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PSG Battle Arsenal For Yohan Cabaye – Price Should Go Up

11:56 am, Tuesday, August 20th, 2013 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 170 Comments

News today that Arsenal are likely to make an improved offer for Yohan Cabaye this week, and they may go up to £15M, but we would expect Newcastle to turn that bid down immediately – whatever Yohan Cabaye may say or do.

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Yohan Cabaye – hopefully the price will go up

Yohan’s already dropped out of our first crucial game last night, so he’s obviously operating in his own interests here – and it seems a case of screw the team as long as he gets the move he wants.

The other way of looking at the situation is he’s only trying to do what’s best for his family, and get a good deal at another club that’s much bigger and has a lot more ambition than Newcastle United does right now.

The London Evening Standard is reporting that Cabaye is  keen on leaving Tyneside, and there was even news about a year ago that Arsenal came in for the Frenchman, and as Alan Pardew suggested last September – it tuned the Frenchman’s h head then.

Paris Saint-Germain are monitoring Cabaye’s situation,  and have asked Newcastle to keep them  informed of the developments, but don’t be surprised if they wait until Arsenal have finished bidding and then make their own bid.

The other scenario is that if an Arsenal bid is accepted by Newcastle, PSG  will immediately bid that and hope to lure Cabaye to Paris with a bigger wage offer.

The Standard is reporting that PSG are willing to offer £15M for Cabaye – and the London club have said they will match that.

But Newcastle want around £25M for Cabaye, and we expect the Tyneside club to stick top their guns (so to speak) on the fee, and maybe the best   chance of getting that will come from PSG, simply because Arsenal are usually sensible in the transfer market and don’t overpay for players.

But we are hoping that PSG have more money than sense – just like Liverpool FC  has when they bid £35M for Andy Carroll over two and a half years ago.

The other important thing Newcastle need to do now is to get Joe Kinnear and Chief Scout Graham Carr  looking for a possible replacement for Yohan Cabaye, in case he does leave.

But other clubs will know Newcastle have big money to spend if we do well Cabaye, and will force a tough deal, knowing that Newcastle must sign a suitable replacement by September 2nd.

And since the disaster scenario is we manage to sell Cabaye for a top fee but don’t replace him, we must be prepared to spend the money quickly.

But given Joe Kinnear’s record this summer, how many fans would back him to bring  in a good replacement for Cabaye in the last couple of weeks of the transfer window?

The answer is – not many.

Given what happened last night at the Etihad Stadium, that would not be good – and yes – that’s also a huge understatement.

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170 responses so far ↓

  • 1 catchy in norway // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    put the whole team up for sale

  • 2 mattyNUFC // Aug 20, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    Ed, like with many things, either doesn’t understand or refuses to accept what is glaringly obvious.

    There’s been nothing to indicate Cabaye refused to play; only pardew saying ‘of course’ his head’s been turned.

    MA received the bid on Friday

    Cabaye didn’t travel with the team

    Yet it was announced to the media an hour and a half before kick off.

    That leaves nothing to debate; MA ordered Cabaye to not play. Protecting his asset, so to speak.

    Regardless, that performance was utter crap, much like it has been for the entirety of AP’s insipid reign. He needs to go, and quite frankly I don’t care who comes in. The confines are unambitiously and absurdly tight, but it is glaringly obvious Alan Pardew can not work within them. Find someone who can. Now.

  • 3 kevymartins // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:00 PM

    Repost

    I’m telling you now I will burn every nufc thing I own if Cabaye goes to Arsenal for 10 million. Come on like 10 million for a player who no doubt in my mind will instantly outshine Wilsher,Arteta and maby become one of the best. That would make me sick and we would be proper robbed.

    @Tommy That Ac money was re invested. It bought cabaye a few others and I read it a good chunk of it was put away to cover 2 players wages for the next 8 years or something like that Cabaye and someone also 10 people forget 10 million of it went on Cisse.

  • 4 Klatoon // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    What makes the sending off even more stupid is the reason he did it, a few seconds earlier Aguero was telling him he’d handled the ball so in Taylor’s opinion this was deserving of a WWE clothesline right infront of the referee. For a brief second I thought (and hoped) it was Debushit getting sent off

  • 5 benarfa23 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    haha, take that arse wenger
    you wouldn’t have a chance competing with psg

  • 6 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    Kevy
    Goes into the kitty? What good is that with a couple of days left in the window, which is all we will have if fat ash drags his heels over the price

    I’m sick of hearing our fans bleat in about the money all the time, don’t care what he’s sold for!
    The ONLY way I will care is if the money is re invested now, this window, all of it
    Or if it clears his debt and ash fcuks off!

  • 7 micktoon // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    @kevymartins didnt the virgin money of 10 million buy cisse?

  • 8 numba9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    Cisse was bought a year after ac left we are so slow to act plus the money from a c sale wasn’t all spent and remember we sold Nolan around the time cabs came in so that was near enough a straight swap cash wise

  • 9 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    Kevy
    Dekka confirmed they bought cisse with the virgin money
    Plus wages shouldn’t be paid for by transfer fees that’s a joke

  • 10 numba9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    He is one greedy fat cockney penny grabbing costume of a man

  • 11 Yorkgeordie // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    repeated from last story
    http://www.nufc.com/
    I hope this is true. This is usually a good source

  • 12 Slank // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    catchy in norway @ 1

    Yes, what is to stop Ashley selling all the players and making all the non playing staff redundant and then closing down the club? Would that please you?

  • 13 alex84 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    RE-POST

    Toon1978

    We did actually press high as much as possible in the 1st 30-40 mins, they were always going to have more possession that us, not many teams will got to city and dominate possession.
    Once Taylor saw red that was it, game over, it’s hard enough with 11 men against that team, let alone 11v10, we actually passed the ball at the beginning, people will just use any reason to batter Pardew!

    We are frustrated that we have not signed players that we need, Pardew and players have come out and said we need these signings, but it isn’t Pardew’s job to buy them, its Ash and JK, so he can only work with he has.

  • 14 BandB // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    How was last night’s formation supposed to work? How is it ever supposed to work?
    The full backs couldn’t get forward and were sitting ducks defensively.
    We have two DM’s who engage only when the ball is within 35 yards of our goal. It allowed City to sit right in front of them in numbers, a-la Barcelona, and pass it around virtually unchallenged. A straight-forward ball to split the full-back and the centre half, and they were in.
    Tiote couldn’t get a ball through the press to Sissoko, Ben Arfa and Gouffran, meaning anyone in the City half was isolated and left chasing shadows. If you looked across the central section of the pitch, 20 yards either side of the half way line, it was filled with City players.
    We HAD no midfield, and so contest two-thirds of the pitch with four players.
    Guti and Sissoko tried to break forward, but their final balls were just a hopeful “I’m out of ideas” punts into a sea of blue. I lost count of how many times we hit the ball straight out of play.
    HBA has been told to beef up. He isn’t fat. It was more or less pointless him trying to give the ball to Cisse, who they could afford to double-up on because we were so out-numbered.
    We have paid over and over again for inviting teams of all abilities to just occupy the space in front of our defence. The risk of being counter-attacked quickly and fluidly is minimal. We must be a pleasure for opposing managers to set up against. It’s “help yourselves, lads.”
    It wasn’t a one off. If we set up like this against West Ham and Fulham, they’ll take us apart too.

  • 15 Beattie25 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    Don’t always agree with them but if there is one nufc fan site you should listen to for rumours it’s nufc.com.

    Very,very rarely wrong.

    2 players due in anytime soon it would seem. I’m thinking Fernandes and Nwofor.

  • 16 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    BandB
    Spot on there

  • 17 Beattie25 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    BandB

    There was a formation?

    I agree 100% with your post.

  • 18 Ben3arfa // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    From NUFC.com

    Movement

    Less than two weeks before the transfer window closes – and boosted by an influx of funds from the expected sale of Yohan Cabaye – we understand that NUFC officials are currently overseas, concluding permanent deals to sign two players. More as we get it…

    Gomis and Thauvin?

    Who will replace Cabaye?

    Hate Ashley

  • 19 kevymartins // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    @Tads I get what your saying it would just be like last season (BA)

    The simple solution would be to start lining up replacments now while the bidding war is in progress then bang sell-buy problem sorted.

    I just won’t be able to stand the felling that Arsenal took a world class player for next to nothing. We all know what there like with their bargains just hope were not another club that gets suckered by them. They have more money than they could spend tight arses.

  • 20 stuart no9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    not been to sleep yet, would you believe it been awake all night trying to understand what the fu’k is going on. doing me head in really is. hoping for some good news this morning, but just more misery, dont know how much more i can take , ireally cant

  • 21 Rotonda heights // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    alex

    you are one of those people who talk about every defeat or poor performance as if it’s something in isolation. we have been dire for over a season whether it’s brighton or city

  • 22 Magforlife // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    What difference does it make to us how much he is sold for,? squad strengthening will see very little of it. Ashleys pockets bulge a bit more like his fat belly. Sell up and get out of our club 1 I have tried so hard to accept you and your ways but no more you are a parasite on our famous old club.

  • 23 JackButler // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    If Cabaye refused to play last night then i never want to see him in an NUFC again as all respect for the lad has gone

  • 24 toon kk // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    Last season will repeat its self. We might not be as lucky and survive this season.
    MA doesn’t deserve a premier league club anyway.

  • 25 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    @18

    There is no movement.
    Any deals will be loans like Remy.

    Cabaye will leave and we get no replacement, same as what happened with Ba – we are still waiting his replacement.

  • 26 Marty-Toon // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Well miffed after that display yesterday.
    I knew we were bad but didn’t think we were
    still that far behind.
    Tayls is an idiot and a liability,should’ve
    had a peno against him too for the handball-disgraceful
    display by him
    Gutierrez needs to be sold-useless
    Ben arfa looked sluggish and kept showing
    too much of the ball to Yaya.
    Cisses touch was rubbish,he needed 3touches
    to get the ball under control,shola would’ve
    been a better option.
    Selling Cabaye-we shouldn’t accept anything less
    than 25mill but even then we’re another player
    less,as we won’t get a replacement in.
    He may have made a small difference on the
    pitch yesterday but I bet ya Gutierrez would’ve
    still been in the team.
    Get rid of Pardew,I’d have poyet any day before him.
    FED UP OF EXCUSES AND USELESS DISPLAYS
    LACKING ANY FIGHT OR COURAGE

  • 27 nut meg // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    BandB @14
    I wish I could tell you how that formation was supposed to work but I didn’t know we had a formation ! Just a shambolic mess which was much the same as last season.We did try a pass & move game but that turned out to be a pass & stand still version. Sorry !

  • 28 sparky55 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Cisse next…

  • 29 JackButler // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Joe Kinnear is abroad to conclude two deals they are for a case of cognac and a slab of Strongbow

  • 30 Rotonda heights // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    i’m not frustrated at the lack of signings as we have a good squad just frustrated at a totally out of his depth manager
    who can’t motivate or get the best out of players.

  • 31 jimBOB // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    not being funny Ed but how is the blame with Cabs, I cant see him refusing to play, or how you have the info placing it on him. have you seen the toon Hierarchy, they seem to make it out how it ‘isnt’ every time.

  • 32 anirudh175 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    @Rotonda

    …Maradona, zola messi gattuso tevez etc etc are all small players but they are physically strong players…messi may be not that strong but then he is Messi..they dont get pushed around…they were more bullish than anything else…but look at our lads…seems they dont get enough to eat on a daily basis…they are physically soooo soo weak and incompetent…lack desire to win the ball…more like headless chickens running around with no motive!!!! its a shame really

  • 33 Transfer Sage // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    Jack

    For all we know Ashley could have had cabaye withdrawn from the squad to make sure he isn’t injured when he sells.

    Cabaye battled away and played last year when suffering from depression so I’m sure he would play even if a bid was made.

    All speculation though as none of us will ever know, both sides (cabaye and the club) will blame each other.

  • 34 numba9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    I believe cabs would have wanted to play I would point the finger at the guy that has had a reputation for takin the p1ss out of us for the last 5 or 6 years far more likely he wants the player fit for sale

  • 35 JackButler // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Transfer Sage

    thats why I said ‘If’

  • 36 anirudh175 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    I get the impression that Newcastle has become a club which is being used by lesser known players to come to England..play well for a year..make a name for themselves..get the recognition they didnt have and then move on to bigger clubs..We are a club that is being used by players to form their base in England before moving onto bigger cash rich ambitious clubs…coz we have no ambition watsoever!!! utter shite!!1

  • 37 alex84 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Haha am I really?
    Id like to think that I look at those game with a sense of realism, Cup games like you mention can always go either way, the reason we don’t do well in cups is because we have a small squad that is filled with depth and quality, and last night’s game was against a team that if they play like that will beat most team’s at home.

  • 38 Toon Tang // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    not looking forward to the shrimpers game. bet they cant wait for that match like

  • 39 Transfer Sage // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Not sure what people expected last night. No new faces so wasn’t going to be drastic change.

    For what it’s worth we looked better than all pre season until we lost saylor. We had some good passing and got a few forward. Just struggled again at the back (against a classy team though) and didn’t do much in the final third.

  • 40 mattyNUFC // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    cut the cabaye depression malarky

    to use it as an excuse is a joke. he didn’t develop it last just last year!

    then again, I noticed my own depression worsens the longer I am subjected to APs teams

  • 41 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    http://www.thejournal.co.uk/sport/mark-douglas-ashley-kinnear-14-5755883?

  • 42 wolfshead@toon // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    someone on here said if joe gets a players name wrong they are as good as gone so that leaves ameoba ben afri and goltierez

  • 43 theartfuldodger // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    Anyone think cabaye was left out as he or his agent might have had an unofficial casual or something like that -chat with arsenal-saying he wud be ok to join arsenal. Perhaps in someway not accounting to or proof enough for tapping up.Some chat transcripts between ashley and arsenal state the arsenal guy saying “he wants to play for arsenal”
    Thus ashley kept him out.

  • 44 croftus5678 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    so weve wasted all this window again….got one player who’s not even ours and are no where near any signings with very little left of the window !!!!
    and we expect a cabaye replacement ?……pull the other one lol….if cabaye goes theres no chance we will get a replacement this window as they havent been able to get the transfers there apparently organised for.

    for anyone who watched last night and said that some were happy with being mediocor the diff in class in quality proved we are mediocor at best and if we get top10 its a very good thing.

    very few of our highest quality players where not in the league of some of city’s poorer players so we should stop acting like we are a top 6 team !

    we need better quality players than our best players to do that.

  • 45 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    @40

    Yep, Its depressing being a fan, must be really depressing being a player

  • 46 stuart no9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    its just a thought but could it have been arsehim nal who said dont play – if you do the deal is deff off as arsenal have a CL qualifier on wed night and need cabaye to be fit for then, but thinking about it, not much time for that to happen now , so probably not

  • 47 kevymartins // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    @Magforlfe Fine then accept defeat that we can let other clubs dictate us and walk all over us humiliate us once again.

  • 48 cyprus // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    Give this regime three more games and if we lose 3 out of 4 (ie 2 to go) then ask this: Should some other coach have a go with this group or should we do an overhaul? (or both)

    The less drastic is to change the coach and see what he can do. More drastic is to start selling and buying. This bunch just cannot play together. Cabaye for 20+ million, IF it means 3 seven million new players? Hell yes.

  • 49 Transfer Sage // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    Jack

    Sorry pal, didn’t mean to sound like I was having a go.

    I just have much less trust in the Ashley regime than anything else so unless clear evidence is shown to prove me wrong ill always blame him as he is clearly not looking out for the clubs interest in any deal.

  • 50 stuart no9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    * arsenal *

  • 51 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    We sell Cabaye, then every player we enquire about, their price will be inflated 50 – 60 % easy.

    We could bid for Ince, but his price tag would be nearer £10 – 12M.

    We are in a VERY sticky situation.

  • 52 nut meg // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Sparky 55
    I think you’re probably right,Remy at CF adds more pace & movement with 2 creative players up front with him………only my opinion.

  • 53 hoppernufc // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    No more frenchies!

  • 54 Lilongwe Geordie // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:29 PM

    Sage/JB,
    I was under the impression that Pardew has already stated that he (Pardew) decided Cabaye’s head wouldn’t be right, and that was why he didn’t play. Not heard any journo, or anyone at the club say Cabaye refused.

  • 55 Ben3arfa // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    Well we all remember the last time when Llambias was in Holland to “cocludede” deals for Douglas and De Jong.

    Joke of a club we are

  • 56 mattyNUFC // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    alex84

    and last nights game also showcased a team that will struggle against most.

    it rattles my brain at how people can still be okay with what we’re seeing. the excuses that it was against city stink of AP’s.

    Is this fun? Is this entertaining? Is it climatic highs and theatrical lows? No, it’s just dishearteningly predictable, and altogether disgusting, week after week

  • 57 jimBOB // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    25 mil before the end of the week? Arsenal? that was why he was pulled last night! mark my words! should have been a bloody hose pipe with the amount of Leaks I have. hahahahahahahahahahahaha. then again he might stay.

  • 58 JackButler // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:31 PM

    TBH I expected us to be beaten last night as we are not the only side that will take a hammering against them this season, but the lack of intensity and determination was frightening. I can take a defeat if we give everything but to play like that was unacceptable.

    We were pushed off the ball with very little effort and showed no real desire for the game and in truth looked like a side that new it was going to get hammered.

    It’s been 13 weeks since the last game of last season and nothing has changed at all so can someone please tell me what the hell Pardew and his coaches have actually done over the summer????

  • 59 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    @53

    Yes, It was Pardew who sent Cabaye home.

    Doesn’t send out great messages, greatest statement of intent with Cabs would have been for him to play.

  • 60 bobby_ollox // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Hope Powell favourite to take over from Pardew – perfect candidate for Mashley – hasnt won anything for 15 years, and no b*lls at all.

  • 61 Transfer Sage // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    When I return from holiday I will be looking to setup an anti Ashley campaign to try to get him out, show how unhappy we are.

    Anyone agree? Or disagree? Let me know your thoughts

  • 62 JackButler // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    Transfer Sage

    No worries mate, I think everyone’s nerves are frayed and we are all sick of how we are being run

  • 63 Klatoon // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Cabaye’s head was wasnt turned last night…its been turned since the start of last season. Just analyse some of his gutless performances last campaign. His heart’s just not in it!

  • 64 toon kk // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Seriously lads I know we played City but we still played the worst football of team in the premier league. P poor, just like last season.
    If people want to pay to watch that rubbish that’s upto them, but I have better things to do with my cash than give it to MA, he’s just taking the p..s.

  • 65 numba9 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Agree

  • 66 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    @56

    Exactly, people on here are already trying to think of 3 teams worse than us which will guarantee our survival.

    We are Newcastle, once title contenders, biggest team in the North of England – We deserve better.

    We should not have to rely on other teams being worse than us for us to stay in the league.

    We should have a team that is on that pitch giving 100%, ensuring our own safety and PL places beyond that.

    The mindset of so many fans is all wrong.

    We are getting too set in the way of making do and mediocre performances.

    IT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

    We are NEWCASTLE, I’m just not so sure on the United any more.

  • 67 alex84 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    MattyNUFC, I am not saying last night made me or other people happy, I am saying you have to look at who we were playin the circumstances, we had 10 men for nearly 50 mins, that’s game over, when you already 2-0 down,

    IF we play West ham and Fulham and set up defensive at home and get dominated then I will be really narked off, but like SAGE said I agree that we tried to pass the ball on the floor and keep possession when we could, but that became impossible as soon as Taylor did what he did, you cant blame Pardew for Saylor having one brain cell!

  • 68 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    SSN

    I have been told that the player is interested in moving to Arsenal, especially if they qualify for the group stages of the Champions League. Newcastle are not going to say anything in public today, but I have been told by a very senior source that they do not consider bid to be serious. I’ve been told that an improved bid would have to be at least 50 per cent more than what has already been offered. So Arsenal would need to offer between £18m and £20m before Newcastle would be tempted to sell.

  • 69 mattyNUFC // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    Aaaaaand

    the nufc.com blurb previously posted has been taken down

  • 70 JackButler // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Jamie Carragher said last night that nothing has changed from when they (Liverpool) smashed us last year.

  • 71 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    @69

    Which Blurb, that about 2 permanent foreign deals?

  • 72 Indian Magpie // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    The two players are

    Xisco

    Nacho Gonzalez

  • 73 lochinvar // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    Cabaye wants and needs (mental health) to go home…to France. It’s a French thing. He doesn’t want to play for a small club (Arsenal) in a small provincial French town (London) when he can join a big club (PSG) in a big French city (Paris). He would look very stupid joining Arsenal who may not yet qualify for the Champions League proper this year, yet alone quality for it next year. ( that will be Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea and Spurs ) PSG offer him 1. French club 2. Champions League ( ongoing year on year I would suspect ) 3. French national Team 4. More Francs ( they don’t like the Euro either ). Hardly a difficult decision for him or NUFC ( more transfer fees and not sold to a competitor ). Au revoir.

  • 74 DiscoNUFC // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    @66

    Dead right pal! We should be knocking on the top fours door, not the bottom four!!!

    Pards needs to disappear and soon. We have a genuinely strong squad, many internationals and others on the fringe, but with no real direction and very low ambition why should they bother..

    Cabaye has played his part at our club, gutted to see him leave but if he feels he can cut it at arsenal/PSG then who are we to hold him back.

    Safely say in this state we ain’t gonna be winning anything any time soon, and he’s too good to be scrapping for survival.

  • 75 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    @72

    I hope so,
    Them two signings result in a manager sacking, so fingers crossed…

  • 76 mattyNUFC // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    alex84

    now, but you can blame him for thinking he’s deserved of an England call up!!! such is his judge of player.

    you can blame him for the rest of the way the team set up

    you can blame him for his misguided hesitency to give either anita or marveaux a fair run

    you can blame him for putting cabaye in the shop window all summer and then acting like a child in front of the TV cameras pre and post match as if arsenal were out of line, nevermind the fact they’d bid three days earlier and we decided to announce it an hour and a half before kick

    those, and plenty of other things i don’t feel like remunerating

  • 77 Wiz // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    We sell players when it is in our financial interests to do so, and likewise we buy them when it is a good deal. Suddenly buying players makes financial sense again because it is plain we might be relegated by Christmas. Fear of relegation is the only thing that will make us buy players. Ambition is absent, and an irrelevant consideration. Panic-buying is the only kind of buying we do. And of course it is stupid and self-defeating, and not even economically literate, because now players we buy will cost more, as others have said. Ashley must still think it’s worth the gamble though.

  • 78 mattyNUFC // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    lochinvar

    cabaye would hardly look stupid if he moved to arsenal and they didn’t qualify for the CL

    what? would he regret it and be thinking ‘man, I was I was back up north fighting relegation whilst watching the ball go over my head.” his neck needs a break.

  • 79 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    @78

    He may look stupid if he spends 60% of the season sat on the bench tho.

  • 80 mattyNUFC // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    richygo

    yes

    they took it off the website.

    soooo, basically, don’t get your hopes up about two signings that are ‘imminent’

  • 81 mattyNUFC // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:52 PM

    richygo

    again, probably not. i’d rather play 40% hoofball than 100% dogsh*t

  • 82 mattyNUFC // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    oh, and it’s back up now??

    strange

  • 83 Indian Magpie // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    MattyNufc/Rich

    It is still on the website, i can see it now.

  • 84 AndyNUFC // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    I honestly do not blame either Cabaye nor his best mate Debuchy for last night.

    They both gave up playing in a title winning team in the champions league, playing in the Euros – to come to nearly getting relegated at our mess of a club. They deserve better.

    Pardew clearly kept Cabaye out for risk of injuring a potential £20M transfer – and how is Debuchy feeling about all this? Well, you saw him last night, enough said.

    I am starting to really turn on Pardew though, I just cannot understand how, when Jonas goes off, Anita comes in instead of Marveaux. Oh and Sammy Ameobi is ahead of him, too.

  • 85 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    @81

    Big impact on his International chances tho, sat on a bench or playing every game?!

  • 86 south coast toon // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    if i was a half decent player id want to be in a good team with ambition and with players of a high standard playin good footy, last season we were bad, no players no ambition all our team will want to be elsewhere in a mo if we dont bring in a manager or heap more creative players can you blame them. i hope im wrong and we turn it round in our next 2 games but i cant see any change from last season

  • 87 Yorkgeordie // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    http://www.nufc.com/
    Matty@69

    No it hasn’t

  • 88 King_PeeWizzle // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    Last night’s result destroyed me. No width, No pace, passing disgraceful and our defence opened at will.

    The only positives were Krul, ben arfa, dummet and occasionally mbiwa.

    Only Ashley, Pardew and JFK will know this but why did we not bid for Redmond outstanding young winger. He went to norwich for 2m rising to 3.2m. bargain of the summer in my eyes.

    Only two months ago during the kinnear appointment saga, he was quoting we needed pace and width to supply cisse. two months down the line we are starting with the tightest formation ever packing the centre and relying on the likes of jonas to supply the width.

    I will finish this rant on cisse, i know he has no service last night but he was embarrassing he has no pace and hold the ball up. My old man is 54 5’6 and is chubby as they come and i’m pretty confident he could hold the ball up for long than cisse.

  • 89 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    @84

    Agreed.

    Sammy was cr@p at Middlesbrough on Loan, so how the hell does he get to come on in our opening PL game?

    He shouldn’t even be on the bench.

  • 90 geordielad880 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    I would imagine it would be gomis and thauvin, thauvin cant replace cabaye though, he is a right sided player mainly, we need a ball winner who has got good distribution to replace cabaye, we are definately interested in thauvin, because before he went to lille we had a 3.5m bid turned down, he was immense towards end of the season for bastia, joey barton raved about him as a future star, and he is a good judge of a player

  • 91 Transfer Sage // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    Arsenal would be good for cabaye unfortunately

    Playing with corzola, Wiltshire, arteta, Walcott and giroud is a big step up in terms of quality

  • 92 geordielad880 // Aug 20, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    and we have had scouts watching him since then, and be have been keeping tabs on jody lukoki of ajax aswell

  • 93 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    @90

    Price being quoted on him is £12M now though, so I can’t see him being a realistic target.

  • 94 Yorkgeordie // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    It was put back on at 13.54
    http://www.nufc.com/

  • 95 alex84 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    Manager’s make mistakes, that is natural, Has Marv and Anita really made that much of an impact, not really, Marv is very tidy but goes missing, Anita gets over powered.
    Everything Pardew does even when positive is met with whinging on this blog, the one person that controls everything is Mike Ashley, if anyone is to blame it’s him.

    Oh and Swansea play really nice football with lots of possession and they got battered 1st game at home.

  • 96 richyg01 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    @92

    We ‘keep tabs’ on lots of players.

    We just never follow up interest in them.

    I would love to know what Graham Carr’s thoughts are.

    Bet he has lists & lists of gems, but no-one will listen to him.

  • 97 geordielad880 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    we will probably get gareth barry :-(

  • 98 Dondatta13 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    Ive said for a while Im done with this setup at SJP…

    However, I do have a message for Mr Pardew…

    Alan, you are obviously on borrowed time, do yourself a favour lad, don’t go out on a whimper like your teams performances over the last 8months or so…

    If your going to go, then go out all guns blazing and attack attack attack, what do you have to loose? Your job? That’s going anyway (hopefully)

  • 99 kevymartins // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    @Richy01 We ‘keep tabs’ on lots of players.

    We just never follow up interest in them.

    I think you got that wrong.Other clubs just jump in and sign them. I reckon other clubs have scouts scouting our scouts.

  • 100 JackButler // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    alex84

    Ashley controls the club but Pardew controls the players, training, selections and tactic’s.

    Has he been helped enough from above? NO, definitely not.

    But does he help himself? No way. His formations, tactics and preparation are well below that expected of a premier league club

  • 101 mattyNUFC // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    andy

    debuchy was never that good anyway. he went into the euro squad because there was no one else available.

    not to take plaudits as obviously none are up for grabs, but the blog was pretty divided on Debs to begin with, and I was less than convinced by him.

    perhaps he could excell at RM, RW, but it’s hard to say. it’s a bit irrelevant though; i don’t think he wants to be here. him not being good enough is a moot point, but, AP won’t drop him anyhow. he’s an ‘international’. ha!

  • 102 joe kinnear // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    I will tell you what everyone needs, everyone needs to seriously take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror, no matter how many times you complain on a blog about we need this we need that, do you really think anyone is ever going to listen to you. I mean this in no offense but we are the guys who run Newcastle United, I know what money is and is not available, we are not just going to go out and buy a striker just because we need one or two he has to fit the wage bill, he has to be the right player for the club, the right age but most importantly someone who wants to join us. Clubs change valuations of the players we are after as they know we are actively in the market so its about trying to get the right deal as we do have a budget. Now, I suggest for the good of the club you show support at ou first home game against the hammers on Saturday and get behind the players as we are going to need it. Losing 4-0 with one shot is a real depressing stat.
    But mark my words, I’m trying my best for this club, whether you like me or not It does not affect me, I will produce in this window.

  • 103 mattyNUFC // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    alex84

    i’ll say this again: are any of us besides bills-son happy with MA? hardly

    so, seeing as we’re less than intstrumental in any potential change in ownership how about this: we get a manager in who can work within the given confines. blindingly clear AP cannot.

  • 104 geordielad880 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    Side for west ham game:-

    ————————-krul

    Santon——collocini—–m’biwa——-dummett

    ————sissoko—————anita
    —ben arfa——————————-marvo
    ————————gosling

    ————————-cisse

  • 105 alex84 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    He controls a squad that is bought for him, i.e numbers of players, quality of players…that is controlled by Mike Ashley.

    Like I have said, last night is not the game to judge Alan Pardew, no Cabaye, no Santon and against a team that are contenders to win the league, with 10 men, if we play like the way we did last season against West Ham and Fulham then I will be agreeing with you, and will look at Pardew and the Board.

  • 106 kevymartins // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    Geordie isn’t Remy and santon back next game?

    Remy is either back next game or the 1 after that. I think santon should be back and I would defo swap gosling for gouffran if Remy is out.

  • 107 alex84 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    How many managers would actually want to work for Mike Ashley? not many, the man gives no support what so ever!

  • 108 papattack // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    i think pardew is just too nice, he doesnt tear into the players when they arent doing their job.

    yes it means people will fall out and egos will be bruised if he does tear them a new one, but ultimately pardew will get respect by the players because by making them do their jobs properly means we might get results.

    i think he should go, the squad is small but the players we have are capable of more than what pardews getting out of them.

    our 5th place was a fluke due to our players being an unknown quantity and having that great start gave them huge confidence. plus we got lucky with cisse and ba’s form. when you have two strikers who cant stop scoring your going to finish high up the table.

  • 109 Klatoon // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    I’d take that lineup at 103…then again, i’d take any lineup w/out Tiote and Debuchy right now!

  • 110 geordielad880 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    I think out of the foreign players we have, I would only keep krul, ben arfa, santon, marvo, anita, sissoko, cisse, collo, m’biwa, jonas

    I thought we should get rid of cabaye, not because he is not a good player, because he is not commited to newcastle, we need 11 players that want to play for newcastle, and know what the shirt means

  • 111 JackButler // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    alex84

    And he’s proven he can not control the squad we have as he has failed to get us playing football or getting the best out of them. Last nights result was academic as we were up against one of the most expensive squad to be assembled, but the nature of the defeat, the way we simply laid down was not and never will be acceptable.

    If we are going to lose then lets at least lose when showing effort and intent

  • 112 geordielad880 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    santon is probably back against west ham, remy the fulham game at the earliest

  • 113 IPToon // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    a lot of things about the performance last night were worrying but to top it off Pardew comes out after the game and says “Up until the red card we made a good account of ourselves and put pressure on their goal”

    Everyone can see thats a lie and what does this bloke actually see from the dugout area! Up until the red card we were awful, 2-0 down, could have been 5-0 down, created nothing other than a few Ben Arfa long shots, Joe Hart had’nt made a save and we had 1 corner.

    And i will also stress that single corner we had all game pi**ed me off as i had a £5 bet that we wouldnt get any corners all game for a return of £125.

  • 114 sparky55 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    @103…good team

  • 115 geordielad880 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    you can see how frustrated the players are m’biwa was montpellier captain, and he is getting yellow cards for stupid tackles, could have seen red, he is a top player, put him in a top side, with a decent manager, and you will see how good he is, same goes for marvo and anita

  • 116 papattack // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    pardew needs to stop changing tiotes game aswell. why was he trying to ping 40 yard passes around last night?

    seriously fed up of the same shoddy tactics of lump it long to cisse. he must hate playing for us

  • 117 Beattie25 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    To sum up Alan Pardew I shall avert your attention to his post match interview and specifically what he thought of nufc before the sending off:

    “I thought we gave a good account of ourselves up until the sending off, we had threatened the goal but the sending off made it difficuilt for us then”.

  • 118 JackButler // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    https://twitter.com/TransferSources/status/369794392304787457/photo/1

  • 119 marc // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    is pardew actually tryin to put some of the blame for last night on arsenal what a bell
    yeah the players head may have been turnt but he at the end of the day is payed by nufc and the transfer market is open so we should expect bids he should have maned up and just played anyhow we still would have lost (got spanked) with him playing he aint even that good sell him today then sell his bum chum debuchy coz his just as poo we need a lot of players to even look a little better lets just hope remy can score 6 a game
    and just for the record expect a simlar result on the week end

  • 120 mattyNUFC // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    JB

    what’s that link say?

  • 121 Premiership Manager // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    A disappointing display all round, particularly Taylor for getting sent off.

    Most predicted that we would get beat so there were no surprises, however the lack of commitment, cohesion and creativity are more than a cause for concern.

    The dressing room is in tatters and Cabaye is showing his true colours now that a bigger team has come in for him.

    Unfortunately as Ba proved we are a stepping stone for foreign players seeking bigger clubs and that is part of the problem.

    I would sell Cabaye and Debuchy if PSG are still interested after his abysmal performance and re-invest the money in English players.

    Yes it will cost us but we need an English heart, English passion and English pride if we are to move forward balancing the foreign player with a core of English players.

    We have some difficult games coming up and I can’t see Pardew being in the seat come October. We need a good manager who can take us forward and that is where we need to spend. Pay for a quality manager who can shape and develop the team to take us forward.

  • 122 JackButler // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    mattyNUFC

    Its an old pic of Pardew slating Arsenal for playing so many foreigners and shows the amount of English players we have shipped out of the last few years 12 in total without bringing in a single english player to the club

  • 123 marc // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    @Beattie25 @116

    your right he actually did think we played well when we had one shot on target and a shot from benny that went over
    how is that in the game??
    plus we were already 2 down by that point lol this club is a joke

  • 124 JAMSHA // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    wenger needs a kick on the arse hope he gets sacked

  • 125 BuckLuck // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    Premiership Manager

    Spot on! Couldn’t agree more.

  • 126 AwToonnufc // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    My team for saturday would be….
    Krul
    Santon – Colo – M’biwa – Dummet

    Tiote
    Sissoko Marveaux

    Ben arfa Gouffran
    Cisse

    Marv can play where he wants to play through the middle, Cisse always seems to play well with marveaux – probably because Marveaux spots the runs early enough. Sissoko can play as a box to box CM and tiote as defensive (He looked more controlled in his challenges last night). Pointless talking about this really though as Pardew will no doubt field the same shit as last night.

  • 127 geordielad880 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    jackbutler, to be fair to pardew, he is just a puppet, i dont think he is a bad manager, he has his own style 4-4-2 with 2 wingers, our players dont suit him, if he had it his way, we would sign bent, parker, noble, jarvis, carroll, tompkins, mccarthy type players, he does believe in english players, he cant handle flair and technical players, he had a good 1st season at west ham, and got mascherano(cant spell his name lol) and tevez forced on him, both top players, but dont suit pardews style, we need someone like rudi garcia or laudrup to get best out of our side

  • 128 WWSBRD // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    JB
    He’s only a hypocrit if he has a day in transfers which I truly believe he doesn’t

  • 129 kevymartins // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    My team would be

    ________________Krul__________
    Debucuhy___colo___mbiwa____dummett

    __Ben Arfa____Tiote___Anita_____Marveaux

    and either_________Sissoko/Ameobi

    ___________________Cisse________
    or
    ________Sissoko/Ameobi___Cisse

  • 130 JackButler // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    Beattie25

    Pardew was always going to say that he thought we were in the game, as it’s what nearly every other manger does, but whereas other managers will only say something like to the press while they react very differently when behind closed doors but what worries me is that I think he does actually believe what he said and that it wasn’t him simply trying to put a positive spin on things

  • 131 kevymartins // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    It’s pritty obvious Cisse needs help up front and the sooner he get’s it the better.

  • 132 geordielad880 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    Pardews side:-

    ————————-Krul

    Clyne——collocini——–tompkins—–santon

    ben arfa——-parker——–mccarthy—–jarvis

    —————carroll———bent

  • 133 mattyNUFC // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    JB

    I’m not English, and am extremely left-leaning socially, especially when it comes to provincialism and nationalism

    but even I think we need more English players. I was at the 5under1and match and it felt like there was a team representative of the locals. I went to the Bordeaux away match last year and it couldn’t have been more opposite.

    Now, I much prefer the calibre of player we now have in comparison, but without the proper rudder (manager) they are completely adrift.

    Will Hughes, if only based on his u21 and early season performances, would be morth every penny of 10mil. i would then go for Clyne or a long, long shot for micah richards to fill the void that is debuchy, and an austin/le fondre/rhodes type british striker (in addition to the prospective top-o-the list striker we’re after now- hopefully someone other than gomis)

  • 134 JackButler // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    I put that picture up simply because it shows that what is happening at the club is against what Pardew actually wants and that he has no say in transfers

  • 135 Beattie25 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    Apparently nufc officials are in France meeting Cabayes officials.

    Anyone who believes that is daft.

    If its the player brining the club into disrepute then surely we would summon his reps rather than flying out to meet them.

    My guess? We are in France discussing a deal with PSG with Cabayes reps coming along for the ride.

  • 136 lochinvar // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    According to Sky Newcastle representatives have traveled to France to negotiate with Cabaye’s agent ! If that’s the case then we are trying to sell him……why the hell couldn’t the agent get off their backside and meet with Cabaye and Toon officials in Newcastle – that way we would have saved on air fares.

    Anyone know where JFK is ?( and I don’t mean the airport ). Why not ask him to wear a tracking tag so we could follow him on his global travels or is he in Grimsby looking for the next Pele.

  • 137 Jackel001 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    This guy hits the nail on the head!

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z-Ruf3971fU

  • 138 mattyNUFC // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    oh, and just a thought:

    Bigi needs to be sent out on loan. Like all of our players after arrival, he’s turned from a decent prospect into an extraordinarily average one. he and others are learning/being taught the game the wrong way. hopefully a new manager will come in before it’s too late

  • 139 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    I don’t think NUFC officials are in France to talk to Cabs agent!

    …He knows where Newcastle is ;)

  • 140 JackButler // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    mattyNUFC

    I’m not English either, but I see the need for us to have British players at least, the like’s of Sinclair, Mcarthy and Ince for example, but whoever we sign or where ever they come from doesn’t matter if they don’t buy into what it means to play for this club

  • 141 Blofal // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    If I were Mike Ashley I would…

    Sell Cabaye for 25 mill. Then spend 50 mill on transfers in this and the next window. And bring in Gus Hiddink immediately, pay him whatever he asks for and implement all the changes he requests.

  • 142 Obafan // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    My thoughts of last nights game are:

    Krul: made a few superb stops, nothing to blame at all.

    Debuchy: cannot say anything positive about him; it looks like he doesn’t care. At one moment I thought he was looking to get send off (remember Liverpool).

    S. Taylor: hope he never has to play again; A complete waste of space. Let the rest down.

    Colo: for the first half he was playing as the only CB, cause the other one was/is just not good enough to play EPL. With M’biwa next to him he became better.

    M’biwa: at LB he wasn’t that good, but he needs to play CB, which he did quite well seeing the circumstances.

    Ben Arfa: tried hard, but did not get enough support.

    Sissoko: was getting annoyed a lot of times; had to play different positions, which is never easy, but he should be more dominant with his body

    Tioté: did he even play? I cannot say anything positive about him.

    Guti: should not have started, cause he was not fully fit. He worked hard, but nothing more and nothing less.

    Gouffran: unliky to start his run a bit too early, but his finish was excellent. For the rest I cannot rteally judge on him, cause it was really difficult for him.

    Cissé: where is the Cissé from 2 years ago??? He was blown away by Lescott, but especially by Kompany. Did not have got one good touch at all.

    Dummet: a positive note in a very negative song

    Sammy Ameobi: very difficult for him to come in such an underperforming team. Tried hard to do something, but it never happened

    Anita: play him at RB, he is goping to do a better job than Debuchy

    Pardew: not all was his fault, but I didn’t see any changes from last season. The sooner we get rid of him the better.

    The board: I hope they are awake now, so they see they need to invest in this team. If we don’t do anything before the end of August, we are going to be in deep trouble!!!

  • 143 Rotonda heights // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    geodielad880

    spot on. we need a modern, technically progressive manager who players respect, not someone still trapped in the 80′s.

  • 144 blahdyblah // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:42 PM

    Nail on the headwith this article!
    http://bet.unibet.com/football/2013/08/20/summer-discontent-mike-ashley-running-newcastle-trouble-again/41

  • 145 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    Go talk to PSG and agree a fee for Cabs as long as they take Obertan as well ;)

    …and then go to Lille an d negociate a deal for Thauvin!

    Everyone is Happy!

  • 146 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    *negotiate

  • 147 kinnearandfar // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    Joe Kinnear has just been spotted arriving back into Newcastle Airport with his two new signings – Kay Setabs and Aleeta Offodca

  • 148 TimKrulFan // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    If we sell Cabaye it’s obvious we are a stepping stone for players. we need 2 ST one who will walk in the team and a young quick striker we also need Wingers we have no pace in the team are bench looked so weak it was unreal.

  • 149 Beattie25 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

    JB

    Signing British players won’t make a difference for me. Signing any players won’t make a difference.

    The reason the starting 11 will struggle this season is down to tactics, motivation and lack of direction.

    The reason the squad will struggle is down to investment, depth and quality.

    The reason the club on the whole will struggle is the sum of all these parts.

    If we decided to sign British due to their fight we’d end up with 11 Stevie Taylor’s who channel their disappointment and lack of ability into reckless behaviour.

    We need a manager who can get these players fighting for the club. It’s not a lack of identity it’s a lack of direction from the top down.

  • 150 geordielad880 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    we need leaders on the pitch, we have no shape, or organisation when under pressure, we havent had that since nolan, and barton, born leaders, would love to have a.williams at CB for the toon

  • 151 Belfast // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    We’re not going to get 25 million for him like.

    Probably get 15 million for him, but if he hands in a transfer request we’ll be lucky to get that.

  • 152 mattyNUFC // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    this guys has an unequivocal f****** talent for conjuring excuses!!!\

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8879360/transfer-news-newcastle-boss-alan-pardew-calls-for-window-change

  • 153 JackButler // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    Beattie25

    Agree we should not be signing them simply for the sake of it, but players of quality like Ince, Mcarthy and Sinclair would make a difference to our squad.

    But as you say without the right tactics and preparation nothing will change

  • 154 VanToonMan // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    Assuming that post 102 was not actually JK…lol who posted that??

    Is anyone a tiny bit happy deep downthat Taylor got sent off as that means MBiwa will definitely start at CB with Colo – and I never wish injury to anyone but I’m also a tiny bit positive with Jonas being injured…as it means Anita or Marveaux surely will play.

    What the Ameobi brothers are doing near the team – I really don’t know.

  • 155 geordielad880 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    I think ben arfa might be the next player to rock the boat, his face said it all when he come off the pitch, cant blame him really

  • 156 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    Beatrice…well said Mame ;)

    …been trying to get that message across for awhile (…I don’t think I have succeed though, but well said ;) )

  • 157 VanToonMan // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    Also…would anyone be happy with £10-15 million for Cabaye to go to PSG plus we get one of their players…maybe Gameiro or Menez?…I think I would take that.

  • 158 Rooster // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    Dummet has to play on Saturday no questions or excuses Mr Pardew, should be interesting v Downing, but hes quick is Dummett and reads the game well.

    Thing is our “sackless” manager will prob play Williamson, and Mbiwa out on the left back position again, he does not ever fail to amaze me Pardew, seagull headed git, and MA has got to look at our transfer situation and tell JK whatever it takes get players in, but Pardew does tactics and formations with hopeless dinosaur Carver, our style has not changed , and wont because he will look like he is giving in and his ego wont allow it.

  • 159 Beattie25 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    What is it with the delusion that Barton and Nolan are the answer to our problems.

    We were relegated with them, they were a class apart in the championship and by rights should have taken NUFC out of the league.

    They had a decent first season back in the top flight before being sold.

    They weren’t better than the players we currently have in our starting 11 just because they pumped their fists and waved their arms.

    The difference is that Chris Hughton played a formation, used the tactics and chose the team based on their attributes in certain positions.

    Pardew does not.

    You want to talk about who to bring back, surely Hughton is the one most deserving of it?

  • 160 mattyNUFC // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    tottenham will beat liverpool to willian

    liverpool will come in for HBA

  • 161 bettyswallocks // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    NUFC were aware of the bid for Cabaye on Friday.

    For Pardew to use Cabaye s absence from the team as an excuse for the thrashing was so obviously going to happen .

    Alan Pardew has been winging it for long enough now I think the whole football community has seen through him.

    He is so clearly out of his depth and worried about his ego and position that however many signings we make he will never play a team of skilful flair players.

    Maveaux has provided the most assists in relation to his time on the pitch and seems to be the only one capable of playing Cisse in. Look at the stats Pardew you buffon and give the kid a run in the team.

    Has anyone noticed the reduction of crows feet and wrinkles on Pardews face compared to some of his older photos?

    He is obviously spanding a fortune on Botox to try and stay young looking, hopefully ready to put himself forward for his next job.

  • 162 Ian Toon // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    We were pathetic. I agree that we were all shocking. Cisse and Taylor were at fault for the second goal. Cisse gave it away up top and enabled City to counter. Cisse appeared either unfit or apathetic our both. He was plain awful. Personally I’m glad Taylor won’t be playing as he’s a liability.

    City are undoubtedly class and we can’t compete at their level. Our level is with the West Ham’s and Fulham’s of the PL. Lets hope we can triumph at this perceived level.

  • 163 geordielad880 // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    And ac milan have been sniffing around santon again aswell, and the strangest one for me, tottenham showing an interest in s.marveaux

  • 164 Rooster // Aug 20, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    Trouble is if Pardew ever got the bullet “I don’t think he will under MA” then MA will again bring his own man in, and that could be worse, but I don’t know how?? maybe JK would step up for the managers job, and again uproar commences, maybe the biggest circus in world football is SJP.

  • 165 Slank // Aug 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    If I was JFK (heaven forbid) I would offer Arsenal a package of Cabaye and Debuchy for £25M provided we can buy Micah Richards from Man City.

  • 166 geordielad880 // Aug 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    beattie 25, im not saying we need nolan or barton, im saying we need leaders on the pitch, its frightening how quickly we lose shape under pressure, there is no organisation at all, i will change it to we need a g.speed, and robert lee, that better lol?

  • 167 Thump // Aug 20, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    @mattyNUFC: In all honesty, I agree with him. The window should close before the season starts. I thought that was the whole point of switching from the season-long windows?

  • 168 geordielad880 // Aug 20, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    can anyone remember the last time we had a settled line up for 5-6 games, without changes, because i cant, when we finished 5th we had the same side most of the season

  • 169 ronjohno // Aug 20, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    First of all did anyone really expect a result last night.
    Ok we could have shown more attitude to fight for the cause but that is all.
    Regarding Cabaye I dont think we will ever know the real story behind his non appearance (plus the fact he would have made no difference last night ) and blaming him is just a hollow excuse.
    I have said many times that if you put Pardew in charge of Real or Barcelona he would ruin them.
    For me he and his staff are the reasons why we are abysmal.
    There is a core of very good players at his disposal but the man is just clueless about how to play good football.
    I also said this when we were fifth. Yes he did play a few attacking games (West Brom away) but then he got nosebleeds and reverted to type . Plus the drivel he has always spouted and his excuses just get more and more pathetic.
    I am sure a real “FOOTBALL MANAGER” could shape these players into a good team.

  • 170 Rooster // Aug 20, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Ronjohno, I agree, I think our Manager has lost the plot he picks a team on paper full of internationals who are now beginning to look awful, ie debuchy sissoko tiote, even Colo is looking very shaky again, and Steven Taylor well were do we start, I best not.




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