Shepherd Had Faults – But Wanted Newcastle To Be A Top Side


Some of us Newcastle supporters are getting long in the tooth, and if we are ever to see Newcastle win a trophy again, it will have to happen in the short-term – a lot of us older folks don’t have long-term plans for anything these days. 😀

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Freddy Shepherd – when Newcastle Chairman

That’s one reason we are so disappointed at the way Mike Ashley seems to be running the Tyneside club, with just no ambition being shown at all, and we are even being out-bid by perennially small clubs like Swansea, Southampton, Norwich and Fulham, and that’s really hard to take.

On last nights showing Newcastle seemed to be as bad as we were when we were hammered at home by Sunderland 3-0 and Liverpool 6-0 – and if last night is anything to go by (we hope it’s not) we are in for a very difficult season – yes – another one.

It’s not good at the moment, because Newcastle (make that Ashley) is showing absolutely no ambition at Newcastle, and the fans are upset – but so are the players.

A few of them have come out and said they want to see new players signed, and last night’s experience will not have been a good one for many of our top players – another embarrassing hammering.

Ashley is almost the polar opposite of Freddie Shepherd, the Chairman who ran Newcastle from December 1st of 1997, through the summer of 2007, when Mike Ashley bought the club.

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Mike Ashley – the polar opposite of Freddy Shepherd

Mike seems to be more concerned about balancing the financial books and getting good frugal deals, than he is about creating a top side.

Now it’s a good thing to be financially responsible – we certainly don’t want to go belly up like some clubs have done by over-spending, don’t get us wrong on that, but you can also overdo it.

Freddy was the opposite of frugal with money, and paid put huge fees and huge wages to get decent players to the Tyneside club – and as a man born and bred on Tyneside he had a burning desire to see Newcastle United become a top club.

Freddy had a lot of faults (don’t we all?), but at least he wanted do make Newcastle into a top side.

It would be hard to say that about the current owner Mike Ashley, and we seem to be falling behind even the smaller clubs – never mind the top six.

That’s so very sad – but so very true.

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511 comments so far

  • Slank

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #1

    Repost

    If I was JFK (heaven forbid) I would offer Arsenal a package of Cabaye and Debuchy for £25M provided we can buy Micah Richards from Man City.

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  • JackButler

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    Comment #2

    Tiote risking the wrath of Ashley by being cheeky enough to say we need to spend money

    “Honestly, I think we need some more players in the squad, because we don’t have a big squad.

    “Now we’ve got Steven Taylor out for three games and Jonas Gutierrez is injured.

    “So, it’s going to be tough on us becasue we don’t have a big squad.

    “I hope the chairman is going to spend money on the club.”

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  • Thump

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    Comment #3

    If we sell Cabaye – does he really need replacing? We have Anita and Sissoko (when he’s not being played out of position) who are both technically brilliant… I know Cabs adds a different dimension to our gameplay but are we absolutely sure that’s not something Anita can bring, or at least live up to?

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  • Rainrix

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    Comment #4

    Well quite simply pardew is simply a symptom of the real disease which is the ashley. Even if he sacked pards we would simply get another grade D manager and more penny pinching. Simply put until ashley goes we’re stuck in this perennial hell. 6 Years of constant footballing faux pas. It isn’t going to change till the fatman goes.

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  • Slank

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:06 PM

    Comment #5

    Freddy and his Geordie cronies only ever wanted to line their pockets with the money through the turnstiles and loans from the bank whilst trying to kid everyone that they were just like them, fellow Geordie supporters trying to do their best.

    His exposure in the newspaper sting showed what he actually thought.

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  • Beattie25

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #6

    Geordielad

    I agree with you but more importantly there is a dearth of leadership from the touchline.

    We do need a big personality on the pitch.

    I don’t know what’s happened to Tiote but his ferocity is no longer there and his ability to stamp his authority on a match is dead and buried.

    Every player looks confused, depressed and unconfident.

    There does need to be a vocal leader on the pitch but it needs to be complimented by a leader in the dugout.

    Not necessarily English. Look at Kompany yesterday, that’s what we need.

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  • Spotlight Kid

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #7

    Shepherd is a crook and a traitor (for sacking SBR).

    Between him and Ashley they have effectively lumbered the club in £100m debt that should have been reflected in the purchase price – and so come out of their pockets. This club (Norwich style) should be debt free and operating to constantly upgrade the team and coaching staff to stay up the Prem pace. Instead it operates solely as a cash cow for Ashley to get back his £100m.

    Shepherd, meanwhile, just f***ed off with his ill gotten gains. Scum.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #8

    but not with his own money. Shepherd was an out and out crook and don’t let the geordie thing fool you

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  • Slank

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Comment #9

    JackButler @ 2

    Pardew was saying he wanted more of his players to show character and leadership. Looks like Tiote has responded. I would like Colo to say something public as he is the captain.

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Comment #10

    Serious question to everyone (plenty of people have already answered yes to it) –

    If you had the option of seeing Pardew sacked and replaced by JFK, would you say yes?

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  • richyg01

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    Comment #11

    Shepherd was far worse for NUFC than Ashley is.

    Shepherd put us into a spiraling debt.
    Ashley has reduced the debt.
    Unfortunately, he has also reduced the spending.

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  • richyg01

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #12

    @10

    NO

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  • daztoon

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #13

    Cabaye to be sold Gutierrez injured and Taylor suspended.Thats just after the first game,now the squad will be to small according to Pards.

    He has learnt nothing from last season again we never even got close to closing anyone down and stayed on the back foot for 90 mins.Cisse up top alone.Thank god for Krul otherwise it would have been even more of a embarrassment

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  • richyg01

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #14

    @9

    Yeah, Jonas came out and said sorry to the ‘angry’ fans also.

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #15

    Ed

    Not sure if you ever read the comments, but it would be good to see more articles like this, where you express your opinion. I know you try to stay impartial on things, but we’d all much rather hear what devoted fans think than reading 10 interviews a day with Pardew.

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  • dcdick

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #16

    Freddy for all his faults brought exciting players & exciting football to Newcastle.

    Ashley has brought nothing apart from some financial stability

    Pardew out…………. nothing but excuses after last nights fiasco.

    Big problem is ………………….who will come to Newcastle & rescue us ??????

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  • Slank

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #17

    Beattie @ 6

    I remember reading that Pardew had asked Tiote to not collect so many yellow cards. Unfortunately that may have backfired as he didn’t show his normal tenacious self last night.

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  • JackButler

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #18

    Slank

    I’d be happier if they showed that character and used their voices on the pitch as leadership is in real short supply.

    But it is strange that we never seem to hear from Colo who as the captain

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Comment #19

    Ed
    Don’t make my blood boil it is high enough at the minute without bring that fat toad shepherd in the equation.

    When the club was at the top he and the Hall’s started the downword spiral by issuing shares floating the club and taking millions out.

    And calling all Geordies idiots in the News of the World sting, buying a warehouse to stock Toon merchandise then charging them rent.

    see below what they took out of the toon

    Arghhhhh
    Totals made from Newcastle United 1999 to 2005

    Sir John, Douglas and Cameron Hall: £36,466,153

    Freddy Shepherd and Shepherd Offshore: £ 8,351,298

    Total £44,817,451

    Figures compiled with assistance of Ian Ferguson from http://www.nufc-finances.org.uk

    Totals made from Newcastle United in a 6 year period

    Sir John, Douglas and Cameron Hall: £36,466,153

    Freddy Shepherd and Shepherd Offshore: £ 8,351,298

    Total £44,817,451
    That equals over &7 million per year

    AND

    In summary what Shepherd left was a club that was losing over £30m a year, had debts of £70m, had no assets they could borrow more money against, and had a set of players on long, lucrative contracts. Ashley can get rid of the debt but the £30m annual losses with over paid players will take longer to sort out.

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Comment #20

    Beattie, Jack – see post 10 🙂

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  • AaranD

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Comment #21

    Totally agree Thump.

    Anita is a similar mold to Cabaye, a snappy technical player. We also have Sissoko, Tiote and Gosling all CM.

    Don’t get me wrong i’d love Cabs to stay but if he left for £25million, which I think the club will hold out for, we need to spend that on other areas of the pitch. A few more attacking options, as we are a counter attacking side. Imagine haveing Sinclair, Remy and HBA running at you 3v3, frighting.

    Problem is clubs will know we are in a mess and charge massive prices for players we should of gone and got months ago.

    Also feel players have no clue what our game plan is, that has to change the most!!

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  • geordie157

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Comment #22

    I’d still accept 5 mill for tiote if anyone will have him, then bring in bridcutt.

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  • Rooster

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    Comment #23

    Ronjohno, I agree, I think our Manager has lost the plot he picks a team on paper full of internationals who are now beginning to look awful, ie debuchy sissoko tiote, even Colo is looking very shaky again, and Steven Taylor well were do we start, I best not.

    SHEPHERD, YEA he wanted big signings, not his money he was playing with, that’s the only thing I can say in favour of MA its his bit, hes careful, but it is a bloody nightmare at times dealing with it

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  • JackButler

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    Comment #24

    ToonDownSouth

    No mate, Kinnear is no better than Pardew, if/when he goes it has to be for a better manager to come in to replace him.

    I want us to move forward not sideways or backwards

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  • Belfast-Toon

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    Comment #25

    So lets rewind and imagine that Ashley never purchased the club from freddy, what state would be in now financially? Never mind the short term spending and targets cuz Chelsea and city has made that irrelevant due to their spending power. Topic is pointless.

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  • geordielad880

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Comment #26

    remy will make a huge difference when fit, he will bring a total different aspect to our front line, pace and power, something we lack up top

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  • geordie157

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    Comment #27

    With Jonas and Taylor out, maybe Pardew can try my 4231 formation.

    Krul
    Santon, Mbiwa, Colo, dummett
    Tiote, sissoko
    Ben arfa, vuckic, Marveaux
    Cisse

    Tiote sits in front of the back four, sissoko starts deep but is our box to box midfielder. Narrow trio with arfa and Marv swapping sides, vuckic providing a link between midfield and Cisse.

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  • Widowmaker

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    Comment #28

    We are fans, or are we shareholders? Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want my club bankrupted, never. It’s just funny in a sad way that many seem to be more interested in our club balancing it’s book.

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  • Robby Bobson

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #29

    Shepherd and co took millions out a year in dividends whilst the club was making huge financial lossess and in millions of debt…

    Its not all about the money, but he certainly lined his own pockets.

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  • Yohan Kebab

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #30

    how long do tickets usually take to arrive? ordered charity game tickets on august 3rd and still not here

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  • BandB

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #31

    Thump

    I’m sure the thought has occurred more than you.
    We could claim the proceeds from a Cabaye sale were spent in January and have now merely been recouped.
    And as Matty says, a late Liverpool bid for Ben Arfa is not unlikely.
    I wish the window had closed after we’d signed Remy.
    You should always quit while you’re behind, I reckon.

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  • Ginger

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #32

    Something that still needs improved on is a link from midfield to attack. Tiote and Anita both do well linking the midfield to the defense but there’s still an apparant fault in our lineup, Cisse is still being isolated.

    Both Ben-Arfa and Gouffran enjoy running at players, but still fail to link up with Cisse properly.

    We need either Vuckic or Marveux to start next match if we’re going to stick with the 4-2-3-1 formation. They will fill in that link we need in CAM. Ben-arfa, Gouffran and Sissoko or simply not good enough to be CAM.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #33

    TDS…I really don’t want to see JK as manager. Absolutely not. Just means daily to weekly publicised ramblings from the man and will the playing style get any better? I think not.

    Thump…A very good point about whether the Cabaye money, if he is sold, should be spent on a Cabaye replacement or not. A fair few already feel Anita should be given a chance, so surely a Cabs replacement would hinder that?

    A striker, a winger and something sorting out in defense would still be my priority before another CM.

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  • G.unit

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #34

    I for one am not justifying what Shepherd and the rest of his cronies took out of the club but one thing I know for sure is I loved being a Toon supporter back in them days.

    My love for the club will never go away but it’s getting harder and harder, as the weeks go by. Even the local rags are starting to have their digs now. Finally, they are starting to say what most fans have been saying for a while now.

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  • Yohan Kebab

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #35

    geordie 157, our best team at present , IMO

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  • Rooster

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #36

    Geordie, that’s the trouble with AP he wont drop Debuchy and he will bring Santon back in if fit, no balls at all. Dummet deserves a chance without doubt.

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  • Thump

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #37

    @richyg01 (11): He hasn’t reduced the debt, he’s just shifted it around so the bank can’t charge interest. He may have prevented a fair bit of debt, but he certainly hasn’t reduced it.

    @AaranD: Tactically, I saw some good football yesterday. The passing movement was quite easy on the eye ( or it would have been had we not have caved to City’s pressure). They dictated the tempo and forced errors from us and we were playing at a speed where we simply can’t play. The other issue is that we had no actual mode of attack. There was no playmaker. It was literally “get the ball to one of the forward line and hope the burst through”. That terrifies me. We’ll only go forward when we’re dominating the game and not a second before.

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  • geordie157

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #38

    Probably old news but Inman has agreed terms with Crewe after a fee was agreed. We’ve got a sell on clause in the deal. Good luck to him,.think at worst he’ll become a solid championship player in the future.

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  • Slank

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #39

    Widowmaker @ 28

    I don’t think its strictly about balancing the club’s books.

    Its more about making it clear that those Geordies the Shepherd and Hall families fleeced the club. Whereas the southerner Ashley has not.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Aug 20, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    Comment #40

    In the Shephard days, fans were less interested / informed about the financial runnings of the club…I certainly was anyway. This isn’t just with Newcastle though, the whole financial world has changed somewhat since then and tbh, it needed to. I am all for financial fair play and clubs running within their means, however, the new rules aren’t really working yet, are they?

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