Message To Ashley, Kinnear – Get The Job Done At Newcastle


Whether you rate Alan Pardew as a manager or not, you have to sympathise with the Newcastle manager at least a little but, in that Newcastle sold Demba Ba in early January, and its now almost nine months later and we haven’t replaced him.

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Demba Ba – has not been replaced after nine months – why?

And it seems the current Newcastle hierarchy are not learning from their past mistakes, because when Andy Carroll was sold at the end of January of 2011 for a massive £35M to Liverpool, it was a year before we replaced him with £9M signing Papiss Cisse from SC Freiburg.

Yes, it’s true that we brought in Demba Ba in the summer of 2011, but he essentially cost nothing as a free transfer (£2M paid to his agents), and so he wasn’t really thought to be a replacement for big Andy at that time.

And Alan Pardew’s frustrations at not having a better strike force than we had after Demba Ba left in January seem to be mounting – and for good reason.

Alan Pardew has never been responsible for bringing in new signings, although he obviously gives his input on players, and until mid-June that was one of Derek LLambias’ responsibilities in his capacity as the Managing Director at the club.

Then out of the blue came Joe Kinnear’s appointment as Director of Football in mid-June, Derek immediately resigned and Joe has labored long and hard all summer, but all he has to show for his efforts is the loan signing of Loic Remy for next season – and to be fair that was a good deal.

But Newcastle have looked like the Keystone Kops this summer in the transfer market, as we have failed to get targets like Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, Wilfred Bony, Darren Bent and others through the door – for one reason or another.

And then we were simply hammered on Monday night by Manchester City, who looked a million miles ahead of us, and our attacking threat was simply non-existent, as it was after we had lost Demba Ba last season.

And Alan Pardew has expressed his frustrations when he told the local Evening Chronicle that we need another striker in – and that was for the umpteenth time this summer:

“We are still short. We are short of Demba Ba,” “That’s what it looks like and until Remy is fit or we get another striker in, it will be a problem for us.”

It’s right that the club should judge Alan Pardew on the results he gets – but you also have to give him the players he needs, so he can make Newcastle successful again.

We now have just 12 days (and counting) to get players through the door, and we should have some money to spend when Yohan Cabaye is sold – probably to PSG and probably for at least £20M.

Newcastle first half of the season is very much dependent on getting players through the door in the next two weeks.

At some point Newcastle need to show they can get deals done in the transfer market and at some point they need to start showing the ambition that teams like Swansea. Southampton, West Ham and Fulham have shown this summer.

For some reason that kind of ambition seems to be lacking at a club like Newcastle – which is lot bigger and with much richer history than any of those clubs just mentioned. The current Newcastle hierarchy seem more worried about have good financial results – as if that’s what wins titles – not.

Urgent message to Joe Kinnear and Mike Ashley – please get the job done at Newcastle.

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420 comments so far

  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    Comment #1

    Being dressed in high heels and a mini skirt in Kabul high street is tooo good for Ashley.

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  • NUFCarter

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #2

    So, i think its official, Haris Vuckic has joined Bradford city on loan.

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  • Newcastle Brown Alien

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #3

    “Demba Ba – has not been replaced after nine months – why?
    He has to be fair, our target to replace him in January was Remy, we now have him, plus many more players. We need a manager who can manage a team, play a decent formation and stop making excuses

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  • theartfuldodger

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #4

    Business isnt about jst finance. Theres human resources(motivating players at the right time eg new season) and supply chain and production and operations and media communications.

    Why would players join a club with no vision or mission. If we finish low this year we wont attract good players at cheap prices.

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  • spitfire_

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #5

    Yeah because MA and JFK always listen the fans.

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  • JackButler

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #6

    @1 Thanks Jail, you’ve got me spitting coffee over my laptop again

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  • Mint

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #7

    Tiotes english is good

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  • JAMSHA

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    Comment #8

    JUST LEAVE THE CLUB U FAT BSTRAD ….. EVERY YEAR THIS FAT COWARD WILL PLAY WITH US

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  • Tommyy

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Comment #9

    That’s exactly it, we’ve no clear vision or direction. We’re merely existing, and not very well.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Comment #10

    Rowan

    Yes I will look to do something. All ideas and opinions welcome. Need support, if nobody wants to do it then ill respect what most think.

    Secret sausage

    It’s not just signings. It’s plastering his tacky adverts everywhere when paying nothing for them, it’s renaming the stadium then replacing our respectable sponsor with wonga for what appears to be a lower amount going off all quoted stories in papers despite what llambias says, it’s hiring poor choices in staff, making us suffer relegation, allowing clubs to overtake us and leave us out of sight, there’s more too.

    Treating respected club figures/legends with contempt…shearer and keegan. Constantly appointing poor choices to run serious parts of the club…wise, kinnear, llambias and showing the door to any player/manager that dares to speak out.

    Look at spurs..good managers like redknapp and now AVB, quickly rectified poor appointments of jol and Ramos when things went wrong. Lost players but always used the money received to improve the team at the time, not eak it out over 2/3 years.

    It’s not just big signings I ask for, it’s the club to be ran with the goal of winning and challenging for things, not just as a massive advert for his company.

    And as for spending his kids inheritance…that money would be no where near if he hasn’t used Newcastle to promote his company world wide ad gain free advertising to hundreds of millions of TV viewers.

    Not criticising you at all for going to games by the way, each to their own. I fully get you do it as you love the game and love the team, regardless of off field problems. At the end of the day we support the badge more than any owner, manager and player. All come and go but the badge remains.

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  • jimBOB

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    Comment #11

    Bring Ba back, I couldn’t care that he left, he knows the club and how we play, nobody better to get goals for us really, proven striker in the prem.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    Comment #12

    I’ve listened to arguments for and against the boycotting, and frankly, I’m not listening,Mike Ashley is not getting anymore of my money.

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  • catchy in norway

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:55 PM

    Comment #13

    i think there trying to force pardew to quit, but he is to greedy to leave

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    Comment #14

    I’d like Ba back too, at the end of the day he left for the right reasons, to play top level. Unfortunately for him mourinho doesn’t seem to want him, 3rd choice and they are looking for another striker as well.

    I’d take Ba and Sinclair, ince too if possible and that would be a very good window without silly money being spent.

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  • JAMSHA

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    Comment #15

    BOYCOT IS THE BEST OPTION….ENOUGH IS ENOUGH . ….

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    Comment #16

    Catchy

    Can’t blame pardew for not walking. Most people will want try and put things right, all people who play professional sport thrive on winnin and pardew is the same, he won’t turn his back on something, especially seeing as he won’t get a club as big as Newcastle again.

    Whether he is good enough is a different matter but can’t blame the man for wanting to do well.

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  • Ginger

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    Comment #17

    Question for the boycotting of St James’s park.

    Aren’t the majority of season tickets paid for in full at the start of the season? If so, it wouldn’t really make much of a difference to Mike Ashley as he’d already have the money. Sure he wouldn’t receive the money of alcohol/food but if it was a thing that went on for a while surely he just wouldn’t bother hiring staff to cook/serve.

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  • BeeGuy

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    Comment #18

    MA & Co. seem run the same bad movie every night and hope the thing will come out better than it did before.

    If the team is going to be crap, then bring back Barton, Ranger and other odd balls that kept it interesting.

    What I tink is that JFK will go into high gear once the window closes & he can make some deals for the best of the free agents out there.

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  • josh

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    Comment #19

    Would you quit your source of income because somebody wanted you to catchy? Behave.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    Comment #20

    Demba Ba might possibly want to come back but there is no wasy Mashley would pay seven million for a player he can get for free when his contact runs out in three years.

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  • fatman

    Aug 21, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    Comment #21

    an overview on fraud from those who still think the halls hid debt from Ashley.

    Definition of fraud

    In England, Wales and Northern Ireland, the fraud laws were overhauled by the Fraud Act 2006 which came into force in 2007. It introduced a statutory definition of fraud, separating it into three classes. These are:

    Fraud by false representation – where a person makes “any representation as to fact or law…express or implied” which they know to be untrue or misleading.
    Fraud by failing to disclose information – where someone fails to disclose any information to a third party when they are under a legal duty to do so.
    Fraud by abuse of position – where a person who should have been safeguarding the financial interests of another, abuses that position.

    For each offence to be proven, the fraudster must have been acting dishonestly with the intent of making a gain for themselves or anyone else, or inflicting a loss (or a risk of loss) on another.

    The Act also made it an offence to be in possession of articles for use in fraud and to make or supply articles for use in fraud. It also created the offence of obtaining services dishonestly.
    Corporate bodies

    The Act provides that if a corporate body is guilty of an offence under the Act and this was carried out with the “consent or connivance” a director, manager, secretary or officer of the body, then they may face prosecution too. A new offence of participating in fraudulent business carried on by a sole trader was also introduced and the maximum penalty for participating in fraudulent business carried on by a company was increased from seven years prison to 10 years.
    Penalties for fraud

    A person found guilty of fraud faces a fine or up to 12 months jail on summary conviction (six months in Northern Ireland), or a fine or imprisonment for up to 10 years on conviction on indictment.

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  • Laurent Robert 32

    Aug 21, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    Comment #22

    We are short of a quality manager who can successfully manage, organise and fill our players with bucket loads of positive confidence.

    To make international players look lost and hopeless within a team requires a special, incapable manager. That man is Alan Pardew.

    Nevertheless, more players are needed as well. The buck goes further back to Ashley, therefore.

    We haven’t even replaced the players we’ve let go, never mind Cabaye who will be going. We need X amount of players just to be back to the same small squad Pardew moaned about all last year.

    Messi, Iniesta and Xavi could play for us, but if Pardew is instructing dreadful football, people may say “Messi has lost it”, “Xavi’s legs have gone” etc etc… when in effect they are still the same top player, it is just the shambles of a team structure which management oversee is stumbling on around them.

    New players, “three in before Sat” malark will do little really, because the ship has no rudder.

    All the new players who came in in January… makes no difference because they will soon blend in with the abysmal coaching and set up, and they too will look poor.

    I maintain, those players which we have, on the whole, are good players who can play good technical football. It is the system which is making them under-perform and it is diabolical that nothing has changed.

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  • bills-son

    Aug 21, 2013 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #23

    Jail @ 20,

    Corka 🙂

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  • Rowan Milsted

    Aug 21, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    Comment #24

    Transfer Sage

    Perhaps a sensible way to start would be to use the next meeting (didn’t JFA attend the last one – is that right?) between fans and representatives of the club to propose two or three clear, well-conceived objections to the current running of the club along with ways forward. Not just spouting ‘Ashley out! Pardew’s an arse! (Though ‘Pards the arse’ has a certain ring to it) & NUFC 4EVA!!!’ but reasonable and realistic aims for the cub. If you started a fans’ group you could do a poll and take the top 2 or 3 ideas/objections/improvements to the meeting. What d’ya think?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 21, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    Comment #25

    Jamsha

    Boycott might not be though. Not sure how much ticket revenue is.

    Say average price for the stadium maybe £25 a ticket when you consider tickets for adults anywhere between 27 and 43 depending on category of game. Say 25 though as season tickets are cheaper and get kids tickets too.

    So £25 x 52,000 = 1.3mil then x 19 = 24.7mil when looking at all 19 home league games.

    Loosing it all will never happen, not even 25% loss will be achieved boycotting and then TV and sponsorship/advertising means it won’t be a massive loss to him.

    We might need something more creative. Something to get media onside.

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  • stunna

    Aug 21, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    Comment #26

    Best, McLoven & Power Ranger haven’t been replaced either.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 21, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    Comment #27

    If we really are going to bring players in if Cabaye is sold why couldn’t they have been bought weeks ago and if the Cabaye deal fell through ythe money could be simply deducted from the TV money,the whole thing just looks like a childish spiteful stance from our fat greedy owner.

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  • toonfogg

    Aug 21, 2013 at 6:07 PM

    Comment #28

    Catchy @13
    probably right they want Pardew to quit coz MA won’t pay him off but we’ll end up with JFK as manager. Ok he may put a bit more fire in their bellies but can he get the best out of the players. Not so sure.

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  • Mint

    Aug 21, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    Comment #29

    Seriously though, why cant Demba come back??? 5th top with him, 5th bottom without. (unless theres a huge buyout fee clause)

    So now we get an unknown quantity at best.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 21, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    Comment #30

    Rowan

    Good idea. Something needs to change though as more and more fans seem alienated from the running of the club.

    I remember 2 years ago, before we finished 5th I’d changed my mind on Ashley, thought he had learned from past mistakes and was doing good but it changed the start of last year when he left pardew short.

    I remember the phone on pardew did when he said he wanted cabayes mate in, a striker and a commanding CB…non arrived that summer and pardew was left to defend the transfer policy even though he clearly didn’t agree with it.

    I’d love pardew to just come out and say we have a good squad but to really kick on I’d like us to have done more business. Nothin too negative, nothing offensive just let us know he agrees with us. The players have even spoke out about being short so they obviously think it too.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 21, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    Comment #31

    Rowan,
    I did attend the meeting and got what I thought was a very good question answered in who will be speaking to the fans, I was told Lee Charnley would be appearing via media sources very soon, that was three weeks ago, the fans meeting needs an articulate orator to speak for the Ashley out campaign.

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  • scottoon

    Aug 21, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    Comment #32

    I understand the debate about boycotting, but everyone needs to remember that Newcastle is a universal brand. I envy each and every one of you who has the opportunity, week in and week out, to attend the hallowed grounds and watch the team we all love. I live in Canada, and I have never had that chance. I am planning a trip in October….first time ever to Newcastle and I will be damned if I am going to boycott. But it seems like there ought to be a few extra tickets floating about. Anyone offering? Liverpoo on the 19th of October?

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  • woolerbill

    Aug 21, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    Comment #33

    Transfers
    There is no point getting players in’ they will not help in the long run. We have had some Google players in, but a couple of months of playing to pards tactics they become plank. Remember last January we all said great to frog, but within a month or so, we were back to in the sh-t. Pardew must go and soon.

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  • Thump

    Aug 21, 2013 at 6:11 PM

    Comment #34

    @Transfer Sage: That’s what we aimed to do with MAOC (and have a bit of a laugh while we did it). Attract attention, give people a giggle, have it memorable and just have fun with it. The funeral procession came to fruition in the Percy the Tuesday before the match, it was just a daft, spontaneous thing that came about and we ran with it. It certainly got attention for better or worse.

    @stunna: I’ve tried to replace Ranger myself but I just don’t have the knack at getting into bother like he does.

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  • scottoon

    Aug 21, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    Comment #35

    Have to think that the longer Pardew is in charge, the greater the likelihood he will be sacked. Any results we get over the next few weeks will be down to luck and not tactics. The lads just aren’t playing for the man, and so with no results, Pardew must go.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 21, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    Comment #36

    Anyway on pardew now.

    There were signs o improved play before the red card, passing was more crisp, movement was better, more players were getting forward…we never really threatened but looked like we were trying to change.

    I’d have honestly said city will tear even the best defences apart playing like that, they looked very good, so can’t blame us for succumbing to that. We did look a bit weak in the final 3rd but then again they are very good in defence as well.

    The two games coming up will show us if we have advanced or not and if things are really improving or not.

    Really the next 6 matches will define our season and in my opinion show us where we will stand over the 38 games.

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  • fatman

    Aug 21, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    Comment #37

    scottoon

    wow really?

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  • lesh

    Aug 21, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    Comment #38

    Ed compares the running of Newcastle United with the Keystone Cops.

    That’s not fair on the Keystone Cops – they were created and screened to provide amusement and entertainment and their antics were based on incompetence.

    However, one would hardly expect a multi-million pound business that is Newcastle United to be managed in such a way as to almost imitate the ineptness of the Keyston Cops.

    Kinnear’s appointment was the icing on the cake – either a gross error of judgement on Mike Ashley’s part or a deliberate attempt to put Newcastle United up as a laughing stock, again.

    and

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  • JaxtheMag

    Aug 21, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    Comment #39

    we were crap in pre season and crap on Monday,pardew thought we were looking good till taylor was sent off. ive never heard a manager talk so much rubbish day after day. he is totally out of his depth.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 21, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    Comment #40

    Woolerbill

    Agree and disagree

    I doubt we will become a great fluid side but at the same time out average points improved after the jan signings compared to before…might be other factors but better players are always welcome even if the manager isn’t great.

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