This Is Why Newcastle Could Get Tough On Yohan Cabaye


Newcastle received a £12M bid for Newcastle playmaker Yohan Cabaye on Sunday from Arsenal, and that was immediately rejected, but the Gunners have probably made contact with the player’s agent to let them know what they are willing to pay him in wages – but whatever has really happened Alan Pardew admitted after the game that Cabaye’s head had been turned.

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Yohan Cabaye – probably refused to play last night

And the Newcastle manager has said that it’s always hard to keep players when they want to leave, but hey we shouldn’t sell Cabaye unless we receive £25M for him, and if that offer doesn’t come along then he will stay on Tyneside.

Mike Ashley should take a leaf out of Tottenham supremo Daniel Levy’s book, by insisting on a ridiculous deal before they will sell.

Levy did that with Luka Modric last summer, and finally got £33M out of Real Madrid for him, and he’s now playing hard ball with Gareth Bale this summer, with a ridiculous fee of £105M being mentioned in the press..

But the fee is only ridiculous for the buying club – it’s great for the selling club – as we found out when we sold Andy Carroll..

And lets’ face it these footballers live in an unreal world, and when they sign contracts they think they can leave if it’s a good offer for them – but what happens if it’s not good for their football club?

What happened yesterday was that either Alan Pardew decided Yohan was not in the right frame of mind to play – or Yohan simply refused to play to try to force through a deal, and it could well have been the latter.

If necessary Newcastle should keep Cabaye out of the squad through the end of the transfer window (13 days to go), and not do a deal unless they get what they want for Yohan Cabaye.

And if Yohan sulks then so be because it he can sit out the season until January rolls around – but remember it’s a World Cup year coming up, and he will want to be playing regularly to get into the French side for the World Cup games and also for the tournament next summer.

So it seems that Newcastle have got all the answers if they simply play hard ball for the next 13 days.

If Cabaye doesn’t move hell soon come around and realize he actually has a legal contract to play for Newcastle – that’s why these players sing contracts in the first place.

Newcastle have every right to keep him at Newcastle this summer – unless we get £25M for him – and if he doesn’t like that – then so be it.

We usually think that if a player wants to leave we should just sell him, but in this case the advantages seem to be with Newcastle, if only because of the World Cup next summer, and Yohan will need to be playing somewhere.

And if he doesn’t get his move to either Arsenal (unlikely) or PSG ( a lot more likely) then he needs to stay at Newcastle – whether he likes that or not.

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  • Our Toon

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #1

    This was predicted by a lot of us on here to be fair, last night didn’t come as a surprise to me because the team has no heart to it. Players not working hard enough, Taylor epitomised this when he firstly gave Aguero so much space for the 2nd goal, then he was stupidly dismissed, quite frankly I would be happy for him to be kept well away from the 1st team until he realises his mistake!!!

    We’ve had some fans on here saying sell Cabaye for this much and I’d take X amount for Ben Arfa etc, when will these people realise that these players are the only real creative sparks we have in the team. Cisse has come in for some criticism from people on here as well but seriously guys/girls we don’t play to his strengths and watching the game yesterday I actually felt sorry for him, Ben Arfa was good early on but was rightly taken off in the 2nd half as the match was lost. We were shocking throughout but Dummett looked good though. Pardew has no clue hence playing 3 different formations before the red card but more importantly the players don’t look like they have any belief in his management skills (rightly so).

    To the optimists on this blog, what a shock last night must have been, it’s one thing being positive and completely another to have blind faith which unfortunately some of us Geordies have. I’ve voted with my feet as this is the first competitive league game I have not paid to watch (at a stadium) in 15 years. It was a strange feeling but I love my club and realise that the only way we can take it back (get Ashley to sell) is to not pay for anything toon related….about time others got in line, rather than complain on a blog why not show some real definitive discontent for this regime and hit them in the pocket!! ONLY WAY HE WILL SELL

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  • Rowan Milsted

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #2

    I didn’t expect us to win last night but the performance was shocking and that’s what hurts.

    That game highlights three things for me – how good Man City are, how bad we can be and the fact that the super-rich clubs are becoming just too damn superior for 15 of the 20 PL clubs to compete with. It’s detrimental to football.

    However, I expected better than that. The tactics and formation were both wrong. Cisse can’t hold up the ball and we all know that; he was completetly ostrisised all game. Taylor let us down badly. Debuchy needs a bollocking and a lesson is positioning. Since we have no decent wingers (bar HBA) we should play to our FBs strengths and perhaps play a 5 man defence, particularly away to City, and play our midfielders narrow. That suits them. Sissoko shouldn’t be played wide. Krul was immense; good to have him back.

    So disappointing to be so utterly out-played and to make the same old managerial mistakes again but it was the first game and it was City. Roll on Saturday when we can put things right.

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  • lewisnufc

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #3

    no basis to the story. end of.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #4

    Always think its too easy for a club to Get on it’s high horse and say to a player you must stay.

    When in reality if a club doesn’t want a player they ship them out pretty quickly.

    If a club doesn’t want a player he has to leave or ends up in the reserves. Where as a player doesn’t have much he can do except refuse to play which ultimately harms his image and costs him his pay.

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  • Rowan Milsted

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #5

    On Cabs – if he refused to play he should be fined. As for leaving him to rot – hmm. He’s one of our best players and he’s probably one of our most highly paid players too. By leaving him out the squad we’ll be reducing his transfer fee and missing out on having him play.

    Imo Pardew has show before that he can be a good man-manager and appeal to players on a personal level so let’s hope he can sort out the problem whatever it is.

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  • Slank

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #6

    Repost

    oonaids

    Like houses, we are worth whatever someone is prepared to pay.

    £300 million is not a lot to many of the families that rule any of the states in the Middle East. Also, there are meg rich people elsewhere who could easily afford that amount. However, I doubt there is anyone in the North East with that disposable cash.

    The question to ask is why would someone want to buy the club. It wouldn’t be to make money. It would probably be for vanity or to promote their business interests (just like Sports Direct) which has provided them with the money in the first place. Also, don’t assume that a new owner will pump money into the club as if its a bottomless pit. Lerner put a halt to all that at Villa.

    Not much comfort I know but this is what life is like in the Premiership. We might be lucky next time but don’t put all your money on it.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #7

    Agree with ed though. Set a high price and if its not matched tell them where to go and tell cabaye he will be playing for us…end of.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #8

    I am all for leaving Cabs out of the team if the truth is he didn’t want to play or if is head had been turned.

    …he has just as much to loose as NUFC with the World Cup coming up!

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  • The overrated Frenchman

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #9

    I’d take the £12m. Had more mediocre games than good ones in the last 12 months. Goes missing when the going gets tough. Overrated.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #10

    Slank

    Put a stop to big spending at villa but worked wonders with the academy and young lads and has still brought in 5 more players this summer to help.

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  • hoppernufc

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #11

    Last night was an absolute nightmare and its becoming more and more clear we need some vocal leaders on the pitch we need players who will get stuck in and drag the team when needed, we have a team full of good individuals but we dont work as a team at all. we need to select the best players based on form and who will do the best against the opposition however pardew selects the same players hes a idiot, how long does this go on before something changes? im over the moon with gutti and taylor out for a couple of weeks it means pardew is forced to make some changes for once!

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  • Beattie25

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #12

    Kevy

    What a load of shit.

    Arsenal were beaten 8-2 but that wasn’t a hallmark of their side. They didn’t continue to get pummelled time after time.

    They lost that heavily and came back stronger as you say but we haven’t after any of the times we’ve been beaten.

    If you get battered once or twice it’s ok to draw a line through it but under Pardew we have conceded 3 or more goals 22 times and have continuously found our displays wanting.

    If it makes it easier for you to forget by moving on fine, but that’s only helps you it doesn’t help the team.

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  • wolfshead@toon

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #13

    slank

    lerner also had advisors that pointed out a young manager with potential

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  • Tommyy

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #14

    You can accept a battering if we turn up and play ok and it’s a case of everything going the way of the opposing side. But to get battered 6 or 7 times in 8 months is despicable. We are hurtling downward at an alarming rate, get rid of Pardew and the back team now I say and buy a Dutchman or Frenchman with the right ideals no matter what because we sure as hell couldn’t get worse than Pardew and his team of clowns.

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  • Slank

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #15

    People should read the Arsenal blogs. Cabaye isn’t rated highly. Most gooners seem to think that Wenger is probably overreacting to the home defeat combined with mass criticism of his failure to land any of his targets.

    His negotiating tactic is to offer the lowest possible bid and then when rejected he will up it slightly. I think Ashley’s tactic is to stick with the highest selling price no matter what the buying may come up with.

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  • Tommyy

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #16

    This is the entire problem with trying to put value as the core team builder. It just doesn’t work in sport. You need to get the right people at the right time and for the right reasons. Footballing ones. I’m sick of being run like a shoddy business. We’re a football club for God’s sake.

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  • cyprus

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #17

    kevymartins,
    Respect for your positiveness but I can’t follow mate. You are right about the three you identified (was it Krul, Dummett, HBA?) but so much was so wrong. Like I said, these internationals looking so pedestrian… We are not exactly a championship team, we should be able to compete at least a little. e.g. hull gave Chelsea a good game in the second half..

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  • Slank

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #18

    wolfshead @ 13

    Who was that?

    Surely not Houllier after O’Neill. Or was it McLeish who got sacked. Could it be Lambert?

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  • jimBOB

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #19

    apparently Arsenal told NUFC they would pay 25 mill if Cabaye didn’t play because they want the deal done by Wednesday, don’t know how true that is but heard it from at least 5 different people today. ( more than likely a few people that have read something like the Mail )

    if he refused to play, which I think unlikely, considering his interview 2 weeks ago stating he loved the toon.

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  • richyg01

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #20

    People saying Sack Pardew really dont see the bigger picture.

    Which decent manager would want to come and manage this club?

    Which manager is daft enough to play under our owners.

    Any other manager coming in would not be backed, exactly the same as Hardpoo isn’t being backed.

    The problems start at the top.

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  • kevymartins

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #21

    We don’t need to sell drives the price up. Arsen Wenger is doesn’t have a clue on how to spend money.Come out and tell them 30 million take it or leave it because i’m pritty sure a team like PSG would pay more than 30 for him.

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  • richyg01

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #22

    @19

    I thought he was all set to play and had traveled down to Manchester, but then when the story broke and the media frenzy ensued, Hardpoo sent him home.

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  • Raffo

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #23

    Pardew out. De Boer in now for me. Bergkamp to assist. Would be unproven but could be like Laudrupp

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  • south coast toon

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #24

    i dont care whos put an offer in for you your names on the teamsheet now get out there and get on with it or you will be fined plus not get paid thats all pards has to say if thats the case, if the moneys reinvested now id sell and bring in 2 or 3 creative types cabye didnt play well last season dosent score enough and goes missing, it could just be pards playing him badly….

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  • G

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #25

    The worst thing for last night wasn’t the ommision of Cabaye, it was the fact that I have spent the last few years pointing out that Steven Taylor has cut out most of the silly mistakes now, then he goes and handles the ball twice, should have conceded a penalty once, then gets himself sent off. Turns out Rotunda Heights has been correct all this time.

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  • banjax

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #26

    We need as much money as possible for Cabaye that is Commonsense. But much more than that we need a new manager and signings, everything else is bollocks.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #27

    Again not sure why are people blaming Arsenal for the Cabaye bid. NUFC made it public, not Arsenal. I think it’s obvious Ash wants money in and is happy for the deal to happen.

    Also it’s hilarious how the pro Pardew people come up with the same lame and endless excuses after each latest defeat as if it is one game taken in isolation. We have been dire for well over a season now.

    The fact Marveaux can’t get a game ahead of Sameobi really tells you all you need to know about Pardew.

    We got SIX players in Jan and now have Remy to replace Ba. You have to balance that against having Pardew and JFK (and Wonga!) but I’m pretty sure there are a lot of ” modern, progressive ”footballing ”managers out there who could do something with :-

    Krul

    Debuchy? Colo M’Biwa Dummet / Haidara / Santon

    Sissoko Anita

    Marveaux

    Ben Cisse Remy

    I know Marveaux is not a winger per se but surely just once we could have tried a 433 with Benny and Marv either side of Cisse in a front 3

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  • Beattie25

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #28

    Richy

    I agree with your sentiments but what you and others fail to realise is managers all over Europe manage under similar circumstances and can often be found brining the best out of the teams they are in charge off.

    Sacking Pardew and brining in a younger, hungrier and more dignififed replacement from a lower Leauge or Europe (unlikely as it is) wouldn’t solve all our problems but it would go a long way in the quest to correct them.

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  • G

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #29

    Chap at work reckons that AP is already on borrowed time, and Poyet has been lined up as a replacement already. Just waiting for the transfer window to close so they can blame AP for that too? I’m sure this rumour was circulating back end of last season too?

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  • kevymartins

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #30

    Arsenal are putting in bids on there value of Cabaye disrespecting us and forgetting how important he is to us.

    How the fcuk would they like it if City put a bid in for Cazorla wednesday at 4pm. They still don’t shut up about Nasri and Van Persie, the cheek of some clubs.

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  • Slank

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #31

    Transfer Sage @ 10

    Yes that is true. I was only trying to point out that new owners don’t always maintain their spending. I’m sure the new owners of Liverpool will succumb when Liverpool don’t reach the heights that their fans demand and the funds the manager wants to achieve a place at the top table.

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  • bills-son

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #32

    I’ve just had one of my staff ring up this morning. …

    They’ve been offered a job with more pay and they say “their head is not right” and they need to take the day off work.

    Now if that actually happened I’d tell em to take the week off – without pay – and come back Monday.

    And that’s exactly what Cabaye should be told.

    Who the fk do these players think they are? They get paid £50K a week if they have a sh1t game or out injured and when another club makes a bid their head isn’t right to play.

    Joke, absolute fkn joke.

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  • richyg01

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #33

    I think Pardew should send Tiote up to discuss transfers with JFK and Ashley, they might be a bit more scared of him.

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  • bebbop

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #34

    last night was an insipid performance from the boys. you can see the frustration in all the players and it stems from the way this football club is being run. mbiwa’s push on dzeko, debauchy slamming the ball down, saylor’s close line and the general body language of all the players.
    what are they playing for? each other? I doubt it when there is no loyalty in this game to anything. club or team mate. cabaye (vice captain) didn’t play, whether his choice or not, had any REAL vice captain been put in that position they would have refused to be left out. This would have sent a signal to the rest of the team ‘we are doing this together’.
    But why would he want to. why would anyone want to play for a club that just choose’s to exist with no real apparent will to win. we play football to win and I’m surprised more people associated with this club haven’t walked.
    It’s a sorry state our club is in but I will continue to support the boys that go out there and give it a red hot crack like Krul. Thank god for Krul.

    It’s a shame when management have destroyed the moral of the club through their lack of amibiton.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #35

    Incidentally does anyone know what’s happened to haidara.
    I thought he looked really promising.

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  • anirudh175

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #36

    Did any one notice..Tiote didnt get a yellow/red card last night…another positve from a shite load of negatives from last night!!!

    We couldve atleast given them a good fight..no shame in losing after giving the opponents a run for their money!!! Very worried about this season..We lack creativity upfront and our defence is a bloody joke!!!

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  • richyg01

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #37

    @34

    Isn’t he injured?

    I also see Tav is being sent back from loan because he is crocked.

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  • BuckLuck

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #38

    richyg01

    Which decent manager would want to come and manage this club? Many. Most managers are better than Pardew.
    Which manager is daft enough to play under our owners? Probably quite a few. We have players managers would love to manage.

    I agree that the problem starts at the top, and that’s an even bigger argument to get a better manager. We are desperate for a manager to neutralize Ashleys bad ownership.

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  • wynsleap

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #39

    I find it ironic that we moan on about other clubs’ transfer values, which we refuse to pay, yet take the moral high ground in asking excess fees for our own players.
    £30m for Cabaye? – you have to be joking. In today’s market £10m would be about right as the guy has been totally anonymous for most of his time in the Toon midfield since he came here. That is apart from his occasional bouts of childish petulance.
    Okay – get your £20-30mill. transfer fee in (if you’re really lucky) but don’t expect to see any of it in incoming transfers. Ashley will bank it nicely where the sun don’t shine along with the season ticket, sponsorship, merchandising and huge TV revenue but still expect, as ever, the debt to him remain the same as previous. Nice work if you can get it.

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  • Beattie25

    Aug 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #40

    Anyone seen Tiotes interview calling on Ashley to spend money?

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