanity or to promote their business interests (just like Sports Direct) which has provided them with the money in the first place. Also, don’t assume that a new owner will pump money into the club as if its a bottomless pit. Lerner put a halt to all that at Villa.

    Not much comfort I know but this is what life is like in the Premiership. We might be lucky next time but don’t put all your money on it.

  • 77 Toonfan8 // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    sell Cabaye 20M, Debuchy 5M…..bring Skrtel/Sakho 8/10M…Ince 6M,Mc Carthy 10M,Eriksen/Menez 15/10M…
    total spend 9M….
    MYM,Skrtel,Colo,Santon
    ……Mc Carthy,Sissoko
    Menez…HBA…..Ince
    …………..Remy…………
    much much better team than now…….

  • 78 fergies left foot // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    tommyy, but we’ve beaten all the other top teams in the past 2-2,5 years.

    The team could have been set up better yes but i refuse to read too much into this game. it’s not acceptable and i do feel we get losses like this a little bit too often maybe but still, City had one of those days and we were maybe a bit naive playing 4-4-1-1 when we should have played with two dms but it’s one game!! my two biggest concerns were anita hiding in the wall and pardews refusal to accept we were second best in every department!

  • 79 fergies left foot // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    having said that, i dont mean that as a huge achievement as all the other teams have probably done the same but still..

  • 80 NoBigi // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    HAHA I Would pay serious $$$ to see Joe Kinnear wrestle Mike Ashley to the floor

  • 81 Rooster // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    Sage, im sorry fella, but we were getting ripped apart with eleven on the pitch, honestly no difference from last season at all, also three pens that were pens and an offside goal that was agoal, world class saves off Krul and we mustered one shot, not even pathetic.

    If we had of had eleven on the pitch for 90 mins it prob would have been 7 or 8 because we would have totally capitulated and Saylor and Colo would have conceded a few more penalties, im not having a go at you son. it was bloody awful man.

  • 82 kenzie // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Pardew ponders “hmm gutierrez or marveaux, oh yes marv may add creativity to the side, jonas it is then

  • 83 Wandering Geordie // Aug 20, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    Time for the glazier and the Sunday football coach to leave NOW




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